TRACK BATTLE: H22A Honda Prelude (BB6) VS K20 Honda Civic Si (FA5) | SCCA Time Trial at NCM

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    In this video, we see how an 8th gen Honda Civic Si (FA5) does against my 1998 Honda Prelude. Both cars have VERY high mileage, but the battle is surprisingly close!
    After crashing my 2017 Honda Civic Type R (FK8) at a #Gridlife Track Battle event, I decided it was time to get back to it. I had taken my Prelude out to Weatherly Hillclimb to compete, but I knew the car needed some updating and upgrades. After spending some time and money on Konig Ampliforms, Hankook Ventus RS4 tires, Hawk DTC60 brake pads and some maintenance, I took my 1997 Honda Prelude (BB6) out to SCCA Time Trial at Thompson.
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  • @FlyinGato
    @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watch to the end to get the answer: Can I pass this Civic Si with my Prelude?

  • @yinzerboys
    @yinzerboys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I chose a prelude bb6 over newer civics just bought one in November my previous car was a 00 civic si with k20 type r complete swap that I owned for 10+ years after a few small fender benders I sold motor and parted car out
    I Love my prelude!

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prelude is a very underrated platform

  • @DaGoodKine8o8
    @DaGoodKine8o8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JDM h22A ftw. Love the videos man. Keep it up!

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate it!

  • @jamesshives5679
    @jamesshives5679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would choose the Prelude 👍
    Also, I'm liking the graphics you are doing now in the videos

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I'm increasing quality in the videos this year as well, hope you guys all notice!

  • @josephabakersr3884
    @josephabakersr3884 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am Really anxiously looking forward to seeing your Type R back at the Track! Same track posting your time differences 🤣👍🎆

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm definitely going back to NCM this year, twice if time, and the wife (Jane) permits it!

  • @JahirGraham
    @JahirGraham 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No brainer Prelude❤

  • @cherokeefit4248
    @cherokeefit4248 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 2024 si coupe. It’s fun to drive. I bet it goes up in value from now on for the clean stock ones.

  • @Losangelespharaohs
    @Losangelespharaohs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Prelude ftw, i enjoy learning upgrades on this car. I already upgraded with a type s oem air intake (dymanic air box chamber) is what they called it.

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you should look into wheels, tires and suspension, car really wakes up with that

    • @Losangelespharaohs
      @Losangelespharaohs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlyinGato i just completed my set of the type SH 16' wheels for the car, next up is suspension might be koni yellows. Pretty stoked!

  • @zakikhan814
    @zakikhan814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    jus found your channel. Love these cars. Personally got a 4th gen wit a jdm h23a bluetop with a t2w4 tranny. Got an rbc intake manifold port/polished with a plenum extension of about 3/4 inch paired with an 80mm tb; had to get a fuel regulator. Might consider a plenum extension on manifold since the h series love to breathe
    The thing keeps up with stock srt challengers and those lil turbo focus st

  • @Exhaust_power
    @Exhaust_power 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I personally think the prelude has the better chassis for the circuit. I have a both a 92 and SH. The SH pulls really well through sweeping corners, slower hairpins the rear end wants to step out because of the atts. Takes getting used to but Its great.

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The longer wheelbase makes it feel very planted in the long sweeping corners

    • @Exhaust_power
      @Exhaust_power 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely does. shuboxinc's prelude is fast around the track for having a relativly stock engine.

    • @lollol-xp4mc
      @lollol-xp4mc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Exhaust_power it doesnt have the balance of the newer civic due to the h22 being a heavy engine for a 4 banger but the prelude makes up for it a little with the double wishbone

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lollol-xp4mc stop it. The motor is not even that much heavier. It’s been tested and weighed over and over again many times.

    • @guerrillamane9573
      @guerrillamane9573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lollol-xp4mc I don’t believe that

  • @johnsiple8970
    @johnsiple8970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    your right the new gopro has a much better lens and filter, great pic.

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Told ya! Can't wait to get into the track this year with the R and film some crazy racing with better quality cameras

  • @TheBb6prelude
    @TheBb6prelude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great driving overall ,enjoyed the video.
    The only 8th gen Si I’d like to own is a k24 swap to eventually go k24/20. Other than that I don’t care for the k20... I much prefer my cam F20b making 230 wheel and seeing 9k rpms.

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      9k rpms is unbeatable

    • @hibs5516
      @hibs5516 ปีที่แล้ว

      12-15 SI came with a K24Z if I'm not mistaken

  • @Yussupka
    @Yussupka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, prelude h22a red top stok??? 220 hp? Coilovers??? Or stok?

