In my experience with Henry rifles and their 22 line (I have about 30 different Henry guns) is they work best with the Skinner sights, the ones that mount in the dovetails on the barrel. Scopes? Never had much luck staying zeroed very weak due the inherit design of the Henry rifles with the “shroud” or cover that encases the receiver. It is a point of movement. So, I’d be a buyer on a scope mount system that worked with existing dove tail mount on the barrel, like the one on my Evil Roy 22LR and 22 mag. As always LOVE your channel, you are good dude and I hope you get as many folks watching your channel as possible, you deliver the goods.
Sister in law was stopping by today so I broke out the ol 10/22. I cleared the KYL rack @ 50 yards and was pretty impressed with my setup, she promptly hit every target on the next 10. What a blast- was very proud. Have to build one for her to have as her own now so she gets into it and drags the kids out!
Just a thought here. The scope is mounted to a metal shroud that covers the actual receiver sort of like a Remington nylon 66. You might want to check the torque on those screws that hold the shroud tight to make sure that you aren’t getting some minute movement causing your point of aim to shift slightly.
OK Marine...retired navy here (GMCM). I have the Henry Golden Boy. Put a scope on it and couldn't hit the target. Best bet, take the scope off and use iron sights. Thinking of using a peep sight. I just don't think these Henry rifles were made for scopes - others will prove me wrong but I'm going back to the basics for this gun.. Enjoy your videos and thanks.
Yes it absolutely makes me doubt the scope. May take the scope off and try another OR go back to iron sights. I have not shot this on in so long but I do remember it shooting better than this I thought. I feel like honestly I should be able to get 1 to 2in groups more consistently. As a varmint hunter this rifle would not have missed much and still to me an option and a load of fun.
Hi Eli, I have that same rifle. When my step dad was diagnosed with Alzheimer's he had to get rid of his gun collection. I bought as many as I could and I sold a lot of them for him. He gave me the Henry H001 at Christmas because I had said that I always wanted a lever action 22 rifle. So hopefully I can get some 22 rings, put a scope on it and see if I can shoot the challenge. Of course I'll need to see what ammo it likes as well.
Well i have tried all of that ammo and can plinkers are about all they are. But thank goodness for them we can throw a lot of lead down range and not cost a arm and a leg. I enjoy your videos Sarge and thank you for them!
Thank you for another informative video. I look forward to seeing if you have different results with either shooting with just the irons or a different optic.
Before pitching the scope, make sure all your mounts are well seated and the screws are tight without being over torqued. When you shoot, remove your hand from the forearm and lay the forearm on sand bags when you shoot. Just a thought, may or may not help.
My experience: In 2020 I purchased a Ruger American Standard with 22' barrel with poly stock and put a $29 3x9 scope on it. Any ammo was good ammo then. After shooting it a couple of hundred rounds, I decided to challenge myself at 100 yds. I began "ammo testing" four brands a range visit. After working my way through the high velocity types, I came across CCI Standard velocity; it was far more consistent.Then an online seller in Florida advertised S&B Club, graphite-impregnated rounds. It was marginally better. I am able to hold a 1 1/2" group unless it gets too windy. This impressed no one except my eight-year-old granddaughter and myself. But it is fun and less money than .45ACP and even 9mm. P.S. That is Remington Thunderbolt which is much better quality (IMO) than Golden Bullet.
I have a Henry that looks identical to that the one you’re shooting. Bought it because it will chamber 22 short through LR ammo. You it for a pest problem. It solved the pest problem. Unfortunately I not had good results with it the few times I’ve played with it at the range. I’ve not tried multiple ammo brands through it. Was rather disappointed with accuracy. It’s been in the gun safe for several years now. Maybe I’ll bring it back out.
I was betting on blazer getting her done ! Idk bud , I see the bench wobblin. Holding the rifle like that has to be hard . Do you think all the external variables for overall stability are coming into play here ?
If I were a betting man, I would have went all in on CCi standard velocity. I have a love hate relationship with with Federal, Automatch isn’t bad (a little fast for my preference), but the bulk BYOB patterned like a shotgun. I’ll just echo the others, double check your torques on the scope and rifle.
