Hot Headed Meat Eater SNAPS at Vegan (Fiery Debate)

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  • @JoeyCarbstrong
    @JoeyCarbstrong  2 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    Man, that got crazy. Did you watch till the end?
    *If I helped influence you to be vegan, please leave a comment below.*
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    • @tarionp
      @tarionp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      👏👏👏

    • @tashaax1993xanimalloverx
      @tashaax1993xanimalloverx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Your videos changed me aligned my actions with my morals glad I came across these videos it made me become an activist myself

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Your approach helped me confirm that veganism was indeed for me.

    • @susanb9400
      @susanb9400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Hi Joey. You influenced me to become vegan almost 3 years ago, and I joined challenge 22 through your link. Keep up the good work. ❤

    • @distermaer
      @distermaer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You didn't change me because I had changed before I knew you (I think we've been vegan for about the same years), but you'd obviously change my mind if I met you before I changed.
      Keep doing what you're doing Joey, keep strong! ❤

  • @TiagoSalemaG
    @TiagoSalemaG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Did I hear correctly that she hates vegans because vegans say facts? Wtf

  • @justanotherguy12
    @justanotherguy12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    She calls you extreme because she’s got an extremely guilty conscience. Her saying your aggressiveness doesn’t work is a sign of extreme self-preservation and deflection at its finest. Classic guilty carnist

    • @Trolloftruth
      @Trolloftruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @redbriarn6295
      @redbriarn6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When he tried to speak over her , she deflected the barrage of criticism by insisting her stance on global food security

    • @perihelion7445
      @perihelion7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Delivery, tone and interjection play a part, the extreme part comes from that, she is smiling and jovial and Joey at times is the opposite, I'm not saying that Joey is an extremist, he's not, but he is a bit extreme at times.
      And your argument is from a position of moral authority, she's just critiquing while you call it deflection and guilt.

    • @justanotherguy12
      @justanotherguy12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@perihelion7445 upload a video on to do it “correctly” would love to learn from you

    • @perihelion7445
      @perihelion7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justanotherguy12
      The onus isn't on me to change their method of debate, it's on the person putting forth the initial debate.
      One can critique said person and that person either takes that constructive criticism onboard or they do not.

  • @matt4735
    @matt4735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I was already vegan when I started watching you, but you're one of the biggest reasons I became an activist. Thank you Joey

    • @speedingatheist
      @speedingatheist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't care that you're vegan. Just don't stand in the road like a suicidal muppet.

    • @tttyn2237
      @tttyn2237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah you should also stop using everything that made of out woods. Its killing the environment . I guarantee you that you dont give a sh*t.

    • @edwardsedwards796
      @edwardsedwards796 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why I can't see the two comments?

    • @TheMrmatthewparker
      @TheMrmatthewparker ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@edwardsedwards796 they were probably full of expletives from narrow-minded meat-eaters offended that their selfish way of life is threatened

    • @edwardsedwards796
      @edwardsedwards796 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMrmatthewparker Sorry, I m with the meat eaters. That's why I wanted to see all the comments.

  • @simonnaylor3536
    @simonnaylor3536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    My wife and I are both vegan because of Joey. Wish we had heard his message sooner. We were never offered or called him aggressive. What happens to animals is extreme and aggressive. There is no need or justification for eating animals.

    • @Unmasking_Viandalisme
      @Unmasking_Viandalisme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      .. apart from nutrition. I almost "went vegan" (Mar '19) but did a little, basic research & went from WF very low animal/plant ratio to WF moderate animal/plant ratio. Much greater sense of well-being resulted. Unlike you, I must be an omnivore!🤔

    • @x-latetv-x6816
      @x-latetv-x6816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Unmasking_Viandalisme same omnivore diet suits me better, eating plants all day upsets my stomach

    • @absolutezeromusicofficial
      @absolutezeromusicofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Unmasking_Viandalisme Okay well your anecdote doesn't debunk the American Dietetic Association's conclusion that plant-based diets are suitable for all stages of life

    • @Unmasking_Viandalisme
      @Unmasking_Viandalisme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@absolutezeromusicofficial That conclusion is from the 2016 Position Paper (veg. diets), which expired on 31st Dec 2021. Officially, they currently haven't an opinion & it never stated that such was suitable for EVERYONE for all stages of life. Furthermore, unavoidable supplementation renders a "vegan" diet deficient.

    • @LiverpoolxC
      @LiverpoolxC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Unmasking_Viandalisme The shock when you find out that 67% of the US population takes supplements (lower band estimate) and 92% of Americans have AT LEAST 1 nutrient deficiency. Why the hell are upwards of 80% of Americans taking supplements if their diet of meat & dairy is so complete?!
      Vegans tend to be a lot healthier than your typical American or European, as shown in numerous studies comparing diets & life expectancy. Funnily enough diets full of saturated fat and animal cholesterol tend to result in numerous health issues at later stages in life.

  • @tinyjungle_
    @tinyjungle_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    This woman clearly was arguing in bad faith and deserves a gold medal for projection. Every time you made a valid logically consistent point she called you an extremist. Anyone who defends the defenseless and clearly and logically points out why you shouldn't be harming the defenseless is an extremist. Got it!

    • @evilsbrother8247
      @evilsbrother8247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What valid logical points had joey made?

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Abolitionists were considered extreme, but they were right! Reducing slavery, or treating slaves a little better can not be ethically justified, and neither can paying people to needlessly kill innocent, sentient beings for a brief taste pleasure.

