We all wanted to be like Peter McKinnon, Casey Neistat, Chris Hau, Matti Haapoja. So what happened dude? My Instagram: / lanelgibson #youtubers #youtube #photography
So Peter McKinnon contacted me on my Instagram and I would really like to post his perspective here! By the way if you go click on the channels commenting here you will find some of the best small TH-cam channels out there! Yo! Just got recommended your video about me and other creators. Watched it! Just wanted to say thanks for watching my videos all this time. Appreciate that! Reminded me of a friend of mine that told me a few weeks before I started my channel that TH-cam was a bad idea. It had all been done, there were so many huge channels out there already to compete with , and that it was “too saturated”. I ignored them all. I absolutely believe if you’ve got something unique to offer, be it a way of presenting yourself, a different opinion, the way you see the world - that’s all so unique to you that, TH-cam can never be too saturated. Maybe it’s just a little more thinking about how to approach the broadness of photography from a fresh perspective. That’s what I did when I started. Never had plans of it ending up here! I think a lot of folks forget that yes, this is indeed a business! I started it, with the shooed that it might become something I could rely on. So of course there are ads and sponsors. That’s all stuff I dreamed of one day. Most of us aren’t looking to just work 7 days a week, putting in what we put in, paying staff, paying for a studio, paying to bring content together for zero return. So, ads are an obvious means to an end! You absolutely made some great points in there. I especially liked the bit about looking at the quality of the videos from the beginning and noting you’re already passed that. So true! Anyway, I thought it’s as worth finding ya on here and saying thanks 🙂 I hope you keep making videos!
Now you’re both Legends! Thanks for making this video and the humility Peter conveyed was really dope! I just start taking TH-cam “serious” a couple months ago and have been enjoying the process deposit the relatively slow growth! Your sub count just increased by one! Happy creating!
Wow thats crazy that he heard of it so fast. I think you made a lot of awesome points, I myself have been having a lot of similar thoughts. Im not sure I ever wanted to be youtube famous, Ive just wanted to be appreciated, and known and really that probably just bleeds out from other things in life. But now I think Im content to have some paid gigs and maybe make some videos for myself if i feel so inclined. My tastes and desires are too eclectic to really be focused enough for the algorithm, and Im fine with that I guess, especially since I have no real desire to do any vlog or talking head type stuff. Ill just keep making videos for my friends businesses and call it good lol. @nomadikphoto @toxoarchery @AEMTechnology
Hey Lane - I want to give you a perspective that might hopefully shine some light on yours. I watch Peter McKinnon, have done for years. I don't buy anything he sells, I don't care about using any of the kit he's using. I am a writer/director, photographer on the side. I don't need any of that gear or those products. So here's something to think about... I don't watch PM or MH or CH for the tech they sell. I watch those guys because the way their videos make me feel. They all have a similarity in the fact that they're all pretty happy go lucky Canadian dudes who have pretty infectious positivity. That's it. The key (in my opinion) isn't trying to set-up the world's most informative photography channel. It's finding out what people like about YOU. In real life as well as online. Bring us into YOUR world, make us feel a certain way that we don't when we watch other channels. That's how you find your feet, that's how you find your audience. Tips and Tricks are helpful hooks, sure. But look at Jonna Jinton - She's huge. She's a photographer. She never sells a single bit of tech, yet the feeling you get watching her material is very poignant. That's the source of her popularity. Focus on the vibes man. Not the £££. Go take a photograph with a pinhole for all we care. Go draw a damn photo on a wall! People will end up watching it if they feel good when watching your videos :)
Money makes the world go round. If people don't get compensated in some way to do what they are good at, then they will have to stop doing it. Be happy your favorite creators have found a way to monetize their content creation so we can all continue to enjoy their work and they can afford to keep making it.
remember when a youtube video used to be made for a few reasons 1. it was fun 2. it was cool 3. it was educational. now its all about money and selling stuff / sponsorships. its sad
Man, I’m not trying to be disparaging here, but your problem starts with your premise. You wanted to be someone else. Peter McKinnon became successful by knowing his stuff and being himself. Becoming TH-cam famous isn’t a goal. It’s a result of finding what works for you. I started following these guys to see what I could learn from them. I really like Manny Ortiz, but I don’t watch much of his stuff anymore because he started talking about how awesome Hasselblad is. Whereas I still watch Sean Tucker because he still puts out videos that make me think. You need to ask yourself, do you want to be a photographer or a TH-camr? It isn’t the same thing.
You have a point man. But McKinnon has been an idol for alot of shooters. And a lot of grew some misconceptions going along this journey, but we live and learn.
TH-cam recommended this to me and I gotta say it was such a breath of fresh air. This is all very very true and it ends up being a mental battle with myself because I know all of this but I just keep postponing things and procrastinating wondering if I actually need those things and end up doing nothing. You motivated me to go out and do something with what I have without being stuck on the future or the outcome. The mind of a pessimistic overthinker, I guess. Thank you, man, all the way from Portugal. Wish all the best in the world and much success.
I kind of get the sentiment. I mean it happens with a lot of TH-camrs, they kind of go from feeling relatable to to megastars and the content changes. Peter's videos are what taught me how to use a camera back when he first got started. I loved that kind of stuff, then he moved more video centric and now it's like pit row F1 experiences which I am beyond happy for him and glad he found the success he has. In doing so for folks like myself and sound like you the reason why we liked these guys has kind of changes. For me now I look to creators like James Popsys and Sean Tucker, who don't really get to gear focused and just talk about the intangibles of photography which is what I value a lot more.
Yeah I think your right, it may just be the focus on gear all the time. I learned a lot from a variety of TH-camrs as well. I think it's just a strange situation since there is so much info out there now. My main concern is people falling down the camera gear rabbit hole. Thanks for commenting! :)
It's a bit of a meme at this point, but the saying: "gear doesn't matter" holds true. I get SOOO many comments on my videos asking about what camera to buy, or what lens to buy. We all care SO much about gear that it's easy to forget the things that actually matter.
Hi Anthony! Love your channel and I think you are the highest sub count to comment here! Your videos remind me of the good ol days of photography channels! :)
Great perspective. It's not the tool, it's the artist that makes things happen. I absolutely hate it when someone says " Your camera is awesome!" Will the right tool help you get the shot, yeah, but you have to quantify that tool or rent it for that job.
Loved this video man! I think every photographer has had this same realization at some point. TH-cam is hard for sure, but like Peter said in his response, when you bring your own flavor to it, it’s priceless.
On the slip side though, it is GOOD that youtube has injected new life into the camera market which really was dying a slow death. We can be thankful that we still have a healthy competition from manufacturers and even have a NEW player (Sony).
I can relate to this a bit - however.. Someone else becoming successful in your field doesn't mean there isn't space for others, it means that it's possible to become successful in that field.. If someone has a channel on a specific niche - it does provide value to cover new products being released in that niche. In fact - when some new product comes out.. I WANT to see peter's take on it, sponsored or not.. I was heavily inspired by these guys when I started but I work in the music studio world. If someone does a video that moves people - it isn't because of the product, it's because of the creator, and the storytelling, and presentation. The product is the feature. Having the same products as someone you admire unfortunately does not make you as "good" or even "similar" to them. It just means you have the same tools, now what you do with them is what makes you unique. I get a little bored when people have this perspective of, why are you promoting stuff everyone doesn't need.. Because no one needs any of this stuff.. hello.. We are creative people and it's fun to try and cover new and interesting things that are relevant to your work. When you work hard and companies in your field want you to to showcase their new product that's a sign of accomplishment and they think you will bring value to their company by working with them. It's not the creator saying you need this in order to be me.. lol. I've never seen any of those creators say anything even close to that. If you don't want to watch a video on a product.. don't click the video.. but if you like a creator.. and are curious.. watch it to support their success.. and use it as inspiration for your own journey.