As others are bringing up the scope, one of the things I notice is how high it is mounted. I understand why this is with this particular scope/rifle combination, due to clearance issues between the rear sight and objective lens. This is causing you to not have any sort of consistent cheek weld to the butt stock of the rifle. You may try a different scope with smaller objective lens and lower rings or build up the stock with some pipe insulation and vet wrap so you can get a consistent cheek weld with your eye centered behind the optic. With a consistent cheek weld and eye alignment, I suspect your groups would shrink a bit.
Either your scope is not tightened down properly, or there are screws loose on the rifle. The screw underneath at the front of the action, on top at the rear of the action, and the lever screws all need tightening on Henry’s. They come loose and accuracy gets erratic. Put blue locktite on the two receiver screws.
My pick for what’s on the table? CCI standard. Every 22 that I’ve owned that shot well like CCI. It might not be the very best but it’s good. I’m almost of the opinion that if it won’t shoot CCI, it won’t shoot.
Check the optic, check the barrel band the magazine tube band for proper tension. I would also load a round and eject it to check for any extreme deformation of the bullet. Just some thoughts.
If I hadn't already done exactly what you're doing right here with my Henry, I would have said CCi Standard Velocity 😉 But it did horrible in mine also. I have some older stuff I am going to try, though. So far, mine has done best with SK Standard Plus 😮 Yes! I am doing it again as I did not realize the bipod was not allowed 😢 I'm cleaninging tonight and going at it tomorrow, weather permitting 😉 😎 I also sent in another sportsman submission with the Crickett ... did you get it, Elijah? It did pretty decent.
scope is mounted to a receiver cover, and is not directly attached to the barrel, like bolt actions are, i found the Remington nylon was the same with a scope as the lever actions that have the action cover, that's why you shot better with open sites
I have about 10 boxes of auto match they shoot great in my keltec cp33 in I've had great luck with the aguila super extra standard velocity in my Mossberg 702 plinkster
I enjoy all your videos bro....i have the same rifle...try 38 gr Aguila super extra (small box only)...mines a tack driver with it, an only those....i shoot 50, 100, 125, 165, an 200yds with it...i just doesnt like other ammos...theyre awesome lil rifles...
@@cervus-venator I will see if I can find some fellas. I think the next round may be high velocity CCI, Aquila and Maybe even some high velocity SK Target.
That's what I was thinking. Some scopes are set for fixed parallax out to 100 yds and constant cocking means no consistent cheek weld. Also grip the handguard in the same spot each time if possible.
I may just do that with the same ammo. This scope probably has less than 300 rounds on it and was sitting in the original box. But your point is valid. Though I think from an expectation perspective I am still happy with it after all these years as it is a plinker/hunter which I expect 1 to 2in groups with. It is not meant to be a benchrest firearm.
i have wondered for quite a while how well the Henry 22lrs shoot. Never saw one shooting groups until now. Let us know If you get it sorted. But for now, based on this video, I`ll pass.
not every rifle is a 1 hole rifle. From the comments this does tell me I should probably set an expectation. Because these levers aren't meant to shoot next to 3 thousand dollar rifles. This rifle though should get a consistent with the right ammo 1 to 2inch groups and many of those weren't far off. If you think it was fun to watch trying shooting one of these levers LOL man I had a blast. As always it is good to see you my friend stopping by.
@@Dayattherange Eli, like a dummy, I sold my Winchester 9422 and Marlin 39A years ago; they shot pretty well but not on par, of course, with my Vudoo and custom Chacon 10/22. I hope Ruger will revive the 39A again and I believe they will; when they do, I will be the first in line to buy one and hope they offer it in stainless also. 👍🏼
While we all know that 22lr firearms will often show a preference for a particular brand of ammo, I believe there is a problem with the equipment. You are too good a shooter to have repeated flyers that we saw. Another poster raised questions about barrel band and magazine tension, several raised issues about the scope, etc. All are worth trying. Is the muzzle damaged? I have to believe a good .22 rifle would be expected to be more consistent.
This is Houston, you got a problem. LOL. This outing was consistently poor. And I know it was not because of your aiming skills. I shoot all of that ammo out of about 8 different 22s and only Winchester shoots that bad for me. I tend to agree that you should try a different scope. Tighten all the screws appropriately. Or , like a couple others said, open sights. I can only do open sights at 25 yards though, and not nearly as well as I used to.
