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Responding to Someone Who WANTS to Go to Hell
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- How should Christians respond to someone who says they want to go to Hell? Here are some quick thoughts.
First, it’s completely appropriate for Christians to warn people of the coming judgment. After all, Jesus did. In fact, Jesus uses some pretty graphic imagery when he tells people it’s better to pluck out your eye or cut off your hand if they cause you to sin than to be cast into Hell.
Think of it this way. Just as any decent person would warn someone of the dangers of taking cocaine, any decent Christian, who believes in a real coming judgment, should warn others of the dangers of sin.
This raises a question, when do we give up on warning people? This leads to my second point: Christian, it’s not your job to save people. Warn people? Yes. Correct people? Sure. Share the gospel? Absolutely. But there comes a time when you’ve done or said all you can. You can’t force someone to follow Jesus.
Third, if you’re going to respond to someone’s public posts, remember to speak truth with grace. In other words, don’t be a jerk. Let me do my best to model that with a response to her first challenge.
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One thing to consider: when responding to someone's tiktok who clearly has no interest in God, you may not be witnessing to that tiktoker, but you may be witnessing to other viewers reading the comments. It's the same reason Christian apologists debate on stage, they know they are unlikely to convince their opponents, but they may convince the audience. Grace and love are crucial witnessing tools, even in comments with people you'll never meet.
Very true. Lee Strobel calls this ricochet evangelism.
Well put.
@@RedPenLogicTim, I would never discourage a believer with good answers from responding to atheist trolls. Not for their sake, but because other believers need strengthening.
For every Christian who responds poorly, there are more who have no response at all and may even have their faith undermined if the troll goes unanswered.
Maybe Lee would call this ricochet teaching.
Very good point!
EXACTLY
I had a guy threaten me while I was doing some street ministry. I plainly looked at him and said “would you want me to warn a blind man in the road if oncoming traffic” he said “yes”, then I told him, “how much greater should I warn, you, a blind man, of hell”. He walked away.
Edit: to everyone saying “there is no evidence of hell”, there are reasons to believe in a just God, and justice necessitates some place for it to be served, and/or because of the existence of free will, there needs to be a place where people can exist apart from God. If the guy asked me why I believe in hell, I would have told him why. I’m going out expecting questions.
Edit edit: people keep stating “at least you can see *blank*”, hence why I said blind man. A blind man cannot see what is coming at him. That’s the point! That’s why those who see warn the blind man! To all the Christians who read this, learn the evidence for hell, and learn how to share the gospel. For the nonbelievers we may seem like annoying people who are trying to put fear in y’all, but we ourselves are afraid of where you might go, we share out of the love of our hearts. God bless yall.
I like that. I use a child for an analogy. If I see a young child walking towards a big fire, I am going to warn the child, if it continues I may shout a stronger warning and if this does nothing then I will do whatever it takes to stop that child from falling into the fire. Although sometimes, there's no stopping them.
Classic! A real "Joe Kirby" moment!
Good job!
He walked away because you’re annoying not because you’re 3rd grade recital was profound 😅
Sorry, there is no heaven, hell, or god.
@kokomo9764
If there is no God then why are you reading through comments on a Christian video
It just gives me chills down my spine to see someone so calmly say something like this may God have mercy
I honestly don't want God's mercy for this type of arrogance. She will get her request - and with horror she will have to endure it - FOR EVER. 😊👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Jesus is an indoctrination nobody is that dumb to believe
Agree with you 100%
@@IansDrumsandBassthere's no gate like christian love
@@depressedphilosopherbitch7581 That's where the world gets God wrong - He's not just a God of love and grace and mercy, He's also a God of anger and wrath and jealousy and revenge.
I used to be agnostic and borderline atheist, but I couldn’t shake the beckoning I felt was coming from something pure. I’m now a follower of Christ and my scales have been removed. Only those who seek God will come to understand and see. Those who don’t, will never know
Welcome to the fold brother! God bless you mightily for turning to Him and Wisdom.
@@devinbuettgenbach2941 thank you brother. I’m trying
@@Jerrymc1975 Just remember to trust in our God and everything will fall into place. All things work together for the good of them that love God, sometimes it just takes a while for us to see that reality.
They will all know, but for some it will be too late. Since there is a time for man to be born and to die, after which comes judgement, all who denied God and Christ will come to understanding when they are gathered in front of the white throne and the books are opened. Then there is no pleading for mercy, no second changes, no time to be born again.
Amen
She doesn’t even realize what she’s asking for.
On one hand she wants to deny the existence of God, but on the other hand says she wants to go to Hell. Hmmmm interesting. She will accept the concept of Hell if it means she does not have to listen to Christians, who only want people to hear the Gospels so that they can make more informed decision to either accept Salvation or freely choose to deny Salvation.🤔
@@DigbyOdel-et3xx If you take her 'I want to go to Hell' seriously, then yes. I don't. I think it's pretty clear that what she's saying is that she'd rather risk going to Hell than accept God. She's taking the 'short' position on Pascal's Wager, essentially.
Of course, she doesn't actually believe in Hell, or she's insane, because no one would knowingly choose eternal damnation for non-eternal non-damnation.
When an atheist says don't pray for me I wanna go to hell, its bc they dont believe in it. They're atheists....geddit?
No?....oh never mind
@@christianhayter Why are you Anti Christ? imma pray for you
@christianhayter if an atheist don't believe in the existence of God, what is the problem if we pray for them? If there is no one to listen and respond to the prayer, what is the danger if someone is praying for you? What could happen? 😅
It's sad how much people's pride will destroy them, not only now, but for eternity.
Let's not assume that she will be destroyed. Let's pray for her and believe, by faith, that she we get saved.
@@pegc9889Amen.
You mean theological pride?
Sadist? Trying to warn people of eternal damnation is sadist, but not only wanting to suffer, but trying to encourage other people to suffer eternal damnation isn't? @@velkyn1
@@velkyn1Is it sadistic to believe people should be punished for their crimes‽ Going against the creator of all things is just that. The easiest way to prove the Biblical world view and that God exists is prophecy. The Bible is batting %1000 in that department. From the coming of Jesus Christ and his crucifixion, Israel being born in a day, the Euphrates river drying up and today’s global socioeconomic geopolitical world climate. It’s all there written plainly thousands of years ago. I implore you to take a hard look at what Gods word has to say as the God of creation yearns for you to do so. God bless and peace be with you.
Something that God told my mother that has always stuck with me was “The result is not your responsibility. Your responsibility is to be obedient”
I think this is an amazing way to not get discouraged when people are stubborn towards the gospel and to put the result in God’s hands.
Amazing, I've jotted that down.
God has revealed this to me as well, and it has been so freeing! It's not my job to save anybody. That's the Holy Spirit's job. It's my job to share the Gospel and to pray. I do this to the best of my ability in obedience to the Lord. I felt such a huge burden for the souls of the people I was sharing with, but I know that that was never a burden meant for me. Jesus has set me free from it, and I actually share the Gospel MORE now because I don't feel so stressed and scared to get it wrong.
