Super UFO Pro 8 - ROM Dumper & Flash Cart for SNES / MY LIFE IN GAMING
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- Our first in a series of EverDrive alternatives, Try takes a look at a device for the Super Nintendo that's more interesting than its poor reputation might suggest. The Super UFO Pro 8 has plenty of quirks and limitations, but if you're interested in dumping your own ROMs for backup or patching, it has a lot to offer at a very low cost.
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6:28 - You know you can get to the Super Game Boy 1 borders on the SGB2, right? Just select the to the black border and press L L L L R. You'll hear a chime and now when you go back into the menu, the original borders will be there.
I made a fix patch to allow Pilot Wings to work with a Mario Kart cartridge in the copier. If that's something you want just let me know. It works perfectly without any glitches.
WoW! I would be very interested in this?
@@Kangsteri what a mug he never replied smh liers
Best resource for info on this cartridge out there has to be this video, thanks! I've had this for a couple years and really didn't use it just because of the severe lack of info, no one ever properly explained save management on it either.
You have a very EASY to understand and a VERY SIMPLE, and yet CLEAN tutorial/narrative of Gaming. Love your NARRATIVE; you don't pick on anyone; you're just HONEST to the FLOOR!!!!
Great video as always guys! Even if I'm not really interested in the subject of a video, I always love hearing what Coury and Try have to say. I'd say you two are the most criminally underrated gaming channel on TH-cam.
Despite the fact that it will never replace my Super Everdrive as a flashcart, I found that the Super UFO 8's features still made it a worthwhile purchase.
The Super UFO Pro 8 has ensured that my Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy III saves from over 20 years ago will never disappear. When I replaced the batteries in my carts several years ago, I had to temporarily wire a second battery in parallel so that the SRAM would not lose power. It was a pretty scary process, and the success rate was not 100%. RIP Secret of Mana & Breath of Fire II saves. Thanks to the Super UFO 8, I won't have to deal with such risks next time I have to replace the batteries. I was also able to copy my SNES Chrono Trigger saves to the Super Famicom cartridge. It actually worked fine, except the characters' names were all gibberish. A quick visit to the Nu in Laruba village fixed that.
It also acts as a handy adapter for playing SNES games on the Super Famicom. If you look at the prices of SNES/SFC converters on ebay, you will find that they'll set you back the price of a Super UFO Pro 8.
Next time you attempt the battery swap; Just plug it into the console and boot it up with no case on. You can hot swap the battery while the game is running without losing anything. Thats the easiest way. I have a junk snes mobo (doesn't display audio/video) and bottom case that I use for this purpose. It just lives on my desk lol
You're right about the Super famicom the SNES cart adapter too. Somehow you gotta be able to get a cheap chinese one for a couple bucks but you're going to have to get it from a seedier supplier than ebay or amazon
71dembones huge thanks for that tip! Never thought on that! I'll put this to use real soon!!!!!!!!!
Estradas Virtuais glad I could help. The same goes for any cartridge game with a battery. Best way to do it
71dembones I have no experience on electronics repairs. Every battery that I swapped so far was on my own stuff. For that reason I aways waited the battery die before changing. On your repairs how do you determine that a battery is going to die? Multimeter works well for that?
As I have understand it, dumping your own ROMs is technically the only "legal" way to do it. Would be cool to have a review of the options to do so. Like the mentioned Retrode, or the Kazzo cartridge "INL Retro" Dumper, CopyNES. Creating ISO backups, or access ROMS from VC etc... anyways, nice video as always :-D
I'm still using my original Super Magicom and Super Wild Card copiers from the early 90's.
Still working great!
@@littlecr0w Please refer to a TH-cam comments FAQ for more understanding of how this all works.
I have Starfox 2 as a repro cart and UFO 8 and I can confirm it works.
You put so much care, research, and editing into your videos. They are entertaining and very informative! Keep up the awesome work!
You guys think of absolutely everything you can to include in a video. Awesome work!
Thank you SO MUCH for explaining the limitations of this device. I find it pretty remarkable that it took this long to find any decent information about it!
