*Steven kills jasper and is a dick to everyone, has a messed up scene with white diamond, turns into a monster* Fans: Oh he's sad so it makes up for everything!
As mentioned in my own comment, Danny Phantom's My Bother's Keeper did a MUCH better job at handling depression and mental illness per memory than this did. Yes it's handled in one episode, but Danny being able to bring HIMSELF out of his funk is just so empowering. "I'm tired of you dumping on me. And I'm so tired of dumping on MYSELF. Jazz never did that even when I was mad at her." That line still sticks with me after all this time.
Steve was never asked to risk his life, the gems in fact did not even want to take him on adventures, he demanded to go to them, in fact nobody ever asked him for help, he always got into the affairs of others.
I wonder what god of therapist he has Therapist: alright what’s bothering you? Steven: my mom is from a group of genocidal tyrants and she died when I was born she technically became a part of me and my friends died multiple times and almost died multiple times and I almost died many times and I had to forgive my genocidal tyrants because I’m good but my mom’s evil older sister is bad so I feel not good
Why didn't they do a 40 min finale like the actual show's finale? It would fix the pacing issues and let the characters actually try without resorting to a hug...
Love your vids man. One day you’ll be complaining about how the third adventure time reboot shouldnt have been live action, and I’ll totally be there for that.
Omg I love this comment "the third Adventure Time reboot shouldn't have been a live action" and I don't know why. It just feels like a perfect joke about how things are currently with reboots and it'll probably be silly like that in the late future hahaha :)
People Talk Alot Danny DeVito’s role as Jake was the only well-cast role tbh. But the cg for when he stretched was awful. Doesn’t work in a 3D setting...Danny DeVito in a dog shape will never stop haunting my dreams
I liked the hug, not because of the hug but because of what it represented :) The hug itself isn't what bought Steven back, it was the fact he spent so long hiding that side of himself out of fear he would be abandoned for not being 'classic Steven'. The hug showed him that even in his darkest moment, when he became the evil monster he thought he was, they refused to abandon him. It was a 'we have seen the worst part of you, but we still love you' moment. Before the breakdown, no matter what support they said, he would reason to himself that they're only saying that because they don't know the monster he is, but after there was no way to tell himself that. Yes, the hug was cheesy, but proof that they still loved him flaws and all is exactly what he needed at that moment.
This! All this! The hug represented more than that, Look at what Monster!steven is doing when he first transforms, he's not stomping around the town, he's slamming his head into the hillside and grabbing at the ground like he's going to fall over. He's not going on a rampage, he's having a panic attack. He reacts violently to the Gems attacking him because from his point of view it's become a sell fulfilling prophesy and he has become the monster. The Hug represents the fact that they will love him no matter how he changes and will never see him as a monster and that's what brings him back. It might have been a bit rushed, but Wow was it powerful for me.
@Rob i'm sorry you feel that's true, but people who are willing to stick with you through thick and thin are out there, it just takes time and communication to find them.
kel poole love the way you addressed his behaviour as a monster. That absolutely clicked with me. I saw myself in it a little, when Im at my lowest point. And when garnet hugged him i felt that was the exact right move. You need someone who looks past your outward behaviour (especially with how more violent and angry it looks than its supposed to be.) and realize whats going on inside and provide you with the love you need. I cried a lot and im sure 50% of that feeling came from relating to this with my own experience with mental illness. Dont know why saber wants monster steven to stomp arround gozilla like its not what the message was... idk I felt monste steven was handled exactly right.
I was actually pretty disappointed at the fact that they didn’t show Jasper all that much. I actually really like Jasper and her character had so much potential, and so much room to grow but they just kept pushing her off to the side as much as possible.
I definitely agree that the whole Monster Steven thing should have been a two part episode like him rampaging and them trying to stop him and them (with help from Connie) finally realizing that all Steven needs is a hug, some love, and someone to talk to
@@SirGarmaples I think the show did the best they could with the resources they were given. Cartoon Network already planned to pull the plug on the show back in 2016 and Rebecca Sugar had to convinced them extend the final season and produce a TV movie, which took place right before Future. CN agreed to 20 episodes of Future and that was it. I think overall it was all fantastic.
I just feel like the final 2 episodes of future needed 15 more minutes each. The pacing leading up to the final 2 episodes was amazing, but the actual end was just a little rushed
I felt this way too, like, Steven had already known and heard that everyone loved him already. He already knew all of that. This series was about inner demons, so I dont think him knowing he's loved by others was enough to "resolve" what he was going through. But at the same time, I'm not sure how they could've done that. And I've seen others say this isn't a "resolution" but just the beginning of him getting better. I just wish we could've seen, somehow, in his head, what he was going through during the monster episode. Maybe they could've used white diamonds power to their advantage. I'm not sure. I think if the episode had been longer, it would've felt less rushed.
I connected with Steven very heavily. I’m a lot like him, very empathetic and I deal with other people’s problems more than my own. When my depression hit... it took 7-8 years before I actually got help. This isn’t because I believed that the people around me didn’t love me, I knew they did and they told me so, I was sick... and hated myself... and wouldn’t allow that love to truly touch me. Plus being sick in front of other people is worse than being sick alone honestly. What Steven received... is what I needed. To be sick and actually be showered with love and understanding rather than “talk to us” and “tell me what’s wrong” and “you’re gonna be ok” and “we’re worried about you” ... those things didn’t help me and they didn’t help Steven. He had to break down for everyone to understand that this wasn’t about their feelings but about Steven and his feelings, not until they did that was he able to start healing.
I personally viewed the show as Steven knowing he has a very good support system but he also emotionally felt like he was only valued when he could help them in some way. The final bit where all the characters are all crying and blaming themselves is how ALL of Steven’s emotional heart to hearts go. Yes, they are connecting, but it is because Steven is acting as an emotion sponge for the other characters to grow and connect with THEMSELVES. It is never presented the other way around and that is why Steven could not make the emotional connection that his family was there for him even though he logically could tell they were. I think it made the show even more complex to depict this difference.
I think that the amped up crying is supposed to be ridiculous. Because it is ridiculous that they would wallow in self pity while their friend is suffering. That was Connie’s whole point at the end.
@farmerdane12 They show Steven becoming a huge monster, but there wasn't really much affected by it. The solution was expected, but anticlimactic because there was no rise to the end beyond running up and hugging him. The result was a scene that was needed, but technically could have happened even without him transforming.
@@Surkk2960 they did the exact same with White Diamond. They show this amazing terrifying villain, she nearly kills Steven and then "I am a child, what's you're excuse?!" And White Diamond blushes and the Diamonds become pathetic aunts. It's sad because the Diamond 'arc' if you could call that 20 seconds that, really ruined the show for me and for years it's been my top favorite show. Then there was Steven shattering and bringing back Jasper. Made the problems even worse. The times when the show is good it's one of the best, but the times when it's bad, it takes down everything with it.
I thought if Jasper had stayed shattered, THAT would've been a very heavy, very satisfying end to her character. Sort of a, "those who live by the sword, die by the sword", and I imagine when Steven opens his hands, we just see Japer's shards floating in the water. THAT would've been heavy, and made more sense for his breakdown and monster form later, because I just eyerolled when she suddenly reformed right away. Know What I Mean?
I completely agree with you. Future was about Stevens powers becoming destructive as he deals with mental issues, right? Would've made perfect sense that he loses his healing abilities temporarily. Maybe they become destructive instead, like how he made those crazy plant Stevens that were pretty chaotic themselves- imagine Jasper does reform, but as her corrupted self instead.
@@hung9839 OR, maybe when Steven goes to Homeworld, he brings the shards to Yellow Diamond saying that it happened in an accident (which he doesn't elaborate on, for obvious reasons), and when Yellow reforms her, Jasper reacts the same way she did in the show, tho gloating about Steven's strength to the Diamonds, therefore revealing it was him, maybe?
I totally agree, or at least keep her shattered for a little longer. Like bruh why did you only let me panic for 2 seconds. LET ME PANIC FOR 2 EPISODES.
I’m a little sad that an era of cartoons I and many loved is coming to a close. Yet I’m willing to look forward for the future... ...As long as Mao Mao gets confirmed for season 2. If not, Cartoon Network is dead to me.
CN is circling the drain these days. (Yes I know it's been said before) but this time it's really happening. And unlike last time they probably won't get a reprieve. Streaming is both better and "stealing" (maybe poaching is a better word) talent. I'd be shocked to see them around in 10 years. I'd say if they're still around in 5 it would be a miracle.
I feel like the finalies biggest enemy was...well two enemies, time and budget, Rebecca sugar confirmed she had Invisioned more but that CN was kinda pushing her to be done and get it over with...an unfortunate reoccurrence for this show, which is why if you watch them in order they can seem so....misplaced. it's like CN could never decide if they did or didn't want the show and gave the creators those "Steven Bomb" things but other than the first 2 seasons i don't think the show ever had a solid set schedule to air it seemed like it would just kinda come on whenever and i think that's why it felt like the show had no identity
Exactly, Cartoon Network is quick to use Steven Universe to tweet about how inclusive and supportive they are of trans people, yet they made everything horrible and inconvenient to the crewniverse. Rebecca Sugar had to work with sticks and glue to make this series even *have* an ending.
FishFossils oh please Cartoon Network has nothing to do with it steven universe the future just has poor writing decisions due to the angst bullshit that people are eating up and guess what most people with actual trauma and mental illness aren’t buying it and it’s so ironic since sugar herself should know better also if it weren’t for Cartoon Network this show wouldn’t even have a movie
raze2012 I love korra huge fan but korra sucked because of the love triangle bullshit that the writers for some reason where still addicted to in season 2 so yeah that’s the real reason behind korras problems also over the garden wall and infinity train a bunch of mini series exists
exactly, but early episodes had decent writing and it went some where, last season and this new series wanted wrap up everything so fast, seriously? i see how a lot of small kids were turn off by this show, its boring to them, clearly see this was cartoon for older audiance
@@kyotheman69 The writing is poorly coordinate imo. Many of the scenes just feel like the creators use the show to vent over petty situations of their past
I thought the hug was sort of more of a confirmation. Like, they’re saying “you’re not a monster, and we know you’re hurting, so you shouldn’t be afraid to reach out to us and we’ll help you no matter what you did.” That’s why when Steven breaks down when he turns back, it’s sort of a “I’m severely mentally ill and I need help” type of cry, rather than “I’m so happy everything is resolved” cry. Not trying to sound rude, just my viewpoint!
At first I thought the hug was just nonsense and a bad way to end that episode so quickly. But then I read a IG post talking about the same thing. The hug was something more. Steven literally was having a mental breakdown and a hug and kind words was the only way to help him. I'll send yall the Ig link. The person goes into more details and information.
I will say: if steven did destroy the town, then he would have felt even worse and taken much longer to leave as he works through the guilt of actually ruining so much and actually working to fix the town as well as little homeschool. I would have liked to see his new powers as a kaigu but the town being safe lets him move out and not have anything hold him back emotionally or physically.
I honestly feel like he thinks he’s a monster. But he isn’t trying to hurt anyone or anything. So he thinks he is a monster but he doesnt have a goal or motive to destory. So he kinda just stagnant.
I actually liked when the diamonds cried making it all about them, then Connie eviscerates them. she had the most important message, it's not about you right now. The diamonds reminded me of all the self-centered people who take tragedy and make it all about them, and not about the person going through trauma. Like Facebook users. Or the parents of any troubled teen, who get so wrapped up in asking where they went wrong as parents, they forget to help and love their kid.
They should've actually had them seriously reflect and show remorse by making it unintentional and less comical. Especially Spinel, although she was only in the movie, she should know how it feels to think the worst of herself and how it felt when she started feeling neglected after she undid the drill. Connie being hurt and showing actual emotions could've also made her calling out the diamonds more meaningful. It's not a bad concept at all, just executed poorly.
@@msleahb12 I have to disagree with you. As someone who works in a mental health field this actually portrays very well how people make a situation all about themselves. They had lost sight that Steven was in pain and had turned into a "woe is me" kind of person. I dunno, as someone who see's this kind of behavior a lot it struck a chord with me.
@@dragongirl89115 That behavior isn't unrealistic but considering they were supposed to have changed, they should've taken this more seriously. They corrupted and shattered millions of gems and were working to fix that along WITH their communication and capability to consider others, but their beloved Steven just corrupted and it feels like they haven't evolved past the movie.
It's not unrealistic, some people when they find out a loved one is hurting will feel like they did something to contribute to it and will blame themselves. Is it the right time to do so? No, but it does start their proverbial ball rolling on their own self-reflection. Connie was the one to slap them back into reality, not all cases of someone blaming themselves for anothers tragedy don't have that person to snap them out of it.
Mc Fuckity I mean she basically totally unrealistically healed and gave Steven the terrible advice that he can just not have bad thoughts if he really wants to. It’s normal to be angry! You can’t just stop feeling these emotions. You just need to learn how to deal with them.
We Bare Bears just isn't a good show, it tries to hard too be ”relatable” but just comes off as cringe. Like the anime crap that they force down your throat. Also I hate baby bears, god they're annoying.
I'd love the hug if the Diamonds weren't in it. Because two episodes ago we saw how just being around White could induce a panic attack! Because they're all a primary source of his trauma, so physical contact from them is a terrible idea! If they had contributed to Steven's healing by learning to stand away from him, and acknowledging his TRUE family, it would have been a great end to their arc. Instead, even though they're sincerely worried about him, it feels like they're just trying to fill the Pink-shaped holes in their lives.
Yeah I can agree, honestly just have the hug be with The Gems, Connie, Craig, and possibly Spinel(I mean I think her hugging him wouldn’t be bad as the diamonds doing it).
@@wiwitutsu2175 just bc it didnt end in some epic fight doesnt mean it's dumb when someone is going through a lot of stress and trauma something they need is a hug from the people that love them
The Crew behind Steven Universe said they wanted to do a lot more with Future but they were really limited so they had to rush some things which is really unfortunate 😔
TheTrueTerrydactyl the reason why Future has its problems is because of rebeca self inserting her therapy into Steven universe especially when it mostly doesn’t make any sense
do not blame cn, blame sugar for not knowing how to tell a damn story, the development of this show is horrible and is full of plot holes, sugar had time and only had filler. SHe had about 200 episodes to tell what she wanted to tell, there are shows that with less than 30 episodes tell better stories than this.
@@EXMAXPOWER Cartoon Network is quick to use the series to tweet about how inclusive and supportive they are of trans people, but they made everything terrible and inconvenient for the crewniverse. Low budget, random hiatuses, zero structure. All problems that were outside of the crew's control, yet they're constantly blamed for it.
I hate when creators use this excuse as they clearly had enough time for a shit ton of filler. They also had the same problem in the original series so it's really just them being bad writers smh
This season wasted a lot of time. Every time something is about to happen, the show backpedals and says “it’s ok” or “nevermind” or “leave me alone”. It dilly dallies about, but doesn’t let the moments build on top of each other. The best it gets is how Steven proposes to Connie but she tells him to slow down, which leads to him having gem-anxiety attacks prompting Connie’s mom to screen him for PTSD, which leads to Steven hanging with his dad but realizing his dad unwittingly sabotaged his childhood; all leading Steven to go to Jasper to learn some resilience because he’s tired of being coddled, but then it goes too far and he ends up killing then resurrecting Jasper which prompts her to become his follower. That’s 4 episodes of solid story development; and then Steven pulls the plug and goes to talk to the Diamonds, and the whole thing with Jasper’s worshipping him as a diamond, and with his dad’s shitty parenting, gets dropped and the show’s momentum is set back to zero, so for the part where he becomes super-happy and then becomes a monster feels very rushed and forced because it wasn’t using the pre-existing momentum of the story. Like, this whole season, it’s like a car going from 0 to 60 mph; then suddenly is stops back down to 0, and then out of nowhere the car jumps to 190 mph. The pacing and sense of character progression keeps jittering all over the place which means it doesn’t hit as hard as it ought to. Also it’s bullshit that the Diamonds are included in the group hug. They Tried To Kill Him. Numerous Times.
It would have been better if they could have spread the story out over multiple seasons. Unfortunately, the jackholes at Cartoon Network forced them to put it all in one, and even denied them an extended "special" like the SU finale. =/
@@JamesPolymer SU had more than enough seasons to work with. It boils down to crewniverse not being able to pull the trigger when it counts. It's like they're afraid to tell the damn story and procrastinate or sabotage the pacing, only to panic to get to the finish line, where a steady hand would've had no problem with the same runtime.
@@samwallaceart288 Yes that's true, but that was the original series; I mean _Steven Universe: Future_ was only given a single season to cover the entire story. That's just not enough time to properly explore how someone deals with PTSD, even if the episodes had all been laser-focused with no filler material. They didn't even get a 40-minute finale to work with, for Pete's sake. (If they could have saved & combined the last 4 episodes into the finale, and used the entire season leading up to it to advance the plot with no filler, it could have at least been _decent._ )
This is exactly what I thought!! And the ending + I Am My Monster was SO underwhelming. Like ah yes, group hug, everything is fixed”. Huh?? And then the last episode was so bad, just Steven running around and panicking because the gems weren’t sad. What??
I feel like the way monster Steven went out was fitting. Purely because monster Steven is supposed to be a manifestation of depression, self loathing, and mental illness in general, and when you see this kind of stuff happening to the people you love, you aren't supposed to handle it with a closed fist, but with open arms.
@@Mpeace777 show they care and try to stop him from doing something that can and will hurt himself and others? I think it's fine, sometimes it takes a slap to refocus on the bigger picture.
I honestly really enjoyed the final. I cried during the hug. I'm very sympathetic and can easily put myself in others shoes. The hug really broke me down because you can see he was trying to stop and everyone was breaking down. I dont know, I just loved it entirely.
