Ken Marshall deserves his own video... the man singlehandedly created the images of Titanics wreck we all recognize. Beautifully haunting paintings by an incredible artist
they were the first depictions of Titanic that i saw as a child, which created the fascination that lasts to this day...i would love a video on him, that would be amazing
Were it not for his Titanic paintings, which I first saw at an impressionable age, I would not have gotten as interested in civilian and military maritime history as I am today. Ken Marshall, to me, is a legend.
I still have a copy of the 1980s Scholastic book for kids by Bob Ballard about the TItanic's discovery (got the grown-up version later) with Ken's paintings throughout. The detail was so impressive that it wasn't until I was much older that I even realized many of the images of the wreck were PAINTINGS. It didn't occur to me that as black as the ocean is, there's no way you could see that much down there at once. Then I got a better look and noticed the colors and strokes. Just so much detail. Became a shipwreck nut with the NG documentary & that book. And of course I made sure to get "Titanic: An Illustrated History" as soon as I could (hee hee).
I was just a kid but I can still remember that morning in 1985 when my dad woke me up early all excited that they had found Titanic , at the time I had no idea what he was talking about, it ended up starting an obsession that is still with me to this day
they should get the Titanic from the bottom of the ocean! we have the best technology on the planet there's nothing we can't do! Idgaf what anyone else has to say about it. People saying shit like we shouldn't touch the Titanic. so we should just leave it down there to rust away and in about 20 to 30more years their will be nothing left that's what you're saying🤔 I want my tax dollars to go towards Preserving the Titanic!
For some reason, my interest in titanic has skyrocketed and I can never get enough information that happened to her that night. I appreciate these videos you’re making, and how much knowledge you had to learn to explain how everything took place that night. Oh, and rest in peace to all those that lost their lives to this tragedy 🙏
@josesarabia8829 I had a mild.obsession as a kid. Got Robert Ballard's book after seeing the movie. Funny how my mom was only concerned with the boobies, and not the mass scale disaster at the end lol.
I think it's because we really can learn so much from the incident and resulting loss of life, from an engineering perspective, AND a leadership perspective.
The weakest place on the ship was the engine room, being such a large open space. The weight of the engines caused it to go straight down, accelerating, and the flow of the water peeled the skin off.
Add to all this the water column that's being formed behind her as she goes downward, then slamming into the sea floor with the weakened structure partially collapsing, only to then be immediately hit by that column of water following her, further collapsing the structure. Then all the years of being eaten away at and she begins to collapse further under her own weight, to the point we see today.
@@kivulifenrir We also don't know to what extent fully did the Grand Banks earthquake of 1929 contributed to the damage that was seen in 1985/1986. Did decks collapse further down faster and farther than they otherwise would have?
@@jamesfitzpatrick9869 The keel was taller and made of even heavier plates and girders under the engine room due to the immense weight of the reciprocating engines. Just the foundations for them weighed 200 tons each. The place where the keel jackknifed and bent upwards was where it transitioned from the six foot height to the nearly seven foot height.
The titanics stern has always fascinated me. Mainly because most videos cover the bow and if there is one on the Stern, you don't get much of a video about it
Most of those who died inside the ship were in the stern, including several hundred steerage crew if you believe certain stories and many of the firemen, stokers and engineers. The stern is a grave-site in a way the bow section just isn't
@@Sumermak During an expedition in 2001, James Cameron sent a robot into the engine room. He wanted to get into the turbine compartment. The robot walked through the center between the engines, but ran into the watertight bulkhead “L”, the door of which was closed. It was impossible to move further and had to return. Also, Cameron wanted to explore the A la Carte restaurant by sending a robot there. Ken Marshall told Cameron that the restaurant's siding was still intact and it was possible to get inside. But when the robot approached the restaurant site, it turned out that the restaurant's paneling was missing and the decks were compressed. Ken Marshall's assumption turned out to be wrong. In the mid-90s, a French-American expedition was carried out. Researcher Paul-Henri Nargeolet decided to send the robot into the 3rd class stairwell shaft at the stern. But, according to him, there was nothing to see there. Not a trace remains of the cabins or interiors. But it was not possible to move deeper into the stern. Unfortunately, these frames are not publicly available
We shouldn't forget that the stern was substantially structurally compromised by the breakup, with rivets sheared all over the place and, depending on the actual process of the breakup, potentially having the keel peeled off the ship over several frames. This allowed the water and seafloor to devastate the structure even more effectively.
@@KingKhan20000the bulk heads didn’t go all the way up. So the list of the ship eventually allows water to go over the bulkheads top and start filling the next section. But I may have misunderstood what you were asking lol just trying to be helpful
@@str8dnocuddldadshome213 Yes I understand that but the guy said in his comment were not 'still' intact as if something went wrong with them... As for the sinking well much of the stern and second half of the ship wasnt filled with water until the very end when it got forced under.
Sound like the break-up was caused by structural, or even massive structural failure. Something may not have been constructed or designed the way it should have. just saying
When I started learning about Titanic, when I saw both photos of the bow and stern, I was shocked to see such a difference. Bow almost intact, stern destroyed.
Kudos to the talented artist Ken Marschall, whose art gives us a good idea of the Titanic's state. Just checked out some his other paintings.... He's amazing!
The reason the ships you mention weren't affected by implosion to any great scale is because neither Lusitania (91 m depth) and Britannic (122 m depth), never reached a crush depth. Thus air was allowed to flow out through the myriad thousands of small openings relatively gently long after they sank. Titanic's bow and stern did reach a crush depth within at most a few minutes, probably somewhere in the range of 200-400 meters depending on the thickness of the steel of compartments, like the large cold storage rooms in the stern, or the partially empty freshwater tanks, propeller shaft tunnels, etc. the implosions of which would've released air, causing the poop deck to weaken and fold back on itself in the rushing flow of water. The spinning motion of the stern probably didn't help anything with that centrifugal force weakening the damaged sections near the breakup point, causing them to detach and get flung away.
@@xxdeckxxdumanyan7413 That actually happens on wrecks that wind up in very deep waters, but you don't see the effects very much because the exterior shell of the hull and decks remained relatively intact, especially if they're heavily built warships. On Titanic, we see in the still in-place boilers visible in the open remains of Boiler Room 2, the boilers' faces are dimpled in because, while tough, they still got almost crushed in by the onrush of water when the bow reached a depth where that could happen. Luckily, it looks like there was enough water still in them to prevent them from completely imploding and causing further massive damage in that already heavily damaged area.
@@xxdeckxxdumanyan7413 All deep wrecks have implosions on some level. But to implode a hull you need exceptional circumstances, as with the mini-sub where the entire hull collapsed at once. But that boat was tiny. This was impossible in Titanic's case with the scale of the hull, all the damage, escape points and water inside. But there must have been implosions going on inside her. The Maths says there must. Survivors heard them too
“Crush depth” depends on the material of the structure, and weather it’s watertight or not. A ship that’s been cut in half is not watertight and the majority of the compartments within the structure were also not watertight. Water compresses air, compressed air will find the fastest way out, and will buckle the structures around it to do so. The only areas of the stern that possibly could have imploded were any that could be sealed and made airtight, meaning that 99% of the ship could not have imploded.
