BA-609 Flight Demonstration

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  • @rocktruggy03
    @rocktruggy03 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was the prof of concept test bed. It was what sold the fiesability of an operational tilt rotor.

  • @primitivecrazy
    @primitivecrazy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video. My step dad worked on the tilt roter and was standing out there watching it fly!!! It’s amazing

  • @notar1
    @notar1 18 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they had a rough start ,but I hope we start to see more of them

  • @FourDollaRacing
    @FourDollaRacing 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My absolute favorite Yewtoob vid! Reverse-peddle turns with a nod to the camera....hell yeah.

  • @solo-bayonetas
    @solo-bayonetas 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing Video & Fantastic Aircraft, Excellent!!! Regards

  • @TDOBrandano
    @TDOBrandano 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, my wording was incorrect. It can fly and hover on one engine only, and land in helicopter mode on one engine only. As you say it can do a rolling takeoff or landing with the rotors angled forward, which might prove useful in high and hot situations or if flying slightly overloaded. This is also true for several helicopters with a wheeled landing gear that may make a rolling takeoff to take advantage of translational lift when operating from airports.

  • @DrSid42
    @DrSid42 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Aviat92 Not sure about this one, but Ospray has both rotors linked with one shaft and it can land with one engine propelling both rotors.

  • @rocktruggy03
    @rocktruggy03 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw this craft stopping in for fuel at KLYH on it's last flight. It's now on display at the Udvar-Hazay Air and Space Museum in Northern Virginia.

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR I'll say it again, just in case you missed it the first 7 times I said it. A tilt rotor a/c is much less safe than a fixed wing a/c or helicopter in low and slow situations. It cannot glide nor can it autorotate effectively in the event of catastrophic engine failure under these conditions.

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR Also, the harrier is one of the most dangerous aircraft in US inventory for its own pilots because of its hybrid design. Its 'hybrid' design gives it no real advantage with a full combat loadout but in turn makes it an odd handling, comparatively slow, and comparatively under armed aircraft when set beside aircraft like the F-18A/B and C/D. The marines choice bomb truck is actually the F18-C/D due to its greater range, speed, and combat load when compared to the Harrier.

  • @mjkft22
    @mjkft22 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats what they said about the Wright Flyer too. And the first jet. And the first helicopter. And the first space shuttle. And now the VTOLS.
    Crazy

  • @Tjita1
    @Tjita1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @YourFatClownAss I checked now: according to Wikipedia they are: "The V-22's two Rolls-Royce AE 1107C engines are connected by drive shafts to a common center gearbox so that one engine can power both proprotors if an engine failure occurs."

  • @budyzr63
    @budyzr63 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that they have better computers the safety of this type of aircraft will continue to inprove, helps to have a good programmer too.

  • @neper1982
    @neper1982 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    NICE CONCEPT, NICE LOOKING PLANE

  • @SergeantPsycho
    @SergeantPsycho 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm serious. All the offices, waiting area, and maintanence areas can be in a one or two story building, with the tiltrotor landing on top.

  • @nakazatoGTR
    @nakazatoGTR 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR The nice thing about the V-22 is that it has two engines, which are interconnected. If one should fail, the aircraft can fly safely on one engine. If both engines should fail (Which is very rare), then it can glide down should it have sufficient forward airspeed. Also, if you have sufficient airspeed and one engine working, you can make a running landing with the nacelles at a 60-degree pitch (As recommended by the manufacturer).

  • @AeroSail727
    @AeroSail727 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @mang8219 undergoing certification currently. It takes years for that to happen. same with any other new aircraft. the only other tiltrotor is strictly military but they are looking at it to be equipped for civilian use

  • @adooma1984
    @adooma1984 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see a civilian version of a tilt rotor aircraft (BA 609 tilt rotor)

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR The 'single design deficiency' is one of the most important given the V-22 intended mission. Low and slow is when it will likely see fire and is when catastrophic engine failure is most likely to occur. You're telling me an aircraft pretty much falling out of the sky with no ability to glide/autorotate should it take sufficient fire or have a malfunction is acceptable?

