The account of that lady just deciding not to even try to evacuate, and instead, merely sitting down at the piano with her child on her lap and playing a tune as the ship sunk beneath the waves invokes an incredibly poignant emotion. Heartbreaking.
@@ShallowApple22 While I think I understand the point you were trying to make... a woman completely giving up on her will to survive and opting to take her child down with her doesn't exactly fit the notion of "maternal instinct" in my mind. Her doing everything she possibly could have to save her child against all odds (even if it meant sacrificing herself, or something along those lines) would be a much better example of "maternal instinct," in my opinion.
Imagine how terrifying it must have been to be trapped in the ship when the lights went out. Stuck in pitch black, no way out, cold, wet, hearing water pouring around you. Must have been one of the worst ways to go.
@@SupramanTRD It happens. A cargo ship sank and three days later divers were sent recover bodies and they found the cook alive in an air pocket. The divers were wearing cameras and its an incredible video th-cam.com/video/BtE6ZyHis8k/w-d-xo.html. I think the man despite three days in the dark ended up being "ok" and actually eventually became a trained diver himself.
I've watched that Frank Prentice interview before, and it's just haunting every time. The look in his eyes and his voice trailing off as he lives that horrifying night all over again in his mind as he tells what he saw and heard. The true horror of the _Titanic_ just hits completely different when you hear the accounts of the people who were actually there watching it happen right in front of them.
@@cyberquasar2267 one of the ladies in one of the forward port boats said the screams of those dumped out of the aft well deck were the most horrible sound she'd ever heard-then she paused and amended her statement: the screams were the _second_ worst sound she had ever heard-the worst was the _silence_ that eventually replaced them. Three years later, that same sentiment would be echoed by a number of witnesses to the massacre of RMS _Lusitania's_ passengers and crew off the southeast coast of Ireland.
Witnesses recounted that there was no sense of panic for a long time even while Titanic was sinking because many, even crew members, assumed the ship would not actually become totally submerged. It was only towards the end that the survivors who were in the lifeboats said they could hear those on the upper decks screaming and wailing.
Yep, even after the ship went vertical people where thinking/hoping the stern would just float there. It wasn't until the stern started it's descent that people realized it was really going to go down.
Interestingly, if the Titanic had actually hit the iceberg straight on, the ship most likely would have floated and survived its journey to NY (albeit much more slowly) because only the first watertight compartment would have flooded, instead of the five which sunk it.
I feel so bad for the crew. It must've been so stressful and heartbreaking having to help panicked people onto a life ship when you know there will probably not be enough for you.
In a weird way, hearing that the 3rd class people died of just plain negligence rather than outright hostility makes me even sadder. It's one thing to be see and ignored, but it's another thing entirely to just wait and wait for someone to come help you and realize that you've been forgotten.
I don't think that it was a forgotten because they didn't matter type situation, but more of a you can only focus on what's directly in front of you type situation. It's not like the crewmen were just waiting around thinking lol.
It takes away some of my empathy for them. Instead of taking responsibility for their own safety, they slowly made their ways onto the deck by being chased out by the water. It's harder to feel bad for someone who just shrugged and waited for death
Also, a lot of the 3rd class were immigrants that didn’t speak English well. So not only were they forgotten, but those people who didn’t understand the language literally didn’t have a clue what was happening until they saw the water rising.
A horrible fate that I've contemplated often. The thought of being down below as the ship sinks. The angle of the room you're in increasing slowly, the creaking sounds as the structure strains, furniture crashing around you and the voices of terrified passengers. The thought of being huddled in a corner as everything goes dark, and the roar of water rushing ever closer is truly nightmarish. I'm also reminded of those who served on warships that were trapped below, and of the men who served on the Edmund Fitzgerald. I'm fascinated by seafaring vessels but terrified by the thought of such horrific scenarios. May all those who have been lost at sea rest in peace.
they were lucky with how the ship sank, level much of the time with a slight list, lowering boats was easy compared to how difficult it could have been, but there was just no rush to leave the ship until the last minute..and not enough boats but yeah, I'd rather freeze in the water than get trapped as it sank..possibly trapped in an air pocket miles down for hours or something..it's all a nightmare
@@wheelmanstan Granted, any air pockets would be gone after a few hundred feet due to the immense pressure even at that depth. I shudder to think what that would be like being squeezed to death in a pressure chamber. Yeah, given the choice, I'd be steppin off into the water to freeze vs the alternative.
@@ctg6734 I just remember that guy who survived 3 days in a sunken boat 100ft down. I'm guessing though the pressure put on Titanic probably made that impossible but..who knows, maybe some engineers got trapped in a void. I've seen Das Boot..and that's no way to go.
@@wheelmanstan Oh yes, I recall that situation as well. Amazing he was found alive! 100 feet is obviously doable. However, regular atmospheric pressure is around 14psi at sea level. The pressure at Titanic's depth which is something like 12,000 feet is 6000psi. The steel hull of the stern section imploded around 500 feet according to the video so there's no way any air could still be within at the bottom. But even if there could be a pocket of air, it would be under such immense pressure that any person inside would be killed by it.
For anyone wondering, while being trapped in the ship in an air pocket would have been surely frightening and horrific, it would have also been one of the quickest and most painless deaths possible that night. The implosion would happen so fast and violent you likely wouldn't have been able to know what happened.
maybe that's what it was like for the people who died in the Titan submarine on its way down to visit the Titanic on a sightseeing trip. Still, it's a horrifying way to die. God bless their souls. May they rest in peace. Amen.
Hard to imagine the pure terror and the sound must have been overwhelming, the sound of the twisting and snapping steel and the muffled screams going under, may they rest in peace and may we honor thier memories.
Ive always thought of the titanic as a deadly but relativly "peaceful" sinking, other than the ship snapping, i always imaged it was quite quiet and somber, when in reality, it was horrifically violent and loud and destructive, amazing video.
What is crazy about this tragedy is that a similar one happened in korea in like 2014 where a ship sank killing many children on a school trip and the captain was the first one off and everyone was informed to stay in their cabins which ultimately became their tomb. the only ones that survived were those who disobeyed orders went on deck and were able to get off the ship. absolutely terrifying to drown in a ship with no escape or hope in a closed chamber as your life ends.
I never realized how pointless the death toll on that disaster was until I saw the video of it from a helicopter, the ferry was in calm waters surrounded by various other vessels and the coast guard which had responded and the rescue effort should’ve been easy. It is not inconceivable that disaster could’ve had zero fatalities.
@@eriknervik9003 theres just something wrong with a culture that creates sheep people like that. It was tragic, but come on. you're on a boat and you start seeing more and more water, you get off it asap. Not sit around waiting for orders like a meat robot.
@@Teyore many cultures value obedience to authority, and while people think this is racist or ethnocentric, it’s really not. It’s simply true, there is cases where calm obedience to authority creates a good outcome as long as the authority is competent and making good decisions. But sometimes an authority figure like a ship captain is not up to the task and you need to be ready to exercise judgment. The cruise ship disaster in Italy a few ago had a pretty small death toll because the junior officers forced the captain to start making decisions and he just fled the boat and let the coast guard make all the calls
I am reading a book called The Loss of the SS Titanic, written by a male survivor. One of his bunk mates stayed in bed, disregarding the order to go on deck with a life vest on, saying it was foolish to leave the warmth for the cold outside. Granted, he likely didn't realize just how grave the situation was, but he was never seen again by the author.
I *highly* recommend The Other Side of the Night, a non-fiction book about the sinking of the Titanic, and in particular how the captains of The Californian and The Carpathia responded to the disaster.
@@tma4137She was RMS only after getting the contract to carry mail from the Royal Mail, otherwise SS. Granted, she carried mail for all her active life, but still "SS" is also correct. In fact, her lifeboats had "SS Titanic" on them.
Seeing the accurate literal photo realistic render it looks like a haunted ghost ship out of a nightmare. You should look it up if you see this reply its really new and we have never seen the ship the way we now can.
Titanic is more than just a film or piece of media and people often forget that. It was a real disaster that effected real people. This video does a great job highlighting the true terror that night. Well done as always, Mike!
@@Mataylor17The titanic was never once branded by White Star Line as "unsinkable" The closest of this was in a unknown newspaper where it says by Star Line that the Titanic was "as unsinkable as we could make it" they never said it was 100% safe or unsinkable. And in a way they were correct, Titanic was a very safe a well-made ship, the damage done to the Titanic would sink even modern ships.
Mike, this was a outstanding video. You showed respect for the people that died that night with your tone and narration. Thanks for keeping the memory alive of those lost that night.
This just an option, but I think many people who were trapped in the Titanic towards the end died because objects that weren't nailed down crashed into them or falling on top of them. It must have been truly horrifying. To be in the dark, to hear things crashing, falling around them. Truly a nightmarish way to die.
Ultimately, this is one of the few scenarios I’d never like to be in. The thought of being lost in a ship, as it plunged into the ocean, and into a sea of darkness. A maze of corridors that can either lead you deeper into the death pit, or allow you an escape. Bravo on the video, I believe this is the first that I’ve seen on this topic.
I've always had a fear of deep ocean ships because of this. I'm even hesitant to get on simple canoes or sailing ships on rivers/lakes. But I'm really not into any holiday cruise ships, passenger ships, and I had no intention of joining the Navy when I was 18. Some people love the water and are water people, that's cool, I'm not one of them.
@@John-ct9zs I love the water. I love pools and lakes, streams and waterfalls. Like you, I do not love going out to sea where you can't see or swim to shore. If the ship goes down there are so many ways to die. Freezing, starving, dehydration, sharks, drowning. And many people die by falling off cruise ships, as I almost did as a young teen. My parents went on a cruise and took me along. It's a secret that people fall overboard and the cruise industry basically is never held responsible if someone goes overboard. Yet another reason not to go on these ships. If it stayed in harbor, I'd be happy to enjoy the buffet's and amenities, but unfortunately you have to go to international waters so that you get a cheap price. I believe that's why cruises are much cheaper than if you had the same experience on land. Anyway, I'm giving you a mental high five for sharing my feelings. Others have called my feeling an 'irrational fear'. At least I know one way I'm not going out.
My grandfather was a British Home Child Orphan. Britain sold these children to Canada and Australia as indentured workers. He was 9yrs old and was told he'd be going on the Titanic ( steerage)with a group, he was so excited. But he caught the flu and he was delayed til age 10 on a later ship. He lived in Canada until age 96yrs, and was glad God kept him off the Titanic.
