"It's as wet as a cow made of liquid" - LOL Great review. I love my 2019 Stinger GT2 AWD. It has loads of features (as you point out) and the 365HP twin-turbo keeps me from feeling inadequate next to Mustangs, Chargers and yes, Audis and BMWs (aka badge snobs). For the price, Kia knocked this one outta the park. I just hope they don't discontinue them in 2022 as the recent rumours have been saying. However, at this point they're still somewhat rare and uncommon on the road and elicit compliments from people in parking lots. I had a guy in a 'vette Stingray recently ask me a lot of questions about it in a parking lot.
Hi Tim, you did a great review on the Kia Stinger. I recently purchased a 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 here in the states and it is awesome! I noticed in your video that you said the Stinger's driving feel reminded you of the E39 BMW 5 series. As we know, Hyundai/Kia hired former BMW M boss Albert Biermann away from BMW. It's no secret that Albert developed the performance aspect for the Kia Stinger. BUT, Albert Biermann was also known for being "the man" behind the excellent E39 BMW M5.
I have a theory that Albert Biermann essentially developed the Kia Stinger based heavily off of his original E39 M5. That is to say, the Kia Stinger drives like a E39 BMW M5. Let's look at the engine power specs:
E39 BMW M5
394 HP @ 6600 369 lb/ft torque @ 3800
2022 Kia Stinger
368 HP @ 6000 376 lb/ft torque @ 1300
The E39 M5 has only 26 more horsepower than the Stinger. The Stinger has 7 more lb/ft of torque so the numbers are similar. The M5 has a heavy engine V8 while Stinger uses a twin turbo V6 so the 0 to 60 times are similar as well. I've always wanted to get a new M5, but didn't feel like spending over $100,000 USD. I feel like my Kia Stinger is giving me most, if not all of the performance of the original E39 M5, being that Albert Biermann was the man behind both of these cars. What do you think Tim? Does the Kia Stinger drive and feel like the E39 M5?
Excellent review and enjoyed it. I feel sorry for badge snobs as they don't know what they are missing out on by simply dismissing Kia. I did a lot of research and testing here in Oz before buying my top of the range Stinger GT last year, and when all things considered, such as driving experience, performance, standard equipment, warranty and price, this beats anything on the road. Value for money and bang for bucks, I am not sure what gets close to it here in Oz. Best car I have ever owned and driven and I have had some wonderful cars in the past, including a Merc, which was also great. Cheers from Oz.
Chris, totally agree. Got mine a year ago and it is a dream car. The German alternatives, specced similarly, are almost twice the price of the Stinger GT here in Oz.
@@greg882 Best car I have ever owned. The warranty is also a good selling point. Here in Australia, if I take it to the same dealer for servicing, the warranty extends for another 3 years.
Day in the life of a Stinger Owner: Every day I get compliments on my Black Kia AWD Stinger. Just today alone, my neighbor sees me driving out of my driveway and stops to compliment the look of the car. Then off to the carwash two guys there give me the thumps up. Then off to gas station to fill her up, the guy at the next gas pump says, damn that's a nice car, then as I pull out and get stuck at a traffic light a man drives his truck up next to me, rolls his window down and says I noticed your car, is a Maserati? I said it's a Kia and he couldn't believe it. He said the Maserati dealership is down the street and the Stinger looks like one. I was curious so I drove to the dealership and the Maserati salesmen comes out and says to me that's a great looking car. you have All this in the afternoon with my Stinger. Love it!!
I just bought mine a fews months ago for my very first car and I got the federation orange and I get a lot of compliments and it's funny to see their jaws drop when you say kia lol
I just bought the KIA Stinger GT 2023 (Elite) in Hungary. It was the best decision of my life. Rare, everybody looks at It, unique design, and you get everything in It.
This has looked like a proper sleeper from the day it was launched - still tempting today. Keep 'em coming BTW: your stuff nicely complements the likes of Henry, Harry and Комрад Миша (with his nutty 'ring vids) - a four course meal of motoring content.
