Is Nik Nocturnal WRONG about everything??
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I react to Nik Nocturnals predictions for metal in 2023: thall (Humanity's Last Breath), shoegaze (Loathe), post-hardcore, Brand Of Sacrifice, and more.
Nik Nocturnal's metal in 2023 video: • Metal in 2023
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Whitechapel don’t get enough credit with pioneering the melodic Deathcore stuff. They’ve been incorporating melodies into their brand of Deathcore in measured doses since a couple of albums already.
They don’t get their due credit. Phil Bozeman is such a versatile and compelling vocalist too.
Just say No to shoegaze. 🚫 👞 👀
Whether you agree with Nik or not, you gotta appreciate his passion and excitement for metal.
It's facts
His voice makes him so punchable
Fr i thought the metal community on TH-cam was dead until I found his channel
@Dragon Ball fans can't read I ain't reading all that but I'm happy for you or sorry that happened
@dragonballfanscantread2383dude I see you everywhere on TH-cam and all you do is start dumb arguments with people over what you think is metal and what’s not. I’m legitimately concerned for your well being. Putting this much of your energy into something so trivial can’t be healthy. Here for you.
I can see shoegaze getting big for the exact reason that I enjoy it; it sounds dreamy, and sometimes a sonic aesthetic matters more than some easily-recalled musical substance, like a hook or a breakdown.
Exactly. It’s not about hooks or some kind of feel good payoff so much as it is about vibe and atmosphere.
Especially now when so many people are listening in ways that make the vibe more important. If you're trying to study or focus on some kind of work, then a catchy hook or breakdown can defeat that. A background vibe can be more conducive to that. Another interesting way how societal change is influencing what music we choose to listen to, which in turn changes what music is actually becoming most influential.
Shoegaze is so trendy already. Every hipster listen to slowdive and mbv
Yeah, the fact that there is a whole subsection of youtube that's just songs remixed as if you were in the bathroom of the club is proof enough that atmospheric songs can take off.
can see more hardcore bands messing with it or doing side projects.
Bad omens is perfect for younger crowds. The melodic almost edm construction, and chunky guitars. I find that the vocalist is perfect for younger people. Very unique and contrasting multiple times per song.
As a young person who loves them another point I’d add, is that they have a lot of song variety. I’m a singles person; I don’t listen to albums because I get bored of what sounds like the same song in different ways for 13 tracks. Bad Omens latest album switched up the kinds of sounds in their songs so much that I can listen to the entire thing without getting bored. I think that could also be true for other younger people
@revues de minuit I understand that! I am 20, but I am a huge album fan. I like to be fully immersed for long periods of time in music. The latest album is a perfect balance with blending both younger and older views together. It sound alot like Melodic Metalcore which is a huge switch for me too.
Trivium and BMTH are the only other ones
What subgenres are I Prevail are?
@@christiandauz3742 oh yeah. I like I prevail. It's all just a mix of edm and metal. Always satisfying
@@MoraMorbid
I thought I Prevail is Nu-Metal/metalcore?
Especially with 'Body Bag' which sounds like Linkin Park + Slipknot
I used to be a genre nerd but I’ve pretty much just have been seeing all of these sub genres kind of just prove to me that it’s just all metal but with maybe some Deathcore in there or hardcore etc. I love how diverse metal has become and I’m all for it
These days i only care about genres when I'm trying to describe a band to someone. It's very difficult.
@dragonballfanscantread2383 well yeah, but the metal sub genres I mean that are in there, pop, rap, and like indie are like other genres I hear in lots of metal, some of the other genres I love listening too, shits cool
@@Thermobyte true bro
@dragonballfanscantread2383ut it falls under the scope of metal doesn’t it? I referred to my music as metal the other day and someone kinda turned their nose up at me I didnt understand.
I think that Shoegaze is something that will influence more of the production side of the metal scene than the writing. The wall of sound signature of the genre is something I see becoming popular with metal people if it mixes with heavier things like breakdowns to create heavy but melodic vibeier songs while also not being as jam heavy as what shoegaze usually is. All the stuff with pedals can be done with digital modelers now.
