What if California Was An Island?
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- Back in the 17th century the Spanish believed California was a large island simply because they didn't explore it. So what if in an alternate timeline, they were right and California was an island. How would this change history?
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AlternateHistoryHub What if the Chinese Communist Forces didn't win the Chinese Civil War?.
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AlternateHistoryHub Can you make a video what if Russia won the Russo-Japanese war and What if Soviet Union or China won the Sino-Soviet war?
What if the roman empire never existed?
It still can be an island. Everyone get your saws. We meet in California on Monday.
Daddy Donald lol
Yes please
Am in Canada tho
Do we need to build a sea WALL around it afterwards? 😁
No point if Kim Jong Un actually comes through and nukes California
Meanwhile in and alternate dimension
What if California was connected to the rest of America
Lol
Don't be an idiot, those alternate universes could be real, and they might be wondering the same thing...
Milan Milanović leave him alone
Milan Milanović u too.
In an alternate alternate dimension. What if California crashed into Earth.
If California was an island, I doubt the 2 mile cliffs would extend to the coast. There isn't much of a precedent on Earth for such stuff to happen. Plus, you have to factor in erosion.
In the past when continents split, it is believed they had really steep cliffs, comparable to the 2 mile cliffs. But let's say we ignore anything before the Jurassic Period on the account maybe the geologists didn't get their calculations right and focus on the primate era. We still have the Cliffs of Dover. You might argue that that's not as high, but it's basically enough to bar crossing the Strait of Cortez for a pre-industrial society. And even after humans get excavation tools, who's going to remove those cliffs to get a port when Sonora works just fine? So in then end, not much changes with the smaller cliffs unless there are footpaths through them at reasonable inclines for humans to walk.
@@alex_zetsu Well, going aroubd the horn of africa worked "just fine" too, but we still built the suez canal. connecting the island of california to the mainland physically, via bridges or anything else, would drastically improve on the amount of fuel being spent in oceanic transportation.
@@2DMax00 Oceanic travel is actually cheaper than truck if you're not in a hurry, but ship is slow I guess saving time is something humans like to do. But at least early on in the video, the things he suggested would still largely play out since until such a project is done, the cliffs are an effective barrier.
Who says that California would even have the exact same geography as real life, considering this video is literally about the opposite? If this video is based off of how the Spanish portrayed the Island of California, it's much more likely they would have portrayed the strait in between California and the mainland just as how it appears Between Baja California and Sonora, for example.
Yes but that isn’t what that areas geography is. That area where the strait is, is mountains and hills with high elevation so they would be cliffs. Plus the environment wouldn’t really change it would still be desert-ish because the mountains on California island would still block cool sea air from reaching the area thus stopping erosion from taking place with rain
AHH : what if california was an island
california fault line : hold my beer
fl00fydragon lol
Lol
Earth: Has seizure.
It’s impossible for California to become an island because the San Andreas fault won’t crack open, it would just move to the right. San Andreas will never happen.
Franklin Delano Donut jesus this vid was just for fucken funnnnnnnngogpfpdøsuaya.
Then the GTA V map would've made sense
The Iron Dictator lmao
The Hentai Man Yep, that too
The Iron Dictator so rockstar uses old spanish maps to make its games! Gotcha!
It also explains the read dead 2 map too
Thanks for doing the anime no sekai mod
But those cliffs would be a huge tourist attraction.
SagaHub Literally.
I'd definitely go see it.
+SagaHub
#1 suicide destination, for sure
C. Lamp lmfao yep
SagaHub I'd go
+C. Lamp
omg, you are right. There's no way it couldn't be.
I'd imagine people who really want to end their lives would probably even empty their bank accounts to get a ticket from all over the world to use that cliff, it would just be that special.
Alternate History Hub: “What if California was an island?”
The other 49 states: “So you’re saying there’s a chance?”
California: breaks off and turns into an island.
* 2 weeks later *
Bible belt: Hey wtf, why aren't we being subsidised anymore?
DC: Sorry, all those tax dollars are gone.
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@@tanzeel444 California. Tax dollars California doesn't support the US, all its taxes go to pay for its own social programs, that it cannot support, and those Bible states, also would have to supplement the largest states power grid, and clean water. They would all be off, as they would. California's GDP is high yes but none of that money actually supports the citizens of California, as it has the highest unemployment and homeless, California is a shit hole that cant support itself.
@@hybris8383 the biggest problem is majority of these people leaving bring their failed politics to the states they move to.
They try to flip states they move to to the same political problems that brought California to what it is now. Without the economy to sustain the policies.
@@tanzeel444 I love how you Californians desperately attempt to convince others that the existence of your state is actually beneficial.
You're forgetting how geography affects weather. Those seaside cliffs would get that cooling coastal current that would bring in rain and moisture. Nevada would have a "southern California" weather. The new wine country of America. Utah would have Oregon rains.
You're pretty right too by affecting weather.
