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What about the other verses where he says that I don't know when the time will come, only the father knows? And what about the verse where he says The Father is greater than I? And what about the verse where he mistakes a tree to have fruit , but then the tree doesn't have any fruit? Isn't God all-knowing?
@@SajidAhmed_619 And what about surah 33: 36 where you have a co-equal partner like It does not behove a believer, male or female, that when Allah AND His Messenger have decided an affair they should exercise their choice. And whoever disobeys Allah AND His Messenger has strayed to manifest error. Seems to me that you think Mohammad AND Allah are equal...
There are many aspects of Jesus' teachings that muslims can not understand in a trillion years. Since you have no understanding of God, it will be difficult to crab the insight. It is like a support worker thinking because he is in a hospital environment, that means he or she knows everything a surgeon does. That's the issue with islam. Muslims have no place in allah. The opposite is what Jesus teaches. He showed you who you are and your part in the whole, which is God. The problem is they reject the testimony of the one who came from God quran 19.17 but accept the testimony of the person who knows nothing about God, quran 46.9. From that standpoint, muslims think whenever the word God is involved, means the knowledge is the same, forgetting a slave has limited knowledge about his owner but yet keep comparing itself with the children forgetting their place as a slave.
I see the Christian guy with cap on head having beard is debating for the last so many years but unfortunately he is not ready to get out of the Trinity.
It's a false anology. We never state that specificity of the language but the concept, explicit sayings and implications shows that prophet 'isa Al-Masih ibnu Maryam A'laihissalam is a prophet and he explicitly deny teaching people to worship him and his mother. Nicene creed however, specifically mentioning co-equality, of which there's none, nor the concept of it from the bible nor from the first 3 centuries church fathers. When they use specificity, they should answer the specificity, not using the "exact words fallacy" which doesn't exist except by the usage of christian apologists, as a card to evade the questions. They're truly clueless of how to prove their trinity.
There is nothing to prove brother, you have to be clear and specific if you believe that your religion is the true one. Because your religion is not man-made, it should absolutely be specific and perfect without and flaws or contradictions.
It’s actually sad that these Christians don’t bother to read the Quran as the Muslims actually do read the bible to understand. Jesus in Quran says “indeed I am A SERVANT OF ALLAH” He said worship Him alone 😂 Then if they ask where does Allah say He is god or a Worship Him or that He is one All over Quran but my favourite is in Surah Taha “Indeed I AM Allah there is no diety/god except Me. So worship Me and establish the prayer for My remembrance” Quran in several verses refer to Himself as being: immortal, no sleep no slumber can take over Him, sees all, knows all, capable of doing all things that befit His majesty, nothing created is comparable to Him, the One who shapes, the one that gives life, the one that will judge, the most Just and fair and so so much more that it would be a long list here. Does Jesus of bible say any of this explicitly? The attributes that are given to the divine alone; does Jesus of bible possess them?
Ask him this way You have a father right? Then if you represent your father in certain meeting while the father couldn't come. What would you say to the board meeting? You'll say I and the father are one. Meaning you represent your Father place, what you say has been told and Authorize by your father. So you'd say I have brought all thr message which my father told to me. Question here is , Is the Son equally the creator like the Father ??
The reason y'all need specificity regarding the coequal attribute is because there are verses in the bible that would directly oppose that (eg. My father is greater than I, my Father is greater than all, I by myself can do nothing.)
This is a fundamental point. Absolutely fundamental point. And all the evidence in the Bible points us to Tauheed "oneness of God" and against the concept of the trinity. Jesus pbuh taught God is one.
Muslim idea of GOD: there's only one GOD almighty and his last prophet.. Christian idea of GOD: he came down to earth humbled himself , make himself a prophet, worship himself, killed himself to appease himself.
And what about surah 33: 36 where you have a co-equal partner like It does not behove a believer, male or female, that when Allah AND His Messenger have decided an affair they should exercise their choice. And whoever disobeys Allah AND His Messenger has strayed to manifest error. Seems to me that you think Mohammad AND Allah are equal..
why he so loud. pls calm down brother "Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.” . Quran (19:46)
Adnan is not being fair to the gentleman in glasses, he's right, Adnan doesn't have to repeat the question so many times even tho i know he did that because he doesn't want the christian to beat around the bush or answer things that he didn't asked.. but to be fair, he was talking to the gentleman first, why suddenly move to paper boy..in Islam, in any other way we still need to be fair even when talking to these people, but should not tolerate anything that against the quran, i know that..but it shows that mannerism that Islam teaches..the adab..that's to me is how the approach should be..hope he will improve, and this looks like an old video..this could be the 'old is gold' version..may Allah bless br Adnan..Allahuakbar!
There is not a single unequited statement where Jesus pbuh by himself say"i'm God worship me"nowhere in the Bible and there is nowhere Trinity in the Bible.