I'm really excited for the new Narrow Head album in February. They blend Hardcore, Shoegaze, and Grunge in a really interesting way. They kind of remind me of Hum or some of Deftones more shoegaze influenced stuff
Saw the Loathe and Static Dress tour twice and it was easily one of the best and most fun shows I’ve been two. A lot of ppl that were there were in their early to mid twenties and it’s crazy how popular Loathe’s “I Let It In And It Took Everything” is for being two and half years old
Static Dress’s Rouge Carpet Disaster was dope AF too
Fit For An Autopsy is easily the deathcore band that's best at incorporating emotion. Like, "Your Pain is Mine" literally made me cry. A deathcore song. Made me cry.
Best deathcore band in the game
That song slaps hard ofc
That whole album is insane. Mirrors hits like a truck too!
finally some love for them !!!
Requiem from angelmaker is similar, that and your pain is mine conveyed more sadness than I thought possible for the genre
Yes
I think shoegaze, despite not being that catchy, definitely has the potential to take off. A lot of people care a lot about the "vibes" now, rather than just caring about hooks
I think that's true too. But has there ever been a breakout artist that gets by purely on vibes?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA I'm not sure about musicians in particular, but I'd say trance/psytrance and other EDM genres like that are vibes based - and I'd say trance has a huge following.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA there's some UK band on TikTok that is farming views by claiming that they are bringing "guitar music" back or something. Always makes me roll my eyes. I listen to plenty of tech death and prog metal, so yeah, sure, impress me with your 2 chords with like 10 effect pedals that add nothing.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Beach House for sure
@@FinnMckentyPRMBAAllot of rappers like Playboi Carti and Lil Uzi vert
Finn: I like hooks, I like emotion, I like melody, I like catchy poppy tunes.
Power metal: We have those.
Finn: No, not like that.
:p
Maybe he'd like Dragoncorpse: a band that mixes deathcore with power metal.
Shoegaze can be really catchy there’s a reason why that and Dreampop have a lot of crossover bands
Also MBV has plenty hooks on Loveless, I just think modern bands are more focused on fitting the criteria and aesthetics with Shoegaze and not actually writing songs
I agree, shoegaze can be very catchy, it depends just on how you present it though your music. I don't really dig some core shoegaze bands, but it works perfectly with other genres - dream pop, post-punk, black metal.
I predict that this is the year King Diamond will take over mainstream radio! I can't wait \m/
God, I wish.
is King Diamond still alive?
he made some insane bird sounds back in the day
@@GordonSlamsay yes and he still sounds as timeless as ever LMAO (I actually love his music but you know...)
@@Nestorglass good to hear. I've never really listened to a lot of his work (aside from the most "popular" stuff)
Shoegaze-metal and post-hardcore is something that I can see becoming big in this year and decade too. As for Post-hardcore, checkout this group called Static Dress and their album Rogue Carpet Disaster. That whole album is just one big post-hardcore resurgence. The last song Cubicle Dialogue reminds me so much of old Underoath and Hopes Die Last's first album.
Love that album
Nik is the one true prophet, and metal is His church. Loved both of your comments on this.
Spiritbox absolutely needs to have a good release in 2023 because Rotoscope was really good but very polarizing.
loving the Abigail Williams shoutout. and speaking of Winds Of Plague: i saw them play with Abigail Williams around 2008 in NW FL, and WOP’s drummer was out, so Abigail’s drummer stepped up and played their set with them on that tour after like two weeks of prep. homies don’t let homies drop sets.
Samus?
@@drinkinouttacups2665 i’m not well-versed in their lineup history. it was just super impressive, and on occasion when there was a flub it was either quickly recovered or made for a cute lil moment without being awkward. quite a show.
Ken is an absolute beast. Abigail needs to make a big resurgence soon... I actually just listened to their track "into the ashes" omw to work this morning.
Such a banger.
Was in Alan Cassidy who plays for Black Dahlia now? Abigail Williams is super underrated, their most recent album is one of my favourite black metal albums in recent years
Cassidy was in Abigail at some point
I think loathe is gonna blow tf up this year. Same with static dress. They both toured the US in the fall and basically every show sold out.
