Diana: The Musical is Definitely A Musical

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  • @clown-cult96
    @clown-cult96 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Don’t forget Diana going to see the AIDS patients and how they made all these actual men who really lived in fear and died a bunch of gay stereotypes and longed for eyeliner.

    • @Ophenix12
      @Ophenix12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      “I might be unwell but I’m handsome as hell” - how is that lyric not considered a hate crime?

  • @alexmg3648
    @alexmg3648 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    "tay ammow, tay kyerrow" made me lose my shit as a native Spanish speaker

  • @mylamename14
    @mylamename14 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    The guy playing James Hewitt deserves all the awards. He performs that thankless role like the rent was due yesterday.

    • @bigjedimullet
      @bigjedimullet ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I was today years old when I learned real life James Hewitt is still alive and I do not know how to feel about this information.
      Still, how about that high note, huh?

    • @finmiles965
      @finmiles965 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      YES, he sang that like the whole CAST’S rent was due by curtain call lol

  • @aarishowton8037
    @aarishowton8037 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    This monologuing of “The Rage” is truly haunting, I feel like I’m a 20 year old housewife in 1950 with my hair falling out of a bun while my husband berates me for missing a spot on the floor

    • @BassicallyKiyash
      @BassicallyKiyash 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I didn't read "I feel like" abd was confused for a bit

  • @cas6359
    @cas6359 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    i know diana died objectively a while ago but some of the main ‘characters’ are still alive. her sons are still fairly young and have said they are still struggling with her death. hamilton, which was also based on real people, happened so long ago that it feels a little less weird to turn them into fictional characters. the story also isn’t as well known as diana’s. this just feels genuinely upsetting and i never really cared about the diana uproar

    • @mophead_xu
      @mophead_xu ปีที่แล้ว +91

      yeah that's what makes all these diana "stories" feel so ghoulish to me: literally both of her children, at least one of them was old enough to remember the loss of his mother, are still very much out and about. regardless of how one may feel about that family, the placing of the late-lady as some sort of a public domain figure isn't something anyone should have to experience imo.
      and if it's really just about "knowing her story" she literally had done interviews about it!! you can hear the whole thing right out of her own mouth! all of these just feel.... 💀💀💀💀

    • @jewels3846
      @jewels3846 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mophead_xu and paparazzi is still just ad stalkerish and persistent as before but people diminish the invasion because it happens to celebs.
      I STG all the drama of everyone wanting to keep up on Megan and Harry I have felt for over a year if nothing changes history will repeat. Tabloids and paparazzi having morw rights to someones image than the person for selling rights is so messed up

    • @edwardnotthevampire
      @edwardnotthevampire 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Evita was about recent political history, but even then, it released a good bit after all the characters had already died

  • @HappyLlamaFilms
    @HappyLlamaFilms ปีที่แล้ว +55

    “AND THEN THE KING DIED” hit me like a physical blow

  • @blueisasomedancer
    @blueisasomedancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    I can't believe you didn't mention the giant light up sign that says "WALES" above the scenes in Wales, so you don't forget that it's set in Wales.

    • @harryjamesmiller
      @harryjamesmiller  2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      honestly wish they would've done that for every scene location: "ENGLAND" "BALLROOM" "TUNNEL"

    • @blueisasomedancer
      @blueisasomedancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@harryjamesmiller For Officer's Wife instead of having the cast dress in period appropriate costumes that you can barely see just have a sign come down that says "THE 40'S"

    • @bigjedimullet
      @bigjedimullet ปีที่แล้ว +17

      every comment below this one is now on Welsh territory
      *WALES*

    • @BassicallyKiyash
      @BassicallyKiyash 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@bigjedimullet AGHH CADWALLADR

    • @bigjedimullet
      @bigjedimullet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BassicallyKiyash sut dych chi’n hoffi deez nuts

  • @ExistentialIdiot
    @ExistentialIdiot ปีที่แล้ว +504

    "We start with Diana singing to the audience about how she's only 19, but her mind is older..." Made me legitimately cackle

  • @rontheron4807
    @rontheron4807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1489

    There is just something so deeply disturbing about this need to turn real historical figures into fictional, near flawless characters. Such an insidious way to rewrite history and either stomp on the grave of these real people or conceal the wrong they’ve done. Even in pieces of media that are good it’s really, really hard to ignore and the way it’s becoming more and more common worries me

    • @kaemincha
      @kaemincha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      definitely agree, especially when the events have happened relatively recent in time.

    • @SpookiestAlice
      @SpookiestAlice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I was talking about this a few weeks back wrt the musical Six (After my mom came across a poster for it in NYC). Not to judge the quality of the show itself (mostly I'm not particularly interested in it), but as a historian who based most of my academic life on researching the sociopolitical relationship with media & how we use media to portray history I am a bit...why tho about it. Things like this can be a good entryway for people and history but there's a certain, idk, flippancy that I find disquieting.
      This feels especially awful because its, like, living memory. 25 years is not a long time!

    • @SkiddlyBink
      @SkiddlyBink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@SpookiestAlice i feel like Six is so far removed from being super historical that it doesn't sting the way this kind of stuff is - but i get you on the flippancy, and your take is a lot more based in knowledge & research of the subject. it's definitely weird!