Change scope Using hand as front rest didn't seem to help. I'm looking forward to seeing success for this rifle...and you! Or else...the future for that rifle doesn't seem to be looking.good..
Everything you've shot in that Henry so far has been low budget - and I'm bring kind - minute of BIG tin can ammo. Try some SK anything and I suspect that your groups will tighten considerably. Or, maybe the rifle is just a 5 or 6 moa shooter no matter the cartridge you feed it.
I'm just curious you ever feel embarrassed about how these guns are shooting? Cause you make me feel like a pro. What was that 60+ rounds down range and one shot where poa and poi were equal?
In my opinion nothing to be embarrassed about, heck it is still FUN. I have been shooting so long that I believe I have got in a groove on WHAT TO EXPECT. Meaning there are always those that believe every rifle should be a one hole group and that is just not going to be true. This being a plinking/hunting rifle I expect 1 to 2inch groups. If needed I am highly confident I could still go out right now from a standing position and still put food on the table if needed with this very rifle.
Why is it sad? It would be awesome because kids are not going to want to shoot at paper for groups they would ask to go home because of how boring it is. Now get them out with some balloons filled with water, clay pigeons and good old soda pop cans and they would be having the time of their lives and this rifle is capable of all that. I have noticed over the past few years everyone wants a 1 hole rifle or either has a 1 hole rifle that they paid 200 dollars for. If that is true they should play the lottery because they are one of the luckiest people I have seen. This is a plinking rifle and should be 1 to 2inch at 100yards its very capable.
Billy should consider a PCP adult air rifle. This is the Avenger in .22 cal shooting crossman 14.3 hp pellets at 100 yards. The rifle cost almost identical to the Henry. Ammo is under $20 for 500 pellets. I stocked up several years ago and 500 pellets were about $10. A hand pump will cost $65 on Amazon. Anyway, 10 shots at 100 yards sub 3” in light wind. th-cam.com/video/iql-kswoPik/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6NZvHXZTgvz6LQqB
In my experience with Henry rifles and their 22 line (I have about 30 different Henry guns) is they work best with the Skinner sights, the ones that mount in the dovetails on the barrel. Scopes? Never had much luck staying zeroed very weak due the inherit design of the Henry rifles with the “shroud” or cover that encases the receiver. It is a point of movement. So, I’d be a buyer on a scope mount system that worked with existing dove tail mount on the barrel, like the one on my Evil Roy 22LR and 22 mag.
As always LOVE your channel, you are good dude and I hope you get as many folks watching your channel as possible, you deliver the goods.
Sister in law was stopping by today so I broke out the ol 10/22. I cleared the KYL rack @ 50 yards and was pretty impressed with my setup, she promptly hit every target on the next 10. What a blast- was very proud. Have to build one for her to have as her own now so she gets into it and drags the kids out!
NOW THIS IS AWESOME way to go
Love your videos because they are so up beat and family oreinted. Thankyou you are a breath of fresh air.
Just a thought here. The scope is mounted to a metal shroud that covers the actual receiver sort of like a Remington nylon 66.
You might want to check the torque on those screws that hold the shroud tight to make sure that you aren’t getting some minute movement causing your point of aim to shift slightly.
I had similar issues on the Nylon 66 as well; that's why I'm not surprised this with his results with this Henry..
I’ve tried all kinds of ammo in my H001 and the federal auto match is 100% hands down Gotta be your scope Try a different one.
OK Marine...retired navy here (GMCM). I have the Henry Golden Boy. Put a scope on it and couldn't hit the target. Best bet, take the scope off and use iron sights. Thinking of using a peep sight. I just don't think these Henry rifles were made for scopes - others will prove me wrong but I'm going back to the basics for this gun.. Enjoy your videos and thanks.
Yes it absolutely makes me doubt the scope. May take the scope off and try another OR go back to iron sights. I have not shot this on in so long but I do remember it shooting better than this I thought. I feel like honestly I should be able to get 1 to 2in groups more consistently. As a varmint hunter this rifle would not have missed much and still to me an option and a load of fun.
Shot this Monday with my Browning.