Not quite the same, but my grandfather and his siblings were going to be evacuated from the Midlands during WW2, and everyone got a physical and a dental check before hopping on the ship. My grandfather went through it all until it was time for the dental, had a massive panic attack and ran away- completely out of character. He didn't end up getting passage, and his brothers and sister wouldn't leave him behind so they stayed back with him. The ship carrying the evacuees was bombed or torpedoed, and most died. I'm only here because my grandad who was the most steadfast, calm guy his whole life... Freaked out.
Although a different disaster, talk of being trapped inside a sinking ship reminds me of Estonia, which capsized in the 90s. The passageway had a stair case at one end, but as the ship listed onto its side, that staircase became more like a set of monkey bars on the ceiling and only a handful of young and fit individuals were able to escape. Both disasters were truly horrifying.
Reading the stories of MS Estonia are real nightmare fuel. Just escape becoming literally impossible before most people knew there was a problem, but still having time to be tossed around in a listing ship and die screaming and in terror. Every survivor report I read dwells on the deafening wail of hundreds of terrified, dying people rising from the gaping corridors, pitched at an angle to make them impossible to traverse.
Or the Korean ferry boat from about 10 years ago, where all the high school kids were sitting in the passageway recording video with their phones and talking to their parents before it rolled over and they all drowned, as the captain and most of the crew left them behind to die.
Thank you for a great video on this subject. As a young man, I met Edwina Trout Mackenzie. She was 98 to my 26. Edwina saved a baby, Asaad Thomas, the eldest brother of a coworker and friend, Marjorie Thomas. I knew Edwina until her death at age 100 and I attended her funeral. She was an amazing woman and loved to dance around her living room to songs from that period. Such fun and wonderful memories. She passed December 4th, 1984.
In 1963 there was a lady in my neighborhood who was in her survived the Titanic. Although she was just a child when that occurred said, " It was terrible, just terrible." She didn't say anything else. She added no details of her experience. Those few words have left a lasting impression on me.
@joetroll9605 Chivalry? Are you aware of how many men made it into the boats? Quite a bit. The plain truth of it all was it was a disorganized mess, and whoever got a boat got a boat. Your a real sh$t of a person to say something like that considering how many people died (including an awful lot of women and children).
The thought of being in your cabin and seeing seawater flooding in and hearing the ship breaking apart, knowing the end is coming very shortly, is truly the stuff of nightmares
Yeah, some were trapped inside air pockets but the moment the ship got to a couple hundred meters of depth those air pockets imploded. In the instance you're thinking of, I think it was that tugboat incident, she ship sank in quite shallow water so the air pockets didn't implode.
@@brick6347 pretty sure he found an air pocket in the kitchen and survived with a can of coke. Imagine being trapped underwater with nothing but your own thoughts and the aching feeling that you are going to choke to death on your own carbon dioxide soon. I sure do love ships, but I’ll be sticking with the ones above the water, thanks.
The Titanic's few remaining air-filled compartments would've imploded within seconds after the stern reached 200-600 m depth. Think of those compartments being like those of a submarine reaching its crush depth. There is no way they would've made it all the way down 2.5 miles/4 km.
I think being trapped inside a sinking ship is a horrible way to go. I often think about the poor young men on the USS Arizona, who survivors could hear banging on the Hull. Or the many thousands on the gustloff who never even managed to make it to the stairs. I remember watching a documentary about the lusitania and Dr Robert Ballad spoke about how they came to an open gangway door, a last ditched effort to try and escape the sinking ship. Inside further down they found two pairs of shoes, an adults shoe and a child's shoe. Really brings home what these people went through in those final minutes.
@ danielmaher152 But question……didn’t the 3rd class passengers have their own area where they can go outside? I know they weren’t allowed to mingle with upper class. But surely had had their own outdoor area.
I've been obsessed with learning about the Titanic ever since I was a small child. I remember one of the first books I ever read was in Kindergarten and was about the Titanic and its sinking. Though I knew people were trapped inside when the ship went down, this... one youtube video made me sit in silence and reflect in a way I never had over that sinking. To reflect on those stuck inside when the pressure finally imploded the ship around them... it's sorrowful to say in the least.
A great problem for the third class passengers might also have been the language barrier. Many were emmigrants from all over Europe, they simply could not understand any instructions given to them by the crew, as foreign language skills were not wide spread at that time.
Yep, that’s true for especially for third class immigrants, even though they’re were the richer kind of peasants considering they were able to afford a ticket to titanic period compared to people who could not.
Over a hundred years after and the horror of it all never ends. Whenever Titanic is mentioned the thought of what happened to so many on a 'brand new, safest, unsinkable ship' just never fails to make my stomach clutch I learned of the Titanic young, around 10, I'm 62 now, and it always gets me when I stop and think about it.
This very well may be the most haunting video you've ever made. Deeply, deeply impactful. I appreciate your factual look at this topic (like all the others you do). The steerage passengers were not maliciously corralled, rather they were neglected to death. I also liked how you used the clips from A Night to Remember, SOS Titanic, and Titanic; they really helped visualize the moments.
I think people underestimate (or perhaps I overestimate) the 'unsinkable' part of Titanic. Its not that people of the time thought Titanic literally wouldn't sink ever; its that they thought it would say afloat, disabled, long enough for rescue. In effect, the ship would become the life raft for the majority of passengers. I think this is reflected in so many staying behind, why so many life boats were partially filled, partially why there were not enough life boats in the first place, and to a degree why the sinking was so tragic. There are many many other ships that have sank and killed many people, but their stories are not told to the degree of Titanic's. I think that is due in large part to people of the time expecting Titanic to keep them safe until help could arrive, but it didn't. I just cannot imagine any other motivation for entire families to keep to their staterooms. Its not hard to imagine some sense of safety in believing the ship would stay afloat until help arrived. Especially considering the slow-ish sinking time of 2.5~ hours for a ship of the time with that kind of damage. So you are there in your stateroom asleep and there is a sudden knock at the door. You are told by someone (crew or other passengers) that the ship hit an iceberg and crew are taking care of the situation. Now your immediate thought is, we are going to sink and we must get out of here. Then you realize its been a bit already and the ship appears fine; the lights are on, there is no water, the forward list is gentle or almost imperceptible - and it hits you, the ship is your life raft. Best to stay put and let the crew handle the situation, stay out of there way, and be on the ready. Help will arrive soon. And since you didn't go up on top of the ship, you missed much of the chaos that unfolded there. An hour and a half later... bam, there is rushing water, lights go out, and the ship plunges into the ocean in what seems like a blink of an eye.
A thing I realized when I watched the 97 movie where it showed the Strauses in bed and the Irish woman putting her kids to sleep was the fact that many people had resolved themselves to go back to their cabins and just _wait_ for the water to come and envelop them, and this, to me, sounds like the most torturous kind of death during the disaster.
It doesn’t sound that torturous to me. It seems like a very calm way to die. My mother once put my little sister and I to sleep while doing everything she could to comfort us during disaster we had a feeling we might be killed by much like how the Irish mother did to her kids.
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACYDrowning is not a peaceful way to die…… After holding your breath for as long as you can, your body will finally force you to inhale. Obviously if you are submerged in water, you wont be able to breath, you will be inhaling water which will cause a burning sensation as the water enters your lungs. Your airways will close involuntarily to try to prevent more water from coming in. Eventually you will lose consciousness, and then eventually your heart will stop once your body reaches hypoxic convulsion, in which your body will start to convulse violently and jerk. After this, clinical death. This all can take up to 10 minutes, but tends to be faster with children.
My grandad knew a family who travelled third class to start a new life in the US, back then it took a while for the news of its sinking reaching home. It effected him quite badly, he was 11 and the children were his friends, communities were close back then so it must of effected many people. His parents decided not to emigrate to the US after the titanic sunk.
The poor people of Southampton, UK suffered immense loss when the Titanic sunk because most of the ship's crew were from that town and the surrounding area.
Mike....thank you so much for this video. I've been writing a novel about Titanic for the past few years, and have been continuously frustrated by the lack of clarity on whether Third Class passengers were deliberately trapped below decks. Not only did you provide the answer, but it was much more macabre and foreboding that I could have imagined. The immense suffering of those who died on the ship is something most people don't like to think about, and you've now shone a much-needed light on it.
I seem to remember seeing a documentary on one of the underwater expeditions that showed one of the submersible robots actually filming a Third Class stairway gate locked. I remember it mostly because the narrator mentioned how sad it was.
I have an extensive family history of my predecessors working at sea, ocean liners, cargo ships, navy etc. My grandparents came across at times people that worked on the Titanic, and the one thing they remembered always being told was how haunting the screams were, followed by a haunting silence post sinking. The screams were a death choir of doomed souls.
@@macwyll I saw that. That’s why I’m confused by this video. I wonder what the gate was that they filmed if there was no gate to keep 3rd class passengers down there.
@@MadHatterDJ-part of me believe it’s because the evidence from this video is cherry picked to avoid admitting there were some instances of deliberate prevention for marginalized passengers. bc I’ve researched the topic before as well and come across survivors recounting similar instances and even legal cases involved in near deliberate incompetence.
I love the fact you used footage from "A Night To Remember" something feels so real about it. Perhaps because it's black & white footage I don't know. Another brilliant one Mike and possibly more terrifying than being out on deck not being able to see what was happening.
A night to remember both the novel and the movie are a bit inaccurate and they kinda glorify lightholler even though he was the officer who took women and children first as women and children only.
One of the things to keep in mind when asking "Where are the bodies?" or "Why were so few recovered?" is because the CS Mackay-Bennett didn't make it out there until almost a week after the sinking, by which time many of them were widely dispersed, in particular by a storm that swept through the area, and carried perhaps hundreds of miles in some cases further south where they eventually sank beneath the sea. Even then, the Mackay-Bennett was so overwhelmed, it's likely they didn't get to all the bodies, many it did recover being given burial at sea, and only around a 190 were brought back out of 309 total. By the time the other two ships, Montmagny and Algerine got on the scene, the bodies either were too dispersed or sank and so they found only another twenty or so. But the German Nordeutscher Lloyd liner S.S. Bremen just a few days after Titanic's sinking came across an enormous number as far as they could see, the captain of the ship counting at least 150 bodies, likely much more than that as they passed through, but no one was stalwart enough to do a full counting of bodies.