    • @SpookiestAlice
      @SpookiestAlice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@SkiddlyBink When it becomes that divorced from real history I do get to a point of wondering why things couldn't just be fictional anyway. But I full admit that's personal bias :P
      Bu yeah they do sting way, way less than this show. As I said, 25 years isn't that long! I was alive 25 years ago! At least with Six where it fits in with our understanding/sympathy about those women is fairly obvious, I can't even begin to figure what on earth this show is trying to say or how modern sensibility's change how we think of Diana

    • @fusetunes
      @fusetunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      completely agree. that's why i've never been able to enjoy hamilton

  • @kaemincha
    @kaemincha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    omg describing the Razzies as giving CinemaSins vibes just makes so much sense

    • @Falhaes
      @Falhaes ปีที่แล้ว +7

      right? Razzies are awesome at highlighting how stupid the Academy Awards became, ditto CS vs. cinema criticism.

  • @operation_turtle
    @operation_turtle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    it completely glosses over the fact that they hated her because she challenges what it meant to be royal. not because she was being nice. she didn't care that she was royal and refused to change herself for them. like most 20 year old girls.

    • @ALNizhoni
      @ALNizhoni ปีที่แล้ว +22

      She absolutely *DID* care that she was royal. Diana was a royalist through and through. She was a monarchist, and was born into an aristocratic family who trained her for the life of a well-born wife of someone wealthy. It just so happened that Charles was the 'someone wealthy.'
      Diana was no commoner who 'broke the rules.' She was at odds with the Queen because she felt she didn't get the support she required, while the Queen felt that she had everything she needed.
      But Diana was happily ensconsed in her royal life and duties. She would be appalled at what one of her adult children has become; not just because he's a whiny and entitled brat, but because he's distanced himself from his royal birthright, which she felt was of utmost importance.
      Diana was a royalist, and there is a TON of information about this available.

    • @widowrumstrypze9705
      @widowrumstrypze9705 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ALNizhoni FERGIE was the "commoner" wasn't she?

    • @jewels3846
      @jewels3846 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@ALNizhoni Projection much 👀

    • @ep9158
      @ep9158 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @ALNizhoni you seem to be ignoring what diana herself has said. in andrew morton’s biography, which entails the transcripts of his interviews with her a much fuller side of her story depicts anything but what you’ve said. you’re correct she was born wealthy and was by all means privileged. this does not denote the abuse she faced after being thrown into the royal family. the press absolutely hated her at first (everyone seems to forget this entirely), picked her apart and tore her down. they targeted her body, her clothes, just about everything she did and no one offered to help her. after the media decided to actually like her, charles treated her even worse than before bc he was a jealous prick. she was severely ill, from self harm and an eating disorder. not to mention her su*cide attempts. she loved her children more than their father ever seemed capable of. to say a dead mother who has only ever displayed love for her children, would dislike their leaving of the very institution that treated her like shit is a bit absurd.

    • @shannonceleste5557
      @shannonceleste5557 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @ALNizhoni it's almost as though people irl are complex as hell, which is probs why ppl shouldn't be writing whole ass musicals about such current public figures

  • @kazza6078
    @kazza6078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +537

    The "A baby Charles, I'm going to have your baby Charles" line might be my favorite part of the whole show. When I hear it I feel like im watching the Simpsons and they wrote this show as a throwaway bit. Straight parody, yet completely by accident. I go feral.

    • @howdypardner6278
      @howdypardner6278 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      the delivery makes it sound like 'charles' is like. a category of baby. impeccable 10/10

    • @clairethompson5549
      @clairethompson5549 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Could not agree more lol

    • @bigjedimullet
      @bigjedimullet ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@howdypardner6278 gender reveal: boy, girl, charles

    • @bigjedimullet
      @bigjedimullet ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@howdypardner6278 wait hang on does this mean ACAB can also mean Assigned Charles At Birth

  • @hammy5668
    @hammy5668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +562

    I’m ready to take our parasocial relationship to the next step. I officially stan

    • @ali-ds5vx
      @ali-ds5vx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      this is so funny 😭

    • @martagavi
      @martagavi ปีที่แล้ว +18

      you posted this 11 months ago but this is the best comment i've ever seen (and remembered afterwards) and i need to let you know

  • @metamaske6328
    @metamaske6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    Shout out to the designers and stage managers here cause holy heck there's a lot going on

    • @harryjamesmiller
      @harryjamesmiller  2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      there are so so many people who make productions happen and none of them are recognized enough!

    • @Lumina_Solaris
      @Lumina_Solaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@harryjamesmiller I just saw Hamilton in St. Louis two nights ago, and I gotta say, the lighting people were fucking amazing. Hands-down the best part of the show. The audio people, though, were mediocre enough that I realized that there is actually someone who manually turns down the volume of the mics on the characters on stage, because they missed on turning it back up quickly enough that some of the lines had their beginning parts go unheard. Up until that point, I had not realized that there was someone doing that throughout the show. And the actors tried to make up for it by boosting their voices when they would realize we could barely hear them, but there was only so much they could do. But, like, holy shit, the lighting was phenomenal. The timing for every bit of the lighting was as ideal as you could possibly imagine.

