my dad has a 2017 Mustang GT premium. he is planning to do manifolds gt350 air intake and headers he even has the RTR spec 5 rims I can't wait to see his car when is fully complete but is going to be a while lol he's buying every little upgrade at a time when he can afford it but is going to awesome when his car is fully complete.
Awesome video 🔥 thank you for taking the time to do the most apples-to-apples comparison as possible. A lot of people never factor/plan for comparisons like you did. Keep up the great videos!
Thanks, and for sure. I hate trying to see how something effects results but other factors skew the outcome. I actually had an issue with the e85 last time so I’m going to order some race gas for the next dyno video in a few weeks. Thanks for watching!
Sweet !!!! My 2015 GT with KOOKS LONG TUBES, ROUSH X PIPE, JLT CAI, DYNO NUMBERS SAE were 425 hp and 418 torque. Soon to be running E85. Good luck with your build. Have ya run yours at the track. Mine ran a 7.98 in the 1/8 mile.
Sounds like you have a fun set up as well! Thanks for wishing me luck. I have run it in the 1/8th, there are actually a couple old videos on this channel of track runs. It was before the headers, and without e85. The issue was I had no traction so the E/T was terrible at around 8.5X but the mph was good at like 91-92. I just picked up some rear drag rims, and I’ll be getting the fronts in a bit. Before that I have to do axles and driveshaft so I don’t break anything but Im shooting for 7.4-7.6 seconds in the 1/8th.
Yes mid 7s sounds like an awesome goal. Here the tracks are no prep. Hard to get a good 60ft. I'm only getting 1.92 60ft. Will be on E85 for next race. Hoping for a mid 7. Stay safe and happy racing !!!
Good numbers bro. I made 448whp 415wtq with ported 18 and gt350 cai on e85. Hoping to get some kooks too and see how much more I can get. Just subscribed brotha🤝🏽
Appreciate you for subbing! Those numbers are really solid especially if you had stock manifolds with cats and everything. I wish I knew how much my car actually made on e85 before the headers, but the e85 I got was a bad batch so it didn’t make that much more power than it did on pump gas. I also have a closed air box which makes less power on the dyno, but keep me updated when you get headers let me know how much power it makes.
@@ThrottleHavoc Yeah on 91 I made 405whp 380wtq. So the e85 definitely helped. The gt350 cai is great imo for the extra power. It takes a little more though to get it dialed in, my tuner (AED) said himself it was a stubborn cai. But the car runs smooth. About a year now no issues. I’ll definitely let you know how much I make with headers though. Got you on IG now so I’ll hit you up when I find out💯. (Edit) - I’m hoping for at least 460whp with headers. Tuner said it should be very doable. We’ll see!
I went with the ford performance coils that are used on the gt500, here is the link: lmr.com/item/M12029M52/ford-performance-mustang-gt500-ignition-coils-15-20
Cai exhaust and tune got 411 whp alone. Mines a gen 1 i would be pissed at that tuner you should of went with bama like everyone else low key bro no hate but yea id be kinda mad. With your same mods ima be at 440-450 or id expect as much after i get the manifold and headers.
I’d steer as far away from bama as I could honestly. They would never tune any mustang I own, and nobody even really speaks about them anymore. That aside yea you may be able to make 440 like I did, it really depends on the dyno and the day. You’re going to likely need e85 to get in the 440-450+ range. My car made more power on E but look around at gen 1 and gen 2 coyotes, my car is right in line with what they make with these mods. Headers will pick up the most of your power, if you go 18 manifold or gt350 yea you’ll get some more power but it’s more about extending the rpm range so it won’t grab as much power as you think. If bama is your tuner I’m not trying to knock them, but they wouldn’t even be in my top 4 choices for tuners.
Around 435-460 depending on a few variables. That stock intake may choke you just a little bit, and that throttle body won’t give much if any horsepower but yea 435-460 is what you should be getting out of that set up.
Hell yeah bro! I’m assuming your goal was to hit 500 hp to the wheels and I was using your build as a base reference so that I can hit 500 too. What are your next plans? Going boosted?
Next plans engine wise are probably cams, which I don’t recommend because of the cost and labor for the return really isn’t worth it unless you get a good deal on a set of cams. After cams eventually boost, and then I’d like to build the engine down the road and get the heads ported as well. I would like to get around 500 n/a horsepower to the wheels before I go boost though.
@@ThrottleHavocwould cams alone get you close to 500? I’m also hoping to hit somewhere around 500hp n/a. Also was reading some of the comments and saw you said something about manual loosing less percentage than autos does that mean autos would make less?