I don’t believe the triune God can be co equal because that would result in three Gods because “God” is a title having Jesus be co equal with the Father and Holy Spirit would result in three Gods. Am I right or wrong if so could you print out my error? I guess this is why when a Christian states that there is only one God it’s literal not three separate Gods.
John 14::28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." Greater than is not co equal. BOOM! HADOUKEN!
Jesus is talking of him following the father as he is predicting his death in verse 29. In verse 26, it talks of the Holy Spirit. So the Trinity is seen in verses 26-29 and Jesus shows how each is linked. Can you not see how in just 3 verses the Trinity is seen?
@@joyphillips1821 no, because following is not side by side. It shows a hierarchy. He also calls the FATHER his GOD, actually the "ONLY TRUE GOD" (John 17:3, 20:17). It doesn't matter what verses you bring. The words of the Messiah (who's name wasn't Jesus by the way) are clearly contradictory to the Trinity doctrine.
@@muhajir8469 What do you know of the Trinity doctrine? Your only sources are from Jews and Christians. You think Jesus didn't ask God to GLORIFY HIM in John 17: 2? I think you love to skip around but fail to read everything in the context it was written... Tell me, why do you think Jesus would ask God the FATHER to Glorify him? Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. ( Psalm 2: 12)
@@joyphillips1821 if the Messiah had to ask for anything or be "given" it, then he isn't GOD. It just gets worse every time y'all try to explain it. Nobody's skipping anything. John 17:3=kryptonite to the Trinity.
Just watch until the end. He not even proof his claim. Thats why Adnan keep him in check, to not let him divert to another issue. End up, he not even giving the proof from the church father
Did not have to"They" knew! (Genesis1) God is a creator who says "be" a spirit that makes It so, with an image of their own? God said " let's make man in our image".
Do anybody know who the anonymous authors are of the Bible? I hope you do, because if you dont, than you have a big problem. If you do know who the authors are, why than talking about anonymous authors? If you dont know the anonymous authors, than please how is it possible to rely your believe and salvation on a book you dont know who wrote it.
I hope you can tell me who the 70 men were who wrote the Quran because otherwise you have a problem... Not only are they anonymous but they made a big mistake when they wrote surah 33: 36 where it suddenly became Allah AND his messenger.... Wasn't Allah good enough alone?
@@joyphillips1821 you guys really surprise me always how stupid you are, please dont feel offended, but it is really amazing to see how weird way of thinking you have. You see, God ( Allah ) used his messengers like Moses, Noah, David, Jesus Mohammed and many other prophets ( peace be up on them all ) to deliver his message to the people of their time. So, they did it together, God gave them the information the revelation and they had the duty to deliver it to the people, so they were one in purpose, understand? God ( Allah ) gave us information through them, so he did it not alone, but together with his messengers.And the 70 people who wrote the Quran, were people who wrote the recitation by prophet Mohammed ( pbuh ) of the revelation he got from angel Gabriel who was ordered by God ( Allah ). They were not only writing down the recitation of prophet Mohammed,( pbuh ) they also learned it by heart. Prophet Mohammed ( pbuh ) could not read or write he was unlettered, so it was not possible to write it down by himself, the message of God ( Allah ) came by recitation of Mohammed ( pbuh ) and needed to written down to save the message. I hope I answered your question. Before you reject my explanation, please read the Quran in your native language, after reading, if you are still not convinced, you always have the possibility to reject anyway.
How very irritating to have Adnan rashid constantly, loudly shouting and refusing o allow anyone else to speak. I listened for 10 minutes and no one else had a chance to speak, let lone answer his first question.
HATUN CRYING BABY IN THE MIX EACH ONE COMES WITH SAME 3 IN ONE SAME QUESTION ONLY ONE ALLAH SWT NOT 3 IN ONE SUBHAN ALLAH ALLAHU AKBAR ALHAMDULLILAH ALHAMDULLILAH AMEEN
I and the father are one this verse suppose to be binarian no way under any normal circumtances trinitarian would use this verse to justify their doctrine for the reason that holy spirit is not part of this verse making binarian instead, of trinitarian....This would create an imbalance among the 3 and co-equality was broken as the result of the father never pray to son, only the son pray to the father, and holy spirit never pray to either the father and son as God, imbalance existed from the very start of this man made created doctrine of trinity...
@@joyphillips1821 which no one has a problem with. What's your point? If god glorifies you does that make you God? Use your brain please. Stop ignoring Jesus and blaspheming
Allah Akbar , Christian wannabes pls check your knowledge and information with the 2 believers of the x , now is a best time for them to repent and start praying to the god of Moses and Jesus and accept the last prophet Mohammed (pbuh)
@@q8nistel Thomas called him God and Lord and jesus blessed him for it. Also the disciples worship Jesus. But you never study bible so how can you know?