    • @rosswilson8720
      @rosswilson8720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Lumina_Solaris As someone who works in the industry im sorry to hear that the sound at the performance you saw wasnt great. Im sure it must have been a new sound operator who was still learning the show. I do think that comparing the 2 different departments isnt completely fair though. Live sound mixing is a true art form and takes a lot of work to master especially in the case of a big musical like Hamilton. During a performance a sound mixer not only has to listen the show but they also have to follow the script and move sometimes 10 different sets of mics up and down in a matter of a split second all by themselves. Whereas the lighting department presses a single go button and has the luxury of having their GO cues called by the stage manager.

    • @Lumina_Solaris
      @Lumina_Solaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@rosswilson8720 Yeah, I figured it was probably a new person. We all have to learn somehow. And, I've actually seen Hamilton before, so, when I said I hadn't realized before this point that the audio people do all that, it was because it was done so well that it seemed effortless. In the arts, particularly, you want things to be done so well that people don't realize how much really goes into it. The first time I saw Hamilton, in Chicago, the audio was really good, and I don't remember the lighting being anything special. The second time I saw it, the audio was off the mark in a couple of spots, but they added a ton to the lighting part of the show. So, when I say it was phenomenal, it's because I had seen it in Chicago, and when I saw it there, it was not nearly as impressive and seamless. There was a lot less going on. When I say the timing for the lighting in the St. Louis one was on-point, I mean it was like they had a former drummer back there on the lights, because it was right on tempo. And I know the word mediocre has fairly negative connotations, but I just meant that the audio for this particular performance was mediocre: not really bad, but not anything particularly good, either. Are you in audio, out of curiosity?

    • @rosswilson8720
      @rosswilson8720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I completely understand what you mean! No im actually a stage manager, its kinda our job to know everything. 🤣

  • @juliahamilton8811
    @juliahamilton8811 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    With the context of Diana’s mental health struggles, eating disorder, and suicide attempts driven in large part by the royal family’s treatment of her and gaslighting… a musical with comedic elements feels… gross.
    If you want a really good timeline of Diana’s life (that actually highlights how cruel Charles and Camilla were) I’d highly recommend the Princess Diana episodes of the You’re Wrong About podcast!!

    • @christiedavis7195
      @christiedavis7195 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes! You’re Wrong About covered it tremendously well! So insightful!

    • @kaylaaa6351
      @kaylaaa6351 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I saw this comment and listened to the entire five parts of the podcast in a day. Thank you for the recommendation. It was fascinating and heartbreaking all at once

    • @justkittensbeingkittens5892
      @justkittensbeingkittens5892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the recommendation! I only realized watching this vid that literally all I knew about Diana was that she was royal and she died in a car crash. Im rather embarrassed…

  • @HamiGirl1
    @HamiGirl1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    "you want a girl? you gotta SHOOT BETTER, CHUCK." i am WHEEZING. so happy to see a long video from you!!!

  • @clioalexandra6485
    @clioalexandra6485 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    You hit the nail on the head about them not wanting to offend anyone still alive (meaning Charles and Camilla). But that really just leaves such a watered down version of Diana's life. Charles and Camilla are the antagonists. They just are. They do Diana dirty and everyone loves Diana to this day. It would have been way more fun/entertaining if the musical just went there and allowed them to be portrayed as the villains that they are.

    • @alexisb3829
      @alexisb3829 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Exactly! They’re the ones that made her life so terrible at times

    • @kmarine8852
      @kmarine8852 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I think the real villains are the British monarchy as a whole which forbid Charles from being with Camilla in the first place bc of the ridiculous royal rules, that whole family set them all up for failure

    • @bigjedimullet
      @bigjedimullet ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@kmarine8852 honestly I would watch a musical about a couple kept apart by archaic royal traditions but whose love for each other endures until the world changes enough to accept them. Not Charles and Camilla, mind, I just want this hypothetical musical.

    • @vanyadolly
      @vanyadolly 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Villains don't exist IRL, and Diana wasn't a saint either. Why are people so obsessed with twisting real-life human beings into fairy tale caricatures?

  • @louiseisprocrastinating8448
    @louiseisprocrastinating8448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    i wish they would stop yassifying the british royal family.

    • @aarishowton8037
      @aarishowton8037 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They aren’t yassifying them, that is not what yassify means 🥴🙄

  • @nicolemeiner6903
    @nicolemeiner6903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    The Spanish singing is so hilarious to me because as far as I know, Diana didn't know any Spanish. She knew a little Welsh and I think I read in a couple places that she knew a few words/phrases in sign language, but not Spanish.

    • @bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322
      @bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean- you don’t have to be fluent in Spanish to know how to say “I love you.”

    • @BassicallyKiyash
      @BassicallyKiyash 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 This is Rihannas' influence on the world

  • @lauraln3704
    @lauraln3704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I blame Lin-Manuel Miranda for a lot of things

  • @rosiesswrld
    @rosiesswrld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    It felt like they were just doing the musical as a means of entertainment, making light of a very tragic series of events. They even made it seem like we (as an audience) should feel bad for Camilla and Charles like they weren't genuinely crap people.

