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- Is it really worth it to buy an older motorcycle? Buying an older motorcycle can be a great experience but also comes with risk. In this video I ride my older 2000 Road King Classic motorcycle on some amazing Michigan backroads. We talk about the risks of buying an older motorcycle and what you can expect and how it can become your favorite motorcycle anyway! Buying an OLDER Motorcycle is Worth it
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Man the classic looks of a Road King are just the best. Buying older bikes shouldn't scare anyone off. Just give it a good once over and take good care of it and it will last! Plus older bikes have a soul and a feel that newer bikes just don't! Good topic!
Totally agree…..feel the soul when I ride the king!
Classic roadkings are the best
@@BoDean52 Greetings from Crimea, Russia! I have a 2005 Road King - it's great. I bought it from an insurance auction in the USA, brought it back, repaired it and now I'm enjoying it. It's all quite expensive here, but it's worth it! Harley is the best motorcycle for me! 🤩
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I hope so i just bought a 2006 RK Classic. Changed the cam shaft tensioners and inner seal on the transmission side
Check your spokes for looseness. Tap them while they're up on a center lift and listen for a difference in the sound. Tight spokes ring while loose ones sound flat. I have a 98 FLSTC and I check mine usually the day after the ride to make sure they're tight for the next ride. Grease all fittings including the neck bearings. Change fluids every 3k miles. Check spark plugs for proper fuel mix. Lean will burn up your pistons. Buy a temp gauge for your oil. Oil your clutch, brake cables. Check belt tension on final drive. Check your charging system for amperage output. Must be above 12.5 amps. Check all lights work before riding. You don't need a ticket over a blown bulb. Check all bolts, screws, and nuts are tight every 1000 miles. That's my checklist...
Love it and thanks for the great advice!
When do you find the time to ride? Every 3k miles new fluids? Every 1k all bolts? I am 60 years old and ride harleys for over 35 years. Only important thing is to warm up the engine and remember its a cruiser. This gets you home!
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You just convinced me not to buy a Harley. Lol
Yes, would definitely consider an older bike. 20 year old bike, $10k with $2k worth of repairs vs $35k for new? Yep, them mature ladies are worthy of your attention!
Exactly.......makes me want to go find another
On road ABS and traction control are very relevant and life savers. That's my cutoff.
Definitely enjoy an older ride. Bikes have personalities, and the older the bike the bigger the personality. I do all my shorter “get out and clear my head” rides on a 2004 carbureted bike. Turning the fuel on, pulling the choke, letting the bike warm up, feeling the engine smooth out - brings me right back to being 18 years old when all bikes were like that. You can’t buy that feeling off a showroom at any price today. No throttle by wire, just a cable connected directly to the carb, gives a more mechanical/connected feel to the bike. And you have to lube and adjust the throttle cables, and that gives a little “connection” to the bike - you take care of her and she takes care of you.
I don’t look at tires as an extra cost, but factor that into the price, assuming that I’m going to start out on new rubber. Finally, you get the “treasure hunt” experience for aftermarket parts. It’s not just point and click for bolt-ons for your new bike on the interweb. It may be a bit harder fo find that certain seat, or bars, or whatever, but when you do, it’s much more gratifying. And since it’s not your main ride, it’s not life or death if it’s down for a while waiting on a part.
All well said, it takes two seconds when I sit on the king and fire it up.
Great read. Exactly how I feel and like the way you put it in words. Thank you 😊
2000 fxst carbed customized 56000 miles so far and still my baby. Alway will be i never will have injection or throttle by wire. On my table every winter every bolt checked and all maintenance done ready for all the rides I can.
I'm 74. I bought a 2003 Fat Boy carbureted beauty with only 789 miles on it. I have not seen it in person but the dealer said it is what it says it is. I'm sure it will have plenty of issues, but I have not owned Harley's since the 70's and 80's. Time to get my tired old ass back in the saddle.
That would be great to see you ride again!
64 years old . Had many rides . 2001 RoadKing Classic touring is still the best bike I've ever had .
Dealing with Magnetti Marelli fuel injection is the biggest issue .
But it's so freaking cool to ride .
I will never sell my 2000 road king and just like you said they are amazing!
i agree had 2004 roadKing Classic best touring 😎👍
I have to agree...I'm 54, started riding at 16. I came off the rice rockets/sports bike in 2001 after Military Service, bought my first cruiser in 2001 and loved it since. I actually have a 2001 Road King Classic with the white walls! Absolutely love it!!!!
99 RoadKing Carb Conversion..Now I'm happy..that MM was a leaking 👎 nightmare..went to Goodridge fuel lines..they held up for a couple years..then the O-Rings have to be replaced.at least they could be repaired,unlike the stock fuel lines
Switching to carb is easy enough. For me i had a coworker weld the bung on for the petcock. Now my 99 electra glide runs better and has more power. Go figure.
