This game really illustrates how weak tier 3 BCs can be in late game vs t1 unit like marines. Cure was massively ahead,read that his oponent is giving up the viking war well,decided "a perfect opportunity to switch to BCs" which given the situation it really was,and he still lost the game because of the BCs. And back in the wol/hots days BCs couldnt blink,couldnt shoot while moving and infested terran with bonus vs massive air units was a thing,beeing a BC enthusiast was even harder.
"Battlecruisers are not unlike self-contained cities, and house crews ranging in size from 4000 to 7000. Besides the standard facilities required by a warship, battlecruisers boast an assortment of cantinas and rec rooms.[8]" Starcraft wiki.
30:23 Maru had over 12 Raven. He could have disable all the tank and BC if they teleported back to help. I don't think they would added anything in the fight
Gathering the BCs in the viking cloud could've helped. not by much but it would've been possible. Ravens also disabling other ravens. Additionally, Maru jumped into the battle as soon as he had confirmation that the BCs weren't in the fight. Soaking Maru's viking shots would've helped. But also, that was 40 supply worth of units not in the battle. The BCs could've provided a ground attack role along with yamato cannon taking out additional ravens or vikings. Just painful that they weren't in the fight tbh
Bc would help a ton since they shred marines and you could yamato/disable their ravens Although that is the main reason why bc aren’t used now since everyone spams ravens and vikings anyways so your making a troop into its counter
@@tommydoez 4-5 BCs are not enough to fight off the Marines anyway, especially with the Anti Armor Missile on them. What counter the Marines are the Tanks but MAru took care of that with Ravens.
I love your videos so much I’ve never played StarCraft 2, but through your videos I’ve developed a deep appreciation of it. I look forward to every new video you upload!
I like how you play with arrows, and you are commenting so well i dont need to see it with my eyes to see it all, so when i am tired, i play one of your casts, and somewhre near start i close my eyes(because i am sleepy as hell but cant sleep) still listen and somewhere in the mid of the vid i am sleeping well, you give me best dreams i can even renembed For me you are narrating my dream and not sc2 game, do keep that in mind I love your casts btw And i am doing this now (yeap its... TIME FOR BED)
I love to see the match for TvT. It's like playing paper scissors stone. Marine > Raven, Viking > Liberator > Tank > Marine ... such a cycle. I was really impressed.
This was such a great match-up, awesome to watch!!! While I prefer mixed matchups to PvP or ZvZ, I actually really enjoy TvT a lot, there is a 'pure strategy' vibe, very much like chess for sure! Thanks Lowko, love your stuff amigo!! :D
Well...in lore, BCs would take up almost the entire map. A BC often holds around 3000 people, so imagine 3000 marines spread out (they arent packed together on a ship). Their size, power, and cost are all WAY off obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be usable.
i watched the finals 1 day late and i thought this thumbnail had spoiled the BC switch of game 5... now that i watched this video i realized it's about game 6 lol
12:00 that's my biggest gripe with sc2. The ladder shouldn't be on faster x5 speed as it is, most people can't handle the game as fast as a coked up Korean pro gamer. Sc2 is less of a strategy game and more rts speed game.
Cure should have engaged while maru was counter attacking all he had to do is send them in on attack move then micro at home. At the same time easier said than done
@@joshuakim5240 I don't play coop. What are the differences? I only remember from the campaign that Raynor is just a marine with 1 more attack and 1 more armor or something
@@loganmyall660 nice joke. Broken economy with mules, broken buildings that can lift so less danger when going for rushes, and the most broken units in the game with the Ghost being an absolute cheat that has not being removed from the game all these years. Also, Serral and Reynor still destroy these "best players" even with their nerfed race.
Use your brain, Bradley. The best Koreans are Terrans and have been for years. Especially with Rogue missing in action, and Life in jail. Maru has been a constant for 10 years already (regardless of patch), so you would think people would be used to it by now. Add in TY, Byun, Innovation, etc, over the years, the Koreans have ALWAYS been the best Terrans. Non-Koreans on the other hand have basically never been good with Terran (Clem is the only one, and is below Maru, Byun, Cure), however, the top Zerg and Protoss are non-Korean. Serral (Zerg) is still today ranked the number one player in the world, and MaxPax (Protoss) is currently ranked third best player in the world. Seriously, stop whining, and just enjoy some epic games.