    • @romywhite290
      @romywhite290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      It it also felt like they were taking themselves TOO seriously. Like it needs to be a statement, in the way a high schooler likes everything to have an obvious moral and emotional beats. All with songs that don't sound different from each other and lyrics that just... Are not good.

    • @Lumina_Solaris
      @Lumina_Solaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      So, that's the problem with making a musical that has "characters" of people who are still alive: it limits the characterization out of fear of offending.

    • @bigjedimullet
      @bigjedimullet ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ⁠@@Lumina_Solaris Weirdly, I can only think of one time where a musical about a living person didn’t do that, but that musical was Fun Home, and it was written with the permission, involvement, and clear-eyed critique from its main subject, Alison Bechdel. Then again, that show is about middle-class Americans who run a funeral home, so I guess everyone involved felt like there wasn’t really any danger of… I don’t know, shattering anyone’s illusions?

  • @KatBaumgarten
    @KatBaumgarten ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I think making the royal family out of touch and extremely confused at why people like diana more should be even more of a focus like what a great set up for a play-long gag where the royals ignore the people call them inferior, mistreat their servants and are bewildered that diana is a favorite

  • @PeggyKoneko
    @PeggyKoneko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    I am uncomfortable with the idea of this musical existing. Maybe it's because I remember her death and I'm only 30, but it's just so odd to see a musical made about what feels like a recent tragedy? Idk how to explain my feelings about it.

    • @Ethan-qs7fo
      @Ethan-qs7fo ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Seriously imagine "COVID: the musical" like FUCKING WHAT

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wouldn't you have been 4 years old? How do you remember it? Lol

  • @lolcatharley6369
    @lolcatharley6369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Okay so I didn't know about Diana's struggles with self harm or SI or about any of the attempts she made so this musical really hit me like a ton of bricks on that front. The fact that they introduce that and completely PG- ify it or not really address it is SO damn insensitive! I like historical musicals that have fun modern spiels but also take a moment to give grave moments the seriousness they deserve. Like the musical Six, that really does this concept and the genre very well! Diana the musical by comparison is completely gone deaf and seems insulting even, especially as you say, it tries not to be offensive. By trying not to offend anybody, it deeply offends a lot of people by steamrolling right over the serious harm Diana went through, or at the very least deeply wounds me to see it depicted like this.

  • @barbaramiller5310
    @barbaramiller5310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Having only seen the Netflix version, I had no idea it was a "F$#%ity" dress! The homogenization definitely changes the tone dramatically and comedically. And I stand by my recasting of the Queen/Barbara Cartland to a drag queen.

    • @thekneesbee
      @thekneesbee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was so excited to share this idea when I was showing the video around like "his mom had this idea he says at the end but imagine-" because Barbara Cartland was taking them off guard.
      It's all we could talk about during Here Comes James Hewitt!

  • @billvolk4236
    @billvolk4236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    This show is the definition of high camp. It wanted to be taken seriously, and that makes it much, much funnier.

  • @senpais
    @senpais 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    i will forever be thinking abt the words "shoot better, chuck" every time i see a picture of the royal family

  • @schneefall3935
    @schneefall3935 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Harry my ginger haired son" and "The stories girls are taught to believe are not the stories that a girl should believe" will forever be burned into my brain. Charles' rage song slaps though, it goes so hard and I unironically enjoy listening to it. It doesn't really fit the pop sound of the rest of the soundtrack though :/
    Edit: Typo
    Edit 2: Diana singing about all the things she'll do only to die immediately after kind of works in my opinion, because it really shows how young she was and how much life she still had to live, which is one of the things that make her death so tragic. In a better show this would have been a real punch to the gut and I will defend this ending until the day I die (not the very last lines by Charles and the ensemble though, those are indeed very Hamilton-ripoffy)

  • @sophiahughes5355
    @sophiahughes5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    "Shoot better, CHUCK." Is my favorite like from this video

  • @lothanyfountain9443
    @lothanyfountain9443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I never thought I’d hear the word slay emitted by Princess Diana yet here we are? I don’t know if this is necessarily a bad thing but it definitely isn’t a positive.

  • @bigjedimullet
    @bigjedimullet ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Watching this on the eve of the coronation and it feels like glimpses into a fever dream. These characters who have too many songs with unhinged lyrics are about to be king and queen of an actual country.
    I don’t know what this timeline is but it’s *wild*

  • @Ambarfing
    @Ambarfing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    this is such a wild concept…they should have stuck with a singular tone and not hopped around between serious and comedic 💀

    • @AleksandarBell
      @AleksandarBell ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Or if they wanted to use serious moments they could’ve thrown in a funny little line afterwards to make it less serious

    • @jewels3846
      @jewels3846 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hell dark comedies can exist but like... Not like this. This is a midlife identity crisis

  • @fuzzydays5699
    @fuzzydays5699 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Damn, that monologue of “The Rage” made me despise Chuck even more than I already do. Hate that they tried to get the audience to sympathise with Lizzie and Carmilla. Diana deservedbetter than this. But damn the songs are good tho

  • @ethangordon9762
    @ethangordon9762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    I'm too tired to leave an in depth comment but I like your videos a lot and I had a good time watching this. I also mean this in the both the best and worst way: you are SUCH a theater kid. Do with that as you will.