And slowly changes if you think million of years before human arrival.
The Californian Island & Western USA would be greener than current timeline.
Now do "What if Australia won The Great Emu War?"
et 37 Y E S
There would be one less glorious meme
As an Australian I do indeed wish to see this.
I’m pretty sure the requirement is they “could” have happened.
Australia would be a Utopia
Would explain gta 5
And 4
but how does the city shrink
Johan Fausto you mean San Adreas,
Skeet obviously shark hacks
Gaming Master Anthony San Andreas had Las Vegas tho
If California was an island, then the US surely would’ve attempted a railroad/road bridge to it. Also, the transcontinental railroad would be a bit shorter, and end at a city along the coast.
Actually, I'll bet that the railroad would've gone to Sonoma or Washington.
Dude... Water would destroy those cliffs.
Yeah. The geography of California would be like Japan, and the now West Coast would have their coast flattened more and more.
HE SAID ITS FOR FUN DAMN IT
@@jakeantriasian2353 At least we need accuracy for fun.
Wouldn’t be that much of a game changer because the US is a pretty new continent (for the earths standards) and I don’t think much would change in its little time of existence
Thanks to constant erosion of those cliffs the natives (and then Spanish, Mexican and American settlers) could still get to California.
I can see a bridge being proposed between the isle and the mainland, but could you imagine what kind of undertaking that would be?
(Edit: Oh boy. While this has resulted in the discussion I was looking for, it seems y'all have missed what I was pointing out. Which was "How ridiculous would it be if someone suggest to build a bridge, and what kind of undertaking would unfold if they even tried to?". That's why I used the word "proposed". I was simply pointing out a humorous thought. But I am glad to see a general discussion on how it wouldn't work, and suggestions that work around the problem. Interesting concept.)
With 2 mile high pillars on a fault line? No... that's ridiculous. Plus, it's be like what 200 miles long?
OneManArmy Welp, they could always use nuclear warheads to demolish part of that canyon to level up the land, then you could build that bridge ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Then everybody who drives past would get a nice dose of radiation poisoning, along with everyone who built it.
BandidoTread198 We've demolished mountains before without nukes. We can do this.
Steve Larry welp, i included nuclear warheads only to fasten the proyect, but it could also be made with conventional explosives too
Man, I fuckin' love this channel.
Edit: I got an idea: What if William McKinley wasn't assassinated, or what if the Zimmerman Letter was successfully delivered?
John Spade don't we all?
Aaron Thomas Nice
You only got top comment because of that picture.
Reallifelore is better
same
You forgot one thing, Arizona would be jealous by California’s canyons
xD
WEST COAST? Did you mean: "Costa del Lex"?
He speaks English, Not Spanish
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It would be los santos
Joseph Stalin ha
Los Santos is a city. California would actually be San Andreas. Great comment though.
Joseph Stalin it was LA that came from someone who's never played GTA5
yea, Los Santos is huge and contains many regions of LA, from Malibu to further north...
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What about an unrealistically tall bridge connecting California to the mainland us
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That would be a logistical and engineering nightmare. A larger project than the panama canal or pontchtrain bridge. It would me the longest bridge in the world by a long shot but with the added problem of it being 2 whole miles above sea level to start with. The supports would be 3 or 4 miles tall and near impossible to create or transport until maybe the late 1900s to early 2000s. If there was to be a bridge connecting the island it wouldnt be made yet, at best it would currently be under construction
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More parents wouldn't drive their kids to Jake Paul's house.
Shookoo yeah something good for the world.
Lol
Maybe Jake Paul could accidentally see how long it takes to fall 2 miles.
Shookoo he'd probably just have a sanoran clone.
Shookoo it wouldn't be everyday bro kids are coming at his house
What if the humans won the great emu war?
Dumbo Octopus Australia would have conquered the world by now
Dumbo Octopus world peace
its funny that thats a thing
We would be on Mars by now
Utopia
California kinda looks like Japan
Not at all
It doesn’t look anything like Japan...
@The Road Warrior Are you using autism as an insult?
Making California an island would require more than just taking a swipe at the map with a blue magic marker and saying that area's ocean, with everything else the same. It would require major geographic and geological changes. In short, those 13,000-foot cliffs almost certainly wouldn't be there. What would? I've no idea. It could be anything from lesser (but still precipitous) cliffs to forests and beaches.
My point is not that this video is bad. Given the strait and the cliffs, Cody does a good job of explaining how things would be different. But declaring California an island requires so many assumptions in regards to geography that it's impossible to say, "That's how it would be." You can't even say that's how it would likely be. I could just as easily declare that there are those gentle beaches there, or that the strait is only a mile wide, or whatever I like.
As I said, given the assumptions he chooses to make, this is a good video. But they are assumptions, and Cody did choose to make them. If he'd chosen something else, it would have been very different. Say, maybe that happened in an alternate history!