My ‘07 Road King is almost 15 years old though I’m the original owner. It’s only been in the shop once for a simple problem that was fixed under warranty. Close to 70k with no other problems except for 1 that was self inflicted. Like a dummy I never changed the brake fluid and as a result last spring I ended up rebuilding all 3 calipers. Got the required parts and followed the procedure in the excellent Harley shop manual. Brakes now work great! That would have been pricey if I had needed to take it in. As long as I have decent service information I’ll work on just about anything so that definitely helps… I think the big risk in buying an older bike would be if you don’t know how or if it was maintained. I keep a log with all my receipts for oil, filters, etc. should I ever desire to sell my bike. Unfortunately there is just the one receipt at 14 years for brake fluid! 😜
Been a great run with that bike for sure and Harley Service Manuals are great!
I just bought the 07 cvo 4 mounts ago. Put 6 thousand miles on it. Just love that bike. Great handling and power
An 07 is new to me, lol
Nice Craig! I have an 08. By chance does your bike shake like crazy, is that normal? Thx
Change the motor mount You can do it Not a bad job Drag makes it. Just make sure you get the heavy duty version
Bought a '02 Sportster in 2017, on eBay, and took the risk. The price was right and figured that if it needed any TLC and additional $$ thrown at it, I'd be ok. Had 8,300 miles on the clock and only replaced the tires and had a 5,000 mile service done. Installed LED lights all around and had the brakes serviced in 2022. This year, and with 21,000 miles on her, I did a 20,000 mile service, replaced the petcock, changed the fork oil, and serviced the carburetor. That's all I have invested in it. Runs like a champ and love to ride her. Thumbs up for buying an older bike.
Sounds like you and I are very similar, we hit the jackpot with some cool bikes
I have a 1998 Harley-Davidson Road King with a 123,000 miles on it. It has the Magnetti Marrelli fuel injection. Most of the issues I've had with it have been sensors. The cam position sensor, crankshaft position sensor and throttle position sensor. This were all issues that I can fix myself. It still looks and runs absolutely great.
That’s great to hear, thanks for sharing!
Buying a new one 30 to 40 thousands hell no got me a nighttrain 2002 spent 2000 thousands on it ive had it for a long time love it
get it, I may never buy a new bike again
First Harley 82 shovelhead super glide bought brand new. 2nd bike 05 88 ci police bike.... Destroyed by idiot in a Ford.! Replacement bike 08 Ultra Classic 9000 miles on it. Completely stock, like new,, Striped all the old man crap off it. Did the detachable tour pack conversion. Dropped it an inch, new seat, new wide white wall tires. Looks old school. Kinda like a Street glide or more like a Road king with a fairing 😊👍 Love it turned out nicer than I could imagine. ❤
Best of both worlds .
Nice and it is so much building it isn't it
Just bought a 2005 RK last month off craigslist. 8917 miles on it for $5500. Looks new! Replaced a few chrome pieces here and there and I did a 3 hole service and lovin' it! Owned a Dyna at the time and sold it which covered RK price. Was gonna flip it but hell, think I'll be keeping her. Deals are out there if you look. FJB
That's great Rick and congrats on the King. I am always looking just in case...
There is something very pure about riding the older Harleys. Simplicity!
Totally agree
I just bought a 09 Road King Police department retired. It's not pristine by any means but, I runs good and it was really inexpensive. I'm retired so I can do most of whatever it needs. I have a good local Indy shop for what I can (or don't want to do) I also have a 07 Heritage Softail Classic,my first Harley and I love them both. I just plan to enjoy as long as I am safely able. Good video! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks Eddie and you have two great bikes! Hope we both get many more years to ride!
Old, new, Harley or Honda, Yamaha, or whatever. Something about anything with a engine. Love it.
The addiction is real isnt it!
It’s no different than buying a nicely restored classic automobile. Road Kings are beautiful motorcycles. Can’t wait to own one someday. 😎🤙🏾
I totally agree with you and hopefully you’ll be able to find one that works for you. It took me a year to find this one.
Just bought a 92 Heritage. Bike has character for sure.
They are great bikes, would have went that way if I didn’t find this bike
Another great topic Bodean. I've never purchased an older bike, but as you know I do own one. I bought it new in 1988 and would never consider selling it. There's nothing new that compares with the look, feel, and sound of an old bike.
I guess one con I can think of is that if you run across an issue that you cannot repair yourself, most Harley shops won't touch an old bike. You have to find a good indie.
Hear ya there and do have a good local guy if needed, just had him look at CAM Tensioners. Very much with you, the feel of this old King is incredible
So I was on my 4th motorcycle when I got my 99 Sportster. I had looked around and local dealerships don't sell old iron. Luckily the Internet showed me some options. I wrenched professionally so a bike needing work wasn't my big concern. Harleys are easy to work on and have a good design language. It is definitely a risk, my bike had been down, had crappy electrical repairs, worn parts and leaks galore. So parts are plentiful and so is the knowledge base. I'd say the biggest reward is the education of learning how to work on all parts of your motorcycle. You can't replace that knowledge. Also one of the main reasons was the lack of a visceral experience riding a newer motorcycle vs the Sportster. It's always an adventure.
Great comment and I agree, huge benefit to be able to wrench on your bike yourself!