@@wisechuy6936 yes cams should get you close to or over 500 with the right mods. I’ve seen a few manual gen 2s with cobra jet and stage 3 comp cams make 490-520ish to the wheels. Nobody, or very few people have really done an 18 manifold with cams because realistically it’s not the best option for that when you can do a cobra jet instead. I’m going to go probably l&m intake cams only just to see how it effects the power band. Cams usually add about 20-35 hp on average from what I’ve seen and maybe like 15-25 for intake cams so that should bump me up to around 470-490 wheel. To answer your second question yes manuals make a higher number on the dyno. Traditional autos have tq converter and other moving parts that cause a higher drivetrain loss. If you ever look at two mustangs with the same mods on the same dyno and one is auto and one is manual the manual will read higher than the auto. The auto makes up for it in the shifting but yea it’s putting less power to the tires. For example my boy has a 20’ GT with full bolt ons e85 cobra jet and cams. Those gen 3 engines make way more power than the gen 2 coyotes. Since he’s a 10 speed though he dynoed at like 487-490 wheel. On a manual car he would’ve easily be in the 500 plus hp territory.
@@ThrottleHavoc I see thank you for the info appreciate it man. One more question why would it be that cams and an 18 manifold isn’t the best option is it because cobra jets can hit higher rpm’s or something?
@@wisechuy6936 yes, the 18 manifold isn’t made for super high rpm due to the design. The longer runners hurt it up top. If you look at all the high rpm intake manifolds like the cobra jet, boss 302, and the Holley high ram they have a big plenum with short runners. That’s what you want for high rpm stuff. All the tests I’ve seen with the 18 manifold and stage 3 cams just kills down low tq and doesn’t pick up much if any power up top. I’ve decided to do l&m intake cams. It should put me within 15-25 hp of 500 at the wheel.
Different dynos, possibly different weather, and remember I used octane booster as well to not have the gas quality effect the numbers. Being that it was on the my flex tune it saw a little more timing than it normally would on the 93 only tune so that’s definitely a factor.
Thanks! Also keep in mind I was using octane booster so it saw a few more degrees of timing than it normally would. I should be going back this week on e85 hoping to touch at least 450 but it’s not a big deal.
Overall from my personal experience you’ll feel the headers the most. They really allow the car to breathe much easier. The car will be way more rev happy, you’ll love it and you will definitely feel the bump in power.
@@ThrottleHavoc car is fbo now got the pmas on and the headers also did a 2018 manifold tuned by Lund racing, next is water pump pulley then a clutch and light weight flywheel. Staying 93 because I drive all around the country and need reliable fueling
The front end as in the bumper/headlights/front fascia, or the front end as in the suspension set up? I have stuff done to both, just let me know which one you’re referring to and I’ll tell you what’s done.
@@mrdr_392alright well as far as the front, the headlights are blacked out in the corner so you don’t see the orange. I have a quick latch release kit on the bumper. The turn signals and the fog lights are blacked out. The horse on the front was swapped to a black one. The 5.0 emblems on the fender are black as well. It’s definitely subtle changes, but they make a difference.
This is on par with what they should be making, however there are a few factors that may make you think otherwise and I’ll explain. You may be referencing the gen 3 coyotes which is the 18+. Those have slightly larger pistons and the compression is bumped up from 11:1 to 12:1 along with a few other things. Gen 3s definitely make a bit more power and torque than this car with the same mods. The gen 2 in this car from 15-17 typically will make 445-470 wheel on e85 depending on dyno, tune, temperature, etc. My car is close to that with pump gas, so when I take the car back on E it should be right around those numbers. Anything above 460 for gen1/2 is really a stretch but I’ve seen a few cars do it but it’s not the norm. Gen 2s make 435 at the crank stock so factoring in 15% drivetrain loss it’s up about 85-90 hp at the crank which is accurate for being fbo and pump gas only, and about 100-115 more crank horsepower fbo on e85. Most of the fbo coyote dyno videos you see out there are done with e85 so in comparison to this that’s a marginal difference. You also have to factor in that it has a closed box intake which does really well in the real world, but on a dyno it usually doesn’t perform as well as the open element intakes. The last factor would be that every dyno reads differently but this one seems to be calibrated correctly just based on the numbers. Coyotes rev high and make good power and punch well above their weight class, but staying n/a from a gen 1 or gen 2 coyote you won’t see over 445-470 without opening the motor. This is also why gen 1/2 guys can’t even think to compete with c6/c7 corvettes when they do the same mods n/a unless we are stupid light. You guys with the 6.2 be it an ls3 or lt1 make more tq, similar or more horsepower depending on what’s done n/a wise, you’re more aerodynamic, and much lighter. If it’s an ls7 forget about it 😂, but thanks for watching!
