All those Sincerely, Me animatics really convinced me that Dear Evan Hansen was about a gay dude romancing a gay ghost via gay emails. Or that it was a dark comedy about a ghost communing with his living boyfriend so they could join forces once more to stay in the closet (or the casket). What could’ve been, smh
If I were the Murphys, I'd be actually terrified when Evan come clean about the lie. This absolute stranger made a place in their home (to the point he can aperrantly can come and go whenever), made stuff up about their dead son to the point they can't remember what he was really like while alive (as long as I'm concerned Connor could've hated the damn orchard) and dated their daughter (poor Zoey mouth kissed that melting wax figure with beaver wig). And all he says is "Sorry, but I was very sad. I'm just a little guy" Change the music a bit, and it's a pscyhological thriller.
@@thomasb7347 dude, i can't believe i haven't ever thought about this! it makes sense tho...like they could do a dramatic reveal at the end of the play that evan actually killed connor and is having a psychotic break or something
@@mmsjjdjdh Connors death made all of his wildest dreams come true. He got friends, a girlfriend, money in general and for college, national fame. If he was some psychotic murderer it'd make perfect sense
OK so re: Ben Platt looking so old in this movie. Here's the thing - he actually has a bit of a baby face. From photos, I'd be like - yeah, he could pass as a high schooler in an American movie. HOWEVER, he decided to lose weight for the role (bc he figured evan was the kinda kid who maybe didn't get regular meals). But losing weight - once you're over the age of like, 25 - makes you look older. Especially if it's a decent amount in a short period. Hence why celebs pump filler into their cheeks, or look like they've aged 10 years if they've had buccal fat removal. If he actually wanted to look younger, he shoulda put ON some weight. That's why his face looks so waxy and gaunt, and why he looks older than he did in pics.
I thought Does Anybody Have a Map? was an important grounding song to introduce the families’ situation. Then Good for You was also super important and was a huge part of the storyline having both Evan getting called out and eventually having an emotional payoff.
We don't talk enough about the part where his speech is going poorly and everyone whips out their phones. I know that's like the turning point of the story but the concept of filming someone during a memorial at ALL is... crazy. Like "wow look at this loser not speaking well at a memorial for (supposedly) his best friend"
@jessiecool007 you're correct on people filming everything but there's no way that an entire audience of people would all independently decide to film at a memorial to make fun of a kid's speech. If it happens at all (which i don't think it would), it would be one idiot who starts filming, not like dozens all at once.
Ben Platt being an elderly looking nepotism baby in this movie was just the cherry on top of this clusterfuck. Thank you for watching it so I didn't have to, Harry!
Man he was good. I don't know much about musical theatre, but I like the way he performed his song with a pop edge - like, it's still PERFORMED and acted, but it sounds so modern and fresh. Which works for a modern story about teenagers. It also doesn't feel just like a pop singer doing musical theatre - sometimes when pop artists do this it just sounds like they're singing the hell out of these songs, but not rly being a character?? Anyway he has a banging voice and so much charisma. And the way he dances looks effortless
He was Ben's understudy and absolutely should have! And they should have further given us a well put together Connor, I'm totally cool with his stage actors not always matching his intended vibe bc it's stage, but for the movie I feel we definitely deserved long haired nail polished Connor
One reason I thought this show was about gay issues was “The Connor Project.” I heard that name and assumed it was a legally distinct stand-in for The Trevor Project.
One thing that bugs me about this movie that I've never seen anyone really touch on is how, yeah, Ben Platt looks too old to be a teenager, but the movies makes that so much worse by casting the other high schoolers with actors who are several years younger then him and all believably look like they could be in high school. Even in something like Glee, which had people older than Platt playing teens, there was such a variety in ages of the performers that it never really stood out.
I saw a performance (in Chicago) of this musical my senior year. I didn't know much about it, but many of my peers said it was great and discussed mental health in awesome ways. as someone who spent a lot of their teenage years incapacitated at home, staring at a wall all day, because of mental issues, I was super keen about it. I cried my eyes out during the performance. not because it touched me so immensely, but because it was exactly the same as so many of my classmates: claiming to be passionate about mental health but not really saying anything. delegitimising actual issues. taking someone who is affected by suicide and making their struggles about you. it hurt.
Ok listen. I'm a mentally ill teenager with a lot of mentally ill teenage friends and I have to say that "What do you take?" is NOT A NORMAL CONVERSATION STARTER FOR SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW VERY WELL??? Like sometimes it'll come up in conversation if we're talking about side effects or trouble getting refills or someone is trying a new medication but you don't just... ask that??? It's not even necessarily a stigma thing it's just really weird
I hate hate hate that they took out good for you but more importantly I hate that the band is playing it during the pep rally. And more generally that the marching band is going hard and Zoe is just in the front randomly strumming. Jesus, this movie makes me want to scream :)
I went to college with Liz Kate (the extra that he loves) and when DEH came out she invited like half of the school to go to the premier with her. She’s so cool!
They needed to get the guy who did the staging for the greatest showman for this movie because it’s basically devoid of interesting and engaging choreo or blocking. A majority of the songs are sung just sitting or walking around.
I remember when the movie was first being advertised n they said they were gonna give evan some sort of redemption arc, or make sure he doesn’t just get away with it. turns out by that they meant “cut every song that calls him out n hope nobody thinks about it too hard”. I never liked deh in its original format, but this movie somehow did infinitely worse. I don’t think I’ve even met a genuine deh fan who likes it
re: heidi AGAIN. i do Not get the decision to add alana as another mental health plotline. like truly heidi is right there experiencing her own mental health struggles n we’re just gonna ignore it?? just because what. she’s old? not relatable?? dude freaky friday (2019) with the love of my life heidi blickenstaff tells a better “everyone struggles with mental health no matter how different you think you are” narrative than this
Back in the day I was a fan of the show and interacted with fans, and I can assure you everyone I knew who liked deh didn't actually like deh- every fan was actually talking about a better parallel version of the show they had created in their mind and convinced themselves was deh. I was extremely guilty of this- I relistened to the musical recently and was like holy shit this kind of sucks lol. But as a teenager I loved it, mostly because I thought of the show as being about different things and saying different things about the topics than it actually was. Wild honestly.
