The people who are making original sounding music and pouring out their souls will be fine. The people who can play really, really well and like to perform will be OK. The people who crank out music by combining pre-made loops and pre-programmed synth tracks are going to be in big trouble.
If AI could quickly create tracks for instruments like guitar and drums, people who compose by joining many loops together might be more successful than those who play instruments themselves. I used to make a living by composing music, but I got tired of changing my music for money. Last year, I decided to change my career. I want to keep loving music, so I decided to separate business from music.
Agreed. AI won't cause creative people to watch tv instead of being creative. It won't stop musicians from making music. A creative person needs to express themselves, according to human nature, thus they are not going to program an AI to do something while they go sit on the beach feeling unfulfilled then come back in an hour. AI won't stop creativity. It won't stop us from being us. Musicians that fear AI ... well, are bassists out there afraid cause Billy Sheehan is better than them? Are beginning guitarists giving up cause Steve Vai already does it better? No. AI is just another Vai or whoever.
@@sdsddai Maybe they might be more successful. But, when people want to see their fav performers live in concert .... well, how is the person who programmed AI to make some loops going to do that? Sit on stage with their computer for 2 hours?
My "thing" is synth instrumentals, sometimes more than a bit outside the usual box, but people (who actually listen to it) have been amazingly supportive. I'm not really trying to make a living at this, but do very much enjoy spawning my little creations. What's interesting, though, is that now I've become at least a tiny blip on some radar screens, I get besieged with endless offers for the latest "hit making" loops, tracks, samples, chord progressions and so on. When I hear various popular hip-hop, pop, etc. tunes on streaming platforms, can actually recognize which product they bought to create their latest "hit".
I use it as a writing tool, how ever, I just got pushed a full AI generated song, & couldn’t tell if it was an authentic artist or not. That’s how I got here.
AI can make as much music as it wants, but it will never stop me from enjoying the feeling I get while playing a guitar (badly). The drive in our souls to create music will never leave us, no matter how good the algorithm gets.
Indeed. I'm just a hobby musician, but making music is for me communicating with my subconscious - or something - and that's a true pleasure. If you'd rank all existing musicians by how good they are, almost all of them would have quit already because how can they ever be as good at the ones in top. I do think AI will make music better, used by some as a creative tool for making templates.
Have you tried collaborating with AI? How? 1)Create an account on Suno 2)play a guitar intro and upload 3)extend with or without lyrics. You can play a whole song on your guitar now.
@@abram730 I'll have to give it a try. I have no problem with collaborating with a pattern searching algorithm, but, at the same time, I get a kick out of making my own patterns.
@@anthonybrett the fantastic thing is you can take one guitar part and turn it into ten songs with A.I. So it is very interesting to me being that i don’t have a band i can get a lot more done.I am still doing things the old way too so combining the two approaches is new in many ways
@@jefffoxguitar2565 So AI is a great tool? Totally agree. I'm a retired electronics engineer so I love using tools to help me achieve a goal. But it will always be "my" goal. Because the AI doesn't understand what a goal or knowledge actually is. I'll either accept its suggestions, or delete them, depending on my judgment. The AI is a well trained pattern recognition system, and as such it will find patterns that we cant see ourselves, and I'm certainly not one for closing doors, especially in the studio.
I'm quite relieved to see that others also write something so random in the song description field. I always do the same, so it's nice to know I'm not the only one. Writing prompts feels very weird - grew up knowing that making and creating music was my way of dealing with life and emotions-something a text prompt can not really replace.
The ai is just doing what the music industry has been doing since the last 20 to 30 years. Using proven quality and copping it till nobody can hear it anymore 😂
Something is very different. Since this is not about producing big hits, but about filling niches. This is about music for every taste and every niche covering all kinds of topics.
I've listened to a good bit of AI generated music out of curiosity (know thy enemy and all that) and the biggest hurdles AI can't seem to get over yet are (1) Repeating itself too much (2) Not repeating itself enough and (3) pooping its pants
3 problems: 1. The way technology is applied to solve "problems" 2. The lack of knowledge, motivation and leadership from government to build policy that keeps up with technology. 3. Greed
It's never been about solving problems. Just business. First - billions from investors, then (potentially) billions from the users. Everything else doesn't matter (in these people's minds)
would you rather have a song like WAP or the hustle? or would you like a real artist song by a veteran that has issues breathing and singing but he or she still wants to make music? AI is nothing more then a HAMMER. If you really like using a hammer you can either make an iteration of it and create data behind it to make an air hammer? In this case.. the MUSIC industry hates the little guy and tries to keep the small artist and indie artist from getting music out there. NOW EVERYONE is able to use the Air hammer and not just keep people using rocks to hit the nails. ITS NOT A MIDDLE FINGER... ITS A WAY TO ACTUALLY GIVE PEOPLE the help them express themselves.
This has already changed a bit with people streaming playlists without knowing who they are listening to, but I think ultimately people will always be interested in knowing who the artist is, what’s his/her background in music, process, where he creates his music, influences, what matters to him in life. Artists that succeed focus as much on their identity than their art. That’s only one aspect that differs human from AI , and I’m struggling seeing how AI could be equivalent to a human on this matter. I’m not interested in knowing more robots and people typing a sentence to write a track.
I think the real trouble for us doing mixing and mastering is gonna start pretty soon. There will be simple AI tools where you drop in your raw tracks, give it some prompts and reference songs, and in seconds the generative AI, or whatever, will shape those sounds into a great sounding mix. And yes... I think it will be able to replicate the emotions and everything else we put into our mix, that we now think only a human can do.
Yeah most likely, people thinking AI development will stop JUST short of the thing you are describing are incredibly naive i feel like. 100% where this is headed. Question is what's going to happen to the industry at large.
Exactly. People have often made the mistake of thinking they are special. For instance, they once believed that the Earth was the center of the universe and that only humans possessed consciousness and intelligence, which research into animal behavior disproves. Additionally, there is the arrogant belief that a god would grant humans eternal life. These examples highlight how this misplaced sense of specialness leads to misunderstandings about our true place in the universe.
It's all very well the majors suing these AI sites for copyright infringement, but don't kid yourself they’re doing it for altruistic reasons; it's becuase they want to control the market themselves.
Just as consultants homogenised everything outside the creative industries many years ago with their same old business solutions, art is now being downgraded to a trivial commodity. However, as AI only learns what it has been fed, the standstill will set in tomorrow. We are therefore not entering the age of artificial intelligence, but the age of ubiquitous nonsense and forever yesterday.
@@nightfightsday Where do you want to draw the Line? Using: Computers, Audio quantization, AutoTune, Melodyne, Multitrack, Using Turntables for Dancing? Using a Score? That all is fake if you want. You may also use those tools for making "bad" music or for making "good" music, whatever that means, or for making money if you care for music or if you do not care.
@@Rasenschneider If a HUMAN makes the music it doesn't matter how it got there. It's still a human making decisions. Period. I draw the line at flesh. All those things you just mentioned were made by humans. Technically so is AI. It's all about perspective.
''Creative AI tools can be seen as sophisticated plagiarism software, as they do not produce genuinely original content but rather emulate and modify existing works by artist, subtly enough to circumvent copyright laws" - Chat GPT,2024
"Creative AI tools generate original content by synthesizing learned patterns, much like humans do when they create out of inspiration and influence, not by plagiarizing. They use vast data to create new, unique outputs, much like how humans draw on their knowledge and experiences." --also CHATGPT 4o
@@iggswanna1248 Wrong,humans grasp of the idea what currently (feels) dominant (emotion) then brought it trough the art of self perspective,where self pesrpective is expresion of unique individual.
That wrong though. Ai does produce completely new works, the same way humans do. Humans also base their creative work on years of learned data. In fact you can see what happens without that learning process if you give pens to a 2 year old. And ai is fully capable to produce new things. Take alpha go or alpha chess for example. Which invented whole new ideas for the game which humans are now copying
@@youareliedtobythemedia Udio tells you, plainly, that it might produce the same EXACT song multiple times for different people. I don't think that would be the case if Udio was truly producing "completely new works"... from it's own "creative" brain/code. I think a lot of people who have ZERO access to the code are making presumptions about how these "AI" sites work. And those presumptions aren't based in fact or anything concrete.
What it means to be a creative individual is rapidly becoming irrelevant when it concerns one's creative expression within society. And the ability to convince others of one's authentic creativity will become difficult. AI is effectively a tool of plagiarism in virtually every discipline including the arts, literature, and science. The "Music Industry" itself has been crap for decades, so no love lost there.
The premise that AI music is only going to take over commercials and sync Is the logical fallacy I’ve seen in other industries. That emotion and real human input will carry the day. This is a naïve take. If it can take over background music, it can take over foreground music period. It’s that simple.
Yeah, people continuously underestimate the potential of AI. They make assumptions based on its current state and think it’s going to stay like that forever. When in reality, this technology is evolving rapidly and it has the potential to fundamentally change almost every aspect of civilisation.
The more ai-generated content there is, the shitter it's output will be. Those algorithms are not that special. AI isn't intelligent, it just regurgitates what it's given
One place I could see this being used is in the lower budget TV movie industry. Creating a schmaltzy song or two in a Hallmark movie would be much cheaper than buying one and paying royalties.
I don't think that the people defending AI music really get it. Spotify for example doesn't pay individually - it pays from the pool of all music (for tracks that hit more than 1000 streams) Whereas before maybe 100,000 tracks were released each day now with AI music it's already at over a million tracks a day and counting - when this gets more popular it could be 10s of millions of tracks per day. When it was already extremely difficult to be discovered regardless of how good the music was, now musicians have to deal with an absolute barrage of quickly made no effort required artificially made music, that most people cannot tell the difference between something actually made which took days, even weeks to produce. With Suno you can release almost 100 tracks per day onto DSP's, with just one account, with Udio over twice that amount. If you say you don't care that's fine, but to say it won't affect artists that are good enough is just plain wrong. The ones it won't affect are the Taylor Swifts of this world.
