@@LifeOfBurch We will be rolling through your part of the world on July 7-9th range. We are headed up to Bar Harbor, ME on our little Super Cub C125's to ride in the Scooter Cannonball Run. The closest point on our tentative path looks like Gainsboro, VA (~120 miles away). We could probably adjust our route further south around Waynesboro to come up the Atlantic side through Alexandria. ( Tentative route is here: goo.gl/maps/ACyUqz9tjZkJcUxk9 ) Just brainstormin'... 😉👍
Absolutely same for me. Mainly mike and some of quasi as well. Just picked up my 1100 as first bike from WV back to VA Two days ago and rode 2 hrs back, and then in rain and night all within the first 6 hrs and at 170 miles in less than two days. Such a blast
A commenter on Quasimotard’s suspension video said that the service manual says 18 clicks from top to bottom, not 20. Be careful not to over adjust. I set my back to 10 clicks and used Quasi’s zip tie trick to see if I was bottoming out. Before adjustment definitely was bottoming out. Would compress about 1/2 just sitting on the bike (I weigh just under 200lbs). Putting the rear suspension at 10 and no more bottoming out. Now I get about 1/4 compression sitting on the bike instead of 1/2 (1/2 of the total movement of the shock travel). I also adjusted the front shocks and I believe I put 4 additional full turns on those.
You could easily go from 0-20 preload without damaging the bike. If it was experiencing sag and tightening the preload made the suspension move you might want to alternates couple of clicks on either side until it is fully extended but you don’t have to. The main reason for adjusting slowly then testing is that any changes can be evaluated for better or worse before continuing. I recommend only one change front or back at a time. When setting up a new bike make one change then ride and evaluate this gives you a result of one particular cause and effect.
Thanks for the Simple Tutorial for a Newbie on this ride. I weigh around 150 lbs so if the setting was Factory 3 position chances are from what I have felt taking it up to 5 and the 1/2 turn up front may well be just what is needed. At least worth finding out anyway.. . Excellent Video. . Quasi did a great one and am sure will be checking back with him for further info, but right now plan to keep it simple and you did this well.
Working on a bike while standing two feet from falling in the water seems like an accident waiting to happen. LOL Love your videos, really some great info.
Thank you for some aid. I bought a Rebel 1100 std LM, now have added a thin spit fire wind-shield and a 4 bros. ex...seat & sissy w/ hand warmers! Also, I'm adding more a Arlen Ness mirror already!
Hey brother thank you for the update on the suspension and all of the other good tips I've been watching your Channel very informative thank you for your work
Dude love your videos and thanks for all the tips I just bought me an 1100 and it's partly because it's just an amazing Bike but also your videos sold me on it as I did my research... plus who can resist Tacos?? Can't wait to do my own taco run on my New Rebel! Thanks Burch!
Actually, you do not make the suspension firmer by adjusting the preload. Damping and rebound would do that but the rebel does not have fully adjustable suspension. The preload only adjusts the suspension sag when you are sitting on the bike. You should always have positive and negative suspension travel when sitting on the bike. Measure the amont of sag with a measuring tape or as said with a zip tie. Having the preload to tight will lead to no negative suspension travel, this will feel stiff, but actually it is not stiffer, just dangerous if you go over humps at speed and your wheel looses contact to the ground. Preload can be measured and adjusted once and then be left alone if the load of the bike does not change. But just to make sure, the thing you should measure is the sag (pos ans neg suspension travel) and not the percieved feeling of stiffness because actually you cannot adjust the stiffness on this bike.
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If the suspension is stiff from the factory, why would you stiffen it more? Just generally curious, does it help? I got the speed wobbles this morning from literally going the speed limit so would i loosen the front or stiffen?
Do you feel the suspension settings from the factory were why you had a problem on one of your first rides and you said some small bumps pushed you (what seemed) significantly off the seat at highway speed?
Thank you i dial my in using your tips amd man no more rear battoming and is smothe as well as the front by doing little moves and on the fkdup road. 😊
excellent and useful content again matey, thank you ... and for the links too! Do you keep a decent tool kit under the seat or not bother? I didn't have any motor tools at all so have just shelled out for a load of Wera and Bahco stuff that will fit under the seat.