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR My point about the AH-64 was this: claiming a component can take "20mm hits" and that component actually taking 20mm hits and the aircraft staying in the air are two very different things. The AH-64 is supposed to be able to take 23mm cannon fire to the crew compartment as well as the engines. That 64's crew compartment was breached by the smallest caliber cartridge it would likely encounter. That's not to say the 64 is a bad bird, just that armor claims are all but worthless irl.

  • @VictorLepanto
    @VictorLepanto 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is an interesting idea. I hope so. Are you certain the engine nacelles would rotate up in the event of midflight engine failure? If they are locked in the forward position, autorotation wouldn't then would it?

  • @TDOBrandano
    @TDOBrandano 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    The engines are interconnected via a shaft running through the wingspar. The plane can fly and land both in airplane and helicopter mode on one engine only, powering both rotors. I doubt it can autorotate. It's not theoretically impossible, but the twisted blades make it rather unlikely.

  • @TDOBrandano
    @TDOBrandano 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oops, sorry, I got one letter wrong. The full name is Bell XV-15, and it also has a wikipedia entry. I'd paste it in full, but I believe TH-cam disables links. The name of the page on wikipedia is Bell_XV-15 , though

  • @claudio.lquevedo
    @claudio.lquevedo 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent video.

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR As for the armored nacelles argument. The AH-64 is supposed to be able to withstand up to 23mm cannon fire but has been brought down with small arms fire(7.62x39 and 7.62x54r) more than once. Armor on an aircraft is a hoakie concept in and of itself due to the weight limitations imposed. Additionally armor is never 100% effective to its limits. Would you trust a 20mm direct hit to a V-22's nacell in flight? Would you trust a 23mm cannon round to an AH-64 cockpit?

  • @AeroSail727
    @AeroSail727 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AeroSail727 also there are some delays and what not that have added time before the craft becomes available

  • @sheik480
    @sheik480 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    The V-22 Osprey can be pressureized, but that would add unnecessary weight and complexity. Mainly, the ability to pressurize is added for comfort, which isn't needed on a millitary model.

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR Yes, a V-22 can glide, BUT while vertical taking off/landing and operating bellow stall speed it CANNOT glide without a good amount of altitude. It is safe to say while taking off/landing and other low speed operations, a VTOL transports bread and butter, a V-22 will NOT have sufficient altitude to gain enough speed to begin a glide.

  • @TDOBrandano
    @TDOBrandano 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    no, but it can fly and land with only one engine running, the same as all twin engined helicopters. The rotors are interconnected.

  • @HuevosAzules
    @HuevosAzules 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    does this one have a one way bearing so it can do auto rotations?

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @SixCeroSix Losing engine power is far more likely than a complete airframe failure as with the case of a aircraft losing a wing or helicopter losing its rotor. A tilt rotor CANglide provided it has sufficient speed/altitude. But considering the majority of a tilt rotors flight envelope is low and slow it cannot glide and is incapable of autorotation creating a very dangerous situation that isn't present on a fixed wing a/c or helicopter.

  • @BlueBugTDI
    @BlueBugTDI 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    If one engine fails, there is double redundancy as both powerplants are connected by a drive shaft through the wing. You run on one engine until you land.

  • @AG0525
    @AG0525 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this music - video clip very well made. Agree it is a matter of taste, i am young, so suppose this electro stuff fits my brains quite well.

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR Not only does the Space Shuttle have larger wings, its fuselage type is that of a lifting body AND it travels at an extremely high rate of speed to attain its glide slope. As I said, in a low and slow situation the a tilt rotor cannot safely autorotate like a helicopter can nor can it safely glide like a fixed wing aircraft can making it less safe than either type of aircraft in the event of a low and slow engine failure. What does astrophysics have to do with anything?