Artists only get about 6% on Spotify anyways... That is where the issue is. Artists make the money doing live shows and from their community. If you were depending on Spotify money than you had a problem before AI music.
@@abram730 A distributor - my distributor takes 15% but there are plenty of distributors that will allow you to keep 100% of all earnings if you pay them a monthly or annual fee. (Distrokid is around 25 euros for a year)
A.I. was already used for pop and top hits already for a long time... they all sound the same, pop artist are all fake, the octane-core "metal" all sound the same... country is a dime a dozen.. and NOW its available to the public and everyone can call themselves a musician as well. My life propose is gone.. everything, my touring days, my recording studio days, my hopes that making music will one day make me feel my worth... GONE. This effects so many careers and people! This changes everything
Putting aside my own existential dread around this tech, I can see it being commonly used as a way of thickening a real vocal take by mixing an original vocal recording with an AI generated version. Thus retaining some humanity but short cutting doubling vocals and editing them to fit. In short, Instant tuneful stacking. Massive time saver without fully surrendering to the robots. That’s how I see it playing out initially - producers subtly blended it with the source human recordings, at least until the tech matures a bit more. It’s scary but you’re right - people are going to get left behind if this isn’t embraced on at least some level
An oddity is that these AI music sites are learning off of a lot of songs where the singer has been autotuned. Sometimes you can hear it in the AI vocal.
After trying Suno for a bit I can honestly say many of the results don't actually sound worse, more artificial, than what mainstream producers spit out nowadays. It's actually hard for me, in almost every genre, to distinguish between many of the artists... That being said, AI could, in a way, maybe it's a blessing because the artists that make "more of the same" will not have a job anymore and the artists that actually make something that no one else can do will be the ones who thrive.
Nope, it's on a thin line from copyright issues. I made a jingle for the studio and first thing my best friend and I recognized the voice of the lead singer from OMD but pitched a bit higher, Andy McCluskey. So there are going to discussions in the future. What I also noticed, that the mastering sounds "ruk" and full of phase issues. What I was impressed from was the individual vocals processed by AI. So individual instruments processing is in danger for us. But what about 10 years? It will probably that good, that we become "obsolete"? Younger people hear immediately that it is AI. Something we adults can't hear. There is a video from Rick Beato about the subject, and he doesn't hear its AI, but his son, also expert in music notes, directly said, this is AI.
AI is a tool, just as any other tools for songwriters and producers. If you learn to use the tool you can benefit from that. If you do not learn to use the tool you might be caught up with time. Just the same with analog recording (or photography) vs digital. It is good if you are able to do both of them.
DAWs are about to get completely revolutionized once all this is standard and built in. Imagine working on a song and you tell AI to "Add a piano track in the style of Elton John" or "harmonies in the style of Queen". 2 seconds and bam, you have your track. Shit is about to get NUTS. Imagine jamming with AI. Start playing guitar and a track forms around you in real time. 😮
That first example reminded me of the lyrical style of an old new jack swing style funk rap that was once made as an advertisement in the early 90’s for HP. They even made a video clip with a Bobby Brown look-a-like dancing and rapping about the HP series 700 Unix workstations. It’s pretty a hilarious song, back then such a thing had to be created and conceived by humans spending a good amount of time on it to create the concept. These modern AI tools are a wet dream for ad agencies that need to whip together a song for an ad in an afternoon. It’s too easy. The third example reminded me a lot about the sort of thing you get from arranger keyboards that wedding entertainers use with auto accompaniment styles. But this AI version sounded like a really cheap one, some arranger keyboards sound quite decent as a lot of work is done by skilled musicians that create those auto accompaniment styles (they have a lot different genre’s in them). AI tools result in boring music, it’s a lot more fun to dissect a song of a favourite artist and try to recreate some elements from it and transform into something completely different and spends weeks on it and learn new things from it.
I started in the business in 1989, it was an amazing time. Thriving studios, loads of music people loved (and bought), a revolution in sound, the chance of major deals and publishing for the best (I got mine), and a thriving music retail environment. I got my start as I was a whizz with Atari Cubase and synths and samplers. Paid sessions all the time - this all belongs to the past now. I now mix and master for people and keep going that way, though I also have a computer business for 'real' money. Given I have decades of successful experience behind me I should be doing really well, but it's just not there anymore. To me the decline was noticeable by about 2001 when the major studios in London began to shut, sometimes I walk past the legendary Sarm West studios but of course it's all flats now. AI will eventually kill everything about recorded music - you no longer know what you're getting or how it was made. May be it's not quite there yet but 10 years, 20 years? Music was once rare and special, now it's like wallpaper being churned out by the mile every minute by some big machine. All I can say is that people really love music and will continue to support 'artists' when they can. You see this with the huge ticket prices for large gigs, where people spend hundreds to stand in a field and buy cans of drink for £10. Therefore the future is live, and I'm involved with a company that does 64 channel sound for gigs and DJs - a 3d sound experience that is like no other - there is a long way to go to update the live experience to meet the expectations of the 21st century. All the bedroom laptop musicians will always make music with a lonely quality, so much of the fun of music is people being together doing something together. Incidentally film is suffering from the same problem and is going wrong in a similar way.
The awnser is yes and no. Yes because the pop music the last 20 years has been fabricated in the most un creative way where every sound is run through beat detective and autotune. So the listener has been trained to 'like' or expect it sounding like it is made by zero's and ones. It all sounds like plastic already. And no because the producers will (and prob have been) using it already. Music well go back to a performing art and the industry will just push out generated crap for people who don't care.
Well put - and I think we're already there. A lot of people are making their money via live performance because practically no one buys music any more.
Real art (any form) is mainly about emotions. That's what makes us human and that is exactly why I am not worried about AI made music - it might be a good tool but it will never make actual art. Don't worry guys and keep creating art in whatever way you see fit🙂
@@kalidesu Nope. How is AI a tool when you can just write a prompt in and get a better produced track than you can do yourself, and also save time and effort?
AI is not destroying the music business - It's boosting it by cutting the artists. Total revenue through zero payrolls. Now THAT'S A BUSINESS! Unfortunately it's too late to wake up!
AI will take low-level / entry-level work in many industries. It's an interesting dichotomy because as tools make it easier to get into a creative field, they also make it harder to get into that field professionally by taking away the entry level work.
There are song structure and arrangement issues all over the place with these songs, samey density, samey vocal perfomance, the virtual singers lacking proper vocal couch training, etc... You can't just feed the machine learning with songs. It has to learn the basics of songwriting and music, mixing, mastering in the first place... I noticed that machine learning image generation is a lot more advanced, the best models have a level of "personality" or uniqueness that can distinguish them from human made art as well or other machine learning methods. Like a bias for the surreal and the flaws of AI enhance that even more. Just a single AI image would take A LOT of time and resources for humans for the same result.
"a killer", yes - a killer of human ingenuity (which arises through necessity). now Laziness "Rules"....or at least, the Old Money is successful at instilling complacency in the masses.
AI IS dithering. At least the diffusion models add more and more noise to the material to a point where nothing as noise is left from the original material. As far as I understand. So how could anyone have copyrights on noise?
Suno is getting sued right now for training their models on copyrighted material. The evidence is overwhelming, the only question is if US law is prepared or not.
@@jonc8561 Doubt. And I hope not. Using isn't copying. You could use it, to learn from it. There's no law making that illegal. It's public, not under an NDA.
@@NoidoDevI see a lot of people make this point, but I don't think you're considering that if "AI" is allowed to learn and emulate like a human would or can, you're essentially giving it the same copyright protections as a human. If the AI has copyright protections, it too will have copyright obligations. Suno will then have an obligation to emulate, but not copy too closely and thus infringe on existing IP. This will be in issue in the future. Short ish version - 8 year old kid prompts suno and suno makes song too close to an actual song (pick any old legacy artist), kid releases song on streaming. Who infringed? Suno or the kid who typed the prompt? The audio, the melody, the chords, and the rhythms weren't made by the kid, but generated by Suno. If Suno is claiming they have copyright protections in the same way a human does, they also must share the obligations as they pertain to infringement.
I tried to do some traditional songs with AI in reggae style. It's the free version. Whoever heard it was impressed. If you had a pro version to edit and not to work on luck. It would be unattainable for 99% of musicians today. It is interesting that some songs can be done by a phenomenal 10 versions. While some text simply cannot be used in any style. For me as a musician, all this killed the meaning of composing. What we are left with is an acoustic instrument and a light song with company under a tree. This happened to agriculture a long time ago. The peasant manages to get a couple of large strawberries. Then comes the GMO producer with tons of large strawberries of identical color and size. And if they don't have taste, people follow their eyes. We live in the late afternoon. It's almost night... End is near
The music "Industry" died a long time ago. If you follow Rick Beato, he pretty much tells you how. AI is the Frankenstein monster animating the dead body of music.
I don't think AI will have any meaningful effect or impact at all to be honest. The most important characteristics like emotional depth, creativity, and unique human experience that only we can endure and bring to the music we create are too essential for music that really makes an impact. If anything, I think the introduction of AI into the music production space will be extremely beneficial in helping artists overcome writer/creativity block, which will lead to a greater and more consistent amount of material that the rest of us can enjoy. Just my two cents :p
Suno and Udio both are being sued in a pretty major lawsuit. They trained their models on copyrighted music. Also, as far as the "fans want to see live music" aspect. No, they dont. Sure, some do, but the majority, especially younger generations, just want some place to go to meet hang out with their friends that happens to have music. They could care less who is playing, as long as the music is the vibe they are after. If somebody creates a brand, lets call it Mr AI, and uses AI to create the music, market the music, build their social media etc, It doesnt matter if there is a real person behind it or not. Coachella would much rather pay Mr Ai, who has 20 million followers on tik tok, and just "played" their second boiler room set, a measly $10,000.00, instead of having to pay old and boring Deadmau5 $150,000.00. Mr Ai's live sets are literally just a playlist, with cool visuals. its a party, its not about the performer, its about the vibe. Sure there will always be a niche for human talent, somebody using ableton to launch tempo locked clips (created by AI) while playing an electronic drum pad every third song will surely thrive.
