Correct.A lot of people have misconceptions about both influencers and politicians. An influencers job is not to be an internet personality but to make you buy stuff and a politicians job is not to make good policies but to get re-elected Both do what you think they have to do to an extent because it’s necessary but otherwise why should they bother They just want to make money like the rest of us Knowing that gives quite a different reference frame and you can make a lot more sense of why things are the way they are.
You'd be surprised to know just how many gullible and naive people are out there. Many readily give in to celebrity worship culture. Just look at fanbases of kpop singers, twitch streamers, instagram models, unhinged taylor swift fans, elon musk cultists, andrew tate etc. Their messiah can do wrong, ever!
@@Tabischan influencer's job is not to make you buy things. It's just to make as much money as possible off of being a known person on the internet, The easiest way to do that is to make people buy things, but that does not mean that is their job, just the easiest and laziest way to go about their job
People are cynical to the point of irrationality but then find themselves misled anyway as long as someone panders to their lifestyle or worldview. This is fundamentally why companies plow so much money into influencers.
@@Makerr8 No, the red flag should exist regardless of what they tell you. Otherwise you are depending on rules that will never be perfectly enforced. You may even evaluate that disclosure means honesty, when it can only be a good signal for that in any way when it's not enforced. To enforce it is to nearly destroy the value of it. The reflexive suspicion against LMG when they do disclose is not because of unenforced rules, but a broader breakdown in trust and social cohesion. This isn't driven by lack of regulatory enforcement, but by cultural shifts and greater awareness of dishonesty (and conspiratorial thinking) enhanced by the internet.
As it should as according to Linus his words in this video they're not allowed to be critical, which should be "obvious" as the product paid for it, they are allowed to say no to the sponsor but unless it's atrocious I don't think Linus cares too much, the argument would be "oh people can make up their own mind, unless you are a r*t@rd"
Tom Scott's video on advertising disclosure is really interesting. He points out that influencers are held to a higher disclosure standard than traditional media. Also, I do recall Kim Kardashian being fined for not disclosing a beauty product post as being sponsored.
I thought it was the other way round, first thing I think of is obviously no TV station has to say the ads are ads or product placement is paid for explicitly like influencers with #ad or “this is sponsored”.
@@adreto2978TV broadcaster advertising is strictly regulated by both OFCOM and the ASA, whereas influencers are only held to account by the ASA (and the respective platforms don't care about rule or law breaking, let's be honest).
We live in a world where marketing is mostly laughable and "re-imagined." It is unfortunate that the consumer base has had to grow to those obvious conclusions unless somehow proven otherwise. BTW, I'm also beyond sick of the almost constant Gambling ads and promotions on almost every social media platform, including radio and TV as well.
Literally just the other day there was a channel that claimed they'd never lie about a product because they're built on the trust and support of their viewers. Yeah I've heard that before.
Knowing TH-cam they won't add those, but one feature that would help a lot would be if a viewer left a comment, you could see how much of the video they watched and what parts. TH-cam already tracks it via watch time, so add those metrics to comments.
I'm actually surprised that this isn't already a thing. My only concern is that there night be some misinformation if somebody goes back in a video to rewatch a specific part and then writes a comment, so they'll show commenting earlier despite watching the whole video. The reverse of this is also true where somebody might skip to the end of the video to make their comment seem more important or pass some sort of filter. Regardless, I would still like to see that information. Watch time would be nice too.
@@MightyDantheman My idea was that it would be a similar feature to the comment hyperlink (where you can put a timestamp in a comment and TH-cam will automatically highlight it blue and take you there if you click on it). My thinking is that it would total the amount of time you were on a videos page, ie not actively watching another video. It would be positioned next to your name (presumably to the right) and when you clicked on it, it would show detailed analytics of what they watched and how many times. I can see how this could be a privacy concern, but there's a million different ways you could add the feature. Please reply if you have any questions/confusion/thoughts!
@@MightyDantheman Not just that but people can watch a video in another platform and decide to leave a comment here instead. I've seen a few videos on Twitter because they were premiered there but I don't really use the platform that much so I wait for them to be posted here in order to comment.
It all starts with the name 'Influencer'. It seems that anyone nowadays with a few followers is automatically an “influencer”. What do 99% of those people influence? Just his/her own ego, I guess.
Any time the tech reviewer is getting perks, i. e. “thanks to (brand name) for sending us (product)”, you can’t be assured that their integrity isn’t being compromised.
Thing is, the problem they're talking about is the number of tech influencers who *won't* say "Thanks to (brand name)" but will instead just act as if it's an honest, unbiased review.
1:20 I recall some time ago on Polish youtube youtubers mentionting they can't show drinking alkohol because it's against a law. But i'd had to fact check this if it was and/or still is a thing.