@@bogboybogboybogboyb oh for SURE. I was only really deh-adjacent ever bc I never liked the show, but the way I saw everyone posting about it (ESPECIALLY in relation to queerness which there was. none of. people sort of just made that one up bc they needed it from somewhere but didn’t want to look further) vs the actual contents of the show, it was always so clear everybody was lying to themselves n they probably should just be getting into fun home instead (I say fun home bc I think it handles every issue deh tries to tackle, or people insist that deh was trying to tackle, with infinitely more depth n decorum. but there are plenty of shows that do the same thing, it’s definitely not the only option)
@@sir-dame-sander yep yep confirmed, as someone who formed intense emotional attachment to the queer versions of Jared and Alana that only existed in my brain 😅
I feel like they tried to do a musical that deals with suicide and that was a good topic to try to discuss, however the execution is horrible. The way he capitalized on that poor boys death was disgusting. As someone who’s lost people to suicide I can honestly say if someone did what Evan did after I lost my loved one, we would throw hands.
id like to think he made the profile and liked the rehab center cause they had a phony deal where if you like their page you get free cookies for breakfast or something
Sucks that this got caught in copyright hell, it deserves more love As much as I love Jenny Nicholson’s DEH video, you covered a lot of ground that wasn’t touched on in hers. What a beautiful property to roast to hell and back
the actor who played connor in the movie was ben’s understudy as evan on broadway. he’s the best and now he’s nominated for a tony award! his name is colton ryan :)
genuinely can't believe grant gustin's delightful rendition of "sincerely me" that i watched at least once a month for a year and a half stemmed from the same source material that created this absolute monstrosity
it's so funny to think that I found out about this musical from tumblr because of sincerely me, loved it, and then realised that the musical was nothing like I thought (seems to be common lol). as a young teen I did enjoy the soundtrack but over the years realised what a strange show it really is, and this movie is just an absolute trainwreck and I'm just so baffled about basically every single choice they made 😂 biggest being maybe, was everyone too afraid of producer daddy platt to comment or critique on ben's performance? because my god did somebody need to tell him that he is doing extremely uncomfortably too much in every way 😂
I wonder if the reason this was a stage show first and not a movie is because there's a certain degree of suspension of disbelief that goes on with theatre that doesn't exist with films. I mean okay that doesn't explain why it wasn't conceptualized as a movie first but I think the movie just makes it more obvious that the show is...weird. I also wish if we were to get film adaptions they'd do something other than live action- how could would a stop motion hadestown be? also ben platt in this movie looks like john noble, especially in for forever when he's crying and its so, so funny to me
i really wish the movie had included the cut song "in the bedroom down the hall". it would've really made it all the more tragic, it would've made his mother specifically more fleshed out. i wanted them to explore more of how connor's family felt and i feel like that song does an amazing job.
I'm like 2 min into the video so I'll probably edit this with more comments lol, but my first thought re: the Tonys (Tonies?) DEH won: in WHAT WORLD did it deserve Best Score over Great Comet. DEH has such a generic sound, Great Comet is like one of the most unique musicals I know, Great Comet deserved everything DEH got
they changed the pronunciation of appalachia because the way he says it in the cast recording is wrong. it's pronounced with the "ah" vowel because if you say "appa-lay-cha" i'll throw an "apple-atch-a"
Wait, they're splitting Wicked into two parts? Why? How?? WHY? It fits into the time limit of a normal musical, what are they going to add besides the requisite Oscar bait original song written for the movie?
I know this is late but from my understanding they’re adding more stuff from the book Wicked’s based on. Still kind of confusing why they chose to do it that way, but at least it offers some explanation.
They’re just trying to draw it out to make more money. Just like how they made part twos all the time back in the day. For an example, Harry Potter and Twilight.
as a depressed teenager, i absolutely loved dear evan hansen and really related to evan (i know) but as a depressed adult who realizes he's kind of a sociopath i like people roasting DEH a lot more lol
I listened to this musical for years without looking up a plot synopsis or anything besides the szin Sincerely Me animatic. Imagine my surprise when I read the book and realized I'd Been Conned
I think the true reason why this musical doesn’t really say much about mental health is that it wasn’t. Many songs were cut or adjusted after the musical started getting lauded for it’s “discussion” of mental health, one song in particular is A Part of Me, which eerily sounds a lot like You will be found, however it’s about the how trendy jumping on the bandwagon during tragedy is. One of the main writers based this on his own perception of tragedy where people did this exact thing. They originally were going for the darker tone, but after all their acclaim, they decided to change their brand to that of spreading a positive message for mental health, by not really saying much.
I feel like the biggest reason the musical got as popular as it did was cause the songs were good and something others could relate to - yet if you were to watch in the context of the musical and film, they either make the scene worse, the meaning behind the song muddled, or just stop the story altogether just so that the actor/actress can have a ballad.
well its aldo cause the broadway version is legit funny to watch. For example, the scene where evan is writing a letter to himself, its played off more funny while the movie version takes it more serious and thus you just feel bad for evan.
DEH is a good musical. Of course, it is not without it flaws and weird inconsistencies. But the things it brought to light and could teach others is wonderful. It makes you sympathetic for many of the characters in different ways. Even Evan sometimes. It makes you cry. It makes you realize that not everything is always about you. How easily people can lie about such sensitive topics to do with mental health. How waiting to do something might just make things worse. Admit what you did even it’s hard. Being aware of the people around you. Just doing the right thing. Lying is never the answer, even if it makes people feel better, it’s not worth it. The truth may hurt but it’s the truth. It shows the repercussions Evan has to face in the end and learns from the harm and terrible things he’s done to the people in his life. The people who he cares about. It doesn’t make him feel good to lie, it doesn’t make anything better. It makes things worse. He doesn’t get a happy ending, he gets called out and that is what he deserves. But there’s still jokes, and it doesn’t take itself completely seriously all the time. Sincerely, me, is a great example! Even in such a fucked up situation like Evan making up fake emails about connor and himself communicating. The movie doesn’t get a lot of these points. It’s tone is very off. Sincerely, me feels out of place without some of the more lightheartedness of the original play, it takes itself very seriously. It takes out songs that show how much a dickbag evan had been. And while deh is quite good, there are also better lesser known musicals that deserve more recognition and could’ve actually been done more justice in theater. Dear Evan Hansen, like you said… is definitely of it time. Let it die!!! Dear Evan Hansen, please no.
Off-topic/On-topic, it said a lot to me that during a press tour for The Politician, Ben Platt forgot he worked with Laura Dreyfuss before the show for many many months on Dear Evan Hansen and when she brought up that they had worked together prior, he was so blase about it but you could tell it genuinely hurt her feelings.