Absolutely WORTH IT!! These are absolutely GREAT machines! I rode these TC’s since they were whipping up their first storms against the Evolution devotees. The Evolution was great too, but the TC 88 was just “there” and ready like the Evo could not quite do. I still ride mine too. It sits proudly next to its Softail Deluxe sister and his Mil 8 cousins in our Street Glide and our Road Glide. Nothing sounds like a TC either and if you hop them up to big bore and cams they leave no face without a grin. And if you feel the need to there is a great 6 speed Baker available for the earlier 5 speed transmissions. No fears on the older TC’s!
Totally agree and still love this bike as is!
Last year I bought a 2016 Road Glide ultra from an individual. Due to health reasons (three back surgeries) the guy couldn't ride the bike. He bought it new in 2016 at New Orleans HD. The bike only had 2500 miles on it when I bought it. According to him he kept it for those years hoping he would get better with different surgeries and could ride again but eventually decided to sell it. So, I got a basically new bike for about $15,000 less that a new one. I have a 2007 Fatboy I bought used as well. No problems out of either bike but I know there can be problems with anything used regardless of what it is. Ride safe.
Thats a great deal and found a good home I am sure!
I’ve had many bikes over the years and have only bought one new. I have never had major problems with any of them BUT you do need to know what to look for when buying used.
My number 1 tip… make sure the VIN stamped on several places all match the title. I had a family member buy an out of state Road King a few years ago and the previous owner had replaced the frame and didnt say anything. He also said it was “sold as is”. Needless to say, the bike couldn’t be registered at home and he had to part it out.
GREAT point in matching VIN
Older bike? I got a chuckle out of this! My every day ride is my 1946 Harley EL...that is a 61 cubic inch knuckle head. I have ridden it since 1994. I have ridden it from Ohio to Sturgis and numerous trips to Antique Motorcycle Club events.
Also in the building are a 1933 Harley VL ...74 cubic inch flathead with a sidecar for bringing my wife with me. Three years ago we were on an AMCA road run in Cherokee, N.C. We trailered there and then spent the next three days riding planned routes in the rain including the Tail of the Dragon.
Also there is 1952 Vincent Black Shadow, a 1962 Harley Topper scooter, a 1964 BMW with a sidecar that we keep in FL, a 1976 original paint Superglide, that is coming up for sale, and a 2014 Harley Low Rider. A super clean completely original black beauty that is also coming up for sale. In three years I have put less than 100 miles on it. Showing about 17000 miles. I have enjoyed your videos. Denny Corso
I just got home from a 700 mile round trip on my 1999 Road King...it ain't too old for anything...perfect bike for touring...I did do a few upgrades, but very few...she's low milage & well maintained...I'm 3rd owner & it had 12,500 miles on it when I bought it, it's over 24,600 miles on it now...I've had it just over 4 years now & the milage would be higher, but I've got 2 other bikes to ride to keep it a low milage classic for a little while longer...but that keeps it ready for road trips...although I do ride local on it too, but not as often...best thing about an older bike is that it's PAID FOR!!! Much easier to fix or maintain a bike that you're not paying notes on...
Totally agree and I’m the same I really ride my road glide limited on longer rides but nice to know my 2000 king can make it. Nothing better than a paid for bike
Change fork oil. Bleed brakes. Adjust flop on head bearings. Lube cables. Check wheel bearings. Battery. Check primary tensioner. Clean peatcock screen.
Sounds right…when should I bring it by? Thanks Brad!
Not sure how valid my opinion is since my 2000 RK is the only "bike" (owned a Can-am before) I have ever owned. The main thing I like outside of the bike itself is that I have a mechanic that knows my bike inside and out and tells me what stuff I need right now and what stuff can wait. With the newer bikes and going to the dealership I imagine they always find an immediate issue for you to pay for, lol. I have never even test rode a bike outside of the one that I have. When I go to the local dealership I often think about how much more powerful the 107's and up are compared to my 88 C.I. One salesman told me I would need a seatbelt on a newer bike coming from what I have now, lol. Godspeed
I am like you, have one guy that works on my 2000 RKC as well. We have great bikes sir!
I have owned my '98 FLHP for 22 years. Replaced virtually everything on it over the years. S&S V111, 6 speed gearset, etc... So it is basically a new bike. This year I bought a' 99 FLHRCI that had 25k on it and the FI was crap so I replaced it with a S&S super E. Leaving it basically stock and just ride it around town keeping miles off of my main bike, the '98. Only thing I can see would be an issue with an older bike is IF you're planning to cross country tour you would benefit from getting a bike with 6 gears. Weekend trips with 5 speeds are not an issue. I put 80k on the 98 with a 5 speed touring anywhere I wanted to go. 6 speeds weren't available much of that time period. The issue is IF your riding partners have 6 speeds you'll be pushing higher rpms to do the same speed.
All great stuff and having older bikes are fun for sure. I do have a 2021 Road Glide Limited for those trips and really use the Road King for around town. Both fun in their own ways. Ride safe!