Art is and has always been all about people connecting with each other on an emotional level, it's self-expressing. Those AI pros that you mentioned lack the whole idea of it. AI doesn't have thoughts, it lacks authenticity because it doesn't come from itself personally, it comes from pre-made templates of other people.
Your passion for music and being moved by all aspects of it is what makes you unique. Can’t say the same the masses. The generation that used to be as passionate about artist/ lyrics/ music, died in the album era. The “Almost Famous” era. But lingered till the second half of the 80s. When sad girls used to fall asleep clutching their albums.
my long term theory, as a musician and recording engineer, is that recording led us to this point and that is where the problem started. Recording music takes away the first and most honest presentation. Some famous composers agree with my premise. Recording is bad for music, though history and preservation poses a issue... of should we or not. Arguments for both sides. An once it was an industry" it was over anyway.
The human connection was already lost somewhat with recorded music. And technology, lowering costs, Autotune, snapping to the grid, etc. also makes music less of a direct human connection... with AI being the final disconnect. Imo, most people won't care if it's AI or not. But for those that do, live music is what's left.
Even as an artist there's some value in these tools, imho. I take advantage of AI in order to get inspiration on creating new music. If you think of it as a support instead of a replacement it can level up your production. It might not be a coincidence that the most common generated contents on Suno/Udio are unlikely genre mashups, like ancient china metal or pirate themed techno. Which is laughable, but also shows the possibilities of crafting new sounds.
@@amishdoink scared isn't the right word here ... I just like to mock those who say : " I MADE a song or a piece of music " when they have just entered a few lines of text ... something that the average idiot is able to do easily , ,they fool themselves into believing that technology allow them to finally " express themselves " lol . If one day I end up doing something like that I would accept others calling me pathetic or untalented .
@@Dystopian84 you might not be untalented, but surely you are starting to be too old for this world (which is pretty alarming considering that I'm born in 1984 as well). Where the hell did I ever say that you should MAKE a song with Suno, in fact I did say the exact opposite, to think of it like a support and not a replacement, and yet you are putting my comment on the same league of non-musician prompters.
@@DarioToledo That " you are a boomer "generic insult is very weak when it comes to these things . I have seen a lot of idiots saying the exact same thing , almost word for word what you just said when I was mocking those who thought that NFTs and the metaverse were the " here to stay " inevitable future lol I am not alarmed that someone born in 1984 lacks self awareness , I have seen it before . Even if you waste time using UDIO as a " tool " by the time you are done millions of imbeciles will just use AI to easily generate and not as a tool , so it won't make any difference and you will be lost in the noise .
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So far AI can apply what it has learned form us. We still have the creative process to start from nothing. As long we have drive to create and solve problems will be ahead of AI.
Yes, but keep in mind that AI by definition takes human creations as its input. So if things like drama, tension, release, dynamics, emotion, etc. are present in human compositions, those will be translated with increasing accuracy into AI output.
The music Industry....those recordcompanies that enslave talented musicians because they have a music promotion network for airplay which is hard to get into as an outsider? Using AI to write lyrics will get you a lot of AI overused words like, echoes, shadows, neon, light, souls. I think UDIO is the best one. AI generated audio is a great thing for the future if you think about it in a creative way.
When music users realize that AI music is good enough, they will throw the baby (those geniuses) out with the bathwater. Human made music will become more of a hobby. something like horse raiding. And, honestly, to me custom made Udio outputs for my weird prompts (that usually require big orchestra among other components) are already more interesting than what I am forced to consume from human artists.
AI is like the fourteen year old TH-cam guitarist who has otherworldly technique but no life experience to say anything noteworthy. Until AI can actually have sex and babies, fall in Love, get a broken heart, feel like an outcast, lose everything, get sick, watch loved ones die, know that your life is going to end, find redemption, burn with desire to be heard, AND receive divine inspiration-truly good music will always be a human creation because that is who it's for. AI is a tool which will be well used and heavily abused by people with no taste.
The leading edge AI models generate music much similarly to how text is generated in ChatGPT for example: each audio sample (or block of audio, don't know the exact internals) is generated with the context of the prompt and what has already been generated before. There's no "DAW" or any synths and effects in the process; it simply distills its training data and outputs it one chunk of audio at a time from pure noise. That's how it can generate many different instruments and voices.
"sample (or block of audio, don't know the exact internals)" Token tends to be the word used for the blocks. They do learn an advanced understanding of the music, however that is emergent and can be hit or miss. The reason they use so much data is to maximize the advanced understandings or intelligence.
AI is only a threat for non-musicians who are in there just for money reasons. They should find another job . Good. Meanwhile, AI is a blessing for creative artists. Super !
@@NikosKatsikanis AI can be used to make amazing songs if you take the time to write it out, and it can make songs nobody would make for a few pennies. There are plenty of writers out there that can now make music. AI can also let musicians paint an entire song with one instrument. Now as far as the non-musicians buying samples and turning out as many tracks as they can, the AI can do that better and in a vast number.
as someone who has been producing for 5 years now , I'm excited about the creative applications of generative ai for artists. if you have knowledge of your artistic field before you jump in, your creative ability and interaction skills are going to far surpass that of someone with no experience in their chosen artistic field when trying to get something desired from AI . its more applicable as a learning tool as well as an inspirational tool. if the AI music is good and inspiring im happy for it. personally being able to have a lead vocalist and an entire band to create inspiring music that i would never have been able to do without years more dedication to learning a different genres ins and outs + having to find a vocalist and spending lots of money. now we can have music we have imagined at our fingertips and personally that inspires me to hopefully one day see real musicians playing the music ai helped to lay the foundation for( thanks to the amazing human artists creativity). ALSO shifting to Movies, there is such a flood of utter trash movies these days, im looking forward to the day when a person can create an amazing story from their mind and produce it to share.
I’ve been experimenting with AI music for a few months now, and for me, it’s a great tool. I often have a lot of ideas popping into my head, but I’m not particularly talented when it comes to singing or playing an instrument. Plus, I don’t exactly have a band waiting in my basement to play all my ideas for me. Don’t get me wrong-I believe AI music can help a lot of people bring their ideas to life. Even musicians can find inspiration in it. It’s just another tool. And honestly, the music industry has already been using algorithms for years to predict which melodies might be (commercially) successful. I’ll still go to concerts to see my favorite bands, and I don’t think AI will kill off artists. Instead, it might put pressure on those who are just farming listeners for money. Even with “good” AI-generated songs, there’s still a lot of work and creativity involved. If you’re curious about my work, feel free to check out my channel! I’d love to hear your thoughts and feedback.
As a film composer I'm actually excited. I'm seeing this more as an opportunity to open your creativity for an even greater array of inspiration and ideas etc. Truly exciting times ahead... especially if you're atually creative ;)
The 3 pillars of society and economy are human labor, human intellect, and morals/values. The first two are about to be devalued to zero. People can kid themselves all day long but this is a big problem and every time someone says their job is safe, they are proven wrong. It's sad actually. I've witness tears over this many times. It won't be real for you until it effects you personally.
Honestly, when I listen to the audio quality of these AI-generated music creations, I think we're far from being finished... Frankly, it sounds like a bad 128 kbps MP3 and thus isn't usable in a professional environment! As for the lyrics... PFFF, they're completely meaningless... I believe listeners are looking for meaning in lyrics, if there are any in a track; it's better to have a good instrumental than a song with crappy lyrics! Well okay, we all know one or more totally shitty tracks that have become hits! (whether musically, artistically, or in terms of lyrics... but well... it's not a rule!) Where we should start worrying is when Musical AIs create a complete track by offering you stems of each instrument/track in 24/96, where you only have to do the mix and mastering... But we're not there yet! Far from it! And you know, there's no guarantee that Suno will still be around in a year, especially with a huge lawsuit underway from the three largest American record labels for plagiarism, as this AI (and others!) have been trained on millions of already released tracks without the consent of the original authors! It's clearly copyright infringement! And in my humble opinion, this won't last very long... There's so much money at stake! Music today is an industry, let's not forget that... and it's not very inclined to stand by and even less to be surpassed... In my opinion, we still have some good years ahead of us... But of course, as always, we must be vigilant and make these tools not competitors but allies... it's also our job as sound engineers to keep up with technological advancements in our field... Keep pushing, man!
Imagine one of the streaming giants includes such an engine, lets you share "your" creations and fun fact, no human involvement, no revenue, so the streaming services can keep the already ridiculous low pps. Do we really wanna give away the highest way of human communication, the only thing that really tells humans and animals apart?
Quite ironically, AI has been both my biggest motivator, and demotivator. I absolutely love working with AI powered vocal synths (AI makes the process much more like editing a performance, rather than programming everything). But AI has also been used for many nefarious purposes in all art forms. I'm glad to see passionate musicians and producers will carry on regardless of the strange times!
The Recording Industry had already been destroyed by the early 2000s, kiddo. There is no such thing as a "music industry" outside of publishing. Live performances are essentially _theatre,_ in all of it's variety, and paid actor's scale (not authors) to do covers, and offered nothing for original pieces. Yes, NOTHING(!) No industry (beyond academia itself) exists to apprentice and develop theatrical talent as in other industries; exposure is largely a result of sheer dog-eat-dog payola and underhandedness.
wanting to see things in a slightly optimistic way we could hope that AI will do to music what photography did to the visual arts, giving birth to Modernism, freeing the unconscious and experimentation in a sector that was previously mainly figurative and didactic.