    • @evilsbrother8247
      @evilsbrother8247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@someguy2135 food is so much more than just 'a BriEf taSTe pLeaSurE' what a simpletons way of thinking about food.
      'Abolitionists' are people who spoke out specifically against human slavery. Sheep and chickens arent humans and they arent slaves. Unless of course you refuse to distinguish between your own family and a pack of rats.
      Joey and Co are cancel cult. They tried to ban bikinis, they failed. Then it was rocknroll, another fail. Certain books... Guess what happened.. yup, failed again.
      Now its animal ag. What are the odds they will succeed? Not great at all my friend, not great at all.
      And fun fact... there are more slaves in the world now than there has ever been. Cope.

    • @tinyjungle_
      @tinyjungle_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@evilsbrother8247 as your big brother I could hold your hand and guide you. But as your much wiser, more intelligent and much better looking big brother I see more value in you figuring some things out for yourself.

    • @evilsbrother8247
      @evilsbrother8247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tinyjungle_ i reckon youre just a fkwit.

  • @tashaax1993xanimalloverx
    @tashaax1993xanimalloverx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    One of the most idiotic responses you've had so far she's deflecting so bad she's coming across crazy and pretty evil smirking and laughing through out everything you were talking about

  • @angelatillman4323
    @angelatillman4323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I am vegan because of YOU! Thank you

  • @Masilya111
    @Masilya111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Her favorite word is extreme. There's nothing extreme in her behavior though "I will never stop eating meat because of taste". No consideration for the victims. Defending animals however, very extreme. Being vegan = extreme. Directly funding animal torture every day = not extreme. It's not extreme because most of us do this 🧠. She's a very good manipulator.

  • @py16667
    @py16667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    You said it, no matter how “aggressive” or polite you are, in the end, she couldn’t care less about animal cruelty. You’re preaching compassion & the person defending murder who keeps cutting you off thinks you’re “aggressive” lol. The most cognitive dissonant are the most blind to their own insane beliefs

    • @tornelysian
      @tornelysian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You said it alot more polite and succinct than I was going to say. Thankyou. THIS ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ and unfortunately this kind of human is billions strong 😔

    • @jayz8839
      @jayz8839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And your type of human is 1000’s weak, but feel you have the right to dictate the 99% majority’s lives and commit T acts because you can’t win with democracy.

    • @carolyncarnahan960
      @carolyncarnahan960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone please answer this: exactly how is the woman defending murder when talking about eating meat? Murder is killing people for no reason. Slaughter is killing livestock for specific reasons

    • @py16667
      @py16667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carolyncarnahan960 Why do you think “murder” fits only one black & white definition? Murder is also defined as unjustified killing, or needless killing, or premeditated killing. It’s most widely defined as killing a “person” & person widely defined as an individual, not strictly human. Many people have “reasons” for killing others, still not justified in most cases & it would be murder. If there was someone who went on a spree killing puppies & kittens, it’s semantics what specific label you’d prefer to give them, the unjustified killing would make them a murderer

    • @carolyncarnahan960
      @carolyncarnahan960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@py16667 please answer this with a response: exactly how is slaughtering livestock needlessly killing them? We need meat and clothing material and no not every omnivorous person is going to eat a plant based diet cuz since mock meat fish eggs and dairy products at best only look and taste like real meat fish eggs and dairy products why would omnivorous people want to eat it?

  • @Infanateknowledge
    @Infanateknowledge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    You turned me vegan overnight joey, once i saw what i was doing, i changed.

    • @Infanateknowledge
      @Infanateknowledge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rondarkman. thats a really clever comment, well done.

    • @Infanateknowledge
      @Infanateknowledge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rondarkman. no need to thank me, thank the heart disease you will probably die from.

  • @bradley3140
    @bradley3140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    You and Gary’s blunt upfront truths about what I paid for made me vegan 4 years ago. Thank you and keep doing what you’re doing.

    • @jesuismanu
      @jesuismanu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same!

    • @crazyferretlady
      @crazyferretlady 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was raised to believe eating meat was necessary and right (b. 1955) but in 2013 I went vegan overnight after watching Earthlings, Conspiracy and Gary Yourofski's Great speech. Never looked back and cried for weeks thinking of all the animals that died to feed me..

    • @loumason6120
      @loumason6120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crazyferretlady WOW that's awesome you just inspired me to do the same

    • @crazyferretlady
      @crazyferretlady 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loumason6120
      If you're honest about that, I'm happy for you.. 👍

  • @samanthasanchez5125
    @samanthasanchez5125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    She’s so uncomfortable she turns to joking 🙃 good job Joey - almost four years vegan 🌱

    • @redbriarn6295
      @redbriarn6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m sorry to inform you that you don’t represent the majority of the people who are affected by agricultural products

    • @Julie31596
      @Julie31596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redbriarn6295 I don't understand?

    • @redbriarn6295
      @redbriarn6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Julie31596 because you are not interested in understanding the global food security

    • @Stevelives13
      @Stevelives13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes very bizarre whooping and cheering whenever she gets owned on a point.

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Uncomfortable"? Or psychotic?

  • @karenjones3501
    @karenjones3501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Joey you are not extreme or aggressive, you are passionate 💚

  • @michaelenns8872
    @michaelenns8872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Oh wow, at the end she even had the audacity to tell him how to do activism properly.
    My god, she herself consumes animal products three times a day. Man, I definitely want to learn from such a person how to do activism properly.