This is quite literally how most main characters of kids cartoons would realistically react mentally to having to constantly be in life and death situations. Props to this show for adding in some realism
Personally with me, Change your Mind had the most impact on me. Especially with the animation at the end by James Baxter. I just didn't feel it with this final episode. However, the conflict with Steven and all this rage inside of him has to be the most teenage thing I've seen in media. I myself feel like a monster, sometimes. Surely most people have, but that's the thing about teenagers, they try to hide their problems and conflicts from their parents or adults because they don't want to be ridiculed or in Steven's case, he didn't want the gems worried about him. In his mind, he wants everything to be perfect, and you can see this in the Steven Universe Movie too. Anyway, tl;dr Steven Universe Future is a great example in media of how teenagers bottle up their emotions.
@@ZaijahZea thank you! I looked it up after reading your comment. That's interesting, I had no idea. I really like the episode where we learn that he got his name from a "games" and "bookstore" signs.
I thought Future was a continuation of the series just with a different name and that it would go on for a few more seasons. I was legit surprised to find out one season ended the entire show itself. Like, I was looking forward to more seasons of the gems clashing with the Lapis's, Jasper, White diamond in the intro where it looked like some new massive evil would come, how they'd confront gems who enjoy hurting or destroying, etc. I was hoping we'd explore the colonies, and get a closer look at homeworld's everyday society. I thought we'd explore Volleyball's past, allow her to develope as a character. I'm legit so curious about Pink Diamond as this violent, angry child, it's an interesting aspect to her past that I wanted to see more of and not in just random lines like, "oh she was violent." And I thought we were gonna explore Greg's basckstory, I was honestly so interested but they made it about Steven and I just felt kind of cheated?? I get he's the main focus but Greg's story needed it's own episode(s), you don't often see serious cartoons, especially ones about family, talk about how it's ok to distance yourself from those who aren't there for you despite being blood related or people you've had history with. I wanted some sort of exploration on how it feels to be Greg, not only about coping with learning his wife's past, but also coping with learning about how the woman he fell in love with and married looked completely different than in her Diamond form. That's another sort of conflict that should've been discussed- sounds petty but imagine finding out your spouse was once this violent person and had to undergo extreme plastic surgery decades after you thought you knew them. And maybe I wanted to see Spinel react to Connie and having an episode focus on her dealing with the feeling of being "replaced" (romantic or not). And also more on the Lapis, Peridot, Bismuth dynamic, fleshing their chemistry out instead of putting them in the side saying "ok, their arcs are finished." I will say I LOVED seeing Steven become angry and seeking Jasper. I don't think him being with her was completely useless, he sort of learns how to allow himself to feel anger. I mean sort of, they could've explored it and said more than just "anger = violence = bad". My opinions may or may not have anything to do with me enjoying it when a kind character snaps due to their own inner turmoil :X /it's sum gud shit/. Imagine bringing Lapis's rage into it especially with Jasper there, that'd be kind of difficult to accomplish but would be so fascinating. Also, the Bismuth-Pearl thing took me by surprised and I loved it. It's lowkey and sweet, gives the whole feeling of "starting anew." I'm glad they finally added that Ruby and Sapphire are not always garnet and had their own lives. That was a major criticism of Garnet I had. I loved her and enjoy Ruby and Sapphire but I didn't like how they fused permanently and unfused unless due to dire circumstances (or Steven's birthday). It seemed less like a symbol for marriage and more like your identity is only defined by being being in a relationship- That Ruby and Sapphire as indivudal characters didn't matter especially when they couldn't handle being apart without some sort of conflict between eachother in the past. And while I'm not a massive fan of Connie (I don't hate her), I liked the conflict she and Steven had to solve. It was a little weird but it was new and it was interesting. Steven Universe is a very fasincating, pretty show but very flawed in handling its fantastic premise. It really had the potential to be an amazing show with the right set of writers. It never reached such as level but it did very good. I find myself wishing there was more to some of its stories. Idk I ramble, I like the show and the ideas they explore but I wished I took advantage of a lot of ideas as well.
Don't blame this on Rebecca; the execs at Cartoon Network limited the show to a single season. They also denied her any extended "special" episodes like the original series' finale.
I mean, of course they hugged him. He felt like a monster, fighting him would just increase that feeling. And I know that it probably would have been cool to see him rampaging, but by keeping the conflict on the beach it makes it clear that the issue is between Steven and the Gems
Not to mention think of how bad Steven would feel if he hurt anyone or destroyed anything in town as a monster. It would go against trying to convince him he's not a monster.
I think the hug doesn't work because just before it was just a freaking SOB FEST of "oh III hurt steven, no IIII hurt steven" it was just soooooo weird. And it doesn't help that the diamonds just SWITCH like a DIME either again off screen.
Optimal Ghost i think the hug was fitting. The hug wasn’t just a hug, Steven was essentially having a panic attack. The hug was to make him see that he had people (or gems) there for him. To make him see that he wasn’t alone and people loved him. The hug wasn’t meant to fix everything, and it didn’t. That’s why even after he changed back he was still distraught. Still hurt and crying. But the hug was the first step needed to give him the motivation to help himself.
@@optimalghost7899 They where making it about themselves yes, but some people who find out someone they love is hurting they will blame themselves. Connie was smart to remind them this isn't the time to do that and they did put their feelings aside. In my personal life my parents have blamed themselves for how I am today but know that that isn't what I need to hear when I am having mental breakdowns. But they feel they did have a part in how I turned out due to how I was raised.
Just gonna say my opinion. Steven Universe was more about our mental problems, accepting ourselves and etc. That's why I think it ended with a hug, bc Steven needed that. The shoulder to cry on. Steven U was about Steven being a gem, Steven Universe Future is about Steven being a human with feelings. Great job anyways!
Like Sparks. I think it should've ended with steven becoming a monster and do what people actually do in real life. The cause chaos towards their surroundings. He could've went to town destroying some buildings and the gems (idk) would try to calm it but it doesn't work because of his anger. (Some people are just too angry that they would need to be alone..) So, Connie comes in, walking and looks up seeing steven as a monster, destroying the town and starts to cry and saying stop to Steven. Steven would accidentally hurt Connie and would look back to what he's done. Seeing the problem he's caused, he turns back to human and runs towards Connie to see if she's okay. She would be severely hurt but would hug Steven. Connie would say some lovey dove speech and Steven would start to cry and hugs Connie.
@@tomasramirez2914 but we forgot that they are like ten of these immortal beings Gems who can do some shiz with magic. I think it would be rad that we saw this Godzilla Steven running around and just smashing everything,but Steven was scared and confused about himself,not angry at other people
How Steven Universe Future was created: Crewniverse: * having finished SU out of breath * How...how was that? Rebecca Sugar: * takes a long drag from those old 20s cigarettes * Again, but with more depression
I think the fact the diamonds having that crying moment and blaming themselves. Was just a good moment to acknowledge how some people make the situation about themselves thinking it’s gonna help the person whose hurting when it’s not. There are people like that, but I think Connie saying “it’s not about you right now” was just to resolve it
Blame cartoon network for how rushed this season was. They expected 2 seasons but cartoon network only gave them one. They could only cherry pick important stuff for stevens development and couldn't stretch as much as they wanted. Still, glad Steven got a therapist.
@Kitty Fo the show isn't as much "filler" as people say. It's either character work or lore work. It's just that CN were such jerks about the schedule that any non lore episode felt like we were cheated. My totally anecdotal proof, I got my wife introduced to the show right around the time of the Pink reveal. She was binging it like crazy, 4, 5 episodes a day, and loved it. She only got frustrated when she got caught up and felt the pain of all the fans. In short, Blu Ray sets are gonna be dope
99% reused animation 1% plot. 78 episodes and not a single plot episode and 60 episodes were repeats of older episodes TIME was not the issue the 10 minute shit is only on the creators they decided on that and this is only the first season the rest of the season were MORE of that. This wasn't slice of life when it focuses on scenes typically scene as padding in most shows and just DRAGS them on and on and call that a show that is called a waste of TIME and money.
As soon as they realized that it was only gonna be 1 season, they should have SERIOUSLY started trimming the fat. You wanna show us Steven having a mental breakdown as the final arc of the show? Awesome, but don't go off in different tangents that you never intend to pick up again or have almost nothing to do with that. You could have cut out Bluebird, A Very Special Episode, Steven Tag, the episode where we meet the other two Lapises, Greg's Childhood, etc. Hell, even Cactus Steven could have been cut or reworked to better fit the arc.
@@blackgemstone801 It was filler. We know next to nothing about the history of the Gems and the history of the alternate Earth the series takes place on. There were also many unanswered questions like what is in Lion chest or what is going to be done with that Lapis Lazuli that is destroying planets. The show gave way to many episodes to the largely irrelevant townies. As a result, many character arcs the Crewniverse likely wanted to do were unfinished or unsatisfying. The Diamonds and Spinel for example had their entire "redemption arcs" off-screen. Jasper was poorly handled. We never see Pearl completely move on from Rose and get with someone else. Also many of the previous conflicts were pointless as shattering is not longer an equivalent to death for a gem. They removed the consequences of shattering to "redeem" the Diamonds and because they don't have the guts to kill off anyone. There are a lot of other issues with the writing of Future and the overall SU franchise. You really can't blame CN for anything because they gave the Crewniverse almost a decade to work with. Most shows on CN don't receive 7 years to work everything out.
It was meant to be a jab at narcissist family members that try to make the victim's problem about themselves, it looks ridiculous and overdramatic because that's exactly how those kinds of people look like when they do that.
+MalDambão That's what I thought too but then seeing characters like Garnet or Pearl react in such a way was odd because its not their nature to behave like that, that they're more mature when it comes to relationships than maybe the Diamonds who had to learn how to be loving rulers recently.
The hug was a little cheesy but it made sense, thats what he needed. I also dont think the hug fixed everything, he stopped being a monster but he also went to therapy for months after we just didnt see it. Also I dont understand why people dont like/get why they all cried and blamed themselves? The point was to show that if someone you love is hurting, yes you may have caused it but it is NOT the time to feel bad and make it about you. Thats exactly what Connie said like right after that scene lol
I'd replaced the hug with White Diamond's mind powers with the Crystal Gems joining in communicating with Corrupted Steven with they are their for him only this time White, Blue and Yellow admit all of their mistakes, how it caused indirectly everything that happened, promising even more that they will change for the better and they will never abandon Steven like they had abandoned Pink. The rest of the Crystal Gems then say what they said in the scene, though Bismuth and Lapis say more. As Steven comes to his senses due to their words, he is able to speak again while transforming back to normal. And for the final act that will heal his corruption, it will be Connie and Greg be the last who will speak to him that they will be there for him just as how he has been for them. Greg tells that he's not a monster, hes his son and hell support him no matter what. And this is where Connie and Steven's first kiss happens, finally transforming him back to normal.
@@Pablo360able do not blame cn, blame sugar for not knowing how to tell a damn story, the development of this show is horrible and is full of plot holes, sugar had time and only had filler. SHe had about 200 episodes to tell what she wanted to tell, there are shows that with less than 30 episodes tell better stories than this.
@@EXMAXPOWER not everything in life has to go by your rulebook, steven universe may have had filler episodes where he only hangs out or something, but that's the point, Steven may be a gem, but he is still a kid
@@mustardwombat3464 Steve is a kid, like 96.5% of the protagonists in the cartoons. what kind of excuse is that? There are countless shows that had less than 26 episodes and told their stories in a better way.
Correct, the crewniverse wanted at least two seasons to tell the story properly, they had to work with sticks and glue there, they didn't have a choice.
would you have rather they beat the shit out of him and left him more damaged? Do you wanna take it up with Rebecca Sugar, who literally used this show to reflect her LIFE? (meaning this moment could have very well happened to her, so saying it was disappointing is like spitting in her face)
Ok first, calm down. Second, she said herself that she and her team did not plan for an epilogue series. It's just sort of something that she had the opportunity to do. Third, I'd have liked more of an actual conflict, yeah because these are characters. Characters that don't have to completely and accurately portray real people. I doubt Sugar has been to space to meet the Diamond overlords if you really want it reflect her "life." The ending was disappointing. I have no issue in saying that.
I mean, I get it. BuUuUt- Steven thinks he’s a monster, and most people want the gems to fight Steven I’m I am my monster. But, it’s kinda bad for Steven, he thinks he’s a monster, and if the gems fight him, he’d think he’s more of a monster lol
Then, it should have been written better. Like, it sort of makes sense that a stupid hug would solve all problems because he's suffering emotionally and he's distraught and blah blah blah. It's like the WHOLE season was leading up to this amazing climax and the most of the last 5-10 episodes just flopped so badly. Like he said, it could have been handled SO much better. Maybe it's because they only had 12 minutes to write an entire climax, but then they should have cut out a lot of the pointless dialogue. Like Saber said, I also thought the whole "it's my fault, no it's MY fault" was really dumb and out of place. They should have cut back on the bad dialogue to maximize on the climax
This isn't a case of bad writing. This is a cas of some not understanding trama. Rebecca Sugar said this represented how she felt when she experienced serious trama in her past. All it was doing was trying to tackle trama realisticly.
@@johnnieedwards3171 This isn't a realistic show, though If this was a slice of life show, then it would have been different and would have made sense. But, a show about powerful alien beings? Ending a GIANT moment with a hug? Eh Cheesy, stupid, and just unsuitable
Now let's see what Cartoon Network got for 2020: Continuation from the 10s: -Infinity Train Book 2 -Ninjago -Apple & Onion -Craig of the Creek(Underrated) -Victor & Valentino(underrated) -Mao Mao:Heroes of the pure heart -Adventure Time -Thundercats Roar(i don't wanna talk about this show cuz 2 controversial) -DC Super Hero Girls(FORGOTTEN) -Scooby Doo and guess who? -Transformers:Cyberverse Teen Titans Go!(Probably will end..just wait :D) Coming to the 2020: -We Bare Bears prequel(rumor) -Another Ben 10 movie - Elliott from Earth
Maybe it's that I have PTSD and recognize Steven's breakdown as a gem version of a panic attack, but I like that he calmed down before he did too much damage. Also props for them saying he got and is continuing therapy!
This decade was full of shows that I will always remember and seeing it end makes me sad. I have hope that 2020's shows will be just as good, hopefully better!
The conclusions that this show took is what turned me off. There were stakes...but it was always solved with "We're friends now!" They purposefully went out of their way to NOT let Steven make the hard, ultimate choice. EVERYONE COMES BACK when they're shattered or bubbled! Each conclusion came down to "Let's be friends" or "Hugs fix everything". Kind of a shit lesson, if you ask me.
Yeah it's why I quit watching at some point. Like it's fine to not be serious like that but if it's never going to commit then why put the characters in these situations?
@@pastel_rosy_cheeks8084 I don't think it was bad and you can like it if you want, nobody can take that from you. That said for me the constant tonal shifts ruined it for me as a whole. I'd argue that it had some of the best episodes in animation if only it was more consistent and had more direction.
Time really does go by fast. It's hard to think Steven Universe has come to an end. I remember watching the Episode "jailbreak" seeing the "Stronger Than You" moment and instantly loving this show. This show has done a lot for me, for me personal, it made me have a renew respect for the new shows to come out of Cartoon Network. Steven Universe I have said constantly has "Code Lyoko Level Quality" which I mean by that is like the Cartoon Network French import of years ago, it means that an animated Serise achieves at, Being Different from its contemporaries, Pushing Boundaries of Animation in an emotional, artistic and writing Performance than It's contemporaries and for being Special in many ways. Steven Universe achieves and succeeds at this in every way shaped and form. This show made me also gave me a second chance to "Adventure Time" a show that I never liked until realizing that if it wasn't for Rebecca's involvement with that Serise, it wouldn't have led her to route in making this show come true, so I have to thank Pemberton Ward for his masterpiece that led to Direction we have today. It also made be open minded and give a chance to all CN shows, I have grown to love like O.K KO Let's Be Heroes, Craig Of the Creek, Summer Camp Island, Victor and Valentino, We Bare Bears and Infinity Train. So, I want to take this time to thank everyone Involved in this Serise: First and Foremost: Thank You, Rebecca Sugar: The Hard Work, Attention to detail and leadership, is amazing, she broke the glass ceiling as being the 1st Female Creator in Cartoon Network History and you help me expand my pallet of quality animation, You made me grown my imagination. From the bottom of my heart, Thank You for Imagining and Creating this masterpiece. Ian-Jones Quartley: Great Man, also an amazing talent animator, He also would create a "Code Lyoko Level Quality" with O.K K. O Let's Be Heroes, thank you for creating a fun, cute and amazing show and for your contributions to SU. To all of the hard-working members of the Crewniverse: Rebecca said it best "THE CREW MAKES THE SHOW!!!" all of you have always delivered the best and your contributions for the last 7 years will be loved for years to come. Aivi & Surasshu- the composition these two made is beautiful, the high quality of music they delivered the past 7 years is amazing and thank you for some of the great music and what music they work on in the future I look forward to enjoying. The Voice Actors: Zach Callison: He is my age, He is 22, and he's Performance as Steven was amazing and he is an amazing Singer, I happy that now he is pursuing and growing his music talents outside from the show, I see him having great success after SU, and I wish him the best. Thank You for being the voice that is Steven. Deedee Magno Hall: The Motherly performance she displayed as Pearl always fantastic, she has made us laugh she has made us cry. Thank you for being an amazing Pearl. Michaela Dietz: An Amazing Personality they forever brought the amazingness of Amethyst, being able to show Humor and Sarcasm, but also show the Feels on the characters insecurities, that is amazing displayed of emotional heartfelt talent and thank you for being great embodiment of Amethyst. Estelle: How Much More Can I already complement for someone who before SU has displayed at being an amazing Singer, Songwriter, Rapper, Producer & Actress. There is no one who was ever best to be voice of Garnet than Estelle, thank you for being a voice to amazing character like Garnet. Shelby Rabara- Come On, I have to give praise to the voice of a character that went from being the one that i disliking and evolving to become the best and my personal favorite Crystal gem from the entire serise, there are huge majority of SU fans that when it comes to favorite gem, 100% it's Peridot, Peridot is Awesometaculer, thank you for providing the voice to Peridot. To every voice talent that have been on SU: Charlynn Yi, Erica Luttrell, Tom Scharpling, Grace Rolek, Matthew Moy, Kate Micucci, Susan Egan, Jennifer Paz, Kimberly Brooks, Uzo Aduba, Patti Lupone, Lisa Hannigan, Christine Ebersole, Dee Bradley Baker, Sarah Stilles, Crispin Freeman, Sinbad, Nicki Minaj, AJ Michalka, Cristina Vee. Every Voice Actor Who Was On SU, In A Small or Reccuring during the show's 7 Year run, Your Preformances werw always the best. Also, I will Thank the Fandom, Now the SU Fandom I been given mixed opinions On but what Fandom doesn't, I will be honest that for me personally I have had Positive Interactions in this Fandom, I am Grateful to be involved in it for the past 7 Years. In Conclusion: Yes the show is ending but Happy Ever After Never Ends, someday we will see Steven and Gems again, maybe in a Graphic Novel Serise or even as HBO Max Miniseries (I wouldn't enjoy that, but I would understand if it happens) and even not involving SU, I'm looking forward to whatever Rebecca, Ian or Other Members of the Crewniverse will create. Thank You, Steven Universe This is the best show on Cartoon Network since Code Lyoko. We Will Always Be Your Family.