I’ve never really trusted anything any sort of “personality,” if you will, has told me about something and considering how much I hate governments, I couldn’t really care less if anyone discloses sponsorships or not. I’m just here for entertainment value.
Being "guidelines" doesnt make it non-enforcable. It means they are even more free to litigate. ACCC consumer guidelines led to steam paying 22 mill and implementing the refund system.
Here in Ireland a law was passed a few weeks ago where influencers have to pay taxes on any free items they received and any free items they have received over the years.
Gotta play devils advocate here and say that most of these undisclosed promotions seem to be targeted at either young or relatively new influencers. IE the people who won't likely just have a lawyer ready to explain contracts to them. Like back when youtube was like 'we'll take 80% of your earnings, its the best deal you'll get, trust us'. That and the common stereotype of influencers being charismatic morons (no, I'm not calling out *your* favorite content creator, more like the dime-a-dozen ones that get featured on ads on YT shorts/tiktok)...
Imo, there needs to be a dollar amount any social media influencer makes that requires them to become a media company. That would help at least some refulations. There is such a gulf between people posting for their friends or for fun and those who make a career out of it. I do think it should be fairly high so as not to ounish small time influencers.
The idea of "promoting this or that"... I mean if a person is drinking something or eating something... and it is seen... is THAT "promoting"... it's so absurd the standards for govt defining "promoting". It's idiotic.
Did we really need this spelled out in plain English? Watch literally any Hollywood blockbuster/ action flick. It is literally advertisement central. FF is literally just a massive dodge commercial.
People say that you aren’t disclosing because they know it bothers you. They laugh and say look am triggering you. You got to stop letting these negative people bother you. They’re trolling you.
esp[ecially when he says 'we arnt reviewing it or comparign it to other laptops...... , we jsut were testign to see and show how good it was or technoligy has come compared to other laptops' i didnt get it quite right, but we werent reviewing it compared to other laptops but we did end up liking it and showing how it compares to others and how other similar ones are n essance doing the thing without saying your doing the thing
I've done content for the internet in the past for me and others, so yes I know there absolutely are shady companies wanting to do not tagged sponsored content and there are many content creators who will do the thing and take the money. But even when it's a big problem it's not as big as commenters everywhere make it look, people will say anything they don't like or don't agree is an ad for the conpany and the creator is a shill of "x thing" in every opportunity, it's just one of those things that people repeat all the time. I've taken my time to explain in some cases how things work and why in a specific case is clear it's not sponsored and people don't care, they will say I'm also part of it, etc. It's just ridiculous. And the not watching the video or just a part of it is completely true too. Most of the time you can read how the person didn't actually view or read the whole thing and criticize the piece just by what they think it is about and you won't convince them otherwise unless they get a lot of comments from everyone telling them they're wrong. People on the internet are weird, and even when there's some truth to the problem (which of course needs attention and regulation) you just won't convince some people that something they don't like is still valid.
Remember the report is from the EU, alcohol would be a big one as the legal drinking age is lower and there aren't as many restrictions on commercials/ads for it. I've even seen ads on Solitaire for alcohol in Germany, along with condom and sex lube ads. Personally, I think if a contract was signed/money exchanged hands with a company then it should have to be shown as a sponsored video. I've seen that little watermark in the top corner saying "sponsored video" on some videos, and nothing on some that were clearly sponsored, that watermark should be required on ALL sponsored videos along with the channel owner saying it is a sponsored video right at the start of the video. It really doesn't matter to me since I don't buy anything from ads or "influencers" forcing things in my face and down my throat.
The point of TH-cam and a lot of social media is to get a more ‘authentic’ take from someone who isn’t a corporate shill. I’m pretty confident that a lot of the major tech influencers are authentic like Gamers Nexus and Jerry Rig Everything. LTT has definitely scaled away from some of their original authenticity but still do well to keep themselves accountable to mistakes
I'm french and I'm not offended cause Logitech is Swiss 😂 But it's true, Logitech prices are high whether it's France or Swiss (I live in the borders).
What reason do we have to believe this business over any other? Either is today or 10yrs from now 9/10 slowly this business will follow the same path as all of the others. Some people change overtime change everyone ends up in the same place
Always remember Linus, some people just want to watch the world burn. They live to take a crap on anything, and anyone. Especially those who are successful in their chosen field. Many people don't want to rise to any higher level, so they simply work to pull others down to theirs. Haters are sadly, and pitifully, always going to hate.
would be awesome to see how your sponsered videos work like an actual break down from recieved the message to implimentation. Lots of people dont understand how it works and maybe some transparancy would go along way especially if you feel this pasonate about when people get it wrong. I understand you might not be able to disclose a lot of info but maybe how it works generically?