@@kavinskysmith4094 That's one of them - there are two photos that purport to be of the fatal iceberg. Whether either really was is impossible to know for sure, but one was indeed photographed by a crew member of the Bremen.
This is distracting. We are talking Titanic on here ! Human gross errors, greed and total selfishness were at play in an ocean, of extreme cold, with growlers all all around - and the Captain dined on !! He knew there were no glasses at the crows nest! And Ismay was contemptible. He survived and gladly - died in misery. She should never have sailed with a weakened starboard side from the burning fire in the engine room. The cheap rivets used in place of steel ones. And inadequate bulkhead design. Only designed for a head-on collision. So how she earned the title 'unsinkable' is beyond comprehension.
@@joysynmonds9082 Oceanliner Designs has another video called "How did the Iceberg Sink the Titanic?" where he discusses exactly why the Titanic sunk.
@@joysynmonds9082 growlers were not "all around", the starboard side was not weakened by the coal fire, the iron rivets were not "cheap" and testing has proven that theory false. Bruce Ismay had little to nothing to do with what happened. You may have read some misleading information or watched a scene from a movie out to tell a story, not THE story. The height of the watertight bulkheads were not designed with only a head-on collision in mind, very few ships even today could withstand what Titanic and her sisters could handle. And Titanic never was called "unsinkable", nor even Olympic before her. The closest was in "The Shipbuilder" magazine 1911 issue dedicated to the Olympic where she was deemed "practically unsinkable", an important qualifier.
Did the Bremen pull any of the bodies? Also, with the sailor on the Bremen having photographed the iceberg, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume he may have also photographed the field of of corpses. As a photographer myself, it pains me to think of how many historically significant moments were photographed but never published…and thus lost to time due to the modesty and conservative nature of society before the general era of the Vietnam war. One the bothers me tremendously: On D-Day there was a videographer in one of the landing craft on Omaha beach, in the first wave. If he was with Capa, I don’t recall. Regardless, his footage captured the first wave onto the beach and was surely some of the most tragic video ever taken of American soldiers. It was deemed to brutal to be shown to the public, and was sent to the Smithsonian where it has been lost ever since. Even more video was recorded by a team of Army cinematographers, yet nearly all of it was lost when the majority of it was sent back to England with a courier in a duffel bag…which the courier accidentally dropped into the English Channel. Another bulk of it was destroyed when there was an incursion of water into the room on a ship where it was being stored. Surviving bits and pieces of what that team captured, have slowly been uncovered in recent decades. The world has likely seen only a fraction of the images captured during historical events, and surely many of these images are actually still surviving, tucked away into photo albums belonging to grandparents and forgotten about in dusty attics. The further we get from these events, the less likely it is that when those albums see the light of day the photos will be recognized. Prints from before the 1970s were often quite small and low quality, and at times making it that much harder to recognize the scene they show. With how little many people appreciate things like old photo albums, it’s guaranteed that every year we lose countless, priceless, photographs to the land fill.
Thanks for setting the record straight, Mike. Another great video. I live in a small town on the west coast of Canada and there's a Titanic survivor buried in the local cemetery. I visit his grave whenever I go for a walk through the cemetery and think of what he must have gone through that night in 1912. His name was Charles James Savage and he was a First Class steward. His brother-in-law was also a member of the crew and was a Third Class steward who was pulled from the water into a lifeboat, but didn't survive. Charles was in lifeboat 11. I don't know if he was also pulled from the water or made it into the lifeboat before it was lowered. There's a memorial for Charles on Find a Grave (apparently I can't include a link in a comment) which includes a photograph of him taken some years later. I think he has a very haunted look in his eyes.
I just looked him up, and yeah, I agree. He has that 1000 yard stare that many soldiers have after combat. I’m sure that night haunted him for the rest of his life, may he rest in piece.
RIP Charles .. that stare is a clear sign of PTSD to me. I can’t imagine how the Titanic survivors dealt with the trauma afterwards, the survivors guilt must be immense.
Perhaps the best video I have ever seen put together about this subject. It was educational, entertaining, but also respectful of those who perished. The interview played at the end really hit home. I'm definitely a fan of your videos.
This reminds me of the Sewol Ferry Boat incident. The school children in there weren’t trapped or anything. The captain told them to stay in their place and help will come. However, after he said that, he escaped on a boat and left those kids behind. They all stayed because they believed the captain will bring help soon but sadly, they all drowned.
It's so haunting seeing the ferry just sitting on a dock now. I can't imagine how much more horrifying it became after the students stopped recording it all.
@@SmartStart24 South Korea does have the death penalty, but there hasn't been an execution in years. The captain of the Sewol was sentenced to 30+ years in prison, and seeing as he's already around 70 years old, he'll die there.
Being trapped on the Titanic on the lower decks as she sank must have been terrifying. But other disasters were even worse than titanic the empress of Ireland and the lusitania as examples these were even more horrific due to the power on both ships to fail in only a matter of a few minutes. Not only are people lost or trapped on the lower decks but you are in total darkness which made escape impossible. May all of the lost souls in maritime disasters including the Titanic rest in peace and may they never be forgotten 😔
Yeah, the Lusitania went down in only 18 minutes and the power went out so fast that people were unable to find their way to the exits through the hallways and rooms and there were also people trapped in the elevators which had disabled.
@Sarah-rd3kj Believe me, there’s been plenty of disasters far worse than the Titanic’s sinking such as the sinking of the MV Wilhelm Gustloff, the tragic terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001, and Russia’s attacks on Ukraine.
My great great grandfather Mr Walter Hurst a greaser survived the wreck. One of my three relatives who worked on the boat. They’re story is fascinating.
Imagine being stuck in a room deep inside the Titanic at an incredibly steep angle with cold water and implosions happening all around you and not a single sliver of light, meaning you can't even see what is going to kill you first, the water, walls, implosions, hypothermia or falling articles... Honestly one of the worst ways to go. RIP all those who suffered that night.
Another factor to the lower survival rate among third class comes the age-old question: Which was greater: Physical barriers or the language barrier? Second Officer Lightoller also mentioned seeing the ship’s engineers emerge topside near the end. We know they were engineers because Lightoller recognized some of them from when they served on the _Oceanic_ alongside him.
Language for sure. If you can't read or write English it's going to be much harder to go up to the boat deck. You have no idea which way to go and being a natural maze it's worse
Did you know there are bullet marks on the steel concertina gates where 3rd class passengers were kept behind?. These could only have been fired from one of the officers. It's clear that they were prevented from going onto the boat deck.
In a nutshell: "There was no plan to keep the third class passengers from boarding the lifeboats and they weren't locked behind gates except the small gate and possibly a gate or two that would have been easy to get past. It was all very confusing and the first class passengers just happened to go first because they forgot to tell tell the third class passengers the ship was sinking."
Jared Owen just did a really awesome full animated tour of Titanic. It's both amazing to watch, and horrifying when you realize people and their children were scattered around in there as it went down.
I almost didn't watch this video. But shortly after I started it I realized there's a lot of good, new, fresh, realistic information that I honestly didn't know and I know a bunch about the Titanic! Thanks for your high quality!
Throughout my childhood, I had a recurring nightmare of being trapped in a sinking ship. The darkness, panic, water pouring in... it was utterly terrifying. I grew up in a strict home with no TV allowed (except daytime kids shows), so I wouldn't have known anything about being trapped in a sinking ship. Thankfully, as I got older, the nightmares stopped. However, I am still terrified of big ships (even being near one when it's berthed makes me feel nauseous), and will never go on a cruise. So why is it that I can't stop watching these videos?
Possibly how you passed in a past life ? If you believe in past life’s.. I’m kinda in between on if it believe in them myself or not but I do find it fascinating.. 😊
Remember that out of some 1,500+ victims, only a 300+ bodies were recovered. That leaves roughly 1,200 bodies unaccounted for, or 80% of those lost, or another way of looking at it: for every body recovered, four others were not. I suspect a great many were trapped inside when Titanic began her final plunge. That last plunge took less than 10 minutes from the bridge submerging until the stern disappeared, and happened so suddenly that it caught many by surprise. Anyone still below decks would have had no chance of making it through quickly tilting corridors and stairways that were no longer level and stable. Imagine being one in a crowd of people in those rapidly changing conditions.
From historians research only about 300 people were still inside the ship. The rest of the roughly 1200 victims were in the water and got dispersed across the ocean by a storm where they eventually sank or were eaten by wildlife.
@@sorrenblitz805 In other words, you are unable to name the specific research you refer to. That's what I thought. How would it be possible to "research" (ie, count) the number of bodies that were dispersed? The math doesn't work out if you look at the number of bodies recovered, and especially if you analyze the classes of those recovered bodies. Third Class is woefully underrepresented which strongly suggests they never made it to the open decks before the end.
Hearing that guy's story at the end like that makes you wonder who had it worse. The ones who died a violent death trapped inside the ship for the ones who survived and had to watch the horror.
I always love your content Mike but that ending was amazing 👏 you understood the seriousness of what was being said and didn't have to add a "Thanks for watching please subscribe" segment after. Good stuff
There are a thousand accounts of this event, and I've engaged in a good portion of them. Yet I find this one deeply vivid and more real than what has been told before. This is good work.
I saw that Frank Prentice interview in a documentary. It always struck me how dignified he was. The way I remember it is that I believe he was over 90 then and I think it was made just before he died and just before the wreck was found. I've often wondered how he would have felt had he lived to see her found.
I think the death that scares me the most in the Titanic disaster is _the rain._ If you were deep in a compartment and you failed to leave until it was too late, your death would be sealed before you actually perished. Water would come from above, making staircases inaccessible and water would drip from the ceiling. You'd be facing a wall from both sides and the trap would snap shut as the compartment flooded.
Most of my life I had countless thoughts, dreams, and vivid visual imaginations of what it was like to be aboard the ship experiencig all it's wonders, the moments leading up to the collision with the iceberg, all the frantic faces, and helpess feeling on being trapped inside all those compartments at the time of the final plunged and all the horrors that came after. I swear I feel as if all the gather souls of Titanic hunts me. Everything about the Titanic never fails to draw me in everytime it's a gravity that won't let me go I can't fully explain it but it is so.