The DSP 1 chip has different revisions, hence why it does not work when you cross Pilot Wings and Mario Kart, exactly as it wouldn't work if you swapped the chips in both cartridges. There are 2 games I believe that use the same revision DSP 1 as Mario Kart does. For games that do not work because of security check, try and get a hacked rom, they have to get rid of security checks in order to hack I believe. I can run any game that does not have an enhancement chip on my Super UFO.
Wow. Once again you guys put out something absolutely amazing, and you've made my decision making process a lot easier when it comes to SNES/SFC translations.
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Does the Super UFO just pass the signals from the outer pins to the cart socket on the top?
Would make a lot of sense if it did.
This is definitely on my list of things to get for my collection now. Thank you so much for this informative vid! All of your videos are awesome!
I've been watching for a while and I thought you had way more than 61k subs. How do you not have more on a really high quality channel.
For anybody who's backed up saves from the UFO to an SRM file, restored them to the cart, and started the game only to discover their saves aren't there...
I discovered that for some games, the UFO overwrites the first 8 bytes of SRM files it backs up with UFO%UFOZ characters (the '%' actually represents a non-printable character in this case, to be precise).
It seems some games ignore these changed bytes when restoring, but at least for ActRaiser, the SRM file will appear to restore successfully to the cart, but when you play the game, your save won't actually be there.
Fortunately, if you use a hex editor to compare the SRM file from the UFO to one generated by an emulator for the game's ROM, and overwrite those first 8 bytes in the UFO SRM file with the first 8 from the one from the emulator, ActRaiser can again read the save file and all your data will be there (i.e. the 8 bytes don't corrupt the actual save data, it seems).
I haven't discovered any other games yet that won't read a restored save if those bytes are present, but I imagine the same procedure would work for others.
I was just watching your videos all day on my day off with my 3 year old. He (and I) love your videos!
I know this was posted 4 years ago but I just want to say this just made me so happy and was exactly what I was looking for
The production value of your videos is amazing. Keep it up.
Great video as usual! Can't wait to see the Saturn RGB video sometime soon!
btw, Nice RGB Monitors Corey!
Lu Looper still waiting on the Saturn episode myself as well.
I figured the Saturn RGB episode was next but I'll take this.
+SikSlayer [Try4ce] We have begun to work on Saturn RGB, but expect a few other episodes before it hits! Those system specific episodes really take some time.
My Life in Gaming have you seen the Saturn component cables being sold on eBay? I have them. They work great. Someone beat HD Retrovision to it.
Is it the ol Douchendance Saturn component cables?
Thank you so much for this video. I've been wanting to play some SFC games for a long while now and this is a great way to do it. I followed your instructions here and everything is working great. Much appreciated!
Love the new background here!
I see this being the definitive guide on the Super UFO Pro 8. This is what the community needed on the subject, thanks guys!
The reason why SA-1 games can't be dumped on the Super UFO is because they have copy protection on them. It is illegal to bypass this protection sadly so Super UFO doesn't support bypassing it neither does the Retrode. But most SNES games don't have this protection on them happily so it isn't much of an issue. S-DD1 games like Star Ocean also have this copy protection too.
I love when Coury and Try introduce each other’s videos, just fun to see both of them even though it’s basically a solo vid for Marc
It's so awesome that Redguy has developed SuperFX and SA-1 support for the SD2SNES, the retro gaming community comes to the rescue!
Another quality video! Keep up the amazing work guys!
I have been telling people for years, this cart isn't bad! It's just needing a little fiddling. Thank you for helping grow the SUPER UFO Pro 8 Community!
I bought one of these many years back now, for the price it does a good job. I eventually went to the sd2snes, but the superufo8 is good for those on a strict budget. Some really useful info on how to use this two, loads of stuff I had no idea about! Especially with the dumping of ROMS using this device. Many thanks for that!
I know it's a really minor thing, but your intro music is magical!
Dude, those bricks holding up your televisions. I'm all for it.
+avfusion [Try4ce] I felt like I had a revelation when the idea came to me.
I think I'm going to do the same thing. thanks for the idea!
Brick-board shelving, the staple storage system of the poor university student!
i already own a SD2SNES but this was very interesting. can't wait for you to cover more flashcarts!