I mean, the hug was exactly what Steven needed though. It would have been cool if the confrontation had been dragged out longer and you got to see more carnage and cool stuff goin' done, but that's exactly what it would have been: dragging it out. It would have been COOL filler, but it still would have been filler. Steven was having a mental crisis and the best way to push past it in the moment was the simple assurance that everybody he loved was there for him and wanted to help him. You might say that it could have been interesting if it took them longer to reach that conclusion, but I don't think figuring out what Steven needed was necessarily the hard part-- it was getting Steven to _listen_ to them and stop avoiding the issue, and nothing forced that to happen more than Steven physically turning into a kaiju sized abomination. A _literal_ Godzilla Threshold, as it were. The Diamonds and Spinel sobbing about how _their fault_ it was was definitely weird, though. Like I know the idea was that it was _supposed_ to be melodramatic, because it was supposed to highlight how it wasn't actually accomplishing anything and was borderline a selfish thing to do at that juncture and they might have even been faking it on some level for "reformation cred", but it still came out of nowhere and really clashed with the rest of the episode. Not to mention all the Diamonds suddenly having their regret dialed up to 1000. Like I guess Steven turning into a monster was the straw that broke the camel's back, but none of them really seemed _all_ that broken up about any of the stuff they did before.
See, you call it filler, but I think that kind of filler is necessary. If you resolve something too quickly or too easily, some people feel that, in the end, there wasn't any agency or brevity to the situation. A bit of tension building and extra happenings inbetween help solidify the concept, give it weight, give it presence and make it much more satisfying to resolve. If every time someone turns into a giant monster it can be solved with a big hug, then the IDEA of someone turning into a monster isn't scary or threatening since it can be fixed quickly and efficiently without much happening. Know what I mean?
@@Rohtix I think you meant to say gravity instead of brevity, but yeah I get what you're saying. I guess what I'm trying to say is that as cool as it would have been to give some more pomp and circumstance to Monster Steven's whole biz, it was more important to focus on what had to be done. A scene where Steven's lashing out ended up damaging some of Beach City (I don't think he would have rampaged, necessarily: Monster Steven only really became aggressive once the Gems were actively spurring him on to lure him where they could restrain him-- before that, him smashing his head into the cliffside, and latching onto the side of the mountain and roaring, seemed more like him just flailing in the throes of his breakdown) and the Gems tried to hold him back (not actively FIGHT BACK, that would have been a very irresponsible and counterproductive thing to do since it would only solidify Steven's belief that he was a monster that needed to be dealt with) would have been a much more satisfying way to build up to the eventual solution, but I think in the end it came down to them just not having enough runtime and wanting to zero in on what was most important. _Maybe_ they coulda sacrificed an episode or two from the first half to stretch the conflict out, but... idk. At that point you're getting more into the real-life aspect of the storytelling, that being the limitations imposed by factors outside of the writer's control, and given how pretty much every episode in the latter half of the series contributed directly towards the ultimate arc of Steven's downward spiral, it would have been really odd for one or two of those episodes to have come out before the mid-series hiatus.
The end of the era also means the end of my childhood. All the cartoons I’ve watched from my childhood till college time are all over. Best I can do now is move on and hope the upcoming cartoons and current cartoons will do good for the current gen. At least I can still watch the old cartoons occasionally on the Internet.
It made sense for Steven to not go around destroying things. The whole episode was about Steven's problems, and how for once, he needs to accept help from everyone else, rather than being the helper like he thinks he needs to be. Having him also be a deadly threat would've muddied the message. Also, the whole thing was literally a meltdown triggered by PTSD (they mention that in the last episode), and portraying that as a great threat to others would really send a bad message about people with mental illnesses.
I think the issue is overall we know the Schtick of Steven Universe to the point it’s basically a meme now lol: “You can be a fascist and solely believe in evil ways of destroying all of life, but can be redeemed by a child saying “you’re wrong, just love each other” .... it isn’t necessarily going to fix that over and over again tbh” - me lol I think a lot of the issues people have, especially with this ending (which makes the most sense tbh out of all the redemption arcs), is that a lot of bad guys are very redeeming when they shouldn’t be, especially the Diamonds. Granted, I think Sugar has an interesting take on these arcs and how it reflects to our reality; in that, human brains, in real life, have that switch/change of beliefs and values and how people who commit atrocities or are bad are not “inherently” bad... it’s just wiring issues. That makes me think of cognitive therapy and rewiring your brain. Although easier said than done with psychopaths, narcissists, sociopaths, and the like.
@@micahcook2408 But this ending does address that though. It holds the Diamonds and everyone else accountable for how they've affected Steven. In that regard, it's actually better than Change Your Mind and the Movie.
D Reye no I agree!! I was just playing devils advocate because of Saber’s comment on it. That’s why I commented that this ending makes the most sense out of all the redemption arcs. I think people and/or fans who felt this ending was “shallow” is only because of being over saturated and desensitized to most of the ‘bad behavior’ being settled with a hug and a muffin. But Steven needed that the MOST since he was the one being dried of it on and on, episode after episode.
@@micahcook2408 I appreciated that they actually explored Steven's trauma and anger and how someone like him would deal with it, or in this case not deal with it. Steven Universe was always about taking human emotions and putting them in the forefront between character interactions and conflicts. Steven was an empath to the nth degree and that's a lot of weight to carry around, especially for a teenager. Add trauma, anger, self-doubt from not meeting high expectations, exhaustion, and heartbreak, that emotional instability can cause real damage to oneself and the people around you if you choose not to address it. Steven didn't know how to address it cause he never learned from anybody how to. That's why he believed his friends and family didn't understand. He didn't need to just be told that he was loved and cared about. He needed to feel it. I don't think many people realize how underrated true honest affection from the people how truly care about you is. Sometimes it can be reassuring or even life-saving.
D Reye news flash the show already send a bad message about mental illness since a literal teenager with mental illness pointed how badly written and insulting most of future was and it’s ironic since this angst stuff it’s based on rebecas therapy
Steven Universe Future was a lot of wasted potential. There were episodes that we could have done without. like the Aquamarine/Ruby episode (or as I like to call them, Shitbee and Stinkeye). Or the dual Lapis episodes. Also I was getting annoyed with the whole "suddenly I fucking HATE MY MOM and you should all hate her too" angle they were going with it. Felt like a played out form of cancel culture on Rose Quartz, she was being judged for her past more than what she had set out to do post-PD compared to what everyone judged her for. Things are too inconsistent. And the ending was just a big disappointment to me. I felt letdown a little hard.
The Lapis were so interesting omg they were what I wanted to see throughout the whole season! Their attitude is a stark contrast to Steven's it would been fascinating
@@hung9839 yes but they didnt really bring anything to the playing out of Steven coming to terms with no one else needing saved. They were just there, and their episode didnt do enough to progress the story. And in a side series that only has one season to try to wrap up a story and world that people have been following for years, that episode being there was... tbh kind of pointless.
I absolutely agree with you on how they just switched to utter hatred and disdain for Rose Quartz!! It should've been dealt with overall acceptance, not hatred. Rose was their beloved and relatively "deceased" leader and comrade who fought for their freedom and blessed them with Steven and their new home, Earth. I agree, its easy to think her motives may have been questionable after so much is shown about her in such a way, but I chalk that up to the perspectives we are given!! It's rare that we get to see inside Rose's internal motives and dialogue. but at the end of the day, Rose wasn't just playing. This all was a very serious and a very costly rebellion and Rose clearly had the strength, courage, and humanity to rebel against both her family, her homeworld, her mold, and a very evil and powerful dictatorship in favor of giving and experiencing freedom love and growth that would forever impact the way their civilization would develop... And Rose never got a redemption arc!! They just kept weighing her character down with flaws and wrongdoings and just ended up leaving her as the most hated character at the end of the series in a show where the bad guys are forgiven and redeemed!! 🤦♀️🤷♀️ what I would give to have Adult Steven come to real terms of acceptance and understanding with his deceased mother-- for his sake, he deserves not to live with disdain of her! And she deserves to be remembered as flawed, imperfect, strong, courageous, loving, and above all more human than any other gem.
It does kinda bother me how the early seasons placed Pink on this massively high pedestal as a kind and benevolent figure who could do no wrong, only to end it with her basically being considered a cruel, abusive, manipulative monster and a coward who let her son deal with her problems. I'm all for a seemingly perfect character having more of their flaws revealed, but it went too far. A fine balance would be Pink being a bratty, short-tempered child, but learning and growing and coming to appreciate all around her. That's basically what her character is, but the show basically glosses over it or overshadows her growth by her wrongdoings prior to coming to Earth. "Rose Quartz was a selfless leader who risked being shattered for the sake of all life on Earth." "Yeah, but she also abused her previous Pearl and broke her."
@@SaiyanGamer95 Exactly. EXACTLY. PD needed flaws. But they took it too far. And because this was all deconstruction in reverse, you can't really gauge how bad it is because the stuff furthest in the past becomes the freshest for us, the viewer. It was not well written, and it made an unnecessary villain out of Steven.
It's funny, I felt like the anxiety/depression angle the show was going for just didn't quite work. I myself go through some pretty serious depression. Well I know the experiences I have had aren't universal but, I think everyone can agree that the people important to them know when something is wrong. The gems just didn't seem to notice until the very end that Steven was having problems.
Rachel Bonomo thank you I also feel that way also most of stevens trauma barely makes any sense because by the shows logic Connie should be traumatized to because she was with Steven when that stuff happened to him but the only thing she was ever traumatized about was a karate move she made on accident
Carla Carrero steven had to deal with a lot more stuff than connie. And some people handle traumatic events differently 🤦♂️ the same events don’t give everyone PTSD 🤦♂️
Not only did it not work they handled it horribly. Like for instance connie broke the kid's arm for having a panic attack and then brushed it off like it was nothing and that the only issue was connie needed to manage her anxiety better and not...like... wailing on people.
The fact that Steven was supposed to represent people with mental health issues, but instead came off as a sociopathic weirdo is what bothers me. People with mental health problems/illness don't kill people, they aren't assholes to everyone around them(maybe if he was a representation of people who are bi polar personality disorder, even that's a stretch), and their problems aren't solved with simple hugs and therapy.
@@MissedBandwagon I understand these traits exist and some people with mental health issues/mental disorders can be cunts when they aren't in control depending on what you're suffering with. However realistically, that's not the case with Steven AT ALL. That small fraction, are people who have been through extreme abuse and have been emotionally scarred from the toxic relationships they've been experienced from on top of their already struggling mental health. I've met those cases, I *know* those cases, Steven having all those traits of the extreme is highly unlikely as he has NEVER shown signs nor the emotional immaturity at all in the series to developing these traits. They don't randomly pop up, they start at a very young age, not right in the middle of teenage years.
I think it really depends on the person. In my opinion, he was representing a mental crisis which means they have become a danger to them self or others. No, this doesn’t represent mental illness as a whole, it can’t. But it fits with how the team wrote Steven’s breakdown. He did destroy things, and I think they could’ve represented it as something in his head but i think it was a fitting ending.
As someone with mental illness, symptoms aren’t always pretty and tragic. Sometimes mental illness makes you an asshole. Sometimes mental illness makes you irrationally angry. Sometimes mental illness makes you selfish. It doesn’t excuse those actions by any means, but it can explain them. Also sociopathy is anti-social personality disorder, which is a mental illness sooooo
You should do a review on Mao Mao: Heroes of Pure Heart. It came out back in July of last year and the creator of the show is Parker Simmons who used to work on OK KO. It's very underrated and not much people talk about it. It's an amazing show and definitely worth watching.
Steven Universe was one of those rare kid shows where the theme was always about relationships. And while some people complain about the series and Movie on Steven not killing anyone or beating someone to submission and victory (like literally EVERY series out there) I can't help but think of a Marge Simpson quote and why I like Steven Universe as a whole.. "It was nice to see a movie where people solve their problems with words,.. instead of bullets and chasing." I mean if the therapy hug bother you then maybe just go watch all those other shows that have that "punch it till dies!!" or "Do X to save X and beat X" resolution.
I heard some people were saying that it was really dumb that they did not fight giant Steven but you don't stop a depressed person by beating the shit out of them
leyen But... he wasn’t just a depressed person... he was a giant monster threatening hundreds of lives. Yes, don’t kill or seriously harm him but they needed to secure him. Just hugging him is boring and cliche.
@@tannerlawley8435 It's fine if you didn't like it and thought the hugging was cliche but: 1) He became a giant monster BECAUSE he was depressed and hated himself to the point where he believed himself to be one. 2) Lapis did try restraining him with the same water chains from Reunited, and it didn't work. 3)The hugging could've been done better, but tbh it's like leyen said; you don't punch the absolute crap out of a depressed person. Also, if they did, it would've either ended horribly or the same kind of way anyway. And finally 4) SU is and always has been about relationships, feelings and communication, not fighting, blood, guts and gore. I sincerely apologise for the long rant, especially if it annoys you or anyone, I just felt like I had to put this out there even though it's probably uneeded
Emelem Red I can see what you mean, but I think the best way would be to have them try and attack Steven for a bit to subdue him, but realize the reason he turned into the monster was because he felt like a monster, and then they would try and hug and comfort him. I’m just saying, the way the show handled it was just boring, but it’s not exactly their fault, with their 11 minute runtime and all.
@@tannerlawley8435 I get what you are saying they had to hold him down to stop him from hurting people and gems but some people were saying that the gems had to beat him to the ground to stop him which I think destroys the point of the show but if you don't like it I understand I have my own problems with the ending
This show got me through a good chunk of years, when I was at my lowest, just sticking around to see how Steven and the gems turned out. It's really been something for a lot of us. The plot, characters, dialogue, and lessons. The music, the representation, and the relatability. Thanks crewniverse.
The thing about everyone freaking out about the whole mess being their fault was necessary, I feel. I don't think it was intended to just be levity -- the thing is, everyone's **right.** They **did** mess things up. Everyone has. The point of it was to show that even so, it wasn't the time to mope about that -- because Steven needed help **now.** Because, you know, that's... literally what Connie comes by to say.
I dunno I thought it was way too cheesy. If it were a few like Pearl or Amethyst, Garnet I'd get that but the Diamonds and Spinel just sobbing was just weird and off putting. Tonal mess.
For me who's only seen a few episodes and seen how the fandom is just didn't get into it. My problem is that Steven is to much of a punchingbag in the series. I feel his archetype of being the shield hampered the his growth. His break should be mid show run not in the end. I've seen better pacifist characters who defend first but when the going gets tough they swing back( though one chews out everyone for why he had to resort to fighting) the characters are Nikki Bassari from Macross 7 and Luran Cehack from Gundam Turn A. Sorry for the long winded response but its just how I view it.
@@barrybend7189 He was willingly a punching bag through the entire show because he was a child. Take a kid who's no older than 14 and who was taught no problem solving skills or had any self defense lessons. Now throw him in mortal danger every few months where his decisions not only could cost him his life, but also those around him. Being a punching bag was all he knew how to do. It normally solved his problems, so he kept doing what worked. Now that he can feel somewhat safe again, the trauma he faced all through life came back to haunt him. In my opinion and through personal experience, this breakdown happened at a completely normal time.
@@nolyricsneeded8424 the problem is the fact he never broke in a heavy scenario. He's *never* lashed out. I've been through bullying situations and rarely does being the punching bag actually help solve a problem. I know this sounds like something they'd never teach in schools( I was around the Zero tolerance of violence thing). But just taking hits never shows how strong you are. If you are faced with a confrontation you have to meet it head on and match it at least in defence. What Steven is doing is not what should be taught to any kid. As said my examples are of characters that are in a way pacifists but they don't subscribe to complete pacifism where you are just a barrier.
@@barrybend7189 Im not saying what should or shouldn't be done. He is a flawed person. That's how he grew up. He doesn't solve issues in a productive way because he doesn't know how. Also, If he fought back against homeworld gems like they were humans, he would have been straight up shattered and killed on the spot. It's like handing a child a pocket knife and telling them to fight against a knight in full armor weilding a gun. The only thing he could do in the situation is be a punching bag in hopes that the enemy would have mercy for him. You can't expect a child to know how to defend himself in a practical warzone. This was far more the bullying.
A lot of people think the "hug" was cliche but if you have that much self doubt and trauma, it really helps for you to know that people love you. The hug wasn't the thing that solved all of his problems, after "I am my monser" Steven started having therapy and it took a will for steven to recover. ( Also it's Steven Universe, how else are they going to solve a problem?)
1:57 I just realised, is Steven wearing his Dad's old shirt in Future? Because Steven's shirt in Future looks identical to that. I may have missed a point where Greg gave it to Steven, but I don't remember any scenes like that. Anyways, it's kinda cool to discuss.