In my opinion, 13K foot cliffs are utterly impossible. Why? Because of erosion. The massive cliffs would erode over time, to a flat coast. Same thing for the now West Coast. The geography of California would be like Japan, with mountains in the middle. They could've been independent for real because the natives could've kept an interest on it because of its strategic location between the Pacific and North America.
He probably didn’t pay too much attention cause, as he said, it’s so ridiculous.
You aren't allowing for the effects of erosion on the cliffs and the discovery of gold. The American merchant shipping would have moved thousands of people to the island of California. Gold fever will overcome a lot of obstacles.
@Stephanie Logan Being only accessible by sea doesn't prevent gold rushes from happening. There were multiple Australian gold rushes, after all.
Yes, it's completely fine to say the fault lines and geology shifted to allow this alternate history, but we still live within the realm of our our physical universe. There are plenty of examples of massive mountain ranges close to coast, e.g. Chile, Peru, BC and Alaska.
The GOLD RUSH would have to happen at a later date, though. Provided we stick to his specious assertion that natives can't figure out how to paddle their canoes from coastal Washington to coastal Oregon. Sutter's Mill was staffed by hundreds of Indians (natives) John Sutter had enslaved.
I’m sure there still would have been a gold rush because there is a lot of gold in northern Nevada
it would take thousands of years to erode those cliffs under the best case scinario. The cliffs of Dover were much higher in the past and today... they still _exist_ on a smaller scale.
Few notes:
- California wouldn't be COMPLETELY irrelevant - the central farm lands would still be vital to the nation's economy, but it would take a few more days to ship it around to the ports. (More profit for them, though.)
- Senora, being so deeply south and vital to international trade... Would its prosperity leak into Mexico? Would we see a more robust Mexican economy as a result, and different relations with the States as a result of that?
- Less important: Tourism would be much improved by the cliffs. You've got beaches west, redwoods north, mountains east, and cliffs hemming them in... Easily the most naturally-fascinating region. Probably would help the western desert regions by selling short puddle-jumps into California, because all the transportation and commerce splits around them north/south once you leave the plains.
Except those cliffs wouldn't exist. The only reason they "could" is due to uplift by forcing the land California sits on eastward into the greater continent. An island wouldn't have been driven upward like that by the ocean. And natural processes called erosion would've carved those cliffs back and downward over time. They just wouldn't be there. Unless some human (or extraterrestrial) force literally carved the giant channel out of the Sierra Nevada mountains, it wouldn't be the way it's toyed with as an idea in this video. And it's Sonora... with two O's.
We can live without californa
Plus a new trade route with north and central America
Damián "el Salsuero" lol you know NOTHING about formations in evolving geography, alternatehistory is correct in his assessment, or have you never heard of the white walls of england? Theres other examples but thats the most obvious one
No, Mexico does not have a more robust economy, because for whatever reason the people of my lineage (on my mexican side) have this super bad habit of screwing things up, Mexico has gotten alot of money before, hell after the mexican American war the Americans straight up paid ALL OF THEIR DEBTS, thats not a joke, they paid all of their debts then left the Mexico, after that oil started to become a big deal (not immediately) and Mexico was one of the best places to get it...and then the corruption started to happen, you people think the US is bad with corruption? Ha ha let me tell you a story, my grandmas dad was a very influential man in Mexico who saw a bright future for the country, now my papa never went into details when telling me the story but...from what I understand it wasn’t much appreciated when he disagreed with the other wealthy parties the Mexico who wanted power and he he lost things...like land...alot of it, confiscated by the government for...the “needs of the people”, when in reality the land was stolen by the government and given to the other wealthy people because...the other kind of influence (paying off politicians)
Also Mexico has decent coast lines on both sides of the country, if they were to pull their shit together trade would be very easy to access. Point being Mexico cant get it together, I don’t know why but they just cant, and not to get all political and stuffs, but yes i do think the wall is necessary, because it’s actually really bad over there...my great uncle (grandmas brother) was...made an example out of in Mexico City central by the cartel about 4 years ago....yes thats how bad it is over there
"Look at it, it's so ridiculous I love it! " That's one way to look at life x)
It would be named “San Andreas” and GTA V and GTA SA would have happened there
What if the oceans and land were inverted, i.e. land is water, water is now land.
Deserts everywhere
not suddenly
but always
Geography Now did a video on that.
What all though that sounds wonderful to me, i never thought there was enough land i don't think that could support large populations
@Stephanie Logan so welsh
Now I really want to see those 2 mile cliffs.
Mars had even larger ones, as does one of Uranus' moons.
This world is really amazing for Portland and Seattle.
I feel like, if we went with the "Spanish were right" scenario, wouldn't we assume the mountains would just turn into hills and then a flat coast like along the peninsula of Baja California?
What if the Holy Roman Empire united as one nation?
That's impossible, so maybe if they stayed together in the first place.