Had zero hesitation Saturday buying a 2007 RK with 59k+ miles. Almost rolled 60k on the ride home. Got pages and pages of serice history at 3 different HD shops and it looks like everything has been done my HD mechs. A couple rocker box gaskets and some odds/ends seals and a couple batteries... regular stuff. I expect to roll past 100k before it needs anything much. This is my 2nd RK. Had a 1998 with 155k on it when i traded it, i believe. Only traded it for the wife to be happy with an Ultra but after she quit riding im happy to be back on a RK. No windshield, passenger backrest removed... its stripped and basic... like i like it.
WOOOOHOOOO...Congrats!
My 98 requires a mechanic, and my 21 requires a tech. If you can fix a lawn mower, you can keep an old Harley goin down the road.
Think you are right, I have not had many problems fortunately
Just bought a new to me 21 year old Yamaha full dresser motorcycle for pennies. The pure joy of riding an older completely paid off bike is just bliss. Now if I can just get my Harley in the same boat lol
HAHA...get that and the best bike is a paid off one, Enjoy!
Older bikes for sure,I have a 03 Heritage Softail Classic and this bike is amazing for long road trips,looks amazing and sounds amazing,the nostalgic look can’t be beat
totally get that and mine is a bike I will never sell
2008 Road King Anniversary Edition, 2019 Road King, 2017 Ultra Classic (destroyed in a wreck), 2021 Heritage Softail, 2021 Road Glide....and while I enjoy the new bikes. The M8 engine is quite an upgrade to the 103. But my 2008 only had the 96 ci. motor and ran great. It looked awesome, and for all the money I've dropped on new bikes, that 2008 would have suited me just fine. I sold bikes for a Harley dealer for about a year. The new bikes are good, but they have their problems. Harley took 3 model years to get the oil pump right on the M8. I love the Road King but purchased the full fairing bikes for the creature comforts. One of the first things you should do to a newer bike is change the cam bearing to a full metal replacement. While you're in there, you could do a full cam job, replacing lifters, etc. $ 3,000 for a shop to do. Older bikes often come with many nice upgrades, and you don't pay that premium charge for them. Enjoy that 2013. It is not really an old bike. It even has the Rushmore amendments on it. Oh...and be safe! My wife is from MI, and I am from IA - we now live in SC.
Really appreciate the great comment and I do like my 2021 Milwaukee eight, have not had any problems but I’ll never trade this road king
That's the beauty of having the world wide web at our fingertips....we can do a ton of research on a particular item and see if there are any known issues!...there is still the risk of not knowing what a previous owner has or has not done to said bike! Great video....stay safe...ride safe!!😎👍🤙👍🤙🇨🇦
That's for sure and I was the third owner of this bike and the guy I bought it from didn't know much about the guy before. Thanks and ride safe!
I have a thing for classic bikes so I've never owned anything but older bikes. You learn to spin a wrench. The cam tensioners on my '99 RKC held up fine. It was the ball bearings that the MoCo used on the early TC88 outer cam plate that gave me issues. They are notorious for grenading. One of my bearings was so degraded that the cam shaft was slapping the cam position sensor. After it killed a second cam sensor it became apparent there was an issue. I ended up gutting the cam chest, replacing all the bearings, cams and installing a screamin' eagle outer cam plate with hydraulic cam tensioners like the newer TCs have. Nine years later it's still running (knock on wood). Not as hard as it looks. Factory service manuals are your friend. Everyone should invest in one for their bike, even if you don't do all the work for yourself, it will give you the confidence to do more of it.
Agree on the manuals and you can get them on line even. Wish I had the skills you do and appreciate the advice Ken !
The Road King is one of the most iconic motorcycles ever built. Plus, it can a little a little of everything well. Long live the King.
I can’t agree more 🤴
Just bought my first Harley, a 2014 road king, I guess that's semi older now. Love the road king!
Congrats and that’s an amazing bike
My money was well spent buying an " older bike" There a learning experience moving up the chain towards something newer.
I think an older bike is good for newer and seasoned riders. With the cost of Motorcycle’s right now and interest rates, it’s the only way to go in my opinion.
I bought an 03 anniversary Last year.. All the previous owner did was change the oil so I’ve done some deferred maintenance it even had the original 20yo air filter on it 😩regarding the cam chain tensioners I spoke to 5 different Harley mechanic’s not 1 had changed any so I think it’s slightly overhyped that they all fail. But like I love it puts a smile on my face every time I ride it 👍
Interesting on the tensioners because when they looked at mine at 22,000 miles they looked great
Imagine upgrading your camchest and knowing that it’s not going to give you any problems! 😎 that’s how it feels
Just serviced my bike it has 52k klms .. pulled the cam cover off the tensioners had a very slight wear mark. Based on the wear it should be good for the life of the bike 🤷🏼♂️. I might check again in another 20k klm
Yes, very worth it. My older bikes have never left me stranded. Newer ones I had have. My 2015 when new I couldn’t get it in first gear. My 2017 when new pissed oil all over my leg 20 miles from home. Hated the 2021 for many reasons. I currently have a 2012 Road Glide Custom and a 2008 Road King Classic and neither miss a beat. Most reliable bikes I’ve had. My 2007 was very reliable. I assume you converted it over to hydraulic tensioners. Worth the money.
