How do you indicate that you are looking for more than a air traffic control style conversation? I am awkward on air and usually unsure of what to say, but just getting a signal report and bye does not do it for me. Okay maybe sometimes that is fine but I am trying to get better at conversation. I would think you could have a list of topics for go to during a QSO. For example: equipment, location, weather, retired or working, job, own or rent, spouse or kids, pets etc and just go down the list so you don't stumble. I just don't know how to tell if the person on the other side wants a in and out kind of thing or an extended QSO. I've had my General since field day and am learning. I listen a lot but want to talk more. I also have not had any luck calling CQ. No one answers. I know my signal is going a long way because I can respond to CQ just about anywhere that I can hear.
Or get their call sign and file a fcc complaint. You might be in a situation where you have a radio capable of recording and can even forward on their bad behavior.
Being new to this, I find it difficult that some operators say their callsign as if it was just one word, gluing all words (Alfa, Bravo, etc) as one word, know what I mean? They found a way to say their call really quickly, but for HF DX I think those operators who say their callsigns slowly fare much better. What do you think?
It's simple. No need to take it so seriously. : ) Be happy that when the day comes that your ready for you first "Pile-up" your in a place that gets pile-ups : ) Radio is supposed to be fun! Cheers 🍻 To your 1st Pile-Up !!
Thr unfortunate thing is there are alot of very rude ham veterans out there that have a superiority complex and feel that have a sense of entitlement. I have answered or tried to break by calling out my call sign- and immediately have had hams (usually much older) get all pissy and rude rather than showing a sense of proper ham etiquette.
Dude, my local club has a website. So me as a new guy learning for the license exam wanted some help. I went to their page and to contact menu. Only callsigns. Nothing but callsigns. That made me angry as hell.
Adding to contesting one thing that still annoys me is people not using the phonetic alphabet during their calling. Everyone wants to get onto the next contact before they finish the current one. Yes the idea is to make as many contacts a possible but if you have to keep repeating your call sign all the time then obviously you are not being clearly heard so I say to these people. Slow it down a little bit and use the phonetic alphabet (not this France, Uncle, Sugar shit) and just see how much faster you get the contact in the log. Not everyone out there has super hearing. I know I'm one of them with dreadful hearing so spare a thought for those who can't hear well and make your CQ calls clearer for everyone to understand.
When I answered a couple of CQ contest calls this morning , they replied then ask me for my number , I’m new to general class HF so I just politely told him I have no idea what you’re talking about so he told me I was number 1 ,, everyone else he answered he rattled off a 3 digit number for them , what in the Sam Hell was he talking about ?
Depends on the contest. During the contest you would give a spesific exchange, normally an RS followed by something.....it could be Alpha, Bravo etc, or state/province abbreviation or.....in your case, a serial number starting from 001. So your first exchange with him you would give him 59-001 , 58-002 for your next contact and so on. He would give you 59-150 meaning you are the 150th station he has contacted during the contest......
I completely avoid all contesting, not that I think anything is wrong with it I just like to chat a bit, so I stay out of their way so they can do their thing.
The ones the gripe me are the multiple word phonetic crowd. First it’s Whiskey November Tango. Next it’s Wyoming Nancy Tokyo. Just pick one set people!
Well there is a International Phonetic Alphabet and then there are are alternatives for some to understand better on air - common in contests. For instance Lima is replaced with a London or Alpha/America. Usually hear Japan stations using alternatives too presumably due to English barrier
M0MCX made an interesting comment.....he uses the international standard, but IF and only IF the station he is working struggles with one of the letters, he will use a phonetic that might be different (eg Sugar in stead of Sierra). I can see how that could jolt a tired mind to the correct letter, but as a rule, stick to the international standard
Hey mate, QRZ is from the Q-code, mainly was used in CW, but adopted into voice. QRZ means "who is calling me". www.arrl.org/files/file/Get%20on%20the%20Air/Comm%20w%20Other%20Hams-Q%20Signals.pdf
@@HamRadioDX I know this is a old thread but I hear people say QRZ after everything they say. I don't get it does not seem to go with what is going on. I get it when people are managing a pileup but that also doesn't meet that definition of the term. It's more I'm done with this guy so pile up again.
Why do people say '...calling CQ on 40m'? I hear it a lot, e.g. 'CQ 20 CQ 20 CQ 20 metre band'. Is it just convention, or is there a good reason to do it?
(as said above to another commenter,) I understand its a throwback to the days of homebrew equipment giving of harmonics! so if your calling "CQ Forty Meters" but also being heard on 20m someone could get in touch and let you know your generating unwanted harmonic transmissions, It would also prevent them trying to call you back on the band where they are receiving you but will never hear your attempt to contact them. 73, Tom.
Back in the early days of ham radio, you would the harmonic multiples of one frequency for different bands. There was a possibility of transmitting on more than band at a time.