Hey Burch, ive decided on getting that rebel 500 and have already put a deposit on the base model. Does the shock covers actually protect anything? I couldn’t find much on that as I might want to get that option later when I have enough money saved. 😁 cheers mate
I am 5'9" and ride a sportster with forward pegs. Tried out the rebel last week. The problem is the vertical an horizontal distance of the pegs from the seat. You will habe to try it but o assume that your knees will be higher then your hips. The pegs are not far back as to allow your legs to fold under you as on a speed twin or similar bikes. And they are so far back that you will be left with a small knee angle wothnyour legs not under but in front of you. But wait for the after sales market market to bring yout some forward pegs (as they did for the 500) and try that out as well.
@@shizzymcfrizzy4016 the position is similar to a sportster iron or 883 but the controls feel further back and higer up... But I had no back to back comparison. If you feel cramped on such a sportster, the rebel will most probably be worse.
Dude same! After the second or third time almost getting launched off the bike I was like yeeaaa maybe I should stop putting off the suspension adjustment 😂
I know this is an old video, but all you are doing is adjusting preload. The proper way to set your preload is by measuring sag. There are tons of videos on how to do this. If you are too big or light for the current springs, setting preload won't fix that as it only addresses sag. Compression and rebound is what would make your suspension softer or harder as it controls how fast your springs compress and rebound. You do not have those settings on the stock forks and rear shock.
All you change by adjusting the preload is the ride height. It has nothing to do with the stiffness of the spring. You could have done your own investigations into the matter BEFORE you perpetuate the nonsense which surrounds us on TH-cam.
Hi there! As a rider of more than 50 years I enjoy your videos. Very informative but I think you need to not over do it so much with the hand gestures as it gets to the point where it starts to make you look stupid. Just my opinion but it becomes a laughing point. Apart from that you have some good content and informative videos. Hope you keep going. Cheers.
Unfortunately, you are completely wrong, preload is not to make your suspension harder or softer. You might increase preload to stop you bottoming out but changing preload does not make your suspension stiffer or softer, you are just changing where your shock is sitting in its stroke.
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Thanks for the shout-out, and congrats on your phenomenal channel growth! Now it's time to road trip your Rebel! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
A road trip would be awesome! Of course I’d have to swing through your area if/when it happens. It’s the TH-cam collab the world needs 😂
@@LifeOfBurch We will be rolling through your part of the world on July 7-9th range. We are headed up to Bar Harbor, ME on our little Super Cub C125's to ride in the Scooter Cannonball Run. The closest point on our tentative path looks like Gainsboro, VA (~120 miles away). We could probably adjust our route further south around Waynesboro to come up the Atlantic side through Alexandria. ( Tentative route is here: goo.gl/maps/ACyUqz9tjZkJcUxk9 ) Just brainstormin'... 😉👍
you and @quasi are the reason I've been able to rock the 1100 as my first bike. Thanks for your dedication and passion! Absolutely love the vids!
I think this will be my first bike as well! it's pretty amazing.
Absolutely same for me. Mainly mike and some of quasi as well. Just picked up my 1100 as first bike from WV back to VA Two days ago and rode 2 hrs back, and then in rain and night all within the first 6 hrs and at 170 miles in less than two days. Such a blast
A commenter on Quasimotard’s suspension video said that the service manual says 18 clicks from top to bottom, not 20. Be careful not to over adjust. I set my back to 10 clicks and used Quasi’s zip tie trick to see if I was bottoming out. Before adjustment definitely was bottoming out. Would compress about 1/2 just sitting on the bike (I weigh just under 200lbs). Putting the rear suspension at 10 and no more bottoming out. Now I get about 1/4 compression sitting on the bike instead of 1/2 (1/2 of the total movement of the shock travel). I also adjusted the front shocks and I believe I put 4 additional full turns on those.
Precisely zero 1100 Rebels in Oregon dealers. Definitely want a manual one. Your channel is a big help.
Great video! I went up to 8 in the rear. At +200 lbs., feels greater now. Stiffer is way to go!
Agreed! I just wish I had got around to doing this sooner! Sooo much better!
So a rider of about 240 should be set at 8-9?
You could easily go from 0-20 preload without damaging the bike.
