Ultimate Title Fight: Bisu vs. Jaedong PvZ - StarCraft Remastered
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Ultimate Title Fight: Bisu vs. Jaedong
The highly anticipated high-definition remake of StarCraft: Brood War launched earlier this year, and now StarCraft: Remastered has taken the big stage at BlizzCon. Fans voted for their favorite Brood War players, and now Kim ‘Bisu’ Taek Yong meets Lee ‘Jaedong’ Jae Dong in the Ultimate Title Fight (UTF).
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Me while watching this: "Hey these guys arent that good, they're floating quite a lot of minerals" - Then I realise that's actually their APM.
lol, nice one. Kudos on your picture.
What’s APM dude I’m new to this game
@@Alexhowarth Action per minute
lol this happened to me for the last match
Am i wrong to assume that at least half of all those apm are just random back n forth camera swaps/extra clicks?
It may be dated, but there's an aesthetic to the original SC that never gets old for me. Kinda like Diablo 2. Graphically, it hasn't aged terribly well, but somehow I still find it to be a beautiful game :D
much better than sc2 cartoonish look, starcraft looks like an adult game
SC1 original has aged stunningly. The only things that don't look great are some 3D effects like terran faces and such, but the rest looks beautiful.
its like watching the ultimate battle for aiur
it's pure entertainment
çok iyi
what year was this?
8-9 years ago, me being a kid watching Brood Wars.
I don't see this day happening.
At all.
And it does.
Game 1 starts 9:20
Game 2 28:00
Game 3 47:00
Game 4 1:01:33
Game 5 1:12:31
I don t blame then, they look all alike
We need more heroes like you.
Not all heroes wear capes. Thank you.
bless
thx dude
Cameraman hoping to god the gamer he picked was the right one
he had 1 job.................
Pretzels722 these asians all look the same dood
he was playing the opposite game
It's funny that of all the Koreans this could have happened with, Bisu was one of them. It's like "Bisu has the brown hair dude"
I thought got mixed up because of the dumb camerman. Realized at the end which is which.
TH-cam why did you recommend this. Miss you iNcontroL.
RIP to one of my favorite starcraft personalities. Dude was funny, smart, and full of insight.
The strategy of protoss putting dragoons and one zealot in front line with high templar supporting and putting many zealots behind is extrememly developed and it became very difficult for zerg players to defeat top class protoss player in large battle.
you are so right
It is amazing!
4:49 Wow, literally gave me goosebumps hearing the commentators from the old VioleTAK channel! Moletrap, Rise, Diggity and the almighty Klazart, they were a huge part of my life back then. Really makes me wanna go back and rewatch vods on their youtube channel. And let's not forget Cholera either, an absolute commentary legend like the others. GG guys, and thank you for everything
yeah. i'm actually surprised they used VioleTAK vids without even giving credits lol :D I'm sure Tasteless and Artosis knows them.
Blizzard, go and seek out Klazart (and convince his wife)! Tastetosis needs help sometimes!
Cholera & his "love" of Hyuk was always something to remember ...
It was his totally understandable love for Reach, The Man-Toss.
Voidroamer
hahahahh! yeah i totally remember klaz hiding from his wife doing a whisper cast :D :D :D :D :D
he said mrs. klazzart does not want him to do any casting anymore
1:02:27 "Even though it's a tight area, there's a lot of weird abusive stuff the zerg can do to you..." 😳
Caster: AND ON THE UPPER RIGHT SIDE-- BISUU!!
Program Director: Go zoom in on the Asian guy!
Control room guy: Which one?
Program Director: Just choose one! They can't tell the difference!
tough to see jaedong so sad. I hope all goes well with him, him and flash, bisu and stork represent starcraft to me like no one else. I love this game and its players and community, they've been the greatest thing for me, especially in rough times of life. all the love to jaedong, greatest zerg of all time
even tougher to know iNcontrol is gone en taro iNcontrol
You forgot lim yohwan. The Lord of marines
Im a fan of JD but Yellow should be better.
why is jaedong sad and what do you mean 'rough times of life' what happened? thanks
Jaedong may or not have been sad, but he was definitely tired. That's why he didn't try to go late game in any match and even ended game 5 early.
camera man is getting fired today
Duy Le why? I don’t everyone’s camera man jokes
He got the two players mixed up in the beginning XD
It's not the camera man. It's the guy in the control room who switches cameras.