@@mujiescomedy279 I mean ACTUALLY talk about it,I wanted him to go more in depth about how the good little hero just committed murder,and then has a large impact on the later story
I disagree with you primarily about the everyone blaming themselves scene. It seems over dramatic and comical, but it's pretty similar to reality. I have personal experience being surrounded by people who make your problems about themselves and it's almost always over the top crying and wailing, even when I'm not crying. It's a self centered thing, they need to feel their "guilt" more strongly than you feel your problem, so it becomes so much more dramatic than would make sense.
I agree with you completely. As a recovering narcissist, I've experienced this from both sides. Over the top "woe is me" by the abuser is a tactic to turn blame into pity.
BIG difference between drama wailing and comedic wailing. This whole season annoyed the heck out of me, because they kept making lowkey jokes like that stupid scene where Steven is suddenly Cinderella.
This entire season just felt like the worst kind of fanfiction. It was poorly written, stupid, annoying, lacked any consistency with the character writing, was brain dead at its own ineptitude many times. Made horrifically unfunny jokes, left mysteries and plot threads unanswered, gave a piss poor representation of trauma, and left with a dangerous message that it’s okay to run away from your problems as long as you believe it’s for the greater good. I really hope this show doesn’t come back.
It's been so long. I felt attached to these weirdos. Especially Lapis and Peridot. As silly as it is, I felt as if these guys were family. I felt overjoyed when they were happy and devastated when they were sad (Screw you Lapis and Spinel). I felt proud and happy for their accomplishments. And now that it's over, it's hard to let go and say goodbye. Steven Universe and Friends, you will be sorely missed. On the bright side, my girlfriend just started watching this show, so at least I get to revisit these weirdos.
Ngl, watching that last season of steven universe was an emotional train ride I watched all of steven universe and future with a group of my best friends (one of which is a gigantic SU fan) and we were all bawling honestly Good vid I honestly love your content keep up the good work :)
Blehbl Blehbl do u have any links to prove it ? Also, the show had five seasons ( six if u include future ) there is no excuse to waste time and then rush it at the end
Also keep in mind Rebecca Sugar has said they took a lot of inspiration from Shonen Anime where talking and hugging and the power of love and friendship solves stuff like this all the time.
I'd have given the show props for making Steven the final antagonist if we hadn't predicted it the moment the intro dropped. I actually kinda wish kaiju Steven wasn't there so it would've been more surprising when he transformed.
Funny thing is, when steven shattered jasper, had a mental breakdown in the hospital, and had that moment with white, I cried. Those moments had the proper emotions in them to bring out how heavy the situation is. But when the ending with the foreshadowing happened, when he corrupted into his monster, THE MOMENT I HAD BEEN WAITING FOR FOR MONTHS, i didnt cry or feel anything. I was only excited about my theory being proven true, but the proper emotions weren't there. It wasn't heavy, like it had been before. I was let down by that. When it ended with him leaving Beach City, i was upset and disappointed. I ended up crying for weeks. My childhood show had ended and the ending didn't satisfy me at all. Im still upset about it but yeah. CN just wanted to cut it short and it wasn't right
i like to think that steven turning into a monster was more of a panic atack- if you look at his movements thay are more self destructive and almost scared like- he hugs the cliff scratching at it as he screams- he gets restrained by these suden chains and hes upset so he attacks them. Its very similer to a panick attack and i think the hug was a good way to end it.
As someone with anxiety disorder and who has experienced panic attacks before, I think they really hit the nail on the head with Future and its ending, and I saw myself in Steven in many of the episodes (that whole "I feel like I'm dying" thing... I related to that so hard). When I saw Steven corrupt, he seemed to have a much more scared reaction rather than dangerous and rampaging (he eas mostly just running around and roaring), which I think complements his character and really explains why he didn't go full-on destructive monster. Because even though he thought he was a monster, he's always been a gentle soul with a troubled mind, and the point of the gems hugging him and reassuring him was to drive that aspect home.
@@Rainygirl3100 I agree. As someone with also an anxiety disorder, panic attacks doesn't make you angry. It makes you afraid of anything at that moment. And I saw myself with Steven being a monster. Feeling like a fraud, trauma, anxiety, and depression is one ticking bomb. His actions showed " Get away from me! I might hurt you!" And it also shows his self-harm by hitting his head at the temple. He flinches at every touch, so it was best that Garnet was the first to give him a hug. It was firm yet loving. It made Steven feel grounded and come back to his senses. The kiss was the cherry on top. It didn't heal him, per say, but it was the catalyst on his path of recovery.
@@Rainygirl3100 anxiety and ptsd nor any mental illness or bad mental health issues makes you go around being in denial or treating everyone around you like crap. And the random outburst for no reason is not how it works. I understand not everyone has the same experience, and I'm definitely not undermining your experience. Steven's self corruption representing a panic attack is the worst absolute metaphor ever. Since the build up to it was inconsistent asf, and the *hEs a tEEnaGeR* does not make it an excuse for the way he acted and portrayed leading up for that specific moment to exist.
@@DashawnLoves Are you kidding me? It sounds to me like you've never experienced a panic attack before. Or maybe you have and your symptoms are different, I shouldn't make assumptions. But generally, anxiety builds in the background over time from stress. It can make you have mood swings and lash out at people you love, or bottle up your emotions because you don't want people to worry about you, or you tell yourself over and over again that you're fine, that you're being irrational or your brain is being dumb, which leads to mistrust in yourself. You might make poor decisions wanting to avoid the feelings of fear, and act differently around the people you love in avoidance (sometimes pushing them away altogether). Panic attacks are a release of all that pent-up fear and negativity, they can happen at any time and for any reason, even when you seemingly have nothing to be scared of or there aren't any nearby threats. They can feel like you're losing control, like you're dying, like your head is spinning and you're going crazy, like your heart is going to burst out of your chest, and your thoughts are simultaneously hyperactive but blank with adrenaline. If that doesn't make sense in Steven's context I don't know what would.
Agreed but it was heartwrenching and I liked those parts. Aside from the plot issues with unshattering and the Diamond Arc, the show had many amazing writing moments. Bad pacing and sometimes bad writing, but sometimes really really good writing.
I really like this review. It doesn’t completely shit on all of future, it shows it’s perks and then gives a CONSTRUCTIVE critique. I thought some of the episodes were cringe and there were a lot of things that I didn’t absolutely love (that you mentioned) and yeah idk most reviews on future at least to me are just shitting on the fact that it even exists. Idk I love your reviews lol
Agreed. I love what we got, but the finale REALLY should've been longer. I still unironically believe that CN hated this show, 'cause they were alarmingly unfair to it in terms of timeslots and hiatuses.
Pretty much my thoughts on this finale and everything overall. Hopefully this helps spawn more cartoons that learn from the good and the bad and take these ideas to new levels! Still definitely enjoyed and like you said totally forgivable considering the fantastic moments
honestly, the only thing i didn't like about SU:F finale was the gems over-crying and then immediately hugging Steven to fix everything. THAT was definitely more MyLittlePony then even MyLittlePony ever did. Other than that, SU:F was overall a pretty good conclusion-series:)
I’d argue that the hug didn’t fix everything. It’s more like the hug made Steven realize that people were there for him, that they loved him. Because even after he changes back he’s still in a bad place mentally. He’s still crying and scared of himself. The hug didn’t fix everything. But I’d did give him the motivation to help himself. At least that’s how I saw it.
@Mario Carrillo I remember seeing an interview from Rebecca Sugar that she didn't want to show Steven getting therapy because she believed that it was a private thing, which I get the point. I think it's also for the time constraints, because CN probably only really granted the crewniverse 20 episodes of SU:F. We do get the idea that it was a long and still on-going process by the time of the last episode, because it had been a few months after the events of his meltdown and he's still in constant contact with his therapist.
Yeah, I didn't like it at all but I know that feeling of "being a monster that just ruin everything" and, how you just need a hug from someone you love to help you return to the real world, so I think it makes sense
kpop girl I think the issue is overall we know the Schtick of Steven Universe to the point it’s basically a meme now lol: “You can be a fascist and solely believe in evil ways of destroying all of life, but can be redeemed by a child saying “you’re wrong, just love each other” .... it isn’t necessarily going to fix that over and over again tbh” - me lol I think a lot of the issues people have, especially with this ending (which makes the most sense tbh out of all the redemption arcs), is that a lot of bad guys are very redeeming when they shouldn’t be, especially the Diamonds. Granted, I think Sugar has an interesting take on these arcs and how it reflects to our reality; in that, human brains, in real life, have that switch/change of beliefs and values and how people who commit atrocities or are bad are not “inherently” bad... it’s just wiring issues. That makes me think of cognitive therapy and rewiring your brain. Although easier said than done with psychopaths, narcissists, sociopaths, and the like.
I lived through 2 decades of Cartoon Network Orginal classics , so it's pretty sad to know yet another Era of the channel's history has come to a close , but the memories of those shows I'll definitely cherish forever and look forward to the future of what CN has to offer.
I liked Future overall, but I went into it knowing that it was rushed and short; not unlike the last season of Gotham. Honestly, I think the stuff with Steven was the weakest part, except for the development and dynamic he built with Jasper. The Jasper stuff was good because she offered him something that the other gems couldn't and I wish that was expanded on more and played more into the finale of it all. But yeah, the whole "and the power of friendship/love saved the day" ending was weak and disappointing.
Nah, I don't think they were adding levity with the dramatics by the diamonds. By having them be so extra, it really drove home the message when connie came in and pointed out that they were still being selfish and manipulative, even in steven's great time of need.
Hot take: your criticisms about the hug/quick resolution we’re answered by Connie reminding them that *is* their fault, and yes, it could’ve been longer. I didn’t expect it to be, because I know Sugar & Co. aren’t great at drawn-out intense conflict. BUT. As someone who has dealt with trauma, guilt, and emotions, this was a wonderful representation of it. They did a great job handling it in a way you could still show to a child. So, the quick resolution wasn’t upsetting to me. I know that this is still a kids’ show. I want my niece & nephew to watch it.
I feel the same way. I just caught up and finished the series, and it really trudged up a lot of unresolved issues I still have IRL. I felt like the built up in the season was so realistic, that it hurt me a lot thinking about the anxiety and depression I've been fighting my whole life. That being said, I think it just goes to show how effective the show runners were at what they set out to do. It's a kids show that was able to express mental health battles, childhood trauma, and the importance of therapy and support systems.
9:28 Excuse me! I'll have you know, good sir, that in MLP, they would have kicked butt, and *then* redeem the antagonist with friendship lasers! The audacity! 😤
@@blueteller the villains yes. Idk why but the seven universe villains were never intimidating to me. But villains like the satan tirek, the bug chrysalis and the psychotic cozy just felt like villains more even discord and he was more of a joke
@@BilgeRadić Because there IS no intimidating villains in SU. There are villains that seem *temporarily* intimidating when they're first introduced: such as Yellow and White Diamond. But since that show can't stick to "evil" and always plays the "misunderstood" card, no villain STAYS a villain and you can't help but notice it. Just like you know no one is going to die (except Lars, but he didn't even *stay* dead for a whole minute!), you know all the antagonists will join the good guys eventually.
A bit late with this review but here y'all go! Later Steven Universe
Coming up next on disney channel
Later Steven Universe
, say hello to more furry videos
Okay saber👍😁👍
This came out of the blue
*Steven kills jasper and is a dick to everyone, has a messed up scene with white diamond, turns into a monster*
Fans: Oh he's sad so it makes up for everything!
*I can't believe that Steven x Therapy became canon*
GingeoreoMedia alie, I spent the whole time future was airing saying ‘that boy needs therapy’
Yeah
Yeah, we were all saying he needs therapy more than connie. Both ships became cannon is a nice way.
Exactly, it was my OTP ever since Future started!
depressed thoughts
Uh hi are you ALMOST everywhere?
This episode's biggest constraint is the 11 minutes time bracket.
Agreed
Agreed, I've seen slice of life shows have a longer time bracket than this. :\
If Escapism and I Am My Monster traded time lengths, I'd be fine with that.
Steven Universe future in general just needed more episodes.
As mentioned in my own comment, Danny Phantom's My Bother's Keeper did a MUCH better job at handling depression and mental illness per memory than this did. Yes it's handled in one episode, but Danny being able to bring HIMSELF out of his funk is just so empowering. "I'm tired of you dumping on me. And I'm so tired of dumping on MYSELF. Jazz never did that even when I was mad at her." That line still sticks with me after all this time.
*Amethyst and Pearl do the Cookie Cat rap*
Garnet *deadpan*: "He left his family behind"
*Dead ducking silence*
Alex Steward garnet did it normally as well
Alex Steward That was in the original lyric tho
I hate the word deadpan. Fucking stupid. I always picture a cast iron skillet lying on a grave
@@CrudeConduct666 thats what you *should* do bucko
Basically, “Steven has PTSD cause he was like killing things at 12”
Steve was never asked to risk his life, the gems in fact did not even want to take him on adventures, he demanded to go to them, in fact nobody ever asked him for help, he always got into the affairs of others.
He never killed anything but himself that one time (before future)
Pearl creeping on garnet, leaving steven to die and amethyst turning into his mom i'd expect that to traumatize him more than anything.
@@EXMAXPOWER this doesn't make his violent upbringing valid and ok.
@@ChalkMuncher how about jasper? He killed jasper while training with him
*"Here we are in the future."*
No Steven, we're in Therapy.
😭😭😭
I wonder what god of therapist he has
Therapist: alright what’s bothering you?
Steven: my mom is from a group of genocidal tyrants and she died when I was born she technically became a part of me and my friends died multiple times and almost died multiple times and I almost died many times and I had to forgive my genocidal tyrants because I’m good but my mom’s evil older sister is bad so I feel not good
@Little Kitten. therapist: and what medicine are you on?
Willie2007 C the one crack I couldn’t fix
CRACK COCAINE
*Fear
Why didn't they do a 40 min finale like the actual show's finale? It would fix the pacing issues and let the characters actually try without resorting to a hug...
Because cartoon network is a f*ck
Cartoon Network
Blame Them
Cause the had no f*cking time (again)
@@jessebutchman which one ?
Love your vids man. One day you’ll be complaining about how the third adventure time reboot shouldnt have been live action, and I’ll totally be there for that.
And how the second is just lazy 3D and the voice actor for Jake SUCKS
@@ladylynx9891 yeah I mean, where's daddy Devito?
Well, see you guys in five years.
Omg I love this comment "the third Adventure Time reboot shouldn't have been a live action" and I don't know why. It just feels like a perfect joke about how things are currently with reboots and it'll probably be silly like that in the late future hahaha :)
People Talk Alot Danny DeVito’s role as Jake was the only well-cast role tbh. But the cg for when he stretched was awful. Doesn’t work in a 3D setting...Danny DeVito in a dog shape will never stop haunting my dreams
I liked the hug, not because of the hug but because of what it represented :) The hug itself isn't what bought Steven back, it was the fact he spent so long hiding that side of himself out of fear he would be abandoned for not being 'classic Steven'. The hug showed him that even in his darkest moment, when he became the evil monster he thought he was, they refused to abandon him. It was a 'we have seen the worst part of you, but we still love you' moment. Before the breakdown, no matter what support they said, he would reason to himself that they're only saying that because they don't know the monster he is, but after there was no way to tell himself that. Yes, the hug was cheesy, but proof that they still loved him flaws and all is exactly what he needed at that moment.
This! All this! The hug represented more than that, Look at what Monster!steven is doing when he first transforms, he's not stomping around the town, he's slamming his head into the hillside and grabbing at the ground like he's going to fall over. He's not going on a rampage, he's having a panic attack. He reacts violently to the Gems attacking him because from his point of view it's become a sell fulfilling prophesy and he has become the monster. The Hug represents the fact that they will love him no matter how he changes and will never see him as a monster and that's what brings him back. It might have been a bit rushed, but Wow was it powerful for me.
kel poole i also believe the hug and seeing everyone’s support is what gives him the motivation to finally help himself by getting the help he needs.
@Rob Very true.
@Rob i'm sorry you feel that's true, but people who are willing to stick with you through thick and thin are out there, it just takes time and communication to find them.
kel poole love the way you addressed his behaviour as a monster. That absolutely clicked with me. I saw myself in it a little, when Im at my lowest point. And when garnet hugged him i felt that was the exact right move. You need someone who looks past your outward behaviour (especially with how more violent and angry it looks than its supposed to be.) and realize whats going on inside and provide you with the love you need. I cried a lot and im sure 50% of that feeling came from relating to this with my own experience with mental illness. Dont know why saber wants monster steven to stomp arround gozilla like its not what the message was... idk I felt monste steven was handled exactly right.
I was actually pretty disappointed at the fact that they didn’t show Jasper all that much. I actually really like Jasper and her character had so much potential, and so much room to grow but they just kept pushing her off to the side as much as possible.
cause Cartoon Network was fishing in for some cash and grabs
Jasper is the chad of the show, iN mY OpIniON
should have kept her dead if they weren't going to do anything whit it.
honestly
i kinda get it? future is centered on steven rather than other gems
"What happened..? Where's Steven Universe?"
"It's gone.."
"What did you say?! Answer me!"
*_"IT'S GONE!"_*
STEVEN IS GOING FERAL
i can hear this comment
SHES *GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEE*
Stop it you're going to make me cry again I'm not prepared for that
It's gone. Reduced to atoms.
I definitely agree that the whole Monster Steven thing should have been a two part episode like him rampaging and them trying to stop him and them (with help from Connie) finally realizing that all Steven needs is a hug, some love, and someone to talk to
The show would've been better with more episodes to flesh it all out.
@ThiefRikku0306 It's called conflict, honey. And it makes things more interesting
@@SirGarmaples I think the show did the best they could with the resources they were given. Cartoon Network already planned to pull the plug on the show back in 2016 and Rebecca Sugar had to convinced them extend the final season and produce a TV movie, which took place right before Future. CN agreed to 20 episodes of Future and that was it. I think overall it was all fantastic.