When calling CQ, why would you include the frequency ie 40 meters, if some one answers you, they will know that they are on 40 meters. That seems like unneeded infor.
You need to say something because listeners will be finding you on their waterfall, or as they scan, so some of the transmission s just filler so your not just creating dead air. Band may not be the best info, but it is related to your calling CQ. In some cases a shack may have more than one radio on, and thus the info may let them know which of their radios is receiving that call.
@@Siskiyous6 Im guessing it was a rhetorical question. Ive asked myself it many times and feel the same way. Duh, is what i think when i hear it. Same with giving your call then saying " for ID" What else is it for when no body asked?
@@HamRadioDX Ive learned to recognize the repeater drop tone, no need to hear what freq it is sense various drips, whistles and beeps make them all one of a kind.
I understand its a throwback to the days of homebrew equipment giving of harmonics! so if your calling "CQ Forty Meters" but also being heard on 20m someone could get in touch and let you know your generating unwanted harmonic transmissions, It would also prevent them trying to call you back on the band where they are receiving you but will never hear your attempt to contact them. 73, Tom.
Great Video!
I enjoy hearing "You're a 5 by 9 here in Brooklyn" on DMR...
:D
Asking 15 times for the callsign and then giving the 59 is good as well (that's what I experience a lot when working QRP) :D
I would suggest when an acronym is used putting the meaning on the screen.
Hello from Denmark oz1kai, hope to here you on the amatør band,
How do you indicate that you are looking for more than a air traffic control style conversation? I am awkward on air and usually unsure of what to say, but just getting a signal report and bye does not do it for me. Okay maybe sometimes that is fine but I am trying to get better at conversation. I would think you could have a list of topics for go to during a QSO. For example: equipment, location, weather, retired or working, job, own or rent, spouse or kids, pets etc and just go down the list so you don't stumble. I just don't know how to tell if the person on the other side wants a in and out kind of thing or an extended QSO. I've had my General since field day and am learning. I listen a lot but want to talk more. I also have not had any luck calling CQ. No one answers. I know my signal is going a long way because I can respond to CQ just about anywhere that I can hear.
If someone tells me to get lost being a new-be I going to go full blown cb radio on them.
Or get their call sign and file a fcc complaint. You might be in a situation where you have a radio capable of recording and can even forward on their bad behavior.
Full blown cb. 🤣🤣🤣
Ch 7 Brisbane On their ass
That's a big 10-4 there Good Buddy... You got your ears on? Any Smokies up your way? Breaker Breaker.. this is Newbee... Copy?
lol😂
I also give my name, so my order is RST, OP, QTH. though I work mostly CW. 73 de AI5DD
Nice Commodore's in the background
Check out TO's channel. He has a retro channel too that he does a lot of stuff on the Commodores too.
38911 BASIC BYTES FREE is burned into my memory.
Being new to this, I find it difficult that some operators say their callsign as if it was just one word, gluing all words (Alfa, Bravo, etc) as one word, know what I mean? They found a way to say their call really quickly, but for HF DX I think those operators who say their callsigns slowly fare much better. What do you think?
Those operators who blare out their callsign are very difficult to copy. They need to slow it down,
That's some good stuff right there
Top quality advice from that KM9G fella… not sure about that other guy from Wisconsin
Awesome advice as always
Great examples of how to call CQ… Thanks….
I've no problem with replying to a cq call BUT how do you get over the nerves of calling cq as the thought of getting my first pileup is frightening??
It's simple. No need to take it so seriously. : ) Be happy that when the day comes that your ready for you first "Pile-up" your in a place that gets pile-ups : ) Radio is supposed to be fun!
Cheers 🍻
To your 1st Pile-Up !!
Thr unfortunate thing is there are alot of very rude ham veterans out there that have a superiority complex and feel that have a sense of entitlement. I have answered or tried to break by calling out my call sign- and immediately have had hams (usually much older) get all pissy and rude rather than showing a sense of proper ham etiquette.
Yes sadly encouragement and a sense of excitement around newer hams sometimes is lacking from a select few. But over time we can fix that!
Dude, my local club has a website. So me as a new guy learning for the license exam wanted some help. I went to their page and to contact menu. Only callsigns. Nothing but callsigns. That made me angry as hell.
Adding to contesting one thing that still annoys me is people not using the phonetic alphabet during their calling. Everyone wants to get onto the next contact before they finish the current one. Yes the idea is to make as many contacts a possible but if you have to keep repeating your call sign all the time then obviously you are not being clearly heard so I say to these people. Slow it down a little bit and use the phonetic alphabet (not this France, Uncle, Sugar shit) and just see how much faster you get the contact in the log. Not everyone out there has super hearing. I know I'm one of them with dreadful hearing so spare a thought for those who can't hear well and make your CQ calls clearer for everyone to understand.