@@Smubbs Actually It's the guy who tells the switch board guy.
Behind the scenes usually has 5 people controlling the cameras. one director tells a guy to use s a switch board and tell him to switch to camera 3,4,5,6,7 ect.
@@dustinsullivan6768 ahhaah right BISuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, ??? that is Jaedong dumbass XDDD
Comparing Tastosis' commentary from this BW feature match to any of theirs from SC2 really makes me think they still have more respect and belief for BW as the superior game. I really wish BW had more force behind it
BW still going strong
The attack sound of dts is so satisfying !
and the fact that they don't trigger warning, it makes them even more ninja :D
@@shapowlow IF they one shot a unit, they don't send an alert. Otherwise they're not so sneaky
@@ryapowa yup. That's what i meant.
I just realized how flavorful that is, units only warn if they stay alive
lings dying is good too
Remember when you tried to install Starcraft and your Key was taken and used by 100+ people ?
YES
? the key's weren't stored online, so how could that happen?
@@bjently the key was verified on Battle.net when playing online
I love that they have 500 apm with 7/8 workers, like smash that keyboard to keep you warm
It always makes me question their actual effective actions per minute. Although I'm inclined to believe its much higher in BW than in SC2 obviously.
and here I am having probleme to beat the regular campaign! those guys are awesome!
BISU is still in Top Tier form. I would not be surprised if he stays for at least one more ASL. He already has a Ro16 spot clinched and the only person that can beat him right now is flash.
yo bisu's out of the tournament. the only 2 left are hero and flash
Wtf this comment. "1 day ago". Bisu has won 3rd place match after losing to Flash.. You seem to be paying attention lol.
His game in the ASL for the 3rd place was his last as a progamer, at least for a couple years. He's leaving for the army. Jaedong is also leaving soon, not sure if he will play some more before he goes.
he won't be playing anytime soon because Bisu is going to do his mandatory military service after ASL. so yeah...
It's like Pokemon effort can beat flash, flash can beat bisu, and bisu can beat effort " most cases "
As a Korean learner it is great to go back and watch again after so much hard work and understand a lot of what they were saying.
That translator at the end is really good.
Man i feel so bad for JD he could've done so much if not for his injury :(
Starcraft 1 still maintains that perfect balance for Protoss, that is rewarding to play when you can defend against the Zerg rushes and your end game army is the most epic of the 3 races.
SC2 right now is in a big ball of mess where Zerg has a huge plethora of options from early harrassment to late game as well.
It must be really tough for casters to avoid the habit of just saying what's happening on the screen.. rather than talking about strats and stuff that viewers can't see.
I know I couldn't do a good job at it.
Props to the translator for remembering so much dialogue and to translate so well!
Also like to play this game?
She's very good
Man this translator/interviewer at the end is amazing
Shes too ugly tho
@@구독자500명되면이같은 no u
It's sad to see JD suffering from injuries :(
Seeing Incontrol in this made me sad.
R.I.P
lol... that ending's just awkward. "Here's the StarCraft developer, coming out to give you boys some flowers" lol
ikr
Flowers and a full mouth kiss
I was looking for a comment about that. One of the strangest things I've seen all week.
@@HeinekenLager Yeah intensely passionate and no hesitation from both sides.
In ancient times traditionally when men would come home victorious in war the town folk would adorn the champions with oils, incense, flowery wreaths and other luxuries to show their appreciation to the soldiers. And it's obvious we just witnessed a war.
That would be badass if they had a seperate TV screen just for Unit Profiles that are being clicked on by the observer. Just a bigass screen on the side with all the character faces
Wow Bisu is looking kind of different and dropped his hair dye... oh wait
9:30 rofl
Lmaooo
The only ones making noise were the crickets.