the sponsored influencer thing is a non issue to me, it's nothing new. the guy that sells you a real rolex on whatever beach on whatever holiday isn't selling. EVERYBODY knows it's not a real rolex, you might be able to fool 3 people in your life for a couple of days maybe and that's it. meanwhile big corporations get deals to have like just nokia phones in a movie or something, and it's all according to the rules it's all officially disclosed yet NOBODY knows about it. i don't know the actual reality of it all. but i worry a lot more about journalists just use information from terrorists as a headline overnight. I don't care if people get scammed by influencers because they will learn and distrust them. but what if nobody trusts the sort of "institutional/traditional information givers"? or are where there already? IDK
It is generally a sad situation, not only in that area. Every time you buy something online or offline, that is not a big name brand like Amazon, wall mart or whatever, the first thing that pops in your mind is "okay, how could this company/person try to scam me?". And the unfortunate truth, as also mentioned here, is: this is a valid step as it most of this world seems to be out to get you.
They aren't out to get you, they are out to get what they want with the least expense possible. Amazon only works because it needs trust to survive, the smaller businesses do too, if they care to continue, but there is so much selection pressure against small business today due to economies of scale and regulation that these businesses are so ephemeral it makes more sense to just discard them after the scam has run its course. What most people should seek more of is counterparty risk (someone else who pays you if the transaction fails) or validation through reviews not on that site that are somewhat curated (meaning the site moderates in a way that effectively prevents fake posts/etc.) Amazon is doing an incredibly poor job here, leaving some room for competition if a clever person can figure out a way to offer this.
i mean i know from personal experience in the camera world, alot of reviewers get sony products and they get blasting overpositive reviews on the sample they have and then sony just forgets you have this $4000 camera, or they pay for you to fly out to hawaii, for a press release. Also if you give a negative review on something goodbye free camera. X100VI for example has very minor improvements and actually has recieved negative reviews from the non youtube spaces, but youtubers are claiming its the best camera ever made. The trust is gone because once you give a bad review on a product you will not get any more free gear to review. hell i'm a plumber and im being flown to italy with room and board in a nice hotel to look at plumbing products at a plumbing expo, i can't even imagine what happens in the tech world.
I would much rather the government do some things to protect our privacy and stop the epidemic of data collection and mining and selling. I really don't care that much about embedded ads that aren't disclosed.
Jon Rettinger is the worst youtube for sponsored content. He maybe posts 2 videos a year where the entire video isn't sponsored from the maker of the product.
Check about the new Pirate game from Ubisoft. It's really hated among everyone and there are still people (influencers) who "like" the game..... It even gets positive revieuws from "known" revieuwers.
I suspect most of the resin crafters are sponsored or comped resin and other materials but don't say it. I was annoyed when Seinfeld's Cars & Coffee show got a coffee sponsorship in the 4th season without saying it. The b-roll suddenly features a lot of prominent logos of a certain coffee company.
The only gambling adverts I see are for rust gambling sites and I don't see how you can be playing actual rust and transition to talking about a gambling website without it being obvious it is paid.
texas is hell to me now and im disgusted at texas as well i was once proud of texas for what it once was now im just pissed and done with politicians and this stupid border stuff republics can go six feet in the ground im over them and the democractics as well
If you want to help, then name names! I'm tired of "we see people doing it but we won't tell you who!" You called it overstepping. Overstepping what? Call them the hell out! _You are complicit until you do!_
Whoa! When did the live action Beavis and Butt-Head come out?! Jokes aside, I enjoyed the segment. Happy to see MTV is back. Is Celebrity Deathmatch coming up next?
Vincent from HDTVTest does ads all the time with the disclosure hidden in the video description. People call him out in the comments and all he says is that he’s not violating UK law. Super scummy for someone who’s otherwise such a high quality reviewer
I think Linus gets pretty mad at things for no reason pretty often but him complaining about comments is completely fair, tech TH-camrs have by far the most smug comment sections.
I feel like linus and ltt has always been the reference in obscuring or dishonesty about sponsorship. ith opaque "this is frost impression" not a review etc etc. I by default think it's sponsored
Regarding what Linus said with the stubborn commenters calling him a shill, Linus actually brought the water to the horses and they still refused to drink 🤷♂ Not much else you can do
Clearly it was a slap on thw wriat because they're still doing it. If it's only a fine that doesn't exceed the profit then it's merely a cost of doing business.
I know this is an old video but I'll comment in case you get bored and see this. My "issue" with LTT videos isn't that I don't trust you it's that you optimize for the wrong end of the spectrum. I don't care to game at 4000 FPS on an 8K display. Realistically anything more than 30 at 1080p is just fine, I'm more curious about power efficiency, product circular life cycles, bang for buck, etc. The constant obsession with fast but who cares at what price/quality is pointless. Fast is good for labs, science, commerce, etc. Quality is better for home use.