    • @suzannevegancultleader8509
      @suzannevegancultleader8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We get this all the time!

    • @wolfwonderess
      @wolfwonderess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I always love when people tell me how to do activism. Like…bro, I AM vegan, I know what worked on me to turn me vegan. I always tell them to tell me what would work on them to make them go vegan, and that I will tell them what they tell me verbatim, yet they never want to go vegan. :P Yet they insist their methods will work? Why should I believe that when your own method isn’t even working on YOU, you silly meathead?

  • @Decultified
    @Decultified 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Watching Joey turned me vegan 6 years ago and I have never felt better.

    • @andrewhenderson7858
      @andrewhenderson7858 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You feel good because you're eating your own body fat and cells, it gives a euphoric and high feeling. Vegans tend to quit when the body starts eating the organs. It was one woman who's gotten to her brain and she fed her baby weeds from the backyard in the form of a smoothie.

    • @gerardojaviergonzalezbrena5801
      @gerardojaviergonzalezbrena5801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but you were never in hers shoes. You saw him attack others, not you. BTW, i like much more how he is aproaching it now, before he was violent, im happy for him

  • @distermaer
    @distermaer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    She's a good example of someone that uses words without any understanding of what they mean, making them just empty words when they come out of her mouth.

  • @muhammadabedin3711
    @muhammadabedin3711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Thank you Joey, I changed due to your videos. I come from a Muslim background that uses the “halal” work around to justify the killing. I am now considered extreme but more at peace with myself

    • @JoeyCarbstrong
      @JoeyCarbstrong  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Bless you brother

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, you're considered extreme cuz you try to enforce your diet on others and you don't see it

    • @batabata3239
      @batabata3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn you are enforcing your diet on the animals

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@batabata3239 and? They're fucking livestock, idc. They're for food to me

    • @batabata3239
      @batabata3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn i know, the point is vegans didnt force their diet on you, you are doing it to others

  • @LiverpoolxC
    @LiverpoolxC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I became vegan because of your content Joey... mostly by watching the way animals are treated in factory farms, how these animals are innocent and educating myself about the processes in animal agriculture. And of course, realising that being vegan is healthy, sustainable, delicious and easy.

    • @36ELRIC
      @36ELRIC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@corbinm9874 He just said he educated himself. The industry stinks

  • @lucindabreeding
    @lucindabreeding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Vegan daughter of a dad who raises grass fed beef cattle.
    These animals aren't treated any different than factory-farmed cattle. They are taken to feedlots and slaughtered the same way factory-farmed cattle are slaughtered. The bull calves are castrated the same way. They suffer when they are weaned.
    Romanticize grass fed beef cattle if you must. But they aren't treated like pets, and they die the same way factory farmed beef cattle do.

  • @gustavdestroyer5539
    @gustavdestroyer5539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    This was probably one of the most painful ones to watch, pure ignorance, not even a glimpse of willingness to have an honest debate

    • @ricthe-v7462
      @ricthe-v7462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      100% agree

    • @Brotkanzler
      @Brotkanzler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm so with you, I can't fully watch it, unfortunately. what a horrible woman.

    • @gustavdestroyer5539
      @gustavdestroyer5539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Her f*cking smile also the whole time

    • @VerdantJedi
      @VerdantJedi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's not just ignorance, it's cognitive dissonance...

    • @carolyncarnahan960
      @carolyncarnahan960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Brotkanzler please answer this with a response: exactly how is the woman in the above video horrible?

  • @cloro1238
    @cloro1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    I hate when carnists smile and laugh all the way through, like it’s funny. What an infuriating woman 🙄. You helped me go Vegan. Keep going Joey 👏🏼

    • @py16667
      @py16667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corbinm9874 I’m laughing bc you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with Joey lol, you keep coming back to comment & never make an argument, just come off as a triggered little snowflake, that’s also reality 😂😂

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@corbinm9874 fr lmao

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It is funny, because we get to eat delicious meat and you don't

    • @cloro1238
      @cloro1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn I can eat whatever I like, I just choose not to be selfish cunt.

    • @cloro1238
      @cloro1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@corbinm9874 Carnists literally live in a fairytale.

  • @soundstormdubai
    @soundstormdubai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Thank you Joey for the thousands of humans you helped becoming Vegan 🌱

  • @2merel2
    @2merel2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Well, I became vegan after being confronted the aggressive way by vegans. Or in her eyes 'extreme vegans'. She is just not educated enough on animal cruelty and environmental issues.

  • @nobloodnotears6880
    @nobloodnotears6880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It was listening to your debates that ultimately made me vegan .. it took me two years of watching your arguments to finally watch dominion & earthlings…. Then I went vegan overnight

    • @aquajem1
      @aquajem1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, I had just become vegan when I saw Dominion at veg fest in London, certainly reinforced everything I’d learned. I’d been veggie over 30 years, what I waste of time I now feel that was😢 @joeycarbstrong my youngest son became vegan because he found you! 💚

  • @allbutterflapjack
    @allbutterflapjack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Thank you Joey, for the record you were a huge part in my journey to veganism… just in case she is checking the comments!