XD
wait, he aint no bisu
whatever, same korean :D
This is a good watch after getting bored with sc2
1:19:30 Jaedong looks so lost on stage
thats how you look when you mess up 20g's
@@snozzberrybush His AI glitched
Trust me I am in my 40s it gets harder as you get older. they know they weren't as good as when they were younger.
Which is weird cuz he’s been a pro gamer for a while lol
Longtime Jaedong fan,
This hurts to watch.
Someone was saying his wrists are done.
He made Bisu look like a Bonjwa
Like JV vs Varsity.
I feel sorry for Jaedong
fck u german
I remember back in the day when most pros floated like 200 APM and nc nada was insane for having like 300 APM. Both these guys rockin 350-450, lol. That's insanity. 7 moves a second.
In any event, awesome game series indeed.
having high APM is unimportant compared to how ur using it
NADA = KING SC PLAYER
mindless APM spam is just hurting yourself for no good reason or advantage. but its clearly hyping the lemmings crowds much
This is great...I mean, so many years later...This...Is great
SC 1 is better than 2 but I'm still missing the Korean casters :')
timebucks
Wow this looks super professional, formal, and high tech. I had no idea there was such hype and money in these events.
It's blizzcon...activision/blizzard only makes 8 billion usd/year lol. Makes the 20k prize look super cheap actually.
Imagine all those WoW subscriptions per month just racking up the BliZzy BaNk aCct
택용이 제동이 축하한다..택용이는 생일축하하고^^ 과거 날쌘돌이 외모의 맹랑한 제동이 기억이 새록새록 떠오르네..그 신들린 뮤탈 컨트롤이 보고싶었는데 안나와서 좀 아쉽구만^^
Tbh the production value in this wasn't good. When the camera actually zooms to wrong guy in the first intro and both players walk to stage just baffled it isn't really "a good show". Tastosis was actually good.
lmao @ cameraman at the start. I was like Wow, Bisu looks a lot different than I remember .....wait..... that's not Jaedong that's Bisu... lmao
u should read back what u commented lmao
Is it just me or is starcraft 1 just better than 2 and all its variations?
Some things got better, or easier, with Starcraft 2. Unit pathing and unit grouping for example. However Broodwar is still a classic and the difficulty of unit control really adds the to the skill ceiling.
Even the pathing is fixed by click spamming to constantly refresh the pathing. Its just another inhibition that actually folds into a mechanic to master. If your turning the corner of a piece of terrain and units stack up and you dont click spam the difference in pathing is huge managed vs. Unmanaged. Nothing is easy to do in BW. So styles of play really shine in what a player prioritizes their attention to as well as how how mechanically sound and fast they are at juggling all the micro macro.
Unit pathing and UI difficulties are not only a thing to master, they shift the overall mechanics. It's impossible to have effective deathballs in this game, and it also results in many inperfect (but very exciting) skirmishes. I like SC:BW much more
starcraft2 has fell into that trap where devs are constantly doing mass rebalances which makes it not as a good game. You learn a strategy a trick in sc2 then it becomes void on the next mass rebalance.
SC2 personally feels like a very formulaic approach towards RTS unlike SC1 which gives you a more unpredictable yet also creative and more realistic feel of RTS games......
That anti-rush build at the end was impressive.
So much more fun to watch than SC2.
I hope remastered causes a serious comeback of the original StarCraft.
Just giving my opinion. I don't really like old style graphic.
Is it safe to say by now it didn't? I' m really enjoying it though. Thought it looked the same at first, as I played it I spotted a lot of nice visual details that I liked, now I can't go back to the old graphics.
Danny Duchamp. It's not remastered at all. Have you seen the remastered Crash bandicoot trilogy? It's a real remastered game.
Look closer. Everything has more details on it. At first glance it looks the same 'cause of our point of view in the game.
The Crash Bandicoot games are remakes, not remasters.
I was so afraid for a second when I didn't hear Tasteless' voice in the beginning. I can't imagine anyone else to comment this other than him.
man, brood war is just so much more interesting to watch lol
I wish they had the observing features that they have in starcraft 2, they are slightly better in remastered at least
@Artuurs Z.
What's that?
Looks like the age of Jaedong has took the edge out of his crazy micro-intensive playstyle we saw in the glory days of SC1.
