Appreciate the feedback . . . A bit behind the scenes. As you have seen, a number of us were at that event. There were 'workshops' throughout the design studio then the reveal of the car. Some were VR. Some were bespoke bits on a Maybach. One was event NFT (don't get me started). However, there was one with a brit talking about Arial Flux Motors. Now, if you have been watching this show for a while, I am not an EV fan boy nor a basher. I present the very hard and very difficult facts and ask the questions. With that in mind, I am all but two minutes into this guy's presentation and realize this is game changing. Yes, still have to deal with the big issues: Mining rights as it pertains to national security, Packaging, Chemical formulation, infrastructure and the grid . . . but what Yasa has created is a huge leap forward just waiting for the other bits to catch up.
@@MotoManTV i do believe we are on the same page regarding the EVs. I do not dislike it or anything, I just see there is a huge room for improvement starting from the materials used, the range, and so on... I do like innovative thinking however that are really pushing the envelope. That being said this tech is indeed game changing. It is like EV 2.0. Not too long ago this was sci-fi stuff - Lamborghini Terzo Millenio. I am almost certain that was the first concept car that had the EV engines in its wheels and back then I thought wow, what a great idea. I could be wrong, but talking from purely design or handling aspects this is a big step forward in the entire history of automobiles. It will basically change the very shape of what we essentially call a car today. Back in the day after the Miura (as the mid engine game changer), the proportions of a sportscar has been changed. And that was a big thing. When Issigonis did the Mini, or VW did the first Microbus, that was a big thing, too. This is even bigger. Imagine a design where you dont need a space for the engine...a C8 Stingray for ex...where you can put your luggage right behind the seats. The are new possibilities...and the proportions will change. Drastically.
Jason of Engineering Explained did a video several months ago talking about the tech of the axial flux motor and how it's integrated into McLaren's latest Artura. Worth watching!
Wow this flashes my eyes - Wow - it looks so good! It's pure attractiveness on wheels. The interior is over the top but it's not for use just for looks! Love it :))))) It's never gonna get into production but if it will look even close - great!!!! Mercedes bought YASA? Good! and will be in all future models, which is great. Now we need to solve the battery issue. Dry batteries, a fraction of the weight please.
Remember, this exercise was all about the motors. Those, you'll see in a production Mercedes that won't look like this - somewhere between 2025 and 2030.
There is a company that produces wheel mounted motors. I saw it a few years ago, they was hoping to go into the classics resto market, or hopefully selling licence to oems iirc. But they had working engines, as they were doing a conversation on the video.
10 years after Koenigsegg Regera... maaaaybe in production... Lucid has wicked power dense motors. Look at the ballrooms of space it freed up in their EQE sized sedan, with 30% bigger battery no less. Mercedes and packaging, eh?
Unsprung weight equals bad, more weight more bad also big wheels equals big weight equals bad more big more bad. So, the motors and brakes onboard/inboard and make wheels as big as needed not something idiotic like 23”.
Why waste time with the ugly concept car design when the original is so classy? MB should put the original into production. You don't need huge motors and batteries to get big performance when the car is lighter and smaller. It's probable that I am just stupid or ignorant of the facts, but it would seem to me that electric drivetrain should remove just about all practical packaging constraints designers and engineers have to consider. Just look at those two cars: which one do you want? Both those motors are so much smaller than a gas engine and accessories. I will never understand how there can be a nascent cottage industry for converting classic cars into EVs but automakers won't embrace this market demand. If the vehicle is just for fun and doesn't need 500 mile range, then why not just build new versions of old cars that people actually liked?
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Out of his mind - the interior is brilliant - modern, homage, clean - blows the houndstooth out of the proverbial water.
The best presentation of this technology to date. I’m not sure about the hounds-tooth but either beats black. 9:17
Thank you, Gary!
you are the only one who actually presented the real deal here. thank you
Appreciate the feedback . . . A bit behind the scenes. As you have seen, a number of us were at that event. There were 'workshops' throughout the design studio then the reveal of the car. Some were VR. Some were bespoke bits on a Maybach. One was event NFT (don't get me started). However, there was one with a brit talking about Arial Flux Motors. Now, if you have been watching this show for a while, I am not an EV fan boy nor a basher. I present the very hard and very difficult facts and ask the questions. With that in mind, I am all but two minutes into this guy's presentation and realize this is game changing. Yes, still have to deal with the big issues: Mining rights as it pertains to national security, Packaging, Chemical formulation, infrastructure and the grid . . . but what Yasa has created is a huge leap forward just waiting for the other bits to catch up.