But it was united. During Ottonian times, HRE was pretty centralized, more so than France during whole Middle Ages. HRE decentralized with time, and by the end of XVIII century, it was the mess we think about when we hear about it.
Diana Pristavu R E V O K E T H E P R I V I L E G I A
you'd need to give a time period though. but I guess the most likely time for that to have happened would be if Charles V and the Catholics won the 30 years war. or at least a scenario where the Treaty of Westphalia was never made and the Empire got an official religion.
+You'reThatMantis
30 years war is too late. Even with Catholic victory, it would be impossible to hold all these states together. Reformation really divided the HRE on religious level, it would be easier to unite something that has no religious tensions -thus that uniting factor should happen before Charles' reign.
This was fun to watch, I really enjoyed this video
Rockstar’s San Andreas (los santos etc): Allow us to introduce ourselves
About those cliffs, they would have probably eroded/otherwise been destroyed by nature because of the weight.
It takes time to erode that high cliffs.
Angus Yang
The scenario is not if California spontaneously broke away, it's if it ALWAYS had been an island. There would've been time enough for erosion.
Yeah that's what I was thinking it would probably just be a normal coastline wouldn't it?
Overtime most of the east coast would resemble coastal Peru. And the area that in our timeline is the Colorado river delta is sufficiently flat for early settlement by boat, and has a geography that allows access to the rest of this hypothetical Californian island. Chances are, in an alternate universe, a major city would be built here for its strategic location.
Nye county Nevada which borders California has mountain ranges over 10.000 feet but the average elevation is just over 3000 feet . So where did they get those 13000 feet cliffs.
whats next? "if England was a city".
Gørl.
What if England wasn’t a city
Lol
Yes
They call that mortal engines
great vid buddy NICE :)
Sometime in this alternat timeline 20th Century:
“Sir, we Need a easier way to get to the island of California” “I know, we’ll build a GODDAMN BRIDGE!”
Thank you so much for collaborating with us! Keep up the great work buddy.
Bruh you have so much subs but still not replies
What if Anakin have the high ground?
Ummm, hate to burst your bubble but there literally is no scenario in which Obi-Wan DOESN'T have the high ground.
Later I will unleashed Drone missle to your trench Umi-chan Onegai, don't blow up Honoka-chan's house
Bolt Fantasticated There was one scenario, in a bonus level of the Star Wars 3 video game, where, like you say, Obi Wan had the high ground, yet somehow Anakin managed to jump right over him and stab him through the back. So, yeah, that happened.
Later I will unleashed Drone missle to your trench obi-wan had sand in his pocket so anakin was still doomed
Then he'd have *UNLIMITED POWER!!*
I love how the road trip is actually driving from around where I live.
Can you imagine the chase scenes in 80s movies ending in crashes off the cliffs?!
My money says the island would become a military base, maybe even this alternate universe's area 51. Those cliffs make for easy security.
In that case, I'd probably be typing this from Sonora, where I'd assume most Chinese immigrants like my parents would go to.
Kinda curious why you pick and choose which parts to be scientifically accurate. If Cali was a natural island it wouldn’t have gigantic cliffs along its coast. California would have a geography similar to Japan.
He said it was for fun.
Why ponder the way things would be when the outcome is easy and obvious? He's looking at something interesting and innovative to consider.
Depends on how the island was made. If it happened then it would most likely be caused by the fault lines, and if we look at the best example of a a rift fault, the East African Rift, it’s characterized by deep, flat valleys and walls, as if you removed some blocks out from the middle. Of course, it wouldn’t have those massive mountains there in the first part. In fact, there wouldn’t be mountains at all.
Yeah. Major mountains on the centre, however, the coast is pretty flat. Same for the coasts of Arizona, Nevada and all that stuff. Their coasts would be flatter too.
Who cares? It's just California, I would be happy if they were trapped on a island.
I guess those cliffs would probably erode pretty quickly if they really were 2km+ high.
In the alternate timeline, alternatehistoryhub makes an alternate timeline on what if California was connected to the usa via land
What about the Polynesians that landed in California and mixed with the native americans?
If the natives weren't there, California could have polynesian culture and would be like the US's New Zealand rather than Hawaii!
Evil Paragon 2 Hawaii is two time zones away from us, so it would be hard for them to get their still unless the islands drifter way off.
As I said, Polynesians in our timeline already landed in California and they mixed with the native Americans there.
Polynesians in this timeline would make it there and would likely be the only dominant culture for over a thousand years. That is longer than Maoris have been around in New Zealand!
eh, not really, considering they've also said the Chinese likely visited north america shortly after the Polynesians (basically being the 2nd people to reach north america), if anything the Chinese would have spread to the island. Or if you push a bit further the Romans even as they have found roman coins in several states including Texas, they even found Roman paintings that used ink made of pineapple and squash which were only in the americas.