Ahh been so excited for this, glad it's finally out! While I enjoyed the stage show I was always surprised DEH swept the Tonys that year given I much preferred both Come From Away and Great Comet, so it has been a bit of schadenfreude to see the movie get revenge for me. Love when you talk about musicals!! That "Popular" cover bit had me absolutely cracking up
I've been waiting for this one to drop since you mentioned it a month ago! Dear Evan Hansen has been a big part of my life; I literally got a quote from the show as my first tattoo. However. I absolutely agree with the notion that the movie especially missed the mark. Although I will always love the cast album, I had my issues with the live show, and REALLY had issues with the movie. (This is absolutely copium, so take it as you will) the way I've come to see the live show is as almost a critique of how mental health is discussed and the tendency of the internet to care about causes only as long as they're relevant in pop culture. When I watch 'you will be found,' I pay attention to the fact that (at the shows I saw) the actor playing Evan seems like he's getting more overwhelmed as the clip of his speech goes viral. In my mind, the show is (maybe, this is a stretch to say the least) commenting on the way that other people are taking advantage of the moment to push for their own causes. in the live show, this is further supported by Jared and Allanah's push to get the Connor project through-in the original script, we learn that Allanah is motivated by a desire to pad her resume and get into a good college, and Jared wants to sell pins to make money off of the whole endeavor. As such, I am able to view the whole storyline as more of a tragedy, where although I might not identify with the choices Evan makes, I can appreciate the gravity and sadness of the whole situation. This is where the movie lost me, tbh. By trying to make every character sympathetic to Evan, I have a harder time getting through the film without getting mad at Evan. I also feel like this choice sort of ruins my mental image of Connor as a character; this idea that everyone in the school who saw him as an outcast and a weirdo would suddenly switch to genuinely championing causes on his behalf just seems too good to be true, and I feel that it comes off as more on-the-nose 'If you have a friend, you can cure your mental illness' than a deeper criticism of that line of thinking. Definitely just my take on this, but at least for me, that was the thing that made me dislike the film despite being a fan of the album, and in part, the live show 🙃
I will say, this musical does hold a massive place in my heart, even though I really hate certain parts of the plot. I line up with the information way too much for comfort. As someone named Evan who has autism, severe social anxiety, and many other things (friends names and other information I wish not to say), this show really fucked me up. I have a horrible issue with saying no. Now I wouldn’t be caught in a lie this massive, but I did feel very seen when the musical first came out.
What I don’t get was that it worked so well as a play but the tone in the movie was just all wrong. And absolutely hate that they cut the moms from the first song. A travesty. And they also cut my favourite song that Evan’s mom sings. I was so mad
2 things 1. Elana is the most insufferable character in the story, yes I'm including Evan 2. Something the film makers either didn't realize or didn't care to realize (nepotism ftw)is that the reason Ben Platt can play Conner on stage and be just fine is because the audience can't see him well meaning no one's going to notice/care that Ben is much older than a teenager and speaking with your hands is necessary. That doesn't translate to film because the camera is right in Ben's face and you can see the jarring difference between him and the rest of the cast.
What I really wish is that Zoe was somebody he had a small crush on only in the beginning, but then instead of Connor ending his life ( at least not as quickly as he did in the story ), Evan apologizes about the letter, and they find a way to clear stuff up. Then, they grow a friendship and bond together. You could have Zoe be the catalyst for their growing relationship, but I think at the end of the day it should have been about Evan and Connor growing together and learning from each other.
wait… why in the scene on the first day of school with jared asking evan about his crush on zoey… is the marching band playing a cover of “good for you”… the song taking evan to task and that was for some unknowable reason, cut from the film?
TL;DR there is a book series that does the exact shit you wanted but didn’t get from DEH, and it’s Ellen Hopkins’ Crank series. There are ten of them, they’re all poetry with poems that need to be read multiple ways, there’s really good representation of queer youth, abuse, and trauma. Gold spraypainted trash idea, if you read DEH like a psychological horror story, it accomplishes what 13 Reasons Why utterly bastardized and failed to. After Connor died another kid _stole his life._ And excused it with being suicidal. His family preferred the version of himself Evan presented. If they were ever abusive it’s treated as impossible by Evan and frivolous by the narrative, but they’re an upper class white nuclear family trope, and the ways they all talk about their interactions with each other is like, if you want to put that into a story there is decent room for concern. And in FICTION you can really explore the angles of how something strange and horrible plays out. Connor’s parents excuse his behavior, Zoe counters that he threatened her life and implies they didn’t take care of either of them in that situation. They’ll say he was struggling but there’s no real emphasis on him being in therapy, getting diagnosed, trying regimes of meds and them not working, having trouble finding specialists, being in and out of psych wards, Connor doesn’t have a relationship with the police (who are the ones who show up to take you to a psych ward if your parents make that call btw) nor do his family, like... they have the financial and social resources to be doing whatever number of legit and illegitimate things to get Connor help, so are they like, not doing that? That’s weird right. Why would they not get him help? Why isn’t Zoe in therapy, and it isn’t even on her radar? Connor’s parents are Evan’s idealized parents but they’re like, kind of a Stepford cookie cutter Man Father and Wife Woman. Also you do not have a healthy relationship with your child if you have to learn about them through a friend of theirs that only shows up in your life after they’ve died. That is really weird. That is really really weird. Tbh it’s baffling that they didn’t have Evan and Connor have some sort of deep relationship that would require secrecy even if it’s like. Yeah we dealt drugs together or we like buried a body. And they could have been gay, but not into each other, or just like. The furious romanticism of teenagers portrayed realistically but appropriately and they just happen to be two boys. I’m not against that, it would make a Lot Of Sense for Connor to hide a boyfriend or a friend he had a crush on from his family when his family’s Like That.
what they couldve done is gotten jordan fisher to play evan hansen and have ben plat play maybe as the father of connor or make a sort of cameo in some way...idk just makes sense to me
Between "Dear Evan Hansen" and "Rent," Stephen Chbosky needs to stay away from musicals. [Okay, technically Chbosky only wrote the script for the "Rent" movie, but it still counts to me.]