Just heartbreaking, these were real people this is why the titanic should be respected and treated as a graveyard not a tourist attraction. My absolute thoughts to all the people aboard her RIP.
I only came across this channel a few days ago, and I can thank you sir for reigniting my interest in old ships that started as a seven year old watching the Titanic film. Loving finding out more about the other ships such as the Lusitania as well.
Excellent video Mike. My dad got me into Titanic and subsequently older ocean liners. More recently I've shared your videos with him and he has thoroughly enjoyed them. Thank you!
Absolutely chilling. No wonder movies have never accurately depict the myriad nasty ways in which sinkings kill. One of the most chilling scenes I recall came (strangely enough) from Alien: Resurrection. One of the pirate crew is caught by the ankle by a xenomorph whilst swimming underwater. She flailed, lost her breath, inhaled, and then went limp. It even shocked me and my better half, veterans of all manner of deaths on film.
Poseidon (2006) shows a man underwater like "forever" doing something heroic that saves others. Then he can't hold his breath any longer, inhales and drowns with his eyes wide open, his body jerking violently. The camera was right up close, capturing every convulsing moment, nothing hidden. I was shocked, and like you, I thought I had seen every kind of film death. That scene still deeply disturbs me to this day.
Little Cora getting stuck behind the gate, locked away to die always stuck with me. I know she wasn't a real passenger obviously-but I am glad to be informed that it didn't happen to anyone irl
A very informative presentation of certain facts that I was not aware of. I was pleased to see that footage from the 1958 film was used. That film was by far the best depiction of the disaster to date.
Imagine how many pockets of air their could have been in the Bow. People could have survived for a decent amount of time, even after the bow was fully submerged. Its pretty scary to think about.
A somber ending almost as haunting as the wreck itself… So much great information shared once again, and I’m glad the myths will continue to be quelled 👍
The sound of creeking and bending steel will always give me chills and yet for those who have survived the sinking it probably gave them PTSD or'and nightmares.
Thank you for setting the record straight about crew keeping 3rd class below. I always feel they get a bad rep for it and don’t feel it was the case. If any did, it was due to the confusion and chaos of the night, not intentional murder.
@@alwillk First class was closer to the life boats. Also, most of the third class largely stuck to areas they were familiar with rather than risk getting lost in second and third class areas.
There definitely was some crew telling third class they couldn't use the gate and yes they had to force the stewed physicaly and break through gate, u can't just discount accounts from survivors, they all have differant stories, sone were treated well some badly
Great video Mike, one of my favourites you've done. You're doing a great job at finding little known facts to present to your viewers. Also wonderful to see an Aussie TH-camr doing so well.
Thank you for sharing more accurate stories about the experiences of those lost. I understand why films lean into the drama but, when it’s about real events, it can also lead to poor assumptions and a lack of curiosity about the truth.
One of the silver linings I have to believe would be the safety features that came as a result, exit signs, maps of the ship, obviously lifeboats for everyone, and while we don't really have classes like that anymore, I would have to believe that no matter where you're staying on the ship, no people will be overlooked
Out of the entire tragedy, the thing that sticks with me the most is the total darkness and stillness of the ocean when she sank. It was near pitch dark with only stars for light.
Very, very, very interesting indeed! Thanks for all the work...as someone who is fascinated by ocean liners, this is just gold. Keep up the good work. !
When the Stern Section sank. When the Stern Imploded it was instant death to those in third class and those remaining aboard as their bodies would have been crushed from the pressure of the water just like the Titan Sub Disaster last year. I can’t imagine to horror witness being in pitch black and then the bulkhead burst and crushed to death instantly.
Yeah but they would have been tossed around, submerged into complete darkness, probably at least touching freezing water. The awful psychological trauma of impending death prior to the burst is the real horror being described, I think
People on the Titanic died in a very brutal way! Drowned, crushed, frozen... Just pure horror... I can't even imagine how terrifying it was to be trapped in a sinking ship's hull.
I couldn’t imagine being on the top deck, thinking things were bad enough. To only have a funnel collapse and the water going down the shaft, taking you with it. Deep down in the pitch black. 😢
It is proper to be enlightened by such a fact based video. One needs balance between a blockbuster movie and a terrifying disaster that occurred in 1912.
It’s also worth noting that as air trapped in those spaces was pressurized by the water outside the increase in pressure would’ve caused an incredible increase in temperature. Horrific for anyone trapped inside
It gives me such an eerie feeling to think of the boat at the bottom of the ocean as a tomb for those who couldn’t escape. I’m not sure what I believe in when it comes to what happens to us after death but I would hope for their sake that our souls are strong enough to escape such a place and don’t have to linger below.
This was one of questions that gave me actual shivers. The pitch dark spaces within the ship.. the thunderous noises as everything went down.. the muffled screams from above.. How could you be there with your children.. telling them everything will be okay when in this abhorrent darkness the whole world seemingly crushes down on you.. Having 100 feet of water over you as you lay on the wall as the ship sinks.. Just to hear the snapping of steelbeams just before you die from the implosion force.. Truly a nightmare... You gave these poor souls a great hommage with your video~
The same thing happened on a large passenger train disaster in the Rockies at that time. People just sat, waiting for instructions, and froze to death.
Drowning terrifies me as a way to die, even though I spend a lot of time in and around water (I’m a scuba diver). Drowning in a sinking ship somehow sounds even more hellish than simple drowning. I can only hope that in whatever afterlife exists these poor people found peace.
The account of that lady just deciding not to even try to evacuate, and instead, merely sitting down at the piano with her child on her lap and playing a tune as the ship sunk beneath the waves invokes an incredibly poignant emotion. Heartbreaking.
She must have been one tough lady. I would think that at some point she'd be like "Holy smokes this water is freezing, I'm outta here".
And in that moment her maternal instinct completely took over it still amazes me the strength of mothers is something to be truly admired
@@ShallowApple22 While I think I understand the point you were trying to make... a woman completely giving up on her will to survive and opting to take her child down with her doesn't exactly fit the notion of "maternal instinct" in my mind. Her doing everything she possibly could have to save her child against all odds (even if it meant sacrificing herself, or something along those lines) would be a much better example of "maternal instinct," in my opinion.
It’s one thing to choose to give up, but to not fight to save your own child feels unnatural to me.
@@robpolaris7272 Couldn't agree more, my friend.
There's nothing more frightening than being trapped inside a sinking ship, it is just so scary.
I agree! I can't think of any place more hostile, unnatural or scary for a person to be stuck in.
Drowning is my worst fear. I can't imagine how painful it must be to draw water into your lungs. God that's so terrifying 😖😵💫
@@OceanlinerDesigns imahen when water surpises you from up the stairs and pushes you down the staris in to more water
@@SAPANNow Being alive in an air-pocket would be worse! Slow suffocation.
What about trapped inside a burning ship!
Imagine how terrifying it must have been to be trapped in the ship when the lights went out. Stuck in pitch black, no way out, cold, wet, hearing water pouring around you. Must have been one of the worst ways to go.
Imagine surviving all that and ending up in a room that acted as an air pocket. The creaking as it sinks until the room suddenly implodes.
dude i watched the titanic and thought the same thing when rose was down finding jack. If that power went out your TOAST like pitch black
the pressure of the air would of ruptured your eardrums pretty much as the first thing.. the rest doesn't bear thinking about
@@SupramanTRD It happens. A cargo ship sank and three days later divers were sent recover bodies and they found the cook alive in an air pocket. The divers were wearing cameras and its an incredible video th-cam.com/video/BtE6ZyHis8k/w-d-xo.html.
I think the man despite three days in the dark ended up being "ok" and actually eventually became a trained diver himself.
@@oliverlane9716 I wouldve lost my mind after like 5 hours let alone 3 full days. Props to that guy, hes one strong willed guy
I've watched that Frank Prentice interview before, and it's just haunting every time. The look in his eyes and his voice trailing off as he lives that horrifying night all over again in his mind as he tells what he saw and heard. The true horror of the _Titanic_ just hits completely different when you hear the accounts of the people who were actually there watching it happen right in front of them.
@@ApostleOfWonka I think one of the worst things was when a woman said " now they are silent" reffering about the people in the water that died
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@@cyberquasar2267 one of the ladies in one of the forward port boats said the screams of those dumped out of the aft well deck were the most horrible sound she'd ever heard-then she paused and amended her statement: the screams were the _second_ worst sound she had ever heard-the worst was the _silence_ that eventually replaced them.
Three years later, that same sentiment would be echoed by a number of witnesses to the massacre of RMS _Lusitania's_ passengers and crew off the southeast coast of Ireland.
Is there a link?
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One from 1979: v=tAPVYK66jXg
Another: v=rYakZJ1klZM
A later documentary featuring Prentice and several other survivors: v=0HchZvjV_4o
Witnesses recounted that there was no sense of panic for a long time even while Titanic was sinking because many, even crew members, assumed the ship would not actually become totally submerged. It was only towards the end that the survivors who were in the lifeboats said they could hear those on the upper decks screaming and wailing.
Yep, even after the ship went vertical people where thinking/hoping the stern would just float there. It wasn't until the stern started it's descent that people realized it was really going to go down.
Interestingly, if the Titanic had actually hit the iceberg straight on, the ship most likely would have floated and survived its journey to NY (albeit much more slowly) because only the first watertight compartment would have flooded, instead of the five which sunk it.
@@katherinemurphy2762 More than one compartment would have been destroyed.
@@dumigamez397 Right, but the ship wouldn't have sunk.
@@katherinemurphy2762 The ships keel could have snapped, which would have sunk it in less than half an hour.
I feel so bad for the crew. It must've been so stressful and heartbreaking having to help panicked people onto a life ship when you know there will probably not be enough for you.
In a weird way, hearing that the 3rd class people died of just plain negligence rather than outright hostility makes me even sadder. It's one thing to be see and ignored, but it's another thing entirely to just wait and wait for someone to come help you and realize that you've been forgotten.
It's the reverse to me lol. I'd be more pissed if someone saw and chose to ignore rather then just forget in a hectic situation
either way pisses me off....a disorganized, haphazard "evacuation" of the ship....major failure
I don't think that it was a forgotten because they didn't matter type situation, but more of a you can only focus on what's directly in front of you type situation. It's not like the crewmen were just waiting around thinking lol.