Evil Paragon 2 ok, but the native americans would have still populated california. kody even said that coastland oregon was low enough to make landfall there
That's crazy as bro
What if Rhode Island was actually an island
Monster Ball Then they'd probably just call it "the state of Rhode".
Monster Ball or a road?
there is an actual Rhode Island. its just not the most populous part of the state
Dude i remember seeing your pfp somewhere "The adventures of the super idiot"
Can i have a link
It is in the Medertarainin.
With California being an island, it would have very interesting implications on the local wildlife. While it would still have a good chunk of the wildlife on the mainland North America, it's relative isolation would make the wildlife more unique.
And with you mentioning this here 2:04
it struck a kind of brain cord on me: IF the extinction of overkill on ice age megafauna was true (though I kinda doubt it to be so completely, but that's for another topic), then it would be possible if the ice age megafauna got there and the island's isolation made the tribes get there sooner, it could be possible for the megafauna to survive a bit longer than in our timeline.
But it could also mean that other types of ancient animals or animal lineages could've survived there as well and what kind of animals they are could affect it's imagery or even how people view the island (think like how kangaroos define Australia or how lemurs made Madagascar even exist in the American minds and get a movie XD).
*sees the cliffs part*
Whoah, with that the biology of the island would definitely be EXTREMELY different than the mainland in that case!
They should be called the Cliffs of insanity. You had one job!
I don't mean to be a party-pooper, but i just wanna say those California cliffs wouldn't existed. Even taking out the plate tectonics argument: millions of years of rainfall would have weathered it down to the shape of the modern day california coast - if not lower in elevation. Maybe in the southwest there would have been huge huge cliffs, but because the area to the north would've already inhabited it. If anything it could have become its own seperate ancient empire, and then who knows.
Did you watch the beginning of the video? Cody states that this video was just for fun and in real life would never happen due to geography.
Edfan 287 Well yeah but he's not saying that California being an island is impossible, he's just saying cody was wrong to estimate that there would be such huge cliffs.
and depending on how far the gap was between land, a bridge would have simply been built; Facilitating road transport.
Yeah, but he makes such a point of these unrealistic mountains, he shoulda really looked up why mountains don't grow that tall, and got them down and gone from there.
The ocean wouldn’t be eroding the land there the way it did in California so it wouldn’t be “just like or lower”
What if Germany never unified back in 1871?
What if the King of Prussia accepted the crown offered to him by the German revolutionaries in Frankfurt in 1848?
Come on guys, what if Germany was united under Austria.
One things for sure. Those Cliffs would be one hell of a tourist destination. Rock climbing, Cliff side hotels and helicopter rides. It wouldn't be the 7 wonders of the world it would be the cliffs and everything else.
Man this felt like yesterday. Can’t believe this came out 5 years ago.
One giant Hawai'i situation then. Entirely dependent on the mainland for economy, very high cost of living, probably stronger push for independence.
Nanna Leifa Finally, someone realize this.
Nanna Leifa finally someone realize this
Nanna Leifa and thriving native cultures and history!
Not necessarily. There could still be a gold rush in 1848 and California Island would still have oil. Areas like the Salinas Valley would still be very productive agricultural land. However getting oil and produce to the mainland would have to be by sea.
Yeah, the native and hispanic communities would have formed a strong identity
I think even when the Gold Rush hit it would be too strong for the US to hold unto with all the transport and military troubles, it'd be a floating fortress
My guess is that it would become a independent client state of the US much like Cuba was then
What if California was a city
Preston Garvey what if England was a city
Preston Garvey More things for you to mark on our maps.
Preston Garvey What if Preston didn't give a shit about settlements?
Let's try to refrain from making any "Another settlement needs your help" jokes.
The Crystal Gem that's gonna be difficult 😂
As a Californian I’m actually happy we were named after a sweet island from an Hispanic tale, that is nice to know.
Can someone help me find the song that starts at 3:46, I️ know the video has songs listed but I️ still can’t find it
Now, how about "If Scandinavia made an arms pact during WW2". Here is some things I feel could change how that would go:
1. Norway Sweden and Denmark work together to improve their military, fearing someone might try to annex them for strategic purposes. Be it Germany or England.
2. With Sweden's steel production, and with information about England and Germany's new tank production, Scandinavia quickly gains a reasonably big armoured presence.
3. With an increase in oil demands, Norway starts searching for oil much earlier, making this "union of arms" more self reliant.
4. With Denmark bordering Germany, they're able to gain some information, such as the plans to invade Norway and Denmark. This means they would be prepared.
The rest is up to you. Would love to hear how this change would alter how history goes. Maybe the war would end even earlier? Maybe Scandinavia would rise to be a global military power? Who knows? But it would be fun to hear.
That would greatly affect how WW2 happened. First, the Tirpitz would've never been stationed in the fjords of Norway, and that it would have helped protect British supply ships in the lend-lease program. It could have also been a staging point for D-Day, as it is bordering Germany.
Directing your attention to this suggestion is highly advisable for the success of the channel.