This was by far the best video of what really happened to the stern section as it was freefalling through the water collum on its way down to the bottom of the ocean. Honestly, I never even thought about hydrodynamic drag being a crucial factor in the destruction of the stern section. I always was under the assumption that the stern imploded. Of course, this happened to Bismarck's 50 foot or so stern as she left the surface. Great video as always, Mike, and I'm liking the mustache you're rocking.
I have been fascinated with Titanic since the 5th grade (I'm now 61). One day in the 5th grade, we had to stay indoors after lunch due to rain. We were taken to the school's library. I was looking through an encyclopedia (that was our Google back then 😁), reading anout the Statue of Liberty 🗽 (my other fascination). I read the next volume & saw Titanic. Ever since then, I've been so interested in it. I'm glad I found your channel 😊
I’ve always believed that the bow section dragged the stern underneath several, if not hundreds of meters below before they completely separated, twisting and wringing themselves from each other until they finally tore free. It would explain a great deal of the otherwise “inexplicable” damage. Great job as always Mike! I always look forward to your tremendous content!
That wouldn't have happened, given that the stern sank slowly. In fact, using the times given by survivors with watches, it can be determined that the Titanic's stern section took a bit more or less than five minutes to sink post-break. If the bow section had remained attached, it would have simply pulled the stern section down in less than a minute.
Water WAS rushing through the stern section as it freefell to the bottom. That certainly ripped out all the partition bulkheads and anything that wasn't bolted or riveted in place. Carpet, wooden paneling, furniture and light fixtures didn't stand a chance.
I have read that Titanic's stern fell 12,000 feet like a leaf, see-sawing as it sank, and slammed on to the ocean floor with such force that the many decks which comprised the vessel just collapsed in themselves. Ships just aren't built to be dropped from many thousands of feet. PS, Mike, very sharp mustache!
@@167curly After all the air filled compartments imploded, it then flipped around rudder first and entered a death spiral that it stayed in all the way to the bottom. It left a huge skid mark on the bottom that shows at the moment of impact it was still in a downward spiral. That accounts for how debris settled around it.
The relationship water to living beings is wild. It’s essential for survival but it is also one of the most destructive forces. I had always been in this school of thought regarding the Titanic stern given what we know about the sinking. Another excellent video Mike.
I can literally listen to our friend Mike talk for days. I bet he be a hell of a audio book reader. I could picture him reading a classic novel from the 1700 or something. You really do amazing work man. Some how you keep things so interesting with amazing visuals and descriptions. I know nothings about ships but I can't get enough. Keep up the great work. And dig the stash!
I could listen to you for hours Mike, and often do. I love the way you keep things simple yet so comprehensive in description and detail, please keep up the great work my friend.
Well done Mr Brady, you covered all the bases, another informative look into the Titanic hopefully putting a few misconceptions to rest. No detail to small to get the point across. Thanks to you we can put the misinformation swirling around the Titanic to rest like the ship itself on the bottom of the sea. 👍👏👏
Ugh...That painting of the Lusitania gives me major goosebumps. ( I know it's too deep but..) Imagine taking a dive into the ocean and opening your eyes and seeing something like that. Jeesus....kill me now.
I’ve often had nightmares of Titanic’s bow appearing all of a sudden out of the blackness and freaking me out, other times walking around on it only for it to collapse, or becoming trapped deep inside the wreck in a submersible and left to die lmao I don’t know if any other Titanic fans have those types of nightmares 😂
Absolutely enjoy your titanic videos. I’m a huge titanic fanatic. I’ve personally seen the exhibits up close and in person. To see the clothing, cups, notepads and the most interesting part was one of the engine telegraphs. Keep them coming.
Same. Even when I was 5 I figured the stern was wrecked by drag rather than by an implosion. The hydrodynamic forces it experienced must've been insane.
This production is beyond amazing, engrossing, informative, and beautiful! All of the illustrations by all are breathtaking. Ken Marschall's paintings are hauntingly stunning! Thank you, Friend Mike! P.S. love the 'stasch
A lot of people claimed that the Bismarck (also found by Robert Ballard in the 1980s) must have been deliberately scuttled by its crew because there is no sign of any implosion, everything had been opened up to flood it. This idea was somewhat disproved when the wreck of the USS Johnston (which had suffered a similar fate at the hands of the Japanese navy) was found on the bottom perfectly intact. It definitely hadn't been scuttled.
Thank you. There are quite a few people who agree with you, as with the level of death and absolute destruction that was going on in the final hour, the impulse would be to get off the ship. NOT go deep inside to set charges on an already doomed vessel.
Yeah. I don't doubt there were orders to scuttle the ship given but... at that point it wasn't a matter of sinking or not it was a matter of minutes instead of hours.
@@Dave5843-d9m Indeed. Bismarck was quickly disarmed and turned into a wreck by gunfire in the final battle. The main reason the British had trouble sinking it was most of their torpedoes missed or failed because of the conditions (large waves). Battleship shells only leave relatively small holes in a hull before exploding deep within the ship, so are better at disabling a ship than sinking it. But in the end the shell damage combined with the final 3 torpedoes fired at point blank range by HMS Dorsetshire (and possible torpedo hits by Rodney and Norfolk) were probably enough.
The only wreck of a surface ship that I'm aware of that has visible implosion damage is HMS Hood. There's a bunch of places in her double bottom where the shell plating has been crushed in between the stiffeners. Hood went down fast, and probably more importantly, the compartments in the double bottom were sealed. Bismarck may have implosion damage, but she's upright, and would be sitting on the damage. I don't know how well Titanic's double bottom was sealed, but if there was implosion damage, she'd also be sitting on it. Another possibility is the implosion damage is internal, where the deck forming the top of the double bottom collapses into the double bottom. The deck forming the top of the double bottom (AKA, Tank Top) is usually thinner than the shell plating, and flat, so it's going to fail first.
Those paintings were in the book by “Discovery of the Titanic” by Bob Ballard that my grandparents bought for me and my brother circa 1989-1990. We’d go mall-walking with them, and they’d usually get us each a small toy at KB Toys, but one day we went into a Waldenbooks and together agreed to combine our treats to get a large hardback book about the Titanic’s sinking and then-recent discovery. That book, when I was 9 and my brother 7, began my enduring fascination with the Titanic. My brother and I were both very much into history from very young ages. Our grandparents hesitated getting us a book about such a horrific tragedy, but correctly decided we could handle it and benefit. The stunning images in that book are seared in my brain. I’m so grateful to them. And I now search archives and online for pictures of my grandfather, who was a famous reporter in Houston, to keep his history and legacy collected.
I’m sure someone else commented on this, but in case not, I’m sure one of the things that lead Cameron to believe there had been an implosion is the sounds of the booms that survivors heard shortly after the stern disappeared, which would indicate that something happened after it left the surface with enough force for it to be heard by those in the lifeboats. It may not been an explosion, but the destruction of the stern, coupled with the logical presence of air when it went down probably made the math pretty simple.