I like your channel! So the assumption that people aren't working hard enough is not necessarily the case. Some folks work a full time job and then spend their days off working as a photographer or videographer or doing TH-cam. When creators only make a video when a new product comes out and all of them review the same product it's because they got paid for it. So the entire video is a commercial. We started with these creators because we loved their passion. I understand you have found a niche in the music business but not everyone will share in that success. But I by no means would tell them they are not trying enough or that they aren't good enough to make it! There are a lot of variables to the situation. Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation! Much appreciated! :)
Great reminder - I have to constantly remind myself to "use what I've already got," as you put it, and that everyone we admire had some kind of messy beginning.
Great video mate. Not sure why or how this came in my feed but yeah i feel exactly the same. Casey was my go-to but there was always something and still is about Peter McKinnon too. I notice it in setups and backdrops like yours too, I can spot a fellow fan a mile off and you see many channels with incredible video quality, super cinematic etc that just dont do well for god knows what reason. Thats why i was always and still am drawn to Casey and Van Neistat, its about the story rather than the incredible cinematics.
I was always amazed by these guys videos as well. Seeing how much time that went into the production value of their videos was kinda intimidating once you get into it yourself.
Great video Lane, think you nailed it. I really hate how the whole internet is just a huge selling machine, and most TH-cam videos are just click bait to get views, but often don’t have anything to do with what their title says. I am in my 70s, worked for one company for 30 years in video production and photography, and feel successful and lucky to have done that, and still do freelance gigs quite a bit. I love what I do, make a bit of cash here and there, don’t have a YT channel and don’t give a crap if I ever do.
Word dude. You said what I've been thinking about years. I've never got into what McKinnon does because there is zero content for somebody that wants to get ideas for cinematic content and to learn new techniques. The constant coffee drinking intro with oversimplification of the need of equipment and the loud attitude pushed me off of that kind of YTbers. I'd just wish this video would get more views.
Some great points here. I don't mind the ads, because I know this is their living. Some creators integrate ads well while others not so much. Then again many of the people paying creators for ads are very specific. But I am with you in the fact that so much of this content has made me think I need this camera and that camera and this light and in reality I jjust need to hit UPLOAD more. Subscribed, excited to see where you take this.
Those websites like story blocks or epidemic sounds etc. Are how these guys make extra money. The only difference is that a commercial on tv, pays the network. The youtube marketing pays the creator. Its a business. I also want to point out as I was also like you at one point. I love what these guys were doing. The issue isnt that you need the gear and all of that. Its that you need a personality. Pete is energetic and upbeat and it makes people watching feel good. Which also lends into they buying of products they are selling. I am not downplaying your statements. Only adding my thoughts on them. Create for the love it. Be authentic and hope for the best. Becoming a "content creator" and being successful at it, is just as hard as trying to play video games for a living. You need the charisma and energy for it. Going to sub to your channel. I like what you did with this.
I loved your video. I am one of those who "grew up" watching all these spectacular TH-camrs, since their beginnings. And I have a similar reading: they started (like thousands) as one more, but different factors, including perseverance and some good decisions, helped them stand out and eventually become spokespersons for all these brands. But of course it is up to you to be able to understand what is really necessary to do the job (if you are a photographer or videographer) and what is superfluous or unnecessary...or at least dispensable. If someone goes crazy and goes bankrupt buying things, it's not their fault... but yours.
This was on point ☝️. 100% I think I'm going to take out my NEX 3N and dusty manual Minolta's, Helios, etc and take some nice pictures this summer. I had an A7 in my basket, and decided to skip it, had A7r II in my basket as it was supposed to be a game changer for my landscape photography (99% of my stuff), then I had A7r III in my basket... Never went for it in the end... Realised I like my photos just the way they are, I'm not making money off my photography, I do it for the joy of it. Going out there, pressing that shutter button and feeling good about it. The end result or a picture is not even that important, I have seen it, I was there at that exact moment, framed and edited in my brain, CLICK. What happens after is less important... It's like hunters, they go for a hunt, cooks take care of what happens next. Subscribed.
From the beginning I was able to keep my TH-cam and my photography separate (I am a commercial photographer by trade). When it came to TH-cam I have always posted what I wanted and purely for the enjoyment of making videos. I had some success but never sold my soul, I took a very few hand picked sponsorships over the years. I still enjoy making videos on topics I find interesting. Your video is spot on, the constant sell sell sell showed down our throats has gotten so annoying! I believe when it comes down to, do TH-cam because of the passion, if you love the process, the filming the writing etc, not because you want to be famous. The rest will come naturally! I don’t think any of them (Pete, Mattie, Chris, etc) planned to be famous, I think they were truly passionate about what they shared, they also had a unique support system within the group, which was something that probably helped a bit too.
This was a great video - you made some great points, and it was cool to see that Peter reached out to you - he seems like a genuinely nice dude. I agree with him that there is plenty of room out there for new voices, and the gear doesn't matter - before YT, I remember hearing filmmakers talk about that. Keep making videos, you're doing great. The world needs the best version of you that there is. Cheers.
The biggest thing is none of the guys you mentioned actually got big on youtube doing photography... They got big showing you camera gear and tips on how to use your camera gear which is now pretty common knowledge. There are plenty of successful photography and videography channels but those don't do nearly as well in comparison to the "content creator" niche with all the next latest greatest gear reviews etc. They just show off gear in an appealing way ie travel, outdoors, exciting action adventure... etc! Now that these high end cameras are a dime a dozen and the new baseline for TH-cam quality there's nothing lavish about them and that big desire to know what's next has dramatically died down. Hence why people like Matti Haapoja got off the platform... they are beating a dying horse with those videos now. Peter McKinnon went film, half those other guys are all about their TH-cam courses now. It was largely an era brought on by the advancement in tech and there will be another wave of it eventually but it wont hit as big as that last one did!
This is facts. I started a camera channel, but realized that I wasn't adding anything to the space and I definitely didn't want to keep buying or renting gear for comparisons. The best thing to do is use your excellent camera skills for a more untapped niche in TH-cam.
The “one more this , one more that” is called GAS “Gear Acquisition Syndrome”. Funny too how I read that these companies also don’t really care if they get a bad review, that people will still buy their product, and having their MERCH being talked about (in the ALGORITHM) is way more important than whether the review is bad or not :…..)
Lane you hit on many things here that small channels (our channel included) need to hear. Your gear should be simple, economical, the bare essentials to create cinematic video and audio. We started with a massive setup but quickly re realized in the field that stuff was too much. Sold the Nikon, went back to iPhone, SmallRig cage, some ND filters, BlackMagic camera app, and DJI wireless mic. Throw in Insta 360 Pro Ace for run and gun, and that’s it. Cannot stress enough the importance of good audio. Thank you for this video. New sub for you. Keep it simple, and like Casey said - the best camera is the one you have with you. Cheers!
Lane, great video. I know TH-camrs need to make money and understand the advertising, but I don't trust the "paid" gear reviews anymore. I was so consumed by Casey's Daily Vlogs 9-10 years ago. I thought I had found my calling but instead I found my hobby, Photography and Videography. For me its more fun as a hobby than a job. New Sub - Thanks Chris
Great video and makes a lot of sense. I feel that they are now brands and that’s how they treat themselves and their channels and there is nothing wrong with that. It’s just that for anyone getting influenced by them needs to understand that you do not need all that they promote to get to where they are. What one needs to get to their level is the motivation with which they have turned up day after day and year after year to put out content. Again like you said even doing that you might still not make it but that’s just part of it. For me putting up content consistently on my channel is a creative outlet and nothing more. Wait! All of this is probably great content for my next vlog haha.
