An extra note for hawkeye, generally speaking the reason they calculate is because if you actually watch a tennis ball contact the ground during professional tennis, it's actually generally not what you would consider a bounce but actually drags across the court to some extent, so camera's can never really determine that.
6:20 fun fact: the glue for a substantial amount of baseballs is made, by hand in giant kitchen aid style mixers, at the factory I work at. We do all of our computing on very old computers that were moved to vms that I am now in charge of updating.
servethehome just did a video on the datacenter used by an NFL team. It was fascinating. Mostly all the analytic used for the food stand so that they do not run out of ingredient during a game.
Damn, Linus is REALLY fanboying over the idea of having this system in his center, haha. Good to have that kind of excitement toward things, especially has you grow older and more cynical.
Hawkeye's been in use for soccer for many years, to determine whether the ball has fully crossed the goal line or not. The ref will get a signal to their wrist watch if it's a goal, and they always show an animation of the ball position on TV.
14:30 Speaking of upgrades, to make it easier for the referee to tell whether the badminton was inside the court or outside, install a flooring that lights up a dot exactly where the badminton landed first, that way there will be no need for slow-motion cameras or anything of the sort :D
germany still struggles to move past fax, matter of fact they are huge on manual filled printouts and postal deliveries - we are slowly transitioning towards email while the rest of the world is fully digital and deals with everything over apps on their phone 😅
i am STILL shocked that most US offices REQUIRE you to fax them personal info, as opposed to email, "...because fax is more secure" somehow. but fax does NOT allow you to send if somebody else is sending, it takes longer, especially for multiple pages, plus, if the file you are sending is ON the computer, you have to PRINT it to send it, wasting paper, and if you are faxing a photo ID, you have to copy it first to send it, where with email you can just snap a pic on your phone and email it.
You can fax direct from your computer a few different ways, VOIP providers probably being the least friction while a cheaper overall solution being a USB modem hooked into an existing phone line and using Windows's built in fax capabilities.
@@DigitalMoonlight you completely missed the point of my comment... it's not that there aren't "many ways to fax", but that fax itself is a veritable hassle! case-in-point: WHO THE FECK HAS A PHONE LINE ANYMORE?!? MOST people have only their cell phone, and our local phone company no longer offers POTS service anymore. and whp in their right mind has a "modem", USB or otherwise, anyways?! and lastly: VoIP? really? yes, let's use an internet connection to send a slow-ass message over an antiquated technology that doesn't work half the time..........OR, we COULD just use EMAIL and have it sent over that SAME internet connection in HALF the time, the first time, every time...
Q-SYS is amazing. I run a Q-SYS system at a convention center. I love it! It is so much easier to manage than most systems. The cores themselves aren't terribly priced, lookout for the pricing on their amps and other equipment. Let me know if you want to see some real world examples.
As far as the question at the start, I work in the racing industry, and it actually surprises me how advanced things have gotten. Don't get me wrong, it certainly isn't ground breaking tech or anything. But given the culture of racing, and how stubborn we can all be in our hobby of racing, I'm just surprised so much tech has been adopted in general
Just want to quickly point out, in tennis the ball does have to be fully out to be considered out, Linus is incorrect in saying that only the contact patch has to be out. The entire ball needs to be out for the ball to be called out, otherwise, even if it is hanging over the line but not physically touching, it is considered in.
I'm not super familiar with these sports as I don't watch them, but why could they not track the ball? You could detect when the ball makes contact when its movement vector (per-frame) becomes a magnitude close to 0, and when the vector direction suddenly changes. You could find the center of the ball by calculating the X and Y pixels of the ball and then averaging to find the center point, then comparing that to the table/court positional data.
Talking about sports tech... I really think Linus would be extremely geeked out over how FIRST runs the FRC championships across North America. There is A LOT of technology that goes into these events
I once heard an amazing quote that sums up Japan and their mode of operation, the tech they use in business/professional/office environments, etc. amazingly. They're the country that lived in the year 2005 since 80s and stayed in that year until today. Way ahead of the rest of the world back then, and dragging behind now... at least when it comes to employing innovation into tech used for communication, business operations, web designs, etc.