@@MoorfHiden-wq2ou I did read the Bible and in there Jesus prays to God. So unless Jesus is praying to himself, he couldn't be God, now could he? Everyone worshipped Jesus when he himself never claimed to be God. 😂
1+1+1=1 Concept God is Spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus is Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18). Jesus Christ said “God is in me and I am in God” (John10:38) and “God and I are one” in heaven (John10:30). So both Spirits existed as one divine Spirit One God in heaven, who was eternal and an invisible. The Holy Spirit (Helper), who is also a “SPIRIT” (John 15:26), was with God. And there are many Angles, who are Spirits, in heaven to serve God (Hebrews 1:14). [Note: In heaven God(Spirit) and divine SPIRITS can only exist] “Satan or devil” is a fallen angel “Evil Spirit” existing in Earth and Hell / Sheol / Abyss] [*FAQ(6): Whether Christians are worshipping three physical Gods (God, Jesus and Holy Spirit), if so, how can 1+1+1=1?. How did physical concept of Trinity come to the world, instead of true Biblical Trinity? When the Roman Emperor Constantine I became Christian in AD 312, he brought in the church, statue of Jesus and others to represent Spiritual God, aimed to satisfy his people, who were originally pagan worshippers. In line with the above physical concept of God he developed Trinity (God, Jesus and Holy Spirit), ie. three persons in one Godhead in AD 325 at Nicaea (Iznik, Turkey).This physical concept is being criticized by unbelievers who don’t know that God is Spirit , who can merge with other spirit and becomes one Spirit (Romans 8:16 , John (10:38), ie“God is in me and I am in God “in heaven] .
I presume that you are an evangelical christian and you believe in the doctrine of the trinity and vicarious atonement but not doing good works then you also believe as long as a man who rapes and murders your daughter and then repents and later on sin the same sin or a man rapes and murders your sister and then repents and later on sin the same sin or a man rape and murders your mother and then repents and later on sin the same sin or rapes and murders your wife and then repents and later on sin the same sin and evangelical christian still believes in the doctrine of the trinity and also believes that Jesus Christ died on the cross for his sins that he will be forgiven and will go to heaven and despite continuing to rape and murder innocent people but will still go to heaven as he still believe in the doctrine of the trinity and also as long as he still believes that Jesus died on the cross because you believe that this man is your evangelical christian brethren who you will embrace him but you also believe that good works are just like dirty rags according to your apostle Paul as your apostle Paul also said that faith alone believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins they you are forgiven and will go to heaven is your only salvation. According to christian evangelical theology, good works are the consequence of salvation and not its justification. They are the sign of a sincere and grateful faith. They include actions for the Great Commission, that is, Christian evangelism, service in the Church and charity. So Good works is a consequence but not a necessity for christian evangelical salvation. That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. ~Romans 10:9-10 You cannot be saved by your good works, because no matter how hard you try, your “good” is not good enough for the perfectly holy and completely righteous God who alone grants salvation. Nor can you be saved by your moral perfection-no matter how moral or how perfect you are. As the Old Testament prophet Isaiah points out, your righteousness is about as good as a “snot rag”. (Isaiah 64:6 ). I have actually cleaned that up a bit, because the Hebrew phrase for filthy rags, ukabeged ehdim, literally means, “like as rags of menstruation.” Sorry if that disgusts you, but it’s Scripture-so blame Isaiah. The point is, both our acts of righteousness, and the quality of righteousness that we hope they produce, are disgusting to God. So if you are disgusted by Isaiah’s language, think of how God, who inspired Isaiah to choose those coarse words, is repulsed by our efforts to get him to save us. So what hope, then, is there for our salvation? Well, frankly, no hope resides within us. None whatsoever. Ephesians 2:1 says “As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins.” That’s how hopeless we are apart from God’s work to save us. You see, all a dead person can do is lay there and be dead, let alone try to be righteous before God.
Start at the book of Genesis... Where did the Spirit of God come from in Genesis 1: 2? What about when Abraham was talking with Jesus ( he called him Lord) and the two angels and then while still talking with Abraham about how many godly people needed to be in the city of Sodom and Gommorah for it to be saved? Genesis ( 18: 23-32) and then again in Genesis 19: 24 when the Lord on earth called on the Lord in Heaven for punishment on Sodom and Gommorah.
@@joyphillips1821it say spirit of God. It does not say the Holy Spirit. Even Jesus has spirit too, and we human have spirit too. So did we are the same level with God?? Oh man
@@joyphillips1821 God pours down his spirit down to the earth is seen in Genesis 6:3, Ezekiel 36:27 Isaiah 44:3 and Isaiah 11:2 etc. God pours down Holy Spirit down to the earth is seen in Psalms 51:11-12. All these scriptures indicate that God is Spirit. We cannot fully depend Genesis as it has some contradiction in the theory of evolution. Since Christians are in the new covenant time, we need to focus on New Testament only, wherein it mentioned that God is Spirit (John4:24). The truth is that God in heaven pours down on earth His own Spirit, Jesus’ Spirit and Holy Spirit, which is Biblical Trinity.