Hi I’m a year late to this video but I want to rant. I think the issue with Evan’s character (excluding the melting) is that he doesn’t show any major symptoms of mental illness, he’s scared to talk to the girl he likes and delivering a speech full of lies to a large crowd and he tried to khs offscreen but that’s it really. We don’t get the vibe that this is a sick child you get the vibe that this is a child pretending to be sick. I think no one finding Evan after he jumped out of the tree should have impacted him more. Have him be more clingy and unstable. We hear that he’s mentally ill offscreen but we don’t really see it. The idea that you could die and no one could notice could really screw with your psyche and I think they ignored that.
On a barely related note: sincerely thank you so much because i have been trying to think of a Brennan lee mulligan character for a few days and when you said 'unlikely animal friends' it triggered something and i instantly remembered. More related: I loved this video and it's so cool that you and jenny notice different things so both videos are fun to watch. ❤
13:11 I am conflicted that they changed the pronunciation of Appalachian. Because the new recording is the correct way to say it (as someone from the Tennessee part of it), but I don't know why no one caught Ben mispronouncing it in the movie. I also know that the wrong pronunciation is the more popular one, and someone who just lives near the mountains would say it like that.
I prefer the movie version of “Sincerely Me” to the stage version. I love both, but the one I play more is the movie version. Evan and Connor cutting off Jared as he sings “But not because they’re gay, no not because…” is perfectly timed and really funny! Also, you had a missed opportunity when you said the movie’s setting should have been around the start of the “it gets better” movement…. “But not because they’re gay!”
I always felt like the musical would have been better as a black comedy with the whole thing having the vibe of "Sincerely Me". The way it is now, "Sincerely Me" feels incredibly out of place, even though it's my favorite part of the whole musical. It also needed a less "feel good ending" in my opinion, which would have worked in the comedy genre without making it too depressing
the broadway version is actually a black comedy. For some reason the movie version just wanted to be more serious which made the movie just not fun to watch and you just dont want to sing the music as for the broadway version, you legit want to sing to the songs.
I loved this musical on Broadway, Platt was incredible in it like I’d nothing I’d ever seen in live theater, the music was fresh and the story reminded me of World’s Greatest Dad. What the movie effed up is that type of story is a dark comedy! There’s so many absurdist things in a story like that, but instead the movie went for Oscar bait? Completely missed the mark in tone for this type of subject matter which *can* work
Appalachian is actually pronounced (apple-AY-chin) and not (apple-AH-chin) so he only pronounced it correctly in the movie album but not the movie itself, which is a weird choice
My Appalachian friends insist on “Apple atcha” like “I’ll throw an apple atcha!” So I assume he got sick of hearing about how he mispronounced it on the album and corrected it for the movie
@@aytchjay-vvv Yeah my best friend from Arkansas insists on the short a version as well. I honestly think it’s good they corrected it but it was weird that they went back to the wrong pronunciation for the actual film 🤷🏻♀️
It’s funny, I hate the story of DEH, it’s questionable at best, but tbh the music slaps so I just listen to the bops and ignore there’s anything behind it
i think if the characters were all younger high schoolers instead of seniors it would be so much less creepy. i could believe a 15 year old letting this snowball out of his control more than an 18 year old. could be just me tho.
Evan looks like Corey Matthews in the movie, and also - my God, DEH came out when I was an adult and so it just felt kind of insulting, really. Also, man, wealth value has changed in 20 years, huh. Zoë and her family look like underdressed middle class people instead of, I dunno, clinging remnants of the Regina Georgian/Clueless-era wealth that I’d expected when I read the Wikipedia page and heard she was rich. It’s hilarious.
All those Sincerely, Me animatics really convinced me that Dear Evan Hansen was about a gay dude romancing a gay ghost via gay emails. Or that it was a dark comedy about a ghost communing with his living boyfriend so they could join forces once more to stay in the closet (or the casket). What could’ve been, smh
It really promised me a gay haunting and instead I got melting Ben platt
a gay haunting would've been the perfect halloween flick
I want your version of Dear Evan Hansen
I know this was months ago, but in the book version they give Connor a secret boyfriend (which was ,, interesting)
" a gay dude romancing a gay ghost via gay emails" 😭
If I were the Murphys, I'd be actually terrified when Evan come clean about the lie. This absolute stranger made a place in their home (to the point he can aperrantly can come and go whenever), made stuff up about their dead son to the point they can't remember what he was really like while alive (as long as I'm concerned Connor could've hated the damn orchard) and dated their daughter (poor Zoey mouth kissed that melting wax figure with beaver wig). And all he says is "Sorry, but I was very sad. I'm just a little guy"
Change the music a bit, and it's a pscyhological thriller.
‘i’m just a little guy’ 😭😭
I'd be worried he killed my son in order to use his death
@@thomasb7347 dude, i can't believe i haven't ever thought about this! it makes sense tho...like they could do a dramatic reveal at the end of the play that evan actually killed connor and is having a psychotic break or something
@@mmsjjdjdh Connors death made all of his wildest dreams come true. He got friends, a girlfriend, money in general and for college, national fame. If he was some psychotic murderer it'd make perfect sense
@@thomasb7347 somebody write this version of DEH!
OK so re: Ben Platt looking so old in this movie. Here's the thing - he actually has a bit of a baby face. From photos, I'd be like - yeah, he could pass as a high schooler in an American movie. HOWEVER, he decided to lose weight for the role (bc he figured evan was the kinda kid who maybe didn't get regular meals). But losing weight - once you're over the age of like, 25 - makes you look older. Especially if it's a decent amount in a short period. Hence why celebs pump filler into their cheeks, or look like they've aged 10 years if they've had buccal fat removal. If he actually wanted to look younger, he shoulda put ON some weight. That's why his face looks so waxy and gaunt, and why he looks older than he did in pics.
The biggest crime this movie commited was cutting Good For You. That song is an absolute bop and it actually calls Evan out on his bullshit
for real! give me some accountability!
I thought Does Anybody Have a Map? was an important grounding song to introduce the families’ situation. Then Good for You was also super important and was a huge part of the storyline having both Evan getting called out and eventually having an emotional payoff.
@@MegCazalet cutting both of them out removes his mothers' role in the story despite her mattering A Lot
We don't talk enough about the part where his speech is going poorly and everyone whips out their phones. I know that's like the turning point of the story but the concept of filming someone during a memorial at ALL is... crazy. Like "wow look at this loser not speaking well at a memorial for (supposedly) his best friend"
well people will film ANYTHING these days just looking to mock strangers online, so that's unfortunately plausible.