As far as frontmen go, only from static dress seems pretty damn charismatic.
Olly*
Both dropped some good tunes lately
i hear lots of bands that mix shoegaze stuff w more grunge elements and poppy song structures. i think it could work. new band moodring could do it i think
Right! The whole grunge+shoegaze wave has been proving that catchy shoegaze could work. I would also give a shoutout to the band SOM, especially their most recent album "The Shape of Everything". Just a lovely balance of doom, post-metal and shoegaze with unbelievably catchy hooks.
@@Vdrum1010 Thanks!🕶🤙
Everyone should listen to the band BLEED.
I loved how the Smashing Pumpkins did it in their Siamese Dream album
Philly has a wild grungegaze scene
I've got to say, Lorna Shore definitely happened lol. I have some pretty hefty anxiety issues with crowds, they're the first band to get me to get out to a concert in like 10 years. heard they were in town from a coworker and knew i had to go.
It’s nice to see Underoath finally get more of the recognition they deserve
Idk if anyone mentioned this band when talking about shoegaze but there’s this band called Narrow Head that I saw recently and I think they have perfected the shoegaze sound. Catchy riffs and choruses, very melodic and the occasional heavy part. Highly recommend.
Thanks. I know of the genre but never heard of the band. I'll check them out. Much appreciated!🕶🤙
i just checked them out, and i dig the vibe, but from my admittedly very short exposure - that's just pure 90s grunge 😊
i like the vibe. gleemer fit perfectly on this list as well. check out the song come down
@@recordednowhere yes, members were previously in Superheaven and similar bands, definitely grunge revivalists lol funny how any vaguely spacey alt rock now can get called "shoegaze"
@@kage6613 haha ok, i did zero research on the band just listened to a couple tracks and even though i dont believe in or understand genre distinctions all that much, their sound seemed very easy to classify.
then again i have a very diffuse image of shoegaze in my head and that may not be accurate at all.
Anyone heard of Holy Fawn? They released a pretty solid album last year. The genre may not be spot on, but it definitely has the ambient shoegazey vibes to it.
Blackgaze and post-black metal are cool genres. Maybe it'll have a popularity surge this year too
This video inspired me to start a melodic deathgaze shoe-core band
Deftones is getting really huge w younger people. I think that’s a indication that Shoegaze is going to have its moment
No, they're not
Oh yes they are
@@OTB2002yes they are
Deftones have and always will suck
I think Turnstile has been bringing in shoegaze a lot more. But the way they do it sounds good and catchy. Theres guitar riffs that are very shoegaze that are memorable. I dont think shoegaze will ever be more popuular but i def see more metal, hardcore and punk incorporating more shoegaze in their music.
I just wanna see metal hit that sweet spot of art-for-artists and art-for-audiences - I think loathe are doing that best as of now, mixing big ambient shoegaze and extreme metal aggression with catchy hooks, memorable structures and absolutely exceptional live shows.
The whole shoegaze metal thing had its 5 mins about 10 years ago. The UK had a big ambient metal scene. Devil sold his soul, Rinoa, Bossk, Between the Screams, The Mire. It didn't last long.
Humanity’s Last Breath was my first extreme band, back when the other heaviest band I listened to was maybe early Pestillence, and some other death-thrash, more thrash bands. I definitelly prefer thall over djent. At the time I could hardly tell difference between deathcore and death metal, it all sounded just heavier and louder music than anything else.
Now of course I can tell the difference, but still don’t prefer either over the other. There’s great deathcore, great death metal, terrible deathcore and terrible death metal.
Thanks for sharing the genres ans subgenus. There's so many damn selections.
dude HLB as a first extreme band is wild. Literally my favorite band lol
Really can't wait for more Job For A Cowboy this year!
Disagree with the Shoegaze thing, yes its not inherently catchy but there is a lot of shoegaze nostalgia, people just going back and listening to the 90's stuff and like Japanese stuff and even outside metal you are seeing plenty of shoegaze infused with hard rock and indie rock that is actually getting pretty popular in some cases e.g. Wolf Alice, also the success of Dream pop imo among Gen Z can rlly help people get used to more modern shoegaze influenced stuff, if kids are already liking old stuff like Slowdrive, My bloody Valentine and the dream pop acts like Beach house, what's stopping them from enjoying the new stuff.