    • @harryjamesmiller
      @harryjamesmiller  2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      i mean at this point there's no use in running from it. this made me for real laugh out loud. glad you enjoyed

  • @mollymcdade4031
    @mollymcdade4031 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’m always amazed how people acted like this show was an intentionally camp masterpiece when like 80% of the show is over the top, sincere yet boring melodrama. The other 20% is the memorable camp insanity, but you have to sit through a LOT of corny earnestness to get to it.

  • @babywigeon
    @babywigeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    the worst of the diana musical was definitely the bit with the AIDS patients 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @lothanyfountain9443
      @lothanyfountain9443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I’m sorry I’m seven minutes in, what?!?

    • @roosaheikkinen8468
      @roosaheikkinen8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @@lothanyfountain9443 It's full of Gay stereotypes and Includes the lyric
      "I may be unwell but I'm handsome as hell"

    • @lothanyfountain9443
      @lothanyfountain9443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@roosaheikkinen8468 wait is this a joke

    • @roosaheikkinen8468
      @roosaheikkinen8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lothanyfountain9443 It's terrible and insensitive. Here is a link to the song.
      th-cam.com/video/6f6V9McnRGs/w-d-xo.html

    • @that0nerandomperson374
      @that0nerandomperson374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@roosaheikkinen8468 O h n o o o

  • @LoonyScamander
    @LoonyScamander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The bit of you dancing along with the ensemble member made my day. So glad this got released from copyright purgatory

  • @lunaticproductions0
    @lunaticproductions0 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I havent actually watched it, but this musical kinda reminds me of this german musical about the austrian empress "Sissi" which is called something like Elizabeth The Musical; The True Story of Sissi. Now, I havent watched an actual full performance of it yet, Ive just listened to the soundtrack, so Im definitely missing a fair bit of context but I still feel confident enough to make a comparison here. For the most part its conventional, we have songs about how independent and free-spirited Sissi is compared to all the sheeple of the time or whatever, songs where she argues with her husband, again, fairly similar to Diana The Musical. Really the most interesting thing about it is the fact that Death is an actual character and he has like, a weird love story/affair type thing with Sissi thats also potentially a metaphor for struggles with suicidal ideation (? again dont have the full context). But then at the start of the second act we get this musical number called "Kitsch!" performed by Lucheni, the antagonist of the show. It fully breaks the forth wall and has a very different vibe to all the other songs and its essentially about how when you flatten historical figures and their lives in order to make entertainment out of it, all youre left with is kitsch and its calling out both the audience and people who create that entertainment for preferring romanticized historical fantasies to actually engaging with history. Now, the songs after this are pretty much the same in terms of tone and content as the ones before, and also I feel the need to remind you that a mayor plotline in this musical is actual Death personified being in love with Sissi, and since I dont know how exactly this all plays on stage I dont wanna pretend this musical is like, genius satire of itself or whatever, but its clear that the people working on it were somewhat self-aware of what they were doing.
    I honestly feel like Diana is really missing something like that, especially considering how much they seemingly gloss over the uglier parts of her life that you cant dramatize (without coming across as inhumanly insensitive atleast) like idk, atleast *try* to acknowledge that what youre doing is kinda fucked up, especially considering how relatively recent Dianas death actually was. Then again, if anyone involved with this was actually self-aware I feel like it wouldnt have been made in the first place lol

  • @totalgeek4
    @totalgeek4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    BYE WHEN YOU SAID THE WHOLE OUTFIT I WASNT EXPECTING THE SHORTEST SHORTS EVER DJJFNFNFJFJ

  • @emmashannon9978
    @emmashannon9978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    harry your showchoir is showing at 24:20 (for real though this is the first diana breakdown i've seen that talks about how much camilla is in it?? why does she have SO MANY songs??)

  • @eddieregretti
    @eddieregretti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    the problem with musicals is they can be objectively terrible and i will still laugh, cry, love every minute. yeah, this is not a good musical but also its a great musical and i love it.
    anyway, this video is incredible.

  • @wormlive
    @wormlive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I had no idea they don't watch the movies for the Razzies!!! Of all shows to get a recording in the first place, I'm burnt out on the historical figures genre. Please I just want to see that big ass Sandworm puppet.

    • @luthientinuviel3883
      @luthientinuviel3883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big sandworm puppet my beloved

    • @breawycker
      @breawycker ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean there's no way they could guarantee that people have

  • @demitwice
    @demitwice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    the musical itself sucks but the songs are so annoyingly catchy, I've had underestimated stuck in my head for ages and i feel like I'm going insane

    • @luthientinuviel3883
      @luthientinuviel3883 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      James Hewit lives in my mind rent free😭

    • @bigjedimullet
      @bigjedimullet ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Honestly if Bad Cinderella had half the fun songs Diana has, it probably wouldn’t be closing in a couple days.