Totally agree and I love my 2000 Road king
I bought a clean 23 year old bike this year, and I've been really enjoying it. Ride it almost every day
There is something great about older bikes isn’t there. Ride safe
I bought 2007 Street Glide last year. So far no problems. It has 63k miles but it still runs great.
I love older bikes too!
Got a 98 road king classic, no payments just maintenance!
What a great bike!
It depends. Some like new all the time. Old or new, machines break when not maintained or owner not paying attention to clues. I have a 1970 FLH and 09 Road King. Original owner of both and no issues and both bikes been cross country with no issues. The Harley shops won’t work on the older machines. Find a trusty private shop. Thanks for posting
Thanks Mike and totally agree. I have a local mechanic when I need it for the Road King Classic. Enjoy your ride.
I bought one of my bikes back in Nov 2013, a 2014 Dyna Fatbob. Now this bike has had two top end rebuilds and a full engine case apart rebuild. Lol Totalling 134thou km on her now.. but I love it, she is a gem and I know her back to front... something of a connection you get with older bikes..
Totally agree with that!
@Bodean52 It was for me. I bought a 1994 H-D Electra Glide classic. It had 124950 original miles when I bought it. It is all original. It rides well. It does not leak oil. It does not burn oil. It makes good power. She is my daliy driver unless it rains.
Love it
Having a older bike vs a new one as my primary Bike....No monthly payments..dont have to carry full coverage insurance..In that being said older bikes do have issues that cost money but if you did your homework before buying and your smart about buying inexpensive aftermarket parts and you can do the basic maintenance yourself and you have a great Indy Shop mechanic you will pay alot less in the long run on it than paying those montly strokes on a new one...
A LOT to be said for no payments on any bike!
I ride a '97 FXD, and what you say is very true. I had to put money into the bike (ask my wife for how much - she knows), but I don't have that monthly payment or big insurance bill that comes with a new one. That being said, you have to know what kind of riding you want to do and plan accordingly. My old dyna can do highways speeds (stage two evo w/5 speed), but it isn't real happy there. But for secondary highways and taking in the sights while listening to that evo pipe music, I would put my old girl up against any bike out there. Different strokes.
Totally agree and I think for many purchases we need to buy for the riding we will do! Love having an older bike too
Never owned a new motorcycle currently ride a 2012 Road King which I love, before that a 99 Fatboy. Don't think most riders have the cash to just walk into a dealership and plunk down on a brand new bike so you're looking at a hefty payment for awhile unless you dropped a load on a down payment which could have covered the price of a used bike. Never had any serious repair issues (knock on wood) on either bike outside a stator replacement and rocker box leak on both bikes. For the money you save in the long run you can pay for repairs and upgrades...imo...and at my age (64) a brand new bike is out of the question, but I still want to ride, my used RK fits the bill for me.
Totally agree and now a days you can buy multiple bikes for the cost of new. Enjoy your ride
I like the character of the older HDs. I wouldn't buy one prior to the Twin Cam though because I believe it is a better product. I also prefer fuel injection. Enjoyed your video.
Appreciate that and there is just something about these older bikes that really make you feel like you’re riding a motorcycle
Of the four in the garage, we have 3 over 13 years old now, the oldest being an 05. What I like about them, is how basic they are.
Our 05 Bonneville for example, runs great not a lick of tech on it. You pull into a dealer and a 2022 has all the bells and whistles. I think everyone should have an older bike in their garage personally lol.
Totally agree and love my 2000 Road King!
You should do all the work on your bike yourself, unless you are a completely new rider who jumped into it clueless. Then you should do the work, but with the help and direction of an experienced mechanic you can learn from. Working on anything though is a pita and time consuming and I don't enjoy it myself, so I try to buy simple older bikes. The main disadvanage to a new bike is the parts for them are expensive and they are more complicated and difficult to work on, and you're struggling to keep them pretty and clean far more often then you do with an older bike that maybe you don't care as much about any more that it's top notch clean and pretty all the time 100%.
Tire age has never bothered me, and I've never had one failed from age, but when the tred wears out, you get down to the steel reinforcement and time to get them off whatever vehicle. The rubber does oxidize and age over time, but usually you only find tires that far gone on old cars and trailers that have been sitting unused or driven for a long time.
Great advice, and totally agree, thanks
New baggers start at 30k. I paid 6 for a bike with35k miles. Spend a few k and the bike is good for years. Buy new get a second job.
So true and worth it
Here in Germany a new Heritage anniversary is 32k, a 2007 Heritage anniversary with only 17000 miles on it was 16k.
Why would i buy a new one? The older one looks better and rides just as good for half the price , not to mention 32k is just ridiculous.
Totally agree and we could buy multiple motorcycles for the crazy new prices!
2000 fxdwg and 03 ultra classic here. Both ultra reliable.
I'd rather do occasional repairs then make huge payments and suffer great depreciation 😂
Amen to that!