  • @NoName-fd6bi
    @NoName-fd6bi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    Joey you had spoken to a lot of good hearted non vegans but this lady is just horrible cold hearted, selfish and ignorant. I feel sorry for her lack of empathy. My sister went vegan because of your words : "I don't think that a cow deserves that we take her baby away just so we can eat cheese." She get that instantly and became vegan

    • @StenUustalu
      @StenUustalu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Her brain is full of animal hormones which are making her act that way. I hope one day science and human psychology will do studies on how the brain works in relation to eating meat (red meat especially)

    • @CainDefendsAnimals
      @CainDefendsAnimals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember that video 💯💯💯 th-cam.com/video/UxGIQGKTaNo/w-d-xo.html

    • @perihelion7445
      @perihelion7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you pro-choice or pro-life?

    • @CainDefendsAnimals
      @CainDefendsAnimals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@perihelion7445 irrelevant.

    • @perihelion7445
      @perihelion7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CainDefendsAnimals
      Subjectively to you it is, objectively it's not.

  • @kantoros
    @kantoros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    11:58 I remember when I thought the same. "To eat a cow but not a dog/cat is hypocritical, therefore I should be okay with eating a dog/cat". Then I realized how *fucking psychopatic* that line of thinking is. Became a vegan maybe 1 month later.

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because I see cows as food, not dogs

    • @kantoros
      @kantoros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn Then my question to you is: What makes a cow food, but not a dog?

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kantoros because of their purpose. I see livestock as food, but dogs were not bred for food. People eat dogs in China, but I kinda don't care

    • @richardham4169
      @richardham4169 ปีที่แล้ว

      i live sometimes in manado. google the market there. dogs cats rats all animals on sale. i love satay dog sticks. tasty

    • @kal.el123
      @kal.el123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What if someone sees poc as slaves, not people? Valid? This isn't logic, it just speaks to your subjective, illogical biases.@@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn

  • @utubechops
    @utubechops 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    “They have to produce avocados because it’s the new hot thing with milliennials”
    “Do you eat avocados?”
    “I do” 😂😂
    If you don’t laugh, you’ll cry ffs

  • @cindy652
    @cindy652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I got tired just listening to her. Actually, she wore me out. It's interesting how the people who are aggressive and extreme are usually the ones who accuse vegans of being aggressive and extremist.

    • @flyingfig12
      @flyingfig12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Projection was on full height with her.

    • @planetofthevegans880
      @planetofthevegans880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      She was incredibly annoying - loud and aggressive.

    • @chuckybang
      @chuckybang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I enjoyed listening to her. She was trying so hard to justify eating meat. You could tell she was thinking hard about it. I did the same thing long ago and eventually it changed my mind.

    • @agnesmach2485
      @agnesmach2485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get tired of his rhetoric, it’s always the same....you can’t change pple overnight. She has an excellent point....

    • @cindy652
      @cindy652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@agnesmach2485 if you want to sympathize with her, that's your prerogative. She can take her sweet time and decide if she will be vegan or not, but I feel very proud of Joey for not compromising and staying focused on who the real victims are here. We will NEVER forget the victims, NEVER!

  • @derekprieur5258
    @derekprieur5258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    People who care about animals don’t “reduce” the amount they hurt animals. They stop entirely.
    Keep up the great work Joey 🌱

    • @redpillpusher
      @redpillpusher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      well I don't think that it can be summed up or reduced as such so easily. for better or for worse the human animal mind has certain mechanisms that need to be tackled within the conversation of veganism ....things like bais, compartmentalization, cognitive dissonance, etc. all of which contribute to strongly held beliefs, culture and traditions that define communities to whole societal structures.

    • @ryanmichaelangelofavale5863
      @ryanmichaelangelofavale5863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mate, you're brilliant

    • @lxnkzi1266
      @lxnkzi1266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope they do reduce it, stopping entirely isn’t possible. Animals get killed in the harvesting of plant products and get killed to protect crops etc by paying for plant foods or products you’re creating a supply and demand, farmers wouldn’t be harvesting or protecting crops from animals if you didn’t pay them etc. you also will kill bugs if you drive a car, you will also accidentally step on ants. reducing the amount is the only possibility entirely eliminating it isn’t possible.

    • @kozarozmata6016
      @kozarozmata6016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lxnkzi1266 shhh dont burst his bubble of being delusionally cruelty free

    • @derekprieur5258
      @derekprieur5258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lxnkzi1266 plant based lifestyle is by far the most ethical we have at the moment (obviously I’m aware small animals & bugs die during farming crops for humans and many more die for the animals you eat). Farming can get better over time and I will continue to support the ethical practices as PRACTICALLY possible. This does not mean I’m going to stop walking outside to save bugs

  • @tarionp
    @tarionp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    That was sooo intense. You composed yourself amazingly. The poor animals, I hope others have more compassion for them than she did ☹️ good job joeyyy!🙏♥️

  • @hinx8288
    @hinx8288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    5 years ago I came across your channel Joey and have been vegan ever since in fact my whole family of 7 went vegan. We thank you for your dedication to the animals Joey and keep fighting.

  • @MarkLumsley
    @MarkLumsley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Interestingly, she mentions that "it's YOUR job to convince ME to become vegan."
    Yet here is Joey explaining every viable reason why, and she still says that she won't stop, but only reduce. :/
    More proof that meat is valued for nothing more than taste and texture, and less for nutrition.

    • @evilsotherbrother7481
      @evilsotherbrother7481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no data in existance that states meat isnt nutritious nor is there any data that states humans must not eat meat. Unless you get your data from cancel culture parasites like peta and the simps who hang off ever word.
      Youre a gamer. Stick to what you know. Health and nutrition isnt it.