I said on a Justin Hawkins video that Turnstile’s GLOW ON was one of the best post hardcore albums since Sing The Sorrow… blokes buried me in the comments saying that GLOW ON isn’t post hardcore. What I want to say here is if we’re considering that album to be post hardcore, I absolutely see post hardcore becoming a huge genre in the scene. I think that there are enough DGD-type bands to legitimize “Swancore” as its own genre. When I think of posthxc I think of early 2000s AFI, Blood Brothers, Static Dress, If I Die First, Turnstile, Glassjaw, and Old Wounds.
I heard artists say that what determines the succes of a song is if it is used in popular playlists and since most playlists on spotify are curated by genres, I guess genres still matter quite a bit. At least that's my guess
If you ever forget when Winds of Plague's Era was, just remember, THIS IS WINDS OF PLAGUE ON THAT 2008 SHIT!!
Shoegaze probably isn’t gonna pick up for recreational music but for something to listen to while you’re working, 100%. It fits in with ambient, Lofi, and classical. What’s different is it’s music with vocals that you can still listen to while writing an email.
I love how talented everyone is in the scene now but there’s something about listening to something that’s not as technical and more chaotic that I miss.
Check out Mucous - Resplendent Ooze for that good old school death feel
Obituary Cause of Death comes to mind.
With all the crazy technicality nowadays some of the musicality has been lost. So much of modern metal is forgettable and samey to me.
I like when it sounds like the wheels are juuuust about to fall off. And sometimes when they do
Omerta
If Loathe can manage to release some new material this year in the same vein as Dimorphous Display (single from early 2022), then they will have a huge year. One of their guitarists left the band. My guess is that has put a hurting on the songwriting process.
I am also going to make a prediction for 2023 and beyond. I think we are going to see a lot more independence in artists without the need for record labels or industry labels. With the great technology, that’s out there easily accessible and platforms like music streaming, TH-cam, twitch, tick-tock, etc., I don’t see a need for a label anymore. And if the band can acquire a good manager who can promote the artist getting into things like venues and shows and tours, etc. it’s not that hard to achieve.
I agree with you Finn that Metal and Rock music needs to be less nerdy and more accessible.
But going full mid 00’s Emo, Pop Punk, Post Hardcore revival is NOT the way it should go about it. In fact while I was growing up in the mid to late 00’s, you would get bullied and teased if you listened to stuff like Green Day, MCR or Paramore.
I would love to hear bands experiment with genres like Rave, Trance, Eurodance and Trip Hop music with Metal and Rock.
Something like Tiesto Metal, Prodigy Metal, Cascada Metal. I would love to hear stuff like that.
narrow head and soul blind are just 2 names off the top of my head that are blending shoegaze elements with hardcore and it sounds awesome
Shoegaze = vibe music, which is why I always liked it. Still love hooks and listen to a lot of other stuff, but I’ve always personally liked the more chill, downtempo stuff. And this current generation is alllll about “vibe”. So yea. Shoegaze FTW 😂
I think the production side of things is going to get reaaaaally interesting. Bands and artists like Brand of Sacrifice or Methwitch have been using more modern production and almost edm type writing with their songs for years (throwing everything in there to make the song as hype and crazy as it gets without thinking "oh can we play this live? Shouldn't we use less electronics?"). I'd love to see more bands and artists in metal really utilizing their DAWs to make the craziest stuff we've ever heard
Edit: I think it's kinda crazy that bands have taken a lot of influence by og djent bands like periphery and tesseract who've been utilizing pads, synths and other electronics that were used in pop, edm and hip hop for years without really trying to actually get their own approach at it and really utilizing their DAWs and modern music production tools to create new and crazy things in metal.
I mean it's not easy to write a good song or track but given the possibilities there should be at least a ton of shitty underground songs that try out weird shit like that but most of the underground metal that didn't come from one person projects on soundcloud or youtube rarely uses music influence from music in the 21st century while literally EVERY other alternative movement has borrowed heavily from all sorts of music styles (including rock and metal) over the past few years.