I think the last time I played badminton was in 6th grade and we just whacked the shuttle at each other. Its wild there are so many badminton centers in BC.
In the case of how mush of an object touch or not some thing... what if they use a lase or a sensor sheet, or like you say a bunch of floor level cameras array. doesn't have enough inversion for that? Is like footbal(soccer) upto not so long ago they not have a way to determing if something occur in the field and the side jufges where to... human to understand what happen, so they install the BAR, and now they can have a feedback about some moves or penalties.. I mean, technology is to advance to make that work easy, and they have the money, so.
Didn't the US nuclear missile silo's run off floppys until the current administration? Here in Australia a lot of government branches still use DOS on all their computers.
I would rather work with stuff made here and all of his ping pong ball and basketball net and whatnot machine vision tracking stuff. I'm pretty sure he's open sourced most of it, but I'm also sure that he would love the opportunity to work with you.
An extra note for hawkeye, generally speaking the reason they calculate is because if you actually watch a tennis ball contact the ground during professional tennis, it's actually generally not what you would consider a bounce but actually drags across the court to some extent, so camera's can never really determine that.
Can it catch LAN cheaters😂
6:20 fun fact: the glue for a substantial amount of baseballs is made, by hand in giant kitchen aid style mixers, at the factory I work at. We do all of our computing on very old computers that were moved to vms that I am now in charge of updating.
Keep up the good work!
7:40 Linus getting all hot and bothered at the mere thought of a free Hawkeye system for his badminton center
servethehome just did a video on the datacenter used by an NFL team. It was fascinating. Mostly all the analytic used for the food stand so that they do not run out of ingredient during a game.
I really hope they manage to get Hawk-eye, it would be really cool to learn how the whole system works!
Tje Wan show clips that deal with what you guys are doing in regards to buildings is always riveting, especially when you spring something on Linus 😁
Damn, Linus is REALLY fanboying over the idea of having this system in his center, haha. Good to have that kind of excitement toward things, especially has you grow older and more cynical.
He got all hot and worked up and had to take his jumper off.
Hear me out...
Next LTX could use some case toss Hawkeye
the Hawkeye boys would love that!
Put whatever equiptment you want in there, i just want to see a linus vs luke badminton match when its ready
Hawkeye is used in GAA games in Ireland to decide whether the ball is between the goalposts.
They have separate settings for Hurling and Football.
Hawkeye's been in use for soccer for many years, to determine whether the ball has fully crossed the goal line or not. The ref will get a signal to their wrist watch if it's a goal, and they always show an animation of the ball position on TV.
14:30 Speaking of upgrades, to make it easier for the referee to tell whether the badminton was inside the court or outside, install a flooring that lights up a dot exactly where the badminton landed first, that way there will be no need for slow-motion cameras or anything of the sort :D
germany still struggles to move past fax, matter of fact they are huge on manual filled printouts and postal deliveries - we are slowly transitioning towards email while the rest of the world is fully digital and deals with everything over apps on their phone 😅
i am STILL shocked that most US offices REQUIRE you to fax them personal info, as opposed to email, "...because fax is more secure" somehow.
but fax does NOT allow you to send if somebody else is sending, it takes longer, especially for multiple pages, plus, if the file you are sending is ON the computer, you have to PRINT it to send it, wasting paper, and if you are faxing a photo ID, you have to copy it first to send it, where with email you can just snap a pic on your phone and email it.
You can fax direct from your computer a few different ways, VOIP providers probably being the least friction while a cheaper overall solution being a USB modem hooked into an existing phone line and using Windows's built in fax capabilities.
@@DigitalMoonlight you completely missed the point of my comment...
it's not that there aren't "many ways to fax", but that fax itself is a veritable hassle!
case-in-point: WHO THE FECK HAS A PHONE LINE ANYMORE?!?
MOST people have only their cell phone, and our local phone company no longer offers POTS service anymore.
and whp in their right mind has a "modem", USB or otherwise, anyways?!
and lastly: VoIP? really? yes, let's use an internet connection to send a slow-ass message over an antiquated technology that doesn't work half the time..........OR, we COULD just use EMAIL and have it sent over that SAME internet connection in HALF the time, the first time, every time...