@@MotoManTV i do believe we are on the same page regarding the EVs. I do not dislike it or anything, I just see there is a huge room for improvement starting from the materials used, the range, and so on... I do like innovative thinking however that are really pushing the envelope. That being said this tech is indeed game changing. It is like EV 2.0.
Not too long ago this was sci-fi stuff - Lamborghini Terzo Millenio. I am almost certain that was the first concept car that had the EV engines in its wheels and back then I thought wow, what a great idea. I could be wrong, but talking from purely design or handling aspects this is a big step forward in the entire history of automobiles. It will basically change the very shape of what we essentially call a car today. Back in the day after the Miura (as the mid engine game changer), the proportions of a sportscar has been changed. And that was a big thing. When Issigonis did the Mini, or VW did the first Microbus, that was a big thing, too. This is even bigger. Imagine a design where you dont need a space for the engine...a C8 Stingray for ex...where you can put your luggage right behind the seats. The are new possibilities...and the proportions will change. Drastically.
Jason of Engineering Explained did a video several months ago talking about the tech of the axial flux motor and how it's integrated into McLaren's latest Artura. Worth watching!
Wow this flashes my eyes - Wow - it looks so good! It's pure attractiveness on wheels. The interior is over the top but it's not for use just for looks! Love it :)))))
It's never gonna get into production but if it will look even close - great!!!! Mercedes bought YASA? Good! and will be in all future models, which is great. Now we need to solve the battery issue. Dry batteries, a fraction of the weight please.
I want my rotary engines inside! pls 😃
I will probably be too old to drive when these techs are generally available. What a shame!
Remember, this exercise was all about the motors. Those, you'll see in a production Mercedes that won't look like this - somewhere between 2025 and 2030.
There is a company that produces wheel mounted motors. I saw it a few years ago, they was hoping to go into the classics resto market, or hopefully selling licence to oems iirc. But they had working engines, as they were doing a conversation on the video.
why are wheel mounted motors better? Surely its increasing unsprung mass which is a bad thing?
@@OldSkoolUncleChris I was you replying to this thought about small motors. You are correct about unsprung weight.
Where would you find a surface flat enough to drive that V111around? A hockey rink after the Zamboni has smoothed it out? Are those wheels 23’s”?
in texas on the toll roads.late nite
Saving 38 Kg of weight on the motor is not the problem - the problem is the battery weight and density.
10 years after Koenigsegg Regera... maaaaybe in production...
Lucid has wicked power dense motors. Look at the ballrooms of space it freed up in their EQE sized sedan, with 30% bigger battery no less. Mercedes and packaging, eh?
Yasa motors were in Koenigsegg Regera years and years ago. They now just make their own.
“Motor in each wheel reduces unsprung weight”… no, it most certainly does not. If anything, it increases unsprung weight.
neat
Unsprung weight equals bad, more weight more bad also big wheels equals big weight equals bad more big more bad. So, the motors and brakes onboard/inboard and make wheels as big as needed not something idiotic like 23”.
Why does that remind of the DeLorean?
Door design
It only gets tougher for Elon from here.
Why waste time with the ugly concept car design when the original is so classy? MB should put the original into production. You don't need huge motors and batteries to get big performance when the car is lighter and smaller. It's probable that I am just stupid or ignorant of the facts, but it would seem to me that electric drivetrain should remove just about all practical packaging constraints designers and engineers have to consider. Just look at those two cars: which one do you want? Both those motors are so much smaller than a gas engine and accessories. I will never understand how there can be a nascent cottage industry for converting classic cars into EVs but automakers won't embrace this market demand. If the vehicle is just for fun and doesn't need 500 mile range, then why not just build new versions of old cars that people actually liked?
They're full of shyt and apparently they're not alone.
Oh wow another goofy EV concept with an electric motor like all other electric motors.... ZzZzZzzzzZzz. I'll be in my manual 911, thanks.