Picking up the 2005 Road King in the AM, got rid of the 18 year old
Rubber, looking forward to riding her. My other 2 bikes are a 2001 & a 2011. Like the older simpler version of bikes. Less electronic Nannie’s and worries.
Totally agree that less is more, huge congrats on the bike!
97 Roadking 34000 miles UK to Germany holiday 3000 miles in two weeks never missed a beat
That’s awesome!
I actually prefer a carburetor on a bike. For some reason, I think they sound better.
Riding modes? Depends on how I turn the throttle.
Tires. My 2009 Honda Shadow Aero had the original rear tire from 2008, and the front was from 2012, but the tread still looked good on the 6000 mile bike.
I have had the bike for a few months now, and have put 2K miles on it now. Time to do a 8K service before I take it on long trips.
Have any trip planned Paul?
@@BoDean52 I have many trips planned, but financially I will not be able to attend most of them. I have all the time, but not the funds to go to them.
I got a 98 95th edition. Came with the original tires. Finally replaced them after a year of riding. Now it’s leaking from the rocker cover. Fuel lines were leaking when I got it. Fixed those myself and will do the rocker cover gaskets myself.
So is that an offer to bring my bike over for any repairs needed at your place? 😂
I ride a 02 FLHR got 52000 on it; running like a champ still. I'd go anywhere on it. Brand new model can break down.
That’s a great point. Something to be said for having a bike that has some miles on it and you know how it performs. Also, I think less electronics helps.
Been riding since the very late 60s and only owned one new bike -- and the clutch cable came apart on the way home from the dealer. Other than that, all my bikes have been low/mid mileage used ones, and I'm good with that...
Buying an older bike is definitely better for me. I spend my summers on my boat. Fishing. Swimming. Etc. it’s my first hobby. Buying a new 35,000$ Harley that’s gonna get ridden once in a while isn’t the move for me Beautiful road king by the way.
I totally get that, no sense in buying something that expensive when you can get something good used if you’re not gonna ride a ton. Thanks and I love the road king as well.
I would never buy a twin-cam I would not take for free. They have so many expensive parts that need to be replaced that I can't afford to sink
I have been fortunate so far Frank. Ride safe
@@BoDean52 a mechanic at an independent Harley shop was showing me how they adjust to camp changed and serviced the campaign in the twin cam. He said Harley-Davidson designs if so they would get work every 40000 MI. Nevermind a pressfit crankshaft as well as the Chinese camp late and inadequate oil pump just too many expensive parts to replace
My older and other bike is a 1993 Yamaha FJ1200. I use it for my short rides around town and bike nights. Pretty basic it that’s what I like about it. Front tire and battery is all it needed to get on the road this year.
I road my Road King with the same idea, local bike in general
A 2000 Road King isn't too old - it's too new. The best Harleys were made between 1992 and 1999. The TC wasn't made to be a better engine but rather to meet increasing environmental requirements and to be cheaper to make.
Fair comment for sure 👍, I prefer old school Chef
@@BoDean52 That said, I focus on the worst bikes they ever made - the shovelheads. Why? The challenge.
@@ChefPelle That is the spirit. I ride a 1996 carburated Roadking, still going strong.
@@mavic6155 I found a 1996 Harley for very cheap price , do u think I should go for it ? What should I look for to make sure its still solid ?
@@AminHajou Hi Top G. Let the motor run and check the color of the exhaust gasses. If it is blue, oil is burned and gaskets or piston rings might be ready for replacement. White is probably just moisture from a cold engine. Check the visual state on the outside. Are the bolts rounded or screws damaged due to a lot of work on it? These are bikes that might have had different owners through the years, and you can litterlarly see how it was treated. Ask how the maintenance was done, professionally or by the owner. Both are fine, but when done professionally you can ask for the repair bill/specifications. Some owners keep their own maintenance history as well. They are strong bikes because of their simplicity. Just let it run and try it driving around for 15 minutes. Most expensive repairs are those inside the engine so be sure that engine is OK by testing it with a test drive. After the test drive, check underneath the engine on your knees if there is oil visible, which could indicate broken gaskets. Also after the test drive, check the engine visually if there are any leaks visible. If you know someone with a Roadking or other Harley model, maybe he can join you when visiting the bike. There are a lot more things, but in general, get a visual impression of it, drive it, and ask for maintenance history and expected upcoming maintenance. Greetings fro The Netherlands in Europe.
I've had nothing but older bikes (save one). Bought used, low mileage at great deals. I mean 30+ bikes of all types (cruiser, adventure, sport, touring). Never got a lemon. The one bike bought new was a 2001 R1150GS; put 125K on that bike and sold it on to another happy owner
Right on!
I have a 2003 RK i paid 6 Grand, Had Kane's Harley do the Breaks and Tires, that was 2017, going strong, I swap days with a 2010 Sporty 1200, I am now looking for another older Harley, Deluxe, Heritage maybe, or another RK(2013)
All great bikes, I definitely love this old road king
Love your videos, as l myself riding an older Road King . Just love it , added the mirrors like the ones on your 2 up 😎😎
Thanks sir, really means a lot! Love our Road Kings!