Is Romeo not the actual phonetic "R"?
@@flipster7285 Ah Yes it is. I only just realized my mistake now that you mentioned it. Thanks, I've since corrected it.
When I answered a couple of CQ contest calls this morning , they replied then ask me for my number , I’m new to general class HF so I just politely told him I have no idea what you’re talking about so he told me I was number 1 ,, everyone else he answered he rattled off a 3 digit number for them , what in the Sam Hell was he talking about ?
??? i want to know also.
Ya totally different. I rather hang on 11m LSB and be a pretend HAM. 😁
Depends on the contest. During the contest you would give a spesific exchange, normally an RS followed by something.....it could be Alpha, Bravo etc, or state/province abbreviation or.....in your case, a serial number starting from 001. So your first exchange with him you would give him 59-001 , 58-002 for your next contact and so on. He would give you 59-150 meaning you are the 150th station he has contacted during the contest......
I completely avoid all contesting, not that I think anything is wrong with it I just like to chat a bit, so I stay out of their way so they can do their thing.
Hey its that good looking guy from the youtubes, and that other guy.
lol
Both the guys!
Handy tips for us noobs. 👍
The ones the gripe me are the multiple word phonetic crowd.
First it’s Whiskey November Tango.
Next it’s Wyoming Nancy Tokyo.
Just pick one set people!
Well there is a International Phonetic Alphabet and then there are are alternatives for some to understand better on air - common in contests.
For instance Lima is replaced with a London or Alpha/America. Usually hear Japan stations using alternatives too presumably due to English barrier
M0MCX made an interesting comment.....he uses the international standard, but IF and only IF the station he is working struggles with one of the letters, he will use a phonetic that might be different (eg Sugar in stead of Sierra). I can see how that could jolt a tired mind to the correct letter, but as a rule, stick to the international standard
Newbie to HF, why is everyone saying QRZ, is this to let them know that’s the log there using??
Hey mate, QRZ is from the Q-code, mainly was used in CW, but adopted into voice. QRZ means "who is calling me".
www.arrl.org/files/file/Get%20on%20the%20Air/Comm%20w%20Other%20Hams-Q%20Signals.pdf
@@HamRadioDX I know this is a old thread but I hear people say QRZ after everything they say. I don't get it does not seem to go with what is going on. I get it when people are managing a pileup but that also doesn't meet that definition of the term. It's more I'm done with this guy so pile up again.
Why do people say '...calling CQ on 40m'? I hear it a lot, e.g. 'CQ 20 CQ 20 CQ 20 metre band'. Is it just convention, or is there a good reason to do it?
@@stargazer7644 makes a lot of sense-thanks!
(as said above to another commenter,) I understand its a throwback to the days of homebrew equipment giving of harmonics! so if your calling "CQ Forty Meters" but also being heard on 20m someone could get in touch and let you know your generating unwanted harmonic transmissions, It would also prevent them trying to call you back on the band where they are receiving you but will never hear your attempt to contact them. 73, Tom.
Back in the early days of ham radio, you would the harmonic multiples of one frequency for different bands. There was a possibility of transmitting on more than band at a time.
Contesters are people too! Or at least I thought they were...
I rarely call CQ, rather using "Seek You" instead. Very few people noticed the difference. :)
When calling CQ, why would you include the frequency ie 40 meters, if some one answers you, they will know that they are on 40 meters. That seems like unneeded infor.
You need to say something because listeners will be finding you on their waterfall, or as they scan, so some of the transmission s just filler so your not just creating dead air. Band may not be the best info, but it is related to your calling CQ. In some cases a shack may have more than one radio on, and thus the info may let them know which of their radios is receiving that call.
If you're calling on a repeater, I usually say the repeater callsign or the frequency. Folks might be scanning and not see what their radio stopped on
@@Siskiyous6 Im guessing it was a rhetorical question. Ive asked myself it many times and feel the same way. Duh, is what i think when i hear it. Same with giving your call then saying " for ID" What else is it for when no body asked?
@@HamRadioDX Ive learned to recognize the repeater drop tone, no need to hear what freq it is sense various drips, whistles and beeps make them all one of a kind.
I understand its a throwback to the days of homebrew equipment giving of harmonics! so if your calling "CQ Forty Meters" but also being heard on 20m someone could get in touch and let you know your generating unwanted harmonic transmissions, It would also prevent them trying to call you back on the band where they are receiving you but will never hear your attempt to contact them. 73, Tom.
Mant One
If he ask for your callsign again your not a 5 9. I think most have 5 9 stuck in their heads.
First comment haha ! 73 guys
Nice one!
Contest are very poor practice by Amateur Radio Operator. HF is for culture and the tourism exchange. Cq Contest that is childge .
Right…
HF is for ground wave (lower frequencies) and ionospheric propagation. What we do with that is up to the individual, within the terms of the license.