Allow me to voice the devil on your shoulder. Ahem, "welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll if you're gonna be treated like cooperate shills no matter what, may as well get paid for it 😉"
I'm not a fan boy but when someone accuses you of taking money for a positive review you just need to respond that you wouldn't risk a X million dollar company for the sake of a Y thousand dollar review.
To the point of the Logitech / Intel sponsorship claims. Linus, what you have to realize is from our perspective we can't always tell. You know, from running your company, how sponsorships work and the steps your company goes through to be transparent. We don't have that experience. To me, the viewer, you claiming that ltt handles business properly is just like the ~500 (good and bad) European influencers claiming the same thing. We don't know you and your team personally. We can't see behind the curtain, and we don't heve the experience to understand even if we could.
If you don’t trust Lmg Ltt or Linus why are you watching? If I can’t trust the opinions of someone then I don’t consume the content. I guess unless it’s comedy/satire where the persons views don’t matter but anytime where even a bit of their opinion being part of it I won’t watch unless I trust it. If it’s a one off sure but then don’t accuse people of shit without proof and just be skeptical and go about your day. And these claims were ridiculous I hope they were trolling because they were so such incredibly brain dead takes it’s offensive to people in comas.
TSMC should get all the credit for the power draw of many low power Processors on the market. AMD, Apple, Qualcomm, NVIDIA. Only Intel uses their own foundries. Plus PC Elitists jump from Intel to AMD and back again. I remember the old Athlon days when AMD was “superior” to PC Elitists over Intel’s Pentium 4, until Intel released its Core processor. Intel would then dominate PC enthusiasts markets until Ryzen 3000 desktop CPUs shifted all the fickle PC Elitists back to AMD.
Kind of the other way around. They are influencing people and that's why they have the name. Doesn't matter if you don't like it or don't agree with it.
In other news: Politicians lie, sun is bright, Velma season 2 will suck.
Is it still coming out? Why?
Omg they're making another one? I really should have gone into being a Hollywood producer. They'll really give a job to anyone
@@tagg8233I get the idea from your comment that you don't know what a producer does. . .
@@dexterrityI get the idea from your comment that you go through life ignoring the intent of a person's statement to be pedantic 🙄
You're telling me Velma is getting a second season but I can't get a text back?
I don’t think anyone is surprised to hear this. It’s like trying to trust politicians to have your best interests at heart.
Correct.A lot of people have misconceptions about both influencers and politicians.
An influencers job is not to be an internet personality but to make you buy stuff and a politicians job is not to make good policies but to get re-elected
Both do what you think they have to do to an extent because it’s necessary but otherwise why should they bother
They just want to make money like the rest of us
Knowing that gives quite a different reference frame and you can make a lot more sense of why things are the way they are.
You'd be surprised to know just how many gullible and naive people are out there. Many readily give in to celebrity worship culture. Just look at fanbases of kpop singers, twitch streamers, instagram models, unhinged taylor swift fans, elon musk cultists, andrew tate etc. Their messiah can do wrong, ever!
Thinking we can’t have decent politicians is cancer and brain poison
you'd be surprised how many people blindly believe influencers. It's sad really, they don't even realize that everything they are saying is a lie.
@@Tabischan influencer's job is not to make you buy things. It's just to make as much money as possible off of being a known person on the internet, The easiest way to do that is to make people buy things, but that does not mean that is their job, just the easiest and laziest way to go about their job
People are cynical to the point of irrationality but then find themselves misled anyway as long as someone panders to their lifestyle or worldview. This is fundamentally why companies plow so much money into influencers.
Case in point: the Stanley on-the-road cup
Very well said
Sponsored videos always raise a little red flag in my head that bias or straight up BS could be present.
As it should. That's why the influencers not disclosing that the item or service they're promoting is sponsored is a problem.
Every TH-cam Tech Video has become alternate Advertisement for Products.
@@Makerr8 No, the red flag should exist regardless of what they tell you. Otherwise you are depending on rules that will never be perfectly enforced. You may even evaluate that disclosure means honesty, when it can only be a good signal for that in any way when it's not enforced. To enforce it is to nearly destroy the value of it.
The reflexive suspicion against LMG when they do disclose is not because of unenforced rules, but a broader breakdown in trust and social cohesion. This isn't driven by lack of regulatory enforcement, but by cultural shifts and greater awareness of dishonesty (and conspiratorial thinking) enhanced by the internet.
Especially when it comes to guntubers shilling shit like the Lie Power or the Hrvatski FAMAS...
As it should as according to Linus his words in this video they're not allowed to be critical, which should be "obvious" as the product paid for it, they are allowed to say no to the sponsor but unless it's atrocious I don't think Linus cares too much, the argument would be "oh people can make up their own mind, unless you are a r*t@rd"
Tom Scott's video on advertising disclosure is really interesting. He points out that influencers are held to a higher disclosure standard than traditional media. Also, I do recall Kim Kardashian being fined for not disclosing a beauty product post as being sponsored.
