Ranking The Best ALL-TIME Starting 5's - Tim Grover
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2021
- Patrick Bet-David has a sit-down with Tim Grover who was the personal coach to Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and many other winners. In this short clip they talk about "The Last Dance."
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About Tim Grover: Tim S. Grover is world-renowned for his work with championship and Hall of Fame athletes and is an international authority on sports performance and motivation. Since 1989, he has been CEO of Attack Athletics, the legendary training philosophy that teaches excellence, commitment, and the concept of "don't think" to elite athletes and business professionals around the world.
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Even Tom Brady said he was chasing MJ. When players of other sports mention you like that, you know you’re the greatest of the GOATs.
Bird is a legend! His killer mindset is legendary!
Birds jumper is the gold standard in the NBA.
1:26 It's funny Pat says this because I'm 22 & it definitely enhanced my view of MJ.
As great as LeBron is, MJ's intangibles like mindset & determination may always put him above LeBron
MJ is Gods Gift to Basketball 🙏🙏🙏
I don't think Dr. J meant Karl Malone he meant Moses Malone..he was his teammate and a monster on court
I agree
Wilt and Shaq is he most physically dominant, Kobe is the hardest worker thus arguably the most skilled, Curry is the best shooter, LeBron is a physical freak of nature, Michael has great athletic ability, big hand, Magic is a freakin tall point guard.
Larry Bird? To be in the conversation while he is not physically gifted, not athletic, cant jump, not quick nor fast. That is so special. Shows how smart, how determined, how bad he was.
Mj shaq and others are more physical freaks or nature then lebron
PBD Please please please do us a favor and do an interview with The Black Cat. We loved the last dance and we need a mega interview
Tim is very smart and rationale, like his comments
My Top 5
- Shaquille O'Neal
- Tim Duncan
- Michael Jordan
- Kobe Bryant
- Allen Iverson
As Point Guard , Yes
I would have picked Olajuwon over Shag because he was more versatile.
Way more, Hakeem is one of the best 2 way players ever. Definitely above shaq, wilt/hakeem/kareem are in their own league.
Wilt, Bird, Jordan, Magic, and Barkley.
Lol
Curry
MJ
Bird
Duncan
Wilt
Bird is the best individual player of the 80's IMO. A killer.
All 📠🔥🔥
He had a lot of success but MJ did things in the ‘80s nobody else did or ever has since.And he was only there for half the ‘80s.
PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Wilt Chamberlain
my all time team
PG LeBron James (2016)
(rim pressure, scoring, playmaking, post defense)
SG Michael Jordan (1992)
(scoring, perimeter defense, clutch)
SF Larry Bird (1985)
(scoring, shooting, passing, vision)
PF Nikola Jokic (2023)
(post scoring, rebounding, IQ, playmaking)
C Hakeem Olajuwon (1995)
(rim protection, rebounding, post scoring)
An all-time starting five is so hard to pick. Right now, I'd say...
PG: Jerry West
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Hakeem Olajuwon
C: Bill Russell
Or...
PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Kareem Abdul Jabbar
My personal starting 5 would be Hakeem, Rodman, Pippen, MJ, Magic. Good luck scoring lol All can and do pass and play defense can hit freethrows, protect the ball and great leaders.
And all are great rebounders and shot blockers at their position.
PLEASE BRING BACK REINER FUELLMICH FOR AN UPDATE AS TO WHAT HIS AND HIS ASSOCIATES LAWSUITS STATUS IS
To not put Wilt nor Kareem in your top 5, is criminal.
If either one of those 2 come around today, forget LeBron, the media and nephews will lose their shit.
And you have to be a fan of the person, to put Shaq over Wilt/Hakeem/Kareem.
Defensive is literally 50% of the game.
And especially nephews have no clue about Kareem and Wilt. They were the best player in the league, the day they joined the league.
Point Guard:
STEPHEN CURRY
Shooting Guard:
MICHAEL "THE AIR" JORDAN
Small Forward:
KOBE "THE BLACK MAMBA" BRYANT
Power Forward:
LEBRON "THE KING" JAMES
Center:
KEVIN "THE SLIM REAPER" DURANT
Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Jordan and Magic.
bird?