One thing to consider is the volume of air that had to be forced out versus the size of the holes its exiting from. Lets say a cabin with a volume of 1000 cubic feet (a cube 10 feet tall, wide, and long) has a porthole roughly 3 square feet and a vent in the ceiling to ventilate the heat/air of 1 square foot. You've got to push 1000 cubic feet of air out of an opening of 4 square feet. If the force behind the air is high enough - like water rushing in at from 10-20 mph, there's gonna be a lot of air trying to escape from small holes very rapidly. I don't think you'd get an explosion per se, but definitely might get a loud pop from the air pressure. Like popping a paper bag; the air has to go somewhere and it escapes thru the weakest part of the bag with a pop.
@@ragnarredbeard4652 I would agree, furthermore I think this air rapidly trying to escape through small openings was so sufficient in force it caused major instant ruptures which could have become audible 'booms' - This would be consistent with why so much of the external hull plating is separated from the hull, and further worked off by the hydrodynamic forces at play. I'm convinced it's a combination of factors.
In 1912, when the witnesses were called to the stand to testify; every time they mentioned the ship had broken in half, they were verbally dismissed. “The titanic was incapable of breaking in half.” It was as though pride of the shipbuilders was more important than the testimony of the people who went through it.
At the British Enquiry Lightoller maintained strongly that the ship had not broken in two, and his word was accepted above that of the considerable number of survivors who had been close to the ship in its dying moments and were positive it had broken in two. It was an era where the word of an officer and a gentleman counted for more than that of the common man.
I stumbled across this channel about 2 months ago...love this guys content!! He does a GREAT job explaining this stuff and has great animation and editing!! Amazing channel and great video!!
Jim Cameron doesn’t actually say that the stern section imploded. He said that the way the ship went down, with the open part of the stern facing down, it created water pressure that started ripping the decks off. This is what tore the ship into shreds. He never said that it imploded. Maybe a long time ago, but nothing recently. Just a clarify because that’s what the whole video is based around.
Fun fact: None of those survivors actually saw the stern sink! They seemed to witness an illusion I like to call the "false-plunge". Probably as a result of the top-cant combined with the lights going out. That can be determined by how they described the final plunge: 1. Nearly none of them saw the Titanic break - those who did were witnessing another illusion; the "false-break", caused by the lights going out in sections. 2. They all described the stern taking a sudden lunge into the air rather than a gradually tilt. 3. They all described the Titanic shooting out of sight rather than sinking slowly and quietly. Nobody who appeared to actually see the stern sink mentioned hearing roars or explosions afterwards.
@@Wolfric_Rogers Could they have also mistook the 'Implosion' with the roar / explosion caused by water entering the turbine room after break as testified by Synoms and Crowe?
It's possible, though seems like it would too long after the breakup. Most who heard 'underwater explosions' specified to them be only a matter of seconds after the Titanic supposedly disappeared.
Wow! All this time, I was operating by the James Cameron implosion theory, thinking it had been proven fact. I love how we can still learn new things about Titanic. Fascinating and, as always, great video, Mike Brady!
I was out at the movies with a mate last month and we were in the topic of famous sinkings, and he said something like "yeah I saw a video about that once, I think on a channel I watch called Oceanliner Designs" and I replied, "yes, I'm familiar with our friend Mike Brady" 😂
Mike, there is a flaw in your comparison between the condition of the wrecks of the Titanic versus those of the Lusitania and Britannic. That is the depths at which they are located. Titanic is over 12,000 feet down, while the Lusitania and Britannic are only a few hundred feet down. As a result, Titanic's wreck is under an enormously greater pressure than the other two wrecks. Also, they hit the sea floor much sooner than Titanic, so the speed at impact would have been slower, resulting in less damage to them.
There isn't a flaw. If any implosion happened on the stern of Titanic, it would have happened a very short distance from the surface at a similar depth to those other wrecks. The extra depth would have made no difference.
Ever since 1985, when I vividly remember the wreck being discovered (I was parked with a boyfriend inderneath a freeway, as I recall when we heard it on the radio) and was stunned to find out that it was in two pieces (I was in total denial). That was back when the wreck site was kept an absolute secret for about a year......... But I had always assummed that the stern was falling so fast that the water being sucked along with it whammed like a giant fist once it stopped moxing (I think Ballard himself said that) (I wrote this at 10:40 so I haven't seen the whole video yet. I love sending comments midway through).
Thank you, as always, for the excellent visuals and the overlaying of your incredible illustrations of the original stern and the stern in its current state. For years, I've wanted to see that comparison. Such a fan of your content and explanations! I love the new Ismay look and look forward to your next video!
What happens when that water starts to interact with hot boilers, hot steam engines and hot coal? It seems like it was more explosion rather than implosion.
Mike, yours is the commonsense explanation. How Mr Cameron can even imagine an "implosion" is beyond me, when everything is either bent outwards, from the descent, or downward, from the "splat" of hitting the sea floor. Nice work.
Air pockets themselves implode, and something did implode within the stern section because loud booms were heard after the poop deck went under. Most likely the refrigerated lockers where food was stored. Shaft tunnels and tanks also certainly imploded, or the hatches or access points' covers caved in, and THAT involves massive forces when water pressure crushes them.
James Cameron is clearly very knowledgeable about Titanic. But he has struck me on occasion as representing himself as a greater authority than he actually is.
Our Friend Mike Brady has himself theorized implosion as being the reason for the extensive damage. He has said this is multiple videos. He’s providing another theory for the purpose of creating new content. It’s not that difficult to understand.
@@taras3702 I think that implosion might be the wrong effect. Explosions blast fully outwards. Implosions blast fully inwards. It sounds to me that neither happened. If you apply building pressures, I think that the sides are likely to fail and just have a side pop off rather than manage to reach the pressure required to make a true implosion. Titanic was a luxury oceanliner, not a warship or submarine
Passengers were still trapped in the stern section as it sank, dozens if not hundreds in their rooms. Can't imagine how horrendous that must have been.
I asked ChatGPT and it said that anybody on-board who managed to find an air pocket likely died excruciatingly painful deaths from the pressure. Basically the deaths of the people on the Titan submarine but in slow motion.
@@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_AntNo, it would be instantaneous, same as any implosion. Dont get info from gpt, it can often be incorrect. It is most likely they didnt know what was happening as they were crushed instantaneously.
@@ninthydra9980you literally just watched a video that perfectly explained to you how there was no implosion. The damaged stern was all done on the way down due to the drag of the opened up ship. If any air pocket did form it would’ve just been for a brief moment as the water rushed in. This isn’t an air tight submarine. They all passed out and drowned . Have you ever been choked unconscious? It’s not nearly as bad as you think. There’s a moment you’re trying to breathe but you’re body is beyond fight or flight there is zero chance you’re feeling any pain at all just pure panic or rushes of adrenaline. You go to sleep. Then wake up light nothing happened. Except for them when they went unconscious they basically died in their sleep. This is a titanic video not the titan video lol Edit: I said “they all drowned to death.” lol corrected.