Damn it, Finn. I didn't notice the twist tie till you mentioned it and now it's all I see
Ryt 🥺😂
Looking forward for more bands like Ten-56, Darko US, and Paleface that incorporate more hip hop and rap elements.
Winds of Plague, The Great Stone War. One of my favorite metal albums.
The game, "Cyberpunk 2077", back in the late 80s/90s version of the tabletop rpg was named, "Cyberpunk 2020"... in reference to the the 2020s being a sci-fi concept
Wake up, we got a city to burn.
I really hope Spiritbox puts out more stuff. Ive been addicted.
As much as people love the Lorna and deathcore stuff it feels oversaturated to me now. But I'm not really into deathcore, so it is what it is. Im glad some people enjoy it and its gaining popularity.
Apparently I mostly like post hard-core influenced metal? I guess that makes sense. I want my breakdowns but I want my catchy hooks and choruses too.
And you can throw in some of the shoegaze elements. Like Loathe is ok, but I struggle to get into them because they have so much deathcore influence compared to Deftones/Spiritbox etc.
I'm also curious if we get another banger instrumental album with influence from bands like Polyphia and Intervals. Maybe Unprocessed puts something out? Maybe Chon comes back?
Hope 2023 is full of lots of new stuff to enjoy. Thanks for your videos in 2022 Finn.
@dragonballfanscantread2383 You probably haven't listened to much 2010s metal then.
I think NuCore will take off with Tallah leading the pack. They sound like nobody else, have a charismatic/eclectic frontman, a legendary drummers son, have hooks, and are refreshing after everything has sounded the same over the last 10 years (not including the stand out bands).
As being the one friend outta ten that listens to rock/metal/alt/punk, etc. Surrounded by peers that predominantly listen to edm/house/tech. Shoegaze really bridges the gap in the strangest way.
Brutal Death Metal deserves more credit for their influence on deathcore. Listen to Eternal Suffering if you like Lucker era Suicide Silence for example.
0:51 literally back to the future 2 when they have hover board skateboards😂
Sleeptalk is a 10/10 album. Please give it a full listen Finn. It’s there!
I thought Dark Sun went too far into the pop/synthwave direction and actually ironically somehow lost the hookiness that Sleeptalk had
3:50 to get to fashion. Shocking.
Loathe is cool. I absolutely love sleep token though. Such a different vibe. Borrows from deftones a bit but not as much as loathe does. At least I don’t think. Much more unique imo.
Around 19:20 Finn almost perfectly describes Bilmuri.
When is Finn gonna get on the no wipe train?
Been talking about him since 2019! Recording another podcast with him tomorrow
I love how metal used to dominate mainstream charts just 20 years ago and now we’re seriously discussing 500k listeners bands blowing the whole industry up
I do like Loathe, but I agree that the Shoegaze-y portions of the music are weak to me. Once it comes on my brain drifts off and I'm no longer hyper-focused on the music but the sound.
The plot of Back to the Future 2 was them going to the future (2015). I watched this movie when it was new to vhs.
That's heavy.
When the front man looked like he could crush your head between his hands dude was diesel! - winds of plague that is
a crazy 2023 would be awesome. We haven't had a truly amazing year since 2017. I'd be hyped.
Sonic Youth had like 1.7m monthly listeners last time I checked and they haven't been active for over a decade
“The specter of Death inches closer every day” Most metal Finn McKenty quote ever….
He ain’t lying!!
It's funny how, in they 80s, they thought life would be the Jetsons nowadays
Never forget back to the future 2 had us with hoverboards and flying cars for 2015 😅
if 2000s melodic metalcore and melodeath doesn't make a huge comeback, then i'm not interested. new in flames seems very promising and the halo effect was great, but i need much more.