What if kiwis overthrew new zeland?
emu war 2.0
why the fuck would a bunch of fruit overtake a fucking state
Mic Clank it's funny because aussies (Australians) call New Zealanders "kiwis"
Doctor Jones no the animal
SaberVlogs lel
"California would be the second largest island on Earth, significantly smaller than Greenland."
Australia: Am I a joke to you?
Continent > island
Y E S
YEH it’s a content an an island look at New Zealand/zelandia
By your argument, Eurasia would be the biggest island
Kamryn Rattana boi Australia was declared an island and soon was a content and Held on to island at the same time never officially being declared no longer an is land your wrong afrourais would be the biggest not Eurasia cuz the Middle East lets Asia and Africa be connected by land so it’s afroeuraisa
He Mojave, near Yuma, is relatively low elevation.
Brawley, California is even below sea level.
So it is possible to place ports there.
So basically Los Santos from GTA V
Herr Kaese_Kuchen Because los santos is almost the size of greenland
Yes
Except poor yes
Yes yes i confused the city with the state
Do an alternate history of if the nationalist won the Chinese civil war
It'd be better. Just look at Taiwan under Republic rule versus how The People's Republic is now.
Taiwan wouldn't be pissed at the chinese
Taiwan China best China
Uhh, so, like, people flinging stuff and yelling profanities in Senate, massive dissatisfaction with government, filibustering in legislation and just as much problem with corruption as is in current China? I think you just made an argument in favour of the People's Republic.
I would imagine the California Gold Rush would still happen though, plus the California Central Valley would still be a massive Agricultural center for the rest of the US. I would think devising an easier way to reach California than a ferry trip would be a big priority. I'd guess some sort of Channel Tunnel would definitely be a highly desired project.
CODY! I'm surprised you didn't mention Vancouver Island (near me in Canada) in this scenario because this Cali Island TL is very similar (in terms of trade and port city importance-just LARGER) to what exists NOW. We have the huge BC Ferries fleet (plus Wash State Ferries) due to this so likely a Cali/Cortez Ferries might be a result of this TL
wouldn't the Mexicans just retreat to the island in a state of war? seems like it would be an easy place to defend from your geographical arguments..
Nah, the author of this video is heavily biased for the US because the is American, just check out his Texas videos
The US army would have still been far superior to the Mexican army geological fortification or not.
D Wilson with almost no ships on the pacific
All you need are row boats and climbing equipment. The Army has made do with much less.
D Wilson thats a massacre waiting to happen
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Me:oh
Do a backflip!
What if Yugoslavia reunited today. Can you do it please ? i love your videos also keep up the good work
I'm enjoying the fact that Vancouver Island is actually connected to BC in this "scenario".
California is an oil Haven that we barely tapped as their economy focused towards Hollywood and tourism. In this alternative setting oil would become it's primary economy it also would probably still focus on tourism for its beaches, base jumpers and hang gliding would be a big on the cliff side as well there could be channel races.
I think this California would be a mix between Alaska and Hawaii. California had *a lot* of oil back then, and in this day, there are many oil wells still operating. And of course, there was the famous gold rush in North California. In the alt timeline though, it's very possible that the discovery would occur later, much like Alaska. I could see this California as major tourist spot like Hawaii, with many beautiful beaches and mountains.
But yeah, the _huge_ downside of being separated from the mainland would be the very high cost of living, because of the Jones Act, places like Hawaii and Puerto Rico cannot trade with the outside world on their own, and every product goes to Alaska, Hawaii, and this new California must arrive from the mainland. This probably wouldn't sit well to the Californians, so there would've been stronger push for independence than our timeline.
California's economy mostly relies on agriculture I believe and other stuff not hollywood
Mela Pelas No, it is not. While California is the biggest agricultural state in the US, it's only account to 2% of state's GDP. Finance, Real Estate, Business sector, and Governmental jobs contributed much more. Arts and Entertainment surprisingly less than 5%.
UHmm, silicone valley honey.
gillecroisd 92 blah blah blah into the void
As a Californian who doesn't want to be irrelevant, a few things I would like you to consider.
#1 what about blowing up the cliffs and using the debris to make a land bridge, with a suspension bridge spanning the now narrow path.
#2 what about the gold rush? It would spare some population increase.
#3 California is still would be a tourist attraction. Notably my home City San Diego, beaches, wonderful climate, diverse biomes within a short driving distance.
#4 California is still would be a useful Naval Base. Perfect natural harbors.
inland harbors as well
1. That sounds expensive. 2. What if they don't discover gold there in the first place? 3. Indeed. 4. Correct.
MrRyeguy0 ahh, agree!
MrRyeguy0 well ok then, but then arizona or new mexico and nevada would have all the population instead of cali
Why "but then arizona or new mexico and nevada would have all the population instead of cal" what's your reasoning? what do they have that would get the population instead?