It takes away some of my empathy for them. Instead of taking responsibility for their own safety, they slowly made their ways onto the deck by being chased out by the water. It's harder to feel bad for someone who just shrugged and waited for death
Also, a lot of the 3rd class were immigrants that didn’t speak English well. So not only were they forgotten, but those people who didn’t understand the language literally didn’t have a clue what was happening until they saw the water rising.
A horrible fate that I've contemplated often. The thought of being down below as the ship sinks. The angle of the room you're in increasing slowly, the creaking sounds as the structure strains, furniture crashing around you and the voices of terrified passengers. The thought of being huddled in a corner as everything goes dark, and the roar of water rushing ever closer is truly nightmarish.
I'm also reminded of those who served on warships that were trapped below, and of the men who served on the Edmund Fitzgerald. I'm fascinated by seafaring vessels but terrified by the thought of such horrific scenarios. May all those who have been lost at sea rest in peace.
I imagine how I wouldn't be able to tell what's right side up, including myself 😬
they were lucky with how the ship sank, level much of the time with a slight list, lowering boats was easy compared to how difficult it could have been, but there was just no rush to leave the ship until the last minute..and not enough boats
but yeah, I'd rather freeze in the water than get trapped as it sank..possibly trapped in an air pocket miles down for hours or something..it's all a nightmare
@@wheelmanstan Granted, any air pockets would be gone after a few hundred feet due to the immense pressure even at that depth. I shudder to think what that would be like being squeezed to death in a pressure chamber.
Yeah, given the choice, I'd be steppin off into the water to freeze vs the alternative.
@@ctg6734 I just remember that guy who survived 3 days in a sunken boat 100ft down. I'm guessing though the pressure put on Titanic probably made that impossible but..who knows, maybe some engineers got trapped in a void. I've seen Das Boot..and that's no way to go.
@@wheelmanstan Oh yes, I recall that situation as well. Amazing he was found alive! 100 feet is obviously doable. However, regular atmospheric pressure is around 14psi at sea level. The pressure at Titanic's depth which is something like 12,000 feet is 6000psi. The steel hull of the stern section imploded around 500 feet according to the video so there's no way any air could still be within at the bottom. But even if there could be a pocket of air, it would be under such immense pressure that any person inside would be killed by it.
For anyone wondering, while being trapped in the ship in an air pocket would have been surely frightening and horrific, it would have also been one of the quickest and most painless deaths possible that night. The implosion would happen so fast and violent you likely wouldn't have been able to know what happened.
I know I was there that night . Water was cold
@@jaybonetaconycap all the titanic survivors have died the last one died in 2009 I believe
@@Edith.titanicr/whoosh
maybe that's what it was like for the people who died in the Titan submarine on its way down to visit the Titanic on a sightseeing trip. Still, it's a horrifying way to die. God bless their souls. May they rest in peace. Amen.
@@Edith.titanicthey’re definitely joking
Hard to imagine the pure terror and the sound must have been overwhelming, the sound of the twisting and snapping steel and the muffled screams going under, may they rest in peace and may we honor thier memories.
So much credit is due for the engineers doing everything humanly possible to keep the lights on until the end
Ive always thought of the titanic as a deadly but relativly "peaceful" sinking, other than the ship snapping, i always imaged it was quite quiet and somber, when in reality, it was horrifically violent and loud and destructive, amazing video.
That's what I thought too, this put it in a whole new light.
What is crazy about this tragedy is that a similar one happened in korea in like 2014 where a ship sank killing many children on a school trip and the captain was the first one off and everyone was informed to stay in their cabins which ultimately became their tomb. the only ones that survived were those who disobeyed orders went on deck and were able to get off the ship.
absolutely terrifying to drown in a ship with no escape or hope in a closed chamber as your life ends.
The Sewol Ferry Disaster if I’m correct?
I never realized how pointless the death toll on that disaster was until I saw the video of it from a helicopter, the ferry was in calm waters surrounded by various other vessels and the coast guard which had responded and the rescue effort should’ve been easy. It is not inconceivable that disaster could’ve had zero fatalities.
@@eriknervik9003 yes It is absolutely crazy. And even crazier is what happened afterwards with people going to jail and fired and etc.
@@eriknervik9003 theres just something wrong with a culture that creates sheep people like that. It was tragic, but come on. you're on a boat and you start seeing more and more water, you get off it asap. Not sit around waiting for orders like a meat robot.
@@Teyore many cultures value obedience to authority, and while people think this is racist or ethnocentric, it’s really not. It’s simply true, there is cases where calm obedience to authority creates a good outcome as long as the authority is competent and making good decisions. But sometimes an authority figure like a ship captain is not up to the task and you need to be ready to exercise judgment. The cruise ship disaster in Italy a few ago had a pretty small death toll because the junior officers forced the captain to start making decisions and he just fled the boat and let the coast guard make all the calls
I am reading a book called The Loss of the SS Titanic, written by a male survivor. One of his bunk mates stayed in bed, disregarding the order to go on deck with a life vest on, saying it was foolish to leave the warmth for the cold outside. Granted, he likely didn't realize just how grave the situation was, but he was never seen again by the author.
Lawrence Beesley wrote that book.
I *highly* recommend The Other Side of the Night, a non-fiction book about the sinking of the Titanic, and in particular how the captains of The Californian and The Carpathia responded to the disaster.
RMS… not SS.
@@tma4137 the title of the book says SS, and this person is referring to the book, not the ship
@@tma4137She was RMS only after getting the contract to carry mail from the Royal Mail, otherwise SS. Granted, she carried mail for all her active life, but still "SS" is also correct. In fact, her lifeboats had "SS Titanic" on them.
Hearing how many were trapped within the Titanic is not only disturbing, but also extremely haunting.
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Seeing the accurate literal photo realistic render it looks like a haunted ghost ship out of a nightmare. You should look it up if you see this reply its really new and we have never seen the ship the way we now can.
@@Cway34 Do you have a link or something I can use to see it or a way to look it up myself?
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@@matthewcrispinwordofGod I wanted to know as well but I think he was referring to this video.
Titanic is more than just a film or piece of media and people often forget that. It was a real disaster that effected real people. This video does a great job highlighting the true terror that night. Well done as always, Mike!
I don't think people forget. It's the human aspect that makes it such a tragic and compelling story. 😥
Every shipwreck is equally horrifying. We only remember Titanic because of the opulence and the fact that billionaires (in their time) died on it.
@@EatMeNerd Maiden voyage of the largest and most expensive civilian ship in the world. Just a bit more than some billionaires being onboard.
Hollywood made millions from myths & stories of the Titanic it would be nice to do a movie based of nothin but fact on what we know.
@@Mataylor17The titanic was never once branded by White Star Line as "unsinkable"
The closest of this was in a unknown newspaper where it says by Star Line that the Titanic was "as unsinkable as we could make it" they never said it was 100% safe or unsinkable. And in a way they were correct, Titanic was a very safe a well-made ship, the damage done to the Titanic would sink even modern ships.
Mike, this was a outstanding video. You showed respect for the people that died that night with your tone and narration. Thanks for keeping the memory alive of those lost that night.
Thanks Mike! Its hard to get the to e right on such a ‘voyeuristic’ and frankly horrible topic.
This just an option, but I think many people who were trapped in the Titanic towards the end died because objects that weren't nailed down crashed into them or falling on top of them. It must have been truly horrifying. To be in the dark, to hear things crashing, falling around them. Truly a nightmarish way to die.
Ultimately, this is one of the few scenarios I’d never like to be in. The thought of being lost in a ship, as it plunged into the ocean, and into a sea of darkness. A maze of corridors that can either lead you deeper into the death pit, or allow you an escape. Bravo on the video, I believe this is the first that I’ve seen on this topic.
I've always had a fear of deep ocean ships because of this. I'm even hesitant to get on simple canoes or sailing ships on rivers/lakes. But I'm really not into any holiday cruise ships, passenger ships, and I had no intention of joining the Navy when I was 18. Some people love the water and are water people, that's cool, I'm not one of them.
@@John-ct9zs I love the water. I love pools and lakes, streams and waterfalls. Like you, I do not love going out to sea where you can't see or swim to shore. If the ship goes down there are so many ways to die. Freezing, starving, dehydration, sharks, drowning. And many people die by falling off cruise ships, as I almost did as a young teen. My parents went on a cruise and took me along. It's a secret that people fall overboard and the cruise industry basically is never held responsible if someone goes overboard. Yet another reason not to go on these ships. If it stayed in harbor, I'd be happy to enjoy the buffet's and amenities, but unfortunately you have to go to international waters so that you get a cheap price. I believe that's why cruises are much cheaper than if you had the same experience on land. Anyway, I'm giving you a mental high five for sharing my feelings. Others have called my feeling an 'irrational fear'. At least I know one way I'm not going out.
I use to play this titanic game and I would get lost in corridors for hrs lol
"Saving the Titanic" is an AMAZING "Documovie" from the perspective of the staff. Its literally amazing and free on youtube.
Thank you. I'll look for it. ❤️
My grandfather was a British Home Child Orphan. Britain sold these children to Canada and Australia as indentured workers. He was 9yrs old and was told he'd be going on the Titanic ( steerage)with a group, he was so excited. But he caught the flu and he was delayed til age 10 on a later ship. He lived in Canada until age 96yrs, and was glad God kept him off the Titanic.
How does that work that type of slavery? How long would he have to work until he was free again?
Not quite the same, but my grandfather and his siblings were going to be evacuated from the Midlands during WW2, and everyone got a physical and a dental check before hopping on the ship. My grandfather went through it all until it was time for the dental, had a massive panic attack and ran away- completely out of character. He didn't end up getting passage, and his brothers and sister wouldn't leave him behind so they stayed back with him. The ship carrying the evacuees was bombed or torpedoed, and most died. I'm only here because my grandad who was the most steadfast, calm guy his whole life... Freaked out.
@@nordette it was somewhere between debt slavery and being adopted, and it lasted longer than a lot of people think.
Really? God let everyone else died but protected that child? Come on!
@@oriolesfan61my thoughts too
Although a different disaster, talk of being trapped inside a sinking ship reminds me of Estonia, which capsized in the 90s. The passageway had a stair case at one end, but as the ship listed onto its side, that staircase became more like a set of monkey bars on the ceiling and only a handful of young and fit individuals were able to escape. Both disasters were truly horrifying.