There will be a new form of PRO that will deal with paying out training royalties. You will opt in or out during the distribution stage. Most people will opt in because it won't feel like a big problem. The big artists will opt out and will make loads more money licensing training data to high end tier ai generative platforms. Meanwhile a resurgence of "good old fashioned" music will take place with an emphasis on organic human performance. After a while AI models will be trained on Organic human made music styles and a new Punk AI music style will surface where creative artists take malformed ai interpretations of organic music and distort, mangle and manipulate it into a new credible genre (which will later be modelled) ;)
AI companies have stolen from many artists when training their systems. I am also careful when using the systems, as I don’t want to feed my ideas to them as there is absolutely no copyright protection for your input. Only the best producers and artists will survive and be “better” than AI. But all new producers and artists need time to grow and become good. With less opportunities and money in the music industry, there will be less and less new blood entering into the industry, hence fewer great artists/ musicians / producers in the future.
Music producers did it to themselves by generating electronically processed vocals that sound like a robot FFT speech synthesizer. Now the AI can beat you at your own game. Pop music is generated by the dozen without any deep lyrics or "soul" and a few loops repeated. The sad AI song started like the Unforgiven, lol.
the timbre of AI music on suno is my biggest pet peeve, especially with vocals- but I enjoy generating instrumentals. I am maybe a bit different but I find a lot of joy in hearing the machine create something that you can actually listen too, and it's interesting to see it get creative about things like builds or drops, I also like throwing my own productions at it and extending them to sort of quickly explore different ideas /with my ears/. but the timbre still sucks lol. I can see so many really useful ways to use the tools beyond just generating whole songs (which is still cool because I think that's a new and interesting medium for people to communicate in it self, like meme music) but I feel like a lot of these companies are completely missing a huge granular market. Like let me reimagine drum loops in my daw, let me generate synth patches by describing the sound, give me an infinite sample library by generating kicks/snares/hats etc based on descriptions and vibes
Every TH-cam creator is using "AI" to produce music, sound design, images, and video now. I don't see how this doesn't harm thousands of music and sound designers that are on the small end of the industry. Actually it's getting good enough to displace some higher end studios. Not a very good thing IMO.
Ok. Here's my problem with this: I hate the de-personalization of music that this inherently brings to the table. Yes. Even before AI. It was easier then ever for everyone to write a note. You didn't need the schools. You didn't need the years of practise on an instrument. (...though both still exteremely valuable.) You could just click the note with your mouse. Yes. But it was YOUR note. YOU were the judge. And while that judgement was being made in your head, YOU were considering all the things YOU liked in YOUR past. With AI, that "YOU" part is gone. Yes. It writes down a note as well. Yes, it's a combination of older material. But the judgement, the selection, is based on (a dataset-sourced) probability and a little bit of noise. Yes, you can re-generate that prompt few times, but it's still ends up being a random combination of other's stuff. That intention is very limited, if it exists at all. If we normalize in listener's head that this kind of music is equal to the one made thanks to human descision making, then we say "humanity is random, there's no purpose to it". ...and to me that's a reall dangerous message to youngsters.
Musicians went from being the content creator to the content consumer. That’s the most recent issue. AI is a form of techno-feudalism with monthly rental fees. Companies want musicians dependent on their tools, so they can charge for the service. This means the money flows away from the creators and into the pockets of finance executives. Even the AI programmers will eventually be replaced as the AI starts to train the AI… but the executives that own it will always profit.
@@kalidesuthat’s not under threat yet. I’m talking more about the huge industry of working musicians making catalog music. I think you are considering this as a musician that doesn’t rely on making music for a living. I’m thinking more as an educator that wants to understand the future of creativity and the affordances of tools (what outcomes can they produce and what are the processes that lead to these outcomes). I am also interested in larger things like power structures the perforate society. As a working engineer with over 25 years experience making a living, this presents a huge shift that will affect how we write music. But to suggest real instruments are infallible is like saying amps will never be replaced by digital…
The Kendrick/Drake beef highlighted the two extremes. Drake's weird use of Snoop and Tupac versus Metro's use of BBL Drizzy. Sampling didn't destroy the industry like they said it would. DAWs didn't destroy the industry. The internet didn't do it. Creative will always find a way.
Don't underestimate this because in the next 5 years this tech will advance 100X plus to be more accurate, interesting, human and much closer to being indistinguishable !
AI isn’t just for music but for everything. I love AI in everything. It is the évolution of everything. no one is forced to buy music created by AI or by an artist. it’s up to people to choose what they like or want to listen to AI or artist.
I don't understand how you can say it makes it from nothing, ignoring all the people it's been trained on, stolen and devalued. I had more respect for you before you said that.
I lost interest in the industry years ago even before I left the music biz. Sadly the same people who control it mostly also control Big Tech(check those Surnames ppl lol) These ppl will have you end up 'half Cyborg in 20 years) Enough said!
The majority of people will not care if AI makes their music because most people have terrible taste in music. Most modern pop music is so cookie cutter these days it might as well be AI anyway. Also as people get accustom to AI created media, it will just sound "right" to them. Like the over use of Auto Tune. It's just how people think music is supposed to sound.
Apart from the fact that the title of this video is nothing but a click-bite, and without even watching the video (it would be a complete waste of time) I can tell you that: - A.I. is not destroying the music industry, and it will not destroy it either Music industry is one thing, music is the other, and none will be affected by A.I. in any catastrophic way. Music industry will use A.I. to its own advantage, there will be A.I. generated music, but good man-made music will never be threatened by A.I. generated music
Ok what is it: User input midi to Trans Code magic bla bla (Super Maths) to Electrical Pulse code that interacts with Magnets to create Pressure waves that may or may not have Copyright paper work.. As Opposed To A computer doing it Automatically based on the data of Arranged Pixels.
It's easy to accept an A.I. interpretation of music/art etc. I don't have to think or have any level of discrimination, opinion, sensitivity, choice, placement, blah blah. Maybe as a starting point to build from...but I'd rather not use it at all.
A machine making a picture was only impressive when it was new tech. AI will make human skill worth 10x more. For instance, a computer making 1000 copies of the mona lisa is not special. Worth a few cents a piece. While a person making a nearly identical replica with a brush using hands is 1000x harder. We already know hand-made is worth more. Stop with this nonsense. We already know AI can play starcraft and drums like a machine and tune vocals.
AI programs pretending to type letter by letter on your screen is pure cringe and is a dead give-away that it's trying to fool you into thinking it's intelligent while being a huge text made by programmers with their ideologies and learning from the collective consciousness of humans(evil)
As a non-professional music producer with several label releases under my belt, I can almost completely ignore the threats posed by AI music generators. So far I haven't been able to turn music production into a job and I probably never will. I'm making music just for fun and passion. But I feel very sorry for all those professional musicians and producers out there who will see their real jobs at risk, because labels, and the music industry in general, will be increasingly attracted to cheap and tireless "AI producers".
AI zal een zegen blijken voor de muziekindustrie. Het zal het kaf van het koren scheiden. Iedereen kan straks muziek maken die gebaseerd is op het grote corpus muziek dat er nu is. Voor de échte componisten en muzikanten wordt de uitdaging om mooiere en originelere muziek te maken dan AI genereert. Dat wordt de uitdaging en dat is alleen maar goed, want het dwingt om echt creatief aan de slag te gaan...
My Answer: NO. If you really want to make your very special own music, AI will not be able to take all the decisions from you. It can't read your mind about the hundreds of details you want to have in your composition and production.
The labels sued ... BUT .... they also are investing on creating their own AI tools trained by their catalogs, that's why they are mad. At the end we are trapped in the middle.. labels (streaming services) want to own EVERYTHING, and we musicians and producers are not in their future plans.
The music industry destroyed itself decades ago. 😒
Most people do not care about music.
Most CEO’s are making more than ever tho…
@@Rasenschneiderwhaat? Thats not true..
@@ComplexConfiguration Sure!!! This is the whole truth!!!!
The greed destroyed it years ago, now we are left with pennies from Spotify. I do enjoy making music with AI.
The people who are making original sounding music and pouring out their souls will be fine. The people who can play really, really well and like to perform will be OK. The people who crank out music by combining pre-made loops and pre-programmed synth tracks are going to be in big trouble.
right! those people were going to be doomed anyway because they didn't sound good enough already
If AI could quickly create tracks for instruments like guitar and drums, people who compose by joining many loops together might be more successful than those who play instruments themselves. I used to make a living by composing music, but I got tired of changing my music for money. Last year, I decided to change my career. I want to keep loving music, so I decided to separate business from music.
Agreed. AI won't cause creative people to watch tv instead of being creative. It won't stop musicians from making music. A creative person needs to express themselves, according to human nature, thus they are not going to program an AI to do something while they go sit on the beach feeling unfulfilled then come back in an hour. AI won't stop creativity. It won't stop us from being us. Musicians that fear AI ... well, are bassists out there afraid cause Billy Sheehan is better than them? Are beginning guitarists giving up cause Steve Vai already does it better? No. AI is just another Vai or whoever.
@@sdsddai Maybe they might be more successful. But, when people want to see their fav performers live in concert .... well, how is the person who programmed AI to make some loops going to do that? Sit on stage with their computer for 2 hours?
My "thing" is synth instrumentals, sometimes more than a bit outside the usual box, but people (who actually listen to it) have been amazingly supportive. I'm not really trying to make a living at this, but do very much enjoy spawning my little creations. What's interesting, though, is that now I've become at least a tiny blip on some radar screens, I get besieged with endless offers for the latest "hit making" loops, tracks, samples, chord progressions and so on. When I hear various popular hip-hop, pop, etc. tunes on streaming platforms, can actually recognize which product they bought to create their latest "hit".
I use it as a writing tool, how ever, I just got pushed a full AI generated song, & couldn’t tell if it was an authentic artist or not. That’s how I got here.
AI can make as much music as it wants, but it will never stop me from enjoying the feeling I get while playing a guitar (badly). The drive in our souls to create music will never leave us, no matter how good the algorithm gets.
Indeed.
I'm just a hobby musician, but making music is for me communicating with my subconscious - or something - and that's a true pleasure.
If you'd rank all existing musicians by how good they are, almost all of them would have quit already because how can they ever be as good at the ones in top.
I do think AI will make music better, used by some as a creative tool for making templates.
Have you tried collaborating with AI?
How?