I have a similar mindset and I have been talking to some friends about this recently. The youtube camera market is SO saturated and has become nothing more than sponsored videos. Although many of the big name camera channels are backed by very talented individuals, their channels have become nothing more than sponsored video after sponsored video, For example at the time of leaving this comment the last 3 videos Peter Mckinnnon has put out have been sponsored. Like you mentioned, its hard to say "no" to money BUT it seems like we only see these guys show up anymore if they are selling something. I miss the art,
I agree with some of what you said, yes the market when PM, Chris Hau, and the like entered the scene is entirely different than today. The barrier for entry was lower because camera quality wasn't as ubiquitous as it is now, that's fair. BUT They were also making really valuable content. Tutorials, travel vlogs, and gear reviews are all things that helped US get into this hobby and make better videos than they did at the start. Nowadays you'll see that a lot of the videos they make have switched to a sort of mini-documentary style or more focus on their personal perspective. That's come from a response to the ubiquity of the camera market. People can still break out in YT, it just looks different than it did 10 years ago, and there is an even greater importance on sharing a unique voice with a unique perspective. As far as ads and collabs, you took a somewhat... for lack of a better term, "conspiratorial" approach? But it seems pretty obvious that ads pay for their lifestyle, and act as their income source. And collabs early on definitely just seemed genuine. Now I see the PM collabs as honest exposure opportunities for the smaller creators Peter talks to! How many people are suddenly aware of new film photographers from his latest vids?! It's awesome! I saw Pete DMd you on Insta, and I hope that you do keep making stuff too. This just seemed a little "down in the dumps" to me. I recommend revisiting why you started here :) And then focus on THAT and rediscover that joy of just making stuff.
I enjoyed this immensely. I also wanted to do this, but I suck at vlogging or putting myself on TH-cam. I am pretty great at helping my local businesses succeed with their marketing video needs. So thats what makes me a living. Peter inspired me to do just that, turned me right around from a time where I almost gave up my camera for good.
Great insight and knowledge ! A lot of folks get caught up with the hopes and hype of being able to repeat the success of their favorite idolized TH-camr. But sadly, TH-cam these days comes to pure luck in being found and your content being distributed. Almost 5 years and I’m finally starting to see tangible growth. Bottom line, do it to share you passion and creativity. Whatever comes from that, will be ok and just fine. Thank you for this video !
I can understand where you are coming from, I started my youtube channel less than a year ago, I have been following peter for over 5 years now and I have been a photographer for over 8 years now, so I do intentionally or unintentionally try to replicate a lot of his style into what I do. But taking a inspiration from someone else and then moulding it into something of your own is what I think is the beauty of this artform really is. I am happy to be a part of it. The video was really good! 😊
No idea how this came across my home page. But I like the message. I’m of the mindset of, post here for fun and as a creative outlet. If money comes from it, so be it, if not then oh well. You earned my sub my dude.
Thank you for making this vid bro. I appreciate it, defo helped with giving me food for thought. On a personal note, I was thinking of upgrading my camera from the canon 550D to something like an R10 just for better features and sensors
Hey Lane! This video intrigued me at first and as I continued watching I agreed with your points more and more. Also your setup looks amazing, I would like to know what brand/model your mic is, and totally think you should create a product review on it soon!
Thank you! :) It's the Shure MV7 mic with a Shure SM7B pop filter. They also have a MV7X which cost just a bit more. I will definitely do a product review on it soon!
I’ll die at my hospital management job unfortunately and got into it a little late but make enough money to have decent gear and pto to travel is nice. I found a few channels that gives me inspiration grainydays is one of my favorites enough to dip my toes in the film game. This video is great, glad you popped up on my feed. Everyone pushing that new new or saying “you wouldn’t believe this lens I bought for $____.99.”
Even though I have some pretty expensive equipment (I do photography for a living)... most of my TH-cam videos will have some bits and pieces shot with my phone... content is king. Authentic content is king. You're right. The "photo video TH-camr" thing seems a bit saturated and I am bored to tears by most of them, as it is all rehashing the same stuff, all kind of the same style, lighting setups etc etc. All VERY professional, but very very few will notice a TH-cam video being shot with a Cooke lens, as opposed to one shot with a Canon M50 and a kit lens. As long as the audio is clean and audible, the 32 bit flow really only impresses the one using it and hearing it back uncompressed on their studio monitors. The moment it hits TH-cams aggressive compression... and people watching it on phones, tablets and laptop screen and speakers... it's all a bit excessive. It is awesome USING great gear, but it is not necessary. Unless your video genre is that of Potato Jet etc that has to have the latest, because that is what you are talking about mostly.
Glad I stumbled upon this video, I remember discovering Peter's channel just as he was celebrating 200k subs and watching a lot of people say " Gear doesn't matter!, just start recording!" but as time went on and they get bigger and bigger you feel more and more left behind like what is even the point look how much far ahead they are? my life is not that interesting, I don't go on "adventures" worth filming! And the gear part I still agree with, you absolutely can start with just a smartphone still, I just think it's gotten harder and harder to find people that look like they really are doing it for the love of it instead of chasing the views, likes, subs and sponsorships. I shoot photos every day and post NONE of them just because of the anxiety that comes from thinking about reach, followers, growing, etc. I guess as long as you stay true to yourself and an audience finds you genuine, you have a real shot at "making it" otherwise the people see right through it and you'll never get past the gates of algorithm heaven.😂
Innovation is the heartbeat of progress, and it manifests in various forms, including how we engage with content creators like Peter McKinnon or any other photographer on platforms like TH-cam. The beauty lies in the diversity of perspectives; for some, these creators serve as sources of inspiration and entertainment, while for others, they represent invaluable mentors providing lessons in photography techniques and skills. It's important to recognize that while these creators may showcase and endorse various gadgets and equipment, their primary aim is often to share knowledge and spark creativity rather than to push sales. Ultimately, the decision to invest in the tools they endorse rests with the individual viewer. Each of us approaches these platforms with unique intentions and objectives. Some may seek entertainment and escapism, while others may view it as an educational resource to enhance their craft. Regardless of our motivations, the responsibility lies with us to discern how we engage with the content and apply it to our own lives and pursuits. It's unfair to place blame on TH-camrs for influencing our trajectory in photography or shaping our artistic styles. Instead, we should embrace the abundance of resources available to us, while also exercising critical thinking and autonomy in our consumption of content. By doing so, we can harness the power of innovation and creativity to chart our own unique paths in the world of photography.
It is a hard journey to be on, iv struggled with my channel, but i love my journeys / adventures. i had thought about starting a new channel from scratch but probably not really worth it. I hope you grow on yours :) thank you for sharing.
Cracking video man, really well spoken, shot and edited. You had something really interesting to talk about there and made great points. Your only 20 videos in man.....just the start of your journey. Keep up that quality and you will be motoring on real soon!
I find it interesting how a photographer films and edits a video to then talk about his photos as he is a photographer yet does more filming then photos
Genuinely hope for you this video blows up and gets you going. Came out of nowhere for me in Maastricht, Netherlands. Me simply commenting probably helps too. There’s a good message in your video, stick to your principles✌️
Thank you for saying this, I was a huge fan of Pete early on but when it became a constant flow of unattainable product marketing I fell off because I was able to recognize it right away, everything I watched became so perfectly polished because everyone was copying the successful guys like Pete and Matti, that it just got stale for me, not to take anything away from them they’re talented individuals but they just became so disconnected and I no longer felt like I could relate.
never ever wanted to be like any of those guys , respectfully. the majority of them lack soul. they all look the same and the work isn’t timeless. there’s just something that’s always missing with the work most of them do. Cartier -Bresson used the same camera and 50mm focus length for over 50 years and those guys will try to persuade people to buy this and buy that and aren’t even close to the magic he produced ! instant sub
This 100%. I went down this rabbit hole for years until I finally bought a 1934 Leica iii and 5cm Elmar 'kit' lens for 2 000kr and used it and used it until I finally mastered it. Probably the best 6 months of schooling I've ever had, from cutting the film leader to working out how to focus with a tiny secondary viewfinder.