Hi Mike, I’ve made this comment on another video but you haven’t seen it. I’ve enjoyed your videos for a long time now and think you should make a video about the SS Nomadic, the only White Star Line ship remaining, it was only a tug ship but was Titanic’s tender ship in Cherbourg and has a fascinating story and I think you could make a brilliant video about the ship.
Wasn’t a tug ship, it was a Tender vessel. It took the passengers from France to the Titanic along with its sister Traffic. I’ve been on it, well worth the visit
Even if you could get it up in one piece (impossible) the exposure to air would quickly destroy the integrity of steel and it would collapse into mess very rapidly. Just have a read up on the efforts they've had to to go to in preserving the recovered steel of the 'big piece' and the steel of the D deck gangway door.
@@jay1373Aww, how cute! Hating on a TH-camr with way more subscribers than you who puts a crap ton of effort & research into his videos isn’t going to make you look cool.
Something else that needs to be kept in mind with the stern-section is that it was structurally compromised when the bow/centre-section broke off, as the stern went down the forward facing stump was open to the immense hydrodynamic forces caused by its rapid decent and these too would've torn off pieces of the stern.
Frame 1:36 Left side of of photo. Interesting. What happened here??? The sides of the ship look to have been torn away and bent outward from the bottom. What were they attached to, and what happened to cause plates to come loose and bend outward like this??? Massive structural failure??? Were any cameras ever sent inside of this section to see what let go??? They don't show this view of the ship often. Maybe still hiding something, like they hid the break-up for 70 years until photos proved it did break-up. We may never be told, only a select few will know the whole story.
Excellent explanation. Another way to visualize the effect of force is to put your hand out the window of your car at speed. Hold it flat to the wind and you get a lot of pressure pushing your hand back; hold it like a knife into the wind and the pressure is much less. The bow went down like a knife into the water, but the stern section was basically a big flat surface pushing against the water as it sank and any openings would have allowed the water to come in, and that water would have torn yet more holes and torn away anything that wasn't strong enough to resist. No wonder the stern is so badly damaged.
I don't know why this is being brought up all the time, since Cameron showed exactly what happened to the stern after the sinking. First, the air masses trapped inside broke out and broke all weak connections, the momentum of the water mass that acted directly on the open space of the hull caused further destruction, and finally the stern, after falling to the bottom, was additionally compressed by the water that followed the stern during the descent. There is no greater philosophy here. The only thing now is to look for other versions to "shine".
What’s amazing is on some of the sonar scans you can also see where the stern struck the ground and continued spinning as a skidding car in dirt, showing the spiral in the dirt by the landing zone of the stern.
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Oops - misspoke, Titanic is 4,000 meters down and not 4,000km :) And yes, I am growing a Bruce Ismay moustache.
Epic moustache
You do know that growing a moustache obligates you to at least once twirl it while laughing evilly, right? It‘s the duty of every moustache-haver.
If you're not gonna twirl that moustache while laughing evilly, the world will be much disappointed
What a lad! Owning up to his mistakes and growing a epic mustache!❤
@@TooSickToDressVictorian that is my ultimate goal :’)
Ken Marshall deserves his own video... the man singlehandedly created the images of Titanics wreck we all recognize. Beautifully haunting paintings by an incredible artist
they were the first depictions of Titanic that i saw as a child, which created the fascination that lasts to this day...i would love a video on him, that would be amazing
There is a video about his art works on this channel I'm pretty sure
I'd love to see this video too! Amazing art.
Were it not for his Titanic paintings, which I first saw at an impressionable age, I would not have gotten as interested in civilian and military maritime history as I am today.
Ken Marshall, to me, is a legend.
I still have a copy of the 1980s Scholastic book for kids by Bob Ballard about the TItanic's discovery (got the grown-up version later) with Ken's paintings throughout. The detail was so impressive that it wasn't until I was much older that I even realized many of the images of the wreck were PAINTINGS. It didn't occur to me that as black as the ocean is, there's no way you could see that much down there at once. Then I got a better look and noticed the colors and strokes. Just so much detail. Became a shipwreck nut with the NG documentary & that book.
And of course I made sure to get "Titanic: An Illustrated History" as soon as I could (hee hee).
I was just a kid but I can still remember that morning in 1985 when my dad woke me up early all excited that they had found Titanic , at the time I had no idea what he was talking about, it ended up starting an obsession that is still with me to this day
I started a little later with the Return to the Titanic broadcast.
The start of oceangate
@@johndoles3713but this time it’s a tv remote
Was the movie of raising the titanic before or after that? They towed it back to a harbour...
they should get the Titanic from the bottom of the ocean! we have the best technology on the planet there's nothing we can't do! Idgaf what anyone else has to say about it. People saying shit like we shouldn't touch the Titanic. so we should just leave it down there to rust away and in about 20 to 30more years their will be nothing left that's what you're saying🤔 I want my tax dollars to go towards Preserving the Titanic!
Marschall's paintings being pieced together from hundreds of photos makes them even more beautiful and impressive
Thank you for this stern lecture.
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Pun joke
Heh….. nice
Congratulations, you made a lame joke, take a bow.
@@areyouavinalaff😂😂 Yours was somehow worse yet better at the same time
Our friend Mike Brady has a moustache now, he’s becoming more classical by the day
I love the stache
@@courtneyismichaelcaptain birdseye 9000
Fuzzy Face!
but a friendly one
He looks like he could be on the Titanic now
Sorry Mike, it doesn’t suit you one bit and spoils your good looks
For some reason, my interest in titanic has skyrocketed and I can never get enough information that happened to her that night. I appreciate these videos you’re making, and how much knowledge you had to learn to explain how everything took place that night. Oh, and rest in peace to all those that lost their lives to this tragedy 🙏
The reason is the titan submersible incident last summer. "For some reason"
@@Dime_time333a lot of people have been interested in Titanic long before the titan submersible
@@Dime_time333that caught my attention, but my interest in it like I said just gained way more over the past month or so
@josesarabia8829 I had a mild.obsession as a kid. Got Robert Ballard's book after seeing the movie. Funny how my mom was only concerned with the boobies, and not the mass scale disaster at the end lol.
I think it's because we really can learn so much from the incident and resulting loss of life, from an engineering perspective, AND a leadership perspective.
The weakest place on the ship was the engine room, being such a large open space. The weight of the engines caused it to go straight down, accelerating, and the flow of the water peeled the skin off.
Add to all this the water column that's being formed behind her as she goes downward, then slamming into the sea floor with the weakened structure partially collapsing, only to then be immediately hit by that column of water following her, further collapsing the structure. Then all the years of being eaten away at and she begins to collapse further under her own weight, to the point we see today.
@@kivulifenrir We also don't know to what extent fully did the Grand Banks earthquake of 1929 contributed to the damage that was seen in 1985/1986. Did decks collapse further down faster and farther than they otherwise would have?
@@EricCoop no mate it was the strongest point on the ship with regards to its weight mate ? James
@@jamesfitzpatrick9869 The keel was taller and made of even heavier plates and girders under the engine room due to the immense weight of the reciprocating engines. Just the foundations for them weighed 200 tons each. The place where the keel jackknifed and bent upwards was where it transitioned from the six foot height to the nearly seven foot height.