"It still runs."
Game 1- 9:18
Game 2- 27:56
Game 3- 46:54
Game 4- 1:01:27
Game 5- 1:12:28
Enjoy Brood War!
couldn't the corsair disable ability be used against lurkers and hydras? Is that ability used at all in tournaments?
Broockle yeah distruption web is very effective at protecting reavers from hydras
you would need to make a starport though.
@@XXRolando2008 you mean a fleet beacon, sir
The 2nd game is imbalanced, which is too partial to the Protoss (easy expansion).
Alguien me dice como se llama el segundo mapa que juegan?
That last match was a huge disappointment.
Wow. The translator. IQ of one million.
nice update~When the units fighting inside the Dark Swarm, have some glow effect!
Ultimate title fight? Flash eats them both for snack xD kinda silly. Still good games.
Omg this is awesome. I love sc1
Recuerdo cuando Iloveoooov fue el mejor terran de la época clásica, ahora es un entrenador de flash me parece.
The hive in Remastered looks so much better than the hive in SC2.... SC2 is annoyingly animated, and takes away from the original "realistic" look of Starcraft the original
Hopefully we get an armored zerg skin pack soon...
I think you meant organic look. The one in SC2 looks like plastic toy
Yeah and every building in SC2 looks so circular.
same with all blizzard games tbh
there is only one starcraft
2:50 - Inc just touched on why Broodwar is and always will be a classic, much moreso than SC2. Blizzard didn't meddle with the game, and yet play styles were always undergoing revolutions. The stasis of the game allowed player creativity, whereas SC2 is in constant flux and thus little creativity is present by the players.
Perhaps, it was all about the game and trying to fight against it, more than even the other player. But the kept tweaking, they balanced it with maps.
Yeah, SC1>SC2 anytime
dang rip incontrol
Tastosis a bit rusty on BW haha: missed lotspeed timing, jaedong's lack of flank against neo-bisu build, not praising the legendary bisu probe, the legendary jaedong army spread, missed important snipes (like the shuttle snipe in game 2).
Don't get me wrong, they still did a real great job. I hope they feature a lot of BW games in the future. I miss BW :( :(
^
It's not all on them, the observers are the real ones that push commentating along most of the time.
I still watch sc from the time boxer garimto and the player call grrrrrr
A girl in my school very love bisu and the man jealous call him bi ngo ( a food)
But in stratgy corner bisu style very good good stratgy good balance from resource and unit good control and he can play ́many unit from reaver corsair to dark templair archon arbiter ....
And his style play is nice very short game and easy ending
His biggest opponent is nada but bisu have high result vs nada
His favourite style vs nada is use dark templar
Spoiler...
Game 3: Anyone else feel bisu lost on purpose? Only 1 cannon on blue storm + sending out his zlots? I dunno... He also seemed slow as well...
why jaeding didnt just destroy pylon at last game? it would completely block towers and gateways
Lol @21:35 "But now, with these Dry-Goons!.."
Rob K 1:01:30 "make some noise fo... Jay-dog!"
That was awkward for that two champion. You know what i mean? I Felt awkward watching them noone comes to the stage to greet them and say a few words. Only the commentators voice was in the air. Uhh. That hurt me. Seconds at 6:01-6:26.
Flowers?! Whut.
He probably got a decent chunk of money already to play the "show match".
At 19:50
Bisu 113 fam
Jeadong : 89 fam
And it is protoss unit very expensive
Easy outplay by bisu
It is normal for Zerg to have lower supply than Protoss.
R.i.p. incontroll FeelsBadMan
Good, i hate zerg.
Jaedong looks sick, he is in pain
He is actually suffering from pain in the hand. His career is basically over... but good timing for him since he's Korean and has to do 2 years in the military
Ben Shumway that's sad, but he is still a pro, better than many others, best wishes for him
really? you think twigs like these guys would fit in any army? You must be kidding. also, since you point out that its a good timing to not do the military service I assume you did not do any. It was the best part of my life and Im going back into the military.
Good. Hope you stay there.