I had the original version in 2018. Best car I've ever owned. It's a GT not a Sports car. I can't wait for an EV version... I'd trade my Polestar 2 in for it.
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff I traded it in for the Polestar 2 ... which is a good car. But as you know it has a slightly smaller boot and a firmer ride - I do miss the Stinger. I tried to explain to my Audi/BMW mates, their cars are like a grown up Greyhound ... where the Stinger was like a puppy wagging it's tails and just having fun. Yeah won't beat an Audi S5 or BMW 440 around a track, but on the normal roads I'd have more fun and be more comfortable on long motorway trips. But loving the EV life now ... don't miss petrol stations and apart from North Cost 500 trips with the lads, I don't do over 200 miles so it's perfect for us.
@@Gdank72 Agree with your comments about the Stinger. I did a comparison for an equivalent specced Audi and BMW compared to the Stinger here in Oz and they were approximately twice the price. Value for money is unbeatable for a great daily drive and a mesmerizing highway cruiser with the odd shot of pedal to the metal when safe and no police around. Goes like a rocket
This is one of the few cars we get cheaper here in Oz than the UK. The GT is £33,000 GBP ($60,000 AUD) here. Can't find a price for the GTS. Dont think we get it yet (if eva?). They hold their price reasonably well too. Pity as I wanted them to depreciate like an Audi brick and snap one up for a song. PS: An S5 (only comes in 6cyl 3.0L Turbo Petrol here) is £66,000 GBP ($120,000 AUD) so no comparison unfortunately.
We don't get the GTS only the GT here in Oz. Drive away price is approximately 68K for the top of the range GT.. The new model price has not changed much since I bought mine early last year.
hmmm I'm upgrading my A3 Quattro Sport Quattro to a bigger car in this segment and tempted over the A3 Sportback ...just for the ACC as standard but the 3.6 Ltr Twin Turbro is a big turn on
You started the engine and I could barely tell that it was on.. and what's with the MMI ? The display and Dials looks like the Game Gear from Sega Genesis back in 1995
Good nonsense. 😀 It’s a good looking car, apart from the quad tailpipes, it’s trying too hard there. If you went to Preston to play on electric bikes I’m guessing you visited Inch Perfect? I’ve been there, it’s great fun. In fact, as much as I like my GR Yaris and F-Type (did I ever mention those?), I have most fun on 2 wheels. Maybe I should check out your other channel? 😎
Hi! Do you think that in the future cars with gasoline and diesel engines will disappear from their production in the future? I hope this never happens!😓😭
Wish they’d made a sportbrake version…or pop that engine in an estate. I’d be in one in a flash. Edit. As a parent of 2 wanting an estate with a bit of ooomph choices are very limited. A fast Kia word sort that problem for me
Yeah - I did have a bit in the video about that but cut it out (it was a bit long). A monthly finance package on an Audi S5 is going to be cheaper than on the Kia for exactly that reason!
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff that's because Kia and Audi have different pricing strategies, nothing to do with the residual value. Audi only charges you for the depreciation, so after 3 years the car is worth pretty much what the final payment is (or even less, depending on mileage). Kia, on the other hand, charges more per month, but the final payment is a lot less than the actual value of the car (meaning you actually build some equity). The final payment with a Stinger (on a 3 year PCP plan) is £16-17k, and the value of the car is £25-26k.
I bloody love these! You can prove you don’t take yourself too seriously, as you can order it in yellow 👀 It’s a shame you didn’t have this until Wednesday, when summer came back, you wet idiot 🤓 I wonder how much this costs down under?
Top of the range GT in Australia is AUD 68K. I paid approximately that last year for the 2020 model here in Oz. Easily the best car I have ever owned and I have had some rippers. As Roger Taylor sang in the Queen song, "I'm in love with my car" could not be truer. It is that good.
Can pick up a second hand model for 39k AUD. and tbf, the model difference between the 18 to 20 spec are minimal. Picked up my 18 spec stinger and I am in love with it.