Or the Eastland when it rolled over at the dock in Chicago . The water was warm and shallow. Those poor bastards all drowned.
People in the Estonia had no chance. It happened so quickly. A horrible disaster.
Reading the stories of MS Estonia are real nightmare fuel. Just escape becoming literally impossible before most people knew there was a problem, but still having time to be tossed around in a listing ship and die screaming and in terror. Every survivor report I read dwells on the deafening wail of hundreds of terrified, dying people rising from the gaping corridors, pitched at an angle to make them impossible to traverse.
Or the Korean ferry boat from about 10 years ago, where all the high school kids were sitting in the passageway recording video with their phones and talking to their parents before it rolled over and they all drowned, as the captain and most of the crew left them behind to die.
@@RCAvhstape in the video of the sinking you can see people inside Sewol trying to break the window, as it's slowly submerging under water.
Thank you for a great video on this subject.
As a young man, I met Edwina Trout Mackenzie. She was 98 to my 26. Edwina saved a baby, Asaad Thomas, the eldest brother of a coworker and friend, Marjorie Thomas. I knew Edwina until her death at age 100 and I attended her funeral.
She was an amazing woman and loved to dance around her living room to songs from that period. Such fun and wonderful memories. She passed December 4th, 1984.
What a lovely story! Thanks for sharing :)
She sounds like a wonderful person, thank you so much for sharing your memory of her!
Didn't Asaad pass away young from some illness? I think I've read about him and Edwina.
In 1963 there was a lady in my neighborhood who was in her survived the Titanic. Although she was just a child when that occurred said, " It was terrible, just terrible." She didn't say anything else. She added no details of her experience. Those few words have left a lasting impression on me.
Wouldn’t she have been in her 30s?
@@stockinettestitch Thank you for your comment, my dates were off. I'm 81 now, so my math isn't as good as it should be.
@@joetroll9605 lol, You didn't go there! 🤣
@@joetroll9605 incel 😂
@joetroll9605 Chivalry? Are you aware of how many men made it into the boats? Quite a bit. The plain truth of it all was it was a disorganized mess, and whoever got a boat got a boat.
Your a real sh$t of a person to say something like that considering how many people died (including an awful lot of women and children).
The thought of being in your cabin and seeing seawater flooding in and hearing the ship breaking apart, knowing the end is coming very shortly, is truly the stuff of nightmares
Imagine being trapped at the bottom of the ocean inside an air pocket. Absolutely terrifying.
Not possible for titanic but that did happen once
Yeah, some were trapped inside air pockets but the moment the ship got to a couple hundred meters of depth those air pockets imploded. In the instance you're thinking of, I think it was that tugboat incident, she ship sank in quite shallow water so the air pockets didn't implode.
@@TheOreoOverlord there was a Nigerian chap, I think, who survived for a few days. Divers found him trapped. Never seen a more a terrified face.
@@brick6347 pretty sure he found an air pocket in the kitchen and survived with a can of coke. Imagine being trapped underwater with nothing but your own thoughts and the aching feeling that you are going to choke to death on your own carbon dioxide soon. I sure do love ships, but I’ll be sticking with the ones above the water, thanks.
The Titanic's few remaining air-filled compartments would've imploded within seconds after the stern reached 200-600 m depth. Think of those compartments being like those of a submarine reaching its crush depth. There is no way they would've made it all the way down 2.5 miles/4 km.
I think being trapped inside a sinking ship is a horrible way to go. I often think about the poor young men on the USS Arizona, who survivors could hear banging on the Hull. Or the many thousands on the gustloff who never even managed to make it to the stairs. I remember watching a documentary about the lusitania and Dr Robert Ballad spoke about how they came to an open gangway door, a last ditched effort to try and escape the sinking ship. Inside further down they found two pairs of shoes, an adults shoe and a child's shoe. Really brings home what these people went through in those final minutes.
There's supposed to be all kinds of bones in and around the empress of Ireland.
@@jeffpotipco736 yes I remember watching a documentary about that and in the underwater footage you could see a skull
My goodness
That was the USS West Virginia or Oklahoma. Arizona was the one that blew up when a bomb hit the magazine.
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But question……didn’t the 3rd class passengers have their own area where they can go outside? I know they weren’t allowed to mingle with upper class. But surely had had their own outdoor area.
I've been obsessed with learning about the Titanic ever since I was a small child. I remember one of the first books I ever read was in Kindergarten and was about the Titanic and its sinking. Though I knew people were trapped inside when the ship went down, this... one youtube video made me sit in silence and reflect in a way I never had over that sinking. To reflect on those stuck inside when the pressure finally imploded the ship around them... it's sorrowful to say in the least.
A great problem for the third class passengers might also have been the language barrier. Many were emmigrants from all over Europe, they simply could not understand any instructions given to them by the crew, as foreign language skills were not wide spread at that time.
"Capitan, Capitan! Where should we go? Please..."
@@Saturnia2014 :(
You can understand the mayhem going on around you.
Yep, that’s true for especially for third class immigrants, even though they’re were the richer kind of peasants considering they were able to afford a ticket to titanic period compared to people who could not.
@@SkyStream-lu4jk"I am drowning captain "
Over a hundred years after and the horror of it all never ends. Whenever Titanic is mentioned the thought of what happened to so many on a 'brand new, safest, unsinkable ship' just never fails to make my stomach clutch I learned of the Titanic young, around 10, I'm 62 now, and it always gets me when I stop and think about it.
and now it's back all over the news yet again...
This very well may be the most haunting video you've ever made. Deeply, deeply impactful.
I appreciate your factual look at this topic (like all the others you do). The steerage passengers were not maliciously corralled, rather they were neglected to death. I also liked how you used the clips from A Night to Remember, SOS Titanic, and Titanic; they really helped visualize the moments.
I think people underestimate (or perhaps I overestimate) the 'unsinkable' part of Titanic.
Its not that people of the time thought Titanic literally wouldn't sink ever; its that they thought it would say afloat, disabled, long enough for rescue. In effect, the ship would become the life raft for the majority of passengers.
I think this is reflected in so many staying behind, why so many life boats were partially filled, partially why there were not enough life boats in the first place, and to a degree why the sinking was so tragic. There are many many other ships that have sank and killed many people, but their stories are not told to the degree of Titanic's. I think that is due in large part to people of the time expecting Titanic to keep them safe until help could arrive, but it didn't.
I just cannot imagine any other motivation for entire families to keep to their staterooms. Its not hard to imagine some sense of safety in believing the ship would stay afloat until help arrived. Especially considering the slow-ish sinking time of 2.5~ hours for a ship of the time with that kind of damage.
So you are there in your stateroom asleep and there is a sudden knock at the door. You are told by someone (crew or other passengers) that the ship hit an iceberg and crew are taking care of the situation. Now your immediate thought is, we are going to sink and we must get out of here. Then you realize its been a bit already and the ship appears fine; the lights are on, there is no water, the forward list is gentle or almost imperceptible - and it hits you, the ship is your life raft. Best to stay put and let the crew handle the situation, stay out of there way, and be on the ready. Help will arrive soon. And since you didn't go up on top of the ship, you missed much of the chaos that unfolded there.
An hour and a half later... bam, there is rushing water, lights go out, and the ship plunges into the ocean in what seems like a blink of an eye.
A thing I realized when I watched the 97 movie where it showed the Strauses in bed and the Irish woman putting her kids to sleep was the fact that many people had resolved themselves to go back to their cabins and just _wait_ for the water to come and envelop them, and this, to me, sounds like the most torturous kind of death during the disaster.
STRAUSES WERE ON THE DECK THEY DID RECOVER ADAS BODY
I’d rather freeze to death in the water
It doesn’t sound that torturous to me. It seems like a very calm way to die. My mother once put my little sister and I to sleep while doing everything she could to comfort us during disaster we had a feeling we might be killed by much like how the Irish mother did to her kids.
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACYchoking to death on water is calm yea bro forsure!
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACYDrowning is not a peaceful way to die…… After holding your breath for as long as you can, your body will finally force you to inhale. Obviously if you are submerged in water, you wont be able to breath, you will be inhaling water which will cause a burning sensation as the water enters your lungs. Your airways will close involuntarily to try to prevent more water from coming in. Eventually you will lose consciousness, and then eventually your heart will stop once your body reaches hypoxic convulsion, in which your body will start to convulse violently and jerk. After this, clinical death. This all can take up to 10 minutes, but tends to be faster with children.
My grandad knew a family who travelled third class to start a new life in the US, back then it took a while for the news of its sinking reaching home. It effected him quite badly, he was 11 and the children were his friends, communities were close back then so it must of effected many people.
His parents decided not to emigrate to the US after the titanic sunk.
The poor people of Southampton, UK suffered immense loss when the Titanic sunk because most of the ship's crew were from that town and the surrounding area.
The majority of steerage passengers emigrating were from England and died,so I’m not surprised they thought again!
Mike....thank you so much for this video. I've been writing a novel about Titanic for the past few years, and have been continuously frustrated by the lack of clarity on whether Third Class passengers were deliberately trapped below decks. Not only did you provide the answer, but it was much more macabre and foreboding that I could have imagined. The immense suffering of those who died on the ship is something most people don't like to think about, and you've now shone a much-needed light on it.
I seem to remember seeing a documentary on one of the underwater expeditions that showed one of the submersible robots actually filming a Third Class stairway gate locked. I remember it mostly because the narrator mentioned how sad it was.
I have an extensive family history of my predecessors working at sea, ocean liners, cargo ships, navy etc. My grandparents came across at times people that worked on the Titanic, and the one thing they remembered always being told was how haunting the screams were, followed by a haunting silence post sinking. The screams were a death choir of doomed souls.
@@macwyll I saw that. That’s why I’m confused by this video. I wonder what the gate was that they filmed if there was no gate to keep 3rd class passengers down there.
@@MadHatterDJ-part of me believe it’s because the evidence from this video is cherry picked to avoid admitting there were some instances of deliberate prevention for marginalized passengers. bc I’ve researched the topic before as well and come across survivors recounting similar instances and even legal cases involved in near deliberate incompetence.
I love the fact you used footage from "A Night To Remember" something feels so real about it. Perhaps because it's black & white footage I don't know. Another brilliant one Mike and possibly more terrifying than being out on deck not being able to see what was happening.