@@bunny_0288amen lady i felt the same but regarding my uncle. I literally BUTCHERED THE GOSPEL! But some how the truth worked as a lion and i secretly found that his ideas were destroyed and he constructed a new tower. So God is working on my uncle even if i butchered the gospel. Many things which we're immoral bothered me but now not much bothers me again. Because God will destroy all that is evil one day. And im happy to see their destruction because im tired of sinning!
Amen thanks for sharing woman! Im a young man! Who needs to write down what you said! Amen Glory be to GOD AND MOTHER MARY!
While it's not my job to be 'obedient', it is my job to 'watch' and analyze people for their intentions and trustworthiness. Figure out Risk, Tolerance, Boundary, Gap, and Zones.
One of my favorite quotes from G.K. Chesterton "it isn't that Christianity has been tried and found false, it has been found too difficult and left untried." Her clip here expresses that perfectly, that she just doesn't want to put in the footwork to come to the proper conclusion.
Maybe if christians weren't the literal opposite of what they preach we would take their beliefs seriously
@randomusername3873 Of course, I mean that Catholicism was not tried; plenty of Catholics were tried, and found guilty. My point is that the world did not tire of the church’s ideal, but of its reality. Monasteries were impugned not for the chastity of monks, but for the unchastity of monks. Christianity was unpopular not because of the humility, but of the arrogance of Christians. Certainly, if the church failed it was largely through the churchmen. … [T]he great ideals of the past failed not by being outlived (which must mean over-lived), but by not being lived enough. Mankind has not passed through the Middle Ages. Rather mankind has retreated from the Middle Ages in reaction and rout. The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried. (G. K. Chesterton
You kind of walked right into that one
@Ausaris G.K. Chesterton, when making this statement, was actually still an atheist, and he came to this conclusion while reading other atheists. Even here in your response, rather than desiring the context of the quote, rather than asking questions or looking into it, you jump to a conclusion and ridicule. This does not jump out to me as a rational response. It is purely emotional and, in many ways, shows the truth in the quote in the way I meant to express it towards the lady in the video.
@@randomusername3873 literally just look at saints?
Stop using the damn LITERALLY word!!
The sad truth is that she’ll get exactly what she wants, but it won’t be what she expects.
Well, you never know, many Christians were once hardcore atheists. As long as she's still alive, there's still a chance to reach her. She doesn't understand what she's asking. So she needs prayer. Pray that God will send the right person her way to reach her.
Not sure how you think that when she explicitly stated she wants braindead cultists to stop patting themselves on the back for "saving her" from nothing and yet there's an entire response video ignoring that and all you braindead cultists still crowing about how she should be "saved"
She clearly doesn’t think hell is real. She’s not asking to let her go to hell, she’s asking you to leave people alone
@@mcdawol I know we shouldn't harass people about Jesus, but people need to be warned. She's most likely responding to constant harassment from Christians. And those Christians harassing her are pushing her further away from God than she already is.
@@healingthroughchrist1988 preaching and preachers are enough to turn people away from god
As a Christian, all of us have to NEVER say "I saved them!" Say "I lead someone to Christ." It is a fact that no Christian can save anyone from eternal damnation.
If I can help save just one person (by being the instrument of the Holy Spirit), my life will have had meaning.
@@williamwilson1222 Yeah, here is your chance. I praise Dragon, praise Lucifer, praise the World Serpent!
@@truekoreanightcore4090 Your mockery, and the lack of a legitimate relationship, makes this a “cast not your pearls before swine” moment. I can pray for you, but everything else is a waste of time.
@@williamwilson1222that's exactly how I feel ❤ God bless you brother
@WalkOfFaith12he needs prayer.
I’ve talked with someone who kept saying that Hell would be fun. She thought Hell would be full of “fun” orgies and other such things. I pray so hard for her.
It's so amazing that people like you don't understand you're being effed with lmao. People who aren't brainwashed into your cult don't believe hell exists, we aren't mentally toddlers who believe in Santa well into our adulthood and think he's watching our every move to make sure we're good.
The woman you were talking to treated your religion like the absolute joke it is, and your response was to waste your own time and energy re-convincing yourself you're not as stupid as your upbringing made you and everyone around you can easily see.
Must be rough.
:( These people thing that they will go there with whatever form of morality they have and live in a little island without pesky Christians doing what ever they want. Problem EVERYTHING and ANYTHING we enjoy in this life is literally a result of his presence, nature or attribute. Once you are separated from Him, there is no peace, no ease, no rest, no happiness, no light, no kindness, no gratitude, no blessing. Literally being removed from him is to be only present in the absence of Him. Darkness, fear, terror, hunger, violence, rape, etc, etc. The watered down morality they think people possess is literally borrowed from Him and will also be absent. The denizens of hell will not be able to exhibit humility, gratitude, kindness, rest, peace, care, compassion, mercy, justice, beauty... for they won't be in them. All those good things are all HIS attributes and they stay with Him... why would anyone want to be separated from that into an eternal existence of horror.... and if you think hell is crazy after a year, just wait after 10 years of "evolution" people getting even more creative with evil.... have you seen how creative people have gotten with their debauchery in just the last decade alone? Imagine 100 years they'll be really creative... 1000 years of coming up with new sin......10000 years? A million years of evolving sin? I don't even have the capacity to imagine what horrors and perversions they would come up with in hell after that unfathomable amount of time.... the fact that God throws it into a fire is probably a small mercy to keep it from regressing into infinite existential horror.
@@evolgenius1150 just to be clear no they don't want to go to hell to have their own morality and live without christians
they *don't believe in the nonsense fairy tales you do* and want lunatics like you who vomit 1000 words of schizophrenic delusions in their face like you just did to all of us to leave them alone because they're smarter than you and more capable of discerning fantasy and reality. Something you had child abused out of you clearly.
@@evolgenius1150What do you mean by that last sentence? That Hell will be destroyed?
What about all the souls there? Just cease to exist? Like the atheist version of death?
I’d say maybe that’s a relief if it weren’t for the fact of having to spend even a single second, let alone thousands of years in Hell first. It sounds infinitely worse than anything I’ve gone through in life.
Even atheists have God with them while alive, don’t they?
I would recommend her to watch Great Miracle Avenue
I feel bad for that lady, she seems so nice and sincere. I pray her heart is open, she needs answers just like everyone else.
Actually so thankful this girl made this video. Think about all the Christians who will be praying for her salvation now. I pray she is RADICALLY transformed and becomes one of the Christians she's addressing in this video.
I hope so, but most Christians I know are selfish a** holes. I do like your comment. I grew up in the b.s. of religion and I can tell you if anything it put a huge dent in my relationship with God.
I truly believe that if Jesus came back right now, it would be the Christians that would want him gone, not the heathen.
Amen and hallelujah!!! Nothing happens by accident. She will be saved in Jesus mighty name. We thank you Lord for her salvation and for her testimony In the name of Jesus. Amen.
Actually She’s very useful in Her state of unbelief.Of course this is from God also.
😂😂😂😂
You aren't supposed to pray for reprobates. There is a difference between not knowing God, and knowing God but rejecting God. You pray for the former, not the latter. Why? Because some people will never meet God no matter what you do, and your prayers are utterly wasted on them. God respects free will, he will show you the door but he won't push you through it. People reject him and that is their choice, they choose it so your prayers are empty. If they have knowingly become an enemy of God, than prayer for them is the worst thing you can do.