"OH CHRISTIANS CAN YOU NOT SEE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS. LISTEN TO US WE ARE TRYING TO GUIDE YOU TO THE TRUTH. FOR THOSE WHO DOES SO RIGHTOUSLY & FOLLOW ALLAH & HIS LAST PROPHET (PBUH) WILL BE GIVEN PARADISE" ~Muqtadir Ali (Me) 🙂
I struggled to understand many dawah gangdist. The Bible is a spiritual book, meaning it's a lifetime discovery, not something that's stock in time like the quran. Also, without understanding the mystery of trinity, your knowledge of God remains what someone else said. Trinity is not even something the mind of muslims can ever understand because it was never part of the Islamic teachings since allah has no place in his slave's. For the sake of arguments, muslims can use it to bamboozled their gullible audience, but that actually change nothing. The bible can not be approached from the perspective of what's known years back. Even the Bible makes his students know that we all know in part. Unlike the muslim that the understanding of God is based on some recycled ideology, people who read a book about god from people who knows nothing about God, quran 46.9 and from that myopic standpoint they discuss what they know absolutely nothing about.
@@tylerthebeliever9080My concern is not based on assumption. A pagan believe in what is presented to him or her it doesn't make the individual right or wrong. It's never in claiming, anyone can do that. Proving your point is another thing. For me that's what impresses me about the bible. It's apply to the rule of law and the moment you understand that the principle it opens the derivation flood gate.
@@Trothoflife You might misunderstood my point. To claim one is a spiritual book with a lifetime discovery and a theology that appeal to mystery doesn't make it true or anymore true. If that's the case then how should we determine which is true?
@tylerthebeliever9080 Have you read both books. The quran and the bible because if you have both answered your question. As human beings, all we are exposed to is a mere principle and laws. Just like in math and science. The difference between a scientist and non is what both sides know in the field of science. Both can boil an egg but one understand how it goes from liquid to solid. It is an open field for all but the different is in the end result. Same in the spiritual aspect, the concept and understanding is what diffriietiate one from the other. One presented an assumption to fact, which allowed everyone to come to individual conclusion, what that does is to leave a massive door for manipulation and the other presented it in whole living it for individual to explore.
@@Trothoflife Yes I objectively had read both (so as others), what's the point here? If a Muslim claimed he's spiritually awaken or gave stories about the spiritual experience they had after reading the quran, does it make it true and the bible or other scriptures false? If no then truth would be subjective which in that case you can't say yours are right or others are wrong (us Muslims can)
Muslim idea of GOD: there's only one GOD almighty and his last prophet.. Christian idea of GOD: he came down to earth humbled himself , make himself a prophet, worship himself, killed himself to appease himself.
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Good to see brother Muhammad in the background listening patience and attentively.😊
Talking to a Xtian is like talking to a brick wall.
"I and the father are one" but he fails to keep reading where he says the disciples and him are one so by their logic they're equal with Jesus. Smh
What about the other verses where he says that I don't know when the time will come, only the father knows? And what about the verse where he says The Father is greater than I? And what about the verse where he mistakes a tree to have fruit , but then the tree doesn't have any fruit? Isn't God all-knowing?
@@SajidAhmed_619 Yup. And we could go on and on. Lol
@@SajidAhmed_619 And what about surah 33: 36 where you have a co-equal partner like It does not behove a believer, male or female, that when Allah AND His Messenger have decided an affair they should exercise their choice. And whoever disobeys Allah AND His Messenger has strayed to manifest error.
Seems to me that you think Mohammad AND Allah are equal...
No @joyphillips1821 - your comment is a demonstration of how the Christians impose the trinity on the bible
There are many aspects of Jesus' teachings that muslims can not understand in a trillion years.
Since you have no understanding of God, it will be difficult to crab the insight.
It is like a support worker thinking because he is in a hospital environment, that means he or she knows everything a surgeon does. That's the issue with islam. Muslims have no place in allah. The opposite is what Jesus teaches.
He showed you who you are and your part in the whole, which is God.
The problem is they reject the testimony of the one who came from God quran 19.17 but accept the testimony of the person who knows nothing about God, quran 46.9.
From that standpoint, muslims think whenever the word God is involved, means the knowledge is the same, forgetting a slave has limited knowledge about his owner but yet keep comparing itself with the children forgetting their place as a slave.
I see the Christian guy with cap on head having beard is debating for the last so many years but unfortunately he is not ready to get out of the Trinity.