It sank with rest of her
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And you beat me to it as well!
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So then you beat me to it, to beating me to it for beating me to it.
A lot of beating.
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The titanics stern has always fascinated me. Mainly because most videos cover the bow and if there is one on the Stern, you don't get much of a video about it
Same for me. I’ve always wondered why they have never sent one of the small robots into the stern holes. There are plenty of spaces to do so.
Most of those who died inside the ship were in the stern, including several hundred steerage crew if you believe certain stories and many of the firemen, stokers and engineers. The stern is a grave-site in a way the bow section just isn't
@@Sumermak During an expedition in 2001, James Cameron sent a robot into the engine room. He wanted to get into the turbine compartment. The robot walked through the center between the engines, but ran into the watertight bulkhead “L”, the door of which was closed. It was impossible to move further and had to return. Also, Cameron wanted to explore the A la Carte restaurant by sending a robot there. Ken Marshall told Cameron that the restaurant's siding was still intact and it was possible to get inside. But when the robot approached the restaurant site, it turned out that the restaurant's paneling was missing and the decks were compressed. Ken Marshall's assumption turned out to be wrong. In the mid-90s, a French-American expedition was carried out. Researcher Paul-Henri Nargeolet decided to send the robot into the 3rd class stairwell shaft at the stern. But, according to him, there was nothing to see there. Not a trace remains of the cabins or interiors. But it was not possible to move deeper into the stern. Unfortunately, these frames are not publicly available
We shouldn't forget that the stern was substantially structurally compromised by the breakup, with rivets sheared all over the place and, depending on the actual process of the breakup, potentially having the keel peeled off the ship over several frames. This allowed the water and seafloor to devastate the structure even more effectively.
Indeed. If it had broken cleanly enough with the bulkheads still intact, the stern could in theory have remained afloat on its own.
@@philiphumphrey1548 I dont get why the bulkheads werent intact though?? The water was sinking the ship on the other end?
@@KingKhan20000the bulk heads didn’t go all the way up. So the list of the ship eventually allows water to go over the bulkheads top and start filling the next section. But I may have misunderstood what you were asking lol just trying to be helpful
@@str8dnocuddldadshome213 Yes I understand that but the guy said in his comment were not 'still' intact as if something went wrong with them... As for the sinking well much of the stern and second half of the ship wasnt filled with water until the very end when it got forced under.
Sound like the break-up was caused by structural, or even massive structural failure. Something may not have been constructed or designed the way it should have. just saying
The Titanic exhibition is currently in Germany, and we have just visited today. It was exciting, breathtaking and terrifying all at the same time.
Where in Germany?
What? Where?
Oh my god, where??
Ludwigsburg, but just till end of December.
Yeah, I live around two hours from there and will definitive watch it. Was so happy when I got the news.
0:34 “nearly 4000 kilometer drop” little typo there.
dropped from space
xD
That would be a LONG way down
@@OceanlinerDesigns 4 million meter drop
Hit one of the icebergs on the seas of Europa.
Being dropped from 4,000 kilometers, the fact that it is semi recongnizable is a true testament to the quality of Harlond and Wolf ship building.
They made it from the highest quality adamantium.
4,000 kilometers, really!...😂
It was a mistake, it’s only 4000 meters down
But the fact that it rode over top of some ice and got a huge gash and broke it half kind of hurts the harland and wolf ship building reputation
Which is funny since the quality of steel for the day wasn't the great.
When I started learning about Titanic, when I saw both photos of the bow and stern, I was shocked to see such a difference. Bow almost intact, stern destroyed.
I've been a Titanic nerd since at least 1987, and this channel somehow always brings things that I needed to know.
Oh hello my close personal friend, Mike Brady. Nice mustache btw.
This is the clearest explanation I’ve ever heard for how the water pressure factor worked. Excellent job!! Great teacher 🎉
The Derbyshire wreck is a good example of implosion she's in a million pieces minus the bow
Was thinking about the same, but the Derbyshire had a double hull and waterthight oil tanks. Also she didn't break up and sank in one piece.
It's your friend Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs with a fabulous moustache!
Kudos to the talented artist Ken Marschall, whose art gives us a good idea of the Titanic's state. Just checked out some his other paintings.... He's amazing!
The reason the ships you mention weren't affected by implosion to any great scale is because neither Lusitania (91 m depth) and Britannic (122 m depth), never reached a crush depth. Thus air was allowed to flow out through the myriad thousands of small openings relatively gently long after they sank.
Titanic's bow and stern did reach a crush depth within at most a few minutes, probably somewhere in the range of 200-400 meters depending on the thickness of the steel of compartments, like the large cold storage rooms in the stern, or the partially empty freshwater tanks, propeller shaft tunnels, etc. the implosions of which would've released air, causing the poop deck to weaken and fold back on itself in the rushing flow of water. The spinning motion of the stern probably didn't help anything with that centrifugal force weakening the damaged sections near the breakup point, causing them to detach and get flung away.
There are a lot of ships that sank as fast as stern and reached the crash depth and yet none of them imploded
@@xxdeckxxdumanyan7413 That actually happens on wrecks that wind up in very deep waters, but you don't see the effects very much because the exterior shell of the hull and decks remained relatively intact, especially if they're heavily built warships.
On Titanic, we see in the still in-place boilers visible in the open remains of Boiler Room 2, the boilers' faces are dimpled in because, while tough, they still got almost crushed in by the onrush of water when the bow reached a depth where that could happen. Luckily, it looks like there was enough water still in them to prevent them from completely imploding and causing further massive damage in that already heavily damaged area.
@@xxdeckxxdumanyan7413 All deep wrecks have implosions on some level. But to implode a hull you need exceptional circumstances, as with the mini-sub where the entire hull collapsed at once. But that boat was tiny. This was impossible in Titanic's case with the scale of the hull, all the damage, escape points and water inside. But there must have been implosions going on inside her. The Maths says there must. Survivors heard them too
So more than likely the passengers who went down with the ship imploded as well, and that's why no bodies were ever found
“Crush depth” depends on the material of the structure, and weather it’s watertight or not. A ship that’s been cut in half is not watertight and the majority of the compartments within the structure were also not watertight. Water compresses air, compressed air will find the fastest way out, and will buckle the structures around it to do so. The only areas of the stern that possibly could have imploded were any that could be sealed and made airtight, meaning that 99% of the ship could not have imploded.
This was by far the best video of what really happened to the stern section as it was freefalling through the water collum on its way down to the bottom of the ocean. Honestly, I never even thought about hydrodynamic drag being a crucial factor in the destruction of the stern section. I always was under the assumption that the stern imploded. Of course, this happened to Bismarck's 50 foot or so stern as she left the surface. Great video as always, Mike, and I'm liking the mustache you're rocking.
I have been fascinated with Titanic since the 5th grade (I'm now 61). One day in the 5th grade, we had to stay indoors after lunch due to rain. We were taken to the school's library. I was looking through an encyclopedia (that was our Google back then 😁), reading anout the Statue of Liberty 🗽 (my other fascination). I read the next volume & saw Titanic. Ever since then, I've been so interested in it. I'm glad I found your channel 😊
Gotta love a titanic video from our friend Mike Brady
With a MUSTACHE.