    • @braveintofuture
      @braveintofuture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He could have pointed out she needs to take responsibility for her own actions

    • @evilsotherbrother7481
      @evilsotherbrother7481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@braveintofuture youre a fraud and hypocrite you need to take responsibility for being a pathological liar, then seek mental health advice.

    • @redbriarn6295
      @redbriarn6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She pointed out that she was from from a part of the global trade system that was more dependent upon exports of food products and imports textiles

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We still value meat for nutrition

  • @jackieboyle1851
    @jackieboyle1851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The moment she tried to put the blame on you was the moment she realised she had lost the argument. There was nowhere else for her to go so she made it your fault. 😄

  • @blondey3261
    @blondey3261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Funny thing is this is Joey at his calmest. Way to go Joey, that took a lot of patience.

  • @shauniepotter5562
    @shauniepotter5562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I'm vegan because I watched one of your videos a year ago. Keep up the good work 🌱

  • @Drowno
    @Drowno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It's because of your hard hitting approach to share the disgusting truth of the industry as well as Ed's way of shedding light that made me vegan. Count me towards your followers

    • @kasroa
      @kasroa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly the same for me. It was the no nonsense approach that got my attention, listening to logic and reason and people like Joey who don't shy away from the facts. People who try to police Joey's tone are just deflecting, they cant argue against the facts so they complain about his tone instead. And when they say his approach doesn't work, well that is demonstrably false. There has been some research (see Sam Harris) that shows that being exposed to facts that conflict with your world view can induce strong feelings similar to disgust, which explains why people find it so difficult to change their mind even in the face of pretty straightforward facts.

    • @leo-r7
      @leo-r7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same for me as well!

    • @Empathy4Animals411
      @Empathy4Animals411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kasroa Sam Harris is a very poor example - he's a vivisectionist. If you don't know what that is, it's someone who tortures and kills animals in laboratories to get a degree in "neuroscience."

  • @ferg492
    @ferg492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    You couldn't get a word in, she talked your ears off. I didn't see any aggression on your part. You can't tell people like her anything, they know everything 😱

    • @serafimb2319
      @serafimb2319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's just not true, this simply wasn't a beautiful discussion. Both talked over each other, barely listened, and only filtered out what they wanted to hear.
      I've grown to like Joey more over the years, but patience was never his strong suit.

    • @TenTempeh
      @TenTempeh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@serafimb2319 I would argue this lady was not prone to debate at any moment. Joey just had someone who thought she was entering in a pro-meat debate. That's not the kind of receptive mindset appropriate to debate on this matter. It reflected on her being disrespectful, disregarding his arguments, calling him extremist... How could he not be impatient.

  • @rescuerhonda0164
    @rescuerhonda0164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I stopped eating meat in 1991, but didn't know about the egg and dairy industries until 3 years ago. I watched Gary's Best Speech Ever and Dominion, and I went vegan on the spot. As most vegans, my biggest regret is not knowing sooner.

  • @stephanschulz9610
    @stephanschulz9610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Your "extreme approach" made me go vegan two and a half years ago. 🌱 And I wish that someone had told me the truth about the consequences of my actions earlier. She, on the other hand, wishes that vegans never say what's really going on. I think these are the type of people we will never convince, because they simply don't care about animals.

  • @MrGifty44
    @MrGifty44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    You, Alex O'connor, and Sonia Faruqi (Project Animal Farm) made me face reality. Been vegan for nearly 2 years! Keep up the good work!

    • @TheVeganFinalBoss
      @TheVeganFinalBoss ปีที่แล้ว

      shame that alex has renounced his morals isn't it

  • @morganyoungisplayingdrums
    @morganyoungisplayingdrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    These are the types of imbeciles that I feel Joey wastes his intelligence on. They simply want to debate him just to have a simple conflict. In this clip, the woman is so entrenched in the death that she eats that she is beyond the point of no return. What more can I say other than, another well-done clip from Joey.

    • @TXRhody
      @TXRhody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It's not a waste if the viewers see her as unreasonable and reflect on their own attitudes.

    • @zarelli7831
      @zarelli7831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She went toe to toe with him! What were you watching lol

    • @Trolloftruth
      @Trolloftruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TXRhody viewers see these videos and talk to others...and both laugh at the vegan idiots while eating anumal products. ..true story

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zarelli7831 she is smarter than that clown

    • @justicericketts2912
      @justicericketts2912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GarudaLegends you should rewatch, i am clueless how you came to that conclusion.

  • @veronicakhuttan6151
    @veronicakhuttan6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Wow! I hope one day she will see, just how much suffering her actions are causing! Great Debate Joey! I have been vegan for a year and a half from watching your videos and will never go back!

  • @af6756
    @af6756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think she said at least 10 times that Joey was being aggressive while yelling and grinning in his face all throughout this debate...WTF

  • @rob.simbulis
    @rob.simbulis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I was also one of those people that said "I won't go vegan, I couldn't live without cheese" (whilst attending 'cheese fest' in Birmingham)
    Fortunately I realised its actually not oxygen and I can actually live quite happily without it.
    (not taking into account all the lovely 'cheese' I make myself... long live the cashew)

  • @gangsta891
    @gangsta891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Joey changed me to vegan and yes it was instant.