First 5. C - Shaq PF - Bird SF - Jordan SG - Kobe PG - Magic. Off the bench C - Dream PF - K. Malone SF - Durant SG - LeBron PG - Steph Curry. Other notable mentions would be C - D. Howard PF - Duncan SF - Webber SG - Luka Doncic PG - I. Thomas.
While I agree with the choices of bird and MJ in the starting team, I believe that your second team would realistically beat them easily in a series.
my all time team ( in any era, including physical ones)
PG LeBron James (2016)
(rim pressure, scoring, playmaking, post defense)
SG Michael Jordan (1992)
(scoring, perimeter defense, clutchess)
SF Larry Bird (1985)
(scoring, shooting, passing, clutchness)
PF Nikola Jokic (2023)
(post scoring, rebounding, IQ, playmaking, efficiency)
C Hakeem Olajuwon (1995)
(rim protection, rebounding, post scoring)
This team has everything. Players who can play in the post (everyone in the lineup), great rebounders (Olajuwon, Jokic, Bird, LeBron), high IQ players with passing ability ( Jokic, LeBron, Larry), tenacious defenders ( Olajuwon, Jordan), players who can hit a game winner if needed (Jordan, Bird, Jokic).
TG!!
MJ, Kobe, LBJ, Larry Bird, Shaq. I can’t argue.
MJ
Kareem
Kobe
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Bird
Magic
Tim Duncan
Shaq
Lebron
Steph Curry
This is the true DREAM TEAM
1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan and Shaq.
I like it but wilt would be my 5
@@juanio7036 you know what, I'm going to replace Shaq with Kareem!
Hakeem Olajuwon
Im about to end this starting 5 debate
PG: '16 Curry 🎯
SG: '91 MJ 🐐
SF: '13 Lebron 👑
PF: '17 Kevin Durant 🐍
C: '00 Shaquille O'Neal ⛽
Top 5 NBA player of time
1) Michael Jordan
2) Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3) Bill Russell
4) Magic Johnson
5) Larry Bird
6) LeBron James
7) Kobe Bryant
8) Shaquille o Neil
9) Tim Duncan
10) Wilt Chamberlain
Damn right Barkley before everybody at power forward
Isn't LeBron a power forward
Duncan
@@zezetravels no he is sf
i like kg and rodman too:)
MJ, Steph, Lebron, Tim, Kareem
My fantasy TEAM, not top 5 of all time:
PG: Magic Johnson(unselfish, would assist everyone, 6'9 and can rebound)
SG: Michael Jordan(the GOAT)
SF: Larry Bird(great shooter, and high basketball IQ)
PF: Tim Duncan(does everything you need, 70% from free throws)
C: Kareem(most unstoppable shot, shot 72% from free throws)
I have everyone taller than 6'6 and shooting over 70% from free throws, this team would beat any starting five in history.
I’d change Kareem for wilt
ill change kareem and duncan for shaq and rodman:)
I got the exact same team!👍
Curry
Jordan
Kawhi
Bird
Hakeem
1) MJ
2) Magic
3) Bird
4) Duncan
5) Kareem
Second Team
6) Kobe
7) Curry
8) Pippen
9) Russell
10) wilt
All Time Top 5 w/ backups
PG Magic (Isaiah)
SG Jordan (Kobe)
SF Bird (Lebron)
PF KD (Russell)
C Kareem (Wilt)
I'm 42... MJ was a freak of nature in the 80-90s... Now every college team has 1-2 players who are as athletic as Jordan was in his prime. Lebron is superior pretty much all around.
being athletic is far from being able to play the game in your mind and execute in the moment friend.
Magic, Mike, Lebron, Duncan, Hakeem
shaq,rodman,bird,mj,penny(prime)
My top 5 starters:
Big O
Kobe
Durant
Duncan
Hakeem
Shaq, Kobe, magic, MJ, bird. I’m biased towards the Lakers
Gross. That team would never be beat
If you want to win, you need these guys:
C: Russell
SG: MJ
PG: Magic
SF: Bird
PF: Duncan
I’d change Russell with wilt
@@juanio7036 i also prefer Wilt but Russell was “THE“ winner in the nba. Wilt came too many times short.