Yea, it went way to fast
They didn't want Steven to look like a monster, but I also think that episodes needed to be more complex
I just feel like the final 2 episodes of future needed 15 more minutes each. The pacing leading up to the final 2 episodes was amazing, but the actual end was just a little rushed
Yes I thought all that build up was for something better
cause 2 episodes in the final were filler
👏 yes
Yep
“It’s over isn’t it”
Pearl
*Confused steven face*
😭😭😭😭
Bruh
@@denises9120 bruh
I felt this way too, like, Steven had already known and heard that everyone loved him already. He already knew all of that. This series was about inner demons, so I dont think him knowing he's loved by others was enough to "resolve" what he was going through. But at the same time, I'm not sure how they could've done that. And I've seen others say this isn't a "resolution" but just the beginning of him getting better. I just wish we could've seen, somehow, in his head, what he was going through during the monster episode. Maybe they could've used white diamonds power to their advantage. I'm not sure. I think if the episode had been longer, it would've felt less rushed.
And all they do is tell each other how much they love them
@@evi8826 hi Kore!
Idk maybe they could have said something like "you are not a monster!" And remind him of his good times.
I connected with Steven very heavily. I’m a lot like him, very empathetic and I deal with other people’s problems more than my own. When my depression hit... it took 7-8 years before I actually got help. This isn’t because I believed that the people around me didn’t love me, I knew they did and they told me so, I was sick... and hated myself... and wouldn’t allow that love to truly touch me. Plus being sick in front of other people is worse than being sick alone honestly. What Steven received... is what I needed. To be sick and actually be showered with love and understanding rather than “talk to us” and “tell me what’s wrong” and “you’re gonna be ok” and “we’re worried about you” ... those things didn’t help me and they didn’t help Steven. He had to break down for everyone to understand that this wasn’t about their feelings but about Steven and his feelings, not until they did that was he able to start healing.
I personally viewed the show as Steven knowing he has a very good support system but he also emotionally felt like he was only valued when he could help them in some way. The final bit where all the characters are all crying and blaming themselves is how ALL of Steven’s emotional heart to hearts go. Yes, they are connecting, but it is because Steven is acting as an emotion sponge for the other characters to grow and connect with THEMSELVES. It is never presented the other way around and that is why Steven could not make the emotional connection that his family was there for him even though he logically could tell they were. I think it made the show even more complex to depict this difference.
I think that the amped up crying is supposed to be ridiculous. Because it is ridiculous that they would wallow in self pity while their friend is suffering. That was Connie’s whole point at the end.
Thank you
Understanding what they went for doesn't make it alright, it makes the viewer feel like the writers think we're dumb.
@@rainygamedays5873 Well it is a show for kids, i guess they wanted to make the message as clear as possible.
Tétard Jaxon are you a kid?
So it's supposed to look stupid?
So long and the short: There were stakes, they looked really high, and then the wind blew them over?
Pffft-hahaha, perfect analogy. I love it 👍
@farmerdane12 They show Steven becoming a huge monster, but there wasn't really much affected by it. The solution was expected, but anticlimactic because there was no rise to the end beyond running up and hugging him. The result was a scene that was needed, but technically could have happened even without him transforming.
This explains a few climaxes in the show pretty well 🤷♀️
Mark Guyton Besides Aquamarine
@@Surkk2960 they did the exact same with White Diamond. They show this amazing terrifying villain, she nearly kills Steven and then "I am a child, what's you're excuse?!" And White Diamond blushes and the Diamonds become pathetic aunts. It's sad because the Diamond 'arc' if you could call that 20 seconds that, really ruined the show for me and for years it's been my top favorite show. Then there was Steven shattering and bringing back Jasper. Made the problems even worse. The times when the show is good it's one of the best, but the times when it's bad, it takes down everything with it.
I thought if Jasper had stayed shattered, THAT would've been a very heavy, very satisfying end to her character.
Sort of a,
"those who live by the sword, die by the sword",
and I imagine when Steven opens his hands, we just see Japer's shards floating in the water.
THAT would've been heavy, and made more sense for his breakdown and monster form later, because I just eyerolled when she suddenly reformed right away.
Know What I Mean?
Or maybe that's the main reason he goes to the Diamonds, to try and get her reformed!
SOMETHING!
I completely agree with you. Future was about Stevens powers becoming destructive as he deals with mental issues, right? Would've made perfect sense that he loses his healing abilities temporarily. Maybe they become destructive instead, like how he made those crazy plant Stevens that were pretty chaotic themselves- imagine Jasper does reform, but as her corrupted self instead.
@@hung9839 OR, maybe when Steven goes to Homeworld, he brings the shards to Yellow Diamond saying that it happened in an accident (which he doesn't elaborate on, for obvious reasons), and when Yellow reforms her, Jasper reacts the same way she did in the show, tho gloating about Steven's strength to the Diamonds, therefore revealing it was him, maybe?
I totally agree, or at least keep her shattered for a little longer. Like bruh why did you only let me panic for 2 seconds. LET ME PANIC FOR 2 EPISODES.
@@Blue_910 THAT'S MY THOUGHT EXACTLY, like, let it sink in for a week while waiting for the next episode, THEN REVEAL IT.
I’m a little sad that an era of cartoons I and many loved is coming to a close. Yet I’m willing to look forward for the future...
...As long as Mao Mao gets confirmed for season 2. If not, Cartoon Network is dead to me.
Same. Not keeping Cartoon Network if there isnt a season 2 of Mao Mao
[ *Now u know how them 90's kids feel* ]
Same
The Bard Yeah mao mao is better to teen titans.
CN is circling the drain these days. (Yes I know it's been said before) but this time it's really happening. And unlike last time they probably won't get a reprieve. Streaming is both better and "stealing" (maybe poaching is a better word) talent. I'd be shocked to see them around in 10 years. I'd say if they're still around in 5 it would be a miracle.
I feel like the finalies biggest enemy was...well two enemies, time and budget, Rebecca sugar confirmed she had Invisioned more but that CN was kinda pushing her to be done and get it over with...an unfortunate reoccurrence for this show, which is why if you watch them in order they can seem so....misplaced. it's like CN could never decide if they did or didn't want the show and gave the creators those "Steven Bomb" things but other than the first 2 seasons i don't think the show ever had a solid set schedule to air it seemed like it would just kinda come on whenever and i think that's why it felt like the show had no identity
Exactly, Cartoon Network is quick to use Steven Universe to tweet about how inclusive and supportive they are of trans people, yet they made everything horrible and inconvenient to the crewniverse. Rebecca Sugar had to work with sticks and glue to make this series even *have* an ending.
Sounds like Avatar TBH lol. amazing show, complete shit management that didn't know what they wanted. Korra especially.
FishFossils oh please Cartoon Network has nothing to do with it steven universe the future just has poor writing decisions due to the angst bullshit that people are eating up and guess what most people with actual trauma and mental illness aren’t buying it and it’s so ironic since sugar herself should know better also if it weren’t for Cartoon Network this show wouldn’t even have a movie
raze2012 I love korra huge fan but korra sucked because of the love triangle bullshit that the writers for some reason where still addicted to in season 2 so yeah that’s the real reason behind korras problems also over the garden wall and infinity train a bunch of mini series exists
@@carlacarrero4975 this isn't korra.
*Imagine if Godzilla hugged Ghidorah instead of annihilating him with his atomic breath*
That would've been... *Ghidorable*
Mission to be A Man only kevin would like it his 2 brothers wont take it too kindly
Same, imagine if ultraman hugged Baltan instead of cutting him in half and blasting him with his beam attack
That… would’ve been stupid… but cool stupid… I kinda want that…
That’s actually kinda adorable
The whole show was basically characters getting angry until they cry.
and being gay for some reason
exactly, but early episodes had decent writing and it went some where, last season and this new series wanted wrap up everything so fast, seriously?
i see how a lot of small kids were turn off by this show, its boring to them, clearly see this was cartoon for older audiance
@@kyotheman69 The writing is poorly coordinate imo. Many of the scenes just feel like the creators use the show to vent over petty situations of their past
@@slakoththesuperstar2639 Okay I respect your opinion but that whole "the animators use this show to vent" is ridiculously stupid.
Slakoth The Super Star exactly like Bismuth just somehow turns gay and likes Pearl now for some reason.
I thought the hug was sort of more of a confirmation. Like, they’re saying “you’re not a monster, and we know you’re hurting, so you shouldn’t be afraid to reach out to us and we’ll help you no matter what you did.” That’s why when Steven breaks down when he turns back, it’s sort of a “I’m severely mentally ill and I need help” type of cry, rather than “I’m so happy everything is resolved” cry. Not trying to sound rude, just my viewpoint!
Ya it wasn't resolved by the hug, the hug de-escalated the situation. The resolution was Steven going to therapy to get better
Very rude
At first I thought the hug was just nonsense and a bad way to end that episode so quickly. But then I read a IG post talking about the same thing. The hug was something more. Steven literally was having a mental breakdown and a hug and kind words was the only way to help him. I'll send yall the Ig link. The person goes into more details and information.
instagram.com/p/B-SRf3Kp82C/?igshid=11i9pwudb564b
Overall, I thought the whole series was good talking about mental health. It was NOT perfect but it gives a message out there.
I will say: if steven did destroy the town, then he would have felt even worse and taken much longer to leave as he works through the guilt of actually ruining so much and actually working to fix the town as well as little homeschool. I would have liked to see his new powers as a kaigu but the town being safe lets him move out and not have anything hold him back emotionally or physically.
50th like!!!!
Naruto reference
I honestly feel like he thinks he’s a monster. But he isn’t trying to hurt anyone or anything. So he thinks he is a monster but he doesnt have a goal or motive to destory. So he kinda just stagnant.
I actually liked when the diamonds cried making it all about them, then Connie eviscerates them. she had the most important message, it's not about you right now. The diamonds reminded me of all the self-centered people who take tragedy and make it all about them, and not about the person going through trauma. Like Facebook users. Or the parents of any troubled teen, who get so wrapped up in asking where they went wrong as parents, they forget to help and love their kid.
They should've actually had them seriously reflect and show remorse by making it unintentional and less comical. Especially Spinel, although she was only in the movie, she should know how it feels to think the worst of herself and how it felt when she started feeling neglected after she undid the drill. Connie being hurt and showing actual emotions could've also made her calling out the diamonds more meaningful. It's not a bad concept at all, just executed poorly.
@@msleahb12 I have to disagree with you. As someone who works in a mental health field this actually portrays very well how people make a situation all about themselves. They had lost sight that Steven was in pain and had turned into a "woe is me" kind of person. I dunno, as someone who see's this kind of behavior a lot it struck a chord with me.
@@dragongirl89115 That behavior isn't unrealistic but considering they were supposed to have changed, they should've taken this more seriously. They corrupted and shattered millions of gems and were working to fix that along WITH their communication and capability to consider others, but their beloved Steven just corrupted and it feels like they haven't evolved past the movie.
It's not unrealistic, some people when they find out a loved one is hurting will feel like they did something to contribute to it and will blame themselves. Is it the right time to do so? No, but it does start their proverbial ball rolling on their own self-reflection. Connie was the one to slap them back into reality, not all cases of someone blaming themselves for anothers tragedy don't have that person to snap them out of it.
Mc Fuckity I mean she basically totally unrealistically healed and gave Steven the terrible advice that he can just not have bad thoughts if he really wants to.
It’s normal to be angry! You can’t just stop feeling these emotions. You just need to learn how to deal with them.
"I forgot we bare bears"
Describes the show perfectly tbh
Ice bear feels sad.
it's not continuous or story driven, hence it's forgettable
just like the first season of Adventure Time
@jbiehlable no one wants to remember 76
@jbiehlable horrible....what
We Bare Bears just isn't a good show, it tries to hard too be ”relatable” but just comes off as cringe. Like the anime crap that they force down your throat. Also I hate baby bears, god they're annoying.
I'd love the hug if the Diamonds weren't in it. Because two episodes ago we saw how just being around White could induce a panic attack! Because they're all a primary source of his trauma, so physical contact from them is a terrible idea! If they had contributed to Steven's healing by learning to stand away from him, and acknowledging his TRUE family, it would have been a great end to their arc. Instead, even though they're sincerely worried about him, it feels like they're just trying to fill the Pink-shaped holes in their lives.
The hug was dumb tbh
Yeah I can agree, honestly just have the hug be with The Gems, Connie, Craig, and possibly Spinel(I mean I think her hugging him wouldn’t be bad as the diamonds doing it).
@@wiwitutsu2175 just bc it didnt end in some epic fight doesnt mean it's dumb when someone is going through a lot of stress and trauma something they need is a hug from the people that love them
The Crew behind Steven Universe said they wanted to do a lot more with Future but they were really limited so they had to rush some things which is really unfortunate 😔
TheTrueTerrydactyl is that really true?
Where did you find that at?
TheTrueTerrydactyl the reason why Future has its problems is because of rebeca self inserting her therapy into Steven universe especially when it mostly doesn’t make any sense
do not blame cn, blame sugar for not knowing how to tell a damn story, the development of this show is horrible and is full of plot holes, sugar had time and only had filler. SHe had about 200 episodes to tell what she wanted to tell, there are shows that with less than 30 episodes tell better stories than this.
@@EXMAXPOWER Cartoon Network is quick to use the series to tweet about how inclusive and supportive they are of trans people, but they made everything terrible and inconvenient for the crewniverse. Low budget, random hiatuses, zero structure. All problems that were outside of the crew's control, yet they're constantly blamed for it.
I hate when creators use this excuse as they clearly had enough time for a shit ton of filler.
They also had the same problem in the original series so it's really just them being bad writers smh
What's up saber? How's quarantine treating you?
He has more time to make videos thats for sure...
I work from home so nothing has really changed for me! Hope everybody else is hanging in there
@@Saberspark I have question do you plan to review Threasure planet?
@@Saberspark please look at raggedy ann and andy: a musical adventure
@@Gloverfield one of my favorite movies ever and i feel the topic would suit a good vid since the sequal that WOULD have happened but didnt
This season wasted a lot of time. Every time something is about to happen, the show backpedals and says “it’s ok” or “nevermind” or “leave me alone”.
It dilly dallies about, but doesn’t let the moments build on top of each other. The best it gets is how Steven proposes to Connie but she tells him to slow down, which leads to him having gem-anxiety attacks prompting Connie’s mom to screen him for PTSD, which leads to Steven hanging with his dad but realizing his dad unwittingly sabotaged his childhood; all leading Steven to go to Jasper to learn some resilience because he’s tired of being coddled, but then it goes too far and he ends up killing then resurrecting Jasper which prompts her to become his follower. That’s 4 episodes of solid story development; and then Steven pulls the plug and goes to talk to the Diamonds, and the whole thing with Jasper’s worshipping him as a diamond, and with his dad’s shitty parenting, gets dropped and the show’s momentum is set back to zero, so for the part where he becomes super-happy and then becomes a monster feels very rushed and forced because it wasn’t using the pre-existing momentum of the story. Like, this whole season, it’s like a car going from 0 to 60 mph; then suddenly is stops back down to 0, and then out of nowhere the car jumps to 190 mph. The pacing and sense of character progression keeps jittering all over the place which means it doesn’t hit as hard as it ought to.
Also it’s bullshit that the Diamonds are included in the group hug. They Tried To Kill Him. Numerous Times.
It would have been better if they could have spread the story out over multiple seasons. Unfortunately, the jackholes at Cartoon Network forced them to put it all in one, and even denied them an extended "special" like the SU finale. =/
@@JamesPolymer SU had more than enough seasons to work with. It boils down to crewniverse not being able to pull the trigger when it counts. It's like they're afraid to tell the damn story and procrastinate or sabotage the pacing, only to panic to get to the finish line, where a steady hand would've had no problem with the same runtime.
@@samwallaceart288 Yes that's true, but that was the original series; I mean _Steven Universe: Future_ was only given a single season to cover the entire story. That's just not enough time to properly explore how someone deals with PTSD, even if the episodes had all been laser-focused with no filler material. They didn't even get a 40-minute finale to work with, for Pete's sake. (If they could have saved & combined the last 4 episodes into the finale, and used the entire season leading up to it to advance the plot with no filler, it could have at least been _decent._ )
This is exactly what I thought!! And the ending + I Am My Monster was SO underwhelming. Like ah yes, group hug, everything is fixed”. Huh?? And then the last episode was so bad, just Steven running around and panicking because the gems weren’t sad. What??
@@nxpstablook Yeah.
For real though, proposal to shitty parenting to Jasper training could've been the whole season. Love that section.
I feel like the way monster Steven went out was fitting. Purely because monster Steven is supposed to be a manifestation of depression, self loathing, and mental illness in general, and when you see this kind of stuff happening to the people you love, you aren't supposed to handle it with a closed fist, but with open arms.
That does make sense and is a great final option, but....KAIJU FIGHT first.
It was a lackluster ending that featured a knock off Godzilla. I hope they get sued by Toho for that design. You do NOT disrespect the King!
Slaughter619 Good idea, poor execution.
Can you imagine just punching the shit out of someone because they are depressed
@@Mpeace777 show they care and try to stop him from doing something that can and will hurt himself and others? I think it's fine, sometimes it takes a slap to refocus on the bigger picture.
I honestly really enjoyed the final. I cried during the hug. I'm very sympathetic and can easily put myself in others shoes. The hug really broke me down because you can see he was trying to stop and everyone was breaking down. I dont know, I just loved it entirely.
This is quite literally how most main characters of kids cartoons would realistically react mentally to having to constantly be in life and death situations. Props to this show for adding in some realism
Personally with me, Change your Mind had the most impact on me. Especially with the animation at the end by James Baxter. I just didn't feel it with this final episode. However, the conflict with Steven and all this rage inside of him has to be the most teenage thing I've seen in media. I myself feel like a monster, sometimes. Surely most people have, but that's the thing about teenagers, they try to hide their problems and conflicts from their parents or adults because they don't want to be ridiculed or in Steven's case, he didn't want the gems worried about him. In his mind, he wants everything to be perfect, and you can see this in the Steven Universe Movie too.
Anyway, tl;dr Steven Universe Future is a great example in media of how teenagers bottle up their emotions.
Wait, isn't James Baxter the horse from adventure time?
@@moonlight_mylk yes, but he's also an animator and James Baxter the horse was a reference to him
@@ZaijahZea thank you! I looked it up after reading your comment. That's interesting, I had no idea. I really like the episode where we learn that he got his name from a "games" and "bookstore" signs.