I am currently playing in bronze as zerg… I am not very good, but I have a APM off 70 on average and 85 to 90 on a good day, but I am currently being beaten left and right from mass battlecruiser builds by Terence that can coast along at 42 55 actions per minute, I don’t even need to scout anymore because every Theron is doing the same build and this is frustrating because it is breaking the game for everyone who isn’t playing T TERAN BATTLECRUSER….. it might not be a big problem for more advanced players, but it is pure frustration for everyone else in bronze that is not playing TERAN BATTLECRUISER….!!!!! do you or anyone think that this will be fixed in the near future, either by nursing battlecruisers or boosting surge, static defence or something, because nothing will come through it, and even though I go straight into corrupters, they trade so poorly against battlecruisers and cost too much gas so I can only replace them a couple of times before the game is done GG GGGGGG 😢 it makes it so frustrating that I am losing to the same strategy from every TT V Z …. I hope there is hope in the future for some balance for the less sophisticated. Zerg… because now it’s currently no point playing on the ladder at all………!!!!! please somebody respond to this utterance of pure frustration…..! I even lose when I go up to 115 drones versus only 50 drones for the Teran mule…..!!!!! 😂😂😂😂 I was mining from for basis when he was moaning from two😂😂😂
Wow i thought that Maru was donzo twice in this match. And getting his CC killed like 4 times and Cure being up bases seemed like the nail in the coffin. Then Maru came with the sick marine transition and just ran through Cure. Incredible.
Do you think that the reason your mirror matchup videos get less views is because they essentially exclude two thirds of players who don’t play the race of the mirror. I find myself enjoying casts of the race I play much more than casts where it’s not included. Wondering if others have any thoughts on this hypothesis.
I don't play SC2 and a good game is fun to watch no matter the races. Unless its ZvZ in which case its slightly more interesting than watching paint dry.
TvT and TvZ are my fave matchups in the game, but I am biased. I think PvP is the worst, and ZvZ is better, since sometimes ZvZ is high intensity / crazy. But it's all relative, because I think all the matchups today are in a better spot now than they were many years back when swarmhosts were first brought into the game, and pro games were regularly going for 1 hour plus with everyone just turtling. That was when SC2 went from filling stadiums to no one watching, and the fanbase never recovered from those stupid patches and pro play styles.
Watching every matchup is fun, but playing TvT is like sticking your hand into a meatgrinder. And yet as someone who plays all 3 races (not random) TvT is my best matchup against a Terran.
Loko, I formally request that you set the games to the players normal color instead of defaulting to blue and red. My argument is that color choice shows more player personality alot of known names are associated with particular colors. Thank you for your time and attention in this matter. Respectfully, -Pope
I can't adjust the colours. The colours you see are the ones the players have picked. Most tournaments have rules as far as the picked colour goes though.
@@LowkoTV I respectfully disagree in this very video when you swapped to the player camera it shows Maru having dark green units. I am not asking that you assign them colors just that you show the cast using the colors that the players themselves are actually using in game.
This game was Cure's to lose, at one point Maru had 1k mineral and was completely out of gas and Cure had like 3k/3k, that's when he decided to go BCs... This reminds me of a joke: How to become a millionaire with an airline company? Be a billionaire and buy one.
I don't understand why terran is such an effective race, and does not get nerfed by blizzard. Otherwise, just nerf the building and non-combatant unit, sick of terran infinite scan and the base race. Maybe this could make TvT more interesting? p/s: just your average backseater
@@tigera6 I don't entirely mean TvT is not interesting, it just I think terran is just harder to turnaround on economic leads. The terran unit just reward player to gain advantage while they just seating their troops on smaller ground, they held on they just win at the end. PvP, ZvZ at least they would have to commit towards very different strategy composition, for them to win (ex: mutalisk, ultralisk, colossus, disruptor, etc have very distinct and dictated battle style orientation). The strategy of terrans is too effective, you just bundle them together and you have almost universal options across the situation covered, there is little restrain or more strategy to be explored
@@ycgan8573-inspire Being defensive has always been an advantage to Terran, but defending too much will lose you map control and ability to expand quicker. But ultimately the player with map control and economic advantage must translate it into the win. You must know how to break the opponent defense with the right army and tech choice, don just mass units and walk them into dead every single time. Thats acutally the same for TvP and TvZ as well, if the Terran player want to turtle on 4-5 base, dont walk in with LingBaneHydra or Gateway units, try something else.