    • @schneefall3935
      @schneefall3935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm ashamed by how often I listen to the soundtrack😭"Diana (The Rage)" stands out especially, it's such a genuinely good villain song even though it doesn't really fit the pop sound of the other songs

  • @jamessimon3433
    @jamessimon3433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It simply cannot be overstated that the queen would NEVER speak about her prince (bkegh) or love or anything even close. The queen's dialogue in this crazy mess of a thing is deeply wrong.

  • @Cat-fe1fg
    @Cat-fe1fg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    So someone really really identified with Camilla huh lol 😂 I would love love love more musical commentary from you!

  • @tj87451
    @tj87451 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Ok BUT
    Charles's singing voice? Incredible and wasted on this musical

    • @Ethan-qs7fo
      @Ethan-qs7fo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ALL OF THE SONGS ARE SO GOOD FOR WHY????? SOMETIMES I COME BACK TO THIS VIDEO JUST BCS THEY'RE STUCK IN MY HEAD

  • @user-ld6th3vw8e
    @user-ld6th3vw8e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    "the worst job in england" is sooooo funny like oh my god it's just so hard to sit around soaking up taxpayer money while the people are on food stamps that's just so hard and stressful for us
    also why doesnt this video have more likes youre so right about this whole mess

    • @AleksandarBell
      @AleksandarBell ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I think it’s funnier to imagine that everyone’s talking about being married to Charles and not being a princess 😅

    • @foreignparticle1320
      @foreignparticle1320 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Perpetual obligation to the public on one side, and to an institution that's older than the English language on the other, zero privacy + unrelenting global media attention, your whole life being bound by formula and timetables, thousands of forced public appearances, the obligation to birth an heir, and no chance to express your self and personal opinions. Maybe not literally the worst job in England, but certainly a job that you're bound to absolutely loathe if you're not prepared to give yourself up entirely. This is something the Queen understood, and I suspect that if the House of Windsor did nothing but "sit around soaking up taxpayer money", the whole thing would have collapsed a long time ago.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@foreignparticle1320 they only exist for the same reason that us Americans cling to our pennies: tradition. Yes, they're expensive and basically useless, but, hey, tradition. They have a bit of soft power, sure, but they still would have that if they were just a rich family instead of nobles

    • @Phantomphan613
      @Phantomphan613 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The royal family won't fuck you​@@foreignparticle1320

  • @nonbinarychaoticstupid6678
    @nonbinarychaoticstupid6678 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    something so poetic abt watching this on the same day as the coronation

  • @yourmusekay3492
    @yourmusekay3492 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's official, this video has become a comfort to me that I return to when I'm stressed. Thanks for this, you are among the ranks of hbomberguy (and his pathologic video). :salute:

    • @harryjamesmiller
      @harryjamesmiller  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      this is so nice! thank you, i hope you see this when you come back to the video :)

    • @yourmusekay3492
      @yourmusekay3492 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@harryjamesmillerThank you for this reply!! I just came back to this video (stressful week!!) and I just saw this reply. :D I think I'll leave a comment each time I come back about a favorite moment. This rewatch's fave moment? it's gotta be how intense Diana (The Rage) is when you performed it as a monologue. CHILLS!! Also how hearing you sing even briefly 'AND THEN THE KING DIED' was beautiful :3 (If you ever post more of your musical performances, I'll be checking them out for sure!! Floozies is FUN)

  • @thekneesbee
    @thekneesbee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I'm actually really happy to hear I'm not the only one who was surprised by them singing in British accents.

  • @basementdwellercosplay
    @basementdwellercosplay ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I only want to introduce myself like James does, women singing my introduce and himbo stance and of course
    Ladies... other ladies

  • @estherriley6879
    @estherriley6879 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Carrie’s “But what does it cost to be kind” ending was blunt and heavy handed but at least it was musically interesting

  • @ryleemellon45
    @ryleemellon45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Okay seriously why did she say "I will" instead of "I do" it's eating me ALIVE

    • @stilted
      @stilted 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      It's the British way.
      Source: I've seen 1 (one) British sitcom wedding.

    • @Tobelia
      @Tobelia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Yeah “I will” is what we say in wedding vows in the Church of England (if you watch any of the royal weddings, that’s what they say).

    • @GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend
      @GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "Something is not American and it's EATING ME ALIVE"

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriendchill, not everyone is aware of other people's customs and if you don't know, then you don't know to ask about it either. This person actually was able to get clarification and you choose to mock someone for not knowing something that's pretty inconsequential? This is why people don't want to learn

  • @itsjustchiara
    @itsjustchiara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    please do more theatre related content!!!! i looooved this (PS have you ever read the transcript of a phone call between camilla and charles that got leaked to the press where he described how he wanted to be a tampon inside of her???? yeah that really happened, and he could be king soon which is good and cool!!!)

    • @patiencekillz
      @patiencekillz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      WHAT

    • @cinderellaskeleton6720
      @cinderellaskeleton6720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@patiencekillz finally, a reason to respect him.
      Honestly his parents were cousins so I don’t even blame him for having fucked up kinks, Camilla’s just lucky he doesn’t have webbed feet.

    • @blueisasomedancer
      @blueisasomedancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That transcript is where the whole "I miss you most on Sunday" thing comes from so I KNOW they read it.