  • @peterschiller2451
    @peterschiller2451 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect for rich people. Instead privatejet, take one of these. They are about 500kmh fast, what is slower than privatejet, but you can start direct from your home/office and you save time you would need to the airport.

  • @jor070
    @jor070 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there a chance to get a version of this video with no music (so we can listen the original sound engine) ?

  • @galan98
    @galan98 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    It strrongly resembles Bell's XV-15, the technology testbed for both this and the Osprey. It flew successfully for many years.
    g.

  • @Dogmeat1950
    @Dogmeat1950 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR um.. no they had a 30mm fire up through the underside of the Apache at less then 100meters. Choppers are not tanks but they can take some hits.

  • @sheik480
    @sheik480 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you mean by having the props at 90degrees? Parallel or perpendicular to the ground?

  • @ingdolci
    @ingdolci 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was a Bell/agusta project but now is developed just by agusta : is an italian tiltrotor!
    agusta develop its crashworthiness sistems in partnership with politecnic of Milan
    into the LaST lab, the best crashworthiness lab in the world

  • @HuevosAzules
    @HuevosAzules 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow.. thats great.. i want one now

  • @33vortex
    @33vortex 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed, I'd never want to fly a tilt-rotor a/c. The concept is inherently dangerous.

  • @Tjita1
    @Tjita1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @truck501 Let's just hope it doesn't have an engine failure while in vertical mode, shall we?

  • @schlusselmensch
    @schlusselmensch 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    A snowball's chance in hell of succeeding in the marketplace.

  • @215jami
    @215jami 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @li7in6 You miss the whole point of the aircraft, which is two fold Standoff and Capability.. They worked the bugs out of the chip and they seem to be performing quite well. There is inherent danger anytime you go up in anything, however there is a measure of acceptable risk that is taken into account when weighing the operational gains. This craft is a whole new ballgame operationaly and strategic wise and it fits the needs not the wants of the Marine Corps quite well.

  • @thedarkprinceVvvvV
    @thedarkprinceVvvvV 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the music playing in this video its sweet!

  • @Knightfang1
    @Knightfang1 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope this thing is more reliable than the V-22 osprey. it's smaller which might be a plus. after all the mechanical trouble and crashes the v-22's have had, many believe they should never have been put into service.

  • @TexasKoz
    @TexasKoz 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    One engine landing? No problem. Combining gearbox transfers power to both nacelles. Same with V-22 and other two rotor multi-engine systems.

  • @quentinlau
    @quentinlau 18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for leaving a comment on my video. Tiltrotor planes are indeed quite unusual, aren't they?

  • @philorkill
    @philorkill 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome music! What is it?

  • @215alessio
    @215alessio 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Akinyamok why?

  • @Airbiscuitmaker
    @Airbiscuitmaker 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hm, more than five years have passed since this demonstration video, but why don't we see these plane/helicopter-hybrids FAR MORE these days yet?

  • @qimag1
    @qimag1 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    its a beauty. How much for it???

  • @TDOBrandano
    @TDOBrandano 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are confusing the BA609 with the X15. They do look similar, but as you can see the X15 had a twin tail setup as the V22, while the BA609 has a T tail. The 609 is the rototype of a commercial executive tiltrotor, while the X15 was a pure prototype. This plane still flies, and is nearly through the flight test programme. AFAIK orders have already been placed for the production run, and they are already being assembled.

  • @C172Pilotdude
    @C172Pilotdude 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's considered a powered lift aircraft and I don't believe there are any in service yet.

  • @fordgt402
    @fordgt402 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one hell of a sweet ride,i think troop transport or copter is going to be decomission soon,

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @SixCeroSix Your assertion that 'the ends justify the means' due to the profound effect tilt rotor technology may or may not have on humanity is also debatable. As I said from the beginning, tilt rotor aircraft have major safety deficiencies compared to fixed and rotor wing aircraft. If a loss of power occurs in a large portion of their flight envelope they simply fall out of the air.