"It's as wet as a cow made of liquid" - LOL
Great review. I love my 2019 Stinger GT2 AWD. It has loads of features (as you point out) and the 365HP twin-turbo keeps me from feeling inadequate next to Mustangs, Chargers and yes, Audis and BMWs (aka badge snobs). For the price, Kia knocked this one outta the park. I just hope they don't discontinue them in 2022 as the recent rumours have been saying. However, at this point they're still somewhat rare and uncommon on the road and elicit compliments from people in parking lots. I had a guy in a 'vette Stingray recently ask me a lot of questions about it in a parking lot.
Hi Tim, you did a great review on the Kia Stinger. I recently purchased a 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 here in the states and it is awesome! I noticed in your video that you said the Stinger's driving feel reminded you of the E39 BMW 5 series. As we know, Hyundai/Kia hired former BMW M boss Albert Biermann away from BMW. It's no secret that Albert developed the performance aspect for the Kia Stinger. BUT, Albert Biermann was also known for being "the man" behind the excellent E39 BMW M5.
I have a theory that Albert Biermann essentially developed the Kia Stinger based heavily off of his original E39 M5. That is to say, the Kia Stinger drives like a E39 BMW M5. Let's look at the engine power specs:
E39 BMW M5
394 HP @ 6600
369 lb/ft torque @ 3800
2022 Kia Stinger
368 HP @ 6000
376 lb/ft torque @ 1300
The E39 M5 has only 26 more horsepower than the Stinger. The Stinger has 7 more lb/ft of torque so the numbers are similar. The M5 has a heavy engine V8 while Stinger uses a twin turbo V6 so the 0 to 60 times are similar as well. I've always wanted to get a new M5, but didn't feel like spending over $100,000 USD. I feel like my Kia Stinger is giving me most, if not all of the performance of the original E39 M5, being that Albert Biermann was the man behind both of these cars.
What do you think Tim? Does the Kia Stinger drive and feel like the E39 M5?
I’ve owned my GT (Aussie GT is your GTS) for 4 months. It’s an amazingly fun drive, but also a really practical family car.
Did you manage to get any discount on the DA price ?
Excellent review and enjoyed it. I feel sorry for badge snobs as they don't know what they are missing out on by simply dismissing Kia.
I did a lot of research and testing here in Oz before buying my top of the range Stinger GT last year, and when all things considered, such as driving experience, performance, standard equipment, warranty and price, this beats anything on the road. Value for money and bang for bucks, I am not sure what gets close to it here in Oz. Best car I have ever owned and driven and I have had some wonderful cars in the past, including a Merc, which was also great.
Cheers from Oz.
Absolutely love mine. Albeit it’s a pre-facelift one. Utterly superb GT and ridiculous value compared to the boring German alternatives.
Chris, totally agree. Got mine a year ago and it is a dream car. The German alternatives, specced similarly, are almost twice the price of the Stinger GT here in Oz.
I can remember passing my test in a Kia Pride in 94... Boy, have Kia come along way since those days... Great review as always.
Thanks man!
Love it when Rodie makes honest reviews on down-to-earth cars ❤️
💯 One of the most underrated and under-appreciated (by non-motoring journalists at least) cars on sale
Could not agree more. I am biased as I own one and absolutely love it.
@@belvederedog2563 Been interested in these for a while. I guess you would recommend! For the car it is with a 7 year warranty is madness.
@@greg882 Best car I have ever owned. The warranty is also a good selling point. Here in Australia, if I take it to the same dealer for servicing, the warranty extends for another 3 years.
Reviews like this is why I've subscribed, top review 👍🏻
Always wanted one ever since they came out, one day
Day in the life of a Stinger Owner:
Every day I get compliments on my Black Kia AWD Stinger. Just today alone, my neighbor sees me driving out of my driveway and stops to compliment the look of the car. Then off to the carwash two guys there give me the thumps up. Then off to gas station to fill her up, the guy at the next gas pump says, damn that's a nice car, then as I pull out and get stuck at a traffic light a man drives his truck up next to me, rolls his window down and says I noticed your car, is a Maserati? I said it's a Kia and he couldn't believe it. He said the Maserati dealership is down the street and the Stinger looks like one. I was curious so I drove to the dealership and the Maserati salesmen comes out and says to me that's a great looking car. you have All this in the afternoon with my Stinger. Love it!!