@@OneTap__ He mentioned in a documentary that he felt it was the closest focal length to what the human eye saw. He was also heavily influenced by Impressionism, so having the ability to separate the subject from the background without too much distortion was close to what he envisaged.
That’s nice common sense, thanks for it. I also think that those guys pop up with motivation and perfect you tube timing, which seems nearly not possible now.
Well you got yourself into a bind with this one :) It’s your most popular video but it’s not in your wheelhouse. I’ve been there. Just roll with it. It was entertaining but I think if you pursue something and put 110% into it, it’ll happen.
The reality distortion field of TH-cam is insane. The algorithm demands spectacle and trends, and in turn that’s what gets delivered to most viewers, and the cycle continues. I love photography, but mostly loathe photography TH-cam for exactly the reasons you’re talking about. The best photography channels I do watch, and the only reason it’s worth it to make videos here are doing something that they love or making videos they enjoy making; not just chasing the next big spectacle or the hottest new gear. The grind of this platform just isn’t worth it otherwise.
I'd love to have that microphone :D lol Great video, thanks. It got recommended to me.. probably because I just discovered Benn Jordan's videos and watched one on how much companies are paying popular TH-camrs to "lie" - do 90 second ad reads, say that they love playing Raid Shadow Legends etc... Well, a lot!
@@LaneLGibsonEntertainment Of course! th-cam.com/video/40Q7usuG2Cw/w-d-xo.html The situation might be even worse in the music tech world, with an infinite amount of gadgets, software, plugins etc. you could buy. What do you think about putting affiliate links in your description, for equipment you bought, use and would recommend? It might be a slippery slope, I don't know!
I started my TH-cam channel in 2018 in the photography niche and have 45k subscribers because of a very niche topic that I fell into, even though my videos themselves weren't exactly cinematic. But if I was to start over, I would absolutely NOT do another photography channel. The barrier to entry is so high - the quality of videos in this niche is insane, and I just don't have the time or skills to outperform all of those existing creators. Even someone who's a great photographer isn't necessarily a great TH-cam video-maker. I mean, to make THAT quality of videos means I'd have to do nothing else... I wouldn't even have time to practice my actual craft anymore. What I would say to other photographers who want to be TH-camrs is to use your photography skills to start a channel based on a totally different interest. I have a gardening channel that I barely put much effort into, but grew SO much quicker and makes about the same in AdSense as the photography channel.
Love your channel! You have really great information on your channel and congratulations on its success. I think photographers really benefit from channels like yours because your not selling anything other than photography. I would love to reach your level of success in actual photography and TH-cam! I'd recommend people with this vid of yours: th-cam.com/video/IvoSuujpzLw/w-d-xo.html
This is one of the first times I’ve heard such common sense from someone on the creative side of TH-cam. I’m 25 and have been freelancing since 19. I learned these lessons the hard way. Even though I learned most from McKinnon & Co back then. What I do enjoy from Those creators is the fact that they deliver information in a fun/entertaining show-like way. It is enjoyable to watch and great to learn from. But when it comes to gear… take it with a grain of salt. If you can’t do it with a 400€/$ or so camera, you won’t be able to do it with a 2000€/$ + camera.
I think the emphasis will move away from technology and move towards unique and creative concepts and authentic creators...... there are a LOT of peter mckinnon duplicates out there... If you've got something new to share and empower your viewers... it can work. But the space is changing and evolving INCREDIBLY fast... so it's definitely more difficult. Althought... solid props on pronouncing Matti's name so well... I cannot do that. My only suggestion is find a niche space... Good luck. You make many points I concur with... keep doing what you do...as long as you enjoy it... if you enjoy it... keep it up... #subscribed...
Like is said in the book 'Think And Grow Rick' by Napoleon Hill: 1. A burning desire 2. Idea 3. Specialised Knowledge and 4. Imagination. I do agree that TH-cam and the big hitters have changed but still, If we consider all of those you mentioned in the video and compare them to those 4 points mentioned previously, they tick all 4 . I think if you stick to the basics you'll win in the end. If not you'll have had a heap load of fun doing what you did along the way and will have probably pushed yourself far outside of the everyday comfort zone. We all come into this game via inspirational characters but the ones that want to carve their own path soon realise that it isn't about what you buy, its about what you put in. Stay creative and keep on keeping on 💪!
I always see them as vaccum sales men that used to knock on doors but now they don't wear a suit. I haven't bought a new camera since 5 years and use it today on well paying jobs it's only 4k not 6 not 12 and 3 new generations of it exist but still use what I have and clients are happy with my results because gear isn't everything. These youtubers do what they do but most are single no kids no responsibility so they got time. They demonstrate things in their own house where they plan that one video for weeks to make it look so perfect where in reality you hired a location and you can only afford 3 hours to shoot including packing up so there's no time to test your lighting or composition there's not even time to pull out a giant softbox they brag about itll make your shot cinematic
Enjoyed the vid...i have a bit of a different opinion and the product stuff, never bothered. me. I've been following all of the same guys since Casey's Vlog. Wanted to go hard at one point....just enjoyed the content in the end. I have bought gear, don't regret most of it, I'm still trying to figure out my fit here if any, but life meets us all at different spots. I still think there is opportunity. It's a different hustle maybe, or maybe it's just making truly honest vids like this. It's all a journey and looking forward to seeing where it all goes and hopefully I can ride that wave when the time is right! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! (kinda wish I woulda went hard back then....but family and responsibilities were different...I have a couple years on you all...no regrets) ;-)
It’s a good call. You can get a cheap camera and lens second hand and get great quality without any lights etc. probably add a cheap microphone to improve audio. But’s what’s even more important is having a good story to tell or saying something that people want to hear. All the “quality” and gear is useless if the content of the video is boring
Nothing wrong with being inspired by them, but yea agree that replicating success exactly like another person can be difficult, if not unlikely. Gotta carve out your own path.
So Peter McKinnon contacted me on my Instagram and I would really like to post his perspective here! By the way if you go click on the channels commenting here you will find some of the best small TH-cam channels out there!
Yo!
Just got recommended your video about me and other creators. Watched it!
Just wanted to say thanks for watching my videos all this time. Appreciate that!
Reminded me of a friend of mine that told me a few weeks before I started my channel that TH-cam was a bad idea. It had all been done, there were so many huge channels out there already to compete with , and that it was “too saturated”.
I ignored them all.
I absolutely believe if you’ve got something unique to offer, be it a way of presenting yourself, a different opinion, the way you see the world - that’s all so unique to you that, TH-cam can never be too saturated. Maybe it’s just a little more thinking about how to approach the broadness of photography from a fresh perspective. That’s what I did when I started. Never had plans of it ending up here!
I think a lot of folks forget that yes, this is indeed a business! I started it, with the shooed that it might become something I could rely on.
So of course there are ads and sponsors. That’s all stuff I dreamed of one day. Most of us aren’t looking to just work 7 days a week, putting in what we put in, paying staff, paying for a studio, paying to bring content together for zero return. So, ads are an obvious means to an end!
You absolutely made some great points in there. I especially liked the bit about looking at the quality of the videos from the beginning and noting you’re already passed that. So true!
Anyway, I thought it’s as worth finding ya on here and saying thanks 🙂 I hope you keep making videos!
Really great video man, and that's a really great response from Peter!
Legend to respond and these are great thoughts!
Now you’re both Legends! Thanks for making this video and the humility Peter conveyed was really dope! I just start taking TH-cam “serious” a couple months ago and have been enjoying the process deposit the relatively slow growth! Your sub count just increased by one! Happy creating!
Wow thats crazy that he heard of it so fast. I think you made a lot of awesome points, I myself have been having a lot of similar thoughts. Im not sure I ever wanted to be youtube famous, Ive just wanted to be appreciated, and known and really that probably just bleeds out from other things in life. But now I think Im content to have some paid gigs and maybe make some videos for myself if i feel so inclined. My tastes and desires are too eclectic to really be focused enough for the algorithm, and Im fine with that I guess, especially since I have no real desire to do any vlog or talking head type stuff. Ill just keep making videos for my friends businesses and call it good lol. @nomadikphoto @toxoarchery @AEMTechnology
@@nomadikmind3979 NGL...I was blown away!