@jessiecool007 you're correct on people filming everything but there's no way that an entire audience of people would all independently decide to film at a memorial to make fun of a kid's speech. If it happens at all (which i don't think it would), it would be one idiot who starts filming, not like dozens all at once.
Ben Platt being an elderly looking nepotism baby in this movie was just the cherry on top of this clusterfuck. Thank you for watching it so I didn't have to, Harry!
I LOVE the actor who played Connor. Maybe he should’ve been Evan Hansen.
Man he was good. I don't know much about musical theatre, but I like the way he performed his song with a pop edge - like, it's still PERFORMED and acted, but it sounds so modern and fresh. Which works for a modern story about teenagers. It also doesn't feel just like a pop singer doing musical theatre - sometimes when pop artists do this it just sounds like they're singing the hell out of these songs, but not rly being a character?? Anyway he has a banging voice and so much charisma. And the way he dances looks effortless
in the broadway show he was actually ben’s understudy!
He was Ben's understudy and absolutely should have! And they should have further given us a well put together Connor, I'm totally cool with his stage actors not always matching his intended vibe bc it's stage, but for the movie I feel we definitely deserved long haired nail polished Connor
Actually he's been the understudy for Broadway before!
He has gone on for Evan Henson on Broadway before
One reason I thought this show was about gay issues was “The Connor Project.” I heard that name and assumed it was a legally distinct stand-in for The Trevor Project.
One thing that bugs me about this movie that I've never seen anyone really touch on is how, yeah, Ben Platt looks too old to be a teenager, but the movies makes that so much worse by casting the other high schoolers with actors who are several years younger then him and all believably look like they could be in high school. Even in something like Glee, which had people older than Platt playing teens, there was such a variety in ages of the performers that it never really stood out.
Jenny Nicolson goes hard on this point if you haven't seen her video yet!
I saw a performance (in Chicago) of this musical my senior year. I didn't know much about it, but many of my peers said it was great and discussed mental health in awesome ways. as someone who spent a lot of their teenage years incapacitated at home, staring at a wall all day, because of mental issues, I was super keen about it. I cried my eyes out during the performance. not because it touched me so immensely, but because it was exactly the same as so many of my classmates: claiming to be passionate about mental health but not really saying anything. delegitimising actual issues. taking someone who is affected by suicide and making their struggles about you. it hurt.
Disappointed that you didn’t put a trigger warning. You can’t just cut to a clip of Ben platt without warning anyone I had a panic attack
same, how irresponsible of harry 😔
Fr, I had such awful nightmares after witnessing that. So irresponsible 😔
Ok listen. I'm a mentally ill teenager with a lot of mentally ill teenage friends and I have to say that "What do you take?" is NOT A NORMAL CONVERSATION STARTER FOR SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW VERY WELL??? Like sometimes it'll come up in conversation if we're talking about side effects or trouble getting refills or someone is trying a new medication but you don't just... ask that??? It's not even necessarily a stigma thing it's just really weird
i legit thought connor was gonna write 'c*nt' on evan's cast
I love you theater Drew Gooden
I hate hate hate that they took out good for you but more importantly I hate that the band is playing it during the pep rally. And more generally that the marching band is going hard and Zoe is just in the front randomly strumming. Jesus, this movie makes me want to scream :)
I went to college with Liz Kate (the extra that he loves) and when DEH came out she invited like half of the school to go to the premier with her. She’s so cool!
that’s so cool!
They needed to get the guy who did the staging for the greatest showman for this movie because it’s basically devoid of interesting and engaging choreo or blocking. A majority of the songs are sung just sitting or walking around.
30:40 now this right here is a superior and correct take. pop covers are OUT, orchestral suites are IN
for real!!
I remember when the movie was first being advertised n they said they were gonna give evan some sort of redemption arc, or make sure he doesn’t just get away with it. turns out by that they meant “cut every song that calls him out n hope nobody thinks about it too hard”. I never liked deh in its original format, but this movie somehow did infinitely worse. I don’t think I’ve even met a genuine deh fan who likes it
re: heidi. best character in the show. only well-written one. it is a CRIME what they did to her here
re: heidi AGAIN. i do Not get the decision to add alana as another mental health plotline. like truly heidi is right there experiencing her own mental health struggles n we’re just gonna ignore it?? just because what. she’s old? not relatable?? dude freaky friday (2019) with the love of my life heidi blickenstaff tells a better “everyone struggles with mental health no matter how different you think you are” narrative than this
Back in the day I was a fan of the show and interacted with fans, and I can assure you everyone I knew who liked deh didn't actually like deh- every fan was actually talking about a better parallel version of the show they had created in their mind and convinced themselves was deh. I was extremely guilty of this- I relistened to the musical recently and was like holy shit this kind of sucks lol. But as a teenager I loved it, mostly because I thought of the show as being about different things and saying different things about the topics than it actually was. Wild honestly.
@@bogboybogboybogboyb oh for SURE. I was only really deh-adjacent ever bc I never liked the show, but the way I saw everyone posting about it (ESPECIALLY in relation to queerness which there was. none of. people sort of just made that one up bc they needed it from somewhere but didn’t want to look further) vs the actual contents of the show, it was always so clear everybody was lying to themselves n they probably should just be getting into fun home instead (I say fun home bc I think it handles every issue deh tries to tackle, or people insist that deh was trying to tackle, with infinitely more depth n decorum. but there are plenty of shows that do the same thing, it’s definitely not the only option)
@@sir-dame-sander yep yep confirmed, as someone who formed intense emotional attachment to the queer versions of Jared and Alana that only existed in my brain 😅
I feel like they tried to do a musical that deals with suicide and that was a good topic to try to discuss, however the execution is horrible. The way he capitalized on that poor boys death was disgusting. As someone who’s lost people to suicide I can honestly say if someone did what Evan did after I lost my loved one, we would throw hands.
Dear Evan Hansen would’ve worked so much better as a heathers-esque comedy
That’s the way it was on Broadway!
@@uhuhuh1966 having seen the slime tutorial I feel like it still takes itself too seriously sometimes, but oof the movie blows it out of the water
@@eponymouselias heathers has moments they take seriously too, it’s always a balance in dark comedy
id like to think he made the profile and liked the rehab center cause they had a phony deal where if you like their page you get free cookies for breakfast or something
5:24 they're....they're playing Good For You in the background...as a marching band song. What?!