1)Create an account on Suno
2)play a guitar intro and upload
3)extend with or without lyrics.
You can play a whole song on your guitar now.
@@abram730 I'll have to give it a try. I have no problem with collaborating with a pattern searching algorithm, but, at the same time, I get a kick out of making my own patterns.
@@anthonybrett the fantastic thing is you can take one guitar part and turn it into ten songs with A.I. So it is very interesting to me being that i don’t have a band i can get a lot more done.I am still doing things the old way too so combining the two approaches is new in many ways
@@jefffoxguitar2565 So AI is a great tool? Totally agree. I'm a retired electronics engineer so I love using tools to help me achieve a goal. But it will always be "my" goal. Because the AI doesn't understand what a goal or knowledge actually is. I'll either accept its suggestions, or delete them, depending on my judgment. The AI is a well trained pattern recognition system, and as such it will find patterns that we cant see ourselves, and I'm certainly not one for closing doors, especially in the studio.
I'm quite relieved to see that others also write something so random in the song description field. I always do the same, so it's nice to know I'm not the only one. Writing prompts feels very weird - grew up knowing that making and creating music was my way of dealing with life and emotions-something a text prompt can not really replace.
The ai is just doing what the music industry has been doing since the last 20 to 30 years. Using proven quality and copping it till nobody can hear it anymore 😂
Something is very different. Since this is not about producing big hits, but about filling niches. This is about music for every taste and every niche covering all kinds of topics.
That's what I'm saying...
I've listened to a good bit of AI generated music out of curiosity (know thy enemy and all that) and the biggest hurdles AI can't seem to get over yet are (1) Repeating itself too much (2) Not repeating itself enough and (3) pooping its pants
I believe you are confused, it sounds like you are talking about Biden
Lol wtf
There's also a weird lossy sound to it, like early 128k mp3s.
@@moe47988 That's also definitely true, always sounds like it was ripped from a compressed video
Udio is pretty incredible
3 problems:
1. The way technology is applied to solve "problems"
2. The lack of knowledge, motivation and leadership from government to build policy that keeps up with technology.
3. Greed
It's never been about solving problems. Just business. First - billions from investors, then (potentially) billions from the users. Everything else doesn't matter (in these people's minds)
would you rather have a song like WAP or the hustle? or would you like a real artist song by a veteran that has issues breathing and singing but he or she still wants to make music? AI is nothing more then a HAMMER. If you really like using a hammer you can either make an iteration of it and create data behind it to make an air hammer? In this case.. the MUSIC industry hates the little guy and tries to keep the small artist and indie artist from getting music out there. NOW EVERYONE is able to use the Air hammer and not just keep people using rocks to hit the nails. ITS NOT A MIDDLE FINGER... ITS A WAY TO ACTUALLY GIVE PEOPLE the help them express themselves.
Understand nature, nature is greedy and deadly, AI is a product of nature and therefore beautiful.
Napster 2.0
This has already changed a bit with people streaming playlists without knowing who they are listening to, but I think ultimately people will always be interested in knowing who the artist is, what’s his/her background in music, process, where he creates his music, influences, what matters to him in life.
Artists that succeed focus as much on their identity than their art.
That’s only one aspect that differs human from AI , and I’m struggling seeing how AI could be equivalent to a human on this matter. I’m not interested in knowing more robots and people typing a sentence to write a track.
The best job in the music industry is being a busker, best paid too
I think the real trouble for us doing mixing and mastering is gonna start pretty soon. There will be simple AI tools where you drop in your raw tracks, give it some prompts and reference songs, and in seconds the generative AI, or whatever, will shape those sounds into a great sounding mix. And yes... I think it will be able to replicate the emotions and everything else we put into our mix, that we now think only a human can do.
Yeah most likely, people thinking AI development will stop JUST short of the thing you are describing are incredibly naive i feel like. 100% where this is headed. Question is what's going to happen to the industry at large.
Exactly. People have often made the mistake of thinking they are special. For instance, they once believed that the Earth was the center of the universe and that only humans possessed consciousness and intelligence, which research into animal behavior disproves. Additionally, there is the arrogant belief that a god would grant humans eternal life. These examples highlight how this misplaced sense of specialness leads to misunderstandings about our true place in the universe.
Those options have been out for a while already. Audiolens + Neutron ..There are many more released as VST plugins.
@@maw0380 That is just your opinion ... :)
It's all very well the majors suing these AI sites for copyright infringement, but don't kid yourself they’re doing it for altruistic reasons; it's becuase they want to control the market themselves.
Just as consultants homogenised everything outside the creative industries many years ago with their same old business solutions, art is now being downgraded to a trivial commodity. However, as AI only learns what it has been fed, the standstill will set in tomorrow. We are therefore not entering the age of artificial intelligence, but the age of ubiquitous nonsense and forever yesterday.
We had Bands in the 70s who were no musicians but dancers and the music was produced in the studio by other people.
Yeah, but those people weren't AI. Real people made that music. Not a good comparison in my book.
We had Mili Vanilla in the 90’s. Girl you know it’s true 😂
@@nightfightsday Where do you want to draw the Line? Using: Computers, Audio quantization, AutoTune, Melodyne, Multitrack, Using Turntables for Dancing? Using a Score? That all is fake if you want. You may also use those tools for making "bad" music or for making "good" music, whatever that means, or for making money if you care for music or if you do not care.
@@Rasenschneider If a HUMAN makes the music it doesn't matter how it got there. It's still a human making decisions. Period. I draw the line at flesh. All those things you just mentioned were made by humans. Technically so is AI. It's all about perspective.
yeah but the music was PRODUCED by other humans.
''Creative AI tools can be seen as sophisticated plagiarism software, as they do not produce genuinely original content but rather emulate and modify existing works by artist, subtly enough to circumvent copyright laws" - Chat GPT,2024
"Creative AI tools generate original content by synthesizing learned patterns, much like humans do when they create out of inspiration and influence, not by plagiarizing. They use vast data to create new, unique outputs, much like how humans draw on their knowledge and experiences." --also CHATGPT 4o
@@iggswanna1248 Wrong,humans grasp of the idea what currently (feels) dominant (emotion) then brought it trough the art of self perspective,where self pesrpective is expresion of unique individual.
That wrong though. Ai does produce completely new works, the same way humans do. Humans also base their creative work on years of learned data. In fact you can see what happens without that learning process if you give pens to a 2 year old.
And ai is fully capable to produce new things. Take alpha go or alpha chess for example. Which invented whole new ideas for the game which humans are now copying
@@youareliedtobythemedia its not the same as an algorithm that steals for corporate profit.
@@youareliedtobythemedia Udio tells you, plainly, that it might produce the same EXACT song multiple times for different people. I don't think that would be the case if Udio was truly producing "completely new works"... from it's own "creative" brain/code.
I think a lot of people who have ZERO access to the code are making presumptions about how these "AI" sites work. And those presumptions aren't based in fact or anything concrete.
What it means to be a creative individual is rapidly becoming irrelevant when it concerns one's creative expression within society. And the ability to convince others of one's authentic creativity will become difficult. AI is effectively a tool of plagiarism in virtually every discipline including the arts, literature, and science. The "Music Industry" itself has been crap for decades, so no love lost there.
The premise that AI music is only going to take over commercials and sync Is the logical fallacy I’ve seen in other industries. That emotion and real human input will carry the day.
This is a naïve take. If it can take over background music, it can take over foreground music period. It’s that simple.
Yeah, people continuously underestimate the potential of AI. They make assumptions based on its current state and think it’s going to stay like that forever. When in reality, this technology is evolving rapidly and it has the potential to fundamentally change almost every aspect of civilisation.
The more ai-generated content there is, the shitter it's output will be. Those algorithms are not that special. AI isn't intelligent, it just regurgitates what it's given
It's got all the warmth of Muzak.
The music industry has been "destroyed" so many times I lost count.
One place I could see this being used is in the lower budget TV movie industry. Creating a schmaltzy song or two in a Hallmark movie would be much cheaper than buying one and paying royalties.
Already happening
What's happened with the music industry definitely cannot be blamed on AI!!!
I don't think that the people defending AI music really get it.
Spotify for example doesn't pay individually - it pays from the pool of all music (for tracks that hit more than 1000 streams)
Whereas before maybe 100,000 tracks were released each day now with AI music it's already at over a million tracks a day and counting - when this gets more popular it could be 10s of millions of tracks per day. When it was already extremely difficult to be discovered regardless of how good the music was, now musicians have to deal with an absolute barrage of quickly made no effort required artificially made music, that most people cannot tell the difference between something actually made which took days, even weeks to produce.
With Suno you can release almost 100 tracks per day onto DSP's, with just one account, with Udio over twice that amount.
If you say you don't care that's fine, but to say it won't affect artists that are good enough is just plain wrong. The ones it won't affect are the Taylor Swifts of this world.
Artists only get about 6% on Spotify anyways... That is where the issue is. Artists make the money doing live shows and from their community. If you were depending on Spotify money than you had a problem before AI music.
@@abram730 That's only true if you are on a label - I keep well over 50% being independent and make a good living just from streaming.
@@PianoVampire Don't you need a publisher to be on Spotify?
@@abram730 A distributor - my distributor takes 15% but there are plenty of distributors that will allow you to keep 100% of all earnings if you pay them a monthly or annual fee. (Distrokid is around 25 euros for a year)
Apart from the stupid lyrics, the music is better than the Billboard top twenty.
I am a member f a number of songwriter groups on Facebook, what a load of absolute dross, AI much better
If you're into that generic, formula sound that it rips off.
But that's top 40 for you
A.I. was already used for pop and top hits already for a long time... they all sound the same, pop artist are all fake, the octane-core "metal" all sound the same... country is a dime a dozen.. and NOW its available to the public and everyone can call themselves a musician as well.
My life propose is gone.. everything, my touring days, my recording studio days, my hopes that making music will one day make me feel my worth... GONE. This effects so many careers and people! This changes everything
Took you long enough. Music is in this state for like last 20 years.