He’s lost in the Bermuda Triangle 😯
His name in : shit paper Boy
The moment I heard hatun, I wanted to throw my phone away and stamp on it to make it stop. 😒
It's a false anology. We never state that specificity of the language but the concept, explicit sayings and implications shows that prophet 'isa Al-Masih ibnu Maryam A'laihissalam is a prophet and he explicitly deny teaching people to worship him and his mother.
Nicene creed however, specifically mentioning co-equality, of which there's none, nor the concept of it from the bible nor from the first 3 centuries church fathers.
When they use specificity, they should answer the specificity, not using the "exact words fallacy" which doesn't exist except by the usage of christian apologists, as a card to evade the questions.
They're truly clueless of how to prove their trinity.
There is nothing to prove brother, you have to be clear and specific if you believe that your religion is the true one. Because your religion is not man-made, it should absolutely be specific and perfect without and flaws or contradictions.
@@MertYldz-yz4wn you're not contesting anything. Again, prove the trinity per the specificity.
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It’s actually sad that these Christians don’t bother to read the Quran as the Muslims actually do read the bible to understand.
Jesus in Quran says “indeed I am A SERVANT OF ALLAH”
He said worship Him alone 😂
Then if they ask where does Allah say He is god or a
Worship Him or that He is one
All over Quran but my favourite is in Surah Taha
“Indeed I AM Allah there is no
diety/god except Me. So worship Me and establish the prayer for My remembrance”
Quran in several verses refer to Himself as being: immortal, no sleep no slumber can take over Him, sees all, knows all, capable of doing all things that befit His majesty, nothing created is comparable to Him, the One who shapes, the one that gives life, the one that will judge, the most Just and fair and so so much more that it would be a long list here. Does Jesus of bible say any of this explicitly? The attributes that are given to the divine alone; does Jesus of bible possess them?
Ask him this way
You have a father right?
Then if you represent your father in certain meeting while the father couldn't come.
What would you say to the board meeting?
You'll say I and the father are one.
Meaning you represent your Father place, what you say has been told and Authorize by your father.
So you'd say
I have brought all thr message which my father told to me.
Question here is ,
Is the Son equally the creator like the Father ??
Is that Muhammad Ali on the back?
Yeah thats him
I was thinking the Same 😅
The internet was the worst thing that could have possibly happened to Christian.
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Christianity did not destroy paganism, it adopted it
The reason y'all need specificity regarding the coequal attribute is because there are verses in the bible that would directly oppose that (eg. My father is greater than I, my Father is greater than all, I by myself can do nothing.)
This is a fundamental point. Absolutely fundamental point. And all the evidence in the Bible points us to Tauheed "oneness of God" and against the concept of the trinity. Jesus pbuh taught God is one.
Muslim idea of GOD: there's only one GOD almighty and his last prophet..
Christian idea of GOD: he came down to earth humbled himself , make himself a prophet, worship himself, killed himself to appease himself.
Like always....they fail to substantiate
And what about surah 33: 36 where you have a co-equal partner like It does not behove a believer, male or female, that when Allah AND His Messenger have decided an affair they should exercise their choice. And whoever disobeys Allah AND His Messenger has strayed to manifest error.
Seems to me that you think Mohammad AND Allah are equal..
the guy behind the preacher looked similar to muhammad ali from the muslim lantern. is it him?
Yes, it’s him alhamdulillah
Ignore all this toilet paper 😂they always round the bush,
Never a simple answer from christian pagans....
Title should have been Adnan vs SupaHotFire
The dude with the cap should’ve given it to the other guy 😂 spitting image
Wait there's more! 🤣😂🤣😂
They are not three different fathers three different sons three different spirits. The father is a spirit what is he saying 23:35
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why he so loud. pls calm down brother
"Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.” . Quran (19:46)
Adnan is not being fair to the gentleman in glasses, he's right, Adnan doesn't have to repeat the question so many times even tho i know he did that because he doesn't want the christian to beat around the bush or answer things that he didn't asked.. but to be fair, he was talking to the gentleman first, why suddenly move to paper boy..in Islam, in any other way we still need to be fair even when talking to these people, but should not tolerate anything that against the quran, i know that..but it shows that mannerism that Islam teaches..the adab..that's to me is how the approach should be..hope he will improve, and this looks like an old video..this could be the 'old is gold' version..may Allah bless br Adnan..Allahuakbar!
the christain has no answer to the question
The Bible is a Christians kryptonite
There is not a single unequited statement where Jesus pbuh by himself say"i'm God worship me"nowhere in the Bible and there is nowhere Trinity in the Bible.
This is an old video right? Because that dude is still using iPhone 6
I don’t believe the triune God can be co equal because that would result in three Gods because “God” is a title having Jesus be co equal with the Father and Holy Spirit would result in three Gods.
Am I right or wrong if so could you print out my error?
I guess this is why when a Christian states that there is only one God it’s literal not three separate Gods.