Sucks that this got caught in copyright hell, it deserves more love
As much as I love Jenny Nicholson’s DEH video, you covered a lot of ground that wasn’t touched on in hers. What a beautiful property to roast to hell and back
the actor who played connor in the movie was ben’s understudy as evan on broadway. he’s the best and now he’s nominated for a tony award! his name is colton ryan :)
genuinely can't believe grant gustin's delightful rendition of "sincerely me" that i watched at least once a month for a year and a half stemmed from the same source material that created this absolute monstrosity
Oh FINALLY someone understands the gender neutral urge to do unspeakable things to make Amy Adams happy!!!
One thing Spielberg also had in West Side Story that deh WISHES it had is Mike Faist giving it his all
it's so funny to think that I found out about this musical from tumblr because of sincerely me, loved it, and then realised that the musical was nothing like I thought (seems to be common lol). as a young teen I did enjoy the soundtrack but over the years realised what a strange show it really is, and this movie is just an absolute trainwreck and I'm just so baffled about basically every single choice they made 😂 biggest being maybe, was everyone too afraid of producer daddy platt to comment or critique on ben's performance? because my god did somebody need to tell him that he is doing extremely uncomfortably too much in every way 😂
You referencing euphoria was not in my bingo card im crying I had to do a double take for that
I wonder if the reason this was a stage show first and not a movie is because there's a certain degree of suspension of disbelief that goes on with theatre that doesn't exist with films. I mean okay that doesn't explain why it wasn't conceptualized as a movie first but I think the movie just makes it more obvious that the show is...weird. I also wish if we were to get film adaptions they'd do something other than live action- how could would a stop motion hadestown be?
also ben platt in this movie looks like john noble, especially in for forever when he's crying and its so, so funny to me
if i hadn’t been a musical theater person before i watched dear evan hansen, i honestly would have thought jared is a closeted gay guy.
Well this certainly wasn't how I wanted to find out that me and Dear Evan Hansen take the same anxiety medication
When I saw the movie I cheered at the mention of Zoloft
“We all know the internet is…”
Me: for porn?
“For forever.”
Me: that works too
i really wish the movie had included the cut song "in the bedroom down the hall". it would've really made it all the more tragic, it would've made his mother specifically more fleshed out. i wanted them to explore more of how connor's family felt and i feel like that song does an amazing job.
Your little bit about Wicked and the indie cover of Popular absolutely killed me 😂
I'm like 2 min into the video so I'll probably edit this with more comments lol, but my first thought re: the Tonys (Tonies?) DEH won: in WHAT WORLD did it deserve Best Score over Great Comet. DEH has such a generic sound, Great Comet is like one of the most unique musicals I know, Great Comet deserved everything DEH got
Fr fr
You're my favorite person for this comment ily I love great comet
I will forever stay mad that great comet’s score didn’t win, that soundtrack is incredible
they changed the pronunciation of appalachia because the way he says it in the cast recording is wrong. it's pronounced with the "ah" vowel because if you say "appa-lay-cha" i'll throw an "apple-atch-a"
ngl, I was expecting a slow pop style rendition of a song from a Broadway musical to close out the video
there is something about the cadence of your voice that makes everything funny and im enjoying it thanks
Wait, they're splitting Wicked into two parts? Why? How?? WHY? It fits into the time limit of a normal musical, what are they going to add besides the requisite Oscar bait original song written for the movie?
I know this is late but from my understanding they’re adding more stuff from the book Wicked’s based on. Still kind of confusing why they chose to do it that way, but at least it offers some explanation.
@@sneepsnoop8639 oh no honestly that might scare me more!! The book is DARK
@olivia buller yes definitely!!! I only remember bits and pieces and I don’t think I finished it because I was like, this isn’t the musical?!?
That book has some WEEEEEEIIRD ass shit in it. Like I really don't think Gregory Maguire is a healthy guy. At all.
They’re just trying to draw it out to make more money. Just like how they made part twos all the time back in the day. For an example, Harry Potter and Twilight.
The change of the pronunciation of Appalachian trail makes it’s so it’s pronounced the correct way btw :)
as a depressed teenager, i absolutely loved dear evan hansen and really related to evan (i know) but as a depressed adult who realizes he's kind of a sociopath i like people roasting DEH a lot more lol
I listened to this musical for years without looking up a plot synopsis or anything besides the szin Sincerely Me animatic. Imagine my surprise when I read the book and realized I'd Been Conned
I can deal with the musical, because it shows how what Evan did was messed up. BUT the movie just ignores that.
I think the true reason why this musical doesn’t really say much about mental health is that it wasn’t. Many songs were cut or adjusted after the musical started getting lauded for it’s “discussion” of mental health, one song in particular is A Part of Me, which eerily sounds a lot like You will be found, however it’s about the how trendy jumping on the bandwagon during tragedy is.
One of the main writers based this on his own perception of tragedy where people did this exact thing. They originally were going for the darker tone, but after all their acclaim, they decided to change their brand to that of spreading a positive message for mental health, by not really saying much.
I feel like the biggest reason the musical got as popular as it did was cause the songs were good and something others could relate to - yet if you were to watch in the context of the musical and film, they either make the scene worse, the meaning behind the song muddled, or just stop the story altogether just so that the actor/actress can have a ballad.
well its aldo cause the broadway version is legit funny to watch. For example, the scene where evan is writing a letter to himself, its played off more funny while the movie version takes it more serious and thus you just feel bad for evan.
Yep.
dear even hansen haunted me through my middle school years
When I saw that Ben platt was playing high schooler, I was out. Read the Wikipedia summary instead. Loved the video!
sincerely me is my favorite of the songs, im glad to hear it was at least a fun part of the movie lol
Dude Alana's palyed by Amandla Stenberg who played Rue! That's so cool!
DEH is a good musical. Of course, it is not without it flaws and weird inconsistencies. But the things it brought to light and could teach others is wonderful.
It makes you sympathetic for many of the characters in different ways. Even Evan sometimes. It makes you cry. It makes you realize that not everything is always about you. How easily people can lie about such sensitive topics to do with mental health. How waiting to do something might just make things worse. Admit what you did even it’s hard. Being aware of the people around you. Just doing the right thing. Lying is never the answer, even if it makes people feel better, it’s not worth it. The truth may hurt but it’s the truth. It shows the repercussions Evan has to face in the end and learns from the harm and terrible things he’s done to the people in his life. The people who he cares about. It doesn’t make him feel good to lie, it doesn’t make anything better. It makes things worse. He doesn’t get a happy ending, he gets called out and that is what he deserves.