@@ThrottleHavoc thanks for the info I’m ls7 fbo e85 600 whp I just figured they were more my buddy lost to one with a tune I believe it was a 18 yote my buddy has a c7 stingray yote pulled a car or so and held it
@@z0635 yes that sounds about right. I can give a stock c7 some struggle now. Before it had a tune and the bolt ons, I got gapped by a stock c7. But that makes sense those ls7 are monsters. I wish these coyotes made power like that but the dohc can only take us so far, we would need more liters to compete with that. The ls7 is hands down the n/a king.
The person that commented summed it up pretty well. The 435 is rated at the engine, so you’ve got to factor in the 15% drivetrain loss since it’s manual it has less loss than an auto. Go look at most fbo e85 gen 2 coyotes. They make 445-460 wheel. That’s around 530-540 horsepower at the engine. My car with e85 would be right at the same because it made the power it did with pump gas and a little octane booster. If you want more of an explanation we did a video explaining it. I’ll warn you though, it was our second video and it’s a bit boring during the parts of the explanations, but it’s good Info. I’ll drop the link incase you want to know more about this. th-cam.com/video/VgzWc7la5bM/w-d-xo.html
@@ThrottleHavoc I'm not busting your balls just trying to figure out how a car that makes 450-460 horsepower at the crankshaft stock with bolt-ons and E85 now makes 445-460 to the rear wheels with bolt-ons and a tune on E85 stock these cars make 365-385 to the wheels so these simple bolt-ons and E85 and tune pickup 80-100 horsepower to the rear wheels
@@gloriamaletta8667 I was replying to the OP, saying that you summed it up pretty well with your statement. That aside this car doesn’t make 460 crank stock because it’s a gen 2 coyote, you’re thinking about the gen 3 coyote that makes 460 stock to the crank. Gen 2 which is in this car makes 435 stock. 15 percent loss puts it right at 370 wheel. As on right now my car isn’t on E. On an n/a car especially with an engine this size you will never see 80-100 hp gain from e85 and tune only. You’d need bolt ons to accompany that. N/A cars don’t pick up power from e85 like boosted cars do. My car isn’t on e85 in this video and it’s making what it made which is about 70 horsepower from when we first dynoed it. On e85 with the bolt ons it will be about 80-90 horsepower. N/A engines don’t make crazy gains from bolt ons and e85, which is why most people suggest going boost. The reason why gen 3s perform a bit better is because aside from the slightly larger pistons, the bump in compression really helps make a bit more power when you introduce e85. That’s why a lot of them see just under, right at, or just about 500 hp to the wheels after bolt ons and e85.
@@ThrottleHavoc if new 5.0 Coyote Mustangs or gen 3 are making 490-500 rear wheel horsepower with 15 percent loss would be 580 crankshaft horsepower with bolt-ons tune and E85 these engines are rated stock 450-460 crankshaft horsepower stock so these bolt-ons tune and E85 would = 120-130 horsepower at the crankshaft
my dad has a 2017 Mustang GT premium. he is planning to do manifolds gt350 air intake and headers he even has the RTR spec 5 rims I can't wait to see his car when is fully complete but is going to be a while lol he's buying every little upgrade at a time when he can afford it but is going to awesome when his car is fully complete.
That’s awesome, it going to be a fun car and you guys should really enjoy it,l when it’s done
Finally a Throttle Havoc upload
We took a little break, but we are back that won’t happen again.
Awesome video 🔥 thank you for taking the time to do the most apples-to-apples comparison as possible. A lot of people never factor/plan for comparisons like you did. Keep up the great videos!
Thanks, and for sure. I hate trying to see how something effects results but other factors skew the outcome. I actually had an issue with the e85 last time so I’m going to order some race gas for the next dyno video in a few weeks. Thanks for watching!
Sweet !!!! My 2015 GT with KOOKS LONG TUBES, ROUSH X PIPE, JLT CAI, DYNO NUMBERS SAE were 425 hp and 418 torque. Soon to be running E85. Good luck with your build. Have ya run yours at the track. Mine ran a 7.98 in the 1/8 mile.