Kim Kardashian is a lot more visible than a small (or even large) TH-camr though.
Not to say it is impossible for it to be enforced though
You Really Think Someone Would Do That? Just Go On the Internet and Tell Lies?
Thats unthinkable, that could never happen
Yeah, are they not scared of the internet police?
It's a sure thing, Buster.
If Tom Scott is to believe, UK ad regulatory is a lot more tight for the broadcasters than for the influencers...
Other way around.
I thought it was the other way round, first thing I think of is obviously no TV station has to say the ads are ads or product placement is paid for explicitly like influencers with #ad or “this is sponsored”.
@@adreto2978 obviously no, but there are BTS regulatory rules for broadcasters, which is tighter. And not following incurs fine.
@@adreto2978TV broadcaster advertising is strictly regulated by both OFCOM and the ASA, whereas influencers are only held to account by the ASA (and the respective platforms don't care about rule or law breaking, let's be honest).
We live in a world where marketing is mostly laughable and "re-imagined." It is unfortunate that the consumer base has had to grow to those obvious conclusions unless somehow proven otherwise. BTW, I'm also beyond sick of the almost constant Gambling ads and promotions on almost every social media platform, including radio and TV as well.
Literally just the other day there was a channel that claimed they'd never lie about a product because they're built on the trust and support of their viewers.
Yeah I've heard that before.
Knowing TH-cam they won't add those, but one feature that would help a lot would be if a viewer left a comment, you could see how much of the video they watched and what parts. TH-cam already tracks it via watch time, so add those metrics to comments.
I'm actually surprised that this isn't already a thing. My only concern is that there night be some misinformation if somebody goes back in a video to rewatch a specific part and then writes a comment, so they'll show commenting earlier despite watching the whole video. The reverse of this is also true where somebody might skip to the end of the video to make their comment seem more important or pass some sort of filter. Regardless, I would still like to see that information. Watch time would be nice too.
@@MightyDantheman My idea was that it would be a similar feature to the comment hyperlink (where you can put a timestamp in a comment and TH-cam will automatically highlight it blue and take you there if you click on it). My thinking is that it would total the amount of time you were on a videos page, ie not actively watching another video. It would be positioned next to your name (presumably to the right) and when you clicked on it, it would show detailed analytics of what they watched and how many times. I can see how this could be a privacy concern, but there's a million different ways you could add the feature. Please reply if you have any questions/confusion/thoughts!
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Not just that but people can watch a video in another platform and decide to leave a comment here instead. I've seen a few videos on Twitter because they were premiered there but I don't really use the platform that much so I wait for them to be posted here in order to comment.
Something like how SoundCloud does it
Holding people accountable for things they say? On the internet?
It all starts with the name 'Influencer'. It seems that anyone nowadays with a few followers is automatically an “influencer”. What do 99% of those people influence? Just his/her own ego, I guess.
They are walking talking advertisements, of course they peddle bs.
11:20 Linus enters Louis Rossman mode! Go Linus!
Any time the tech reviewer is getting perks, i. e. “thanks to (brand name) for sending us (product)”, you can’t be assured that their integrity isn’t being compromised.
Thing is, the problem they're talking about is the number of tech influencers who *won't* say "Thanks to (brand name)" but will instead just act as if it's an honest, unbiased review.
No way, I'm absolutely shocked by this revelation! Next you're gonna tell me that political lobbyists don't have my best interests at heart :O
you're going to have to sit down for this one bud...
You can't even believe what you see online now a days, wether is a genuine opinion or an ad..
1:20 I recall some time ago on Polish youtube youtubers mentionting they can't show drinking alkohol because it's against a law. But i'd had to fact check this if it was and/or still is a thing.
"Influencers Aren’t Being Honest"
Ah yes, the floor is made out of floor
Oh no influencers are not telling the truth?!... Logan.... Yep most of them never do.
I’ve never really trusted anything any sort of “personality,” if you will, has told me about something and considering how much I hate governments, I couldn’t really care less if anyone discloses sponsorships or not. I’m just here for entertainment value.
I remember back in like 2010 people would get free products from Google to review them here on TH-cam. Was that true?
Being "guidelines" doesnt make it non-enforcable. It means they are even more free to litigate.
ACCC consumer guidelines led to steam paying 22 mill and implementing the refund system.
Here in Ireland a law was passed a few weeks ago where influencers have to pay taxes on any free items they received and any free items they have received over the years.
Gotta play devils advocate here and say that most of these undisclosed promotions seem to be targeted at either young or relatively new influencers. IE the people who won't likely just have a lawyer ready to explain contracts to them. Like back when youtube was like 'we'll take 80% of your earnings, its the best deal you'll get, trust us'. That and the common stereotype of influencers being charismatic morons (no, I'm not calling out *your* favorite content creator, more like the dime-a-dozen ones that get featured on ads on YT shorts/tiktok)...