I’ve always believed that the bow section dragged the stern underneath several, if not hundreds of meters below before they completely separated, twisting and wringing themselves from each other until they finally tore free. It would explain a great deal of the otherwise “inexplicable” damage. Great job as always Mike! I always look forward to your tremendous content!
That wouldn't have happened, given that the stern sank slowly.
In fact, using the times given by survivors with watches, it can be determined that the Titanic's stern section took a bit more or less than five minutes to sink post-break.
If the bow section had remained attached, it would have simply pulled the stern section down in less than a minute.
Water WAS rushing through the stern section as it freefell to the bottom. That certainly ripped out all the partition bulkheads and anything that wasn't bolted or riveted in place. Carpet, wooden paneling, furniture and light fixtures didn't stand a chance.
I have read that Titanic's stern fell 12,000 feet like a leaf, see-sawing as it sank, and slammed on to the ocean floor with such force that the many decks which comprised the vessel just collapsed in themselves. Ships just aren't built to be dropped from many thousands of feet. PS, Mike, very sharp mustache!
@@167curly After all the air filled compartments imploded, it then flipped around rudder first and entered a death spiral that it stayed in all the way to the bottom. It left a huge skid mark on the bottom that shows at the moment of impact it was still in a downward spiral. That accounts for how debris settled around it.
This is why I love your channel so much! A common sense, and almost undeniable explanation of what happened paired with the visuals to back it.
The relationship water to living beings is wild. It’s essential for survival but it is also one of the most destructive forces. I had always been in this school of thought regarding the Titanic stern given what we know about the sinking. Another excellent video Mike.
Many sections of Titanic are now totally destroyed and unrecognizable... but, even 112 years later, the pool is still full of water.
Haha
They definitely need to send the pool guy down to clean it up. Also, send a tow truck to get the Rolls out.
I can literally listen to our friend Mike talk for days. I bet he be a hell of a audio book reader. I could picture him reading a classic novel from the 1700 or something. You really do amazing work man. Some how you keep things so interesting with amazing visuals and descriptions. I know nothings about ships but I can't get enough. Keep up the great work. And dig the stash!
What happened to Titanic's stern? After the iceberg gave her an attitude adjustment she decided to not be so stern and just chill.
your titanic talking is all ive been listening to while studying for the past 2 days
Those air pockets were what briefly kept the stern afloat. That mustache thou ...could be used as a floation device.
I could listen to you for hours Mike, and often do. I love the way you keep things simple yet so comprehensive in description and detail, please keep up the great work my friend.
It would be interesting to see a painting of the wreck as she would have appeared the day she hit the bottom before all the corrosion set in.
Well done Mr Brady, you covered all the bases, another informative look into the Titanic hopefully putting a few misconceptions to rest. No detail to small to get the point across. Thanks to you we can put the misinformation swirling around the Titanic to rest like the ship itself on the bottom of the sea. 👍👏👏
4.000 km drop? It fell from space? Damn.... tough built...
The scene in early S3 of Battlestar Galactica was inspired by reality. :P
Sometimes I forget how fascinating Titanic's story is. Everything about this ship is special...Great video!❤
Ugh...That painting of the Lusitania gives me major goosebumps. ( I know it's too deep but..) Imagine taking a dive into the ocean and opening your eyes and seeing something like that. Jeesus....kill me now.
I’ve often had nightmares of Titanic’s bow appearing all of a sudden out of the blackness and freaking me out, other times walking around on it only for it to collapse, or becoming trapped deep inside the wreck in a submersible and left to die lmao I don’t know if any other Titanic fans have those types of nightmares 😂
Absolutely enjoy your titanic videos. I’m a huge titanic fanatic. I’ve personally seen the exhibits up close and in person. To see the clothing, cups, notepads and the most interesting part was one of the engine telegraphs. Keep them coming.
FINALLY we have a major titanic commentator explaining this. “Titanic’s stern imploded” has been giving me migraines for years.
Same. Even when I was 5 I figured the stern was wrecked by drag rather than by an implosion. The hydrodynamic forces it experienced must've been insane.
This production is beyond amazing, engrossing, informative, and beautiful! All of the illustrations by all are breathtaking.
Ken Marschall's paintings are hauntingly stunning!
Thank you, Friend Mike! P.S. love the 'stasch
A lot of people claimed that the Bismarck (also found by Robert Ballard in the 1980s) must have been deliberately scuttled by its crew because there is no sign of any implosion, everything had been opened up to flood it. This idea was somewhat disproved when the wreck of the USS Johnston (which had suffered a similar fate at the hands of the Japanese navy) was found on the bottom perfectly intact. It definitely hadn't been scuttled.
Thank you. There are quite a few people who agree with you, as with the level of death and absolute destruction that was going on in the final hour, the impulse would be to get off the ship. NOT go deep inside to set charges on an already doomed vessel.
Yeah. I don't doubt there were orders to scuttle the ship given but... at that point it wasn't a matter of sinking or not it was a matter of minutes instead of hours.
It hardly matters if Bismarck was scuttled. She was quickly made totally battle incapable with the British just wanting her gone.
@@Dave5843-d9m Indeed. Bismarck was quickly disarmed and turned into a wreck by gunfire in the final battle. The main reason the British had trouble sinking it was most of their torpedoes missed or failed because of the conditions (large waves). Battleship shells only leave relatively small holes in a hull before exploding deep within the ship, so are better at disabling a ship than sinking it. But in the end the shell damage combined with the final 3 torpedoes fired at point blank range by HMS Dorsetshire (and possible torpedo hits by Rodney and Norfolk) were probably enough.
The only wreck of a surface ship that I'm aware of that has visible implosion damage is HMS Hood. There's a bunch of places in her double bottom where the shell plating has been crushed in between the stiffeners. Hood went down fast, and probably more importantly, the compartments in the double bottom were sealed. Bismarck may have implosion damage, but she's upright, and would be sitting on the damage.
I don't know how well Titanic's double bottom was sealed, but if there was implosion damage, she'd also be sitting on it.
Another possibility is the implosion damage is internal, where the deck forming the top of the double bottom collapses into the double bottom. The deck forming the top of the double bottom (AKA, Tank Top) is usually thinner than the shell plating, and flat, so it's going to fail first.
Great video and excellent explanation of how the stern of the ship became so damaged.
You posted. Then it said private. I thought Mike Brady didn’t want to be my friend anymore 😢
Never!
Only OGs know this
I read it with Val Kilmer's Doc Holiday in Tombstone 😁
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@@ToreDL87 "I've got two 'private' buttons, one for each of you." 😉
Those paintings were in the book by “Discovery of the Titanic” by Bob Ballard that my grandparents bought for me and my brother circa 1989-1990. We’d go mall-walking with them, and they’d usually get us each a small toy at KB Toys, but one day we went into a Waldenbooks and together agreed to combine our treats to get a large hardback book about the Titanic’s sinking and then-recent discovery. That book, when I was 9 and my brother 7, began my enduring fascination with the Titanic. My brother and I were both very much into history from very young ages. Our grandparents hesitated getting us a book about such a horrific tragedy, but correctly decided we could handle it and benefit. The stunning images in that book are seared in my brain.
