Lizardmen vs Tomb Kings | KROQIDILE : Total War Warhammer 2
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Belegar's Campaign. WE REMEMBER.
Fact about Temple Guard : their damage 42 vs 44 of Black Guard, but in fact their attack interval = 4 sec compared to 4,9 sec for black guard. Actually, their attack animation even faster than Grave Guard GW and Wild Wood Rangers ( 4.3 ). They can be treated as GW infantry with antilarge bonus and shields. Their AL pretty small ( 16 ) but their DPS against infantry is better.
is there a database to check attack interval times?
You can look at (and mod) the game databases if you download the Pack File Manager. Its in the /db/landunits section I believe. Why you can't tell a units actual DPS in game, who knows.
I love the Temple Guard and the big Dinos :) Personally though I'd wish they would give some love to the non meta Lizardmen untis (while giving the Saurus Warriors and Kroxigor different stats while rampaging to make them less reliable: +8 MA, +8 Leadership, but -16 MD). Something like this: forums.totalwar.com/discussion/208761/updated-suggestions-for-the-slann-mage-priest-and-non-dino-lizardmen-units
Blessed Legion of Demonitisation made me chuckle.
Realm of Souls doesn't heal very much, only 8 hp per second, so it only heals 336 hp in total.
Also, Saurus with Spears are pretty good against Tomb Kings. They have 12 AP damage, which isn't great, but it's a lot more than other spear infantry except for WE's Eternal Guards. But they 30 normal damage, so they do a lot of damage for an anti-large infantry. And they also attack faster than other spear/halberd units. So they will do well against TK infantry while still holding their own against constructs. Their biggest weakness is their low Melee Attack.
Realm of Souls healing does not make sense for characters, because what the Realm actually does in the lore is "recycle" souls of Nehekharan soldiers into dead bodies. Hence no healing for characters.
Love both your opponents chariot plays and the fact that he didn't just cheap out on the frontline in order to get some monsters that play themselves. This in my opinion is the TK style that everybody would be dying to watch! Thanks for the video ^^
*Crikey! Look at the size of that 'un!*
My thoughts exactly!
What a great game. Kudos to your opponent's maneouvres and use of chariots.
Imagining Krok'gar going full Fist of the North Star
Arkhan: ''Foolish lizard, your troops are dead and you are alone, what chance do you have'
Krok: ' You haven't even seen me try'
Arkhan: 'NANI' -is blown up-
Arkhan is trully already dead
Kroq´Gar ... love him, my favorite hero in the TW 2 series. He is so versatile, Grombrindal/Durthu close second.
Arkhan riding away from the Trexes in his charriot looks like that scene from Jurassic park with the sidemirror that says something like 'objects in the mirror are closer than they appear'
Realm of Souls heal only units what have this ability. So skeletons at any kind, but not heroes, lords, constructs or VC units.
Realm of Souls is the Nehekaran lore passive? If so, then yes it does heal constructs, heroes _and_ lords. At least in campaign.. dunno if it's intended but it's always done (150 turns) for me. Idk why.
(I watch their HP go up, and the icon is also there)
It's horrible, though. One cast heals maybe about 50 hp? It's so extremely insignificant, even on the grand scale.. in MP I'm not sure it's even worth spending gold on?
SebSk nah realm of souls is the healing caused by your army dying. I forget what the lore trait is called.
Ahhh okay thank you for clearing that up :)
I've saw another comment sometime about the Nehekaran lore passive that said it doesn't heal constructs so I just wanted to throw that comment out there :)
TURIN that hand of the god was so glorious !!
That Hand of the Gods was awesome. Did not realize you still had that in your pocket.
9:20 Dayumit, Gary! Get yer butt outta mah way! I gotta get after that feller!
DAMNIT GARY!
Wow, what a fun and close game! That clutch Hand of the Gods at the end though; just POOF! hahaha
Really fun build from the opponent too.
His build was great!
when you have 3 bastiladons, can you name the third one Robert? george gary and robert
I like Robert! That works!
How much did you pay him to run that build
;)
Give us more! GIBE! GIBE!
Hey Turin, do you have any more coop campaigns planned? Also nice hand of the gods, you just deleted him.