Imo, there needs to be a dollar amount any social media influencer makes that requires them to become a media company. That would help at least some refulations.
There is such a gulf between people posting for their friends or for fun and those who make a career out of it. I do think it should be fairly high so as not to ounish small time influencers.
Well, Ryan's toys reviews disguised ads as sponsored spots, so the ftc was amazing at clamping down on the scumbaggery
Disguised ads as sponsored spots? Aren't they basically the same thing? Who mistakes a sponsorship for anything else?
In Germany there has been a wave of the German irs taking a closer look at influencers, maybe that's why they did that all of a sudden
The idea of "promoting this or that"... I mean if a person is drinking something or eating something... and it is seen... is THAT "promoting"... it's so absurd the standards for govt defining "promoting". It's idiotic.
Did we really need this spelled out in plain English? Watch literally any Hollywood blockbuster/ action flick. It is literally advertisement central. FF is literally just a massive dodge commercial.
People say that you aren’t disclosing because they know it bothers you. They laugh and say look am triggering you. You got to stop letting these negative people bother you. They’re trolling you.
esp[ecially when he says 'we arnt reviewing it or comparign it to other laptops...... , we jsut were testign to see and show how good it was or technoligy has come compared to other laptops'
i didnt get it quite right, but we werent reviewing it compared to other laptops
but we did end up liking it and showing how it compares to others and how other similar ones are n essance doing the thing without saying your doing the thing
Can confirm, making a developer/sysadmin angry is the last thing you want to do.
I've done content for the internet in the past for me and others, so yes I know there absolutely are shady companies wanting to do not tagged sponsored content and there are many content creators who will do the thing and take the money. But even when it's a big problem it's not as big as commenters everywhere make it look, people will say anything they don't like or don't agree is an ad for the conpany and the creator is a shill of "x thing" in every opportunity, it's just one of those things that people repeat all the time. I've taken my time to explain in some cases how things work and why in a specific case is clear it's not sponsored and people don't care, they will say I'm also part of it, etc. It's just ridiculous.
And the not watching the video or just a part of it is completely true too. Most of the time you can read how the person didn't actually view or read the whole thing and criticize the piece just by what they think it is about and you won't convince them otherwise unless they get a lot of comments from everyone telling them they're wrong.
People on the internet are weird, and even when there's some truth to the problem (which of course needs attention and regulation) you just won't convince some people that something they don't like is still valid.
AJ deciding to kill the stream WOULD'VE been hilarious, tho🤭🤭🤭
Remember the report is from the EU, alcohol would be a big one as the legal drinking age is lower and there aren't as many restrictions on commercials/ads for it. I've even seen ads on Solitaire for alcohol in Germany, along with condom and sex lube ads.
Personally, I think if a contract was signed/money exchanged hands with a company then it should have to be shown as a sponsored video. I've seen that little watermark in the top corner saying "sponsored video" on some videos, and nothing on some that were clearly sponsored, that watermark should be required on ALL sponsored videos along with the channel owner saying it is a sponsored video right at the start of the video. It really doesn't matter to me since I don't buy anything from ads or "influencers" forcing things in my face and down my throat.
*Does anyone honestly THINK that they are???* 🤔
The point of TH-cam and a lot of social media is to get a more ‘authentic’ take from someone who isn’t a corporate shill. I’m pretty confident that a lot of the major tech influencers are authentic like Gamers Nexus and Jerry Rig Everything. LTT has definitely scaled away from some of their original authenticity but still do well to keep themselves accountable to mistakes
Their followers absolutely do by default, kind of the whole point otherwise they wouldn't be influencers to begin with lol
Every major tech TH-cam channel that receives free or trial products uses them as an alternate means of product advertising for that Brand or company.
Yes, people are dumb. They arnt taught to think critically. Honestly i rarely fall for it but it has happened, so yea its a legit thing
@@tylersanders2388 that time is loooong gone :(
I'm french and I'm not offended cause Logitech is Swiss 😂
But it's true, Logitech prices are high whether it's France or Swiss (I live in the borders).
Rules without fair enforcement must be abolished. If you can’t enforce the rule, it’s a stupid rule
What reason do we have to believe this business over any other? Either is today or 10yrs from now 9/10 slowly this business will follow the same path as all of the others. Some people change overtime change everyone ends up in the same place
Always remember Linus, some people just want to watch the world burn. They live to take a crap on anything, and anyone. Especially those who are successful in their chosen field. Many people don't want to rise to any higher level, so they simply work to pull others down to theirs. Haters are sadly, and pitifully, always going to hate.