I’m not gonna lead someone to Heaven that clearly doesn’t want to go there. I will just continue to love them. Pray for them. God will do the rest.
I agree. I'm no expert on this topic, but at the very least she had a point in saying "We" are not interested. It's sad for sure, but if she truly doesn't care, we have to accept the opinion.
Curious how your god says you need to pray for them and your prayers will be answered, if you are a true believer. Considering how I've been prayed for by hundreds of christians in their need that I agree with them, it seems not a one of you is a true believer, or your god is simply imaginary. Christians are quite the failed frauds.
@@velkyn1 We cannot pray to take away your free will to choose to go to hell, when we pray for people it is not guaranteed that you will be saved. If that was the case then EVERYONE would be saved, because no true christian would want ANYONE to go to hell. We will continue to pray for people and be kind to people and if some of that leads more people to Christ then awesome. But it will still sadden our hearts when people choose otherwise. God bless you!!
What do you believe in, my friend?@@velkyn1
No one seeks God, no not one! You, me, her, had to hear the Gospel of Christ and be drawn by his Holy Spirit as Jesus taught Nicodemus. Everyone is a sinner, everyone is a rebel, and everyone is dead in their sin and trespasses. No, it is the indeed the Gospel that is the power of salvation and it is the Holy Spirit working in the hearts of man that leads to repentance and the resurrection of new life. Never think like this unbeliever on tik toc. That is godless understanding.
one of the devils biggest tricks was making people think that heaven is boring and too many rules, and hell is where you get to do whatever you want
technically in heaven, I will get to do what I’ve always wanted ❤🙌🏽 I long for the day i get to thank my Savior face to face and pour my love upon Him!
Oh boy, is that wrong
As a new viewer to this channel and it’s content, when you see how many people are commenting on Mr. B’s responses it shows people are thinking, many deeply, about what he says. This is such a needed channel in these confusing times…..well done.
There’s also a chance that the more comments there is on something, the more people are criticising what that person is saying in the video
Fair point….
Heartbreaking to hear, "Just let me go to hell." Continue to pray for our loved ones and share God's love with them guys!
Amen! Always praying over the lost and those in Christ because we all need Him. This is the first time I heard someone say this and felt so sad; how lost are people to think they want to go to hell and be without our Lord and His love forever?!
It is incredibly sad, just like a drunk begging to get drunk
What's frustrating is that she made a variety of mistakes in her critique of the Christian/theistic view. She'd probably be annoyed if we misrepresented her but yet she's totally OK when doing it to others.
everyone seems to assume satan is going to be horrid. if i go to hell then GOD is "punishing me" for my sins,
but why would satan want to punish me too? satan hates christians. if i'm being punished by satan, then satan is
doing god's work - that makes zero sense, hell is eternity having WAY MORE FUN than you ever could on earth, this
is what god hates, god wants you to suck his toes for eternity, satan is SAVING you from singing amazing grace for
eternity. hell is where satan thumbs his nose at god and gives everyone a good time, no mind control, no ten
commandments to follow, just eternal life that you can probably quit if you get bored with learning guitar from
hendrix or trying to grasp relativity from einstein. why would hell be undesirable? why would satan want to torment
me - he hates god and christians, not sinners.
@@filthy_peasant_the_one2134 why? hat do you care? when you're in heaven even if your kids are burning in hell you will be happy, or does hell allow you to be unhappy?
religion is stupid, grow up, take responsibility, stop hoping someone will save and forgive you - own your sin.
Nice response. I am convinced that "Don't Be a Jerk" is a crucial piece of advice for anyone wanting to comment on Social Media!
Many times it´s not about "being jerk", people often misinterpret things and motivations, don´t know REAL MEANING OF WORDS. Many times it´s "just frustration" - and what more, i can´t speak for others, but i want people to "be jerks" to me, because that´s means they care - opposite of love isn´t hate, it´s indifference. Jesus wasn´t some "hippie" (all the time), He could be "harsh"... sometimes is one "slap" better that hours of explaining. Even Peter wasn´t actually some "nice guy". I don´t like "yes-men"...
Actually, being a jerk can be a strategy, if one can hold their emotions to do so! Lets not mistake being nice for being kind. If you ask a woman out, and she turns you down each time with a silly excuse, is she being kind to you by lying and giving you false hope, or would she be more kind to hurt your feelings initially, but save you from being persistent when she just isnt in to you? Besides, the internet in particular lends itself to being like this. Watch what gets clicks (what people actually respond to) and you will instantly understand why sometimes it is necessary to NOT be nice.
@@inconnu4961 A painful truth is always better than a compassionate lie.
@@tonybuzzo4535are you justifying being a jerk
@@inconnu4961yeah
Telling people you live them when your wordview is that they will be rightful tortured forever is not kind
It's sad when people convince themselves that there isn't enough proof, that God exists. All we can do is pray that the enemy, losses his hold on them! Jesus help us all!
the enemy will not loosen his hold, You cast the demon out, and or pray her her heart to be softened to the Lord, her eyes be opened, an encounter with the Lord that brings her to her knees in repentance.
As a Christian it’s hard to hear someone say something like this. Our duty is to tell people about the Gospel of Christ.
Yes, we tell them, and let the Holy Spirit work on them with the seeds we planted. God bless!
What’s ironic about people who claim to want to go to hell is that they spend their lives avoiding anything that may come close to a hellish experience. Not only that, but if they truly wanted to go to hell, they’d stop taking advantage of God’s graces here, off themselves and go to where they say they want to go.
@@ayybeealternative1999facts. The amount of Christians saying modern medicine is playing God. Yet hit the ER every time something happens. Why you taking Tylenol for that headache? God wanted you to have that headache.
@@ayybeealternative1999 Wrong. The Bible is clear God is in control of things including when someone dies. If you "try to die faster" that is making a choice that is not your choice to make. Murder is murder whether it's yourself or someone else, & the Bible is clear where murderers go (unless they repent, & that doesn't apply if _you_ are the "victim").
@@ayybeealternative1999That isn’t what a Christian is. Christians want to go to heaven, but doesn’t everyone? The difference between a dictator believing in heaven and want to go there, and a Christian is that the Christian wants everyone else to go too. Killing yourself quickly doesn’t get anyone to heaven, much less yourself
@@ayybeealternative1999
Philippians 1:21 NLT
[21] For to me, living means living for Christ, and dying is even better.
[21] For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. [22] But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. [23] For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. [24] Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you. [25] And being confident of this, I know that I shall remain and continue with you all for your progress and joy of faith
@@ayybeealternative1999It basically means that while Christians live we will continue to serve Christ, remain obedient to God's will, and spread the gospel. Once we inevitably die, then we will be in heaven for eternity with God. So therefore the meaning "To live is Christ and to die is gain."
Even Penn Jillette, the outspoken atheist, once commented that if we truly believe that someone's life is endangered, it would be hateful to not tell them (paraphrasing here). We can't save people, but we can love them enough to point the right direction.
Amazing how God can speak through anyone or anything; and He always points us back to His Word.