@@tigera6 That is the idea, terrans unit being incredibly well in defensive or highly responsive against different strategies, is what make them broken. Once timing attacks and map control are favoured on terrans, the other party have almost no method to stop their momentum. Even the pro player resorted to distractions, cutting SCV, ambush tactics, because they knew it is difficult to win the game while facing terrans head on (shouldn't this be the protoss role?)
@@ycgan8573-inspire I think it take more than just sitting at home , doing nothing but macro up. It take good setting up, positioning and awareness to pull off the "invincible wall" type of defense. If this was easy to do, we should have seen Terran winning all these times.
I am currently playing in bronze as zerg… I am not very good, but I have a APM off 70 on average and 85 to 90 on a good day, but I am currently being beaten left and right from mass battlecruiser builds by Terence that can coast along at 42 55 actions per minute, I don’t even need to scout anymore because every Theron is doing the same build and this is frustrating because it is breaking the game for everyone who isn’t playing T TERAN BATTLECRUSER….. it might not be a big problem for more advanced players, but it is pure frustration for everyone else in bronze that is not playing TERAN BATTLECRUISER….!!!!! do you or anyone think that this will be fixed in the near future, either by nursing battlecruisers or boosting surge, static defence or something, because nothing will come through it, and even though I go straight into corrupters, they trade so poorly against battlecruisers and cost too much gas so I can only replace them a couple of times before the game is done GG GGGGGG 😢 it makes it so frustrating that I am losing to the same strategy from every TT V Z …. I hope there is hope in the future for some balance for the less sophisticated. Zerg… because now it’s currently no point playing on the ladder at all………!!!!! please somebody respond to this utterance of pure frustration…..! I even lose when I go up to 115 drones versus only 50 drones for the Teran mule…..!!!!! 😂😂😂😂 I was mining from for basis when he was moaning from two😂😂😂
In the hands of a good player, the Terrans are just a very strong race compared to Zerg and Protos. The Terrans are very efficient and can do a lot more with a lot less. The other races usually need more APM, more economy, more of just about everything to keep pace with the Terrans. Against some of the best Terran players in the world, that is almost impossible.
Have you checked the EU scene? Literally most GM and pro players are Protoss there. KR is more Terran dominated because they got good players coming back from military (Byun, Gumiho) couple with players that still not leaving yet (Maru, Cure, Bunny). Protoss has lost Trap, Zest, Parting to military service, and Zerg lost Rogue who arguably the most accomplished Zerg player of all time.
hmmm.. the finalists and semi-finalists were all Terrans. Shocker, not. The latest 'balance' patch nerfed Protoss out of playability and made it highly likely that Terrans will dominate tournaments this year. Just watch.
Yeah, I dropped this after the ro.8, Terran vs Terran is the worst match in the game, and there is no entrainment watching people playing against each other using the same cheat race. Terran was already broken, it was just that the Zerg players were a few cuts above in skill because it's a harder race. Now it's just stupid, but they still cry when Serral demolishes everyone because he is clearly at a much higher skill level than the rest of the pro scene.
@@OnigoroshiZero If Serral "demolished" everyone, he would have won A LOT of tournament already for the past couple years, but he didnt. Last year actually Zerg and Protoss won tournaments as well, but somehow Terran win IEM and 1 GSL, now its the worst race? Either you just being blind by rage and hatred, or you havent watched SC2 at all.
@@tigera6 lol, are you even serious? Serral does dominate on most big tournaments that he plays. 2 times world champion, and the only player with by far the most dominating season in the game's life when he almost never even lost a map (that same year, Maru was afraid to even play against him losing in very early rounds in every tournament that Serral was in). Also, I never said that Zerg is the weakest race, Protoss is. But Terran is by far the most broken, making Zerg the middle ground.