Putting aside my own existential dread around this tech, I can see it being commonly used as a way of thickening a real vocal take by mixing an original vocal recording with an AI generated version. Thus retaining some humanity but short cutting doubling vocals and editing them to fit. In short, Instant tuneful stacking. Massive time saver without fully surrendering to the robots. That’s how I see it playing out initially - producers subtly blended it with the source human recordings, at least until the tech matures a bit more. It’s scary but you’re right - people are going to get left behind if this isn’t embraced on at least some level
An oddity is that these AI music sites are learning off of a lot of songs where the singer has been autotuned. Sometimes you can hear it in the AI vocal.
Those are the artifacts that will be used as evidence against them. They're copying flaws too.
@@bjornskivids and producer tags showing up too. that will be used as evidence aswell
After trying Suno for a bit I can honestly say many of the results don't actually sound worse, more artificial, than what mainstream producers spit out nowadays.
It's actually hard for me, in almost every genre, to distinguish between many of the artists... That being said, AI could, in a way, maybe it's a blessing because the artists that make "more of the same" will not have a job anymore and the artists that actually make something that no one else can do will be the ones who thrive.
Nope, it's on a thin line from copyright issues. I made a jingle for the studio and first thing my best friend and I recognized the voice of the lead singer from OMD but pitched a bit higher, Andy McCluskey. So there are going to discussions in the future. What I also noticed, that the mastering sounds "ruk" and full of phase issues. What I was impressed from was the individual vocals processed by AI. So individual instruments processing is in danger for us. But what about 10 years? It will probably that good, that we become "obsolete"? Younger people hear immediately that it is AI. Something we adults can't hear. There is a video from Rick Beato about the subject, and he doesn't hear its AI, but his son, also expert in music notes, directly said, this is AI.
AI is a tool, just as any other tools for songwriters and producers. If you learn to use the tool you can benefit from that. If you do not learn to use the tool you might be caught up with time. Just the same with analog recording (or photography) vs digital. It is good if you are able to do both of them.
I love how people laugh AI off, just to realize that 6 months later this thing has improved more than humanity in the last 50 years.
DAWs are about to get completely revolutionized once all this is standard and built in. Imagine working on a song and you tell AI to "Add a piano track in the style of Elton John" or "harmonies in the style of Queen". 2 seconds and bam, you have your track. Shit is about to get NUTS. Imagine jamming with AI. Start playing guitar and a track forms around you in real time. 😮
realtime jam session to simulate a band playing with you would be sick actually
That first example reminded me of the lyrical style of an old new jack swing style funk rap that was once made as an advertisement in the early 90’s for HP. They even made a video clip with a Bobby Brown look-a-like dancing and rapping about the HP series 700 Unix workstations. It’s pretty a hilarious song, back then such a thing had to be created and conceived by humans spending a good amount of time on it to create the concept. These modern AI tools are a wet dream for ad agencies that need to whip together a song for an ad in an afternoon. It’s too easy. The third example reminded me a lot about the sort of thing you get from arranger keyboards that wedding entertainers use with auto accompaniment styles. But this AI version sounded like a really cheap one, some arranger keyboards sound quite decent as a lot of work is done by skilled musicians that create those auto accompaniment styles (they have a lot different genre’s in them). AI tools result in boring music, it’s a lot more fun to dissect a song of a favourite artist and try to recreate some elements from it and transform into something completely different and spends weeks on it and learn new things from it.
I started in the business in 1989, it was an amazing time. Thriving studios, loads of music people loved (and bought), a revolution in sound, the chance of major deals and publishing for the best (I got mine), and a thriving music retail environment. I got my start as I was a whizz with Atari Cubase and synths and samplers. Paid sessions all the time - this all belongs to the past now. I now mix and master for people and keep going that way, though I also have a computer business for 'real' money. Given I have decades of successful experience behind me I should be doing really well, but it's just not there anymore. To me the decline was noticeable by about 2001 when the major studios in London began to shut, sometimes I walk past the legendary Sarm West studios but of course it's all flats now.
AI will eventually kill everything about recorded music - you no longer know what you're getting or how it was made. May be it's not quite there yet but 10 years, 20 years? Music was once rare and special, now it's like wallpaper being churned out by the mile every minute by some big machine. All I can say is that people really love music and will continue to support 'artists' when they can. You see this with the huge ticket prices for large gigs, where people spend hundreds to stand in a field and buy cans of drink for £10. Therefore the future is live, and I'm involved with a company that does 64 channel sound for gigs and DJs - a 3d sound experience that is like no other - there is a long way to go to update the live experience to meet the expectations of the 21st century. All the bedroom laptop musicians will always make music with a lonely quality, so much of the fun of music is people being together doing something together. Incidentally film is suffering from the same problem and is going wrong in a similar way.
Streaming has destroyed the music industry
The awnser is yes and no. Yes because the pop music the last 20 years has been fabricated in the most un creative way where every sound is run through beat detective and autotune. So the listener has been trained to 'like' or expect it sounding like it is made by zero's and ones. It all sounds like plastic already. And no because the producers will (and prob have been) using it already. Music well go back to a performing art and the industry will just push out generated crap for people who don't care.
Well put - and I think we're already there. A lot of people are making their money via live performance because practically no one buys music any more.
Good take actually 💯
Imagine the profit potential for Spotify etc. Not much left of the streaming pot for real artists. Business model is dead.
Real art (any form) is mainly about emotions. That's what makes us human and that is exactly why I am not worried about AI made music - it might be a good tool but it will never make actual art. Don't worry guys and keep creating art in whatever way you see fit🙂
So true, Ai will always be a tool.
But people can use it as a tool, to make hundreds of songs about human emotions.
@@kalidesu Nope. How is AI a tool when you can just write a prompt in and get a better produced track than you can do yourself, and also save time and effort?
AI is not destroying the music business - It's boosting it by cutting the artists. Total revenue through zero payrolls. Now THAT'S A BUSINESS! Unfortunately it's too late to wake up!
15 seconds in... Yes. But the industry needed to be destroyed.
why?
AI will take low-level / entry-level work in many industries. It's an interesting dichotomy because as tools make it easier to get into a creative field, they also make it harder to get into that field professionally by taking away the entry level work.
There are song structure and arrangement issues all over the place with these songs, samey density, samey vocal perfomance, the virtual singers lacking proper vocal couch training, etc...
You can't just feed the machine learning with songs. It has to learn the basics of songwriting and music, mixing, mastering in the first place...
I noticed that machine learning image generation is a lot more advanced, the best models have a level of "personality" or uniqueness that can distinguish them from human made art as well or other machine learning methods. Like a bias for the surreal and the flaws of AI enhance that even more.
Just a single AI image would take A LOT of time and resources for humans for the same result.
What is your point? What are you even saying?
@@jonc8561 The AI song is so badly produced and can't replace humans and real music producers.
@@saricubra2867 not right now perhaps, give it a year though
AI is the easiest way to make a killer remix of Sandstorm
"a killer", yes - a killer of human ingenuity (which arises through necessity).
now Laziness "Rules"....or at least, the Old Money is successful at instilling complacency in the masses.
Dang, you came in hot to the chat.🤣 Went right in for the kill. I like it.
what people dont understand is that AI one day is going to perfect in dithering
AI IS dithering. At least the diffusion models add more and more noise to the material to a point where nothing as noise is left from the original material. As far as I understand. So how could anyone have copyrights on noise?
@@Rasenschneiderbasically all noises, i totally agree
Sueing Suno is like when they went after Napster. Good luck. This will only become larger, time to change their revenue models
Suno is getting sued right now for training their models on copyrighted material. The evidence is overwhelming, the only question is if US law is prepared or not.
@@GoranBackmanMusic
The "evidence" is overwhelming because they don't care. It's most likely not illegal.
@@NoidoDev Is it illegal? Using Copyrighted material to create a business yes? Think
@@jonc8561
Doubt. And I hope not. Using isn't copying. You could use it, to learn from it. There's no law making that illegal. It's public, not under an NDA.
@@NoidoDevI see a lot of people make this point, but I don't think you're considering that if "AI" is allowed to learn and emulate like a human would or can, you're essentially giving it the same copyright protections as a human. If the AI has copyright protections, it too will have copyright obligations. Suno will then have an obligation to emulate, but not copy too closely and thus infringe on existing IP. This will be in issue in the future. Short ish version - 8 year old kid prompts suno and suno makes song too close to an actual song (pick any old legacy artist), kid releases song on streaming. Who infringed? Suno or the kid who typed the prompt? The audio, the melody, the chords, and the rhythms weren't made by the kid, but generated by Suno. If Suno is claiming they have copyright protections in the same way a human does, they also must share the obligations as they pertain to infringement.
2:35. DUDE ! You got your new Theme Song right there ! Have real session musicians replay it.....
I tried to do some traditional songs with AI in reggae style. It's the free version. Whoever heard it was impressed. If you had a pro version to edit and not to work on luck. It would be unattainable for 99% of musicians today. It is interesting that some songs can be done by a phenomenal 10 versions. While some text simply cannot be used in any style. For me as a musician, all this killed the meaning of composing. What we are left with is an acoustic instrument and a light song with company under a tree. This happened to agriculture a long time ago. The peasant manages to get a couple of large strawberries. Then comes the GMO producer with tons of large strawberries of identical color and size. And if they don't have taste, people follow their eyes.
We live in the late afternoon. It's almost night... End is near
The music "Industry" died a long time ago. If you follow Rick Beato, he pretty much tells you how.
AI is the Frankenstein monster animating the dead body of music.
I don't think AI will have any meaningful effect or impact at all to be honest. The most important characteristics like emotional depth, creativity, and unique human experience that only we can endure and bring to the music we create are too essential for music that really makes an impact. If anything, I think the introduction of AI into the music production space will be extremely beneficial in helping artists overcome writer/creativity block, which will lead to a greater and more consistent amount of material that the rest of us can enjoy. Just my two cents :p
Suno and Udio both are being sued in a pretty major lawsuit. They trained their models on copyrighted music.