I feel sympathy for this woman. Clearly she doesn't believe in a hell. But once you are there, there are no take backs. I hope she can swallow her pride and accept Jesus. He is the only thing that keeps ANY of us out of hell.
Thank you for the reminder that we can only warn and it is God's job to save!🙏❤️🙏❤️
"There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, in the end, 'Thy will be done.' All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it." -- C.S. Lewis
The Bible disagrees with CS Lewis.
Funny how the bible doesn't agree with what lewis invented. Per both jesus and paul, this god has already chosen who it will allow to accept it and then damns the rest for no fault of their own, Matthew 13 and Romans 9, among others. There is no choice. It's great to see how christians just make up nonsense.
@velkyn1 matthew 13 and Roman's 9 says nothing like what you've said. Matthew 13 is parables about people who hear of the faith, and how they will react, and Roman's 9 talks about how the Jews aren't automatically "God's chosen" just because of their ties to Abraham. I will assume you actually haven't read these chapters, because anyone who does wouldn't claim the things you did. Maybe read the Bible more thoroughly before you critique its message. Also predetermined salvation is a sect of christianity called Calvinism, and it isn't representative of the whole
@@velkyn1"for no fault of their own" I think you're a little bit confused here
@@velkyn1Yet again projecting your Calvinist background, hitchenite velkyn.
You don't need a lengthy response video once you realize that this woman says she "wants to go to hell" based on her premise that hell does not actually exist. It's like a criminal not believing prisons actually exist, while simultaneously saying "Leave me alone. Stop telling me to no longer commit (what you think are) crimes. I want to go to prison".
Unknowingly though, she’s still under the law. But what she doesn’t know she doesn’t know
er. everyone seems to assume satan is going to be horrid. if i go to hell then GOD is "punishing me" for my sins,
but why would satan want to punish me too? satan hates christians. if i'm being punished by satan, then satan is
doing god's work - that makes zero sense, hell is eternity having WAY MORE FUN than you ever could on earth, this
is what god hates, god wants you to suck his toes for eternity, satan is SAVING you from singing amazing grace for
eternity. hell is where satan thumbs his nose at god and gives everyone a good time, no mind control, no ten
commandments to follow, just eternal life that you can probably quit if you get bored with learning guitar from
hendrix or trying to grasp relativity from einstein. why would hell be undesirable? why would satan want to torment
me - he hates god and christians, not sinners.
@@dajourphil0soph3r36 sorry but you love quoting free will whenever you reach a sticky wicket, but i would use my free will to spit in god's eye and i would go to the beach for eternity.
your religion is silly and only silly people believe it.
@@HarryNicNicholasSatan hates God. And he hates all humans who bear God's image. Scripture states that God is goodness itself. It stands to reason then that goodness can only be experienced where God is. Hell is the one place He is not. So, there will be no good times in hell.
@@HarryNicNicholas Common misconception. Satan isn't the master of the hell. He's the first inmate. Scripture has a few places where Satan is a tempter, a force of evil, but the punishment of hell is never attributed to him. In fact, it's never a "punishment" at all. It's the natural conclusion of choices made in life.
What Christ teaches us is that those who cut themselves off from God are like deadwood pruned from a tree -- they are cast into fire and burned, while the tree and its healthy branches live.
This is part of the meaning of "by grace you have been saved." We deserve hell. Hell is the natural end to life. It's where this broken world, our broken souls, are supposed to go. God gives us an option we don't deserve, to something better, through Jesus. That's the deal.
Put it another way. Your argument is like a drowning man saying "don't throw me a rope, I don't want to get on your boat. The fish won't hurt me."
I remember how awkward and miserable it made me when someone started "witnessing" to me so I can absolutely sympathize with her. I got "saved" several times just to shut someone up. No amount of preaching and witnessing could have convinced me of my need for a Savior. It was when someone LIVED it before me, was sorrowful about his past sins, answered my questions unflinchingly when asked but never pushed or preached, and showed me what it meant to be a Christian that I was convicted and began to seek Christ for myself. I saw the genuine peace and hope in his life and wanted that for myself.
Yes, the Gospel must be preached but going in on people often just repels them and drives them away. I particularly hated it when I'd visit a friend's church only to find a group of people waiting to "encourage" me to come to the altar. I might have become a Christian years sooner if I hadn't been badgered about it so much growing up.
If I'm completely honest, it was the "Simon the sorcerer" event that was most deciding in my choice of paths. I was deeply involved in the occult at that point in my life and tried numerous things against this joyful, self-described, wretch who so irritated he with his peace. I tried several things against him but not only did they not work but I couldn't even do simple divination for several days after trying. He was plugged into something and I needed to find out what it was. By God's grace, I did.
So many people say “Don’t badger me towards a God!” as a cop out though.
Christians can be as nice and peaceful as they want towards people but we’re STILL pushing them. The trouble isn’t always the technique. A lot of it IS stubbornness on the persons part to let go of sin. Not wanting to confront it.
There are some people that came come to God your way. But many others see someone doing well in life and don’t make the same connection. Preaching and witnessing is STILL needed.
It makes me wonder if all those people really badgered you or made you actually question the reality of your sins and you didn’t feel comfortable seeing it?
I mean, you lied about being saved just to make them quiet. That shows a lot of animosity in your part with them to begin with.
@@TheKnoxvicious To me it was no different than someone trying to badger me into doing any other thing that I wasn't interested in doing. I absolutely was hostile towards it and didn't want to face my own sinfulness. The badgering was irritating because I knew I wasn't interested and told them so but they just wouldn't shut up.
I realize many people are reached that way, I'm just not one of them. Nowadays it's become people from varying denominations with wildly varying beliefs who try to start arguments about doctrinal correctness and I refuse to argue with people about religion or politics. I work with a guy who likes to pontificate about how correct his church is and tries to goad me into arguments. He will ask me what my Church teaches about such and such just so he can try to pick an argument. I just ignore him.
I think I just going to start telling people the truth, "I'm sorry but I'm autistic and genuinely don't care what you think. Now, please leave me alone."
@@MarvinThomas-nw3yi like you said, you didn't want to face your own sinfulness. Nobody does. The message of the gospel is a hard pill to swallow for people who are dead in their trespasses. It's easy when you're young to brush it off, because young people already feel invincible and like to believe they're in control of their own destiny. Although I grew up in and around the church, I never really gave my life to Christ until I was in my 30s. You kinda need to hit rock bottom and face the reality that you really don't know anything and are powerless to save yourself.
church only told me not to sin, but it seemed like arbitrary things to avoid. since i didn't understand much, i didn't take it seriously. when i kept having negative outcomes in my life, it drove me to rely on god. i learned why sin is wrong (which helped me to identify more sin). the difference between flesh and spirit is the main point. jesus said that the flesh profits nothing. and when we live by faith, that's within our spirit. recently i've been trying to get my mind out of the flesh reactions that i've lived in all my life. when i read the bible, i try to believe and accept it. i hope god blesses christians to understand how they should personally live, in order to share that with others.
God bless her and may she receive discernment to understand the truth.
I’ve just started evangelizing while I’m out mountain biking. It’s so interesting to hear how everyone responds. It’s so true that our job is only to sow the seeds and the rest is up to God and the individual.