I got this cart when it first came out. I just wanted a cheep ever drive like cart but damn the functions on this cart I did not know of when I first obtained this is just incredible
I see lots of potential in this type of thing. I'd love to see an updated version of this with better support, new features, and some more general ironing out. Thanks for sharing info on this strange new device!
Awesome video guys. I'm not as heavy into the SNES as other consoles, but this sounds like it's a must own for me.
WHOA. This is exactly what I need to dig into my SFC titles without worrying about a Retron5. Thanks for the hot tip guys!
This is amazing, I'd really like to play my ntsc-j games in English with an original snes. I will consider this
Neat! I really like the sram transfer to original carts ... I already have the SD2SNES, but this would be cool to backup my saves
If you get file type error, it's because the rom size must be increased a little until it reaches a size that matches a real cartridge size. In other words, you can't run a trimmed rom on the Super UFO.
Nice overview, very thorough! This would be great as a cheap general utility flash cart, but the one-game saving and 8-character filenames are dealbreakers for me. The ROM dumping features are cool though!
Very nice video and all the work you have done on this :) Now a understand how my own Super UFO Pro 8 works. I did give me problems before and a stop using it. But that will change and a will use it properly again :) Thank you!
man! this intro music is so great!!!
Wish this video was around a few months ago when I got back into retro hard-ware gaming and bought the Super UFO intitally before returning it and getting a Everdrive. It was a neat flashcart, but as they said it very poorly documented and a lot of the messages I seen out there tried to say it was a knockoff that was best return. Very happy with my SD2SNES I have, but UFO wasn't a bad flashcart too. Glad to see Try likes this a lot.
Great production value, as always!
If there ever is something like a Super UFO Pro 9, let's hope it just lets us apply patches directly like you would on the Retron5 or Retro Freak or something. My Cyber Gadget Retro Freak arrived yesterday and it's very simple. Put the IPS file in a folder labeled "Patch", stick it in the console, insert the game cartridge and after it's finished dumping the ROM just go into the settings and enable the patch. One cool trick I discovered was that while the Retro Freak backs up the game ROM to SD card, if gives you the option to play either the ROM on the cartridge or SD card.
Well, damn! Your video about Everdrives made me finally decide that Everdrives weren’t for me, and this video just convinced me that the UFO 8 *is!*
Mine’s on my way and I can’t wait!
Oh wow, i wasn't expecting Super Ufo Pro 8 to be covered by you guys, considering there are better (and much more expensive) options as far as flashcarts go. I have one and it served me well, haven't delved into all it can do yet, this video will be very helpful!
+Technique San [Try4ce] I just think it's interesting. We have wanted to do videos on several "EverDrive Alternatives."
For sure! I'm a big fan of flashcarts for many reasons, your in-depth coverage of them helps me decide which ones to pick, I'm still missing a 64 and a turbografx one. I'd love to see the TG16/PC Engine options covered someday, keep it up!
+Technique San [Try4ce] 64 Drive will be coming in a future episode. I've heard about some PCE options lately that have me interested. That's what I'd like to look into next if I can.
Great video guys! Might pick this one up!
You guys are champs for tackling this kind of stuff.
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Probably the best informative video on this device. The UFO was originally seen as a competitor to the Super Everdrives and SD2SNES but I think it's actually a different tool. I still have both. Anybody else notice the price of the UFO went up to at least double these past few months?! It used to be about $45!!!
This. I guess I'm late to the party here but I should have gotten one of these when I first heard of the thing.
excellent video as always.
and I love the animation and sounds ❤️👍
If those SNES cartridges were any cleaner they'd look like CGI. ;)
Nice job!
I'd love to see an episode covering that professional looking VCR under Try's TV.
I remember when growing up one of my friends' dads had one of those Super Nintendo floppy disk ROM dumpers and we thought it was the most amazing thing in the world to have an entire library of SNES games on floppy disks!
Nice video! Looks like this might be the best way to do what I want, backup my save games and play translated games. That sound effect is the monitor activation/deactivation sound from 2300 AD in Chrono Trigger, right?
Tombi on a PSP... that was something like two seconds in the intro, but it was great.
One of the best PS1 games for sure.
I have one of these ufo pro 8's and it works really well.
I really love your work and all the things you do in every episode!
I just see that flash card and im thinking to buy one too.
My question is if this flash card can run NTSC roms on my Pal Snes.