John 14::28
"Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."
Greater than is not co equal. BOOM! HADOUKEN!
Jesus is talking of him following the father as he is predicting his death in verse 29. In verse 26, it talks of the Holy Spirit. So the Trinity is seen in verses 26-29 and Jesus shows how each is linked. Can you not see how in just 3 verses the Trinity is seen?
@@joyphillips1821 no, because following is not side by side. It shows a hierarchy. He also calls the FATHER his GOD, actually the "ONLY TRUE GOD" (John 17:3, 20:17). It doesn't matter what verses you bring. The words of the Messiah (who's name wasn't Jesus by the way) are clearly contradictory to the Trinity doctrine.
@@muhajir8469 What do you know of the Trinity doctrine? Your only sources are from Jews and Christians. You think Jesus didn't ask God to GLORIFY HIM in John 17: 2? I think you love to skip around but fail to read everything in the context it was written... Tell me, why do you think Jesus would ask God the FATHER to Glorify him?
Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. ( Psalm 2: 12)
@@joyphillips1821 if the Messiah had to ask for anything or be "given" it, then he isn't GOD. It just gets worse every time y'all try to explain it. Nobody's skipping anything. John 17:3=kryptonite to the Trinity.
You wont let him speak. You ask the question you ignore him trying to explain. You ran away like a coward
Just watch until the end. He not even proof his claim. Thats why Adnan keep him in check, to not let him divert to another issue. End up, he not even giving the proof from the church father
i hear hatun's voice..
Just watched about two and half minutes and figured that the guy don't have the answer. Can't waste more time wathing him beating around the bush.
This man is not following is own rules of engagement 😅😅😅😅
Did not have to"They" knew! (Genesis1) God is a creator who says "be" a spirit that makes It so, with an image of their own? God said " let's make man in our image".
those 2 is the least peoples on Earth whom would engage in proper conversation .
waste of time
Do anybody know who the anonymous authors are of the Bible? I hope you do, because if you dont, than you have a big problem. If you do know who the authors are, why than talking about anonymous authors? If you dont know the anonymous authors, than please how is it possible to rely your believe and salvation on a book you dont know who wrote it.
I hope you can tell me who the 70 men were who wrote the Quran because otherwise you have a problem... Not only are they anonymous but they made a big mistake when they wrote surah 33: 36 where it suddenly became Allah AND his messenger.... Wasn't Allah good enough alone?
@@joyphillips1821 you guys really surprise me always how stupid you are, please dont feel offended, but it is really amazing to see how weird way of thinking you have. You see, God ( Allah ) used his messengers like Moses, Noah, David, Jesus Mohammed and many other prophets ( peace be up on them all ) to deliver his message to the people of their time. So, they did it together, God gave them the information the revelation and they had the duty to deliver it to the people, so they were one in purpose, understand? God ( Allah ) gave us information through them, so he did it not alone, but together with his messengers.And the 70 people who wrote the Quran, were people who wrote the recitation by prophet Mohammed ( pbuh ) of the revelation he got from angel Gabriel who was ordered by God ( Allah ). They were not only writing down the recitation of prophet Mohammed,( pbuh ) they also learned it by heart. Prophet Mohammed ( pbuh ) could not read or write he was unlettered, so it was not possible to write it down by himself, the message of God ( Allah ) came by recitation of Mohammed ( pbuh ) and needed to written down to save the message. I hope I answered your question. Before you reject my explanation, please read the Quran in your native language, after reading, if you are still not convinced, you always have the possibility to reject anyway.
How very irritating to have Adnan rashid constantly, loudly shouting and refusing o allow anyone else to speak. I listened for 10 minutes and no one else had a chance to speak, let lone answer his first question.
HATUN CRYING BABY IN THE MIX EACH ONE COMES WITH SAME 3 IN ONE SAME QUESTION ONLY ONE ALLAH SWT NOT 3 IN ONE SUBHAN ALLAH ALLAHU AKBAR ALHAMDULLILAH ALHAMDULLILAH AMEEN
How can they be co-equal when Jesus says in the bible that The Father is greater than him?
Supa hot fire got destroyed
I and the father are one this verse suppose to be binarian no way under any normal circumtances trinitarian would use this verse to justify their doctrine for the reason that holy spirit is not part of this verse making binarian instead, of trinitarian....This would create an imbalance among the 3 and co-equality was broken as the result of the father never pray to son, only the son pray to the father, and holy spirit never pray to either the father and son as God, imbalance existed from the very start of this man made created doctrine of trinity...
If jesus God and have mother is Maria…who Adam AS according christian people….??
Every knee shall confess that JESUS is Lord and SAVIOUR.....you Muslims will cry out "mountains fall on us, we are doomed!"
There is a Christian cameraman who is very rude and he likes tu make annoying noises😅.