A night to remember both the novel and the movie are a bit inaccurate and they kinda glorify lightholler even though he was the officer who took women and children first as women and children only.
There’s a version of it on TH-cam that has been coloured, if you’re interested. Watched it a couple nights ago
One of the things to keep in mind when asking "Where are the bodies?" or "Why were so few recovered?" is because the CS Mackay-Bennett didn't make it out there until almost a week after the sinking, by which time many of them were widely dispersed, in particular by a storm that swept through the area, and carried perhaps hundreds of miles in some cases further south where they eventually sank beneath the sea. Even then, the Mackay-Bennett was so overwhelmed, it's likely they didn't get to all the bodies, many it did recover being given burial at sea, and only around a 190 were brought back out of 309 total. By the time the other two ships, Montmagny and Algerine got on the scene, the bodies either were too dispersed or sank and so they found only another twenty or so.
But the German Nordeutscher Lloyd liner S.S. Bremen just a few days after Titanic's sinking came across an enormous number as far as they could see, the captain of the ship counting at least 150 bodies, likely much more than that as they passed through, but no one was stalwart enough to do a full counting of bodies.
@@kavinskysmith4094 That's one of them - there are two photos that purport to be of the fatal iceberg. Whether either really was is impossible to know for sure, but one was indeed photographed by a crew member of the Bremen.
This is distracting.
We are talking Titanic on here !
Human gross errors, greed and total selfishness were at play in an ocean, of extreme cold, with growlers all all around - and the Captain dined on !!
He knew there were no glasses at the crows nest!
And Ismay was contemptible. He survived and gladly - died in misery.
She should never have sailed with a weakened starboard side from the burning fire in the engine room. The cheap rivets used in place of steel ones.
And inadequate bulkhead design. Only designed for a head-on collision.
So how she earned the title 'unsinkable' is beyond comprehension.
@@joysynmonds9082 Oceanliner Designs has another video called "How did the Iceberg Sink the Titanic?" where he discusses exactly why the Titanic sunk.
@@joysynmonds9082 growlers were not "all around", the starboard side was not weakened by the coal fire, the iron rivets were not "cheap" and testing has proven that theory false.
Bruce Ismay had little to nothing to do with what happened. You may have read some misleading information or watched a scene from a movie out to tell a story, not THE story.
The height of the watertight bulkheads were not designed with only a head-on collision in mind, very few ships even today could withstand what Titanic and her sisters could handle.
And Titanic never was called "unsinkable", nor even Olympic before her. The closest was in "The Shipbuilder" magazine 1911 issue dedicated to the Olympic where she was deemed "practically unsinkable", an important qualifier.
Did the Bremen pull any of the bodies? Also, with the sailor on the Bremen having photographed the iceberg, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume he may have also photographed the field of of corpses. As a photographer myself, it pains me to think of how many historically significant moments were photographed but never published…and thus lost to time due to the modesty and conservative nature of society before the general era of the Vietnam war. One the bothers me tremendously: On D-Day there was a videographer in one of the landing craft on Omaha beach, in the first wave. If he was with Capa, I don’t recall. Regardless, his footage captured the first wave onto the beach and was surely some of the most tragic video ever taken of American soldiers. It was deemed to brutal to be shown to the public, and was sent to the Smithsonian where it has been lost ever since. Even more video was recorded by a team of Army cinematographers, yet nearly all of it was lost when the majority of it was sent back to England with a courier in a duffel bag…which the courier accidentally dropped into the English Channel. Another bulk of it was destroyed when there was an incursion of water into the room on a ship where it was being stored. Surviving bits and pieces of what that team captured, have slowly been uncovered in recent decades.
The world has likely seen only a fraction of the images captured during historical events, and surely many of these images are actually still surviving, tucked away into photo albums belonging to grandparents and forgotten about in dusty attics. The further we get from these events, the less likely it is that when those albums see the light of day the photos will be recognized. Prints from before the 1970s were often quite small and low quality, and at times making it that much harder to recognize the scene they show. With how little many people appreciate things like old photo albums, it’s guaranteed that every year we lose countless, priceless, photographs to the land fill.
Thanks for setting the record straight, Mike. Another great video. I live in a small town on the west coast of Canada and there's a Titanic survivor buried in the local cemetery. I visit his grave whenever I go for a walk through the cemetery and think of what he must have gone through that night in 1912. His name was Charles James Savage and he was a First Class steward. His brother-in-law was also a member of the crew and was a Third Class steward who was pulled from the water into a lifeboat, but didn't survive. Charles was in lifeboat 11. I don't know if he was also pulled from the water or made it into the lifeboat before it was lowered. There's a memorial for Charles on Find a Grave (apparently I can't include a link in a comment) which includes a photograph of him taken some years later. I think he has a very haunted look in his eyes.
I just looked him up, and yeah, I agree. He has that 1000 yard stare that many soldiers have after combat. I’m sure that night haunted him for the rest of his life, may he rest in piece.
RIP Charles from Brightlingsea ❤
RIP Charles .. that stare is a clear sign of PTSD to me. I can’t imagine how the Titanic survivors dealt with the trauma afterwards, the survivors guilt must be immense.
My god, I never realized just how much more absolutely grim the real story was...
Perhaps the best video I have ever seen put together about this subject. It was educational, entertaining, but also respectful of those who perished. The interview played at the end really hit home. I'm definitely a fan of your videos.
This reminds me of the Sewol Ferry Boat incident. The school children in there weren’t trapped or anything. The captain told them to stay in their place and help will come. However, after he said that, he escaped on a boat and left those kids behind. They all stayed because they believed the captain will bring help soon but sadly, they all drowned.
Ahhh, that glorious Korean respect for their elders... 💀
It's so haunting seeing the ferry just sitting on a dock now. I can't imagine how much more horrifying it became after the students stopped recording it all.
Ummm did he get the death penalty!? Do they have that in South Korea? If not they need to make an exception for him! What a pos!
@@SmartStart24 South Korea does have the death penalty, but there hasn't been an execution in years. The captain of the Sewol was sentenced to 30+ years in prison, and seeing as he's already around 70 years old, he'll die there.
Being trapped on the Titanic on the lower decks as she sank must have been terrifying.
But other disasters were even worse than titanic
the empress of Ireland and the lusitania as examples these were even more horrific due to the power on both ships to fail in only a matter of a few minutes. Not only are people lost or trapped on the lower decks but you are in total darkness which made escape impossible.
May all of the lost souls in maritime disasters including the Titanic rest in peace and may they never be forgotten 😔
Yeah, the Lusitania went down in only 18 minutes and the power went out so fast that people were unable to find their way to the exits through the hallways and rooms and there were also people trapped in the elevators which had disabled.
@Sarah-rd3kj Believe me, there’s been plenty of disasters far worse than the Titanic’s sinking such as the sinking of the MV Wilhelm Gustloff, the tragic terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001, and Russia’s attacks on Ukraine.
The Empress of Ireland and Lusitania are nightmares simply from listing alone. Once a ship lists past 45 degree anyone below second deck is screwed.
My great great grandfather Mr Walter Hurst a greaser survived the wreck. One of my three relatives who worked on the boat. They’re story is fascinating.
Imagine being stuck in a room deep inside the Titanic at an incredibly steep angle with cold water and implosions happening all around you and not a single sliver of light, meaning you can't even see what is going to kill you first, the water, walls, implosions, hypothermia or falling articles... Honestly one of the worst ways to go. RIP all those who suffered that night.
It is sad however I don't think they suffered it was a matter of seconds when it was going down and imploding
The thought of being trapped in a sinking ship with cold water rushing up is just so terrifying.
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And it was probably pitch black dark if the power went out
Another factor to the lower survival rate among third class comes the age-old question: Which was greater: Physical barriers or the language barrier?
Second Officer Lightoller also mentioned seeing the ship’s engineers emerge topside near the end. We know they were engineers because Lightoller recognized some of them from when they served on the _Oceanic_ alongside him.
Language for sure. If you can't read or write English it's going to be much harder to go up to the boat deck. You have no idea which way to go and being a natural maze it's worse
Did you know there are bullet marks on the steel concertina gates where 3rd class passengers were kept behind?. These could only have been fired from one of the officers. It's clear that they were prevented from going onto the boat deck.
@@Embracing01, what are you talking about? Where did you even read this?
@@Embracing01 sauce or it didn't happen
@@Embracing01 site your source.
In a nutshell:
"There was no plan to keep the third class passengers from boarding the lifeboats and they weren't locked behind gates except the small gate and possibly a gate or two that would have been easy to get past. It was all very confusing and the first class passengers just happened to go first because they forgot to tell tell the third class passengers the ship was sinking."
Jared Owen just did a really awesome full animated tour of Titanic. It's both amazing to watch, and horrifying when you realize people and their children were scattered around in there as it went down.
I almost didn't watch this video. But shortly after I started it I realized there's a lot of good, new, fresh, realistic information that I honestly didn't know and I know a bunch about the Titanic! Thanks for your high quality!
May I say, your respectful editing at the end of this video was very moving, well fitting and very much noticed. Thank you.
Throughout my childhood, I had a recurring nightmare of being trapped in a sinking ship. The darkness, panic, water pouring in... it was utterly terrifying. I grew up in a strict home with no TV allowed (except daytime kids shows), so I wouldn't have known anything about being trapped in a sinking ship. Thankfully, as I got older, the nightmares stopped. However, I am still terrified of big ships (even being near one when it's berthed makes me feel nauseous), and will never go on a cruise. So why is it that I can't stop watching these videos?
Possibly how you passed in a past life ? If you believe in past life’s.. I’m kinda in between on if it believe in them myself or not but I do find it fascinating.. 😊
Yeah I agree. I think you were on it. The spirit knows no beginning and end. Ask your self and see what comes up.
past life
Recent events taught me that the implosion death is the preferred death out of everything I just listened to
Remember that out of some 1,500+ victims, only a 300+ bodies were recovered. That leaves roughly 1,200 bodies unaccounted for, or 80% of those lost, or another way of looking at it: for every body recovered, four others were not. I suspect a great many were trapped inside when Titanic began her final plunge. That last plunge took less than 10 minutes from the bridge submerging until the stern disappeared, and happened so suddenly that it caught many by surprise. Anyone still below decks would have had no chance of making it through quickly tilting corridors and stairways that were no longer level and stable. Imagine being one in a crowd of people in those rapidly changing conditions.