I just bought mine a fews months ago for my very first car and I got the federation orange and I get a lot of compliments and it's funny to see their jaws drop when you say kia lol
A great review and a lovely car! gonna watch more of yours and trying to obtain one of those Kia that I once looked down upon.
I just bought the KIA Stinger GT 2023 (Elite) in Hungary. It was the best decision of my life.
Rare, everybody looks at It, unique design, and you get everything in It.
Fantastic video and very different from the usual TH-cam guff. Just ordered a new Stinger and now I have to wait till April for delivery
Thanks Stuart - hope you enjoy the new Stinger!
I just ordered a Scorpion from Kia of South Miami, only problem is i have to wait till Feb. so looking forward to it!
I had a Stinger GT1 and loved it... it had performance, utility, and looked amazing. I recently sold it for an IS500
Just been told there’s a 9 mth wait for a 21 new stinger , can’t get them here in Perth Western Australia
2020 stinger gt panthera metal chameleon trim. I have had it for almost two years. Only one problem. Can't keep tires on it.....
Somehow I'm not surprised 😂
This has looked like a proper sleeper from the day it was launched - still tempting today.
Keep 'em coming BTW: your stuff nicely complements the likes of Henry, Harry and Комрад Миша (with his nutty 'ring vids) - a four course meal of motoring content.
Thanks Barbieri! You're too kind.
Yeah, but beware there will be soon a way more modern iteration in the works.
Thanks Tim, nice review, great car! I might trade the GT86 for one when the kids are too lanky to fit...looks like a great daily+
Thanks James :)
I had the original version in 2018. Best car I've ever owned. It's a GT not a Sports car.
I can't wait for an EV version... I'd trade my Polestar 2 in for it.
Aha didn't know you had one as well!
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff I traded it in for the Polestar 2 ... which is a good car. But as you know it has a slightly smaller boot and a firmer ride - I do miss the Stinger.
I tried to explain to my Audi/BMW mates, their cars are like a grown up Greyhound ... where the Stinger was like a puppy wagging it's tails and just having fun. Yeah won't beat an Audi S5 or BMW 440 around a track, but on the normal roads I'd have more fun and be more comfortable on long motorway trips.
But loving the EV life now ... don't miss petrol stations and apart from North Cost 500 trips with the lads, I don't do over 200 miles so it's perfect for us.
@@Gdank72 Agree with your comments about the Stinger. I did a comparison for an equivalent specced Audi and BMW compared to the Stinger here in Oz and they were approximately twice the price. Value for money is unbeatable for a great daily drive and a mesmerizing highway cruiser with the odd shot of pedal to the metal when safe and no police around. Goes like a rocket
This is one of the few cars we get cheaper here in Oz than the UK. The GT is £33,000 GBP ($60,000 AUD) here.
Can't find a price for the GTS. Dont think we get it yet (if eva?).
They hold their price reasonably well too. Pity as I wanted them to depreciate like an Audi brick and snap one up for a song.
PS: An S5 (only comes in 6cyl 3.0L Turbo Petrol here) is £66,000 GBP ($120,000 AUD) so no comparison unfortunately.
We don't get the GTS only the GT here in Oz. Drive away price is approximately 68K for the top of the range GT.. The new model price has not changed much since I bought mine early last year.
@Catholic Firefighter Nice to see us Catholics thinking alike. I have said it so many times, the Stinger is the best value for money car on the road
@Catholic Firefighter Dare I say it, that is very true
hmmm I'm upgrading my A3 Quattro Sport Quattro to a bigger car in this segment and tempted over the A3 Sportback ...just for the ACC as standard but the 3.6 Ltr Twin Turbro is a big turn on
I bought a American gt1 and it runs with our muscle cars and has no problem keeping up
You started the engine and I could barely tell that it was on.. and what's with the MMI ? The display and Dials looks like the Game Gear from Sega Genesis back in 1995
Good nonsense. 😀 It’s a good looking car, apart from the quad tailpipes, it’s trying too hard there.