@@OnigoroshiZero And you are joking right. Tell me how many tournament has Serral won since 2020 till now and tell me again how he has "dominated" the scene. Yes he dominated it in 2018 to mid 2019 but since then there has been fierce competition within the EU region as well as internationally. Some how you think that Serral still dominating is either you are lying, so you just didnt watch SC2 as much as you should. Maru had his share of botching and throwing, I am not denying it. But saying hes avoiding Serral is one of the stupidest and most ridiculous thing I have heard from anyone, including Serral fanboys. And was Zerg the weakest race when all the other top Zerg (Rogue, Reynor and Dark) won all those premiere tournaments in the worlds for the past 3 years?
Going BCs was not the right call. BC easily countered by raven. Cure had the game. Shame, was secretly rooting for Cure to win. Maru has too many CODE GSL trophies.
I never knew I wanted a "Maru vs Cure" game so much. AND I HAVEN'T EVEN WATCHED IT YET LESGOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
wrrr
Tbh this semi final and final is probably the best matches of the year
Maru just doesn't give up. His decision making skills are superb.
wrgg
wow, that was the hardest throw I've seen yet! Impressive decision making by Maru.
wrrr
This game really illustrates how weak tier 3 BCs can be in late game vs t1 unit like marines.
Cure was massively ahead,read that his oponent is giving up the viking war well,decided "a perfect opportunity to switch to BCs" which given the situation it really was,and he still lost the game because of the BCs.
And back in the wol/hots days BCs couldnt blink,couldnt shoot while moving and infested terran with bonus vs massive air units was a thing,beeing a BC enthusiast was even harder.
as far as the crew of a BC goes, consider this: a fully staffed Nimitz class aircraft carrier has about 6,000 people on board
"Battlecruisers are not unlike self-contained cities, and house crews ranging in size from 4000 to 7000. Besides the standard facilities required by a warship, battlecruisers boast an assortment of cantinas and rec rooms.[8]" Starcraft wiki.
@@taoofjester4113 The crews needed to get out of the cantinas and back to work. Hopefully those cocktails were good, because they were their last.
30:23 Maru had over 12 Raven. He could have disable all the tank and BC if they teleported back to help. I don't think they would added anything in the fight
Gathering the BCs in the viking cloud could've helped. not by much but it would've been possible. Ravens also disabling other ravens. Additionally, Maru jumped into the battle as soon as he had confirmation that the BCs weren't in the fight. Soaking Maru's viking shots would've helped. But also, that was 40 supply worth of units not in the battle. The BCs could've provided a ground attack role along with yamato cannon taking out additional ravens or vikings. Just painful that they weren't in the fight tbh
Bc would help a ton since they shred marines and you could yamato/disable their ravens
Although that is the main reason why bc aren’t used now since everyone spams ravens and vikings anyways so your making a troop into its counter
wrrr
@@tommydoez 4-5 BCs are not enough to fight off the Marines anyway, especially with the Anti Armor Missile on them. What counter the Marines are the Tanks but MAru took care of that with Ravens.
I love your videos so much I’ve never played StarCraft 2, but through your videos I’ve developed a deep appreciation of it. I look forward to every new video you upload!
Lowko this match and your comments are neat !
I can tell you how much value this cast are for me in day to day. thank you so much.
I absolutely love how you always get caught with the caster curse. best parts of the videos. absolute BANGER of a game
Wow what an exciting game !
I like how you play with arrows, and you are commenting so well i dont need to see it with my eyes to see it all, so when i am tired, i play one of your casts, and somewhre near start i close my eyes(because i am sleepy as hell but cant sleep) still listen and somewhere in the mid of the vid i am sleeping well, you give me best dreams i can even renembed
For me you are narrating my dream and not sc2 game, do keep that in mind
I love your casts btw
And i am doing this now (yeap its... TIME FOR BED)
"... to make sure my tea doesn't get cold ..."
Lowko, great save. I was about to forget about my tea just as it was reaching perfect temperature.
I love to see the match for TvT. It's like playing paper scissors stone. Marine > Raven, Viking > Liberator > Tank > Marine ... such a cycle. I was really impressed.
I just finished the finals but hey, I'm already ready to rewatch this game!