LMG really needs to play a manufactured white noise for the dead air, it's so unnerving, makes me think my headphones stopped working
the 'cool' moment is the best part
influencers not being honest? I'm shocked! oh no wait that's not true. I'm surprised it's not higher.
would be awesome to see how your sponsered videos work like an actual break down from recieved the message to implimentation. Lots of people dont understand how it works and maybe some transparancy would go along way especially if you feel this pasonate about when people get it wrong. I understand you might not be able to disclose a lot of info but maybe how it works generically?
No surprise here.
Man I love Luke's explosive laughter so much lmao
the sponsored influencer thing is a non issue to me, it's nothing new. the guy that sells you a real rolex on whatever beach on whatever holiday isn't selling. EVERYBODY knows it's not a real rolex, you might be able to fool 3 people in your life for a couple of days maybe and that's it. meanwhile big corporations get deals to have like just nokia phones in a movie or something, and it's all according to the rules it's all officially disclosed yet NOBODY knows about it. i don't know the actual reality of it all. but i worry a lot more about journalists just use information from terrorists as a headline overnight. I don't care if people get scammed by influencers because they will learn and distrust them. but what if nobody trusts the sort of "institutional/traditional information givers"? or are where there already? IDK
Influencer not being honest? Wow who would of guessed
It is generally a sad situation, not only in that area.
Every time you buy something online or offline, that is not a big name brand like Amazon, wall mart or whatever, the first thing that pops in your mind is "okay, how could this company/person try to scam me?".
And the unfortunate truth, as also mentioned here, is: this is a valid step as it most of this world seems to be out to get you.
They aren't out to get you, they are out to get what they want with the least expense possible. Amazon only works because it needs trust to survive, the smaller businesses do too, if they care to continue, but there is so much selection pressure against small business today due to economies of scale and regulation that these businesses are so ephemeral it makes more sense to just discard them after the scam has run its course.
What most people should seek more of is counterparty risk (someone else who pays you if the transaction fails) or validation through reviews not on that site that are somewhat curated (meaning the site moderates in a way that effectively prevents fake posts/etc.)
Amazon is doing an incredibly poor job here, leaving some room for competition if a clever person can figure out a way to offer this.
i mean i know from personal experience in the camera world, alot of reviewers get sony products and they get blasting overpositive reviews on the sample they have and then sony just forgets you have this $4000 camera, or they pay for you to fly out to hawaii, for a press release. Also if you give a negative review on something goodbye free camera. X100VI for example has very minor improvements and actually has recieved negative reviews from the non youtube spaces, but youtubers are claiming its the best camera ever made. The trust is gone because once you give a bad review on a product you will not get any more free gear to review.
hell i'm a plumber and im being flown to italy with room and board in a nice hotel to look at plumbing products at a plumbing expo, i can't even imagine what happens in the tech world.
I would much rather the government do some things to protect our privacy and stop the epidemic of data collection and mining and selling. I really don't care that much about embedded ads that aren't disclosed.
I recall them going after Pewdiepie because his sponsor info on Shadow of Mordor was below the fold. I could be misremembering though.
I don't think they won't comply... They absolutely should! But won't... Police needs to be involved.
Queue the Monty Python witch skit. 😂
Right after Luke got finished talking about how Microsoft is gonna get hit with some AI lawsuit I get an ad for Microsoft’s ai😂
Jon Rettinger is the worst youtube for sponsored content. He maybe posts 2 videos a year where the entire video isn't sponsored from the maker of the product.
Perhaps people are thinking, "If I cannot trust anything my own governments say can I trust anybody else? And let's snipe at them for it."
{o.o}
NO BEARD? been gone too long😂
Hmm yes, this floor is made of floor
Based on how bad and dishonest the fair phone review was
Ofc there is no trust in influencers
Check about the new Pirate game from Ubisoft. It's really hated among everyone and there are still people (influencers) who "like" the game..... It even gets positive revieuws from "known" revieuwers.
Linus is talking about dishonesty with paid promotions?
Well well well, how the turntables.
Pot calling the kettle black Linus!
I suspect most of the resin crafters are sponsored or comped resin and other materials but don't say it. I was annoyed when Seinfeld's Cars & Coffee show got a coffee sponsorship in the 4th season without saying it. The b-roll suddenly features a lot of prominent logos of a certain coffee company.
The only gambling adverts I see are for rust gambling sites and I don't see how you can be playing actual rust and transition to talking about a gambling website without it being obvious it is paid.
I need those Audio Technica ear cups....
Remember when influencer Linus wasn't being honest with his reviews?
WHAT ??!!
I guess the tech area is less affected, given the viewership usually knows a bit about the internet and what is going on.
texas is hell to me now and im disgusted at texas as well i was once proud of texas for what it once was now im just pissed and done with politicians and this stupid border stuff republics can go six feet in the ground im over them and the democractics as well
Its almost like something happened in the last 12 months that would of affected LMG credibility i wounder what that was?