@@ericfurst6091 Russell always had better teams than wilt but individually wilt was more dominate than Russell.
@@juanio7036 that wilt hadnt great teammates is a myth. His warriors were ranked as the greatest team ever and his lakers with west and baylor is a no brianer. Before russell, celtics won nada and after him, it took 5 years to win a another chip. Russell was the better team player and winner. But as soon wilt reduced his numbers, he won chips.
I like wilt, he is no 7-10 in my book but he came too many times short in the clutch.
ill change rodman with duncan or kg
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Wilt
Awards plus championships most all time by player.. #1 MJ 37, #2 Magic 19, #3 Lebron 18, t#4 Russell 17, Cousy 17, Kareem 17, Wilt 17, #8 Kobe 15...Jordan has as many as Magic 2nd place and LeBron #3 place combined.. the true GOAT 🐐 Jordan.. hands down.. LeBron down
This guy sees it the way I do. I had the hardest time picking Shaq over Olajuwon too... I would have Hakeem replace him for the 4th quarter though.
PG Lebron
wing MJ
wing Kobe
F Bird
C Shaq
mine 5>shaq,rodman,bird,mj,penny(prime)
My perfect team (im going to take a 6th man too) all time: I built this team around the scoring of MJ and Kobe. Being they are both ball dominate I had to get unique people!
3guards: MJ Kobe Chris Paul
1PF : Kevin Garnett
1Center: Shaq
6th Man: Dennis Rodman
Kareem Bird Jordan Kobe Lebron
1-Magic, 2-Michael, 3-Larry ,4-Duncan and 5-Wilt.
PBD for GOV 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
DR J list is actually the best one..
I have the same..I divide the NBA in two ERAS...
Oscar
West
Baylor
Pettit or Russel (if there is no positons)
Wilt
Then the 2nd ERA with 3 points .
Magic - best PG ever
Jordan- best SG ever
Bird- best SF ever
Malone- best PF ever ( DUNCAN was a center)
Kareem-best C ever
MJ GOATMAN GOATMAN
Starters:
Payton, Jordan, James, Garnett, O'Neal
Reserves:
DJ, Kobe, Pippen, Antetokounmpo, Gilmore
Awesome List 👍🏽
@@jefferySuperstar
Thank U
Curry
MJ
Kobe
Duncan
Wilt
Magic
Jordan
Bird
Hakeem
Wilt
There’s ppl that are greatness and ppl like Lebron that mimic greatness.
Replace Lebron with Magic, and replace Shaq with Kareem.
Starting 5:
1) Curry
2) Jordan
3) LeBron
4) Durant
5) Shaq
NBA
MJ, LeBron, Bird, Duncan and Olajuwon
Nva
PG - Lebron James
SG - Michael Jordan
SF - Kobe Bryant
PF - Wilt Chamberlain
C - Kareem Abdul Jabbar
I’ll put Olajuwon, Duncan, Bird, Jordan and Curry.
PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Michael Jordan
SF - LeBron or Larry
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Hakeem the Dream or Shaq
Bird over Lebron. Nowtizki over Duncan.
Bird!
I prefer bird but lebron is undeniable. Look at Isiah Thomas talk about how he did everything wtih no great coach/guidance. I would say Bill Russell has to be centre out of greatness, not the best play but did the right things to win. E.g. durant is one of best scorers and players ever but he wont be greater than lebron
Shaq, Dominique, Jordan, Kemp, Rose
Before you compare LeBron to Jordan you have to compare him to Kobe, Kobe was the closest to Jordan.
Bron passed Kobe. Kobe couldn't carry a team like Bron.
Kobe barely top 10 just based off stats
Danny Granger once said if Kobe played at eastern conference, he would go finals every year. Thats the the reality from 1999-2018, best 3 teams always at western conference.