  • @helensimmonds6668
    @helensimmonds6668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Just wow….. your advocacy turned and keeps me Vegan Joey.
    That woman did my head in!! 🤯

  • @blakeREVOLUTION
    @blakeREVOLUTION 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    7 years ago when I researched and realised I can be perfectly healthy without eating meat that’s when I stopped.
    I quickly became aware of all the Environmental, Health and Moral positives of being Vegan, multiple influences including yourself Joey have helped me strengthen my beliefs.
    Thank you for all your hard work.
    Fellow Aussie.

  • @TheDeterminer
    @TheDeterminer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You made me turn vegan 1 year ago. Going vegan is the Best thing that I've ever done. I'm truly grateful that Joey just tells things how they are and doesn't hide the truth.

  • @reenapatel6812
    @reenapatel6812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was a vegan trapped in a meat eater's body for some time. You Joey swung it for me. I saw your videos, where I heard about Challenge22. I signed up to the July 2022 course and that gave me all the support, encouragement and guidance to go completely vegan in mind and body now. Don't be disheartened by such stubborn argumentative people trying to stop your good work. For every 1 person who you waste your time on there are tens that you make an impact on. Keep up the amazing work you do and thank you.

  • @roku3216
    @roku3216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    All this protein talk is making me want a rich and delicious dish of mung dal with rice and grilled peppers. Good talk, full of information.

  • @Jarv263
    @Jarv263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Some meat eaters say some stupid shit 🤦🏻‍♂️ stop tip toeing around and just say you’re selfish and don’t care, own in. She keeps saying vegans shout but I hope she looks back at how she behaved during this.

  • @claudiaruella7636
    @claudiaruella7636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Joey, I became vegan 3 years ago and it has been, by far, the best conscious choice of my life. It's thanks to people like you and Ed that I managed to open my eyes at such a young age (I was 19). Since I've done a lot of inner work on myself, I can tell how unconscious and uncomfortable she feels with herself, because I used to do and say the same exact things. Deep inside she knows that what she says doesn't make any logical sense, but she is resisting it soooo badly, she doesn't want to listen to it, therefore she starts acting like a spoiled child that wants to take revenge on someone, trying to make you feel like you are in the wrong position. She is scared of the truth, and she keeps going in circles trying to jump from an argument to another to cover herself and find an excuse. I profoundly admire how devoted you are, your passion and drive for what you're doing, and how brilliantly you recognize patterns, trying to bring her back to the topic. There is something that I've learned by analizing and studying history, and I don't think that most people realize it: in order to bring change to society, we need people who are willing to risk their lives (that got murdered, burnt and tortured for example - which still happens nowadays - because they went against the "common belief") and reputation, that are not afraid to step up and let others hear their voice, challenging the ordinary. Someday, one of my goals is to be part of such an awesome team by helping spread true information and BE THE CHANGE BY ACTING. That's what I've discovered to be my life purpose, and I would have never been able to realize this if not for you, I was about to head towards a completely different direction that didn't resonate with me at all. So thank you Joey, for triggering something inside of me and making me kick my own ass, only true courageous people are ready to do such work. You are such an amazing and inspiring soul, we keep supporting you. Sending lots of love and kindness ❤️

    • @shawndarling5855
      @shawndarling5855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Veganism has changed my life as well but not for the better. My wife and I have two fifteen year old boys. I am self employed in the hunting and sport fishing industry. And I figured that it was time for them to start working.
      Well their science teacher is a vegan activist. She debated and shamed them right in front of the whole class. She uses her classroom for spreading her beliefs.
      My boys did become vegan and so did my wife. She quit working for me and started working in a office. She started an affair with a vegan there. The boys went with her I am thankful for prenuptial agreements since started an affair with someone else she gets nothing but child support.
      All this got going when our boys ask me how could I live with ourselves knowing that everything we have is paid for with the blood of innocent animals? They did have a good point.
      I mean they have cell phones,. Computers in their room,. Tvs, Xboxes,. So I realized that so I took away every luxury item that they had.
      My boys now are cut out of my will since they don't want anything to do with me until I turn vegan. Plus no self respecting vegan would take assets from such an industry

    • @amefibrasil6058
      @amefibrasil6058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ethics can move mountains!

  • @brandoonjen2975
    @brandoonjen2975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You did not convince me to go vegan, I've gotta give that credit to Earthling Ed. You did however solidify my stance in veganism, and help me get into the mindset needed to never even consider going back, and for that I'm very grateful. Thank you for all of the hard work you do.

  • @TheLoyalpain
    @TheLoyalpain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "Shame on you for not eating the tortured flesh of a chicken"
    🙄

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She doesn't care if he eats meat or not. But he gets pressed when we eat chicken lol.

    • @cynicalidealist11
      @cynicalidealist11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn Well yeah, because it’s unethical, obviously. You’re slitting a sentient beings throat against its will.
      Would you not get pressed if someone else abused a child? You probably would, because it’s unethical.

    • @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn
      @Iwanttoblowmybrainsoutrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cynicalidealist11 yeah, I care more about a human child than some damn livestock that I eat. The cows and chickens are for food

  • @josephinegilbertan1476
    @josephinegilbertan1476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Already vegan when I started watching you but you definitely inspire me to continue the journey on those hard days!

    • @josephinegilbertan1476
      @josephinegilbertan1476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also, why do people always bring up his past? We all have a past, I'm definitely not proud of a lot of mine! Like move on!

    • @ipconfigearth102
      @ipconfigearth102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@josephinegilbertan1476 Exactly - that is the real strawman!!