  • @connor_ransom04
    @connor_ransom04 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Honda prelude as well and it’s awesome. Is yours a 6 cylinder or a 4 cylinder? And should I turbocharge it or leave it original?

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were all 4 cyl, but mine has a JDM

  • @eludethis
    @eludethis ปีที่แล้ว

    4 wheel independent double wishbones for the win!

  • @nathanperaino833
    @nathanperaino833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your car corners really neutral. What spring rates and sway bars are you using? I have a 4th gen prelude and am looking to buy my first suspension setup.

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll have to look back at all the details, but I’ll make a video on it for you. It’s the camber settings, height adjustment, square wheel setup that is a big part of it too

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a fourth gen. Get a very stiff suspension for track use. You’re going to need it.

  • @juanc5149
    @juanc5149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Power wise seems to be about identical if not slight edge to his k series. His lines seem to be very good, maybe more time with the track and a little more grip and you would of gotten him!

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch to the end, I do get him :)

  • @agaad22
    @agaad22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have an LSD in the Prelude?

  • @kerm281
    @kerm281 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You gotta slipstream his ass

  • @kristoKR-zj8oi
    @kristoKR-zj8oi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do H22s burn oil when pushed hard?

    • @lollol-xp4mc
      @lollol-xp4mc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They burn oil regardless

    • @kristoKR-zj8oi
      @kristoKR-zj8oi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lollol-xp4mc ho much is normal?

  • @janronelrecano1208
    @janronelrecano1208 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are your prelude mods man?

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      suspension, H22A, M2B4 transmission, RSR exhaust, few other things. Video on this, soon

    • @janronelrecano1208
      @janronelrecano1208 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlyinGato ECU?

  • @emmanuelguerrero3751
    @emmanuelguerrero3751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the civics set up?

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Staggard wheel setup, with 200 treadwear tires up front, spring and shocks upgraded (not coilovers) and that's it

    • @emmanuelguerrero3751
      @emmanuelguerrero3751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlyinGato 👌 sounds like the route I'm going with my Civic

  • @aaronsmith480
    @aaronsmith480 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could hear the car more

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea the exhaust sounds great for a street exhaust, doesn't scream enough though

  • @Moneygrip
    @Moneygrip 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much does it weigh

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Prelude or Civic? they both weigh right around 2900 pounds, with the Civic Si actually weighing a little bit less than the Prelude

    • @Moneygrip
      @Moneygrip 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      FlyinGato the prelude im trying to get my prelude down in weight

    • @lollol-xp4mc
      @lollol-xp4mc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Moneygrip why are you trying to take weight out? Is it going to be a race car

    • @Moneygrip
      @Moneygrip 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol lol probably

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lollol-xp4mc because stock weight is garbage that’s why. My prelude is not a race car and it’s 2640 lbs. stock weight makes the prelude slow. Later I’ll get mine to 2500 flat.

  • @ekcloud9617
    @ekcloud9617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    need to drop a gear before you hit them corners stick in the powerband

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I usually do, but I had power studders at higher rpms. Turned out to be a bad valve cover gasket

    • @simonkerr7128
      @simonkerr7128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting, I was wondering why you weren't using higher revs, such as changing too quick out of corners as well. Could go 10sec or more faster without that issue.

    • @freeman8000
      @freeman8000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlyinGato power studders? Please explain.

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When flooring it, it would lose power momentarily

    • @freeman8000
      @freeman8000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlyinGato interesting. And that was due to a valve cover gasket?

  • @chasealvarez5209
    @chasealvarez5209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’m willing to bet the prelude is lighter, and that all wheel steering gives you a advantage.

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No all wheel steering on my Prelude, just LSD like the Si

    • @juanc5149
      @juanc5149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Prelude’s double wish one suspension may give him a slight advantage, but that’s about it.
      There is no all wheel steering versions of 5th gen preludes in the US Market.

    • @FG2Zim
      @FG2Zim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlyinGato no, the prelude uses a torque biasing diff, different than an lsd like the civic si.

    • @repingers9777
      @repingers9777 ปีที่แล้ว

      actually they weight almost exactly the same 😂☠️

  • @noahasham3405
    @noahasham3405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prelude all-day over civic

  • @vegeta2644
    @vegeta2644 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    PRELUDE NATION MO FUCKAS

    • @FlyinGato
      @FlyinGato  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's right!

  • @juliocesarmessuti887
    @juliocesarmessuti887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy doesn’t know how to do downshifting