If you went to Preston to play on electric bikes I’m guessing you visited Inch Perfect? I’ve been there, it’s great fun. In fact, as much as I like my GR Yaris and F-Type (did I ever mention those?), I have most fun on 2 wheels. Maybe I should check out your other channel? 😎
Is this a 2021 or a 2022. I know it says 2021 but I notice the screen in the 2021 model is different from the 2022
Bought it!! Makes great TH-cam videos
That rear window line is pure stratos, love it 😎
You don't have the new logo ?
It's slowly coming out on new Kia models here - the Stinger hasn't got it yet
Excellent review, thanks!
Hi! Do you think that in the future cars with gasoline and diesel engines will disappear from their production in the future? I hope this never happens!😓😭
Couldn't agree more with you about cars being so ridiculously stiff for the street..
Seems it's not far off an Aston Martin. Kia are really on form at the moment.
I'd love one of these 😍😍😍
Got one and just love it
back seat of stinger is bigger than s5
If cooled seats should be required by law on all cars by 2024.
Wierd how the UK version doesn't get the Custom driving mode.
And you didn’t get the chunky albeit fake outlets on the facelift. Pity, they look way better.
@@KeithPatrick-wo5cw Oh didn't notice we didn't them, guess you could get some after market tips but probaly small as the cut out would be small still
I think of these as more of a Panamara-Lite 🤓
In Canada a Porsche Panamera is over $100k. I picked up my GT2 AWD for $43,790. The two cars don't even reside in the same price point.
@@SilentKnight43
Correct 👍🏻
That’s why I said ‘Lite’ and didn’t suggest it was in any way a competitor 🤓
Enjoy your brilliant car 🚗
Brilliant! (the review and the car)
raining harder then a cow pissing on a flat stone
Wish they’d made a sportbrake version…or pop that engine in an estate. I’d be in one in a flash.
Edit. As a parent of 2 wanting an estate with a bit of ooomph choices are very limited. A fast Kia word sort that problem for me
That's a fantastic idea!
So we have tim rodie drives and rides stuff, now we need Tim Rodie rubs bald head on headlining
This car is clearly great value. It also has poor residuals. You don’t need to be a badge snob to appreciate the implications of this.
Yeah - I did have a bit in the video about that but cut it out (it was a bit long). A monthly finance package on an Audi S5 is going to be cheaper than on the Kia for exactly that reason!
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff that's because Kia and Audi have different pricing strategies, nothing to do with the residual value. Audi only charges you for the depreciation, so after 3 years the car is worth pretty much what the final payment is (or even less, depending on mileage). Kia, on the other hand, charges more per month, but the final payment is a lot less than the actual value of the car (meaning you actually build some equity). The final payment with a Stinger (on a 3 year PCP plan) is £16-17k, and the value of the car is £25-26k.
"Wetter than a cow made entirely of liquid"!
done
I bloody love these!
You can prove you don’t take yourself too seriously, as you can order it in yellow 👀
It’s a shame you didn’t have this until Wednesday, when summer came back, you wet idiot 🤓
I wonder how much this costs down under?
I'm sure someone will be along soon to tell us!
Top of the range GT in Australia is AUD 68K. I paid approximately that last year for the 2020 model here in Oz. Easily the best car I have ever owned and I have had some rippers. As Roger Taylor sang in the Queen song, "I'm in love with my car" could not be truer. It is that good.
Can pick up a second hand model for 39k AUD. and tbf, the model difference between the 18 to 20 spec are minimal. Picked up my 18 spec stinger and I am in love with it.
스팅거에 8단 dct 장착되야 한다.그래야 제로백이 좀더 빨라진다.
BMW BENZ AUDI and LEXUS KILLER. All day
Too much hard plastics for what you're paying
this car looks much worse on the new wheels.