2004 Roadking the cams looked fine but I was so paranoid I changed to Hydraulic cams , adding $2500.00 do I care no. Keep riding
I know it’s been 3000 miles since I had them checked and they told me I would be good to not look for another 7000 but I am a little paranoid as well.
In real life the "risks" are minimal and many buyers have worse problems with new bikes. I've wrenched since the late 1970s on multiple brands. HDs are easy to learn if you make the effort and that includes buying or downloading the factory service manual. I taught my bro to do tensioners then he taught his bro and both worked out fine. BTW when I check tensioners they get replaced since the labor is trivial at that point. All it takes to learn is deciding to learn.
I love my 2002 RKC especially when the white walls are clean 😂
I hear you there
I ride a 1996 Heritage Softail. Carburetor Evo. Do my own mechanical work. Simple bike for an old simple guy.
Love it, old Heritage bikes I do not see much of anymore.
My buddy has a 2009. It just WORKS! All the crap talk you hear about Harley. Well, his just runs and runs. 56k miles! Perfect.
Exactly….. tons of those folks never had one.
Any bike new or old will cost you money.Repairs,accessories,maintenance,upgrades are being done by Everyone…….nice bike !
thanks and you are right on
Maintenance and smart easy riding. A bike will last a long time. One bike I own is 48 yrs. old. Still miles of smiles. My H-D is going into yr. Six with 58,000 miles. My 14 yr. old Russian rig, 68,000 miles.
that's awesome and totally agree
Even with TH-cam's compressed audio that bike sounds badass in my headphones
Thanks and I love the sound and riding this bike!
hmmm,, lets see, last year I bought a evo 1996 Fatboy for 4k, needed tires,wheel bearings , seals, brake pads tune up,, etc,, was worth it to me! shes a mover and a looker
All worth it, right
Hey Mr Bo..I like getting new stuff for my bikes. Maintenance is forever on everything rt.. it's the trade I make for collecting so much stuff. I see another set of revo's in your future my friend 😎🍻 don't fight it.. you know you want em 🤣
Not going to be much of a fight
Been riding over 35 yrs, but I just bought my 1st Harley Its a 1995 ultra classic
Exciting.....enjoy it!
In the fall of 23 i bought a 2019 street glide.i saw this bike sitting in a bmw dealership.$19,000 with 2000 miles.....yep an oil pump that who ever had this knew the pump would be replaced.and traded it in.now oil pump back plate and knew 465 cam $2300 total 21,000 .in2019 the bike cost 23,0000.
never go down do they!
It’s worth buying an older motorcycle if you know what defects the bike had, so you know what you’re getting into. Some have none, some have many. Choose wisely.
Great advise brother, hope your well
That Road King looks and sounds so good on the road! ✌️
I do love the sound of my King.....need it as a ring tone 😂
I love my 08 Road King..... Just don't drive it enough. You must be near Chelsea, I know where that farm museum is. LOL
Road Kings are amazing bikes and yes, I was in Chelsea, one of our favorite towns
Hey all, i'm a bit late on this video, but i just saw it while hanging arround youtube !
I'm French (no one is perfect) and i have a 2005 RK with 100k kms (wich is something like 65k miles if i'm right ?) and i enjoy it everyday.
We, occidental owners, have the habit to change motorcycles much often than our wives (maybe a consequence ? 😁) and we don't really taste the real sensation to get old with our bike and ... that's a shame !
If i had to buy a M8 114 with 30k euros or keep my old bike ... you have the answer !
What a great comment and who doesn’t love French people. It’s so funny that I’m reading this comment because I filmed the video today about how often I actually change motorcycles and cars. Almost my entire life it’s been a flipped them out before I need to change the tires, but now maybe I’m a little changed even though the new bikes look pretty good.
I totally know where you are there. I thought it looked familiar.....then you went by the church. Yup -- you're a Michigander! (I am in Stockbridge)
Howdy neighbor, I do ride up that way a lot
My evo Heritage turns thirty next year. I wouldn't trade for ANY newer bike.
Don’t blame you a bit, nice bike!
Harley’s are not that difficult to work on. If you are mechanically inclined, able to read/understand a service manual, willing to buy/make whatever tools you are missing, have a place to do it, and are willing or have the time to devote to the project.
Like many who grew up in the late 1960- early 1970’s, I spent my time on hunting, fishing and various projects on my own personal automobiles (I didn’t have video games). As I grew older and started raising a family while my income continued to rise, there simply wasn’t the time or inclination to work on my own stuff unless I absolutely had to.
Now I am retired, have a lifetime of tools accumulated and have a lot more time than money coming in these days. I’m not inclined to spend the money for ESP’s or paying someone else to do something I’m capable of doing myself.
Other than the time and budget modifier, the cost of carrying ESP’s on my motorcycles was a wasted effort. The parts alone for work I’ve had to have done never came close to that of an ESP. Now if you add an HD Mechanic’s labor that plus the time involved, it was probably a decent deal.