    • @fossilfighters101
      @fossilfighters101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cinderellaskeleton6720 eyyyyyyyyo?

    • @vampirelibrarian777
      @vampirelibrarian777 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      this comment hits different now,,,, all hail the tampon king ig

  • @joyjenkins9052
    @joyjenkins9052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    That dance break was majestic. Well done good sir.

  • @emmamariemontoya6161
    @emmamariemontoya6161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    theatre kid commentary is all I’ve ever wanted from this godforsaken website

  • @lauraln3704
    @lauraln3704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Why the hell is Lady Diana singing in terrible SPANISH?!? What is this musical?!?! WHY is this musical?!?! Who made this and who approved this?!?! I wonder how the actors feel about this project??!? Do you think they were passionate about it or did they just take it out of need of employment?!? Why are the accents so bad?!?!

  • @kk0shhh_
    @kk0shhh_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This was recommended to me on the day that Lizzie II died. Buzzing for Diana

  • @AlexisTwoLastNames
    @AlexisTwoLastNames ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i know fashion was way diff in the 80s, but i have never really felt the weight of the “fuck you” dress. it seems so basic and average. but then i look at what she wore other times in this play, and it was quite a bit more modest, so it makes more sense.

  • @Blue_Avatar
    @Blue_Avatar ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Your mom is a literal genius for suggesting the queen be a drag queen 😆

  • @candicepeters4090
    @candicepeters4090 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    obsessed with an intermission in a youtube video

  • @fiona9092
    @fiona9092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    THEN THE KING DIEEEEEEED

  • @finmiles965
    @finmiles965 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With how the London theatre concert of this went/the general vibe I can see this becoming like rocky Horror if they camp it up a bit haha

  • @jack.miller3
    @jack.miller3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    i think ive watched the costume change at 23:30 like five times now. holy shit what

  • @user77331
    @user77331 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im watching this by myself and laughed out loud at 17:23 😂 (also your monologue of the rage was genuinely more entertaining than the actual song)

  • @sholem_bond
    @sholem_bond 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly, just from the clips we've heard in this video, the opening number seems like a bop.

    • @sholem_bond
      @sholem_bond 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a decent classism/elitism critique hidden somewhere in "This is how your people dance," but the show/script doesn't really commit to it and follow it through. They seem to focus on the generational tension more than the elitism.

    • @sholem_bond
      @sholem_bond 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It seems like the songs in general are more upbeat and cheeky than I would have gone.
      These aren't deep cuts at all, but thinking of OBCs like "Les Mis" and "Wicked," they're both way better at being foreboding, and communicating "someone/multiple people are about to die, or get their lives ruined" in the opening numbers and running musical motifs?
      Given that this show is about someone who fucking DIED, in a national tragedy at the time, a tragedy that was also transgressive for the British royalty's control and PR (some people still think the royal family had her killed)... Shouldn't the music communicate the gravity of that more?
      (Also, why make a musical about a person with known mental health issues, if you don't want to talk about mental health?)

  • @kazza6078
    @kazza6078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    When i want to desceibe how nuts this show is I describe "James Hewitt"

  • @medusssa_archos
    @medusssa_archos ปีที่แล้ว +6

    when you brought up monologuing wicked songs i immediately thought of someone trying to do a monologue of no good deed

  • @shartatttack
    @shartatttack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yesssssssssssss do more musical adaptations and TEAR THEM TO SREADS

  • @m1ssw1z61
    @m1ssw1z61 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It wasnt until the Queens last song did we realise Prince Philip was barely in the musical at all. Probably because they didn't want to touch All That with a 10 foot pole

  • @ifinditamazing
    @ifinditamazing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Not the monologued song 💀

  • @timeforlaurynsopinion5138
    @timeforlaurynsopinion5138 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this has officially been added to my roster of comfort youtube videos to fall asleep/vibe to so thank you for curing my insomnia

  • @michaeltonus3888
    @michaeltonus3888 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Charles, marvellous news, I'm going to have a baby. Right now.

  • @thattyeagain7132
    @thattyeagain7132 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You're the Danny Gonzales/Drew Gooden/Kurtis Connor of the theatre world

  • @dechoraptor
    @dechoraptor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    God I love theatre commentary videos lmao THANK YOU

  • @kaitlynvanklompenberg287
    @kaitlynvanklompenberg287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    incredible. i love that i know of this musical's existence now

  • @CMitchell2849
    @CMitchell2849 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think part of the reason why this musical was so bad relates to what you said near the end of the musical. It almost tried too hard to be like Hamilton. It tried to make you sympathize with the villain, which doesn’t work because we literally cannot feel any empathy or sympathy towards the woman who manipulated a teenage girl. We could feel for Burr because we could see the reasoning for his actions. The very last song tried too much to be like “Who Lives Who Dies Who Tells Your Story” by literally telling us the entire meaning behind the musical. Hamilton genuinely came from nothing, while Diana was born into nobility. It just doesn’t hit the same.