So having PTSD over constant life threatening situatins is a typical teenage thing?
@@DeathKitta I think you missed my point, but it's also a good example of how trauma affects people over time. Thank you for your addition.
I've seen the ending at least they ended it with cookie cat
Cookie cat was a better written character than amethyst
Don't @ me
@@dizzee6089 yeah and as we all know peridot had a better arc
@@saurodude fuck LAPIS had a better arc then amethyst
@@angelicabomination1699 preach
I dont like how aggressively mr krabs is touching himself-
I thought Future was a continuation of the series just with a different name and that it would go on for a few more seasons. I was legit surprised to find out one season ended the entire show itself. Like, I was looking forward to more seasons of the gems clashing with the Lapis's, Jasper, White diamond in the intro where it looked like some new massive evil would come, how they'd confront gems who enjoy hurting or destroying, etc. I was hoping we'd explore the colonies, and get a closer look at homeworld's everyday society. I thought we'd explore Volleyball's past, allow her to develope as a character. I'm legit so curious about Pink Diamond as this violent, angry child, it's an interesting aspect to her past that I wanted to see more of and not in just random lines like, "oh she was violent." And I thought we were gonna explore Greg's basckstory, I was honestly so interested but they made it about Steven and I just felt kind of cheated?? I get he's the main focus but Greg's story needed it's own episode(s), you don't often see serious cartoons, especially ones about family, talk about how it's ok to distance yourself from those who aren't there for you despite being blood related or people you've had history with. I wanted some sort of exploration on how it feels to be Greg, not only about coping with learning his wife's past, but also coping with learning about how the woman he fell in love with and married looked completely different than in her Diamond form. That's another sort of conflict that should've been discussed- sounds petty but imagine finding out your spouse was once this violent person and had to undergo extreme plastic surgery decades after you thought you knew them.
And maybe I wanted to see Spinel react to Connie and having an episode focus on her dealing with the feeling of being "replaced" (romantic or not). And also more on the Lapis, Peridot, Bismuth dynamic, fleshing their chemistry out instead of putting them in the side saying "ok, their arcs are finished."
I will say I LOVED seeing Steven become angry and seeking Jasper. I don't think him being with her was completely useless, he sort of learns how to allow himself to feel anger. I mean sort of, they could've explored it and said more than just "anger = violence = bad". My opinions may or may not have anything to do with me enjoying it when a kind character snaps due to their own inner turmoil :X /it's sum gud shit/. Imagine bringing Lapis's rage into it especially with Jasper there, that'd be kind of difficult to accomplish but would be so fascinating.
Also, the Bismuth-Pearl thing took me by surprised and I loved it. It's lowkey and sweet, gives the whole feeling of "starting anew."
I'm glad they finally added that Ruby and Sapphire are not always garnet and had their own lives. That was a major criticism of Garnet I had. I loved her and enjoy Ruby and Sapphire but I didn't like how they fused permanently and unfused unless due to dire circumstances (or Steven's birthday). It seemed less like a symbol for marriage and more like your identity is only defined by being being in a relationship- That Ruby and Sapphire as indivudal characters didn't matter especially when they couldn't handle being apart without some sort of conflict between eachother in the past.
And while I'm not a massive fan of Connie (I don't hate her), I liked the conflict she and Steven had to solve. It was a little weird but it was new and it was interesting.
Steven Universe is a very fasincating, pretty show but very flawed in handling its fantastic premise. It really had the potential to be an amazing show with the right set of writers. It never reached such as level but it did very good. I find myself wishing there was more to some of its stories. Idk I ramble, I like the show and the ideas they explore but I wished I took advantage of a lot of ideas as well.
Dude, you summed up my feelings on this PERFECTLY. Thank you for existing man 😭
Don't blame this on Rebecca; the execs at Cartoon Network limited the show to a single season. They also denied her any extended "special" episodes like the original series' finale.
I mean, of course they hugged him. He felt like a monster, fighting him would just increase that feeling. And I know that it probably would have been cool to see him rampaging, but by keeping the conflict on the beach it makes it clear that the issue is between Steven and the Gems
Not to mention think of how bad Steven would feel if he hurt anyone or destroyed anything in town as a monster. It would go against trying to convince him he's not a monster.
Yeah I can't see it ending on the same bittersweet note if Steven had destroyed the town.
I think the hug doesn't work because just before it was just a freaking SOB FEST of "oh III hurt steven, no IIII hurt steven" it was just soooooo weird. And it doesn't help that the diamonds just SWITCH like a DIME either again off screen.
Optimal Ghost i think the hug was fitting. The hug wasn’t just a hug, Steven was essentially having a panic attack. The hug was to make him see that he had people (or gems) there for him. To make him see that he wasn’t alone and people loved him. The hug wasn’t meant to fix everything, and it didn’t. That’s why even after he changed back he was still distraught. Still hurt and crying. But the hug was the first step needed to give him the motivation to help himself.
@@optimalghost7899 They where making it about themselves yes, but some people who find out someone they love is hurting they will blame themselves. Connie was smart to remind them this isn't the time to do that and they did put their feelings aside. In my personal life my parents have blamed themselves for how I am today but know that that isn't what I need to hear when I am having mental breakdowns. But they feel they did have a part in how I turned out due to how I was raised.
Just gonna say my opinion. Steven Universe was more about our mental problems, accepting ourselves and etc. That's why I think it ended with a hug, bc Steven needed that. The shoulder to cry on. Steven U was about Steven being a gem, Steven Universe Future is about Steven being a human with feelings. Great job anyways!
That's actually the best way to describe the show. Thanks for this.
I mean even if that's what it's about it still has piss poor writing.
@@stuffz1757 I second that...honestly..
Like Sparks. I think it should've ended with steven becoming a monster and do what people actually do in real life. The cause chaos towards their surroundings. He could've went to town destroying some buildings and the gems (idk) would try to calm it but it doesn't work because of his anger. (Some people are just too angry that they would need to be alone..) So, Connie comes in, walking and looks up seeing steven as a monster, destroying the town and starts to cry and saying stop to Steven. Steven would accidentally hurt Connie and would look back to what he's done. Seeing the problem he's caused, he turns back to human and runs towards Connie to see if she's okay. She would be severely hurt but would hug Steven. Connie would say some lovey dove speech and Steven would start to cry and hugs Connie.
@@tomasramirez2914 but we forgot that they are like ten of these immortal beings Gems who can do some shiz with magic. I think it would be rad that we saw this Godzilla Steven running around and just smashing everything,but Steven was scared and confused about himself,not angry at other people
How Steven Universe Future was created:
Crewniverse: * having finished SU out of breath * How...how was that?
Rebecca Sugar: * takes a long drag from those old 20s cigarettes * Again, but with more depression
Fangirl-inator109 Heh
I think the fact the diamonds having that crying moment and blaming themselves. Was just a good moment to acknowledge how some people make the situation about themselves thinking it’s gonna help the person whose hurting when it’s not. There are people like that, but I think Connie saying “it’s not about you right now” was just to resolve it
That scene isn’t meant to be serious or depressing, I think you explained it perfectly
I liked the hug, however i do agree that could have been better, i mean with ten minutes more it could have been amazing
I cried 😢😭
@@candypxppers848 I was very close to go there as well
I was expecting the corrupted Steven thing to be more epic than what we got.
Rebecca Sugar in a interview: I think crying is funny
Blame cartoon network for how rushed this season was. They expected 2 seasons but cartoon network only gave them one. They could only cherry pick important stuff for stevens development and couldn't stretch as much as they wanted.
Still, glad Steven got a therapist.
@Kitty Fo the show isn't as much "filler" as people say. It's either character work or lore work. It's just that CN were such jerks about the schedule that any non lore episode felt like we were cheated.
My totally anecdotal proof, I got my wife introduced to the show right around the time of the Pink reveal. She was binging it like crazy, 4, 5 episodes a day, and loved it. She only got frustrated when she got caught up and felt the pain of all the fans.
In short, Blu Ray sets are gonna be dope
99% reused animation 1% plot.
78 episodes and not a single plot episode and 60 episodes were repeats of older episodes TIME was not the issue the 10 minute shit is only on the creators they decided on that and this is only the first season the rest of the season were MORE of that.
This wasn't slice of life when it focuses on scenes typically scene as padding in most shows and just DRAGS them on and on and call that a show that is called a waste of TIME and money.
As soon as they realized that it was only gonna be 1 season, they should have SERIOUSLY started trimming the fat. You wanna show us Steven having a mental breakdown as the final arc of the show? Awesome, but don't go off in different tangents that you never intend to pick up again or have almost nothing to do with that. You could have cut out Bluebird, A Very Special Episode, Steven Tag, the episode where we meet the other two Lapises, Greg's Childhood, etc. Hell, even Cactus Steven could have been cut or reworked to better fit the arc.
@@blackgemstone801
It was filler. We know next to nothing about the history of the Gems and the history of the alternate Earth the series takes place on. There were also many unanswered questions like what is in Lion chest or what is going to be done with that Lapis Lazuli that is destroying planets. The show gave way to many episodes to the largely irrelevant townies. As a result, many character arcs the Crewniverse likely wanted to do were unfinished or unsatisfying. The Diamonds and Spinel for example had their entire "redemption arcs" off-screen. Jasper was poorly handled. We never see Pearl completely move on from Rose and get with someone else.
Also many of the previous conflicts were pointless as shattering is not longer an equivalent to death for a gem. They removed the consequences of shattering to "redeem" the Diamonds and because they don't have the guts to kill off anyone.
There are a lot of other issues with the writing of Future and the overall SU franchise.
You really can't blame CN for anything because they gave the Crewniverse almost a decade to work with. Most shows on CN don't receive 7 years to work everything out.
They had enough time with the original series they arent credible enough to have 2 seasons anymore they’re just gonna be filler
Yeah same, I was watching all the gems crying at monster Steven and I was like "Is this meant to be comedic or serious, I'm so confused"
It was meant to be a jab at narcissist family members that try to make the victim's problem about themselves, it looks ridiculous and overdramatic because that's exactly how those kinds of people look like when they do that.
+MalDambão
That's what I thought too but then seeing characters like Garnet or Pearl react in such a way was odd because its not their nature to behave like that, that they're more mature when it comes to relationships than maybe the Diamonds who had to learn how to be loving rulers recently.
I love the Kaiju Steven design XD
I feel the series as a whole was essentially one of it's famous lines: "If every porkchop were perfect, we wouldn't have hotdogs." 😋
Yeah, the show was definitely a hotdog at times.
L2o.
Jhakri lol right? And not a very good one.
@@maqaeda But in a way,it's both the best and worst hotdog.It might not be avatar,but it was special.
The hug was a little cheesy but it made sense, thats what he needed. I also dont think the hug fixed everything, he stopped being a monster but he also went to therapy for months after we just didnt see it. Also I dont understand why people dont like/get why they all cried and blamed themselves? The point was to show that if someone you love is hurting, yes you may have caused it but it is NOT the time to feel bad and make it about you. Thats exactly what Connie said like right after that scene lol
I'd replaced the hug with White Diamond's mind powers with the Crystal Gems joining in communicating with Corrupted Steven with they are their for him only this time White, Blue and Yellow admit all of their mistakes, how it caused indirectly everything that happened, promising even more that they will change for the better and they will never abandon Steven like they had abandoned Pink. The rest of the Crystal Gems then say what they said in the scene, though Bismuth and Lapis say more. As Steven comes to his senses due to their words, he is able to speak again while transforming back to normal. And for the final act that will heal his corruption, it will be Connie and Greg be the last who will speak to him that they will be there for him just as how he has been for them. Greg tells that he's not a monster, hes his son and hell support him no matter what. And this is where Connie and Steven's first kiss happens, finally transforming him back to normal.
Andree Tungcab i would love to see that as an alternate ending actually
I swear this show only started like a year ago, and now you’re telling me it’s already over?! What the hell?
they only got 20 episodes from CN, who hates good things
@@Pablo360able do not blame cn, blame sugar for not knowing how to tell a damn story, the development of this show is horrible and is full of plot holes, sugar had time and only had filler. SHe had about 200 episodes to tell what she wanted to tell, there are shows that with less than 30 episodes tell better stories than this.
@@EXMAXPOWER not everything in life has to go by your rulebook, steven universe may have had filler episodes where he only hangs out or something, but that's the point, Steven may be a gem, but he is still a kid
@EXMAXPOWER You're completely missing the point, which is that the comment is about STEVEN UNIVERSE FUTURE SPECIFICALLY, WHICH IS ONLY 20 EPISODES
@@mustardwombat3464 Steve is a kid, like 96.5% of the protagonists in the cartoons. what kind of excuse is that? There are countless shows that had less than 26 episodes and told their stories in a better way.
I heard that Cn didnt gave rebecca permission to do more episodes thats why its rushed or am I wrong?
Correct, the crewniverse wanted at least two seasons to tell the story properly, they had to work with sticks and glue there, they didn't have a choice.
Considering how often this show went in hiatus, CN probably didn't want this dragged out like the rest of the seasons
@@osets2117 CN was the one doing the hiatuses. The Crewniverse never wanted hiatuses but CN did it anyway to increase viewership.
Seems like they took way too much time tbh. Those hiatuses where cancer
@@SirGarmaples i dont really buy it, what tells you this?
Here we are in the future , Here we are in the future and it's DEPRESSING!!!!!
Sup
depressed thoughts
sup
Just a second ago we were seeing it all
And now, they're gone, because of it
Happily ever after, there we were
“BuT tHe HuG rEpReSeNtS-“
Yes, we get it. Doesn’t make it non disappointing with the final confrontation though.
would you have rather they beat the shit out of him and left him more damaged? Do you wanna take it up with Rebecca Sugar, who literally used this show to reflect her LIFE? (meaning this moment could have very well happened to her, so saying it was disappointing is like spitting in her face)
Ok first, calm down. Second, she said herself that she and her team did not plan for an epilogue series. It's just sort of something that she had the opportunity to do. Third, I'd have liked more of an actual conflict, yeah because these are characters. Characters that don't have to completely and accurately portray real people. I doubt Sugar has been to space to meet the Diamond overlords if you really want it reflect her "life." The ending was disappointing. I have no issue in saying that.
Steven universe is a deep and thought provoking show™
Could you imagine a 2 part finale where Steven destroys everyone and then cries about it just like TKO in Okko finale
Cometstarlight what would you have preferred, then?
I mean, I get it. BuUuUt- Steven thinks he’s a monster, and most people want the gems to fight Steven I’m I am my monster. But, it’s kinda bad for Steven, he thinks he’s a monster, and if the gems fight him, he’d think he’s more of a monster lol
Then, it should have been written better.
Like, it sort of makes sense that a stupid hug would solve all problems because he's suffering emotionally and he's distraught and blah blah blah.
It's like the WHOLE season was leading up to this amazing climax and the most of the last 5-10 episodes just flopped so badly.
Like he said, it could have been handled SO much better. Maybe it's because they only had 12 minutes to write an entire climax, but then they should have cut out a lot of the pointless dialogue. Like Saber said, I also thought the whole "it's my fault, no it's MY fault" was really dumb and out of place.
They should have cut back on the bad dialogue to maximize on the climax
True! They probably could’ve handled stuff wayyy better if they had more time/episodes
This isn't a case of bad writing. This is a cas of some not understanding trama. Rebecca Sugar said this represented how she felt when she experienced serious trama in her past. All it was doing was trying to tackle trama realisticly.
@@johnnieedwards3171
This isn't a realistic show, though
If this was a slice of life show, then it would have been different and would have made sense.
But, a show about powerful alien beings?
Ending a GIANT moment with a hug? Eh
Cheesy, stupid, and just unsuitable
@@helpyisdead
What show are you watching?
Now let's see what Cartoon Network got for 2020:
Continuation from the 10s:
-Infinity Train Book 2
-Ninjago
-Apple & Onion
-Craig of the Creek(Underrated)
-Victor & Valentino(underrated)
-Mao Mao:Heroes of the pure heart
-Adventure Time
-Thundercats Roar(i don't wanna talk about this show cuz 2 controversial)
-DC Super Hero Girls(FORGOTTEN)
-Scooby Doo and guess who?
-Transformers:Cyberverse
Teen Titans Go!(Probably will end..just wait :D)
Coming to the 2020:
-We Bare Bears prequel(rumor)
-Another Ben 10 movie
- Elliott from Earth
Ninjago will never die!
Owlhouse is goof
Amphibia!
Kipo and the age of the Wonderbeasts!
Tales of Arcadia: Wizards!!
wait, ninjago is still going? i didn't know that! i really loved that show years ago
I wish Milo Murphy's Law will be continued as well
Your not gonna mention how Steven litterally murdured Jasper?!
And almost killed his dad
@@eliekira7521 and white diamond(I think)
@@nightmareriddenlibrarian2924 he also almost killed everyone
Maybe it's that I have PTSD and recognize Steven's breakdown as a gem version of a panic attack, but I like that he calmed down before he did too much damage. Also props for them saying he got and is continuing therapy!
This decade was full of shows that I will always remember and seeing it end makes me sad. I have hope that 2020's shows will be just as good, hopefully better!
Mister Raider yeah i cant wait for coronavirus the show in 2024 and coronavirus future in 2029
@@maurioooe1973 Remember Coronavirus: Electric Bugalo 2
The conclusions that this show took is what turned me off. There were stakes...but it was always solved with "We're friends now!" They purposefully went out of their way to NOT let Steven make the hard, ultimate choice. EVERYONE COMES BACK when they're shattered or bubbled! Each conclusion came down to "Let's be friends" or "Hugs fix everything". Kind of a shit lesson, if you ask me.
Yeah it's why I quit watching at some point. Like it's fine to not be serious like that but if it's never going to commit then why put the characters in these situations?
It was still a good show ;-;
@@pastel_rosy_cheeks8084 I don't think it was bad and you can like it if you want, nobody can take that from you. That said for me the constant tonal shifts ruined it for me as a whole. I'd argue that it had some of the best episodes in animation if only it was more consistent and had more direction.