Hey Lane - I want to give you a perspective that might hopefully shine some light on yours.
I watch Peter McKinnon, have done for years. I don't buy anything he sells, I don't care about using any of the kit he's using.
I am a writer/director, photographer on the side. I don't need any of that gear or those products. So here's something to think about...
I don't watch PM or MH or CH for the tech they sell. I watch those guys because the way their videos make me feel. They all have a similarity in the fact that they're all pretty happy go lucky Canadian dudes who have pretty infectious positivity. That's it. The key (in my opinion) isn't trying to set-up the world's most informative photography channel.
It's finding out what people like about YOU. In real life as well as online. Bring us into YOUR world, make us feel a certain way that we don't when we watch other channels.
That's how you find your feet, that's how you find your audience. Tips and Tricks are helpful hooks, sure. But look at Jonna Jinton - She's huge. She's a photographer. She never sells a single bit of tech, yet the feeling you get watching her material is very poignant. That's the source of her popularity.
Focus on the vibes man. Not the £££.
Go take a photograph with a pinhole for all we care. Go draw a damn photo on a wall!
People will end up watching it if they feel good when watching your videos :)
"Canadian dues who have pretty infectious positivity" haha I absolutely love that! what a great way to sum them 3 lads up 😂😂
Money makes the world go round. If people don't get compensated in some way to do what they are good at, then they will have to stop doing it. Be happy your favorite creators have found a way to monetize their content creation so we can all continue to enjoy their work and they can afford to keep making it.
remember when a youtube video used to be made for a few reasons
1. it was fun
2. it was cool
3. it was educational.
now its all about money and selling stuff / sponsorships.
its sad
I still do it for fun!! 😊
Man, I’m not trying to be disparaging here, but your problem starts with your premise. You wanted to be someone else. Peter McKinnon became successful by knowing his stuff and being himself. Becoming TH-cam famous isn’t a goal. It’s a result of finding what works for you. I started following these guys to see what I could learn from them. I really like Manny Ortiz, but I don’t watch much of his stuff anymore because he started talking about how awesome Hasselblad is. Whereas I still watch Sean Tucker because he still puts out videos that make me think. You need to ask yourself, do you want to be a photographer or a TH-camr? It isn’t the same thing.
Amen, brother
Sean Tucker is just a charlatan. It is not photography since 2020.
You have a point man. But McKinnon has been an idol for alot of shooters. And a lot of grew some misconceptions going along this journey, but we live and learn.
An honest man speaks.
Thank you my friend!! :)
TH-cam recommended this to me and I gotta say it was such a breath of fresh air. This is all very very true and it ends up being a mental battle with myself because I know all of this but I just keep postponing things and procrastinating wondering if I actually need those things and end up doing nothing. You motivated me to go out and do something with what I have without being stuck on the future or the outcome. The mind of a pessimistic overthinker, I guess. Thank you, man, all the way from Portugal. Wish all the best in the world and much success.
You're very welcome! :)
I kind of get the sentiment. I mean it happens with a lot of TH-camrs, they kind of go from feeling relatable to to megastars and the content changes. Peter's videos are what taught me how to use a camera back when he first got started. I loved that kind of stuff, then he moved more video centric and now it's like pit row F1 experiences which I am beyond happy for him and glad he found the success he has. In doing so for folks like myself and sound like you the reason why we liked these guys has kind of changes. For me now I look to creators like James Popsys and Sean Tucker, who don't really get to gear focused and just talk about the intangibles of photography which is what I value a lot more.
Yeah I think your right, it may just be the focus on gear all the time. I learned a lot from a variety of TH-camrs as well. I think it's just a strange situation since there is so much info out there now. My main concern is people falling down the camera gear rabbit hole. Thanks for commenting! :)
It's a bit of a meme at this point, but the saying: "gear doesn't matter" holds true. I get SOOO many comments on my videos asking about what camera to buy, or what lens to buy. We all care SO much about gear that it's easy to forget the things that actually matter.
Hi Anthony! Love your channel and I think you are the highest sub count to comment here! Your videos remind me of the good ol days of photography channels! :)
Great perspective. It's not the tool, it's the artist that makes things happen. I absolutely hate it when someone says " Your camera is awesome!" Will the right tool help you get the shot, yeah, but you have to quantify that tool or rent it for that job.
I love to buy used gear from those people :)
Loved this video man! I think every photographer has had this same realization at some point. TH-cam is hard for sure, but like Peter said in his response, when you bring your own flavor to it, it’s priceless.
On the slip side though, it is GOOD that youtube has injected new life into the camera market which really was dying a slow death. We can be thankful that we still have a healthy competition from manufacturers and even have a NEW player (Sony).
That’s the perfect picture of the moment
I can relate to this a bit - however.. Someone else becoming successful in your field doesn't mean there isn't space for others, it means that it's possible to become successful in that field.. If someone has a channel on a specific niche - it does provide value to cover new products being released in that niche. In fact - when some new product comes out.. I WANT to see peter's take on it, sponsored or not..
I was heavily inspired by these guys when I started but I work in the music studio world. If someone does a video that moves people - it isn't because of the product, it's because of the creator, and the storytelling, and presentation. The product is the feature. Having the same products as someone you admire unfortunately does not make you as "good" or even "similar" to them. It just means you have the same tools, now what you do with them is what makes you unique.
I get a little bored when people have this perspective of, why are you promoting stuff everyone doesn't need.. Because no one needs any of this stuff.. hello.. We are creative people and it's fun to try and cover new and interesting things that are relevant to your work.
When you work hard and companies in your field want you to to showcase their new product that's a sign of accomplishment and they think you will bring value to their company by working with them. It's not the creator saying you need this in order to be me.. lol. I've never seen any of those creators say anything even close to that. If you don't want to watch a video on a product.. don't click the video.. but if you like a creator.. and are curious.. watch it to support their success.. and use it as inspiration for your own journey.
I like your channel! So the assumption that people aren't working hard enough is not necessarily the case. Some folks work a full time job and then spend their days off working as a photographer or videographer or doing TH-cam. When creators only make a video when a new product comes out and all of them review the same product it's because they got paid for it.
So the entire video is a commercial. We started with these creators because we loved their passion.
I understand you have found a niche in the music business but not everyone will share in that success. But I by no means would tell them they are not trying enough or that they aren't good enough to make it! There are a lot of variables to the situation. Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation! Much appreciated! :)
Great reminder - I have to constantly remind myself to "use what I've already got," as you put it, and that everyone we admire had some kind of messy beginning.
Great video mate. Not sure why or how this came in my feed but yeah i feel exactly the same. Casey was my go-to but there was always something and still is about Peter McKinnon too.
I notice it in setups and backdrops like yours too, I can spot a fellow fan a mile off and you see many channels with incredible video quality, super cinematic etc that just dont do well for god knows what reason. Thats why i was always and still am drawn to Casey and Van Neistat, its about the story rather than the incredible cinematics.
I was always amazed by these guys videos as well. Seeing how much time that went into the production value of their videos was kinda intimidating once you get into it yourself.
Great video Lane, think you nailed it. I really hate how the whole internet is just a huge selling machine, and most TH-cam videos are just click bait to get views, but often don’t have anything to do with what their title says. I am in my 70s, worked for one company for 30 years in video production and photography, and feel successful and lucky to have done that, and still do freelance gigs quite a bit. I love what I do, make a bit of cash here and there, don’t have a YT channel and don’t give a crap if I ever do.
That's quite a career!! As soon as the sponsor segment starts, I click off the video!