MAN O MAN do that rifle have a HEAVY trigger!!!!! Was a fugly Showing. But I filmed and it will post 8/9 or 10. ❤❤
Hi Eli, I have that same rifle. When my step dad was diagnosed with Alzheimer's he had to get rid of his gun collection. I bought as many as I could and I sold a lot of them for him. He gave me the Henry H001 at Christmas because I had said that I always wanted a lever action 22 rifle. So hopefully I can get some 22 rings, put a scope on it and see if I can shoot the challenge. Of course I'll need to see what ammo it likes as well.
Well i have tried all of that ammo and can plinkers are about all they are. But thank goodness for them we can throw a lot of lead down range and not cost a arm and a leg. I enjoy your videos Sarge and thank you for them!
I have three Henry rifles and all three of mine love the cci blazers. They group real well. I think it’s the scope.
My Henry 22 loves Rem Golden Bullet. I tried everything I could through it. Feed your particular gun what it likes. Every gun is an individual.
Thank you for another informative video. I look forward to seeing if you have different results with either shooting with just the irons or a different optic.
Before pitching the scope, make sure all your mounts are well seated and the screws are tight without being over torqued. When you shoot, remove your hand from the forearm and lay the forearm on sand bags when you shoot. Just a thought, may or may not help.
My experience: In 2020 I purchased a Ruger American Standard with 22' barrel with poly stock and put a $29 3x9 scope on it. Any ammo was good ammo then. After shooting it a couple of hundred rounds, I decided to challenge myself at 100 yds. I began "ammo testing" four brands a range visit. After working my way through the high velocity types, I came across CCI Standard velocity; it was far more consistent.Then an online seller in Florida advertised S&B Club, graphite-impregnated rounds. It was marginally better. I am able to hold a 1 1/2" group unless it gets too windy. This impressed no one except my eight-year-old granddaughter and myself. But it is fun and less money than .45ACP and even 9mm. P.S. That is Remington Thunderbolt which is much better quality (IMO) than Golden Bullet.
I have many 22's my self and since you and Josh I have bought several CZ 457 with all the extras but I can't waited until it cools off to shoot.
I have a Henry that looks identical to that the one you’re shooting. Bought it because it will chamber 22 short through LR ammo. You it for a pest problem. It solved the pest problem. Unfortunately I not had good results with it the few times I’ve played with it at the range. I’ve not tried multiple ammo brands through it. Was rather disappointed with accuracy. It’s been in the gun safe for several years now. Maybe I’ll bring it back out.
I was betting on blazer getting her done ! Idk bud , I see the bench wobblin. Holding the rifle like that has to be hard . Do you think all the external variables for overall stability are coming into play here ?
If I were a betting man, I would have went all in on CCi standard velocity. I have a love hate relationship with with Federal, Automatch isn’t bad (a little fast for my preference), but the bulk BYOB patterned like a shotgun.
I’ll just echo the others, double check your torques on the scope and rifle.
Awesome Brother nothing like a good lever action
Get it done for little Billy! United we stand!
I would recommend trying another scope or use the irons. Something is just not right.
As others are bringing up the scope, one of the things I notice is how high it is mounted. I understand why this is with this particular scope/rifle combination, due to clearance issues between the rear sight and objective lens. This is causing you to not have any sort of consistent cheek weld to the butt stock of the rifle. You may try a different scope with smaller objective lens and lower rings or build up the stock with some pipe insulation and vet wrap so you can get a consistent cheek weld with your eye centered behind the optic. With a consistent cheek weld and eye alignment, I suspect your groups would shrink a bit.
Either your scope is not tightened down properly, or there are screws loose on the rifle. The screw underneath at the front of the action, on top at the rear of the action, and the lever screws all need tightening on Henry’s. They come loose and accuracy gets erratic. Put blue locktite on the two receiver screws.
- same issue with my Ruger 10/22. Once the screw gets loose accuracy is a mess. I used the purple loc-tight in mine.
My pick for what’s on the table? CCI standard. Every 22 that I’ve owned that shot well like CCI. It might not be the very best but it’s good. I’m almost of the opinion that if it won’t shoot CCI, it won’t shoot.
Luv your videos
Check the optic, check the barrel band the magazine tube band for proper tension. I would also load a round and eject it to check for any extreme deformation of the bullet. Just some thoughts.