I’m so grateful to them. And I now search archives and online for pictures of my grandfather, who was a famous reporter in Houston, to keep his history and legacy collected.
I’m sure someone else commented on this, but in case not, I’m sure one of the things that lead Cameron to believe there had been an implosion is the sounds of the booms that survivors heard shortly after the stern disappeared, which would indicate that something happened after it left the surface with enough force for it to be heard by those in the lifeboats. It may not been an explosion, but the destruction of the stern, coupled with the logical presence of air when it went down probably made the math pretty simple.
One thing to consider is the volume of air that had to be forced out versus the size of the holes its exiting from. Lets say a cabin with a volume of 1000 cubic feet (a cube 10 feet tall, wide, and long) has a porthole roughly 3 square feet and a vent in the ceiling to ventilate the heat/air of 1 square foot. You've got to push 1000 cubic feet of air out of an opening of 4 square feet. If the force behind the air is high enough - like water rushing in at from 10-20 mph, there's gonna be a lot of air trying to escape from small holes very rapidly. I don't think you'd get an explosion per se, but definitely might get a loud pop from the air pressure. Like popping a paper bag; the air has to go somewhere and it escapes thru the weakest part of the bag with a pop.
@@ragnarredbeard4652 I would agree, furthermore I think this air rapidly trying to escape through small openings was so sufficient in force it caused major instant ruptures which could have become audible 'booms' - This would be consistent with why so much of the external hull plating is separated from the hull, and further worked off by the hydrodynamic forces at play. I'm convinced it's a combination of factors.
Well done.
Very informative without over complicating it.
May they rest in peace.
In 1912, when the witnesses were called to the stand to testify; every time they mentioned the ship had broken in half, they were verbally dismissed.
“The titanic was incapable of breaking in half.”
It was as though pride of the shipbuilders was more important than the testimony of the people who went through it.
Similar if there was any doubt about it being the Californian that was nearby
At the British Enquiry Lightoller maintained strongly that the ship had not broken in two, and his word was accepted above that of the considerable number of survivors who had been close to the ship in its dying moments and were positive it had broken in two. It was an era where the word of an officer and a gentleman counted for more than that of the common man.
Has anything changed? Human beings are by nature arrogant and prideful.
This whole scenario is horrifying. I can barely comprehend something so big dying so violently.
No matter how alone I sometimes feel, I know I always have one friend… Mike Brady.
Ty for another awesome video!
I stumbled across this channel about 2 months ago...love this guys content!! He does a GREAT job explaining this stuff and has great animation and editing!! Amazing channel and great video!!
Jim Cameron doesn’t actually say that the stern section imploded. He said that the way the ship went down, with the open part of the stern facing down, it created water pressure that started ripping the decks off. This is what tore the ship into shreds. He never said that it imploded. Maybe a long time ago, but nothing recently. Just a clarify because that’s what the whole video is based around.
Awesome hypothesis. After watching your video, that makes more sense then an air bubble tearing the stern down. Thank you!
There were even survivor accounts of hearing "loud booms" below them in the water after the stern went down.
Fun fact: None of those survivors actually saw the stern sink! They seemed to witness an illusion I like to call the "false-plunge". Probably as a result of the top-cant combined with the lights going out.
That can be determined by how they described the final plunge:
1. Nearly none of them saw the Titanic break - those who did were witnessing another illusion; the "false-break", caused by the lights going out in sections.
2. They all described the stern taking a sudden lunge into the air rather than a gradually tilt.
3. They all described the Titanic shooting out of sight rather than sinking slowly and quietly.
Nobody who appeared to actually see the stern sink mentioned hearing roars or explosions afterwards.
@@Wolfric_Rogers Could they have also mistook the 'Implosion' with the roar / explosion caused by water entering the turbine room after break as testified by Synoms and Crowe?
It's possible, though seems like it would too long after the breakup.
Most who heard 'underwater explosions' specified to them be only a matter of seconds after the Titanic supposedly disappeared.
@@Wolfric_Rogersbig claims by you bud. Lol
@@GeorgeLucas1138, I have read over 1200 accounts of the sinking.
I have plenty of evidence to verify my claims.
Amazing analysis Mike. It makes a lot of sense given the design details you pointed out.
Our friend Mike Brady keeps getting cuter and cuter! That mustache!
Wow! All this time, I was operating by the James Cameron implosion theory, thinking it had been proven fact. I love how we can still learn new things about Titanic. Fascinating and, as always, great video, Mike Brady!
I was out at the movies with a mate last month and we were in the topic of famous sinkings, and he said something like "yeah I saw a video about that once, I think on a channel I watch called Oceanliner Designs" and I replied, "yes, I'm familiar with our friend Mike Brady" 😂
That would have been awesome
Mike, there is a flaw in your comparison between the condition of the wrecks of the Titanic versus those of the Lusitania and Britannic. That is the depths at which they are located. Titanic is over 12,000 feet down, while the Lusitania and Britannic are only a few hundred feet down. As a result, Titanic's wreck is under an enormously greater pressure than the other two wrecks. Also, they hit the sea floor much sooner than Titanic, so the speed at impact would have been slower, resulting in less damage to them.
There isn't a flaw. If any implosion happened on the stern of Titanic, it would have happened a very short distance from the surface at a similar depth to those other wrecks. The extra depth would have made no difference.
I clicked on this video when I got the alert and it came up as private. Good to see it's all working now... Great video.
So happy to call mike brady my friend
I've never seen this much footage of the stern! FASCINATING. Thank you!
Love the stache Mike!
Very thorough deep dive. I like the details and the way you explained it
Ever since 1985, when I vividly remember the wreck being discovered (I was parked with a boyfriend inderneath a freeway, as I recall when we heard it on the radio) and was stunned to find out that it was in two pieces (I was in total denial). That was back when the wreck site was kept an absolute secret for about a year......... But I had always assummed that the stern was falling so fast that the water being sucked along with it whammed like a giant fist once it stopped moxing (I think Ballard himself said that) (I wrote this at 10:40 so I haven't seen the whole video yet. I love sending comments midway through).
I always knew it broke in 2.
Because I was born in '87 😂
Thank you, as always, for the excellent visuals and the overlaying of your incredible illustrations of the original stern and the stern in its current state. For years, I've wanted to see that comparison. Such a fan of your content and explanations! I love the new Ismay look and look forward to your next video!
4,000km drop? Awesome.
Fascinating take on something that's been puzzling me about the disaster. Good job, Mr. Brady.
What happens when that water starts to interact with hot boilers, hot steam engines and hot coal? It seems like it was more explosion rather than implosion.
Steam was totally ventilated by Captain's order within the first hour after the iceberg hitting. There was residual heat, obviously, but not pressure.
I didn’t expect to watch this whole thing but it was an interesting take on an old story so I stayed with it!