I love how exited you guys got. I can really see the passion you have for what you do.
Anyone else click on this thinking Dan's new nickname is Hawkeye? He kind of looks like Alan Alda...
Q-SYS is amazing. I run a Q-SYS system at a convention center. I love it! It is so much easier to manage than most systems. The cores themselves aren't terribly priced, lookout for the pricing on their amps and other equipment.
Let me know if you want to see some real world examples.
As far as the question at the start, I work in the racing industry, and it actually surprises me how advanced things have gotten. Don't get me wrong, it certainly isn't ground breaking tech or anything. But given the culture of racing, and how stubborn we can all be in our hobby of racing, I'm just surprised so much tech has been adopted in general
5:00 yeah, it's easier with the rules in something like soccer, where the ball has to be completely out to be out
Just want to quickly point out, in tennis the ball does have to be fully out to be considered out, Linus is incorrect in saying that only the contact patch has to be out. The entire ball needs to be out for the ball to be called out, otherwise, even if it is hanging over the line but not physically touching, it is considered in.
I'm not super familiar with these sports as I don't watch them, but why could they not track the ball? You could detect when the ball makes contact when its movement vector (per-frame) becomes a magnitude close to 0, and when the vector direction suddenly changes. You could find the center of the ball by calculating the X and Y pixels of the ball and then averaging to find the center point, then comparing that to the table/court positional data.
They do track balls in other sports with stuff inside the balls, not sure why not in Tennis tho.
ok, but...could we rise the ceiling? i mean...with the right sponsor...
Love the Zoolander reference
Talking about sports tech... I really think Linus would be extremely geeked out over how FIRST runs the FRC championships across North America. There is A LOT of technology that goes into these events
I once heard an amazing quote that sums up Japan and their mode of operation, the tech they use in business/professional/office environments, etc. amazingly.
They're the country that lived in the year 2005 since 80s and stayed in that year until today.
Way ahead of the rest of the world back then, and dragging behind now... at least when it comes to employing innovation into tech used for communication, business operations, web designs, etc.
That would be a SICK video though.
I think the last time I played badminton was in 6th grade and we just whacked the shuttle at each other. Its wild there are so many badminton centers in BC.
Playing beyond a 6th grade level - it’s a thing
@@sunnohh yeah I guess a lot of people recall silly things they did in 6th grade and turn them into a regular hobby.
NGL, I definitely was expecting this clip to be about Peter Thiel's pro doping sports league
Id love a Hawkeye camera demo
i like Dan... he is SO good at his schtick, and he just makes you like him so much :)
In the case of how mush of an object touch or not some thing... what if they use a lase or a sensor sheet, or like you say a bunch of floor level cameras array. doesn't have enough inversion for that? Is like footbal(soccer) upto not so long ago they not have a way to determing if something occur in the field and the side jufges where to... human to understand what happen, so they install the BAR, and now they can have a feedback about some moves or penalties.. I mean, technology is to advance to make that work easy, and they have the money, so.
This video highlights the impact of having connections.
Didn't the US nuclear missile silo's run off floppys until the current administration? Here in Australia a lot of government branches still use DOS on all their computers.
Italy STILL uses telegrams (not the app lol) for a bunch of official stuff. Like _why?_
I would rather work with stuff made here and all of his ping pong ball and basketball net and whatnot machine vision tracking stuff. I'm pretty sure he's open sourced most of it, but I'm also sure that he would love the opportunity to work with you.
Collab with the slomo guys 😉
I play badminton on Nintendo Switch Sports.
The discord idea for paging sounds amazing 😂😂😂
I would LOVE to see a video on Hawk Eye!!!!
They should really refocus tech in NFL on reducing brain damage, I think.
1:43 as if canadians would ever vote for less top down authoratariam control and heavy regulation!?!?!?! Linus buddy, bless your heart
I love Dan! He’s fantastic!
you guys should make a video on the tech in formula 1 ,let Jake host he would lose his mind
NHL games are still 720p and it annoys me
Hawk eye came from cricket
sports have become a grey market tictoc casino
Oh boy gambling
first to comment wow love the show
second comment?
4th comment?