  • @LauraisLoading
    @LauraisLoading 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    More musical theatre content 🥺 the theatre people are STARVING

  • @marleyfrost215
    @marleyfrost215 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the song 'If' because it demonstrates how Diana is finally free from the constraints of the monarchy. It shows that her whole life is ahead of her, full of possibilities to live however she wants. Tragically, she never gets her happy ending, which I find profound and heartbreaking. Despite its reputation, I absolutely love this musical 🤷‍♀️

  • @acevenchurro8716
    @acevenchurro8716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    24:18 i just laughed so hard i choked for a moment. imagine this being the last thing i see

  • @whotfisjobie
    @whotfisjobie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    bon jovi is my favorite band, and i was very excited to see that harry had made a video about this musical. yes, these are related. this musical was written by bon jovi's keyboardist, david bryan (and joe dipietro but shh) and i was very excited to see if harry would mention him at all and the only mention i did get was that he is old. thank you harry i appreciate it.

  • @kazza6078
    @kazza6078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This video is such a great chaotic demonstration of exactly why I love this musical.

  • @kazza6078
    @kazza6078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you SO MUCH for 24:19 I about lost mind. Brilliant. Phenomenal. Show stopping. 17/10

    • @kazza6078
      @kazza6078 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm back to watch again. I can't express my joy enough

  • @needleintheslay
    @needleintheslay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    finally it’s here !!!
    edit: the ensemble deserves every award ever wow

  • @Indomitable_Alykat
    @Indomitable_Alykat ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "Chekhov's Nice Guy" is such a great line, I'm going to use this forever 😭

  • @snoot_mcgoot
    @snoot_mcgoot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I genuinely chortled at the tomato joke. beautifully done.

  • @sunnydayzz0
    @sunnydayzz0 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It’s not an intermission if you keep talking, HARRY
    /j

  • @TindraSan
    @TindraSan ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't understand why they didn't just record the show with a live studio audience present.
    The Starkid musicals are being recorded better and better every show and every time there is an audience bc it's just straight up a multi-camera recording on one of the performances!
    Heck, if it was a matter of wanting to do retakes or w/e they could've just put a fake laugh track there.
    MULTI-CAMERA SITCOMS WERE ORIGINALLY JUST FILMED LIVE STAGE COMEDIES ANYWAY

    • @carolinemcgovern4488
      @carolinemcgovern4488 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean I was gonna say it was covid times but Come from Away did theirs with a Live audience so why couldn't this one?

  • @acoelomate2984
    @acoelomate2984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i almost saw this show when it was opening because we were planning a trip and my mom thought it looked cool and then things happened and while i think i would have been kinda annoyed at my mom if we actually went it does seem like an ok show and i really appreciated ur take on it. also the brown david gilbert thing made me laugh so hard i had to replay it like 5 times to actually see what was happening

  • @lionblaze0384
    @lionblaze0384 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:00 cats video when I am BEGGING you

  • @emcornish
    @emcornish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Commenting to please the algorithm gods because this video is well done and very fun. Good job Harry. Pls post more videos on literally any topic, you are a joy to listen to

  • @argylethedead
    @argylethedead ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I worked on this show while it was at the La Jolla Playhouse. Boy do I have stories.

  • @quietlywandering
    @quietlywandering 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video Harry! I'm not a musical person at all myself but I like these kinds of videos, especially coming from someone who knows a whole lot more about theater and musicals than I do. There's a Diana musical over here in the Netherlands as well, which includes grown up versions of William and Harry and even Meghan Markle. It hasn't gotten great reviews lmao
    I do think it's funny, also from what you talked about in your video, that the way Diana's life gets treated now is pretty similar to how it was when she was alive, and that was the exact thing that caused her so much suffering. Her 'story' (the literal life she lived) gets sensationalized, she gets this dreamy perfect like status, so far removed from an actual human being. A little self awareness, also towards the Royal Family like you mentioned, would go a long way I think.

  • @caer1799
    @caer1799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video was fantastic!! The intermission was perfect

  • @caitlyn5834
    @caitlyn5834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I too, stand by the old tomato joke. 10 out of 10

  • @nguiklian
    @nguiklian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My favorite part is when u were singing it looks like u were having a good time :)

  • @1enaverse
    @1enaverse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    yay! i was rewatching one of your videos the other day and i was happy to see this upload pop up in my notifs. really enjoy listening to ur commentary, you’ve got great delivery and it makes me happy to listen to you talk about whatever, even if i don’t know much about diana: the musical. excited to finish this one!

  • @squirreltastrophe
    @squirreltastrophe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how much you appreciate ensemble! :D ensemble is so important adkjfhalksjh!!!!

  • @carlysimpson9518
    @carlysimpson9518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still thinking about your video about a week after I first watched it. Such a compelling, entertaining, and insightful video essay. You’re such a great creator!

  • @lisagillum-wells1979
    @lisagillum-wells1979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, I like your honesty. "I can't shut the F up"😅😂
    I personally love Diana. They can't help that the script needed work. I think they skirted around the subject. Since Di is gone, they can't portray her in a "bad" light. Charles is a sicko. He loves Camilla as a mother figure and lover. The first time I heard that, I wanted to barf. 🤮 That would be like some woman wanting some man to be her dad and lover. (Oh God, make it stop!) The Royal family didn't deserve Diana. She wasn't perfect, but she tried.