Sounds like you have a fun set up as well! Thanks for wishing me luck. I have run it in the 1/8th, there are actually a couple old videos on this channel of track runs. It was before the headers, and without e85. The issue was I had no traction so the E/T was terrible at around 8.5X but the mph was good at like 91-92. I just picked up some rear drag rims, and I’ll be getting the fronts in a bit. Before that I have to do axles and driveshaft so I don’t break anything but Im shooting for 7.4-7.6 seconds in the 1/8th.
Yes mid 7s sounds like an awesome goal. Here the tracks are no prep. Hard to get a good 60ft. I'm only getting 1.92 60ft. Will be on E85 for next race. Hoping for a mid 7. Stay safe and happy racing !!!
@@blackwidow2388 Same to you thanks! I also feel your pain, the only track we have near us is an 1/8 mile and they only prep one side of the track.
✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾 glad you back bro...the car sounds amazing and youre progressing in power numbers... looking forward to more content
Appreciate you brotha! Definitely back for good now.
@@ThrottleHavoc 💯💯💯
Good numbers bro. I made 448whp 415wtq with ported 18 and gt350 cai on e85. Hoping to get some kooks too and see how much more I can get. Just subscribed brotha🤝🏽
Appreciate you for subbing! Those numbers are really solid especially if you had stock manifolds with cats and everything. I wish I knew how much my car actually made on e85 before the headers, but the e85 I got was a bad batch so it didn’t make that much more power than it did on pump gas. I also have a closed air box which makes less power on the dyno, but keep me updated when you get headers let me know how much power it makes.
@@ThrottleHavoc Yeah on 91 I made 405whp 380wtq. So the e85 definitely helped. The gt350 cai is great imo for the extra power. It takes a little more though to get it dialed in, my tuner (AED) said himself it was a stubborn cai. But the car runs smooth. About a year now no issues.
I’ll definitely let you know how much I make with headers though. Got you on IG now so I’ll hit you up when I find out💯.
(Edit) - I’m hoping for at least 460whp with headers. Tuner said it should be very doable. We’ll see!
@@716_gt what numbers did you make ??? Did you finally get it dailed in and dynoed??
Bro that thing is amazing !
Thankyou!
Great video Ford powered forever baby keep on pulling the knot out of them boties and the horns off them mopars l love it awesome car
Thanks for the kind words!
Hey bro for your coil packs what brand/website did you get them off of? I can’t seem to find much or I end up seeing some brands I’ve never heard of
I went with the ford performance coils that are used on the gt500, here is the link: lmr.com/item/M12029M52/ford-performance-mustang-gt500-ignition-coils-15-20
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Cai exhaust and tune got 411 whp alone. Mines a gen 1 i would be pissed at that tuner you should of went with bama like everyone else low key bro no hate but yea id be kinda mad. With your same mods ima be at 440-450 or id expect as much after i get the manifold and headers.
I’d steer as far away from bama as I could honestly. They would never tune any mustang I own, and nobody even really speaks about them anymore. That aside yea you may be able to make 440 like I did, it really depends on the dyno and the day. You’re going to likely need e85 to get in the 440-450+ range. My car made more power on E but look around at gen 1 and gen 2 coyotes, my car is right in line with what they make with these mods. Headers will pick up the most of your power, if you go 18 manifold or gt350 yea you’ll get some more power but it’s more about extending the rpm range so it won’t grab as much power as you think. If bama is your tuner I’m not trying to knock them, but they wouldn’t even be in my top 4 choices for tuners.
I’m going stock intake,Bbk lth,mbrp full exhaust,gt350 mani,lu47s,e85. I wonder what numbers will I get
Around 435-460 depending on a few variables. That stock intake may choke you just a little bit, and that throttle body won’t give much if any horsepower but yea 435-460 is what you should be getting out of that set up.
I pull 8k rpm driving it hard...i know u cook all your friends with mopars...cause i do...maybe not a hellcat but scats and hemis a babies ...
Yea I’ve raced a few scats and other cars I’ve beaten quite a bit in this car. Ironically most of them were before I had this set up I have now.
Hell yeah bro! I’m assuming your goal was to hit 500 hp to the wheels and I was using your build as a base reference so that I can hit 500 too. What are your next plans? Going boosted?
Next plans engine wise are probably cams, which I don’t recommend because of the cost and labor for the return really isn’t worth it unless you get a good deal on a set of cams. After cams eventually boost, and then I’d like to build the engine down the road and get the heads ported as well. I would like to get around 500 n/a horsepower to the wheels before I go boost though.