Also, as far as the "fans want to see live music" aspect. No, they dont. Sure, some do, but the majority, especially younger generations, just want some place to go to meet hang out with their friends that happens to have music. They could care less who is playing, as long as the music is the vibe they are after.
If somebody creates a brand, lets call it Mr AI, and uses AI to create the music, market the music, build their social media etc, It doesnt matter if there is a real person behind it or not. Coachella would much rather pay Mr Ai, who has 20 million followers on tik tok, and just "played" their second boiler room set, a measly $10,000.00, instead of having to pay old and boring Deadmau5 $150,000.00.
Mr Ai's live sets are literally just a playlist, with cool visuals. its a party, its not about the performer, its about the vibe.
Sure there will always be a niche for human talent, somebody using ableton to launch tempo locked clips (created by AI) while playing an electronic drum pad every third song will surely thrive.
The music industry was destroyed for the real musicians years ago. I don't see the AI as the ultimate destroyer
Art is and has always been all about people connecting with each other on an emotional level, it's self-expressing. Those AI pros that you mentioned lack the whole idea of it. AI doesn't have thoughts, it lacks authenticity because it doesn't come from itself personally, it comes from pre-made templates of other people.
Your passion for music and being moved by all aspects of it is what makes you unique.
Can’t say the same the masses.
The generation that used to be as passionate about artist/ lyrics/ music, died in the album era. The “Almost Famous” era.
But lingered till the second half of the 80s.
When sad girls used to fall asleep clutching their albums.
The music industry does a pretty good job of that on its own 😂
my long term theory, as a musician and recording engineer, is that recording led us to this point and that is where the problem started. Recording music takes away the first and most honest presentation. Some famous composers agree with my premise. Recording is bad for music, though history and preservation poses a issue... of should we or not. Arguments for both sides. An once it was an
industry" it was over anyway.
The human connection was already lost somewhat with recorded music. And technology, lowering costs, Autotune, snapping to the grid, etc. also makes music less of a direct human connection... with AI being the final disconnect. Imo, most people won't care if it's AI or not. But for those that do, live music is what's left.
Even as an artist there's some value in these tools, imho. I take advantage of AI in order to get inspiration on creating new music. If you think of it as a support instead of a replacement it can level up your production. It might not be a coincidence that the most common generated contents on Suno/Udio are unlikely genre mashups, like ancient china metal or pirate themed techno. Which is laughable, but also shows the possibilities of crafting new sounds.
The value is mainly for untalented “ artists “
@@Dystopian84 If you're scared of AI music taking you over how do you perceive yourself talented or your music valued in the first place?
@@amishdoink scared isn't the right word here ... I just like to mock those who say : " I MADE a song or a piece of music " when they have just entered a few lines of text ... something that the average idiot is able to do easily , ,they fool themselves into believing that technology allow them to finally " express themselves " lol . If one day I end up doing something like that I would accept others calling me pathetic or untalented .
@@Dystopian84 you might not be untalented, but surely you are starting to be too old for this world (which is pretty alarming considering that I'm born in 1984 as well). Where the hell did I ever say that you should MAKE a song with Suno, in fact I did say the exact opposite, to think of it like a support and not a replacement, and yet you are putting my comment on the same league of non-musician prompters.
@@DarioToledo That " you are a boomer "generic insult is very weak when it comes to these things . I have seen a lot of idiots saying the exact same thing , almost word for word what you just said when I was mocking those who thought that NFTs and the metaverse were the " here to stay " inevitable future lol I am not alarmed that someone born in 1984 lacks self awareness , I have seen it before . Even if you waste time using UDIO as a " tool " by the time you are done millions of imbeciles will just use AI to easily generate and not as a tool , so it won't make any difference and you will be lost in the noise .
So far AI can apply what it has learned form us. We still have the creative process to start from nothing. As long we have drive to create and solve problems will be ahead of AI.
When I was producing and mixing music. I based my decisions on feelings that would arise inside of me. AI can’t do that. I think that’s interesting
Yes, but keep in mind that AI by definition takes human creations as its input. So if things like drama, tension, release, dynamics, emotion, etc. are present in human compositions, those will be translated with increasing accuracy into AI output.
Did you listen to the song in the video? It doesn't matter. Putting in a prompt with new ideas is what matters.
The music Industry....those recordcompanies that enslave talented musicians because they have a music promotion network for airplay which is hard to get into as an outsider?
Using AI to write lyrics will get you a lot of AI overused words like, echoes, shadows, neon, light, souls. I think UDIO is the best one. AI generated audio is a great thing for the future if you think about it in a creative way.
When music users realize that AI music is good enough, they will throw the baby (those geniuses) out with the bathwater. Human made music will become more of a hobby. something like horse raiding.
And, honestly, to me custom made Udio outputs for my weird prompts (that usually require big orchestra among other components) are already more interesting than what I am forced to consume from human artists.
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AI is like the fourteen year old TH-cam guitarist who has otherworldly technique but no life experience to say anything noteworthy. Until AI can actually have sex and babies, fall in Love, get a broken heart, feel like an outcast, lose everything, get sick, watch loved ones die, know that your life is going to end, find redemption, burn with desire to be heard, AND receive divine inspiration-truly good music will always be a human creation because that is who it's for. AI is a tool which will be well used and heavily abused by people with no taste.
The leading edge AI models generate music much similarly to how text is generated in ChatGPT for example: each audio sample (or block of audio, don't know the exact internals) is generated with the context of the prompt and what has already been generated before. There's no "DAW" or any synths and effects in the process; it simply distills its training data and outputs it one chunk of audio at a time from pure noise. That's how it can generate many different instruments and voices.
"sample (or block of audio, don't know the exact internals)"
Token tends to be the word used for the blocks. They do learn an advanced understanding of the music, however that is emergent and can be hit or miss. The reason they use so much data is to maximize the advanced understandings or intelligence.
AI is only a threat for non-musicians who are in there just for money reasons. They should find another job . Good. Meanwhile, AI is a blessing for creative artists. Super !
pls explain more
@@NikosKatsikanis AI can be used to make amazing songs if you take the time to write it out, and it can make songs nobody would make for a few pennies. There are plenty of writers out there that can now make music. AI can also let musicians paint an entire song with one instrument.
Now as far as the non-musicians buying samples and turning out as many tracks as they can, the AI can do that better and in a vast number.
as someone who has been producing for 5 years now , I'm excited about the creative applications of generative ai for artists. if you have knowledge of your artistic field before you jump in, your creative ability and interaction skills are going to far surpass that of someone with no experience in their chosen artistic field when trying to get something desired from AI . its more applicable as a learning tool as well as an inspirational tool.
if the AI music is good and inspiring im happy for it. personally being able to have a lead vocalist and an entire band to create inspiring music that i would never have been able to do without years more dedication to learning a different genres ins and outs + having to find a vocalist and spending lots of money. now we can have music we have imagined at our fingertips and personally that inspires me to hopefully one day see real musicians playing the music ai helped to lay the foundation for( thanks to the amazing human artists creativity).
ALSO shifting to Movies, there is such a flood of utter trash movies these days, im looking forward to the day when a person can create an amazing story from their mind and produce it to share.
I’ve been experimenting with AI music for a few months now, and for me, it’s a great tool. I often have a lot of ideas popping into my head, but I’m not particularly talented when it comes to singing or playing an instrument. Plus, I don’t exactly have a band waiting in my basement to play all my ideas for me.
Don’t get me wrong-I believe AI music can help a lot of people bring their ideas to life. Even musicians can find inspiration in it. It’s just another tool. And honestly, the music industry has already been using algorithms for years to predict which melodies might be (commercially) successful.
I’ll still go to concerts to see my favorite bands, and I don’t think AI will kill off artists. Instead, it might put pressure on those who are just farming listeners for money.
Even with “good” AI-generated songs, there’s still a lot of work and creativity involved.
If you’re curious about my work, feel free to check out my channel! I’d love to hear your thoughts and feedback.
As a film composer I'm actually excited. I'm seeing this more as an opportunity to open your creativity for an even greater array of inspiration and ideas etc. Truly exciting times ahead... especially if you're atually creative ;)
The 3 pillars of society and economy are human labor, human intellect, and morals/values. The first two are about to be devalued to zero. People can kid themselves all day long but this is a big problem and every time someone says their job is safe, they are proven wrong. It's sad actually. I've witness tears over this many times. It won't be real for you until it effects you personally.
@@gaijingeisha9538agreed. As a full time musician, we’ve had to contend with DJ’s talking our work for decades.
Thank you so much for this video! Looked like you had fun with this tough topic. 🎉🎶
-real person
Honestly, when I listen to the audio quality of these AI-generated music creations, I think we're far from being finished... Frankly, it sounds like a bad 128 kbps MP3 and thus isn't usable in a professional environment! As for the lyrics... PFFF, they're completely meaningless... I believe listeners are looking for meaning in lyrics, if there are any in a track; it's better to have a good instrumental than a song with crappy lyrics!
Well okay, we all know one or more totally shitty tracks that have become hits! (whether musically, artistically, or in terms of lyrics... but well... it's not a rule!)
Where we should start worrying is when Musical AIs create a complete track by offering you stems of each instrument/track in 24/96, where you only have to do the mix and mastering... But we're not there yet! Far from it!
And you know, there's no guarantee that Suno will still be around in a year, especially with a huge lawsuit underway from the three largest American record labels for plagiarism, as this AI (and others!) have been trained on millions of already released tracks without the consent of the original authors!
It's clearly copyright infringement! And in my humble opinion, this won't last very long...
There's so much money at stake! Music today is an industry, let's not forget that... and it's not very inclined to stand by and even less to be surpassed...
In my opinion, we still have some good years ahead of us...
But of course, as always, we must be vigilant and make these tools not competitors but allies... it's also our job as sound engineers to keep up with technological advancements in our field...
Keep pushing, man!
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@@nyxnirvana yes i know, but audacity does it better and it's free... check the latest version with all the AI models... and play with it !