  • @MarkLumsley
    @MarkLumsley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    She's clearly not taking this debate very seriously, and it's really annoying! xD

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      because vegans are all clowns.

    • @suzannevegancultleader8509
      @suzannevegancultleader8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes it's a big joke to her

    • @Trolloftruth
      @Trolloftruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who TF does take vegan debates seriously?? I watch them for my humor

    • @annoyingbutmorallyconsistent
      @annoyingbutmorallyconsistent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Trolloftruth You really don't have anything better to do other than argue that animals should be abused and killed for no reason?

    • @Trolloftruth
      @Trolloftruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent animals ARE killed for a reason...MANY MANY REASONS...all justified and all will continue
      No argument needed

  • @mattpastro3247
    @mattpastro3247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Never seen anyone destroy Joey’s arguments with “aggressive arguments”. They just appear very dumb or psychopathic.

    • @religionofpeace782
      @religionofpeace782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They don't just "appear" psychopathic they ARE one. They are already chewing dead body parts of animals!!

  • @AMileWithKyle
    @AMileWithKyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I went Vegan years ago after finding your channel. Thanks for everything!

  • @backcuetheoriginal
    @backcuetheoriginal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Yes another video from JC! You made mine and the animals days! Keep up the good work Joey!

  • @mcillustrator
    @mcillustrator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I guess empathy can't be taught. For some people, only if they are in the actual situation maybe they will realize what others are going through. Even then, they may never get it.

    • @suzannevegancultleader8509
      @suzannevegancultleader8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's so true. Unless it has a direct negative impact it falls on deaf ears

  • @jeyhunfazilov2060
    @jeyhunfazilov2060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You contributed to me switching to veganism 4 years ago Joey. Yours and Earthling Eds videos really made me commit to the lifestyle

  • @mattmaidment8083
    @mattmaidment8083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Influenced me, I was looking to counter the vegan argument a few years ago and it quickly dawned on me that you cannot agree with facts and logic. Keep going Joey 👍, you change my mind.

  • @arty-AN5690
    @arty-AN5690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As Hench Herbivore once said; "Turn yourself vegan first, then tell us how to turn others vegan". If someone is not vegan, then they're not part of this justice movement, so why is it of concern to them how effective our method of advocacy is? Doesn't really add up.

  • @archiephillips1010
    @archiephillips1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Three years ago I did the research and decided that on paper going vegan was the only ethical thing to do.
    Two years ago, it took people like Joey to kick me up the ass and provide the impetus to change - I became vegan overnight. The ‘process’ is just more excuses and kicking the can down the road. Anyone who actually cares about animals wouldn’t even consider merely reducing their meat intake - they would just stop.

  • @skyjackmorgan
    @skyjackmorgan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love when they tell you to be more agreeable. That's how American slavery ended: abolitionists just stopped being extreme and asked more nicely.

  • @LutherAEvans
    @LutherAEvans 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    She seems more extreme to me because she is fighting against the peaceful approach and for the continued suffering and killing of animals. She wanted to hear the message that reducing her meat intake is good enough, but the truth is that any amount of unnecessary violence towards animals in not okay.

  • @marijncat6711
    @marijncat6711 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely admire the way you don't back down at all from anyone. Be it police, people dropping dead fish corpses on your table, the dude in this video trying to ask about your prison past (what an asshole) and you not even being slightly intimidated whatsoever. If anything, I think your past has gotten you thicker skin and I love that you turned it around and used it to save animals. But that is just what I can see. Being confident, but also patient, and staying like that is one of the hardest things for me as an activist and I wish I was more like you. The animals appreciate what you do.

    • @soredon
      @soredon ปีที่แล้ว

      oh god someone did that?!?!? what a low blow ._. yet they’ll call us unreasonable…

  • @tanasaelena-daniela7786
    @tanasaelena-daniela7786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for your work! Your channel gives me hope, comfort and the tools to debate when the subject comes up, even though I’ll never have your patience 😊🤗

  • @Silzaress
    @Silzaress 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    She contradicted herself so much that it actually made my head hurt. Very ignorant person, I would not have talked to her for that long. What you said towards the end, was true in every word, Joey. And yes you've made thousands of people go vegan. People that are actually willing to listen and to question themselfes and their actions and who are not stubborn to change.

  • @TiagoSalemaG
    @TiagoSalemaG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    She became SO uncomfortable when you asked her what her morals were about the animals

  • @WhyArentYouVegan
    @WhyArentYouVegan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for speaking up for animals.

  • @adrianahamorova
    @adrianahamorova 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Exactly, she started to switch off the moment her consciousness started to knock on her heart's door... Scared to see the reality, to see the true problem of her choices... It's not the extreme vegans, it's her own fear... In her heart she knows all the answers to every question you asked, she is just scared to be honest with herself, scared of change ...

  • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
    @GoVeganForTheAnimal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for having a talk with her, it means a lot for the animmals even though it seemed not so great

  • @TiagoSalemaG
    @TiagoSalemaG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    - Your argument is a straw man.
    - Do you know what a straw man is?
    - Err, not really, I read it somewhere.

  • @sergiowestphal9731
    @sergiowestphal9731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    People cling so tightly to their eating habits and use all kinds of excuses and victimhood to avoid seeing the reality.

  • @drew2465
    @drew2465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    She was absolutely insufferable, i don't know how you can deal with those type of people. When meat eaters defend themselves It just sounds like a flat eather trying to explain their point, nothing they say will ever be correct.