@@ThrottleHavocwould cams alone get you close to 500? I’m also hoping to hit somewhere around 500hp n/a. Also was reading some of the comments and saw you said something about manual loosing less percentage than autos does that mean autos would make less?
@@wisechuy6936 yes cams should get you close to or over 500 with the right mods. I’ve seen a few manual gen 2s with cobra jet and stage 3 comp cams make 490-520ish to the wheels. Nobody, or very few people have really done an 18 manifold with cams because realistically it’s not the best option for that when you can do a cobra jet instead. I’m going to go probably l&m intake cams only just to see how it effects the power band. Cams usually add about 20-35 hp on average from what I’ve seen and maybe like 15-25 for intake cams so that should bump me up to around 470-490 wheel. To answer your second question yes manuals make a higher number on the dyno. Traditional autos have tq converter and other moving parts that cause a higher drivetrain loss. If you ever look at two mustangs with the same mods on the same dyno and one is auto and one is manual the manual will read higher than the auto. The auto makes up for it in the shifting but yea it’s putting less power to the tires. For example my boy has a 20’ GT with full bolt ons e85 cobra jet and cams. Those gen 3 engines make way more power than the gen 2 coyotes. Since he’s a 10 speed though he dynoed at like 487-490 wheel. On a manual car he would’ve easily be in the 500 plus hp territory.
@@ThrottleHavoc I see thank you for the info appreciate it man. One more question why would it be that cams and an 18 manifold isn’t the best option is it because cobra jets can hit higher rpm’s or something?
@@wisechuy6936 yes, the 18 manifold isn’t made for super high rpm due to the design. The longer runners hurt it up top. If you look at all the high rpm intake manifolds like the cobra jet, boss 302, and the Holley high ram they have a big plenum with short runners. That’s what you want for high rpm stuff. All the tests I’ve seen with the 18 manifold and stage 3 cams just kills down low tq and doesn’t pick up much if any power up top. I’ve decided to do l&m intake cams. It should put me within 15-25 hp of 500 at the wheel.
So if i did 431/406 at vmp with 3 mods id like to know what mods you used that gave you an additional 9hp...
Different dynos, possibly different weather, and remember I used octane booster as well to not have the gas quality effect the numbers. Being that it was on the my flex tune it saw a little more timing than it normally would on the 93 only tune so that’s definitely a factor.
These are the same numbers I got on e85 but im on heavy 20 inche wheels so sounds about right. Car sounds great!
Thanks! Also keep in mind I was using octane booster so it saw a few more degrees of timing than it normally would. I should be going back this week on e85 hoping to touch at least 450 but it’s not a big deal.
Lookin good!🔥
Sounds amazing 🔥
About to put speed engineering long tubes and pmas on my 16 gt hope to feel some more power
Overall from my personal experience you’ll feel the headers the most. They really allow the car to breathe much easier. The car will be way more rev happy, you’ll love it and you will definitely feel the bump in power.
@@ThrottleHavoc car is fbo now got the pmas on and the headers also did a 2018 manifold tuned by Lund racing, next is water pump pulley then a clutch and light weight flywheel. Staying 93 because I drive all around the country and need reliable fueling
@@gt_drew2258 understandable, even without e85 that’s a very fun and reliable set up.
what do u have done to the front end it looks stock but at the same time something look diff and i cant tell
The front end as in the bumper/headlights/front fascia, or the front end as in the suspension set up? I have stuff done to both, just let me know which one you’re referring to and I’ll tell you what’s done.
@@ThrottleHavoc headlights front fascia/ front bumper
@@mrdr_392alright well as far as the front, the headlights are blacked out in the corner so you don’t see the orange. I have a quick latch release kit on the bumper. The turn signals and the fog lights are blacked out. The horse on the front was swapped to a black one. The 5.0 emblems on the fender are black as well. It’s definitely subtle changes, but they make a difference.
The pony looks blacked as.well as the amber lights everything else is stock . Looks good .