I hear a lot of bands doing the emmure weedly weedlys with the guitars
“Loathe and Sleep Token have cult followings, but not really breaking out of where they’ve been for the past couple years” 😂😂😂 Finn, love ya man, but boy were you wrong about that one. Nik got it spot on by saying that was gonna get big. Sleep Token and Spiritbox (who also use some of those elements) absolutely DOMINATED this year. Between Jaded getting nominated for a Grammy, and both of these bands absolutely, again, DOMINATING the Nik Nocturnal awards, it’s safe to say that this was the year for prog-y, shoegaze-y, Deftones-inspired metalcore, and I’m here for it!! Sleep Token and Spiritbox have been some of my very favorite bands for a while now, well before all the hype they’ve each gotten this year, so I am super pumped to see them getting this recognition and these accolades (I’m proud that I was a fan before the popularity, but also not at ALL upset about the new popularity bc I’m not a gatekeeper metalhead and I actually like when people like the things I like bc it gives me hope for humanity to know that there are people who have good taste and that the bands I like can afford to make a living by providing us with their art, so… I’m here for it)… that was a long rant to say that, this was the year of Sleep Token and Spiritbox, no denying that 😁🤘
Also, you said shoegaze and atmospheric metal isn’t going to make the genre more accessible to people… to which Sleep Token said, but let’s add elements of baddiecore and blend a million genres together and expand our reach of who we can appeal to, and it WORKS and I love it. I do fully agree with you that hooks matter (and would help Loathe if they had a bit more of that catchiness), and Sleep Token has managed to incorporate that without “selling out” and losing their unique sound, so I’m here for it!
that ad placement was amazing.
Noise gate in this video is so intense it's cutting off your ghost.
Who doesn't love it when Nik makes da noises? 😂🤘🤘
I often complain that sports have entire networks dedicated to analyzing all the games, players, and coaches and most of my interests don't have that level of analysis. There needs to be a show where guys like Finn and Nik talk about the state of punk/hardcore/metal, talk about new bands, and talk about what they think is going to happen next. It's basically First Take for metal fans
I would love to do that but unfortunately people don’t click on videos about new artists
It's weird how no one brings up how Greg Puciato from Dillinger Escspe Plan and The Black Queen; his newer contributions to how the scenes and genres are changing and evolving.
first vid of 2023 lets go! happy new year! personally im looking forward to more new school old school death metal from hardcore band members for example the nnew sanguisuggabogg comes out this year. as far as metal probably more strings on the guitars drums that are so insane only computers can do them and insane levels of vocal peformance. there will be more nu metal influence ibanez annd mesa boogie might have a record year lol. more hardcore band memebers will be doing shoe gazey grungy type rock side projects like spice or something similar, tik tok will continue to be a huge influence which i think might finally bring some shorter less dramatic songs, no one needs an 8 minute epic anymore
The Age of Melodic Death Core was the first record to which Costco bought the rights for 2024. How great are those samples are going to taste with a little soundtrack?
I recently got into Bad Omens. I can agree it's kinda popping off rn
I still dress like that picture of winds of plague. Lol
God bless you
Same. The 2008-10 core kid aesthetic is my shit mixed in with early 2ks pop punk.
I for one welcome our new Sexy Saxophone Death Metal overlords.
Saw the Lotus Eater comment. We need a video on them, Finn.
I hope Humanity’s Last Breath gets the recognition they deserve. I got into them before they released Abyssal. Thall is probably one of the heavier genres I’ve found and I hope it gets the status deathcore has.
I remember the transformers animated movie from my childhood showing a crazy futuristic 2005.
I'm interested to see what happens with Paleface in 2023 now that they will do doing their first ever tour of the states soon. Wish them crazy Swedish gents the best
Moodring is the perfect example mixing shoegaze and metal. Stuff like Constrict (from Moodring) rips pretty hard.
I’m so glad someone mentioned moodring in this comment section. They’re one of my favourite bands at the moment. As you said, they’re perfect at mixing the “vibes” of shoegaze while also having metal breakdowns, but they have catchy hooks as well.
Crazy how back to the future takes place in 2015
Now I just want someone to MOD a Resident Evil game to replace zombies with Reel Big Fish and Bosstones members. Umbrella has gone too far this time 😂
I'm not exactly sure if it works like this on spotify but if you listen to just one song from one band does that count you as a monthly listener of the band? Someone having 2 million monthly listeners does not mean its people actively listening your songs it might be because they heard your biggest hit one time on some playlist and now you are "a listener". I think the system needs to be reworked somehow so it shows people who are actually fans of said bands.