Lebron so overrated, he needed to team up with brunches of talents and superstars. U guys talk like warriors 2015-2016 was superteam, but actually they weren’t if you compare the core of their teams. Warriors’ Trios had 2nd round and 9th 11th pick. But Cavs got 4 top5 pick( Lebron Irving 1st, TT 4th, K love 5th). Lebron always have better squads after 2010 but still lost. 2014 Spurs trio were washed 32, 34 and 36. They Still beat HEATLES WITH RAy GUN. So stop d ride ur Queen bron
Mj dream jabbar bird majic
MJ Black Jesus
Kobe could shoot left. He had to when he got injured
We've gotten better in every single aspect in our lives over time, science, technology etc. Ofc LeBron is better than Jordan and in 20-30 years there will be players who will be way better than LeBron, that's just the natural progression of things.
Don't even try to reason with them. They think Stockton is better than Curry and KD is worse than Malone lmao
Not necessarily
Except we haven't and that has nothing to do with basketball skills if everyone gets better with time like you claim than it would be across the board not just Lebron and Jordan
Jordan>Lebron
@@raeyadmasu1590 Curry>Stockton But Malone>KD isn't a bad take Malone is a better rebounder, defender, passer & playmaker while also being an elite scorer himself. Put prime Malone on the Warriors I doubt the outcome would be any different. It wasn't like people were saying KD>Malone when he was with OkC
@@87mchale.71 How is Malone a better playmaker with an career average of 1,4 assist. KD is a better playmaker, midrange shooter, 3pt shooter, dribbler and a better perimitter defender. Malone only has him on rebounding and interior defense. btw his point total was heavily inflated by having the all time assist leader spoon feeding him.
Magic mj kobe bird and shaq. Ill take magic over lebron
Shaq couldn't hold the dream
Top 5 from accomplishments n stats all that is Magic Jordan Lebron Tim Duncan Kareem but my personal starting five would Bron at point MJ at 2 Kobe at 3 KD at 4 and Shaq at 5
exactly this - cept I might put Timmy D in instead of KD bc hes still playing but in 2-3 years, this is my one and only list
LeBron Steph KD AD & Hakeem is mine.
MJ, Magic, Bron, Bird, Shaq.
MJ is the Goat Period. LeBron is top 5 at best Remember none of the Greats flop it’s just the true facts
5. Shaq
4. Magic
3. Kobe
2. Jordan
1. Chris Paul (Respect)
Magic @ 1
Jordan @ 2
Lebron @ 3
Bird @ 4
Wilt @ 5
Unbeatable
I'm taking Curry & Kareem. Those 2 are unguardable
@Ali Chaudhry MJ can do what KD does. Swap Curry for KD.
Nobody can shoot like Curry. Even without the ball he's dangerous.
@the7thage My team to face you would be
Curry
Kobe
Kd
Hakeem
Shaq
Kool g rap
Rakim
Big
Pharaoh moch
Jayz
Mj played in the before 94, he lost ever year before he finally beat the pistons! Lebron has more points, rebounds, assist! More playoff game winners! Lebron is the goat !
Now check those stats relative to position and you’ll find something out
@@inthedms82 who’s higher on the all time scoring list mj or lebron? Who’s been to more finals?
@@terrencealexander6811 clearly a casual fan tell me how many games they each have lol. Being to more finals is no accomplishment if you don’t win
@@inthedms82 I’m far from a casual fan. And going to that many finals shows high level consistency! How did mj do when he returned to the wizards ?
You are so ignorant
Traditional:
65 West
91 Jordan
85 Bird
03 Duncan or 04 Garnett
67 Chamberlain or 00 O'Neal
Modern:
16 Curry
03 Bryant
14 Durant
85 Bird or 20 Antetokounmpo
93 Olajuwon or 94 Robinson
Stockton
Jordan
Lebron
Duncan
Dream
Get LeBron out of there he would quit on the team or have the players traded facts
Starting 5. Magic, MJ, Bird, Duncan, Hakeem. Lebron 6th man
1. LeBron
2. Shaq
3. Hakeem
4. MJ
5. Kareem
what what unreal lebron ???? 3 Teams Lebrom playing all player around him . how manys Big Star ? Big 4 Lebron . wade .Bosh . Allem and how manys good player on his team ? that manys Star player on you teams , i never repected you at all . hey Lebron can you carry just you and one Star WIN A CHAMP i do repect you in the top 10 all time . here y .MJ and Scott P win champ / Issah Thomas and Lamb / Bird and Mac H / Magic and Karren / Tim Dunk and Parker /Kobe and Shaq / Curry and Thompson .. all they need a Big2 and some player to WIN A CHAMP . can you win big2 Lebron ?? 1 simple thing a STAR player not moving arount like you looking Big4 or Big3 joint . A Star player play one team and retired that team .