  • @Tjita1
    @Tjita1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @YourFatClownAss Autorotation with assymmetrically mounted rotors, one of them being out, would probably be completely unflyable, so yeah, a bit safer. :) One big issue with this thing is of course that it can't land like a normal plane, due to the big propellers/rotors.
    As for that thing I saw in the magazine, I think the idea was to create a cheap, simple and efficient way to haul cargo shorter distances. Don't think they ever made it.

  • @sheik480
    @sheik480 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    That WAS going to my point exactly, but you got there first (no sarcasm on my part).

  • @saigonnais
    @saigonnais 18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any airline that currently uses a tiltrotor plane?
    A few year ago, I read that the Australian golf player, Greg Norman, ordered a civilian version of tiltrotor plane. Has he received it yet ?

  • @RoboTekno
    @RoboTekno 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it! :D

  • @majstealth
    @majstealth 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone knows which date the qtr is ready for testing? for help quad tilt rotor

  • @JasirGressmann
    @JasirGressmann 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens when one engine fails?

  • @TexasKoz
    @TexasKoz 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything is different but the concept is the same. The 609 is smaller and has a "T" tail. The Osprey has an "H" tail. The avionics and flight controls are different.

  • @luto2000
    @luto2000 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's the crystal method, and it's very good music, ok?

  • @TheMrExot
    @TheMrExot 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    so, where can i buy it?

  • @techguy3000
    @techguy3000 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's sick!

  • @germany2010ful
    @germany2010ful 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone know the price of this plane?

  • @33vortex
    @33vortex 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree, any aircraft that is completely dependant on engine power to fly safely is a big risk. There is no built-in safety in the system, a chopper has a good chance to land safely despite engine failure, a airplane too. With this aircraft, forget it. Unless you have some sort of ballistic chute that can reduce rate of descent to survivable speeds, and that very quickly, but I find that solution unlikely.

  • @birramina
    @birramina 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    how much for this ? what's the pirce for comercial use ?

  • @Maexle1234
    @Maexle1234 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it noisy?

  • @mutatron
    @mutatron 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is that music?!

  • @s2k997
    @s2k997 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @germany2010ful $12 Million I believe. Considering the Osprey was 60-70 million a unit, this should be much more effective, and aimed at the civilian market. Let's hope the Italians get it right, because this can change everything from corporate suit's zooming around to much faster Coast Guard and Air Ambulance responses. I doubt this'll get it perfect, but in cost alone it's a big step forward, let's see if it works in the field however.

  • @totz83
    @totz83 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    They're known as Tiltrotor Aircrafts, I'd prefer if they were classified as Heliplanes though

  • @BrandonSchwarz
    @BrandonSchwarz 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was developed INTO the osprey. So infact its older than the osprey.

  • @borbor122
    @borbor122 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    That exactly it, these can go over 350 mph in airplane mode, the fastest helicopters in the world would consider 220 mph very dangerous. I can see these being used for rescue missions... saving lives can use faster vehicles.

  • @Squarerig
    @Squarerig 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hats off to this pilot!

  • @fordgt402
    @fordgt402 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess the pilot feels like hes flying a chopper and a plane at the same time.

  • @Knightfang1
    @Knightfang1 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    if it was just one crash i might be inclined to agree but it has been several crashes, and many fatalities. and the aircraft has been grounded several times as a result.

  • @firzahaz
    @firzahaz 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    TurboPro is very nice, and i'd like it

  • @navyone1978
    @navyone1978 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    the v-22 has deployed, with marines, overseas... trust me, i saw them in the gulf...

  • @TexasKoz
    @TexasKoz 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neither the Osprey nor the 609 can land in airplane mode. The blades would hit the ground. A run-on landing with a 30 degree tilt in the nacelles is possible though.

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @zulu3006 They are not safer than helicopters which have the ability to effectivly autorotate from low altitudes and low airspeeds. Power failure in a tilt rotor in a low and slow scenario will result in a crash as there is not inherent safety measure built into the design. It can neither glide as effectively as a fixed wing a/c nor can it autorotate as a helicopter.