2:35 LOOK! THE CLIFFS OF INSANITY!!!! LOL
We’re forgetting one thing about California, Cody: California would still boom for one reason: GOLD.
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The United States ran out of Destiny to manifest, so they're looking for more.
*HAWAII*
*CUBA-*
Wait, Spain owns Cuba.
USA: Well blame something on them and go to war!
Also USA: What should we blame on Spain?
Again, USA: Let's blame the Maine on Spain!
So they blame the Maine on Spain.
Yay, another Wurtzian!
Yeah but why Maine?
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Thanks.
Wrong video
Do a video if Spain was still under Muslim control or if Muslims never conquered Spain.
That'll have negative effects on European colonization and Europe as a whole, a muslim Spain would possibly cut Italy, southern france, and any other mediterranean nation from exiting the mediterranean sea except for other muslim nations. This means that France, the UK, and the Netherlands would be the only European nations colonizing, and these nation's power combined wouldn't be enough to colonize as much as Europe did in our timeline did. The middle east would also be a colonization competitor, nations like Andalusia (muslim spain), Morocco, and Tunisia would start to colonize other parts of the world.
Portugal would most likely not exist as a nation, and the age of descoveries iniciated by the portuguese and built upon the other countries of europe would be delayed.
It would take Portugal aswell, and because Portugal invented or went to Asia and bought most navigation devises, this would not stop the discovery years but slow it down alot(maybe like 100 years)
If Muslims never conquered Spain, Spaniards wouldn't have white-to-olive-toned skin. They'd just be regular white. They'd also be more Germanic, because Visigoths.
Uncle Sam Do a VIDEO CALLED NUKE UNITED SATES OF AMERICA
I thank they would build bridges to continue the interstate high way system especially if you consider minack bridges in Michigan on the I 75
A really interesting video. I feel like there would be two scientific differences tho. 1. Cliffs that high would most certainly collapse, so I don’t think that issue of isolating cliffs would be quite as prevalent. If anything the rocky sea shore and slope of rubble into the sea from the collapsed cliffs would make the Cortez strait unwieldy to navigate. 2. You describe the new west coast as a desert (like Nevada Arizona etc) but in this case it’s connected to the ocean directly so I would think it would be more fertile. Certainly still desert in some areas, but the coasts I would think would be more inhabitable and green. Thirdly what about the gold? Certainly the Oregon trail etc would be completely different and getting to California would be harder, but the motivation of gold would still be there.
What if england was a city
It's not a city.
It's *my* city.
Leave. Now.
Fuck I just commented this without seeing this comment and now people are gonna say I stole it even though I commented it before I saw this so now imma drive myself into depression and end my miserable life.
If California was an island, us Arizonans would actually be able to enjoy the beach without having to travel to Texas or... California
I'm pretty sure that there wouldn't be enough land to make an Arizona. From what I saw of that map, and considering the mountains, your area would be too low in population. It would probably be part of New Mexico or Sonora, your other beach destination.
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That country song about having oceanfront property in Arizona would suddenly mean something completely different.
It would still be a Desert tho, 100 plus degree weather with ocean front humidity would be sweaty balls city :/
Animal Pack and you wouldnt be jealous of us floridians
Digging tunnels and building miles-tall bridges would likely become common place, with 2-3 such bridges or slight-sloped tunnel roads, and wind power and water power would be used to make elevators to carry goods with up-and-down. The industrial revolution would likely replace those elevators with more efficient versions, or even have elevators for entire trains or parking buildings, to get all of those up and down at the same time. Not only that, but tethered airships/blimps could be used to carry goods between the two continents, because building the towers for the tethers and the tethers themselves might be cheaper than building a bridge of the same length and heights. Though, eventually, bridges would be built, too.
Expensive? Yes. But it would make California's mountain ranges a lot more hospitable. And even the indigenous people could use sticks and rocks to dig tunnels, to connect the sea level to the habitable lands, starting from the shore. So an artificial shore might get built out of wood and rope in early times (including ancient times), only for it to be replaced with cement and steel thanks to the industrial revolution. Not only that, but people might intentionally use the power of tunnels and flowing water to collapse the northern tip of the continent into the sea/ocean, to partially block the water to make it calmer, or even to make a dike which to later be reinforced by underwater cement. Even partial dikes (not reaching above the water level) would decrease the amount of water which makes it in from the north, which could allow the south to be more easily diked, to make it habitable.