If the message is from God who is perfect the message should be perfect correct?
If so, why do you think it’s so unconvincing and even needs to be evangelized at all ?
@@ancientflames Because it doesn't matter how clear and concise the message is if the recipient doesn't want to hear or understand it.
@@tonybuzzo4535 have you considered maybe the message just isn’t interesting, engaging or likely at all.
Do you really believe the only reason people don’t accept it is because they don’t understand ? What about people like me who were Christian their whole lives and even pastored a church? I think I understand just about anything biblical far better than you do.
i'd tell you tpo bugger off. if you want to be an irritant go ahead. you do realise that in the US it's highly unlikely that anyone HASN'T heard about god? that you don't have to tell anyone about your sky daddy?
just a quick reminder that the first amendment conflicts with the first commandment
"thou shalt worship whoever you want"
and that the declaration of human rights gives ME more rights than god.
is it annoying to you that the sa
@@tonybuzzo4535 so telling them a message thy don't want s a good idea, that makes sense coming from the dumbest of dumb religists. jeez you people SUCK at life.
just a quick reminder that the first amendment conflicts with the first commandment
"thou shalt worship whoever you want"
and that the declaration of human rights gives ME more rights than god.
is it annoying to you that the sa
If it weren't for somebody else, I'd be heading there. I'm glad somebody warned me.
Praise God!!
I like this. Calm and slow responses. It’s because I genuinely love you - yes, you! - that I cannot not tell you about what’s right and how we should then live our lives. I know not what other people may do, but as for me, I genuinely love others, and will speak out as such.
I didnt beleive for 50 yrs . I said to my mother in one of our last conversations
"I need proof" . some time later on the morning of mums funeral i recieved the proof before my eyes.
I am now on a spiritual journey love the lord in heaven the son and the holy spirit.
Was it a vision or a dream? What was it? A feeling?
What happened?
Truly in the last days, hours even...
Maranatha ✝️ 🙏🏻
Oh yeah, any moment now.... It's been said for the last 2000 years, but yeah....
@@piage84 *Matthew 24:45-51*
'45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
@@discipleaj mmm I read the passage, doesn't say anywhere that the end times are going got be in 2023 or 2024. Doesn't say it's going to be around 2050 or 2100. When are we getting this end time??
@royalpriest2696 No, it wasn't. You should keep your mouth shut regarding Biblical prophecy from now on as you are demonstrably wrong. You're clearly not equipped to teach when you can't even read what it says.
*Matthew 24:26-31*
'26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.'
That very same chapter. So, give me your best evidence this has taken place. Show me where Jesus has returned and gathered the elect from all over the earth???
You won't be able to because it hasn't happened. You are not equipped to teach and you have no business coming onto TH-cam to sling false accusations at true Christians. Now either show your best evidence or be silent.
@@piage84 Jesus's 2nd coming will be at a time when not a single human being, alive or dead, will expect it [Matthew 24:(36-39),44 , 25:13; Luke 12:40 , 21:34-36; John 5:28-29; Acts 3:19-21; 1 Corinthians 1:7, 4:5, 11:26; Philippians 3:20; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2,8; 2 Timothy 4:8; Titus 2:13; Hebrews 9:28 , 10:(24-25),37; James 5:7-9; 1 Peter 1:(3-5),13 , 4:13; 2 Peter 3:8-10; Jude 1:21; Revelation 3:11]. However, it'll occur while civilisation is still intact, in Jerusalem, at the Mount of Olives [Matthew 24:3-30; John 14:1-3; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Timothy 6:13-16; 2 Timothy 4:1; Revelation 1:1-20, 3:11, 22:12].
“… You know what, I’m gonna evangelize even harder.”
Be an even BIGGER asshole for Jesus?
Whether you want to go to heaven or hell, God will surely respect your desire. That is why God gave us free will!
This is what I’ve been saying recently. I see a lot of comments that seem like they’re mocking others who are lost. We should never do that. I’m not perfect and I’m tempted to do it, too. But we shouldn’t do it. We should show grace to the lost, and pray for them. Mocking them isn’t gunna help anybody.
True But there could be people just trolling on the internet causing people to be offended and run away from God, there are those who call themselves Christian who don’t actually follow the teachings of the Bible people who think to highly of themselves, who are actually lost themselves. the internet is full of all kinds of deception and broken people, I agree we need to speak from a place of love not mock, but love also calls people to repent,
People need to stay with their Bibles and not be deceived into thinking the internet is the place to learn truth about Christianity. The internet isnt trustworthy as so many lies are circulating around so i really pray that only learning from the trusted word of God through our Bibles and allowing Our Lord God Jesus Christ to guide us.
Man, being a Christian is hard and frustrating. You give evidence upon evidence upon evidence and warning upon warning upon warning and people just 👀 the other way. Well, we can only do the possible by warning. God will do the impossible by saving them. Thanks for the video Mr.B.
Jesus never said it would be easy but He did say the reward would be worth it
Just remember we are called to give the Gospel and make disciples. If the ground isn't fertile for this seed, then move on.
It’s easy if you ignore cognitive dissonance.
The easiest option of all is to just not believe fairy tales though. Requires no effort expect maybe reversing your childhood indoctrination.
@@ancientflames ?
@@ancientflames Childhood indoctrination like the fairy tale of fish to philosopher evolution?
"Don't be a jerk" was certainly one of the most important advice from Mr. B in this video. If we consider how proud, easily offended, and "truth resistant" people are these days (as many here, unfortunately, are still pointing out in their public - !! - commments), our best response is doing just like apostle Paul says: "And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but *be gentle* unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
*In meekness* instructing those that oppose themselves; if *God* peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And that they may recover *themselves* out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will." (2 Timothy 2:24-26)
Let's make a good use of words, guys! And trust *God* to do the rest! Nice video, Mr.B. may God keep enlightening and blessing you!
Same goes for you...
It is especially hard to do this through comments. One's tone & other markers like body language is missing, so it is easy to misread the intentions behind the comment & take offense.
Amen, a great verse to reference for this topic.
How is it "being a jerk" to be sceptical about a Hell that no one has ever demonstrated to be real?
Praying for her!!! ❤️❤️❤️
It breaks my heart that she feels like this. It’s so sad that some people that call themselves Christians but are not nice when “sharing” the gospel. I hope God softens her heart. Because she really seems to listen to what they’ve been saying to her.
Thanks TIm. This is very much needed. So many Christians have this idea in their head that they are the ones saving people.
It's not an idea.
@@kimberlysmith7625 What do you mean?
@@JonathanToole christian are full of themselves, they have the ultimate superiority complex "god is my best friend, here you can have god too" you're an irritant that's all.
you don't have god as a best friend, you have an imaginary friend as a best friend, bugger off.
Saving people from what?
I don't think people believe that. We're just following the Great Commission. Yes, God ultimately changes hearts, but he uses Christians to spread the message.