If it was experiencing sag and tightening the preload made the suspension move you might want to alternates couple of clicks on either side until it is fully extended but you don’t have to. The main reason for adjusting slowly then testing is that any changes can be evaluated for better or worse before continuing. I recommend only one change front or back at a time. When setting up a new bike make one change then ride and evaluate this gives you a result of one particular cause and effect.
The beauty of this beast never cease to amaze me
Nice video! I am planning to get the Rebel 1100 end of this year. I am glad I found this channel. Really great and helpful stuff.
Thanks for the Simple Tutorial for a Newbie on this ride. I weigh around 150 lbs so if the setting was Factory 3 position chances are from what I have felt taking it up to 5 and the 1/2 turn up front may well be just what is needed. At least worth finding out anyway.. . Excellent Video. . Quasi did a great one and am sure will be checking back with him for further info, but right now plan to keep it simple and you did this well.
Working on a bike while standing two feet from falling in the water seems like an accident waiting to happen. LOL Love your videos, really some great info.
Thanks for the tutorial. Worked like a charm 💪🏼
Thanks for the video I can't wait to adjust mine when I get off work. It's so bad on a rough road right now.
Cant wait for my rebel 1100 to arrive in norway! Great content! 😁
Thanks! I promise it’s worth the wait! You’re gonna love it! 🙌🏻
Thank you for some aid. I bought a Rebel 1100 std LM, now have added a thin spit fire wind-shield and a 4 bros. ex...seat & sissy w/ hand warmers! Also, I'm adding more a Arlen Ness mirror already!
That’s awesome!! You’re well on your way with some quality mods! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Holy moly. Just the video I needed right when I needed it
After about 3 minutes of making these adjustments, either me or the bike or both would be in the water... Thanks for the video.
Gotta be careful while getting the scenic shot! Haha
Hey brother thank you for the update on the suspension and all of the other good tips I've been watching your Channel very informative thank you for your work
That’s awesome man! Glad I could help! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Just rode a Rebel 1100 for the first time today. You should test ride a Chief, my man!
Very useful. Thanks!
Corbin is going to make a solo seat for the Rebel 1100!
Dude love your videos and thanks for all the tips I just bought me an 1100 and it's partly because it's just an amazing Bike but also your videos sold me on it as I did my research... plus who can resist Tacos?? Can't wait to do my own taco run on my New Rebel! Thanks Burch!
That’s awesome dude!! Enjoy your Rebel (and tacos) 😂🤘🏻
Actually, you do not make the suspension firmer by adjusting the preload. Damping and rebound would do that but the rebel does not have fully adjustable suspension. The preload only adjusts the suspension sag when you are sitting on the bike. You should always have positive and negative suspension travel when sitting on the bike. Measure the amont of sag with a measuring tape or as said with a zip tie. Having the preload to tight will lead to no negative suspension travel, this will feel stiff, but actually it is not stiffer, just dangerous if you go over humps at speed and your wheel looses contact to the ground. Preload can be measured and adjusted once and then be left alone if the load of the bike does not change. But just to make sure, the thing you should measure is the sag (pos ans neg suspension travel) and not the percieved feeling of stiffness because actually you cannot adjust the stiffness on this bike.
How bad is the vibration in the bars? I would like to get one but my hands fall asleep with vibration fairly easily. Good video btw.
Super helpful! Subscribed
Wow ! You sound like Chris fix, 👍🏻 👌
Are there any recommended settings by rider weight? Being 210 pounds, I think I need to make some adjustments.
Can you advise where the tool kit is located
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If the suspension is stiff from the factory, why would you stiffen it more? Just generally curious, does it help? I got the speed wobbles this morning from literally going the speed limit so would i loosen the front or stiffen?
'bout time for another live ride...
Agreed! Definitely plan to do one in the next couple weeks!
Do you feel the suspension settings from the factory were why you had a problem on one of your first rides and you said some small bumps pushed you (what seemed) significantly off the seat at highway speed?
100%! At that point the preload wasn’t high enough for my weight, so it was bottoming out way too easily. Much better now!
Thank you i dial my in using your tips amd man no more rear battoming and is smothe as well as the front by doing little moves and on the fkdup road. 😊
How about a lifted rebel 1100? Get longer rear sus and dual brake capable forks?