I have seen this map in person... even some of the earliest maps of places like the Bay Area and of the west coast... quite fascinating
that said, I'm not sure the cliffs would be nearly like you put it. If anything, it might be more similar to Big Sur, just with less trees, and more of the Sonoran Desert feel. Quite possibly it might even resemble Gibraltar strait, with tall steep mountains on either side, and a way through them, and places to set up a port along the coast. Assuming this strait is as wide as the Gulf of California, taking away our beautiful Death Valley and Mojave Deserts, then going north on the east side of the Sierra Mountains and possibly thinning out at certain regions, but not too much (say the thinnest region is where Bishop, CA sits currently), and then turning towards the coast at Portland, it is a given that much of the mountain ranges would be drastically different. Given geological time and the rising and lowering of sea levels, there is bound to be some terraced action going on (look at the region south of Santa Cruz, there is a lot of terracing due to sea level difference throughout the millennia).
then there would be interesting conversations about ocean currents.... do the cold waters of alaska split and move south along the strait? do the warm waters from Mexico move up the strait? how far? is the strait largely brackish water???
Assuming the thinnest part is where Bishop lies, is it possible to build a majestic bridge there? Kinda like the bridge in Istanbul?
So would songs be written about Sonoran girls instead?
Smeetheens They would also be more pretty has many would be partly Mexican. Also Florida might get more attention along with the Caribbean and Central America in general.
LMAO
+Marylandbrony Also Washington, although it would probably just be called Oregon in this alternate timeline. Would it be warmer or colder due to California being an island? I'd guess warmer, but I'm no meteorologist.
"Sonoran Girls" doesn't have the same ring as "Californian Girls" does, though.
Would the Beach Boys even exist in this alternate timeline?
What if New Zealand or Australia rebelled and became an axis power?
Well then...
I suppose Japan could be more focused on either Central Asia or the US? With the help of its' ANZAC buddies?
They'd both surrender before even being invaded due to the logistical nightmare of US dominance in the pacific No oil, no farming, no army, no food, etc.
The emus would rebel against the fascist government.
I may not be from California, but I have to quote the Heavy from TF2: “I fear no man, but that thing... It scares me...
"What If California Was An Island?"
Project Wingman Players: It's An Island.
Reminds me of Vancouver Island between Washington and BC, which is a huge island
Then it would be surrounded by water
I know this about geography but I can't help but think what would the floura and fauna and the environment be like on The Island of California would it be the same with just a few tweaks and changes or would be something completely different if anyone know's or has any ideas let me know in comments I'd love to hear your thoughts
The most important thing about those massive cliffs is that a bunch of people would definately try and hang glide across the strait of cortez to the mainland.
Dude stop being lazy I wanna hear about plate tectonics
SylenDraws well it is alternate history hub
Go to PlateHub
The channel is called Alternate HISTORY hub.
Wouldn't a California island with huge ass cliffs also fuck with the weather patterns?
bruh
What if Yavin 4 was destroyed by the Death Star? What if the Death Star was never created? What if Anikan Skywalker never existed?
It would be simple, because none of those things ever existed in the first place
Go to Star Wars theory and ask on that channel
robot 1435 what if obi one didn't have the high ground
Who's anikan?
ur-86 Obi-Wan always has the high ground .... from a certain point of view
So can you explain to me how you got the rationale for 13,000 foot cliffs? The highest point in all of Nevada is 13,000 feet so I don't know how the entire shoreline suddenly spikes up that high.
Also, if California's tectonic plate hadn't collided with the US, a large portion of the mountains of northern and central Nevada wouldn't exist, and the elevation would be much lower...
Hurricane Connie was the first of three hurricanes to strike North Carolina in 1955. It formed on August 3 in the eastern Atlantic Ocean, and killed three people in the United States Virgin Islands while passing nearby. Connie reached reported maximum sustained winds of 120 knots (140 mph, 220 km/h), making it a Category 4 hurricane, before it weakened and moved ashore on August 12. It tracked north through the Chesapeake Bay region, and was later absorbed by a cold front over Lake Huron on August 15. The hurricane caused around $86 million in damage, and at least 295,000 people nationwide lost power during the storm. In North Carolina, the storm killed 27 people. In the Chesapeake Bay, Connie capsized a boat, killing 14 people. There were also 4 deaths in Washington, D.C., 6 deaths each in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, 14 in New York, and 3 in Ontario. Connie was followed days later by Hurricane Diane, which caused $700 million in flood damage.
what if south America never split from Africa
Megaman Picachu basically a bigger africa
What if "The Thing" had escaped from Antartica?
Ian Kinley the thing?
Ian Kinley What’s that?
SFA44 From tbhe movie The Thing. It's a shapeshifting creature
It would probably suffer the same fate as Calvin from"LIFE": Several nukes to the face off-screen
Not a genwunner watch The Thing 1982 greatest movie ever.
I was thinking more of a thick California river making valleys.
It will explain the lakes!
Well we could have under sea tunnels just like in europe or a massive bridge spanning the distance could be built plus artificial islands could also be used between to help span the bride or tunnel. Maybe we would have high speed rail as well, Lost Vegas could be built along the coast or be located somewhere else and new cities could pop up along it which don't exist in are world. A version of the gold rush could have happened in which dynamite and massive mining construction could have been done along the california coast and mainland coast resulting in coastal cities and towns popping up, then later with modern construction tech the coast lines could be shaped for better use.