The newer bikes with their ECM’s, electronic fuel injection and rider safety features can be a little intimidating, however, learn to pull the diagnostic codes (it’s easy) and with a service manual there is very little that requires you to take it to a mechanic.
The older bikes with ECM’s and electronic fuel injection where Harley is “obsoleting” parts and no aftermarket company has taken up the slack yet can be a problem. You might find yourself either parking the bike until parts are again available, or spending a LOT of money converting it to a carbureted system.
If you have the time and desire to do your own work, don’t be afraid of older bikes.
Do you have one of the best comment of the year award, thank you for that. I totally agree with you and it’s funny how where you’re at in your life dictates a lot that you do, working on your bike, or going out with the boys, etc. The ECM‘s do throw a wrench in a lot of things and I’m about two years away from retirement, so look forward to where you’re at
2 weeks ago sold my '05 FLHRSI....and bought a '98 FLSTC.
Huge congrats!
txs for the expertise and heads up!
sport bikes inspect the motor well owners especially kids rev and race those things and then want top dollar resale!
for those of you that arent aware that is called "endowment effect" i own it so it is worth more to me!
A few years ago I bought a Suzuki with 3200 miles on it that had been (reportedly) garaged its entire life, and didn’t think to look at the dates on the tires. They looked pretty decent with lots of tread left on them. But then it dawned on me to check a couple weeks after I bought it and found that they were 13 years old. I immediately swapped those puppies out. 😵
Exact same issue here, I never would have thought about it!
B4 watching video: If you're a pretty good MC mechanic or you have sufficient disposable income to keep them up, they can be great values.
I totally agree and have zero regrets about buying this 2000
Having a new bike has risks too. Warranty breakdown, poor quality control, high shop prices. Older bikes may cost some in repairs, but a thousand in repairs should always be expected with any older vehicle. How much do you spend maintaining your late model daily driver car/ truck? There are lots of professional shops in medium sized metro areas that are happy to wrench on them at RESONABLE prices. You didn't check the tire codes??? Come on Man! Ten years is the rule of thumb. You should always expect tires and a battery replacement and try to factor that into your purchase nego every time.
Good feedback Dave
I think that your remarks about having a cool older bike, which looks and sounds good, can outweigh any disadvantages associated with purchasing one in the first place.
It does help of course if you’re reasonably handy at working on bikes, however you can always take them to a dealer too. ✌️
nah stealerships aint worth it unless youve got money to throw in the garbage, just buy some japanese bike and save ur money
Mine is totally worth it! Keeping them rolling is the key.
I always buy used Harley’s privately. Otherwise I couldn’t ever afford a Harley. They have priced out the average guy. These dealers price their used bikes as insane as the new ones! So instead of hating Harley’s bec I won’t pay the prices I find good deals on used ones. Found a 2016 with only 9k miles on it and bought it for 11,500 ( heritage softail classic). Dealer had same bike used with 55k miles on it and wanted 14k 😂😂😂😂. That’s crazy ! So I love the machines, it’s not the machines fault, but I don’t like the dealers and company much. I stay away from them
My last one was a 2002 Dyna wide glide with a carb on it. Rode it for years and never had a single issue with it
Smart way to get good bikes
I realize that this video is a year old, but I bought a new Harley off the show room floor. Some things were covered by the warranty when the bike had issues. But ALL bikes cost money. The money that I throw at my old truck doesn't even come CLOSE to the cost of a new one. That's why I'm looking for an older Harley now. I would be no more worried about buying an older Harley than I would a new one given enough research and a mechanic checking it out before I bought one. Having said that, does any one have opinions on the right year EVO/Road King to look at?
I am with you and same for vehicles too. I have a 2019 Ram 1500 the dealer will give me what I paid for it but it is 70k new, pass!
I miss my 97wg, but it just didn’t fit my short arse.
Was a great bike, felt like riding a dragon!
I will say this some parts where no longer available and we’re a special order$!
I’ve been fortunate on this bike with parts so far and hopefully that continues because it is a riot to ride
I've ridden a number of bikes from a range of years, and I gotta say... These older machines have a charm that newer bikes just do not have. I ride an '08 Bandit 650, it's not new but it is modern enough to where I despise the fuel injection, the throttle is very on/off at low revs, same as every other FI bike I've ridden. Can't tune it or even adjust the idle speed without needing to hook up a computer to it, ridiculous. I dread to think how unserviceable these brand new bikes are with all the digital BS. I'll definitely keep my wits about me, but I'm probably gonna sell my 650 and get a '97 Mk1 Bandit 1200 as I'm looking for a bit more grunt and better serviceability. Old bikes are just pure motorcycling imho, no unnecessary distractions.
I totally agree and just feels different when you ride, hard to explain if you do not have one
Looking at buying a 97 electra glide, evo motor , 60,000 miles. Runs amazing.
That sounds pretty awesome, good luck with that
Love my 2004 Vulcan 1500 classic
29k miles
Nice!
Yep by older…….YOU can work on it especially if it’s carb equipped……..FHD!
For sure and love this bike
2003 glide...Bought her new. Now 113k mi on her still running strong.
Nice to have a bike you know will last forever