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @aaron8862006 All tilt rotors have a large danger zone when traveling low and slow such as shortly before landing or shortly after takeoff. During this time the A/C does not have the altitude or the speed to initiate a glide/autorotation should there by a catastrophic power failure. Fixed wing aircraft can safely glide in such situations and helicopters will have sufficient head speed to autorotate to a safe landing. A tilt rotor will simple fall out of the sky in such situations.

  • @Doowoo
    @Doowoo 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    good idea :D... but its actually old :P. Have you played Command & Conquer :). The idea you are talking about reminds me of the Orcas ;)

  • @larueferguson
    @larueferguson 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    seems umm tiny?

  • @riceski
    @riceski 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it's an airplane that doubles as a circus ride?

  • @sheik480
    @sheik480 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or, as usually happens when an engine is lost, they can fly back to base and land it.

  • @mikegmdw1
    @mikegmdw1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful technology - Mike w Riyadh

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR You get your information strait for the bell website? Well now, That must be as unbiased a source as they come.
    Here's a little tip. A company will never down talk something they are trying to sell. Of coarse Bell is going to have nothing but good to say about their V-22, BA-609, and the tiltrotor concept as a whole. Ask someone at Chevy who makes the best cars/trucks. Then go ask someone at Ford.

  • @vanepico
    @vanepico 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    if they lose an engine they would be flying with props at 90 degrees, they would need to land horizontally and smack the blades on the ground

  • @freespeachrulez
    @freespeachrulez 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    This thing seems very un realistic, just saying the engine size and blade size would be half that for a forward flying plane. Well I guess they are using them so they must come in handy for carriers, or a ship with no landing surface.. But then wouldn't a helicopter work? Is it because these can go faster in the air in airplane mode?

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR Not all military aircraft are bad. Many modern a/c have proven to be greater successes than they were even intended to be such as the AH-1, F-15, A-10, and F-16. All came in within budget, did the job they were designed to well, and were redesigned for missions they never were intended for and succeeded at those too. A key designed for many locks within budget is a success. A key that needs its one lock designed around it that is way over budget AND kills marines is not a success.

  • @joaosil
    @joaosil 18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes they are, but amazing what technology is achieving too.

  • @blekoldshaflo2
    @blekoldshaflo2 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    What type of licence I need to fly it???...ATPL(H) or ATPL(A)??....I'm confused......by the way I think that an helicopter pilot can fly much better than a aeroplane pilot in it cause it land and take-off vertically...

  • @215alessio
    @215alessio 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @215alessio
    still prefer the airbus a 340, 380 or the boeing 777 :) I if 1 rotor spins out of controll the whole thing is doomed to crash. the small wings and heavy engines don't allow it to glide and it isn't fuel efficient either.

  • @JulianoRangelcmte
    @JulianoRangelcmte 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eu só fico curioso pra saber como ele se comporta voando mono, se tem motor crítico ou dois moteres críticos

  • @SixCeroSix
    @SixCeroSix 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @li7in6 And in the event of a power failure tilt rotor aircraft do in fact glide contrary to popular belief. All of the "safety deficiencies" you've noted are no different from the kind you'd find on any other aircraft out there. If a helicopter loses its rotor it "falls out of the air" as well. And if a fixed wing craft loses its wings it also "falls out of the air" the risk with this aircraft are really the same as with any other. If it worries you so much don't fly at all.

  • @balboa20007
    @balboa20007 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that heli or plan ??????

  • @li7in6
    @li7in6 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nakazatoGTR The AV-8 has proven itself as a bad bird on its own unreliable, finicky, and dangerous merits and is hated/feared even by its own pilots. The VTOL F-35 has yet to prove itself one way or the other so I reserve judgment, I do know it hasn't claimed even close to as many lives as the V-22 during its development so that counts for something.