  • @theloveleebaker
    @theloveleebaker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been vegan for 19 years and it still amazes me the ignorant things that come out of non vegans mouths. Thank you for all you do, Joey. ✌🏾❤️

  • @farahsummers1171
    @farahsummers1171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow!!! Highly frustrating & as ever yr patience is admirable. Keep doing what you do Joey as so many beautiful hearts/minds are open to the truth you consistently share. Much ❤ to you & T!

  • @Fred-hb7ob
    @Fred-hb7ob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You know its a good one when you cringe at just the intro

  • @treewitch666
    @treewitch666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    She’s learning words like “strawman” perhaps she can learn the word “gaslighting” because she was doing that a lot. She wouldn’t even let you speak lol

  • @Samuel_Giba
    @Samuel_Giba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Never understood the problem people have with supplements. If they are part of the diet then the diet is complete.

    • @Nadjasmin13
      @Nadjasmin13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because they are really stupid and to lazy to inform themselves about supplements. I guess they think supplements are synthetic..

  • @wesroberts2032
    @wesroberts2032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a painful watch. Thanks for what you do, Joey!

  • @modzsi
    @modzsi ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @manruption7565
    @manruption7565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If someone is willing to kill another living being that person is worth being hated and I have no shame in saying I hate stupid people.

    • @ipconfigearth102
      @ipconfigearth102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah....

    • @suzannevegancultleader8509
      @suzannevegancultleader8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So hard not to

    • @manruption7565
      @manruption7565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rondarkman. Good to know you lack compassion. You will now first hand how it feels when you meet someone who lacks it. Nature has a way of correcting itself.

    • @manruption7565
      @manruption7565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rondarkman. Nope not miserable at all. Only takes a miserable and sadist person to call a sentient being food. I suggest you buy a mirror. 😂

  • @BandeDaKhandaKhadkega
    @BandeDaKhandaKhadkega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thankyou Joey 💚💚💚, I was non-vegetarian for 18-19 years then I went vegetarian after seeing the cruelty. Luckily one day I clicked on the Joey Carbstrong's video and then started watching his other videos too one by one with an open mind not like this girl who just don't wanna listen and saying blah blah, then in a period of 2 days watching his videos I went vegan. Thankyou Joey 💚💚💚

  • @cheekiestclan5668
    @cheekiestclan5668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Vegan for 4 years myself, and now both parents and girlfriend all vegan because of your videos. The girl was dishonest and quite honestly morally disgusting, but a great chance for you to make a point on the channel that some people aren't ready to make the right decision. Keep at it!!

  • @rjbenson9621
    @rjbenson9621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went vegetarian a long long time ago, but only went vegan after watching your videos. Joey, your 'extreme' activism worked on me!

  • @tykosay
    @tykosay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've influenced me to go vegan! I've been vegetarian for 6 months and in the last two weeks I've made the shift to veganism. I just can't see any other way! Thanks Joey.

  • @TheDanza316
    @TheDanza316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Myself and many people I know have turned vegan due to, chiefly and predominately, your TH-cam channel, your incredible efforts to spread awareness and crucial attack on peoples’ cognitive dissonance. Keep up the great work, brother. VFTA 🌱

  • @lynby2108
    @lynby2108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Some people just have no empathy, simple as that

    • @MrBCB
      @MrBCB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have empathy, I eat meat.

    • @NoName-fd6bi
      @NoName-fd6bi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Watch Dominion on TH-cam and we will see if you really have empathy

    • @MrBCB
      @MrBCB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoName-fd6bi I have and I don't give 87 shits

    • @sellingCiriasajob
      @sellingCiriasajob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MrBCB So you don't have empathy. Atleast not for animals

    • @MrBCB
      @MrBCB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sellingCiriasajob I don't have empathy for animals, apart from pets.

  • @jackmichaelpeter
    @jackmichaelpeter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She’s very loud for someone who’s accusing someone else of shouting

  • @febrero-luv
    @febrero-luv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Meat eaters trying to convince vegans they know how to turn them vegan is the most annoying thing.

  • @rewananadar1547
    @rewananadar1547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I appreciate you for being patient when you were accused to be aggressive and extreme. I think the best way to end the conversation would be to say "please consider going vegan"
    Veganism is the best of what humanity could offer to everyone on Earth. Go Vegan🌱

  • @braveintofuture
    @braveintofuture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I believe just one single slaughterhouse video would change her opinion about what is extreme

    • @anthonyharris3193
      @anthonyharris3193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well said every one should not hide their head in the sand

  • @Kalvis1
    @Kalvis1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Joey, you made me go Vegan 3 years ago. Never looking back!

  • @Loncyrus
    @Loncyrus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ABSOLUTELY hate when nonvegans say that vegans are extreme and that “a little bit of effort isnt enough”… no it isnt. You shouldnt be “a little bit” of anything. A “little bit” racist, you’re still racist… any form of activism is activism and should be taken seriously. He may say she’s pleasant to be around but her smile is condescending and I disagree with her being a pleasant energy.

  • @WorldOfARandomVegan
    @WorldOfARandomVegan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rudeness of the idiot who walked by and brought up Joey's prison life. Like he said, he's open about it! We only know about his history because he's talked freely about it!

  • @anthonyleadbetter7557
    @anthonyleadbetter7557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You and big Earthling Ed, 100%
    You're not aggressive, people just don't like being confronted when it comes to their pleasures.
    Big love @joey, you inspire me