@19:10 Pretty much what Bilmuri's been doing for a bit now, it's still clearly anchored in post-hardcore/metalcore, but the man's a genius with how he's so naturally implemented and combined other genres and sounds.
I think the shoegaze revival is already dying out. First there was the jangly reverb indie Mac demarco stuff in the mid 2010’s then you had title fight and many other punk/hardcore adjacent bands going shoegaze. And most of that scene is going more straight up indie or into a more pop punk sound. The deftones-core stuff is pretty new but I don’t think that will shift into full blown ride and slowdive sounding bands.
2023 is the year of PANTERA. Next question.
First off I believe that this year that symphonic metal bands are breaking the ceiling such as Gloyhammer, Angus Mcsix, Sabaton, Ad Infinity, Wind Rose, Kamelot, Epica, and list goes on and on.
Secondly, I like the hard core music style in vain of Slaughter to Prevail but honestly when you get older hitting your 40’s and older you will start liking to music going back to the golden era of the 70’s and upward years classic rock, pop, country, possibly hip hop and disco that remain strong till this day and all this current death core trap music will become a distant phase in your life like what happened to me.
Lol, I consider Metallica oldies music like listening to Led Zeppelin along with Megadeth. Slayer and others are either retired, dead, or just former versions of themselves like Sepultura and Max and Igor Cavalera spin off bands.
Overall, music is changing over the years but to think that K-Pop is trying to overtake the American music scene I honestly hope the Rock and Metal music makes a comeback and Hip Hop Rap dies like Disco music just like what happened to the *NSYNC and Backstreet Boys boy bands. 😂
Emotion in Metal:. There's actually quite a vast range of emotions in Metal, but it's mainly in the genres outside of Deathcore, Slam, Caveman Slam, and so forth. Symphonic, Heavy, Folk, Neoclassical, and Glam would probably be the Metal genres that contain more emotions "across the board".
Spiritbox and Code Orange... Will fade. It seems they already have started fading. Car Bomb isn't brought up much anymore and they had a similar rise-peak-fade as I am sure Spiritbox and Code Orange are about to experience.
Genres:. Go ahead and make whatever you wanna make. Genres are just used for classification and familial purposes. But, if you are not a specific genre yet claim to be (or vice versa), that's when us pedants and nerds have the right to come down with the "ackshuallee" comments/posts/videos.
Metalheads hating tiktok:. Well, I am 40, soooo....... Yeah. I can't speak for different age groups, though.
I have a theory that whatever drug is popular at the time determines whats popular in music. 80s was thrash metal and cocaine, 90s was grunge and weed, now there's heroin and billie eilish
lol! I have the same twist tie sticking up on my mic arm holding the cable in place, now I'm self conscious about it.
I want a jazz style bass solo during the breakdown and I expect nothing less.
I've never heard of any of the bamds mentioned in this video except Lorna
Shore lol.
On post-hardcore coming back. Bad Omens and Devil Wears Prada released post hardcore albums this year and honestly theyve been two of my favorites this year
I'm having a really hard time imagining metal of any kind influenced by Slowdive. That's what I think of when somebody says "shoegaze," so maybe the term has come to refer to something else than it used to. I'm old. I can't keep up anymore, I guess.
Ahhh Finnn Abigail Williams was my shit back in the dayssss lol. Evolution of the Elohim was so good back then lol
To be honest, I expect the whole Deathcore thing to get over-saturated and boring. Like we're getting some "Deathcore is dead" type video in 2024 on your main channel. I also wish for Bilmuri to finally get the attention he deserves. He's dreamy, catchy and emotional, while delivering everything with a touch of humour. Standout artist to me personally.
In rock, It's starting to happen with pop punk revival now though
This new wave of bands blurring the lines between Hardcore, Punk, Shogaze and Nu Metal like Higher Power and Soul Blind, that's fresh and creative, I want to hear more of that and there is definitely good hooks !
Yo how Finn talked about Ska at the end freaking killed me and made my day 🤣🤣 lmaoo