Their own bible goes against them in John 17:3 where Jesus tells them THE ONLY TRUE GOD IS THE FATHER . You can't make this up.
And yet right BEFORE in verse 2, Jesus is asking the father to GLORIFY HIM😮.
@@joyphillips1821 which no one has a problem with. What's your point? If god glorifies you does that make you God? Use your brain please. Stop ignoring Jesus and blaspheming
Ignorant heresy lying twisting word are in his blood......!?!
"triune god", what a garbage belief.
Allah Akbar , Christian wannabes pls check your knowledge and information with the 2 believers of the x , now is a best time for them to repent and start praying to the god of Moses and Jesus and accept the last prophet Mohammed (pbuh)
It's not as funny as splitting the moon and the earth is flat like a bed and the sun sets in a dirty puddle ha ha ha😂😂😂
Jesus was Jesus is Jesus is coming to judge mankind and destroy Antichrist
Yes, he will judge those that equated him to God as erroneous.
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Thomas called him God and Lord and jesus blessed him for it. Also the disciples worship Jesus. But you never study bible so how can you know?
@@MoorfHiden-wq2oudidn’t they pray with Jesus? So they prayed with god to god? Something is fishy there mate🤔
@@MoorfHiden-wq2ou I did read the Bible and in there Jesus prays to God. So unless Jesus is praying to himself, he couldn't be God, now could he?
Everyone worshipped Jesus when he himself never claimed to be God. 😂
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Adnan bhai, you speak without thinking and shout a lot..be precise and sharp. Learn from Hashim.
It’s his passion coming out against these brainwashed buffoons
Watch Adnan more brother. He doesn’t shout like this.
Brother watch till the end
1+1+1=1 Concept
God is Spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus is Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18). Jesus Christ said “God is in me and I am in God” (John10:38) and “God and I are one” in heaven (John10:30). So both Spirits existed as one divine Spirit One God in heaven, who was eternal and an invisible.
The Holy Spirit (Helper), who is also a “SPIRIT” (John 15:26), was with God. And there are many Angles, who are Spirits, in heaven to serve God (Hebrews 1:14). [Note: In heaven God(Spirit) and divine SPIRITS can only exist]
“Satan or devil” is a fallen angel “Evil Spirit” existing in Earth and Hell / Sheol / Abyss]
[*FAQ(6): Whether Christians are worshipping three physical Gods (God, Jesus and Holy Spirit), if so, how can 1+1+1=1?. How did physical concept of Trinity come to the world, instead of true Biblical Trinity?
When the Roman Emperor Constantine I became Christian in AD 312, he brought in the church, statue of Jesus and others to represent Spiritual God, aimed to satisfy his people, who were originally pagan worshippers. In line with the above physical concept of God he developed Trinity (God, Jesus and Holy Spirit), ie. three persons in one Godhead in AD 325 at Nicaea (Iznik, Turkey).This physical concept is being criticized by unbelievers who don’t know that God is Spirit , who can merge with other spirit and becomes one Spirit (Romans 8:16 , John (10:38), ie“God is in me and I am in God “in heaven] .
I presume that you are an evangelical christian and you believe in the doctrine of the trinity and vicarious atonement but not doing good works then you also believe as long as a man who rapes and murders your daughter and then repents and later on sin the same sin or a man rapes and murders your sister and then repents and later on sin the same sin or a man rape and murders your mother and then repents and later on sin the same sin or rapes and murders your wife and then repents and later on sin the same sin and evangelical christian still believes in the doctrine of the trinity and also believes that Jesus Christ died on the cross for his sins that he will be forgiven and will go to heaven and despite continuing to rape and murder innocent people but will still go to heaven as he still believe in the doctrine of the trinity and also as long as he still believes that Jesus died on the cross because you believe that this man is your evangelical christian brethren who you will embrace him but you also believe that good works are just like dirty rags according to your apostle Paul as your apostle Paul also said that faith alone believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins they you are forgiven and will go to heaven is your only salvation.
According to christian evangelical theology, good works are the consequence of salvation and not its justification. They are the sign of a sincere and grateful faith. They include actions for the Great Commission, that is, Christian evangelism, service in the Church and charity. So Good works is a consequence but not a necessity for christian evangelical salvation. That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. ~Romans 10:9-10 You cannot be saved by your good works, because no matter how hard you try, your “good” is not good enough for the perfectly holy and completely righteous God who alone grants salvation. Nor can you be saved by your moral perfection-no matter how moral or how perfect you are. As the Old Testament prophet Isaiah points out, your righteousness is about as good as a “snot rag”. (Isaiah 64:6 ). I have actually cleaned that up a bit, because the Hebrew phrase for filthy rags, ukabeged ehdim, literally means, “like as rags of menstruation.”