Dude. This was awesome. Watched from start to finish. As is it's description simplicity.
Thank you sir! 😊
Word dude. You said what I've been thinking about years. I've never got into what McKinnon does because there is zero content for somebody that wants to get ideas for cinematic content and to learn new techniques. The constant coffee drinking intro with oversimplification of the need of equipment and the loud attitude pushed me off of that kind of YTbers. I'd just wish this video would get more views.
Some great points here. I don't mind the ads, because I know this is their living. Some creators integrate ads well while others not so much. Then again many of the people paying creators for ads are very specific.
But I am with you in the fact that so much of this content has made me think I need this camera and that camera and this light and in reality I jjust need to hit UPLOAD more.
Subscribed, excited to see where you take this.
Those websites like story blocks or epidemic sounds etc. Are how these guys make extra money. The only difference is that a commercial on tv, pays the network. The youtube marketing pays the creator. Its a business.
I also want to point out as I was also like you at one point. I love what these guys were doing. The issue isnt that you need the gear and all of that. Its that you need a personality. Pete is energetic and upbeat and it makes people watching feel good. Which also lends into they buying of products they are selling.
I am not downplaying your statements. Only adding my thoughts on them. Create for the love it. Be authentic and hope for the best. Becoming a "content creator" and being successful at it, is just as hard as trying to play video games for a living. You need the charisma and energy for it. Going to sub to your channel. I like what you did with this.
I loved your video. I am one of those who "grew up" watching all these spectacular TH-camrs, since their beginnings. And I have a similar reading: they started (like thousands) as one more, but different factors, including perseverance and some good decisions, helped them stand out and eventually become spokespersons for all these brands. But of course it is up to you to be able to understand what is really necessary to do the job (if you are a photographer or videographer) and what is superfluous or unnecessary...or at least dispensable.
If someone goes crazy and goes bankrupt buying things, it's not their fault... but yours.
The truth can hurt but it can also set you free... it's your choice. Great video. Really felt that
"Nobody used to buy that stuff back in the day" - People doing studio photography and videography certainly did... lol
This was on point ☝️. 100%
I think I'm going to take out my NEX 3N and dusty manual Minolta's, Helios, etc and take some nice pictures this summer. I had an A7 in my basket, and decided to skip it, had A7r II in my basket as it was supposed to be a game changer for my landscape photography (99% of my stuff), then I had A7r III in my basket... Never went for it in the end... Realised I like my photos just the way they are, I'm not making money off my photography, I do it for the joy of it. Going out there, pressing that shutter button and feeling good about it. The end result or a picture is not even that important, I have seen it, I was there at that exact moment, framed and edited in my brain, CLICK. What happens after is less important... It's like hunters, they go for a hunt, cooks take care of what happens next.
Subscribed.
From the beginning I was able to keep my TH-cam and my photography separate (I am a commercial photographer by trade). When it came to TH-cam I have always posted what I wanted and purely for the enjoyment of making videos. I had some success but never sold my soul, I took a very few hand picked sponsorships over the years. I still enjoy making videos on topics I find interesting. Your video is spot on, the constant sell sell sell showed down our throats has gotten so annoying! I believe when it comes down to, do TH-cam because of the passion, if you love the process, the filming the writing etc, not because you want to be famous. The rest will come naturally! I don’t think any of them (Pete, Mattie, Chris, etc) planned to be famous, I think they were truly passionate about what they shared, they also had a unique support system within the group, which was something that probably helped a bit too.
This was a great video - you made some great points, and it was cool to see that Peter reached out to you - he seems like a genuinely nice dude. I agree with him that there is plenty of room out there for new voices, and the gear doesn't matter - before YT, I remember hearing filmmakers talk about that. Keep making videos, you're doing great. The world needs the best version of you that there is. Cheers.
Peter really is a great guy and it meant a lot to get that message from him! Thanks!! :)
Great message. Just get out there and create what you want. Also, I really like your lighting setup.
Thanks brother!! Neewer CB200B & MS60B & GBYOUND-Parabolic Softbox 35inch...Discount code in the description! Just Kidding :)
Didn't know how much I needed to hear this, thank you.
🙂
The biggest thing is none of the guys you mentioned actually got big on youtube doing photography... They got big showing you camera gear and tips on how to use your camera gear which is now pretty common knowledge. There are plenty of successful photography and videography channels but those don't do nearly as well in comparison to the "content creator" niche with all the next latest greatest gear reviews etc. They just show off gear in an appealing way ie travel, outdoors, exciting action adventure... etc! Now that these high end cameras are a dime a dozen and the new baseline for TH-cam quality there's nothing lavish about them and that big desire to know what's next has dramatically died down. Hence why people like Matti Haapoja got off the platform... they are beating a dying horse with those videos now. Peter McKinnon went film, half those other guys are all about their TH-cam courses now. It was largely an era brought on by the advancement in tech and there will be another wave of it eventually but it wont hit as big as that last one did!
The important message from this is to come to this platform and make what YOU want to make. That's the only way it's got any longevity ❤
This is facts. I started a camera channel, but realized that I wasn't adding anything to the space and I definitely didn't want to keep buying or renting gear for comparisons. The best thing to do is use your excellent camera skills for a more untapped niche in TH-cam.
Right on!! 😊
Right on, thank you for this great reality check. I love the message and advice.
The “one more this , one more that” is called GAS “Gear Acquisition Syndrome”.
Funny too how I read that these companies also don’t really care if they get a bad review, that people will still buy their product, and having their MERCH being talked about (in the ALGORITHM) is way more important than whether the review is bad or not :…..)
Lane you hit on many things here that small channels (our channel included) need to hear. Your gear should be simple, economical, the bare essentials to create cinematic video and audio. We started with a massive setup but quickly re realized in the field that stuff was too much. Sold the Nikon, went back to iPhone, SmallRig cage, some ND filters, BlackMagic camera app, and DJI wireless mic. Throw in Insta 360 Pro Ace for run and gun, and that’s it. Cannot stress enough the importance of good audio. Thank you for this video. New sub for you. Keep it simple, and like Casey said - the best camera is the one you have with you. Cheers!
Lane, great video. I know TH-camrs need to make money and understand the advertising, but I don't trust the "paid" gear reviews anymore. I was so consumed by Casey's Daily Vlogs 9-10 years ago. I thought I had found my calling but instead I found my hobby, Photography and Videography. For me its more fun as a hobby than a job. New Sub - Thanks Chris
Thanks Chris! Check out Peters new video. Reminds me of the old stuff!
Great video and makes a lot of sense. I feel that they are now brands and that’s how they treat themselves and their channels and there is nothing wrong with that. It’s just that for anyone getting influenced by them needs to understand that you do not need all that they promote to get to where they are. What one needs to get to their level is the motivation with which they have turned up day after day and year after year to put out content. Again like you said even doing that you might still not make it but that’s just part of it.
For me putting up content consistently on my channel is a creative outlet and nothing more.
Wait! All of this is probably great content for my next vlog haha.
I have a similar mindset and I have been talking to some friends about this recently. The youtube camera market is SO saturated and has become nothing more than sponsored videos. Although many of the big name camera channels are backed by very talented individuals, their channels have become nothing more than sponsored video after sponsored video, For example at the time of leaving this comment the last 3 videos Peter Mckinnnon has put out have been sponsored. Like you mentioned, its hard to say "no" to money BUT it seems like we only see these guys show up anymore if they are selling something. I miss the art,
I agree...which makes me think is photography about the art or the money. Thanks
I agree with some of what you said, yes the market when PM, Chris Hau, and the like entered the scene is entirely different than today. The barrier for entry was lower because camera quality wasn't as ubiquitous as it is now, that's fair.
BUT They were also making really valuable content. Tutorials, travel vlogs, and gear reviews are all things that helped US get into this hobby and make better videos than they did at the start. Nowadays you'll see that a lot of the videos they make have switched to a sort of mini-documentary style or more focus on their personal perspective. That's come from a response to the ubiquity of the camera market.