Awesome upload, this is wonderfull♥
You can access the original SGB borders on SGB2 with a button code, actually.
Another great one guys!
Thanks a lot for explaining the UFO SRAM Tool, previous to this video I was using Ucon64 to pad out the emulator SRM files for the UFO by "ucon64.exe --pad -ufos ROMNAME.SRM" which was a longer process. Good to know there is an easier method now. Thanks heaps mate.
Great review. Maybe I have been too hard on the Super UFO through the years. It does appear to have few nice tricks up its sleeve. It seems like more of a tool suite than a Super EverDrive/SD2SNES competitor though.
+SmokeMonster [Try4ce] Heh, I did come across a post of yours from some years back (pre-SD2SNES, I believe), so I did wonder what you might think if you saw this video! It does indeed fail (price aside) if you look at it strictly as an alternative to Super EverDrive/SD2SNES, but it certainly has its uses if you approach it with the right mindset. It's certainly a flawed device, but I find myself strangely charmed by it.
Yes, your review definitely changed how I feel about it. Now that I'm thinking of it as a $60 lock-on cart/hardware tool suite, it really seems like a great value with a lot of useful applications. I'd pay $60 for just the cart save-transfer feature alone, so everything else it does would be a bonus. I'll have to track one down, and start backing up all of my carts' old saves :)
Is there a list that shows which games are (or aren't, which would probably be shorter) compatible with the SUFO8?
I'd be very interested in playing Tengai Makyou Zero in English when it becomes available - but it has a special chip for data decompression. I'd be curious to see if that cart works with the SUFO8. However, the eventual ROM+patch size might also be incompatible...
Sorry if this question was answered in the comments already!
I have been inspired to purchase this, this is exactly what i needed, a utility that can rip and act as a flash cart. now if only there was one for nes
Dumping NES carts involves knowing the mappers, and there are detailed lists out there. You would need a CopyNES or the Analogue NT Mini which has a copynes implementation as well.
Artemio Urbina interesting, where can I get one of these?
The copynes: www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?products_id=36
The Analogue Nt MIni: www.analogue.co/pages/nt-mini
thanks
Loved the episode! My interest is piqued at only $60...
This video is pure gold!
regarding the dsp1 chip cross game compatability. mariokart used hirom version of dsp1, pilotwings used lorom. I made a list a while ago if you're interested. most dsp1 games used hirom, if you check out some of the japanese only DSP games you will have the most success using a copy of mariokart. for example I purchased a super air diver cart for my super famicom to be able to play super mariokart on it, since this was the cheapest japanese dsp1 game i could find. I do have a 1chip PAL snes with the original mariokart, but the scanlines on 240p compared to 276p are much nicer and the screen on the pvm is filled out more. If you like megaman there's a fun hack floating around called megaman x Hardtype. Brutal but fun hack based on X where your lifecounter is replaced by a death counter. have fun trying to get through the introduction stage ;). I soon will try the x3 zero hack wich seems interesting aswell.
Glad you guys aren't sucked into the everdrive cult and can appreciate other flashcart, unlike a few other channels
An episode I'd like to see from you is one (or multiple if needed) about clone consoles. Like the Retron line of consoles, the Retro Duo/Trio ones, Super Nico Fami, Pound Challenger, GamerzTek line of consoles etc. I know, you are all about RGB master class and so on, but those mods or FPGA clones are really expensive, so a 'budget clones' episode could really be interesting for viewers on a budget.
Another cool thing I used to do with "unlimited SRAM" saving was to save tons of animations and pictures for Mario paint and my Super Mario Kart ghost races.
I Still have race replies of myself playing from 1992. :)
This video convinced me to purchase this cart instead of an everdrive. Good to know that there are more people that wants to have the original SFC cart but play a translated rom. I do this because of games that weren't released over in south america or are just too expensive like MMX2 or Chrono trigger(man, 15 bucks CIB against 150-200)
Fan translations are often much better though.
FYI to everyone! I'm running translation patches on my japanese Dragon Quest III, Tales of Phantasia, and Star Ocean cartridges on my Retro Freak console. While it is more expensive than a Retron 5, I think it is still a great option none the less if you want to play these games with translation patches.