If I hadn't already done exactly what you're doing right here with my Henry, I would have said CCi Standard Velocity 😉 But it did horrible in mine also. I have some older stuff I am going to try, though. So far, mine has done best with SK Standard Plus 😮
Yes! I am doing it again as I did not realize the bipod was not allowed 😢 I'm cleaninging tonight and going at it tomorrow, weather permitting 😉 😎
I also sent in another sportsman submission with the Crickett ... did you get it, Elijah? It did pretty decent.
scope is mounted to a receiver cover, and is not directly attached to the barrel, like bolt actions are, i found the Remington nylon was the same with a scope as the lever actions that have the action cover, that's why you shot better with open sites
This rifle is a perfect random number generator.
Perhaps if the ammo is rim thickness and weight sorted it would do better?
I have about 10 boxes of auto match they shoot great in my keltec cp33 in I've had great luck with the aguila super extra standard velocity in my Mossberg 702 plinkster
I enjoy all your videos bro....i have the same rifle...try 38 gr Aguila super extra (small box only)...mines a tack driver with it, an only those....i shoot 50, 100, 125, 165, an 200yds with it...i just doesnt like other ammos...theyre awesome lil rifles...
I found that those work well in my Marlin Model 60. I tested a lot of HP for squirrel hunting and these by far gave me the best groups.
@@cervus-venator I will see if I can find some fellas. I think the next round may be high velocity CCI, Aquila and Maybe even some high velocity SK Target.
re-torque your base and rings?????????
Possibly loose rings ? I have the Frontier Henry 22 lr and it's very accurate at 50 yds(1" or less) and at 100 it's 2-4".
I'm trying to get iron sights for mine since it only came with a scope.
Try a scope with parallax adjustment.
That's what I was thinking. Some scopes are set for fixed parallax out to 100 yds and constant cocking means no consistent cheek weld. Also grip the handguard in the same spot each time if possible.
How much parallelex dose the scope have?
Test the gun on the bag and hold it REAL loose. Do not put any pressure on it.
A Scopemate S18 scope camera will make your video more attractive and fantastic.
Had me laughing at Choo-Choo! That was truly a train wreck, for sure.
Hi from the uk like to see you try this test with a different scope and try one you no is consistent and you are confident with
I may just do that with the same ammo. This scope probably has less than 300 rounds on it and was sitting in the original box. But your point is valid. Though I think from an expectation perspective I am still happy with it after all these years as it is a plinker/hunter which I expect 1 to 2in groups with. It is not meant to be a benchrest firearm.
I would love a lever gun.
I was hoping for CCI, and then Thunderbolt shot the best?😅 Maybe it needed the extra speed!
Sir, I heard the creaking noises from there bench @ 16:23. Are you torture testing the equipment? 🤪
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i believe that scope is done for
That scope has to be moving. Assuming the scope is ok it must be the torque on the mounts.
i have wondered for quite a while how well the Henry 22lrs shoot. Never saw one shooting groups until now. Let us know If you get it sorted. But for now, based on this video, I`ll pass.
Almost looks like your scope is loose?
Dang, Eli.
That was painful to watch at times, lol.
But still a fun video. 🙂
not every rifle is a 1 hole rifle. From the comments this does tell me I should probably set an expectation. Because these levers aren't meant to shoot next to 3 thousand dollar rifles. This rifle though should get a consistent with the right ammo 1 to 2inch groups and many of those weren't far off. If you think it was fun to watch trying shooting one of these levers LOL man I had a blast. As always it is good to see you my friend stopping by.
@@Dayattherange Eli, like a dummy, I sold my Winchester 9422 and Marlin 39A years ago; they shot pretty well but not on par, of course, with my Vudoo and custom Chacon 10/22.
I hope Ruger will revive the 39A again and I believe they will; when they do, I will be the first in line to buy one and hope they offer it in stainless also. 👍🏼
My henry likes NORMA TAC .22 and CCI standard.
I think I have some of that thank you for the tip.
How about a S&S 15/22 will that work as sportsman's?
yes sir and think it would be sweet to do so.
Are all the benches that wobbly?
except for the one concrete bench
Still using 3x9 ?