But there’s still jokes, and it doesn’t take itself completely seriously all the time. Sincerely, me, is a great example! Even in such a fucked up situation like Evan making up fake emails about connor and himself communicating.
The movie doesn’t get a lot of these points. It’s tone is very off. Sincerely, me feels out of place without some of the more lightheartedness of the original play, it takes itself very seriously. It takes out songs that show how much a dickbag evan had been. And while deh is quite good, there are also better lesser known musicals that deserve more recognition and could’ve actually been done more justice in theater. Dear Evan Hansen, like you said… is definitely of it time. Let it die!!!
Dear Evan Hansen, please no.
Off-topic/On-topic, it said a lot to me that during a press tour for The Politician, Ben Platt forgot he worked with Laura Dreyfuss before the show for many many months on Dear Evan Hansen and when she brought up that they had worked together prior, he was so blase about it but you could tell it genuinely hurt her feelings.
Ahh been so excited for this, glad it's finally out! While I enjoyed the stage show I was always surprised DEH swept the Tonys that year given I much preferred both Come From Away and Great Comet, so it has been a bit of schadenfreude to see the movie get revenge for me. Love when you talk about musicals!! That "Popular" cover bit had me absolutely cracking up
I've been waiting for this one to drop since you mentioned it a month ago! Dear Evan Hansen has been a big part of my life; I literally got a quote from the show as my first tattoo. However. I absolutely agree with the notion that the movie especially missed the mark.
Although I will always love the cast album, I had my issues with the live show, and REALLY had issues with the movie.
(This is absolutely copium, so take it as you will) the way I've come to see the live show is as almost a critique of how mental health is discussed and the tendency of the internet to care about causes only as long as they're relevant in pop culture. When I watch 'you will be found,' I pay attention to the fact that (at the shows I saw) the actor playing Evan seems like he's getting more overwhelmed as the clip of his speech goes viral. In my mind, the show is (maybe, this is a stretch to say the least) commenting on the way that other people are taking advantage of the moment to push for their own causes. in the live show, this is further supported by Jared and Allanah's push to get the Connor project through-in the original script, we learn that Allanah is motivated by a desire to pad her resume and get into a good college, and Jared wants to sell pins to make money off of the whole endeavor. As such, I am able to view the whole storyline as more of a tragedy, where although I might not identify with the choices Evan makes, I can appreciate the gravity and sadness of the whole situation.
This is where the movie lost me, tbh. By trying to make every character sympathetic to Evan, I have a harder time getting through the film without getting mad at Evan. I also feel like this choice sort of ruins my mental image of Connor as a character; this idea that everyone in the school who saw him as an outcast and a weirdo would suddenly switch to genuinely championing causes on his behalf just seems too good to be true, and I feel that it comes off as more on-the-nose 'If you have a friend, you can cure your mental illness' than a deeper criticism of that line of thinking.
Definitely just my take on this, but at least for me, that was the thing that made me dislike the film despite being a fan of the album, and in part, the live show 🙃
I will say, this musical does hold a massive place in my heart, even though I really hate certain parts of the plot. I line up with the information way too much for comfort. As someone named Evan who has autism, severe social anxiety, and many other things (friends names and other information I wish not to say), this show really fucked me up. I have a horrible issue with saying no. Now I wouldn’t be caught in a lie this massive, but I did feel very seen when the musical first came out.
12:48 I believe the song in the movie's soundtrack album is the correct pronunciation of Appalachian, actually.
STOP YOUR COMMENTARY OVER THE LAST SCENE WAS SO FUNNY 😭
What I don’t get was that it worked so well as a play but the tone in the movie was just all wrong. And absolutely hate that they cut the moms from the first song. A travesty. And they also cut my favourite song that Evan’s mom sings. I was so mad
2 things
1. Elana is the most insufferable character in the story, yes I'm including Evan
2. Something the film makers either didn't realize or didn't care to realize (nepotism ftw)is that the reason Ben Platt can play Conner on stage and be just fine is because the audience can't see him well meaning no one's going to notice/care that Ben is much older than a teenager and speaking with your hands is necessary. That doesn't translate to film because the camera is right in Ben's face and you can see the jarring difference between him and the rest of the cast.
there are SO many things i would do for kaitlyn dever, so many. but watching dear evan hansen? its just not realistic babes
Absolutely top tier content, glad it's out of copyright hell, 11/10
this was hilarious, subscribed
What I really wish is that Zoe was somebody he had a small crush on only in the beginning, but then instead of Connor ending his life ( at least not as quickly as he did in the story ), Evan apologizes about the letter, and they find a way to clear stuff up. Then, they grow a friendship and bond together.
You could have Zoe be the catalyst for their growing relationship, but I think at the end of the day it should have been about Evan and Connor growing together and learning from each other.
wait… why in the scene on the first day of school with jared asking evan about his crush on zoey… is the marching band playing a cover of “good for you”… the song taking evan to task and that was for some unknowable reason, cut from the film?
TL;DR there is a book series that does the exact shit you wanted but didn’t get from DEH, and it’s Ellen Hopkins’ Crank series. There are ten of them, they’re all poetry with poems that need to be read multiple ways, there’s really good representation of queer youth, abuse, and trauma.
Gold spraypainted trash idea, if you read DEH like a psychological horror story, it accomplishes what 13 Reasons Why utterly bastardized and failed to.
After Connor died another kid _stole his life._ And excused it with being suicidal.
His family preferred the version of himself Evan presented. If they were ever abusive it’s treated as impossible by Evan and frivolous by the narrative, but they’re an upper class white nuclear family trope, and the ways they all talk about their interactions with each other is like, if you want to put that into a story there is decent room for concern. And in FICTION you can really explore the angles of how something strange and horrible plays out.
Connor’s parents excuse his behavior, Zoe counters that he threatened her life and implies they didn’t take care of either of them in that situation.
They’ll say he was struggling but there’s no real emphasis on him being in therapy, getting diagnosed, trying regimes of meds and them not working, having trouble finding specialists, being in and out of psych wards, Connor doesn’t have a relationship with the police (who are the ones who show up to take you to a psych ward if your parents make that call btw) nor do his family, like... they have the financial and social resources to be doing whatever number of legit and illegitimate things to get Connor help, so are they like, not doing that? That’s weird right. Why would they not get him help? Why isn’t Zoe in therapy, and it isn’t even on her radar?