Makes a lot of noise for only 440hp
Ok
Its a coyote thats why 😂
Excellent video homie
Thanks bro 🫡
I’m a vette guy I was thinking they made more power
This is on par with what they should be making, however there are a few factors that may make you think otherwise and I’ll explain. You may be referencing the gen 3 coyotes which is the 18+. Those have slightly larger pistons and the compression is bumped up from 11:1 to 12:1 along with a few other things. Gen 3s definitely make a bit more power and torque than this car with the same mods. The gen 2 in this car from 15-17 typically will make 445-470 wheel on e85 depending on dyno, tune, temperature, etc. My car is close to that with pump gas, so when I take the car back on E it should be right around those numbers. Anything above 460 for gen1/2 is really a stretch but I’ve seen a few cars do it but it’s not the norm. Gen 2s make 435 at the crank stock so factoring in 15% drivetrain loss it’s up about 85-90 hp at the crank which is accurate for being fbo and pump gas only, and about 100-115 more crank horsepower fbo on e85. Most of the fbo coyote dyno videos you see out there are done with e85 so in comparison to this that’s a marginal difference. You also have to factor in that it has a closed box intake which does really well in the real world, but on a dyno it usually doesn’t perform as well as the open element intakes. The last factor would be that every dyno reads differently but this one seems to be calibrated correctly just based on the numbers. Coyotes rev high and make good power and punch well above their weight class, but staying n/a from a gen 1 or gen 2 coyote you won’t see over 445-470 without opening the motor. This is also why gen 1/2 guys can’t even think to compete with c6/c7 corvettes when they do the same mods n/a unless we are stupid light. You guys with the 6.2 be it an ls3 or lt1 make more tq, similar or more horsepower depending on what’s done n/a wise, you’re more aerodynamic, and much lighter. If it’s an ls7 forget about it 😂, but thanks for watching!
@@ThrottleHavoc thanks for the info I’m ls7 fbo e85 600 whp I just figured they were more my buddy lost to one with a tune I believe it was a 18 yote my buddy has a c7 stingray yote pulled a car or so and held it
@@z0635 yes that sounds about right. I can give a stock c7 some struggle now. Before it had a tune and the bolt ons, I got gapped by a stock c7. But that makes sense those ls7 are monsters. I wish these coyotes made power like that but the dohc can only take us so far, we would need more liters to compete with that. The ls7 is hands down the n/a king.
@@ThrottleHavoc cool check out my shorts got a few run on there you might enjoy
Nah us gen 2 coyotes were made for boosts not bolt ons. Gen 3s are touching 500hp with e85 intake tune and headers
Isn’t 435hp stock for a gen 2 coyote?
460 at the crankshaft minus 15-18 percent is like 380-400 at the wheels
The person that commented summed it up pretty well. The 435 is rated at the engine, so you’ve got to factor in the 15% drivetrain loss since it’s manual it has less loss than an auto. Go look at most fbo e85 gen 2 coyotes. They make 445-460 wheel. That’s around 530-540 horsepower at the engine. My car with e85 would be right at the same because it made the power it did with pump gas and a little octane booster. If you want more of an explanation we did a video explaining it. I’ll warn you though, it was our second video and it’s a bit boring during the parts of the explanations, but it’s good Info. I’ll drop the link incase you want to know more about this. th-cam.com/video/VgzWc7la5bM/w-d-xo.html
@@ThrottleHavoc I'm not busting your balls just trying to figure out how a car that makes 450-460 horsepower at the crankshaft stock with bolt-ons and E85 now makes 445-460 to the rear wheels with bolt-ons and a tune on E85 stock these cars make 365-385 to the wheels so these simple bolt-ons and E85 and tune pickup 80-100 horsepower to the rear wheels
@@gloriamaletta8667 I was replying to the OP, saying that you summed it up pretty well with your statement. That aside this car doesn’t make 460 crank stock because it’s a gen 2 coyote, you’re thinking about the gen 3 coyote that makes 460 stock to the crank. Gen 2 which is in this car makes 435 stock. 15 percent loss puts it right at 370 wheel. As on right now my car isn’t on E. On an n/a car especially with an engine this size you will never see 80-100 hp gain from e85 and tune only. You’d need bolt ons to accompany that. N/A cars don’t pick up power from e85 like boosted cars do. My car isn’t on e85 in this video and it’s making what it made which is about 70 horsepower from when we first dynoed it. On e85 with the bolt ons it will be about 80-90 horsepower. N/A engines don’t make crazy gains from bolt ons and e85, which is why most people suggest going boost. The reason why gen 3s perform a bit better is because aside from the slightly larger pistons, the bump in compression really helps make a bit more power when you introduce e85. That’s why a lot of them see just under, right at, or just about 500 hp to the wheels after bolt ons and e85.
@@ThrottleHavoc if new 5.0 Coyote Mustangs or gen 3 are making 490-500 rear wheel horsepower with 15 percent loss would be 580 crankshaft horsepower with bolt-ons tune and E85 these engines are rated stock 450-460 crankshaft horsepower stock so these bolt-ons tune and E85 would = 120-130 horsepower at the crankshaft
Not good gains
Ok