The last dance showed all jordan accomplishments and his glory days. All those season he had plenty bad games. For example all those 50 point games an still average 30 ish points per game? Then he had some 20 point or less games for that to average out. Lebron is hands down the greatest basketball player in nba history. He can score with the best of them but he can run an offense too
Well I can’t say jordan ain too tho. I just say they both the goat
Lebron needs 2 superstars to win
@@juanio7036 he just turn good players into superstars so it looks that way
@@juanio7036 Jordan needed Dennis Rodman and pippin to win the last 3 chips. so Jordan needed 2 superstars to win. his first 3 peat there was no competition. and he almost lost to the jazz when he had Dennis an pippin. the refs made them win. WOW
@@juanio7036 Jordan never had opponents that lebron lost to either. he always had a soft opponent. either too old or just not athletic enough.
James Harden is the GOAT
But why does he keep giving up during the playoffs
LAST 🤬💩
I’ll take Magic over Lebron. Look at his record in the finals and his title win percentage over his short career.
Bird over Lebron
@@italiancapo7 I think everyone who understands the depths of the game is taking bird over lebron.
@@Dubb-ee8gr agreed. Ppl today, current & old NBA players hate on Bird bc he’s white. Look at the recent comments by Dennis Rodman and Isaiah Thomas claiming Bird only won 3 straight MVPs bc he was white. Smh
@@italiancapo7 ironically Isaiah Thomas is the most hated on. Left off the Dream Team and left off every all time list even though they won titles on Jordans watch.
Generally for MVPs it gets increasingly harder to win them multiple times especially in a row. Bird, like a few others, was good enough to win three in a row, but in just about every case except Birds, being good enough wasn't good enough.
With all that said Birds high release jump shot is still the gold standard and he is an all-time top 10 player.
Jordan, Curry, Bird, Wilt, Rodman beats everybody
actually KOBE and LEBRON had the ability of making everyone around them worse.
Well, that's a GREAT STARTING FIVE, However, MY STARTING FIVE is the Following:
1) Julius Erving " Dr. J"
THE GREATEST PLAYER EVER!!!
2) Michael Jordan,
3) Larry Bird,
4) Kobe Bryant, and
5) Kareem Abdul Jabbar
THE GREATEST CENTER OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And, MY SIXTH MAN, would be none other than
Earvin "Magic" Johnson, THE MOST CHARISMATIC PLAYER TO EVER BE ON THE COURT!!!
LeBronda James is a clown not a top 10 all time player.
LeBron is the only great that flops 👎👎👎
The white people who put Larry Bird so highly make it hard for me to listen to any white people. Yea he was great but not better than Wilt or Bill Russel
Racism makes it hard to listen to a specific group of people based on race*
Or maybe, just maybe, your own racial bias leads you to believe that Larry, a white guy, couldn’t possibly beat a black guy at basketball.
News flash for ya, Larry would absolutely torch LeBron, and every other person (regardless of race) that guards him. That’s just how it is.
@@Dubb-ee8gr I never said LeBron, I said Wilt and Bill Russel. I wouldn't rank LeBron over Bird. But people who put Bird as number 3 are pushing it.
Why does the guest keep repeating everything? I think that is a speech or brain disorder of some type, right?
Best historical starting 5:
G- Magic
G- Jordan
F- Lebron
F- Duncan
C- Kareem
Best starting 5 if I want to win a game in any era:
G- Steph
G- Jordan
F- Lebron
F- Durant
C- Hakeem