Brilliant mate
Our friend Mike Brady never let's us down... very detailed and informative video!!
Mike, yours is the commonsense explanation. How Mr Cameron can even imagine an "implosion" is beyond me, when everything is either bent outwards, from the descent, or downward, from the "splat" of hitting the sea floor. Nice work.
Air pockets themselves implode, and something did implode within the stern section because loud booms were heard after the poop deck went under. Most likely the refrigerated lockers where food was stored. Shaft tunnels and tanks also certainly imploded, or the hatches or access points' covers caved in, and THAT involves massive forces when water pressure crushes them.
James Cameron is clearly very knowledgeable about Titanic. But he has struck me on occasion as representing himself as a greater authority than he actually is.
@@LarcR Yup. Being a history major doesn't automatically confer an understanding of physics.
Our Friend Mike Brady has himself theorized implosion as being the reason for the extensive damage. He has said this is multiple videos. He’s providing another theory for the purpose of creating new content. It’s not that difficult to understand.
@@taras3702 I think that implosion might be the wrong effect. Explosions blast fully outwards. Implosions blast fully inwards. It sounds to me that neither happened. If you apply building pressures, I think that the sides are likely to fail and just have a side pop off rather than manage to reach the pressure required to make a true implosion. Titanic was a luxury oceanliner, not a warship or submarine
Great video Mr Ismay Jr. Found it far more interesting than most high production documentaries I've seen.
Passengers were still trapped in the stern section as it sank, dozens if not hundreds in their rooms. Can't imagine how horrendous that must have been.
Terrifying
I asked ChatGPT and it said that anybody on-board who managed to find an air pocket likely died excruciatingly painful deaths from the pressure. Basically the deaths of the people on the Titan submarine but in slow motion.
@@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_AntNo, it would be instantaneous, same as any implosion. Dont get info from gpt, it can often be incorrect. It is most likely they didnt know what was happening as they were crushed instantaneously.
@@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_AntChatgpt. Answer immediately discarded.
@@ninthydra9980you literally just watched a video that perfectly explained to you how there was no implosion. The damaged stern was all done on the way down due to the drag of the opened up ship. If any air pocket did form it would’ve just been for a brief moment as the water rushed in. This isn’t an air tight submarine. They all passed out and drowned . Have you ever been choked unconscious? It’s not nearly as bad as you think. There’s a moment you’re trying to breathe but you’re body is beyond fight or flight there is zero chance you’re feeling any pain at all just pure panic or rushes of adrenaline. You go to sleep. Then wake up light nothing happened. Except for them when they went unconscious they basically died in their sleep. This is a titanic video not the titan video lol
Edit: I said “they all drowned to death.” lol corrected.
Fascinating. This really makes more sense than an implosion.
Our friend Mike Brady is growing a mustache, this is not a drill people!
those paintings are incredible… wow.
Hi Mike, I’ve made this comment on another video but you haven’t seen it. I’ve enjoyed your videos for a long time now and think you should make a video about the SS Nomadic, the only White Star Line ship remaining, it was only a tug ship but was Titanic’s tender ship in Cherbourg and has a fascinating story and I think you could make a brilliant video about the ship.
Wasn’t a tug ship, it was a Tender vessel. It took the passengers from France to the Titanic along with its sister Traffic. I’ve been on it, well worth the visit
@@MRRossboy1 Oh yeah, sorry I typed this very quickly
Fantastic lecture, Mike - well reasoned and clearly explained. Thank you!
It's our friend, Bruce Ismay.
If we somehow, SOMEHOW. Get the titanics bow up, I don’t possibly think we could get the stern, there’s no way. Unless damage happens.
Even if you could get it up in one piece (impossible) the exposure to air would quickly destroy the integrity of steel and it would collapse into mess very rapidly. Just have a read up on the efforts they've had to to go to in preserving the recovered steel of the 'big piece' and the steel of the D deck gangway door.
Fascinating Mike. I have always wondered as to why the out come of the stern is the way it is.
Why was the last video privated ?
Because he didn‘t mention being our friend Mike Brady.
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You’re one to watch Logan Paul, huh
@@jay1373Aww, how cute! Hating on a TH-camr with way more subscribers than you who puts a crap ton of effort & research into his videos isn’t going to make you look cool.
@@jay1373 W A N K E R
It had a compression error I saw just a moment after I hit ‘publish’!
This man is incredible, I learned so much about Titanic from you
Something else that needs to be kept in mind with the stern-section is that it was structurally compromised when the bow/centre-section broke off, as the stern went down the forward facing stump was open to the immense hydrodynamic forces caused by its rapid decent and these too would've torn off pieces of the stern.
That's... the whole point of the video.
@@p3rks I wrote the comment at the start of the video.
@@nicholasmaude6906 obviously.
u put so much work into your videos, and it shows ! thanks !
Frame 1:36 Left side of of photo. Interesting. What happened here??? The sides of the ship look to have been torn away and bent outward from the bottom. What were they attached to, and what happened to cause plates to come loose and bend outward like this??? Massive structural failure??? Were any cameras ever sent inside of this section to see what let go??? They don't show this view of the ship often. Maybe still hiding something, like they hid the break-up for 70 years until photos proved it did break-up. We may never be told, only a select few will know the whole story.
Excellent explanation. Another way to visualize the effect of force is to put your hand out the window of your car at speed. Hold it flat to the wind and you get a lot of pressure pushing your hand back; hold it like a knife into the wind and the pressure is much less. The bow went down like a knife into the water, but the stern section was basically a big flat surface pushing against the water as it sank and any openings would have allowed the water to come in, and that water would have torn yet more holes and torn away anything that wasn't strong enough to resist. No wonder the stern is so badly damaged.
Absolutely.
You can't convince me you weren't on the Titanic at this point.
Been waiting for you to do this video for at least over a year. Excited to watch.
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@@ResoluteHedgehog09 😅👏
Once again an amazing video about one of the most fascinating and tragic sinking of all time, presented by our friend Mike Brady.
Did you know, that the pools in the Titanic are still filled with water?
surely it must have splashed out during the sinking.
😂
So are the bathtubs, if any are left.
the lobsters in the kitchen thought it was a miracle.
Wow, what a fresh and original joke.
Nobody ever cracks that one. 🙄
Such a natural for what you're doing. Well done!
I don't know why this is being brought up all the time, since Cameron showed exactly what happened to the stern after the sinking. First, the air masses trapped inside broke out and broke all weak connections, the momentum of the water mass that acted directly on the open space of the hull caused further destruction, and finally the stern, after falling to the bottom, was additionally compressed by the water that followed the stern during the descent. There is no greater philosophy here. The only thing now is to look for other versions to "shine".
Because Cameron incorrectly says there was an implosion which isn’t true.
Just watch the video. It wasn't from implosions, it was simply water forces tearing apart the non streamlined stern section.
What’s amazing is on some of the sonar scans you can also see where the stern struck the ground and continued spinning as a skidding car in dirt, showing the spiral in the dirt by the landing zone of the stern.
Just imagine how creepy it would be if Titanic's wreck was never found. No debris, nothing, despite searching thoroughly for years.