If you want to help, then name names! I'm tired of "we see people doing it but we won't tell you who!" You called it overstepping. Overstepping what? Call them the hell out!
_You are complicit until you do!_
It seems like viewcounts are generally something like 10% real views if that.
Whoa! When did the live action Beavis and Butt-Head come out?!
Jokes aside, I enjoyed the segment. Happy to see MTV is back. Is Celebrity Deathmatch coming up next?
Vincent from HDTVTest does ads all the time with the disclosure hidden in the video description. People call him out in the comments and all he says is that he’s not violating UK law. Super scummy for someone who’s otherwise such a high quality reviewer
Only idiots follow influencers 😂
I think Linus gets pretty mad at things for no reason pretty often but him complaining about comments is completely fair, tech TH-camrs have by far the most smug comment sections.
Sorry LTT, we forgot how to read descriptions :(
If you make a video that looks sponsored but you got no money from the company could you use that as a tax wright off :) ☺
Wow Linus is RIPPED
he’s pretty big too, they do couple swaps with other rich people, i’ve met him once
I feel like linus and ltt has always been the reference in obscuring or dishonesty about sponsorship.
ith opaque "this is frost impression" not a review etc etc. I by default think it's sponsored
Regarding what Linus said with the stubborn commenters calling him a shill, Linus actually brought the water to the horses and they still refused to drink 🤷♂
Not much else you can do
Don't worry I'm sure the American influencers are more honest 😅
What are the French gonna do? Angerly surrender?
It's okay Linus the FTC here is such a joke that they might as well be putting out stuff that's only guidelines
Clearly it was a slap on thw wriat because they're still doing it. If it's only a fine that doesn't exceed the profit then it's merely a cost of doing business.
Shocking revelations I know
I know this is an old video but I'll comment in case you get bored and see this. My "issue" with LTT videos isn't that I don't trust you it's that you optimize for the wrong end of the spectrum. I don't care to game at 4000 FPS on an 8K display. Realistically anything more than 30 at 1080p is just fine, I'm more curious about power efficiency, product circular life cycles, bang for buck, etc.
The constant obsession with fast but who cares at what price/quality is pointless. Fast is good for labs, science, commerce, etc. Quality is better for home use.
Linus is at the point in life where is is or has switched from a young liberal to an older conservative.
Man, at there Linus made a huge Fo Puh
Allow me to voice the devil on your shoulder. Ahem, "welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll if you're gonna be treated like cooperate shills no matter what, may as well get paid for it 😉"
1:47 Your possibility of looking cool disappeared alongside the beard 😂 /jk
I'm not a fan boy but when someone accuses you of taking money for a positive review you just need to respond that you wouldn't risk a X million dollar company for the sake of a Y thousand dollar review.
This is obviously sponsored by LTT
To the point of the Logitech / Intel sponsorship claims. Linus, what you have to realize is from our perspective we can't always tell. You know, from running your company, how sponsorships work and the steps your company goes through to be transparent. We don't have that experience.
To me, the viewer, you claiming that ltt handles business properly is just like the ~500 (good and bad) European influencers claiming the same thing. We don't know you and your team personally. We can't see behind the curtain, and we don't heve the experience to understand even if we could.
If you don’t trust Lmg Ltt or Linus why are you watching? If I can’t trust the opinions of someone then I don’t consume the content. I guess unless it’s comedy/satire where the persons views don’t matter but anytime where even a bit of their opinion being part of it I won’t watch unless I trust it. If it’s a one off sure but then don’t accuse people of shit without proof and just be skeptical and go about your day.
And these claims were ridiculous I hope they were trolling because they were so such incredibly brain dead takes it’s offensive to people in comas.
What Linus doesn’t disclose is whether he keeps the products. Always think it dodgy AF, especially since they’re used to give to employees.
yes he does most of them, in a box stored backside,couple of times there were tours, like thousands of random stuff laying around.
TSMC should get all the credit for the power draw of many low power Processors on the market. AMD, Apple, Qualcomm, NVIDIA. Only Intel uses their own foundries. Plus PC Elitists jump from Intel to AMD and back again. I remember the old Athlon days when AMD was “superior” to PC Elitists over Intel’s Pentium 4, until Intel released its Core processor. Intel would then dominate PC enthusiasts markets until Ryzen 3000 desktop CPUs shifted all the fickle PC Elitists back to AMD.
don’t worry Linus you are cool
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Can we stop calling them influencers yet? it lends support to the idea people should actually listen to them.
Kind of the other way around. They are influencing people and that's why they have the name.
Doesn't matter if you don't like it or don't agree with it.
That is the problem Linus! PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT AND LOUD!!!!! The worst of the worst! Just ignore Morons!