It's not helpful to pretend we don't play a part in the process. God uses people. We can't stop warning people just because someone pretends to "speak for all heathens". We must obey our savior.
if she knew what hell was and how bad it was, she would never say anything like that. There won't be any fun in hell, or friends; there won't be any rest or sleep or break from the eternal torment....... imagine your worst day.... add a migraine, and feeling horrible, sick, pains all over, like you wanna die, and there is no one to talk to, no hope, no love, no kindness, and you can't close your eyes and sleep to take a break from feeling awful, and it continues, minute after minute, day after day, forever..... forever does not stop, it continues forever.
How do you know what it will be like?
Heaven might not be any fun either, just endless chanting towards God forever, one never ending church service.
I want a bit of variety.
@@dhenderson1810 I'd rather be bored in heaven than burning in hell....
Remember people, when they say that you have to respect religion, it means respecting the idea that you deserve what the guy in the first comment is describing
How is respecting that socially acceptable again?
@@maxxomega6599 I want fun and relaxation, so I don't find either option attractive.
Heaven should be everything (non-sinful) you enjoyed on Earth with everyone you love. It should be like your favourite holiday, but going on forever, free from the crap that Earth offers you.
You don't KNOW. You don't KNOW anything because it is, by definition, impossible to know something that has no proof or evidence or even physical manifestation of its existence. You do not know, you simply claim. And in order to make a claim, you must back it up with evidence. Haven't heard any yet.
When I was about five I was at grownup church the preacher played an audiotape of demons scared me to death .
Our lord is so wonderful. Jesus loves us so much ❤. I can’t imagine not loving him back
With tears running down His face, "when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?"
She doesn’t want to go to hell, she just doesn’t think that it’s real so she wants to be left alone.
Hell isn't eternal though, it's the flames of the lake that are eternal. It's called the second death because your soul is burnt away forever. God-hating atheists literally get what they believe in after death, absolute nothingness they will be unaware of, for they will cease to exist.
@@escapetherace1943 So the flames in the lake are eternal....but the lake doesn't exist in Hell, because Hell isn't eternal...? So where is the lake?
Yes she does
@@rodiusmaximus I said it isn't eternal in a figurative sense, because you are unmade.
@@escapetherace1943 oh, so what you really mean is that it IS eternal, but A PERSON who goes there is NOT. So basically, it's not that bad. None of this burning for eternity, or eternal torture, because it's over in a few seconds.
This is also a wonderful reminder for fellow Christians who believe they have the power to soften hearts and win souls. Only God has that power. We're just tools...respectfully.
I agree
A-men!
Right. We just plant seeds and God handles the rest
100% true sister
The Rich Man is still there wishing he could warn people… 😢. As a Christian, I know she’s not going to listen to us talk, so I have to hope she can watch us walk. I will have to pray that Jesus gets her before she actually has to go there. Wasn’t he the one who prayed, “God forgive them; they no not what they do?” 😢
Wow, that's our enemy at work right there. I pray this young lady finds God and our Lord Jesus Christ. We will never stop trying to tell people about Christ so that HE can save them. Amen
I absolutely love this channel! It is an amazing gift. TY for you wise insights into apologetics! :)
I appreciate the encouragement.
Mmmmm what did you like about the response? Tim invoked science to respond to her point, but he clearly doesn't understand what the actual science says about the big bang, or he does know, cause Tim is smart, but hides the actual parts that don't work with his response.
So, again, what did you like about this?
@piage84 i liked everything about it. Feel free to expand on what you think he is wrong about it scientifically.
As Christians it is our responsibility to let others know of The Grace of God. We cannot save them, we can only speak of salvation through Christ and His love.
no it;s not, you can stuff your message where the sun doesn't shine.
just a quick reminder that the first amendment conflicts with the first commandment
"thou shalt worship whoever you want"
and that the declaration of human rights gives ME more rights than god.
is it annoying to you that the satanic temple has the same rights as christianity?
@@HarryNicNicholas
So you're saying governments are always morally correct?
How do you know anything about a God?
@@HarryNicNicholas I'll follow God's laws thanks, they're going to be around a lot longer than anyone on this planet. You do what you think you should.
There is no conflict between the 1st amendment and God's 1st commandment
1st Commandment;
*_I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me._*
1st Amendment;
*_Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof_*
That means that your Congress shall not make a law prohibiting a religion, or make a law establishing a religion, or prevent people from worshipping in their religion.
Someone stumbled into the wrong room.@@HarryNicNicholas
Every night I pray for those lost to be found. For those of darkness to become light. This is the way.
As Christians our job is to proclaim the good news of eternal life through Christ “the Way”. If you accept or reject that message is on you. We cannot save anyone. We can show the narrow road but it is up to you to take it. The Bible instructs us to shake the dust off our sandals and move on if the message is falling on deaf ears and leave the consequences on those who rejected it.
Very sad thing for her to say.
It’s wild how her definitions are totally different for “hell”, “God”, “explain”, and “anything”
First of all as a disciple of Jesus Christ, I want to thank this young lady for sharing her heart and her perspective.
I was really moved by that. If I could say anything to her, it would be this:
Though we may never meet in person, and I may never have an opportunity to talk to you, I will not cease to pray for you.
You need to know that beyond every disappointment, every hurt, and every scar that you carry is a very real and loving God who will not give up on you.
they "want" to go to hell because they think it doesn't exist. Or, they think it's going to be a big party. They have no clue the suffering and torment that awaits them
We should always be careful what we ask for lest it be granted.
Excellent response brother, to this young lady very untrained in logic and philosophy. Pride is always the greatest obstacle to admitting we are wrong. She would do well, if she could bring herself to it, to examine the history of the miraculous in the Church through history.
It's rather interesting to me how EVERYONE is complaining of their problems in this life as being unbearable, yet are completely fine to go to a place that is far worse than anything this life can pose.
If I am right , I gain everything...if I am wrong, I lose nothing... what is better logic?❤ God Bless those who are blind...
This was perfect timing for me. Thank you.
Imagine if non-believers were treated with love and grace, not only when being evangelized to, but in all of life's circumstances. They would experience the love of God and want what believers have. But, when they're attacked and met with ugliness, they will naturally be repelled. Thank you, RPL, for reflecting the love and grace of God.
Attacked and met with ugliness, like constantly having people threaten them with eternal torture for their own good?
@@darrennew8211 They seem to be approaching it wrong. If you're being berated and harrassed, I'm sorry.
I am not sure that even if all were treated with love and grace. I take the stance that one does not get to choose their beliefs, either something meets their internal standard of evidence for the claim and they believe, or it does not and they do not. To some, all it would take to get them to believe is sufficient evidence, it is the lack of this evidence and sound logical thinking surrounding it that is the corner stone of their lack of belief. More or less their stance is, until you provided me sufficient evidence to justify belief I see no reason to believe because there are multitudes of other religions which present the same flawed evidence and logic to support their claims.
@@kurtfrederiksen5538I get it Kurt, I really do. I’ve spoken to many atheists who say the same thing. I will say though that there is sufficient evidence out there for Jesus Christ. Evidence that has been sufficient enough for billions upon billions of people. And not just evidence, Christ can be experienced. It’s not about “Finding the right religion”. Jesus isn’t a religion, He is God in the flesh, an actual person who lives and breathes and walked on the Earth and is in historical records. It is possible though to close yourself off to the evidence as Paul says in the Bible:
“For the message of the cross is foolishness [absurd and illogical] to those who are perishing and spiritually dead [because they reject it], but to us who are being saved [by God’s grace] it is [the manifestation of] the power of God.”