People can still break out in YT, it just looks different than it did 10 years ago, and there is an even greater importance on sharing a unique voice with a unique perspective.
As far as ads and collabs, you took a somewhat... for lack of a better term, "conspiratorial" approach? But it seems pretty obvious that ads pay for their lifestyle, and act as their income source. And collabs early on definitely just seemed genuine. Now I see the PM collabs as honest exposure opportunities for the smaller creators Peter talks to! How many people are suddenly aware of new film photographers from his latest vids?! It's awesome!
I saw Pete DMd you on Insta, and I hope that you do keep making stuff too. This just seemed a little "down in the dumps" to me. I recommend revisiting why you started here :) And then focus on THAT and rediscover that joy of just making stuff.
I enjoyed this immensely. I also wanted to do this, but I suck at vlogging or putting myself on TH-cam. I am pretty great at helping my local businesses succeed with their marketing video needs. So thats what makes me a living. Peter inspired me to do just that, turned me right around from a time where I almost gave up my camera for good.
Good job Lane. You never know whos going to watch that could catapult the channel to new heights. Keep posting...
Great video! I think a lot of smaller youtubers can relate to this!! Subscribed👍
Thanks bud! I can say I have found some really great smaller channels through this comment section! Subscribed to your channel as well!
Straight up.... Honest. Respect. Subscribed
Great insight and knowledge ! A lot of folks get caught up with the hopes and hype of being able to repeat the success of their favorite idolized TH-camr. But sadly, TH-cam these days comes to pure luck in being found and your content being distributed. Almost 5 years and I’m finally starting to see tangible growth. Bottom line, do it to share you passion and creativity. Whatever comes from that, will be ok and just fine. Thank you for this video !
You are soooooooo right, these guys become selling machines, they are only poster boy now.
I can understand where you are coming from, I started my youtube channel less than a year ago, I have been following peter for over 5 years now and I have been a photographer for over 8 years now, so I do intentionally or unintentionally try to replicate a lot of his style into what I do. But taking a inspiration from someone else and then moulding it into something of your own is what I think is the beauty of this artform really is. I am happy to be a part of it. The video was really good! 😊
No idea how this came across my home page. But I like the message. I’m of the mindset of, post here for fun and as a creative outlet. If money comes from it, so be it, if not then oh well. You earned my sub my dude.
Thank you for making this vid bro. I appreciate it, defo helped with giving me food for thought. On a personal note, I was thinking of upgrading my camera from the canon 550D to something like an R10 just for better features and sensors
Looks like a great camera!
Hey Lane! This video intrigued me at first and as I continued watching I agreed with your points more and more. Also your setup looks amazing, I would like to know what brand/model your mic is, and totally think you should create a product review on it soon!
Thank you! :) It's the Shure MV7 mic with a Shure SM7B pop filter. They also have a MV7X which cost just a bit more. I will definitely do a product review on it soon!
I’ll die at my hospital management job unfortunately and got into it a little late but make enough money to have decent gear and pto to travel is nice. I found a few channels that gives me inspiration grainydays is one of my favorites enough to dip my toes in the film game. This video is great, glad you popped up on my feed. Everyone pushing that new new or saying “you wouldn’t believe this lens I bought for $____.99.”
This is a great video man! Keep going!
It comes down to finding your niche, doing the work and enjoying the process.
All of this is solid intel. Thank you for being willing to say too. I have been down all these roads and you are 100% right.
I needed this. Thank you
Its interesting that we want to be like other people and we forget that we should want to be like ourselves.
Interesting reflection, Lane. Enjoyed the video ;)
As someone who has Gear Acquisition Syndrome…. I needed to hear this! Great content! Subbed🎉
Even though I have some pretty expensive equipment (I do photography for a living)... most of my TH-cam videos will have some bits and pieces shot with my phone... content is king. Authentic content is king. You're right. The "photo video TH-camr" thing seems a bit saturated and I am bored to tears by most of them, as it is all rehashing the same stuff, all kind of the same style, lighting setups etc etc. All VERY professional, but very very few will notice a TH-cam video being shot with a Cooke lens, as opposed to one shot with a Canon M50 and a kit lens. As long as the audio is clean and audible, the 32 bit flow really only impresses the one using it and hearing it back uncompressed on their studio monitors. The moment it hits TH-cams aggressive compression... and people watching it on phones, tablets and laptop screen and speakers... it's all a bit excessive. It is awesome USING great gear, but it is not necessary. Unless your video genre is that of Potato Jet etc that has to have the latest, because that is what you are talking about mostly.
Glad I stumbled upon this video, I remember discovering Peter's channel just as he was celebrating 200k subs and watching a lot of people say " Gear doesn't matter!, just start recording!" but as time went on and they get bigger and bigger you feel more and more left behind like what is even the point look how much far ahead they are? my life is not that interesting, I don't go on "adventures" worth filming!
And the gear part I still agree with, you absolutely can start with just a smartphone still, I just think it's gotten harder and harder to find people that look like they really are doing it for the love of it instead of chasing the views, likes, subs and sponsorships. I shoot photos every day and post NONE of them just because of the anxiety that comes from thinking about reach, followers, growing, etc. I guess as long as you stay true to yourself and an audience finds you genuine, you have a real shot at "making it" otherwise the people see right through it and you'll never get past the gates of algorithm heaven.😂
God, i miss good ol' Pete.
Innovation is the heartbeat of progress, and it manifests in various forms, including how we engage with content creators like Peter McKinnon or any other photographer on platforms like TH-cam. The beauty lies in the diversity of perspectives; for some, these creators serve as sources of inspiration and entertainment, while for others, they represent invaluable mentors providing lessons in photography techniques and skills.
It's important to recognize that while these creators may showcase and endorse various gadgets and equipment, their primary aim is often to share knowledge and spark creativity rather than to push sales. Ultimately, the decision to invest in the tools they endorse rests with the individual viewer.
Each of us approaches these platforms with unique intentions and objectives. Some may seek entertainment and escapism, while others may view it as an educational resource to enhance their craft. Regardless of our motivations, the responsibility lies with us to discern how we engage with the content and apply it to our own lives and pursuits.
It's unfair to place blame on TH-camrs for influencing our trajectory in photography or shaping our artistic styles. Instead, we should embrace the abundance of resources available to us, while also exercising critical thinking and autonomy in our consumption of content. By doing so, we can harness the power of innovation and creativity to chart our own unique paths in the world of photography.
Peters last three videos were shot on a Pocket 3. Gear doesn't matter.
It is a hard journey to be on, iv struggled with my channel, but i love my journeys / adventures. i had thought about starting a new channel from scratch but probably not really worth it. I hope you grow on yours :) thank you for sharing.
Love your channel! Subscribed
@@LaneLGibsonEntertainment Thanks man! very kind, right back at you! :)
Cracking video man, really well spoken, shot and edited. You had something really interesting to talk about there and made great points. Your only 20 videos in man.....just the start of your journey. Keep up that quality and you will be motoring on real soon!
I find it interesting how a photographer films and edits a video to then talk about his photos as he is a photographer yet does more filming then photos
Genuinely hope for you this video blows up and gets you going. Came out of nowhere for me in Maastricht, Netherlands. Me simply commenting probably helps too. There’s a good message in your video, stick to your principles✌️
This guy… just deserves a follow 🎉 man. The way you got the common section fired up is amazing.
I subscribed just off the mic sound alone but color grade and and content i also enjoy 🙏🏽
Thank you for saying this, I was a huge fan of Pete early on but when it became a constant flow of unattainable product marketing I fell off because I was able to recognize it right away, everything I watched became so perfectly polished because everyone was copying the successful guys like Pete and Matti, that it just got stale for me, not to take anything away from them they’re talented individuals but they just became so disconnected and I no longer felt like I could relate.