9:45 i watched it like 5 times and still cannot believe my eyes lol. pure rekt.
Whenever I see Kroxigors I always thing of Trogdor, maybe it's the upper body and neck.
NEVER! I will not accept defeat!
For what match ups would Kroxigors be good for? Could taking Colde-One Spear-Riders help with dealing against Tomb Kings Chariots?
Well Kroxigors are good for using in tandem with chaff, bolstering the main battle line. So... not in this battle :p
VS Chaos, for instance, they're great.
Any other good matchups for Kroxigors?
Tactical Analysis Gaming I like them against dwarfs but they get shot up pretty bad.
Forgot to mention that they are one of the few good multi-model armour-piercing units for Liz.
Saurus warriors have _none_ . IIRC then Saurus Spears actually have some armour-piercing. Temple Guards have some (more than spears).
I really use Kroxigors as anti-armour only, in main battle line fights. That's why I mentioned I don't think they're great VS TK. I'd rather bring anti-large and anti-infantry and a decent spellcaster.
Other matchups by _my_ subjective logic:
- Other Lizardmen
- Dark Elves (watch out for Black Guard)
- Dwarves as said (but again, watch out for artillery)
- Maybe High Elves (but HE has _tons_ of anti large, even their archers have it)
"Blessed legion of Demonetization" Haha! :D
Hi turin
I disagree slightly that the lore of heavens is one of the better lores of magic, alot of their spells have a long cast time so it is possible for an alert opponent to move his units out of the way
Rather for the Lizardmen I think lore of beasts is really good, specifically the Amber spear - use it on the side of a straight line of an enemy infantry unit and easily cut their numbers in half instantly, not to mention it has really low mana cost and somewhat instant cast time
Give it a try! It relies alot on good positioning but in the best scenario it is vastly better than fate of bjuna, plus it also has high damage to be used on single entities
Turin, why do you call rev crystal Dino, "Gary"?
Tomb Kings, the Benny Hill themed faction.
I see what you mean, but I think that ought to go to the wood elves.
how long until someone makes a settra ek build?
Surprised we haven't seen it yet!
K.O.
tomb blade should be a single target
That vulnerability to fire the lords have is a bit too debilitating. Is was cool to see the chariots used well. Not a fan of the crypt ghouls and other vampire units. I'd like to see the TK do well on their own; it's a pity the other lords aren't as competitive as Arkhan . I wonder how well the scorpions would have done?
hand of the gods = end game item?
IT would seem so!
you total war wizard
Why everyone brings Arkhan on chariot ? His main role is Death Caster/ buffer, he can't be melee beatstick. Skelton steed is 1) cheaper 2) faster 3) has little hitbox -> hard to snipe. Oh, maybe, it is for style points ?
Arkhan on his chariot can do some serious damage when rear/side charging units.
He is also the fastest on the chariot so he can outrun enemy lords which is rather important for a caster
MrFlipToy My bad about speed ( don't own DLC, just played against ), but price and hitbox are in list yet. First rule vs Undead : take down leader. If you bring your general in combat, your opponent will try to snu-snu him ( it was the case in video ).
But chariots aren't supposed to be beatsticks. The damage that chariots do is overwhelmingly found in their charge bonus and their formation-trashing mass. Arkhan has a charge bonus of 75...and melee attack/defense in the low to mid 30s. If you're leaving him in sustained combat, then you're either desperate or playing him wrong.
I think you're overestimating how valuable the smaller hitbox of the skeleton horse is when it comes at the cost of losing all the combat utility of the chariot AND its increased speed, especially against a race like the Lizardmen. Kroq-Gar and the Scar-Veteran, both of whom have abilities that let them temporarily buff their speed even further, are also naturally faster than Arkhan on a skeleton horse. A smaller hitbox wasn't about to save him from a point-blank hand of the gods, and if it also meant that he can't outrun either of them...what's the point?
Oh! Also, I just double-checked the item: Arkhan's Tomb Blade gives both him and every friendly unit within 30m a very nice heal (and fire damage, too)...but it won't recharge unless he's in melee combat. The chariot makes that immensely easier than if he's on the slower, smaller, and lower-mass horse.
TK lost? how is this possible for them? Kappa
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