Me too! :D
i am new to star craft as of last night playing against my big brother and of course he kicked my butt. but i thought this was a great video
Raleigh Munn takes years but in my 20+ years of gaming there’s nothing more satisfying then a brood war win. Nothing else combines micro and macro strategies on the same level .
1:18:59
He has tears in his eyes gg
Try to not even blink your eyes within an hour. You will cry like on mustaffa's funeral
Game 2 Jaedong probably could have won if he picked off the pylon and/or high templars, but still Bisu played crazy good and frankly it seems impossible for zerg to win on that map.
(Spoiler:) that last game was was terrible by Jaedong; not even because he lost but because he was too slow and undedicated; that was like a C level play or less.
more tactical than sc2
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new sc sucks
Did they actually use clips from Moletrap, SC2GGRise & the VioletaK account? SO MUCH NOSTALGIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
40:54 why the egg blue?
Arif Sentana neutral
yes but why is it neutral
That's just part of the terrain. There are many such things in BW maps. There is even a map with a neutrural CC that is half hp.
part of the map. it's the way mapmakers create destructible rocks in brood war because there's no such thing as destructible rocks back then...
and yep, that's why destructible rocks are added in SC2
Nobody is answering that actual question: Why is that egg there? The reason I see (not really sure but I am thinking this from SC2 pov) is that adding the egg makes easier to wall off. If the egg wasn't there walling would be impossible.
It’s insane to me how good some players are and how this is shown like it’s a sport, but an e-sport? Not much of a pc gamer so I didn’t know this was a thing, how people are watching this in person and how there’s people commentating. Also, the commentators describe the game like a boxing match 🥊 haha
I cant wait for Falcon Paladin to get his chance on the big stage. He does such a great job at commentating and deserves to be there.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hes absolute trash i hope you're kidding
Hes so dumb during a live cast recently he said Jin air disbanded and are now called dragon Phoenix gaming like really hes clueless 🤣🤣🤣
@@noblecyborg-savage why are you here then? Leave it alone rather then flex on the internet
@@mr1rottenapple im here cause this video has nothing to do with falcon and you couldn't possibly nominate a worse wanna be commentator .... its almost as if...are you falcon on an alt account going around making fake comment about yourself?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jaedong doing a very sharp attack right here, bringing up overlords as well, so this DT should not be able to hold on everything, a HUGE amount of hydra just cutting trought, the DT gonna be picked up, and i believe Jaedong should be able to take this game !!!£
that just wonderful commentating bruh @1.10.00
As a Korean learner it is great hearing Bisu and Jaedong speak and being able to understand so much of what they are saying.
Zzz dislike
Rip incontrol :(
5 games of BW is too much in one sitting. they need to give them a break. have other players take over. I wish sc2 didn't suck so much.
Jaedong looks very tired and old. Sad
Jaedong apm was his weapon but since he got older his apm dropped also. This affected his overall game
He's only 27 wtf
Trying playing Starcraft with 400 apm 12 hours a day.
The prime age for pro gamer is 15-24. Also, I think his life didnt go very well when BroodWar got replaced by SC2.
I read this before he actually appeared in the video and expected a half dead skeleton to show up :p like ye they're adults now but he looks healthy right?
I played this game when i was in high school. And im good!
The hostess, oh my
Lol apparently Jake Tapper likes to comment SC1 professional games. Bit of a switch up from CNN.
awesome to see these legends still playing though most likely past their prime
Protoss > Zerg, Bisu the GOAT
almost teared up at the introductions... they want that monayyyy
Rip InControl....
Jaedong looks like Mr. Washee Washee in Family Guy maybe the haircut.
Better than Sc2
you are just a stupid hipster, that's it.
SC2 was a fun ride at the start. BW is life.
im guessing you may not like also Innovation.
I prefer Broodwar - no question about that. For me, it's more fun to play and more fun to watch. But SC2 is still pretty awesome and I can totally see some people preferring to play and/or watch SC2. And that's ok.
So I don't think it's right to say Broodwar is superior to SC2, just that you prefer it ;)
The basic mechanics of the game which they removed and dumbed down for sc2 will always be the reason why BW is better.