Connor’s parents are Evan’s idealized parents but they’re like, kind of a Stepford cookie cutter Man Father and Wife Woman.
Also you do not have a healthy relationship with your child if you have to learn about them through a friend of theirs that only shows up in your life after they’ve died. That is really weird. That is really really weird. Tbh it’s baffling that they didn’t have Evan and Connor have some sort of deep relationship that would require secrecy even if it’s like. Yeah we dealt drugs together or we like buried a body. And they could have been gay, but not into each other, or just like. The furious romanticism of teenagers portrayed realistically but appropriately and they just happen to be two boys. I’m not against that, it would make a Lot Of Sense for Connor to hide a boyfriend or a friend he had a crush on from his family when his family’s Like That.
can we please have a full version of knock off popular?
what they couldve done is gotten jordan fisher to play evan hansen and have ben plat play maybe as the father of connor or make a sort of cameo in some way...idk just makes sense to me
Years late to the party but hearing Dear Evan Hansen and the 'my sister's hot' line out of context was a wild ride
Between "Dear Evan Hansen" and "Rent," Stephen Chbosky needs to stay away from musicals.
[Okay, technically Chbosky only wrote the script for the "Rent" movie, but it still counts to me.]
If Ben Platt’s wig isn’t what it was maybe, maybe, it would’ve been good
ITS A WIG?!
This was very funny. Thank you, Harry 🫰🏼
I’m bitter that Dear Evan Hansen isn’t about a boy like Connor becoming friends with Evan
Is your background art Hatoful Boyfriend
Hi I’m a year late to this video but I want to rant.
I think the issue with Evan’s character (excluding the melting) is that he doesn’t show any major symptoms of mental illness, he’s scared to talk to the girl he likes and delivering a speech full of lies to a large crowd and he tried to khs offscreen but that’s it really. We don’t get the vibe that this is a sick child you get the vibe that this is a child pretending to be sick. I think no one finding Evan after he jumped out of the tree should have impacted him more. Have him be more clingy and unstable. We hear that he’s mentally ill offscreen but we don’t really see it. The idea that you could die and no one could notice could really screw with your psyche and I think they ignored that.
Starkid did such a funny version of the pop song credits thing in Twisted
Heck yeah I’ve been waiting for this one 🫡
On a barely related note: sincerely thank you so much because i have been trying to think of a Brennan lee mulligan character for a few days and when you said 'unlikely animal friends' it triggered something and i instantly remembered.
More related: I loved this video and it's so cool that you and jenny notice different things so both videos are fun to watch. ❤
Just discovered your channel today & I'm binging your videos & I just want to say you're doing a great job!! 💕
13:11 I am conflicted that they changed the pronunciation of Appalachian. Because the new recording is the correct way to say it (as someone from the Tennessee part of it), but I don't know why no one caught Ben mispronouncing it in the movie. I also know that the wrong pronunciation is the more popular one, and someone who just lives near the mountains would say it like that.
Alanna’s song was great and honestly AMANDLA gave her whole for it
I prefer the movie version of “Sincerely Me” to the stage version. I love both, but the one I play more is the movie version. Evan and Connor cutting off Jared as he sings “But not because they’re gay, no not because…” is perfectly timed and really funny!
Also, you had a missed opportunity when you said the movie’s setting should have been around the start of the “it gets better” movement…. “But not because they’re gay!”
Damn I wish this film had been cast right with a young Evan Hansen that matched the dramedy tone of the musical...
It's so disppointing😭
i always appreciate your takes harry:) ty for this
I always felt like the musical would have been better as a black comedy with the whole thing having the vibe of "Sincerely Me". The way it is now, "Sincerely Me" feels incredibly out of place, even though it's my favorite part of the whole musical. It also needed a less "feel good ending" in my opinion, which would have worked in the comedy genre without making it too depressing
the broadway version is actually a black comedy. For some reason the movie version just wanted to be more serious which made the movie just not fun to watch and you just dont want to sing the music as for the broadway version, you legit want to sing to the songs.
5:36 Why is the marching band playing Good For You
I used to really like Ben Platts music but after this movie it just hasn’t been the same.
I loved this musical on Broadway, Platt was incredible in it like I’d nothing I’d ever seen in live theater, the music was fresh and the story reminded me of World’s Greatest Dad. What the movie effed up is that type of story is a dark comedy! There’s so many absurdist things in a story like that, but instead the movie went for Oscar bait? Completely missed the mark in tone for this type of subject matter which *can* work
When they talked about his crush i never noticed the band playing Good for you lol
Appalachian is actually pronounced (apple-AY-chin) and not (apple-AH-chin) so he only pronounced it correctly in the movie album but not the movie itself, which is a weird choice
My Appalachian friends insist on “Apple atcha” like “I’ll throw an apple atcha!”
So I assume he got sick of hearing about how he mispronounced it on the album and corrected it for the movie
@@aytchjay-vvv Yeah my best friend from Arkansas insists on the short a version as well. I honestly think it’s good they corrected it but it was weird that they went back to the wrong pronunciation for the actual film 🤷🏻♀️
9:52 ooh, new dopamine hack!! Gotta go buy stamps…
It’s funny, I hate the story of DEH, it’s questionable at best, but tbh the music slaps so I just listen to the bops and ignore there’s anything behind it
this is such a good video🎃
IT'S FINALLY HERE
i think if the characters were all younger high schoolers instead of seniors it would be so much less creepy. i could believe a 15 year old letting this snowball out of his control more than an 18 year old. could be just me tho.
honestly it really sucks bc the other actors are super talented! this could've been something really special, and i see such potential kinda wasted
ben looks like a wax figure
After seeing No Hard Feelings, I am mourning the loss of what could have been with Andrew Barth Feldman
Also Colton Ryan is SO good on film. Damn.
Am I the only one who thought the msuical was about Even being Autistic ? Not Social .... I ... I thought it was me rep
Evan looks like Corey Matthews in the movie, and also - my God, DEH came out when I was an adult and so it just felt kind of insulting, really.
Also, man, wealth value has changed in 20 years, huh. Zoë and her family look like underdressed middle class people instead of, I dunno, clinging remnants of the Regina Georgian/Clueless-era wealth that I’d expected when I read the Wikipedia page and heard she was rich. It’s hilarious.