1 Corinthians 1:18 AMP
I would challenge you to consider the evidence, which I will post next 👇
@@kurtfrederiksen5538 According to the Cambridge dictionary, the definition of “evidence” is: “one or more reasons for believing that something is or is not true.”
We know that Jesus of Nazareth was an actual person who existed about 2000 years ago. In fact Dr. Bart Ehrman, renowned atheist biblical scholar from the University of North Carolina says:
-Jesus’ existence is not debated by scholars of antiquity
-No scholar in the western world in a related field doubts Jesus existed
-Jesus is abundantly attested by early and independent sources
-“Atheists have done themselves a disservice by jumping on the bandwagon of mythicism.” That is, believing Jesus didn’t exist.
Consensus facts about Jesus from critical, non-Christian biblical scholars
1. Jesus did exist
2. Jesus was a profound moral teacher
3. Jesus had disciples
4. Jesus did extraordinary things including healings
5. Jesus claimed to be the messiah of Israel; many agree he claimed to be the unique Son of God
6. Jesus was crucified by order of Pontius Pilate
7. Jesus’ corpse was buried in a tomb by Joseph of Arimathea
8. Jesus’ tomb was found empty by women who followed him
9. Jesus’ disciples believed they experienced the living Jesus after his death
10. Jesus’ disciples believed he had risen from the dead; that changed their lives
According to Luke Johnson, a New Testament scholar at Emory University:
“Even the most critical historian can confidently assert that a Jew named Jesus worked as a teacher and wonder-worker in Palestine during the reign of Tiberius, was executed by crucifixion under the prefect Pontius Pilate and continued to have followers after his death.”
People perish for lack of knowledge..pray that in her questioning she receive truth..🙏
You say the things we all need to hear about dealing with those who reject truth, God, the Gospel.
She's a fool. She does not realize what she's asking for. You can see the anger in her face; she's obviously dealing with personal issues. My heart breaks for her.
Perhaps you’re the fool for thinking it’s real in the first place. 😅
@@ancientflames😅 I worry for you
How do you know you are not the fool for believing religious nonsense?
Further proof she is not angry or has a problem with you.....but she is angry and has a problem with God. We all need to pray for these people.
@@colinmatts you said it "religion" it's none sense but its actually reality people who aren't believers have seen hell
This was an amazing answer. I appreciate how you might handle the situation if it was presented to you in this fashion.
This needs to go Viral! The Lord always wins! God bless this man
It's easy to say you want to go to hell when you're sitting in the comfort of your home. But the moment you are in the burning flames and smell of sulfur and an unquenchable thirst that is to death but you can never die at that point you'll be wishing you can go back and say you know what, maybe we should have listened
She seems to be the type of person to get real mad when you point out that they're wrong about something.
we don't know that, we can just love her and pray for her
@@pegc9889 please don;t bother. and god needs you to advise him does he? you religists are so thick.
The fact you have to make up stuff about someone you don't know just shows how religion has poisoned your weak mind
@@piage84don’t throw stones when you live in a glass house, son.
@@piage84 *Tips fedora*
Reminds me of my children asking for things they think they want but I know they aren’t going to like it. Despite my warnings to contrary they still ask for the thing. Then I give them what they asked for and as predicted they whine and complain.
i mean, when it comes to god, your understanding is as good as anyone's else.
@@bamboo1763 ???
Sometimes I wonder if the best lesson is to "learn the hard way" and learn from consequences.
@@dhenderson1810
Ya sure the best way in this case is to let people realize they screwed up when they end up in hell.
@@dhenderson1810 And so it will be for some. Unfortunately given this consequence there is finality so there will be no learning. And that is the sad thing, hence why we plead.
I will still pray for her and everyone for that matter that doesn't know him. When Jesus returns she will literally wish she would've listened. 🙏🏼 It scares me to know that people have no fear of God at all. Scary
The anonymous authors of the bible thought that Jesus would return during their lifetime - he didn't.
But to be sure, next time you catch up with yourself/ the voice in your head you think god is, tell them next week doesn't work for me. Or the week after that. Or next year. Or ever 😂😂😂.
Wise words Sir! Jesus bless you!❤
I'm glad to see you doing another video. They are always excellent.
Love the way you speak “truth with grace”!
The modern social media influencer would rather shut down any type of conversation or argument that would force them to look into their own worldview. It's a feelings driven behavior over a fact driven behavior.
My sisters twin where born premature and while they where in that box on all tubes I prayed for them to life. They are now 14 and in great health. My wife had to do test in hospital because she felt dizzy a lot. I prayed for it not to be anything terminal. It wasnt. I once had such a high fever I could not even get to sleep. I prayed and somehow I fell a sleep and woke up all better in one night. To me these are miracles and prove god excist and is good. I dont care what other think. Its not faith to me it truth.
Amen! Well said! Thank you for sharing these teachings! I always look forward to when you upload.
Well said? What? The complete lack of understanding of the science behind the big bang Tim showed today really did it for you, hey?
Great response Mr. B! Thank you for what you do!
We will continue to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ, what the hearers do with that is up to them, and she doesn’t know what she is asking for, hell is no joke!
I just realized that TH-cam unsubscribed me from your channel. I was wondering why I wasn't seeing your videos pop up anymore. Please keep educating people, me and my friends and family really enjoy your videos.
Your third point of speaking with grace is why hearing this Tik Tok girl speak about the terrible comments is n her chat makes me so sad. If we are truly following Christ, we would not be insulting or attacking the character of people outside of highlighting their need for forgiveness of sins. Please pray for this girl and others like her.
What's so terrible about her comments? They sound quite intelligent to me
This makes me incredibly sad. If she never gets saved she will grossly regret wanting to go to hell. It's def not our job to save people, praise The Lord, but to see someone so far away from God and proud of it breaks my heart
Just face the TRUTH about the free will and freedom of Atheists, Religions, the Creator and Jesus Christ
All Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world
are
free to fill the world with their teachings and claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth
3. the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" are worthless and useless, no value whatsoever in their lives and existence
The CREATOR
is
free to honor and reward all followers of Jesus Christ and believers of his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
with
ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE without sufferings, pains griefs, sickness, and death on a safe and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, slanderers, perverts, deceivers, and murderers.
JESUS CHRIST
is
free to RESURRECT back to life all worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his disciples and followers, and many others so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist forever on a safe and peaceful earth as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and the Creator's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
Fantastic, concise response. I'd just add, in the analogy of the cheating wife, not only is she ignoring the evidence, she is actively trying to suppress it.
Pray for her!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you for this video. I enjoy the way you work through difficult questions or statements from nonbelievers.
Unfortunately Tim doesn't answer properly. He doesn't know the actual science he invokes and makes silly mistakes that in 2023, someone who tries to do apologetics honestly shouldn't make.
He's either ignorant or dishonest and in both cases is not a great look for someone who wants to "teach" people
@@piage84 What mistakes are you referring to? If you want your claim to be valid, you should provide some evidence to support your claim.