I think you're scope was moving around, it's not holding center.
Something's broken?
By the way,that is not auto match,it is auto target, that could make a difference
@MikeBarrientos-eo4or not sure if you meant this as a joke or not. But it is branded right on the box federal auto match been shooting it for years
While we all know that 22lr firearms will often show a preference for a particular brand of ammo, I believe there is a problem with the equipment. You are too good a shooter to have repeated flyers that we saw. Another poster raised questions about barrel band and magazine tension, several raised issues about the scope, etc. All are worth trying. Is the muzzle damaged? I have to believe a good .22 rifle would be expected to be more consistent.
Seems like the scope
can you use any lever action or just a Henry h001
Frankly you can use in factory rifle you want as long as there is no mods and you are only using bags.
This is Houston, you got a problem. LOL.
This outing was consistently poor. And I know it was not because of your aiming skills. I shoot all of that ammo out of about 8 different 22s and only Winchester shoots that bad for me.
I tend to agree that you should try a different scope. Tighten all the screws appropriately.
Or , like a couple others said, open sights. I can only do open sights at 25 yards though, and not nearly as well as I used to.
Time for a new scope.
9 power may be too tight at 50 yards
Aguila
Please change the glass.
Golden boo-let. Got to love it.
Change scope
Using hand as front rest didn't seem to help.
I'm looking forward to seeing success for this rifle...and you!
Or else...the future for that rifle doesn't seem to be looking.good..
do you think you may have a bad scope, because its not you, you can shoot. ya that scope is not holding zero.
It's the shoot and see . Try to shoot a dot on the white paper
@6:10. I think the barrel is overheated.
Everything you've shot in that Henry so far has been low budget - and I'm bring kind - minute of BIG tin can ammo. Try some SK anything and I suspect that your groups will tighten considerably. Or, maybe the rifle is just a 5 or 6 moa shooter no matter the cartridge you feed it.
Scope change please
LEUPOLD> FORGET THE REST!!!!!SCOPE MAY HAVE PARALLAX ERROR!
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Remington thunderbolt or cci sv.
Not saying that federal automatch is bad. But I would let my ex-wife use it in anything lol
I'm just curious you ever feel embarrassed about how these guns are shooting? Cause you make me feel like a pro. What was that 60+ rounds down range and one shot where poa and poi were equal?
In my opinion nothing to be embarrassed about, heck it is still FUN. I have been shooting so long that I believe I have got in a groove on WHAT TO EXPECT. Meaning there are always those that believe every rifle should be a one hole group and that is just not going to be true. This being a plinking/hunting rifle I expect 1 to 2inch groups. If needed I am highly confident I could still go out right now from a standing position and still put food on the table if needed with this very rifle.
Just think if you were teaching your child to shoot for the first time and that's the ammo you had to teach with.so sad🤦😱😞😞😞😞
Why is it sad? It would be awesome because kids are not going to want to shoot at paper for groups they would ask to go home because of how boring it is. Now get them out with some balloons filled with water, clay pigeons and good old soda pop cans and they would be having the time of their lives and this rifle is capable of all that. I have noticed over the past few years everyone wants a 1 hole rifle or either has a 1 hole rifle that they paid 200 dollars for. If that is true they should play the lottery because they are one of the luckiest people I have seen. This is a plinking rifle and should be 1 to 2inch at 100yards its very capable.
Friends don't let friends use cheap ammo ;-)
Yeah it was so bad I quit watching. Your only video I’ve ever quit. I can’t stand a gun that shoots that bad.
Talking about the first video you did on the Henry.
@@donniepowell7146 A good lever action should be able to hold 1 1/2in groups my humble opinion. I show EVERYTHING the good and the not so good.
@@Dayattherange I respect that.
Billy should consider a PCP adult air rifle. This is the Avenger in .22 cal shooting crossman 14.3 hp pellets at 100 yards. The rifle cost almost identical to the Henry. Ammo is under $20 for 500 pellets. I stocked up several years ago and 500 pellets were about $10. A hand pump will cost $65 on Amazon. Anyway, 10 shots at 100 yards sub 3” in light wind.
th-cam.com/video/iql-kswoPik/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6NZvHXZTgvz6LQqB
scope looks like it went too crap