Sorry if that disgusts you, but it’s Scripture-so blame Isaiah. The point is, both our acts of righteousness, and the quality of righteousness that we hope they produce, are disgusting to God. So if you are disgusted by Isaiah’s language, think of how God, who inspired Isaiah to choose those coarse words, is repulsed by our efforts to get him to save us. So what hope, then, is there for our salvation? Well, frankly, no hope resides within us. None whatsoever. Ephesians 2:1 says “As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins.” That’s how hopeless we are apart from God’s work to save us. You see, all a dead person can do is lay there and be dead, let alone try to be righteous before God.
Start at the book of Genesis... Where did the Spirit of God come from in Genesis 1: 2? What about when Abraham was talking with Jesus ( he called him Lord) and the two angels and then while still talking with Abraham about how many godly people needed to be in the city of Sodom and Gommorah for it to be saved? Genesis ( 18: 23-32) and then again in Genesis 19: 24 when the Lord on earth called on the Lord in Heaven for punishment on Sodom and Gommorah.
Lol, Muslims and their copy and paste. Trinity is in the Bible from Genesis. Muslims should stop embarrassing themselves and stick to their ummis book
@@joyphillips1821it say spirit of God. It does not say the Holy Spirit. Even Jesus has spirit too, and we human have spirit too. So did we are the same level with God?? Oh man
@@joyphillips1821 God pours down his spirit down to the earth is seen in Genesis 6:3, Ezekiel 36:27 Isaiah 44:3 and Isaiah 11:2 etc. God pours down Holy Spirit down to the earth is seen in Psalms 51:11-12.
All these scriptures indicate that God is Spirit. We cannot fully depend Genesis as it has some contradiction in the theory of evolution. Since Christians are in the new covenant time, we need to focus on New Testament only, wherein it mentioned that God is Spirit (John4:24). The truth is that God in heaven pours down on earth His own Spirit, Jesus’ Spirit and Holy Spirit, which is Biblical Trinity.
"OH CHRISTIANS CAN YOU NOT SEE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS. LISTEN TO US WE ARE TRYING TO GUIDE YOU TO THE TRUTH. FOR THOSE WHO DOES SO RIGHTOUSLY & FOLLOW ALLAH & HIS LAST PROPHET (PBUH) WILL BE GIVEN PARADISE" ~Muqtadir Ali (Me) 🙂
I struggled to understand many dawah gangdist. The Bible is a spiritual book, meaning it's a lifetime discovery, not something that's stock in time like the quran.
Also, without understanding the mystery of trinity, your knowledge of God remains what someone else said. Trinity is not even something the mind of muslims can ever understand because it was never part of the Islamic teachings since allah has no place in his slave's.
For the sake of arguments, muslims can use it to bamboozled their gullible audience, but that actually change nothing.
The bible can not be approached from the perspective of what's known years back. Even the Bible makes his students know that we all know in part. Unlike the muslim that the understanding of God is based on some recycled ideology, people who read a book about god from people who knows nothing about God, quran 46.9 and from that myopic standpoint they discuss what they know absolutely nothing about.
A hindu can say the same thing about their theology doesn't make it any more true. You can't say theirs are false when you appeal to mystery
@@tylerthebeliever9080My concern is not based on assumption. A pagan believe in what is presented to him or her it doesn't make the individual right or wrong. It's never in claiming, anyone can do that. Proving your point is another thing. For me that's what impresses me about the bible. It's apply to the rule of law and the moment you understand that the principle it opens the derivation flood gate.
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You might misunderstood my point. To claim one is a spiritual book with a lifetime discovery and a theology that appeal to mystery doesn't make it true or anymore true. If that's the case then how should we determine which is true?
@tylerthebeliever9080 Have you read both books. The quran and the bible because if you have both answered your question.
As human beings, all we are exposed to is a mere principle and laws. Just like in math and science. The difference between a scientist and non is what both sides know in the field of science. Both can boil an egg but one understand how it goes from liquid to solid.
It is an open field for all but the different is in the end result.
Same in the spiritual aspect, the concept and understanding is what diffriietiate one from the other. One presented an assumption to fact, which allowed everyone to come to individual conclusion, what that does is to leave a massive door for manipulation and the other presented it in whole living it for individual to explore.
@@Trothoflife
Yes I objectively had read both (so as others), what's the point here?
If a Muslim claimed he's spiritually awaken or gave stories about the spiritual experience they had after reading the quran, does it make it true and the bible or other scriptures false? If no then truth would be subjective which in that case you can't say yours are right or others are wrong (us Muslims can)
That's funny common decency from a muslim they all shout point fingers at you as they shout 😂😂😂😂😂😂
new clown in town ?
1+75+94=1
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Muslim idea of GOD: there's only one GOD almighty and his last prophet..
Christian idea of GOD: he came down to earth humbled himself , make himself a prophet, worship himself, killed himself to appease himself.