Will the front adjustment screw setting vibrate either way during riding?
Nope, they stay in place! They’re pretty snug to turn and designed to stay at whatever spec you set em to 🤘🏻
You have it backwards ((I am nitpicking you to death, lol). It's counterclockwise. It's always the direction facing the threads.
Hey Burch, any recommendations for engine guards/ frame sliders for protection for this thing? Haven't found anything yet
Does the rear adjustment lower the seat height? Thanks for the video.
It makes it lower or higher when you're sitting on it, but just the same before you sit on it
what seat is that
Still thinking the new seat is firm and less comfortable than the stock seat? Or did it end up growing on you?
So if I'm 6'1" and 200 pounds I should make my suspension stiffer?
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excellent and useful content again matey, thank you ... and for the links too! Do you keep a decent tool kit under the seat or not bother? I didn't have any motor tools at all so have just shelled out for a load of Wera and Bahco stuff that will fit under the seat.
Glad it helped! Personally I only keep the stock tool kit under there, nothing fancier.
Your proximity to the water made me nervous..
I risk it all for the perfect shot! 😂
Love the view!
nice the front can be set also i did not know that
Yup! And easy as can be!
I just put my rear suspension to a 5 and now the left side is making a weird whining noise. Dose anyone have any idea why that is
im 240lb what do you recommend bro
"butt dyno" lol
The best indicator! 😂
Hey Burch, ive decided on getting that rebel 500 and have already put a deposit on the base model. Does the shock covers actually protect anything? I couldn’t find much on that as I might want to get that option later when I have enough money saved. 😁 cheers mate
I saw another video where a guy actually turned it 20 times
The factory sets it at 3, which is HORRIBLE
im 6'2" at 275. is this bike to small for me?
yes too small
@@rubensahak9178 just curious what about it makes it small?
I am 5'9" and ride a sportster with forward pegs. Tried out the rebel last week. The problem is the vertical an horizontal distance of the pegs from the seat. You will habe to try it but o assume that your knees will be higher then your hips. The pegs are not far back as to allow your legs to fold under you as on a speed twin or similar bikes. And they are so far back that you will be left with a small knee angle wothnyour legs not under but in front of you. But wait for the after sales market market to bring yout some forward pegs (as they did for the 500) and try that out as well.
@@wickedtwix ok will do thanks
@@shizzymcfrizzy4016 the position is similar to a sportster iron or 883 but the controls feel further back and higer up... But I had no back to back comparison. If you feel cramped on such a sportster, the rebel will most probably be worse.
i need this nearly got bucked off today lol
Dude same! After the second or third time almost getting launched off the bike I was like yeeaaa maybe I should stop putting off the suspension adjustment 😂
@@LifeOfBurch 100% setting mine right now lol
I hate it when that happens.
Butt-dyno. Excellent!
I know this is an old video, but all you are doing is adjusting preload. The proper way to set your preload is by measuring sag. There are tons of videos on how to do this. If you are too big or light for the current springs, setting preload won't fix that as it only addresses sag. Compression and rebound is what would make your suspension softer or harder as it controls how fast your springs compress and rebound. You do not have those settings on the stock forks and rear shock.
Needs 18" shocks
18”?! 😳 I don’t know about all that! Burly Brand has said they’ll likely make stiletto shocks for this bike, but those are 12-13”.
I've got a 36" inseam. I think it would make a good scrambler.
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All you change by adjusting the preload is the ride height. It has nothing to do with the stiffness of the spring. You could have done your own investigations into the matter BEFORE you perpetuate the nonsense which surrounds us on TH-cam.
Hi there! As a rider of more than 50 years I enjoy your videos. Very informative but I think you need to not over do it so much with the hand gestures as it gets to the point where it starts to make you look stupid. Just my opinion but it becomes a laughing point. Apart from that you have some good content and informative videos. Hope you keep going. Cheers.
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Unfortunately, you are completely wrong, preload is not to make your suspension harder or softer. You might increase preload to stop you bottoming out but changing preload does not make your suspension stiffer or softer, you are just changing where your shock is sitting in its stroke.
I literally said that in the video Terry.
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But dyna . . Lol
Bunch of BS
Worst problem is not an appropriate title. Shock adjustment...call it like it is.
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