How did you managed to run Dragon Quest III? What happens to me is that the file always ends up surpassing the 32mbits limit after translating it and does not start up.
Okay, judging from the background in Try's parts of the videos, I think it's time for a new set-up tour. I need that beautiful crt action.
I have the SFC Yossy Island..works just fine on the UFO.
5:18 The game "Lock On" uses the same DSP-1 Chip found in Mario Kart.
I've successfully ran a Mario Kart rom with the game "Lock-On" connected.
My favorite flash cart!
Who are feedback this as negative? Each episode of mylifeingaming its a jewel, really, i don't understand people...
Guys, thank you for give us wisdom,you are the best!!
It's raspberry pi users mostly based on some of the negative comments on here.
What a bunch of loosers...
Nothings better than watching good dumps while I'm having a bad dump.
Just ordered one. It serves another purpose for me. play snes games on a super famicom
Where did you find it plz?
I had one of these along with the clone system that was made by the same company. It worked when you had a copy of star fox on top. On a side note my roommate spilt beer on it and it worked better. Bottom line you gotta have something with an FX chip in it for it to have the juice to work.
Yessss new MLIG makes everything better.
Around 3:44 you mention the Super UFO won't boot up with an NTSC cart on top. Did you mean in general or if you're trying to run a PAL ROM? I was hoping I could use this to back up saves on all my battery-backed games, which are all North American NTSC.
+PersistentNitrogen [Try4ce] I'm borrowing a PAL console, which did not boot up when I had an NTSC cart on top of the UFO. It would boot with no cart, or PAL carts. I'm not sure if there might be a workaround, but yeah, unfortunately that does make it seem difficult to back up NTSC ROMs through a PAL console. You can play the ROMs if they were already on the card though.
Thanks. Actually I think I was unclear - I have an North American NTSC SNES and NTSC games, and just wanted to make sure the Super UFO would be able to boot with the cart attached.
+PersistentNitrogen [Try4ce] Oh OK gotcha. I'm still not positive, but I feel like it would.
Ok thanks, and thanks for doing a video on this tool! The save backup feature is HUGE. I haven't had any carts' batteries go bad yet, but in anticipation of that day, I've been looking for a long time for a way to be able to replace the battery WITHOUT permanently losing the saves on the cart. If this device can read/write saves, I think that's how I do it - backup -> replace battery -> restore. Now to find some options for NES, GB, and GBA...
0:56 Yay! Another Goemon fan!
Neat! If I still had a SNES I'd love one. Software preservation is neat. I do have a copy of SF Tetris on my desk I bought for a friend. Would be super neat to try dumping it.
I had problems with games that have anti-piracy devices. Megaman X for example, if you get the dash boot, the boot disappears in the other stages and sometimes goes back to the introductory stage
Man can't beat that price wow! Geez I may actually get one.
sounds amazing
You can extract a DSP-1 chip from a donor cart and place it in the Super Everdrive. As long as you have the right version, that is. Mario Kart and Pilotwings works like a charm.
When is the MLIG blu ray coming out? :)
Thank you for a very informative video. Could you please also create a short video of how to load, save game progress, and later load the saves after playing another game all from SD card?
I would be very thankful.
+murderdoggg [Try4ce] This is outlined to some degree in the video. Just back up from the UFO to the SD card (as well as the cart if you want). Then you've got that save on the SD card that you can keep safely.
I ended up purchasing one of these so I could backup and restore SRAM during battery replacements. For that feature alone, it's been worth every penny ... especially since I only paid $36 for it.
Where did you get that amazing price for it? I can't seem to find them for under $60 USD.
I'm fairly certain that I got it off of Ebay (I've had it for awhile) ... probably someone who wasn't a fan of the UI or some such jazz. I had been on the fence for awhile about getting one, but I had to jump on it for that price.
Yes! you can use the japanese carts to play english roms! I think this flashcart might be worth a pickup as it could play some of the expensive games with special chips for less $$$.
So would the romhacks translartion patches and many other romhacking.net games still be on a normal snes carts that way they could be played on original hardware or just on the super ufo in general
I wanna really thank for your video because i can easy transfer my great cheat code save game files from my zsnes to play on my console super nintendo ( using super UFO 8 pro)