From historians research only about 300 people were still inside the ship. The rest of the roughly 1200 victims were in the water and got dispersed across the ocean by a storm where they eventually sank or were eaten by wildlife.
@@sorrenblitz805 I'd like to read that research.
@@charlesdarnay5455 go digging bro. I open the door you gotta walk through.
@@sorrenblitz805 In other words, you are unable to name the specific research you refer to. That's what I thought. How would it be possible to "research" (ie, count) the number of bodies that were dispersed? The math doesn't work out if you look at the number of bodies recovered, and especially if you analyze the classes of those recovered bodies. Third Class is woefully underrepresented which strongly suggests they never made it to the open decks before the end.
I imagine they imploded as they went down with the ship.
Hearing that guy's story at the end like that makes you wonder who had it worse. The ones who died a violent death trapped inside the ship for the ones who survived and had to watch the horror.
I always love your content Mike but that ending was amazing 👏 you understood the seriousness of what was being said and didn't have to add a "Thanks for watching please subscribe" segment after. Good stuff
There are a thousand accounts of this event, and I've engaged in a good portion of them. Yet I find this one deeply vivid and more real than what has been told before. This is good work.
I saw that Frank Prentice interview in a documentary. It always struck me how dignified he was. The way I remember it is that I believe he was over 90 then and I think it was made just before he died and just before the wreck was found. I've often wondered how he would have felt had he lived to see her found.
I could not imagine the fear, hopelessness etc that passengers felt as they knew they were plunging to their doom!
Such a tragedy!
I think the death that scares me the most in the Titanic disaster is _the rain._ If you were deep in a compartment and you failed to leave until it was too late, your death would be sealed before you actually perished. Water would come from above, making staircases inaccessible and water would drip from the ceiling. You'd be facing a wall from both sides and the trap would snap shut as the compartment flooded.
Or even worse, stayed mostly dry until it finally imploded from the pressure.
@@Engine33Truck I will take the implosion over drowning.
@@Dominian1hear hear.
@@Dominian1Yep. During an implosion, you wouldn’t feel anything at all.
Most of my life I had countless thoughts, dreams, and vivid visual imaginations of what it was like to be aboard the ship experiencig all it's wonders, the moments leading up to the collision with the iceberg, all the frantic faces, and helpess feeling on being trapped inside all those compartments at the time of the final plunged and all the horrors that came after. I swear I feel as if all the gather souls of Titanic hunts me. Everything about the Titanic never fails to draw me in everytime it's a gravity that won't let me go I can't fully explain it but it is so.
Just heartbreaking, these were real people this is why the titanic should be respected and treated as a graveyard not a tourist attraction. My absolute thoughts to all the people aboard her RIP.
I only came across this channel a few days ago, and I can thank you sir for reigniting my interest in old ships that started as a seven year old watching the Titanic film.
Loving finding out more about the other ships such as the Lusitania as well.
That's great Sam, thanks for watching!
Excellent video Mike. My dad got me into Titanic and subsequently older ocean liners. More recently I've shared your videos with him and he has thoroughly enjoyed them. Thank you!
Absolutely chilling. No wonder movies have never accurately depict the myriad nasty ways in which sinkings kill.
One of the most chilling scenes I recall came (strangely enough) from Alien: Resurrection. One of the pirate crew is caught by the ankle by a xenomorph whilst swimming underwater. She flailed, lost her breath, inhaled, and then went limp. It even shocked me and my better half, veterans of all manner of deaths on film.
Poseidon (2006) shows a man underwater like "forever" doing something heroic that saves others. Then he can't hold his breath any longer, inhales and drowns with his eyes wide open, his body jerking violently. The camera was right up close, capturing every convulsing moment, nothing hidden. I was shocked, and like you, I thought I had seen every kind of film death. That scene still deeply disturbs me to this day.
Die Gustloff was pretty hard to watch. Especially when the people were banging on the glass roof top and trying to break it open
Little Cora getting stuck behind the gate, locked away to die always stuck with me. I know she wasn't a real passenger obviously-but I am glad to be informed that it didn't happen to anyone irl
A very informative presentation of certain facts that I was not aware of. I was pleased to see that footage from the 1958 film was used. That film was by far the best depiction of the disaster to date.
If you like Charles Lightholler sure.
Imagine how many pockets of air their could have been in the Bow. People could have survived for a decent amount of time, even after the bow was fully submerged. Its pretty scary to think about.
A somber ending almost as haunting as the wreck itself…
So much great information shared once again, and I’m glad the myths will continue to be quelled 👍
The sound of creeking and bending steel will always give me chills and yet for those who have survived the sinking it probably gave them PTSD or'and nightmares.
Thank you for setting the record straight about crew keeping 3rd class below. I always feel they get a bad rep for it and don’t feel it was the case. If any did, it was due to the confusion and chaos of the night, not intentional murder.
...and class consciousness
It’s a convenient excuse, but it still doesn’t explainwhy ratio of 1st class survivors to third class was so disproportionate.
@@alwillk First class was closer to the life boats. Also, most of the third class largely stuck to areas they were familiar with rather than risk getting lost in second and third class areas.
@@alwillk how about the fact more crew were lost then third class.
There definitely was some crew telling third class they couldn't use the gate and yes they had to force the stewed physicaly and break through gate, u can't just discount accounts from survivors, they all have differant stories, sone were treated well some badly
Great video Mike, one of my favourites you've done. You're doing a great job at finding little known facts to present to your viewers. Also wonderful to see an Aussie TH-camr doing so well.
Thank you for sharing more accurate stories about the experiences of those lost. I understand why films lean into the drama but, when it’s about real events, it can also lead to poor assumptions and a lack of curiosity about the truth.
That imploded air pocket was exactly the same case OceanGate submersible encountered in June 2023
I LOVE how sometimes you do an outro and sometimes you don’t. It’s so cool and satisfying depending on the emotion of the topi
A few crew members who survived the Titanic later served on the sister ship the Britannic which was sunk by a German mine in 1916 also surviving.
We don't know for sure that it was a German mine, just that it was most likely a Mine and not a torpedo.
One of the silver linings I have to believe would be the safety features that came as a result, exit signs, maps of the ship, obviously lifeboats for everyone, and while we don't really have classes like that anymore, I would have to believe that no matter where you're staying on the ship, no people will be overlooked
God Bless every person who helped others on that ship, sacrificed their seat for others, and all who lost their life that cold night. How terrifying.
Out of the entire tragedy, the thing that sticks with me the most is the total darkness and stillness of the ocean when she sank. It was near pitch dark with only stars for light.
Every video you make is an awakening and you deal with this tragic event with great respect and dignity thanks for your efforts. 👍🇭🇲
Honestly, the most terrifying thing about the Titanic for me is seeing all these living areas empty, filling with water.
Very, very, very interesting indeed! Thanks for all the work...as someone who is fascinated by ocean liners, this is just gold. Keep up the good work. !
Thanks for watching mate! :)
When the Stern Section sank. When the Stern Imploded it was instant death to those in third class and those remaining aboard as their bodies would have been crushed from the pressure of the water just like the Titan Sub Disaster last year. I can’t imagine to horror witness being in pitch black and then the bulkhead burst and crushed to death instantly.
They wouldn’t have felt anything at all when the bulkhead burst.
Yeah but they would have been tossed around, submerged into complete darkness, probably at least touching freezing water.
The awful psychological trauma of impending death prior to the burst is the real horror being described, I think
People on the Titanic died in a very brutal way! Drowned, crushed, frozen... Just pure horror... I can't even imagine how terrifying it was to be trapped in a sinking ship's hull.
I couldn’t imagine being on the top deck, thinking things were bad enough. To only have a funnel collapse and the water going down the shaft, taking you with it. Deep down in the pitch black. 😢
It is proper to be enlightened by such a fact based video. One needs balance between a blockbuster movie and a terrifying disaster that occurred in 1912.
It’s also worth noting that as air trapped in those spaces was pressurized by the water outside the increase in pressure would’ve caused an incredible increase in temperature. Horrific for anyone trapped inside
Thank you so much for your work! Since I discovered your channel I've been learning a lot of new things about the Titanic.
It gives me such an eerie feeling to think of the boat at the bottom of the ocean as a tomb for those who couldn’t escape. I’m not sure what I believe in when it comes to what happens to us after death but I would hope for their sake that our souls are strong enough to escape such a place and don’t have to linger below.
“It was almost like murder…“ Never thought of the Titanic sinking like that, but that man was correct. At least it was manslaughter of 1,500+ victims.
1496
2208 total on board
1496 died
712 survived.
It would be horrendous nightmare to get trapped in the Titanic, just the sounds alone of bending and twisting metal with distant cries.
Love your videos, so much class and respect, the last bit gave me shivers. May all victims of the sea rest in peace, yesterday and today.
This was one of questions that gave me actual shivers.
The pitch dark spaces within the ship.. the thunderous noises as everything went down.. the muffled screams from above..
How could you be there with your children.. telling them everything will be okay when in this abhorrent darkness the whole world seemingly crushes down on you..
Having 100 feet of water over you as you lay on the wall as the ship sinks..
Just to hear the snapping of steelbeams just before you die from the implosion force..
Truly a nightmare...
You gave these poor souls a great hommage with your video~
Every person has a story and you have a channel that will always have important stories to tell. Thank you.
Hearing the ship implode from the surface must have been absolutely horrific. Being inside the ship as it went down, even worse.
I think being trapping in a sinking ship is one of the worst ways to die at sea.
The same thing happened on a large passenger train disaster in the Rockies at that time. People just sat, waiting for instructions, and froze to death.
Kind of reminds us of the story that people were trapped inside the elevators on the Lusitania.
Gustloff also. The movie is on TH-cam for free incredible film. Maybe better then titanic
The last line in the video, “It was almost like murder, wasn’t it”. Truer words never spoken. Thanks for all your videos.
This is by far the best Titanic series I've seen. Thanks.
Drowning terrifies me as a way to die, even though I spend a lot of time in and around water (I’m a scuba diver). Drowning in a sinking ship somehow sounds even more hellish than simple drowning.
I can only hope that in whatever afterlife exists these poor people found peace.