Yeah like My Little Pony but MLP does a better job
Hitler aliens go "StEeeVen" and love wins, literally.
Time really does go by fast.
It's hard to think Steven Universe has come to an end.
I remember watching the Episode "jailbreak" seeing the "Stronger Than You" moment and instantly loving this show.
This show has done a lot for me, for me personal, it made me have a renew respect for the new shows to come out of Cartoon Network.
Steven Universe I have said constantly has "Code Lyoko Level Quality" which I mean by that is like the Cartoon Network French import of years ago, it means that an animated Serise achieves at, Being Different from its contemporaries, Pushing Boundaries of Animation in an emotional, artistic and writing Performance than It's contemporaries and for being Special in many ways.
Steven Universe achieves and succeeds at this in every way shaped and form. This show made me also gave me a second chance to "Adventure Time" a show that I never liked until realizing that if it wasn't for Rebecca's involvement with that Serise, it wouldn't have led her to route in making this show come true, so I have to thank Pemberton Ward for his masterpiece that led to Direction we have today.
It also made be open minded and give a chance to all CN shows, I have grown to love like O.K KO Let's Be Heroes, Craig Of the Creek, Summer Camp Island, Victor and Valentino, We Bare Bears and Infinity Train.
So, I want to take this time to thank everyone Involved in this Serise:
First and Foremost:
Thank You, Rebecca Sugar: The Hard Work, Attention to detail and leadership, is amazing, she broke the glass ceiling as being the 1st Female Creator in Cartoon Network History and you help me expand my pallet of quality animation, You made me grown my imagination. From the bottom of my heart, Thank You for Imagining and Creating this masterpiece.
Ian-Jones Quartley: Great Man, also an amazing talent animator, He also would create a "Code Lyoko Level Quality" with O.K K. O Let's Be Heroes, thank you for creating a fun, cute and amazing show and for your contributions to SU.
To all of the hard-working members of the Crewniverse: Rebecca said it best "THE CREW MAKES THE SHOW!!!" all of you have always delivered the best and your contributions for the last 7 years will be loved for years to come.
Aivi & Surasshu- the composition these two made is beautiful, the high quality of music they delivered the past 7 years is amazing and thank you for some of the great music and what music they work on in the future I look forward to enjoying.
The Voice Actors:
Zach Callison: He is my age, He is 22, and he's Performance as Steven was amazing and he is an amazing Singer, I happy that now he is pursuing and growing his music talents outside from the show, I see him having great success after SU, and I wish him the best. Thank You for being the voice that is Steven.
Deedee Magno Hall: The Motherly performance she displayed as Pearl always fantastic, she has made us laugh she has made us cry. Thank you for being an amazing Pearl.
Michaela Dietz: An Amazing Personality they forever brought the amazingness of Amethyst, being able to show Humor and Sarcasm, but also show the Feels on the characters insecurities, that is amazing displayed of emotional heartfelt talent and thank you for being great embodiment of Amethyst.
Estelle: How Much More Can I already complement for someone who before SU has displayed at being an amazing Singer, Songwriter, Rapper, Producer & Actress. There is no one who was ever best to be voice of Garnet than Estelle, thank you for being a voice to amazing character like Garnet.
Shelby Rabara- Come On, I have to give praise to the voice of a character that went from being the one that i disliking and evolving to become the best and my personal favorite Crystal gem from the entire serise, there are huge majority of SU fans that when it comes to favorite gem, 100% it's Peridot, Peridot is Awesometaculer, thank you for providing the voice to Peridot.
To every voice talent that have been on SU: Charlynn Yi, Erica Luttrell, Tom Scharpling, Grace Rolek, Matthew Moy, Kate Micucci, Susan Egan, Jennifer Paz, Kimberly Brooks, Uzo Aduba, Patti Lupone, Lisa Hannigan, Christine Ebersole, Dee Bradley Baker, Sarah Stilles, Crispin Freeman, Sinbad, Nicki Minaj, AJ Michalka, Cristina Vee. Every Voice Actor Who Was On SU, In A Small or Reccuring during the show's 7 Year run, Your Preformances werw always the best.
Also, I will Thank the Fandom, Now the SU Fandom I been given mixed opinions On but what Fandom doesn't, I will be honest that for me personally I have had Positive Interactions in this Fandom, I am Grateful to be involved in it for the past 7 Years.
In Conclusion: Yes the show is ending but Happy Ever After Never Ends, someday we will see Steven and Gems again, maybe in a Graphic Novel Serise or even as HBO Max Miniseries (I wouldn't enjoy that, but I would understand if it happens) and even not involving SU, I'm looking forward to whatever Rebecca, Ian or Other Members of the Crewniverse will create.
Thank You, Steven Universe
This is the best show on Cartoon Network since Code Lyoko.
We Will Always Be Your Family.
This is a beautiful comment
@@blazesalamancer8767 Thank You
TL;DR You like the show.
I mean, the hug was exactly what Steven needed though. It would have been cool if the confrontation had been dragged out longer and you got to see more carnage and cool stuff goin' done, but that's exactly what it would have been: dragging it out. It would have been COOL filler, but it still would have been filler. Steven was having a mental crisis and the best way to push past it in the moment was the simple assurance that everybody he loved was there for him and wanted to help him. You might say that it could have been interesting if it took them longer to reach that conclusion, but I don't think figuring out what Steven needed was necessarily the hard part-- it was getting Steven to _listen_ to them and stop avoiding the issue, and nothing forced that to happen more than Steven physically turning into a kaiju sized abomination. A _literal_ Godzilla Threshold, as it were.
The Diamonds and Spinel sobbing about how _their fault_ it was was definitely weird, though. Like I know the idea was that it was _supposed_ to be melodramatic, because it was supposed to highlight how it wasn't actually accomplishing anything and was borderline a selfish thing to do at that juncture and they might have even been faking it on some level for "reformation cred", but it still came out of nowhere and really clashed with the rest of the episode. Not to mention all the Diamonds suddenly having their regret dialed up to 1000. Like I guess Steven turning into a monster was the straw that broke the camel's back, but none of them really seemed _all_ that broken up about any of the stuff they did before.
See, you call it filler, but I think that kind of filler is necessary. If you resolve something too quickly or too easily, some people feel that, in the end, there wasn't any agency or brevity to the situation. A bit of tension building and extra happenings inbetween help solidify the concept, give it weight, give it presence and make it much more satisfying to resolve.
If every time someone turns into a giant monster it can be solved with a big hug, then the IDEA of someone turning into a monster isn't scary or threatening since it can be fixed quickly and efficiently without much happening.
Know what I mean?
@@Rohtix I think you meant to say gravity instead of brevity, but yeah I get what you're saying.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that as cool as it would have been to give some more pomp and circumstance to Monster Steven's whole biz, it was more important to focus on what had to be done.
A scene where Steven's lashing out ended up damaging some of Beach City (I don't think he would have rampaged, necessarily: Monster Steven only really became aggressive once the Gems were actively spurring him on to lure him where they could restrain him-- before that, him smashing his head into the cliffside, and latching onto the side of the mountain and roaring, seemed more like him just flailing in the throes of his breakdown) and the Gems tried to hold him back (not actively FIGHT BACK, that would have been a very irresponsible and counterproductive thing to do since it would only solidify Steven's belief that he was a monster that needed to be dealt with) would have been a much more satisfying way to build up to the eventual solution, but I think in the end it came down to them just not having enough runtime and wanting to zero in on what was most important.
_Maybe_ they coulda sacrificed an episode or two from the first half to stretch the conflict out, but... idk. At that point you're getting more into the real-life aspect of the storytelling, that being the limitations imposed by factors outside of the writer's control, and given how pretty much every episode in the latter half of the series contributed directly towards the ultimate arc of Steven's downward spiral, it would have been really odd for one or two of those episodes to have come out before the mid-series hiatus.
"it felt resolved very quickly" that basically sums up the entirety of steven universe. i love the show but god is the pacing weird throughout
The end of the era also means the end of my childhood. All the cartoons I’ve watched from my childhood till college time are all over. Best I can do now is move on and hope the upcoming cartoons and current cartoons will do good for the current gen. At least I can still watch the old cartoons occasionally on the Internet.
Well thanks for reminding me that my childhood is absolutely dead now lol
It made sense for Steven to not go around destroying things. The whole episode was about Steven's problems, and how for once, he needs to accept help from everyone else, rather than being the helper like he thinks he needs to be. Having him also be a deadly threat would've muddied the message.
Also, the whole thing was literally a meltdown triggered by PTSD (they mention that in the last episode), and portraying that as a great threat to others would really send a bad message about people with mental illnesses.
I think the issue is overall we know the Schtick of Steven Universe to the point it’s basically a meme now lol: “You can be a fascist and solely believe in evil ways of destroying all of life, but can be redeemed by a child saying “you’re wrong, just love each other” .... it isn’t necessarily going to fix that over and over again tbh” - me lol
I think a lot of the issues people have, especially with this ending (which makes the most sense tbh out of all the redemption arcs), is that a lot of bad guys are very redeeming when they shouldn’t be, especially the Diamonds. Granted, I think Sugar has an interesting take on these arcs and how it reflects to our reality; in that, human brains, in real life, have that switch/change of beliefs and values and how people who commit atrocities or are bad are not “inherently” bad... it’s just wiring issues.
That makes me think of cognitive therapy and rewiring your brain. Although easier said than done with psychopaths, narcissists, sociopaths, and the like.
@@micahcook2408 But this ending does address that though. It holds the Diamonds and everyone else accountable for how they've affected Steven. In that regard, it's actually better than Change Your Mind and the Movie.
D Reye no I agree!! I was just playing devils advocate because of Saber’s comment on it. That’s why I commented that this ending makes the most sense out of all the redemption arcs. I think people and/or fans who felt this ending was “shallow” is only because of being over saturated and desensitized to most of the ‘bad behavior’ being settled with a hug and a muffin. But Steven needed that the MOST since he was the one being dried of it on and on, episode after episode.
@@micahcook2408 I appreciated that they actually explored Steven's trauma and anger and how someone like him would deal with it, or in this case not deal with it. Steven Universe was always about taking human emotions and putting them in the forefront between character interactions and conflicts. Steven was an empath to the nth degree and that's a lot of weight to carry around, especially for a teenager. Add trauma, anger, self-doubt from not meeting high expectations, exhaustion, and heartbreak, that emotional instability can cause real damage to oneself and the people around you if you choose not to address it. Steven didn't know how to address it cause he never learned from anybody how to. That's why he believed his friends and family didn't understand. He didn't need to just be told that he was loved and cared about. He needed to feel it. I don't think many people realize how underrated true honest affection from the people how truly care about you is. Sometimes it can be reassuring or even life-saving.
D Reye news flash the show already send a bad message about mental illness since a literal teenager with mental illness pointed how badly written and insulting most of future was and it’s ironic since this angst stuff it’s based on rebecas therapy
Steven Universe Future was a lot of wasted potential. There were episodes that we could have done without. like the Aquamarine/Ruby episode (or as I like to call them, Shitbee and Stinkeye). Or the dual Lapis episodes.
Also I was getting annoyed with the whole "suddenly I fucking HATE MY MOM and you should all hate her too" angle they were going with it. Felt like a played out form of cancel culture on Rose Quartz, she was being judged for her past more than what she had set out to do post-PD compared to what everyone judged her for.
Things are too inconsistent. And the ending was just a big disappointment to me. I felt letdown a little hard.
The Lapis were so interesting omg they were what I wanted to see throughout the whole season! Their attitude is a stark contrast to Steven's it would been fascinating
@@hung9839 yes but they didnt really bring anything to the playing out of Steven coming to terms with no one else needing saved. They were just there, and their episode didnt do enough to progress the story. And in a side series that only has one season to try to wrap up a story and world that people have been following for years, that episode being there was... tbh kind of pointless.
I absolutely agree with you on how they just switched to utter hatred and disdain for Rose Quartz!! It should've been dealt with overall acceptance, not hatred. Rose was their beloved and relatively "deceased" leader and comrade who fought for their freedom and blessed them with Steven and their new home, Earth. I agree, its easy to think her motives may have been questionable after so much is shown about her in such a way, but I chalk that up to the perspectives we are given!! It's rare that we get to see inside Rose's internal motives and dialogue. but at the end of the day, Rose wasn't just playing. This all was a very serious and a very costly rebellion and Rose clearly had the strength, courage, and humanity to rebel against both her family, her homeworld, her mold, and a very evil and powerful dictatorship in favor of giving and experiencing freedom love and growth that would forever impact the way their civilization would develop... And Rose never got a redemption arc!! They just kept weighing her character down with flaws and wrongdoings and just ended up leaving her as the most hated character at the end of the series in a show where the bad guys are forgiven and redeemed!! 🤦♀️🤷♀️ what I would give to have Adult Steven come to real terms of acceptance and understanding with his deceased mother-- for his sake, he deserves not to live with disdain of her! And she deserves to be remembered as flawed, imperfect, strong, courageous, loving, and above all more human than any other gem.
It does kinda bother me how the early seasons placed Pink on this massively high pedestal as a kind and benevolent figure who could do no wrong, only to end it with her basically being considered a cruel, abusive, manipulative monster and a coward who let her son deal with her problems. I'm all for a seemingly perfect character having more of their flaws revealed, but it went too far. A fine balance would be Pink being a bratty, short-tempered child, but learning and growing and coming to appreciate all around her. That's basically what her character is, but the show basically glosses over it or overshadows her growth by her wrongdoings prior to coming to Earth.
"Rose Quartz was a selfless leader who risked being shattered for the sake of all life on Earth."
"Yeah, but she also abused her previous Pearl and broke her."
@@SaiyanGamer95 Exactly. EXACTLY. PD needed flaws. But they took it too far. And because this was all deconstruction in reverse, you can't really gauge how bad it is because the stuff furthest in the past becomes the freshest for us, the viewer. It was not well written, and it made an unnecessary villain out of Steven.
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.
Indeed
No shit...
You forgot to put
"-Dr Seuss'
So don't try to steal his quote
Yeah,and it had an ending.
Remember when everytime a new gem was revealed it was like a smash character reveal???
Saber: I’m trying to think of story driven shows
Gravity falls: am I a joke to you?!?
It's funny, I felt like the anxiety/depression angle the show was going for just didn't quite work. I myself go through some pretty serious depression. Well I know the experiences I have had aren't universal but, I think everyone can agree that the people important to them know when something is wrong. The gems just didn't seem to notice until the very end that Steven was having problems.
Rachel Bonomo thank you I also feel that way also most of stevens trauma barely makes any sense because by the shows logic Connie should be traumatized to because she was with Steven when that stuff happened to him but the only thing she was ever traumatized about was a karate move she made on accident
Rachel Bonomo the gems noticed very early. See: snow day. They just didn’t know how to handle steven, so they ignored me
Carla Carrero steven had to deal with a lot more stuff than connie. And some people handle traumatic events differently 🤦♂️ the same events don’t give everyone PTSD 🤦♂️
Not only did it not work they handled it horribly. Like for instance connie broke the kid's arm for having a panic attack and then brushed it off like it was nothing and that the only issue was connie needed to manage her anxiety better and not...like... wailing on people.
For me atleast the ending felt:
Nothing
It doesnt make me sad
doesnt make me angry
doesnt make me happy
I felt basically nothing
Yeah it was pretty boring
You have like no heart then
@@cerealjam fair enough
@@cerealjam Guess I'll die then since I have *no* heart.
I felt underwhelmed
The fact that Steven was supposed to represent people with mental health issues, but instead came off as a sociopathic weirdo is what bothers me. People with mental health problems/illness don't kill people, they aren't assholes to everyone around them(maybe if he was a representation of people who are bi polar personality disorder, even that's a stretch), and their problems aren't solved with simple hugs and therapy.
@@MissedBandwagon I understand these traits exist and some people with mental health issues/mental disorders can be cunts when they aren't in control depending on what you're suffering with. However realistically, that's not the case with Steven AT ALL. That small fraction, are people who have been through extreme abuse and have been emotionally scarred from the toxic relationships they've been experienced from on top of their already struggling mental health. I've met those cases, I *know* those cases, Steven having all those traits of the extreme is highly unlikely as he has NEVER shown signs nor the emotional immaturity at all in the series to developing these traits. They don't randomly pop up, they start at a very young age, not right in the middle of teenage years.
I think it really depends on the person. In my opinion, he was representing a mental crisis which means they have become a danger to them self or others. No, this doesn’t represent mental illness as a whole, it can’t. But it fits with how the team wrote Steven’s breakdown. He did destroy things, and I think they could’ve represented it as something in his head but i think it was a fitting ending.
Im just a stupid a__hole I dont know what you guys just said
As someone with mental illness, symptoms aren’t always pretty and tragic. Sometimes mental illness makes you an asshole. Sometimes mental illness makes you irrationally angry. Sometimes mental illness makes you selfish. It doesn’t excuse those actions by any means, but it can explain them. Also sociopathy is anti-social personality disorder, which is a mental illness sooooo
You should do a review on Mao Mao: Heroes of Pure Heart. It came out back in July of last year and the creator of the show is Parker Simmons who used to work on OK KO. It's very underrated and not much people talk about it. It's an amazing show and definitely worth watching.
Steven Universe was one of those rare kid shows where the theme was always about relationships. And while some people complain about the series and Movie on Steven not killing anyone or beating someone to submission and victory (like literally EVERY series out there) I can't help but think of a Marge Simpson quote and why I like Steven Universe as a whole..
"It was nice to see a movie where people solve their problems with words,.. instead of bullets and chasing."
I mean if the therapy hug bother you then maybe just go watch all those other shows that have that "punch it till dies!!" or "Do X to save X and beat X" resolution.
I heard some people were saying that it was really dumb that they did not fight giant Steven but you don't stop a depressed person by beating the shit out of them
leyen
But... he wasn’t just a depressed person... he was a giant monster threatening hundreds of lives. Yes, don’t kill or seriously harm him but they needed to secure him. Just hugging him is boring and cliche.