@@lesgohbrandon oh so you are ignorant of the big bang science as well and rather than maybe google it, you want me to explain it to you. Ok.
So, good ol Tim said that science, with the big bang theory, proves that the universe had a beginning, so he can smuggle in god as the guy who started it all. It's a pretty tactic that works on the ignorants.
Big bang theory says none of if that. Big bang theory says that 13.7 billions years ago all the energy in our universe was highly concentrated and it started expanding. The energy was already there, it didn't pop out of nothing. It doesn't also say anything re what was happening before the big bang, cause at the moment we can't observe it.
To recap, there's no creation in the big bang science, just a change, from very dense, to less dense.
Tim knows all of this, he's not stupid. He decided to omit all of that. As you can see, it worked cause a lot of people commented praising the Amazing response he did, when in fact he got the science completely wrong.
God, a being who exists outside of the universe, does not have to have a beginning just because everything found in the universe has a beginning.
He exists outside of creation, therefore He is not bound by the rules of creation.
It's crazy to think that once they are there, they will be so upset at themselves for trying so hard to not believe.
@@ayybeealternative1999 He doesn't. We choose. Isn't freedom of choice awesome?
This is a big misconception I see often. Atheists aren't atheists because they want to be. They simply are. As an atheist, I'd love to believe in God. I would be clear of doubt or fear. I would know that I'm not going to hell because I believe. I would also believe there to be an afterlife, and that death isn't the complete end. Truly, I would love to not be so uncertain. The issue is that I simply don't believe.
@@Number-id3dd There is a story in the new testament where Jesus is preaching and a father who's son was possessed and going nuts came up to him. The demon was throwing the son all over, trying to make him off himself. Even seeing all of it, the father couldn't believe, and in desperation asked Jesus to help his unbelief. Jesus threw the spirit out and cured him, and the father finally, seeing with his own eyes, believed. Sometimes we just need to ask him to show himself to us. He meets us where we are..
“Forgive them Father, for they do not know what they are doing”
- Jesus Christ
Pride is a dangerous thing.
The argument about the origin of the universe just reminded me of something I learned from some Lutheran thinkers.
It's probably better to start arguing from the resurrection of Christ instead of the bottom up approach from the beginning of the universe.
This way you are right at the central and most important point and the historic evidence is obviously good and strong.
Most discussions won't last long enough to get all the way from the beginning of the universe over the source of consciousness to Jesus.
It's a tricky one. Many people suggest that showing compassion and living your life holy is what will win people. I think that intellectuals will only be won through intellectual means. But then again, they usually think they already know all the answers, and arguing is pointless.
I used to feel a huge burden that I had to say exactly the right thing when sharing the Gospel with a non believer. Realizing that I am not responsible for saving anyone and that that's the job of the Holy Spirit has been SO FREEING! I now do my part to the best of my ability. I share the Gospel. I respectfully debate. I answer questions about the Bible. And I pray for the person I'm talking to. And if it's an online conversation like in the TH-cam comment section of a video, I also pray for anyone else who may someday read our conversation. Heck, someone could read a comment I wrote sharing the Gospel several years from now and it could plant a seed.
But I no longer worry about if I've done anything. Because that's not my job. My job is to share. To pray. To disciple believers. To love my neighbor. And that's it. And I have learned and grown so much! I LOVE having respectful, passionate debates with atheists. And when they ask me questions that I don't know, I love researching those questions and it helps me to grow in knowledge. And then the next time someone asks me that question, I'm ready for it! And I have no idea if I'm having any impact at all, but that isn't my concern. That's God's concern. I just have to continue being obedient to the Lord.
We must pray for her. She is lost and only Jesus and the Holy spirit and her will to let go of her understanding and having faith in him can open her eyes. And sadly Hell is a place we can't and don't wanna fathom in our worst nightmares. Plus Hell isn't the end; the Lake of Fire is worst then Hell and even demons are scared of that place. We must pray for her and ask God to soften her heart so his love can open her eyes before it's too late.
She asks, "Why can't the universe just have always existed?" Because it is proven to not be eternal. Also the fact that people want to say something created is eternal rather than worship the uncreated eternal shows the heart of the unregenerate that Paul speaks of in Romans 1:25.
Who proved it to "not be eternal"?
It's certainly not proven to not be eternal. Indeed, it has been proven to always have existed. The big bang isn't known to be the start of the universe, and even if it is, it is *still* the case the universe has always existed and there was never a time when it didn't exist.
And let's say God did indeed create the universe 13+ billion years ago. Well, that isn't the god of the bible, now is it? No six days, no garden of eden, no two humans eating fruit, no original sin. The logic doesn't follow: "Something created the universe, so now please chop off parts of your privates."
@@colinmatts Cosmologists, astrophysicists etc.
@@rodiusmaximus Thats not an answer. Try again. How have Cosmologists, astrophysicists etc. proved its not eternal?
@@kvasir8931 uh go look it up. Start with 'Big Bang theory'.
Even if you go on some wild goose chase and consider multi universes because our universe had to come from somewhere, and Newton's laws of thermodynamics must apply.....
well...that does not negate that THIS universe had a beginning.
It has been said, and rightly so, that for the believer, no amount of evidence is necessary, yet for the unbeliever, no amount of evidence is sufficient. No matter what we do or say, there are those who will, despite the best possible evidence, thoroughly reject the Gospel. All we can really do at that point is pray for them and then carry on with our own lives, as we are still sinners ourselves.
That is so true
Had you provided any actual evidence, I suspect a lot more people would believe. However, I have bunches of evidence for the world taking more than a week to come into existence, for there never having been only two humans, for no world-wide flood, no stopping of the sun in the sky, etc etc etc.
Wrong, actual evidence would suffice.
@@kvasir8931have you heard of the cell adhesion molecule, laminin? The thing that holds us together, is in the shape of a cross.
This is a silly argument. I, as an atheist, do NOT claim that no amount of evidence is sufficient. It's simply the case that no evidence so far has been sufficient, or even close to being actual evidence. I do not know what amount or type of evidence will convince me. However, there is somebody who does know. God. God should absolutely know what evidence it'll take to convince me. And the fact that he hasn't, makes me not believe him, which in turn condemns me to hell (supposedly), which means that God himself is condemning me to hell. What a horrible guy.
Please, do pray for me.
Wow….if she is asking us to stop commenting…then we must be doing our job…this encourages me…❤
I'm finally starting to understand that we don't need to get/understand why things are... we just have to have faith and wait on the Lord. Answers are coming we just need to make sure we're on the right side of the tracks
Thank you for the video 😊
The Lord’s love + grace be with you
Hope you are all well and resting in Jesus saving love + grace 😊
Blessings friends 😊
Excellent response
It is correct that we should not be rude to people if they don't want to hear the Gospel
We can only tell them about God
If they dont want to hear it then we can just pray
I don't want her to go to hell, please god don't let her go to hell! Please for the love of Jesus don't abandon her, dont let her go!
Respect everyone’s free will. Any “christian” who forces another isn’t a christian. We can only be an example to lead them to the real Christ. By showing our love, respect for free will, forgiveness as we’ve been forgiven, patience, etc. etc.