Imagine one of the streaming giants includes such an engine, lets you share "your" creations and fun fact, no human involvement, no revenue, so the streaming services can keep the already ridiculous low pps. Do we really wanna give away the highest way of human communication, the only thing that really tells humans and animals apart?
Quite ironically, AI has been both my biggest motivator, and demotivator. I absolutely love working with AI powered vocal synths (AI makes the process much more like editing a performance, rather than programming everything). But AI has also been used for many nefarious purposes in all art forms. I'm glad to see passionate musicians and producers will carry on regardless of the strange times!
Udio is way better than Suno, sounds less "plastic".
AI can’t play what I can play on a real musical instrument. It can’t replace me. However, people can stop caring about that. That’s the issue.
The Recording Industry had already been destroyed by the early 2000s, kiddo.
There is no such thing as a "music industry" outside of publishing. Live performances are essentially _theatre,_ in all of it's variety, and paid actor's scale (not authors) to do covers, and offered nothing for original pieces. Yes, NOTHING(!) No industry (beyond academia itself) exists to apprentice and develop theatrical talent as in other industries; exposure is largely a result of sheer dog-eat-dog payola and underhandedness.
Yooooo this is 100% right, nicely said
wanting to see things in a slightly optimistic way we could hope that AI will do to music what photography did to the visual arts, giving birth to Modernism, freeing the unconscious and experimentation in a sector that was previously mainly figurative and didactic.
There will be a new form of PRO that will deal with paying out training royalties. You will opt in or out during the distribution stage. Most people will opt in because it won't feel like a big problem. The big artists will opt out and will make loads more money licensing training data to high end tier ai generative platforms. Meanwhile a resurgence of "good old fashioned" music will take place with an emphasis on organic human performance. After a while AI models will be trained on Organic human made music styles and a new Punk AI music style will surface where creative artists take malformed ai interpretations of organic music and distort, mangle and manipulate it into a new credible genre (which will later be modelled) ;)
They will simply use content ID to filter out anything that's too similar to something existing.
AI companies have stolen from many artists when training their systems. I am also careful when using the systems, as I don’t want to feed my ideas to them as there is absolutely no copyright protection for your input.
Only the best producers and artists will survive and be “better” than AI.
But all new producers and artists need time to grow and become good. With less opportunities and money in the music industry, there will be less and less new blood entering into the industry, hence fewer great artists/ musicians / producers in the future.
Music producers did it to themselves by generating electronically processed vocals that sound like a robot FFT speech synthesizer. Now the AI can beat you at your own game. Pop music is generated by the dozen without any deep lyrics or "soul" and a few loops repeated.
The sad AI song started like the Unforgiven, lol.
the timbre of AI music on suno is my biggest pet peeve, especially with vocals-
but I enjoy generating instrumentals. I am maybe a bit different but I find a lot of joy in hearing the machine create something that you can actually listen too, and it's interesting to see it get creative about things like builds or drops, I also like throwing my own productions at it and extending them to sort of quickly explore different ideas /with my ears/.
but the timbre still sucks lol. I can see so many really useful ways to use the tools beyond just generating whole songs (which is still cool because I think that's a new and interesting medium for people to communicate in it self, like meme music) but I feel like a lot of these companies are completely missing a huge granular market. Like let me reimagine drum loops in my daw, let me generate synth patches by describing the sound, give me an infinite sample library by generating kicks/snares/hats etc based on descriptions and vibes
Every TH-cam creator is using "AI" to produce music, sound design, images, and video now. I don't see how this doesn't harm thousands of music and sound designers that are on the small end of the industry. Actually it's getting good enough to displace some higher end studios. Not a very good thing IMO.
Ok. Here's my problem with this: I hate the de-personalization of music that this inherently brings to the table. Yes. Even before AI. It was easier then ever for everyone to write a note. You didn't need the schools. You didn't need the years of practise on an instrument. (...though both still exteremely valuable.) You could just click the note with your mouse. Yes. But it was YOUR note. YOU were the judge. And while that judgement was being made in your head, YOU were considering all the things YOU liked in YOUR past. With AI, that "YOU" part is gone. Yes. It writes down a note as well. Yes, it's a combination of older material. But the judgement, the selection, is based on (a dataset-sourced) probability and a little bit of noise. Yes, you can re-generate that prompt few times, but it's still ends up being a random combination of other's stuff. That intention is very limited, if it exists at all. If we normalize in listener's head that this kind of music is equal to the one made thanks to human descision making, then we say "humanity is random, there's no purpose to it". ...and to me that's a reall dangerous message to youngsters.
Musicians went from being the content creator to the content consumer. That’s the most recent issue. AI is a form of techno-feudalism with monthly rental fees. Companies want musicians dependent on their tools, so they can charge for the service. This means the money flows away from the creators and into the pockets of finance executives. Even the AI programmers will eventually be replaced as the AI starts to train the AI… but the executives that own it will always profit.
Maybe play real instruments again lol.
@@kalidesuthat’s not under threat yet. I’m talking more about the huge industry of working musicians making catalog music. I think you are considering this as a musician that doesn’t rely on making music for a living.
I’m thinking more as an educator that wants to understand the future of creativity and the affordances of tools (what outcomes can they produce and what are the processes that lead to these outcomes).
I am also interested in larger things like power structures the perforate society. As a working engineer with over 25 years experience making a living, this presents a huge shift that will affect how we write music. But to suggest real instruments are infallible is like saying amps will never be replaced by digital…
Nah. Content creators went from musicians to "influencers" copying musicians for the ad revenue
It's the TH-cam-ification of music
The Kendrick/Drake beef highlighted the two extremes. Drake's weird use of Snoop and Tupac versus Metro's use of BBL Drizzy.
Sampling didn't destroy the industry like they said it would. DAWs didn't destroy the industry. The internet didn't do it. Creative will always find a way.
That first song is 💯 an impersonation of Anderson paak 🤣 great to finally have you pov on this 🍻
Don't underestimate this because in the next 5 years this tech will advance 100X plus to be more accurate, interesting, human and much closer to being indistinguishable !
I used Wytse to mix and master my album. I will NEVER… EVER use AI. I’m going to be staring another album soon and Wytse will ALWAYS be my engineer.
AI isn’t just for music but for everything. I love AI in everything. It is the évolution of everything. no one is forced to buy music created by AI or by an artist. it’s up to people to choose what they like or want to listen to AI or artist.
I don't understand how you can say it makes it from nothing, ignoring all the people it's been trained on, stolen and devalued. I had more respect for you before you said that.
I lost interest in the industry years ago even before I left the music biz. Sadly the same people who control it mostly also control Big Tech(check those Surnames ppl lol) These ppl will have you end up 'half Cyborg in 20 years) Enough said!
The majority of people will not care if AI makes their music because most people have terrible taste in music. Most modern pop music is so cookie cutter these days it might as well be AI anyway. Also as people get accustom to AI created media, it will just sound "right" to them. Like the over use of Auto Tune. It's just how people think music is supposed to sound.
Like it or not,that is the sad truth.People are undemanding!
Apart from the fact that the title of this video is nothing but a click-bite, and without even watching the video (it would be a complete waste of time) I can tell you that:
- A.I. is not destroying the music industry, and it will not destroy it either
Music industry is one thing, music is the other, and none will be affected by A.I. in any catastrophic way.
Music industry will use A.I. to its own advantage, there will be A.I. generated music, but good man-made music will never be threatened by A.I. generated music
Ok what is it: User input midi to Trans Code magic bla bla (Super Maths) to Electrical Pulse code that interacts with Magnets to create Pressure waves that may or may not have Copyright paper work.. As Opposed To A computer doing it Automatically based on the data of Arranged Pixels.
It's easy to accept an A.I. interpretation of music/art etc. I don't have to think or have any level of discrimination, opinion, sensitivity, choice, placement, blah blah. Maybe as a starting point to build from...but I'd rather not use it at all.
A machine making a picture was only impressive when it was new tech. AI will make human skill worth 10x more. For instance, a computer making 1000 copies of the mona lisa is not special. Worth a few cents a piece. While a person making a nearly identical replica with a brush using hands is 1000x harder. We already know hand-made is worth more. Stop with this nonsense. We already know AI can play starcraft and drums like a machine and tune vocals.
AI programs pretending to type letter by letter on your screen is pure cringe and is a dead give-away that it's trying to fool you into thinking it's intelligent while being a huge text made by programmers with their ideologies and learning from the collective consciousness of humans(evil)
As a non-professional music producer with several label releases under my belt, I can almost completely ignore the threats posed by AI music generators. So far I haven't been able to turn music production into a job and I probably never will. I'm making music just for fun and passion.
But I feel very sorry for all those professional musicians and producers out there who will see their real jobs at risk, because labels, and the music industry in general, will be increasingly attracted to cheap and tireless "AI producers".
Up until the "fans" want to see "the band" live and the "label" has some explaining to do, haha!
you're such a good conversation starter :)
Damn it's been destroyed for a long time. Now it's just the last nail in the coffin.
This song is a HIT! I'm thinking maybe I should cover it. Even the title is a hit, Carolina-Oh
AI zal een zegen blijken voor de muziekindustrie. Het zal het kaf van het koren scheiden. Iedereen kan straks muziek maken die gebaseerd is op het grote corpus muziek dat er nu is. Voor de échte componisten en muzikanten wordt de uitdaging om mooiere en originelere muziek te maken dan AI genereert. Dat wordt de uitdaging en dat is alleen maar goed, want het dwingt om echt creatief aan de slag te gaan...
My Answer: NO. If you really want to make your very special own music, AI will not be able to take all the decisions from you. It can't read your mind about the hundreds of details you want to have in your composition and production.
The labels sued ... BUT .... they also are investing on creating their own AI tools trained by their catalogs, that's why they are mad. At the end we are trapped in the middle.. labels (streaming services) want to own EVERYTHING, and we musicians and producers are not in their future plans.
They said the same thing about synthesizers when they were new