Truly I tell you, Lane, you will not become like Peter McKinnon. But you can be the reason photographers want to become.
never ever wanted to be like any of those guys , respectfully. the majority of them lack soul. they all look the same and the work isn’t timeless. there’s just something that’s always missing with the work most of them do. Cartier -Bresson used the same camera and 50mm focus length for over 50 years and those guys will try to persuade people to buy this and buy that and aren’t even close to the magic he produced ! instant sub
This 100%. I went down this rabbit hole for years until I finally bought a 1934 Leica iii and 5cm Elmar 'kit' lens for 2 000kr and used it and used it until I finally mastered it. Probably the best 6 months of schooling I've ever had, from cutting the film leader to working out how to focus with a tiny secondary viewfinder.
You know why Bresson used the 50mm?
@@OneTap__ He mentioned in a documentary that he felt it was the closest focal length to what the human eye saw. He was also heavily influenced by Impressionism, so having the ability to separate the subject from the background without too much distortion was close to what he envisaged.
I love this video. Super real and straight to the point.
That’s nice common sense, thanks for it. I also think that those guys pop up with motivation and perfect you tube timing, which seems nearly not possible now.
Great points! Keep creating man, great video! Subbed!
Thanks for your honest advice man!
Well you got yourself into a bind with this one :) It’s your most popular video but it’s not in your wheelhouse. I’ve been there. Just roll with it. It was entertaining but I think if you pursue something and put 110% into it, it’ll happen.
I never wanted to be exactly like him, selling coffee and stuff, but I did watch his videos to learn his cinematic skills.
I've had the same thoughts for a while now! Very good video! Greets from germany :)
The reality distortion field of TH-cam is insane. The algorithm demands spectacle and trends, and in turn that’s what gets delivered to most viewers, and the cycle continues. I love photography, but mostly loathe photography TH-cam for exactly the reasons you’re talking about. The best photography channels I do watch, and the only reason it’s worth it to make videos here are doing something that they love or making videos they enjoy making; not just chasing the next big spectacle or the hottest new gear. The grind of this platform just isn’t worth it otherwise.
Subbed.. just started my TH-cam channel doing what I love with what I have.. and loving it.. great chat!! 🇿🇦👍
I'd love to have that microphone :D lol Great video, thanks.
It got recommended to me.. probably because I just discovered Benn Jordan's videos and watched one on how much companies are paying popular TH-camrs to "lie" - do 90 second ad reads, say that they love playing Raid Shadow Legends etc... Well, a lot!
Interesting, do you have a link to that vid?
@@LaneLGibsonEntertainment Of course! th-cam.com/video/40Q7usuG2Cw/w-d-xo.html
The situation might be even worse in the music tech world, with an infinite amount of gadgets, software, plugins etc. you could buy.
What do you think about putting affiliate links in your description, for equipment you bought, use and would recommend? It might be a slippery slope, I don't know!
I guess you’ll have to keep making more cool vids like this one!
I started my TH-cam channel in 2018 in the photography niche and have 45k subscribers because of a very niche topic that I fell into, even though my videos themselves weren't exactly cinematic. But if I was to start over, I would absolutely NOT do another photography channel. The barrier to entry is so high - the quality of videos in this niche is insane, and I just don't have the time or skills to outperform all of those existing creators. Even someone who's a great photographer isn't necessarily a great TH-cam video-maker. I mean, to make THAT quality of videos means I'd have to do nothing else... I wouldn't even have time to practice my actual craft anymore.
What I would say to other photographers who want to be TH-camrs is to use your photography skills to start a channel based on a totally different interest. I have a gardening channel that I barely put much effort into, but grew SO much quicker and makes about the same in AdSense as the photography channel.
Love your channel! You have really great information on your channel and congratulations on its success. I think photographers really benefit from channels like yours because your not selling anything other than photography. I would love to reach your level of success in actual photography and TH-cam! I'd recommend people with this vid of yours: th-cam.com/video/IvoSuujpzLw/w-d-xo.html
Nice advice and well said. You do you 😊
fair play and totally fair POV. Just be you and enjoy the ride, and have fun! :)
The struggle is real, if you didn't manage to get a sponsor in the early stage you properly not going to make it anyway
Great vid! Keep it up.
This is one of the first times I’ve heard such common sense from someone on the creative side of TH-cam. I’m 25 and have been freelancing since 19. I learned these lessons the hard way.
Even though I learned most from McKinnon & Co back then.
What I do enjoy from
Those creators is the fact that they deliver information in a fun/entertaining show-like way. It is enjoyable to watch and great to learn from. But when it comes to gear… take it with a grain of salt. If you can’t do it with a 400€/$ or so camera, you won’t be able to do it with a 2000€/$ + camera.
Excellent video, thank you.
I think the emphasis will move away from technology and move towards unique and creative concepts and authentic creators...... there are a LOT of peter mckinnon duplicates out there... If you've got something new to share and empower your viewers... it can work. But the space is changing and evolving INCREDIBLY fast... so it's definitely more difficult. Althought... solid props on pronouncing Matti's name so well... I cannot do that. My only suggestion is find a niche space... Good luck. You make many points I concur with... keep doing what you do...as long as you enjoy it... if you enjoy it... keep it up... #subscribed...
Thank you!! :)
My long hair from 2018 nods in agreement.
This video fucking broke my heart, just the title itself already made me feel weak.
Like is said in the book 'Think And Grow Rick' by Napoleon Hill: 1. A burning desire 2. Idea 3. Specialised Knowledge and 4. Imagination. I do agree that TH-cam and the big hitters have changed but still, If we consider all of those you mentioned in the video and compare them to those 4 points mentioned previously, they tick all 4 . I think if you stick to the basics you'll win in the end. If not you'll have had a heap load of fun doing what you did along the way and will have probably pushed yourself far outside of the everyday comfort zone. We all come into this game via inspirational characters but the ones that want to carve their own path soon realise that it isn't about what you buy, its about what you put in. Stay creative and keep on keeping on 💪!
Ngl, Peter inspired me and still does to this day
It all comes to that: Do you have anything special to offer, or not. Being a TH-camr is not for everybody and that is OK.
lol...OK
I always see them as vaccum sales men that used to knock on doors but now they don't wear a suit. I haven't bought a new camera since 5 years and use it today on well paying jobs it's only 4k not 6 not 12 and 3 new generations of it exist but still use what I have and clients are happy with my results because gear isn't everything. These youtubers do what they do but most are single no kids no responsibility so they got time. They demonstrate things in their own house where they plan that one video for weeks to make it look so perfect where in reality you hired a location and you can only afford 3 hours to shoot including packing up so there's no time to test your lighting or composition there's not even time to pull out a giant softbox they brag about itll make your shot cinematic
well done! do what you love and love what you do, the rest can just stay on the bench!
Enjoyed the vid...i have a bit of a different opinion and the product stuff, never bothered. me. I've been following all of the same guys since Casey's Vlog. Wanted to go hard at one point....just enjoyed the content in the end. I have bought gear, don't regret most of it, I'm still trying to figure out my fit here if any, but life meets us all at different spots. I still think there is opportunity. It's a different hustle maybe, or maybe it's just making truly honest vids like this. It's all a journey and looking forward to seeing where it all goes and hopefully I can ride that wave when the time is right! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! (kinda wish I woulda went hard back then....but family and responsibilities were different...I have a couple years on you all...no regrets) ;-)
Good video. Great ideas.
Ur videos r great man 👏🏻
It’s a good call. You can get a cheap camera and lens second hand and get great quality without any lights etc. probably add a cheap microphone to improve audio. But’s what’s even more important is having a good story to tell or saying something that people want to hear. All the “quality” and gear is useless if the content of the video is boring
room for everbody anything is possible ....
Nothing wrong with being inspired by them, but yea agree that replicating success exactly like another person can be difficult, if not unlikely. Gotta carve out your own path.