@@tannerlawley8435 It's fine if you didn't like it and thought the hugging was cliche but:
1) He became a giant monster BECAUSE he was depressed and hated himself to the point where he believed himself to be one.
2) Lapis did try restraining him with the same water chains from Reunited, and it didn't work.
3)The hugging could've been done better, but tbh it's like leyen said; you don't punch the absolute crap out of a depressed person. Also, if they did, it would've either ended horribly or the same kind of way anyway.
And finally 4) SU is and always has been about relationships, feelings and communication, not fighting, blood, guts and gore.
I sincerely apologise for the long rant, especially if it annoys you or anyone, I just felt like I had to put this out there even though it's probably uneeded
Emelem Red
I can see what you mean, but I think the best way would be to have them try and attack Steven for a bit to subdue him, but realize the reason he turned into the monster was because he felt like a monster, and then they would try and hug and comfort him. I’m just saying, the way the show handled it was just boring, but it’s not exactly their fault, with their 11 minute runtime and all.
@@tannerlawley8435 I get what you are saying they had to hold him down to stop him from hurting people and gems but some people were saying that the gems had to beat him to the ground to stop him which I think destroys the point of the show but if you don't like it I understand I have my own problems with the ending
This show got me through a good chunk of years, when I was at my lowest, just sticking around to see how Steven and the gems turned out.
It's really been something for a lot of us. The plot, characters, dialogue, and lessons. The music, the representation, and the relatability. Thanks crewniverse.
This is probably the quickest i've ever been and will be.
But are you quicker than my dad with a belt?
Quicker than a priest from behind?
@@leonishikino6873 But I am quicker than your dad getting milk.
The thing about everyone freaking out about the whole mess being their fault was necessary, I feel. I don't think it was intended to just be levity -- the thing is, everyone's **right.** They **did** mess things up. Everyone has. The point of it was to show that even so, it wasn't the time to mope about that -- because Steven needed help **now.** Because, you know, that's... literally what Connie comes by to say.
I dunno I thought it was way too cheesy. If it were a few like Pearl or Amethyst, Garnet I'd get that but the Diamonds and Spinel just sobbing was just weird and off putting. Tonal mess.
For me who's only seen a few episodes and seen how the fandom is just didn't get into it. My problem is that Steven is to much of a punchingbag in the series. I feel his archetype of being the shield hampered the his growth. His break should be mid show run not in the end. I've seen better pacifist characters who defend first but when the going gets tough they swing back( though one chews out everyone for why he had to resort to fighting) the characters are Nikki Bassari from Macross 7 and Luran Cehack from Gundam Turn A. Sorry for the long winded response but its just how I view it.
@@barrybend7189 He was willingly a punching bag through the entire show because he was a child. Take a kid who's no older than 14 and who was taught no problem solving skills or had any self defense lessons. Now throw him in mortal danger every few months where his decisions not only could cost him his life, but also those around him. Being a punching bag was all he knew how to do. It normally solved his problems, so he kept doing what worked. Now that he can feel somewhat safe again, the trauma he faced all through life came back to haunt him. In my opinion and through personal experience, this breakdown happened at a completely normal time.
@@nolyricsneeded8424 the problem is the fact he never broke in a heavy scenario. He's *never* lashed out. I've been through bullying situations and rarely does being the punching bag actually help solve a problem. I know this sounds like something they'd never teach in schools( I was around the Zero tolerance of violence thing). But just taking hits never shows how strong you are. If you are faced with a confrontation you have to meet it head on and match it at least in defence. What Steven is doing is not what should be taught to any kid. As said my examples are of characters that are in a way pacifists but they don't subscribe to complete pacifism where you are just a barrier.
@@barrybend7189 Im not saying what should or shouldn't be done. He is a flawed person. That's how he grew up. He doesn't solve issues in a productive way because he doesn't know how.
Also, If he fought back against homeworld gems like they were humans, he would have been straight up shattered and killed on the spot. It's like handing a child a pocket knife and telling them to fight against a knight in full armor weilding a gun. The only thing he could do in the situation is be a punching bag in hopes that the enemy would have mercy for him.
You can't expect a child to know how to defend himself in a practical warzone.
This was far more the bullying.
A lot of people think the "hug" was cliche but if you have that much self doubt and trauma, it really helps for you to know that people love you. The hug wasn't the thing that solved all of his problems, after "I am my monser" Steven started having therapy and it took a will for steven to recover. ( Also it's Steven Universe, how else are they going to solve a problem?)
*Steven murders Jasper*
"Obviously, it didn't work out-"
*_[I can't believe we never saw the Ruby squad again after room for ruby... no, Eyeball doesn't count]_*
*[Huh, you're here. I guess some of the ruby squad became Nanefua's guards though. Anyways I need to put on my mask. Wait gems can't get si--]*
Time for an all-ruby spin-off sitcom?
1:57
I just realised, is Steven wearing his Dad's old shirt in Future? Because Steven's shirt in Future looks identical to that. I may have missed a point where Greg gave it to Steven, but I don't remember any scenes like that. Anyways, it's kinda cool to discuss.
*The only part I wanted him to talk about is how he temporarily killed Jasper*
Jellyman4 Boom47 he did
@@mujiescomedy279 I mean ACTUALLY talk about it,I wanted him to go more in depth about how the good little hero just committed murder,and then has a large impact on the later story
Jellyman4 Boom47 they didn’t really have time in between when he told them and when he turned into a monster...
@@mujiescomedy279 Thats true
@@Jellyman4 RIGHT??????
I disagree with you primarily about the everyone blaming themselves scene. It seems over dramatic and comical, but it's pretty similar to reality. I have personal experience being surrounded by people who make your problems about themselves and it's almost always over the top crying and wailing, even when I'm not crying. It's a self centered thing, they need to feel their "guilt" more strongly than you feel your problem, so it becomes so much more dramatic than would make sense.
I agree with you completely. As a recovering narcissist, I've experienced this from both sides. Over the top "woe is me" by the abuser is a tactic to turn blame into pity.
BIG difference between drama wailing and comedic wailing. This whole season annoyed the heck out of me, because they kept making lowkey jokes like that stupid scene where Steven is suddenly Cinderella.
Lmao this season was annoying as fuck
@@inspectorspinda That wasn't a joke.
This entire season just felt like the worst kind of fanfiction. It was poorly written, stupid, annoying, lacked any consistency with the character writing, was brain dead at its own ineptitude many times. Made horrifically unfunny jokes, left mysteries and plot threads unanswered, gave a piss poor representation of trauma, and left with a dangerous message that it’s okay to run away from your problems as long as you believe it’s for the greater good.
I really hope this show doesn’t come back.
It's been so long. I felt attached to these weirdos. Especially Lapis and Peridot. As silly as it is, I felt as if these guys were family. I felt overjoyed when they were happy and devastated when they were sad (Screw you Lapis and Spinel). I felt proud and happy for their accomplishments. And now that it's over, it's hard to let go and say goodbye. Steven Universe and Friends, you will be sorely missed. On the bright side, my girlfriend just started watching this show, so at least I get to revisit these weirdos.
Day: 17 of asking Saberspark to review Trolls world tour.
Ngl, watching that last season of steven universe was an emotional train ride
I watched all of steven universe and future with a group of my best friends (one of which is a gigantic SU fan) and we were all bawling honestly
Good vid I honestly love your content keep up the good work :)
I feel like the ending is quite rushed.
that's it, that's what I only wanted to say
Which is nuts considering they’ve already had one rushed ending already.
Its cuz Cartoon Network kept rushing the Crewniverse like bruh CN FUCK YOU GUYS
@@brianbriones2815 yep :(
Blehbl Blehbl do u have any links to prove it ? Also, the show had five seasons ( six if u include future ) there is no excuse to waste time and then rush it at the end
the whole episode was filler so of course she would rush instead of using her time good
Also keep in mind Rebecca Sugar has said they took a lot of inspiration from Shonen Anime where talking and hugging and the power of love and friendship solves stuff like this all the time.
except that usually happens as they die..then they die from the gaping bloody hole regretting the evil they wrought in their final moments.
That works in yugioh where the theme IS FRIENDSHIP but here the theme was mental illness and overcoming it. Hugs don't solve this problem
@@thatonefan3919 actually it's about cheating and carrying tournament banned cards.
Sugar and the whole crew are fucking hacks,
I'd have given the show props for making Steven the final antagonist if we hadn't predicted it the moment the intro dropped. I actually kinda wish kaiju Steven wasn't there so it would've been more surprising when he transformed.
Funny thing is, when steven shattered jasper, had a mental breakdown in the hospital, and had that moment with white, I cried. Those moments had the proper emotions in them to bring out how heavy the situation is. But when the ending with the foreshadowing happened, when he corrupted into his monster, THE MOMENT I HAD BEEN WAITING FOR FOR MONTHS, i didnt cry or feel anything. I was only excited about my theory being proven true, but the proper emotions weren't there. It wasn't heavy, like it had been before. I was let down by that. When it ended with him leaving Beach City, i was upset and disappointed. I ended up crying for weeks. My childhood show had ended and the ending didn't satisfy me at all. Im still upset about it but yeah. CN just wanted to cut it short and it wasn't right
i like to think that steven turning into a monster was more of a panic atack- if you look at his movements thay are more self destructive and almost scared like- he hugs the cliff scratching at it as he screams- he gets restrained by these suden chains and hes upset so he attacks them. Its very similer to a panick attack and i think the hug was a good way to end it.
As someone with anxiety disorder and who has experienced panic attacks before, I think they really hit the nail on the head with Future and its ending, and I saw myself in Steven in many of the episodes (that whole "I feel like I'm dying" thing... I related to that so hard). When I saw Steven corrupt, he seemed to have a much more scared reaction rather than dangerous and rampaging (he eas mostly just running around and roaring), which I think complements his character and really explains why he didn't go full-on destructive monster. Because even though he thought he was a monster, he's always been a gentle soul with a troubled mind, and the point of the gems hugging him and reassuring him was to drive that aspect home.
@@Rainygirl3100 I agree. As someone with also an anxiety disorder, panic attacks doesn't make you angry. It makes you afraid of anything at that moment. And I saw myself with Steven being a monster. Feeling like a fraud, trauma, anxiety, and depression is one ticking bomb. His actions showed " Get away from me! I might hurt you!" And it also shows his self-harm by hitting his head at the temple. He flinches at every touch, so it was best that Garnet was the first to give him a hug. It was firm yet loving. It made Steven feel grounded and come back to his senses. The kiss was the cherry on top. It didn't heal him, per say, but it was the catalyst on his path of recovery.
@@Rainygirl3100 anxiety and ptsd nor any mental illness or bad mental health issues makes you go around being in denial or treating everyone around you like crap. And the random outburst for no reason is not how it works. I understand not everyone has the same experience, and I'm definitely not undermining your experience. Steven's self corruption representing a panic attack is the worst absolute metaphor ever. Since the build up to it was inconsistent asf, and the *hEs a tEEnaGeR* does not make it an excuse for the way he acted and portrayed leading up for that specific moment to exist.
@@DashawnLoves Are you kidding me? It sounds to me like you've never experienced a panic attack before. Or maybe you have and your symptoms are different, I shouldn't make assumptions. But generally, anxiety builds in the background over time from stress. It can make you have mood swings and lash out at people you love, or bottle up your emotions because you don't want people to worry about you, or you tell yourself over and over again that you're fine, that you're being irrational or your brain is being dumb, which leads to mistrust in yourself. You might make poor decisions wanting to avoid the feelings of fear, and act differently around the people you love in avoidance (sometimes pushing them away altogether). Panic attacks are a release of all that pent-up fear and negativity, they can happen at any time and for any reason, even when you seemingly have nothing to be scared of or there aren't any nearby threats. They can feel like you're losing control, like you're dying, like your head is spinning and you're going crazy, like your heart is going to burst out of your chest, and your thoughts are simultaneously hyperactive but blank with adrenaline. If that doesn't make sense in Steven's context I don't know what would.
@@Rainygirl3100 I've never heard anyone describe it so well. I relate heavily to this & wish in general more people understood it.
The whole thing was just several hours of Steven having a breakdown.
Agreed but it was heartwrenching and I liked those parts. Aside from the plot issues with unshattering and the Diamond Arc, the show had many amazing writing moments. Bad pacing and sometimes bad writing, but sometimes really really good writing.
I really like this review. It doesn’t completely shit on all of future, it shows it’s perks and then gives a CONSTRUCTIVE critique. I thought some of the episodes were cringe and there were a lot of things that I didn’t absolutely love (that you mentioned) and yeah idk most reviews on future at least to me are just shitting on the fact that it even exists. Idk I love your reviews lol
0:36 OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUD
More like CLOD
I'm gonna kill myself from using that joke
@@saurodude shut up it made me laugh and I'm not sorry it did lol
@@snowflower5332 thank you
No, it's cloud yells at old man.
In America old man Yells at cloud in Russia cloud Yells at old man
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but they only have 11 minutes to work with :/. I really do wish that episode was longer though sadly 😭😭😭😭
Agreed. I love what we got, but the finale REALLY should've been longer. I still unironically believe that CN hated this show, 'cause they were alarmingly unfair to it in terms of timeslots and hiatuses.
Pretty much my thoughts on this finale and everything overall. Hopefully this helps spawn more cartoons that learn from the good and the bad and take these ideas to new levels! Still definitely enjoyed and like you said totally forgivable considering the fantastic moments
honestly, the only thing i didn't like about SU:F finale was the gems over-crying and then immediately hugging Steven to fix everything. THAT was definitely more MyLittlePony then even MyLittlePony ever did. Other than that, SU:F was overall a pretty good conclusion-series:)
I’d argue that the hug didn’t fix everything. It’s more like the hug made Steven realize that people were there for him, that they loved him. Because even after he changes back he’s still in a bad place mentally. He’s still crying and scared of himself. The hug didn’t fix everything. But I’d did give him the motivation to help himself. At least that’s how I saw it.
Mario Carrillo oh I totally agree with that. Even just having an episode where he finds a therapist would have been nice.
@Mario Carrillo I remember seeing an interview from Rebecca Sugar that she didn't want to show Steven getting therapy because she believed that it was a private thing, which I get the point. I think it's also for the time constraints, because CN probably only really granted the crewniverse 20 episodes of SU:F. We do get the idea that it was a long and still on-going process by the time of the last episode, because it had been a few months after the events of his meltdown and he's still in constant contact with his therapist.
Yeah, I didn't like it at all but I know that feeling of "being a monster that just ruin everything" and, how you just need a hug from someone you love to help you return to the real world, so I think it makes sense
kpop girl I think the issue is overall we know the Schtick of Steven Universe to the point it’s basically a meme now lol: “You can be a fascist and solely believe in evil ways of destroying all of life, but can be redeemed by a child saying “you’re wrong, just love each other” .... it isn’t necessarily going to fix that over and over again tbh” - me lol
I think a lot of the issues people have, especially with this ending (which makes the most sense tbh out of all the redemption arcs), is that a lot of bad guys are very redeeming when they shouldn’t be, especially the Diamonds. Granted, I think Sugar has an interesting take on these arcs and how it reflects to our reality; in that, human brains, in real life, have that switch/change of beliefs and values and how people who commit atrocities or are bad are not “inherently” bad... it’s just wiring issues.
That makes me think of cognitive therapy and rewiring your brain. Although easier said than done with psychopaths, narcissists, sociopaths, and the like.
I lived through 2 decades of Cartoon Network Orginal classics , so it's pretty sad to know yet another Era of the channel's history has come to a close , but the memories of those shows I'll definitely cherish forever and look forward to the future of what CN has to offer.
I liked Future overall, but I went into it knowing that it was rushed and short; not unlike the last season of Gotham. Honestly, I think the stuff with Steven was the weakest part, except for the development and dynamic he built with Jasper. The Jasper stuff was good because she offered him something that the other gems couldn't and I wish that was expanded on more and played more into the finale of it all. But yeah, the whole "and the power of friendship/love saved the day" ending was weak and disappointing.
The cursed 11 minutes restriction. You gotta do what you gotta do, after all.
Nah, I don't think they were adding levity with the dramatics by the diamonds. By having them be so extra, it really drove home the message when connie came in and pointed out that they were still being selfish and manipulative, even in steven's great time of need.
Hot take: your criticisms about the hug/quick resolution we’re answered by Connie reminding them that *is* their fault, and yes, it could’ve been longer. I didn’t expect it to be, because I know Sugar & Co. aren’t great at drawn-out intense conflict.
BUT. As someone who has dealt with trauma, guilt, and emotions, this was a wonderful representation of it. They did a great job handling it in a way you could still show to a child. So, the quick resolution wasn’t upsetting to me. I know that this is still a kids’ show. I want my niece & nephew to watch it.
I feel the same way. I just caught up and finished the series, and it really trudged up a lot of unresolved issues I still have IRL.
I felt like the built up in the season was so realistic, that it hurt me a lot thinking about the anxiety and depression I've been fighting my whole life. That being said, I think it just goes to show how effective the show runners were at what they set out to do.
It's a kids show that was able to express mental health battles, childhood trauma, and the importance of therapy and support systems.
9:28 Excuse me! I'll have you know, good sir, that in MLP, they would have kicked butt, and *then* redeem the antagonist with friendship lasers! The audacity! 😤
Buuuut this time there was no redeeming, just stoning 2 villains AND A CHILD.
@@dazzrex And this is why MLP is more hardcore than SU when it comes to villains. Lol
@@blueteller the villains yes. Idk why but the seven universe villains were never intimidating to me. But villains like the satan tirek, the bug chrysalis and the psychotic cozy just felt like villains more even discord and he was more of a joke
@@BilgeRadić Because there IS no intimidating villains in SU. There are villains that seem *temporarily* intimidating when they're first introduced: such as Yellow and White Diamond. But since that show can't stick to "evil" and always plays the "misunderstood" card, no villain STAYS a villain and you can't help but notice it. Just like you know no one is going to die (except Lars, but he didn't even *stay* dead for a whole minute!), you know all the antagonists will join the good guys eventually.