Great finals btw, anyone who hasn't watched should go and do so.
Best match I saw this year.
Playing whole time from behind, and still take a win?
Awesome
I think I sprouted a few gray hairs watching this. The first ten minutes were an emotional rollercoaster.
Love your casting so much! Mirror match or no, I'm watching all your videos!
Bananas gameplay the fact Maru can handle being caged with three ccs it’s just mind blowing.
Days since we last heard the LOWKO intro:2
The clouds wept a little today and I can only assume it’s because the gods are unhappy
I really thought 3 tvt's was gonna be so boring but these games especially the finals were so much fun to watch. Long live GSL!
3rd game of maru vs bunny was a banger
Cure sniping those 3 medivacs was just *chef's kiss*
Increible game as usual!
I ALWAYS press the score screen button and pause the video at the end... :)
Awesome game. Awesome cast. ❤
A great man once says “cure manage to snatch a defeat from the jaws of victory “
Amazing game. Beautiful ❤️
30:14 is hilarious.
Wow I wasn’t expecting that ending awesome game. Guess that why their the best in the world.
Lowko you are by far the best caster announcer what ever it is. keep up the good work. Just wondering any Florencio or strange gameplays coming up?
that match was awsome!
FINALLY, a Lowko outro
i have the feeling Cure had 2 "blackouts" or lag. it realy feelt like: " give me a second i have to turn of the oven"
Lowko thank you for commenting. You make the engagements more fun and interesting. ,
This was such a great match-up, awesome to watch!!! While I prefer mixed matchups to PvP or ZvZ, I actually really enjoy TvT a lot, there is a 'pure strategy' vibe, very much like chess for sure! Thanks Lowko, love your stuff amigo!! :D
Wait another Maru gsl win?! I would have never expected this
Always hard to close out a TvT advantage. Maru has all the skills to turn it around. Fantastic entertainment.
Terran is so op that it can even beat another terran from far behide.
@@Name-ru1kt Pretty sure its the saying , when Maru is behind hes even.
maybe interfearing metrix duration should be effected by the HP of what they disable ^^
Well...in lore, BCs would take up almost the entire map. A BC often holds around 3000 people, so imagine 3000 marines spread out (they arent packed together on a ship).
Their size, power, and cost are all WAY off obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be usable.
i watched the finals 1 day late and i thought this thumbnail had spoiled the BC switch of game 5... now that i watched this video i realized it's about game 6 lol
I see battlecruisers...
*I click* ... oorah~
Epic come back!
me after 30 minutes: hey I’ve seen this game already!!
great game!
Lowko, plural for 'matrix' is matrices 🤪
17:20....both of them start with a C ?!
Clem - Cure
Not Maru with 4 letters, but i was confused like you
12:00 that's my biggest gripe with sc2. The ladder shouldn't be on faster x5 speed as it is, most people can't handle the game as fast as a coked up Korean pro gamer. Sc2 is less of a strategy game and more rts speed game.
I watched the livestream. Nice to see a different point of view though.
Wow! Gamę MARU is a King o SC2!
After going BC it just became too easy for the Ravens to block a lot of army supply with Int. Matrix...
bo1 finals the way to go
what about casting 5th map? also bc switch))))
Cure should have engaged while maru was counter attacking all he had to do is send them in on attack move then micro at home. At the same time easier said than done
Daaamn i was rooting so much for Cure xd
Who called in the fleet?????????????
cheering for Cure the whole time
Maru using Co-op Jim raynor's terran..
Imagine how broken Terran would become with Raynor's P1 super bio units. Marines as tanky as Marauders going bbrrrrrr
@@joshuakim5240 I don't play coop. What are the differences? I only remember from the campaign that Raynor is just a marine with 1 more attack and 1 more armor or something
p1 is prestige 1, prestige 1 doubles every single bio units hp (including hp upgrades such as combat shield when teched) but no mules
@@KKKuma
Raynor has a prestige talent that makes all of his bio units have doubled hp but neuters his mech.
@@joshuakim5240 I see. That sound way too good. 70 HP marine
Chess witg sledgehammers
Good Game
Another TvT final and semi finals all TvT, nothing wrong here.
It's simple- the best players are Terran, because it's the most balanced race
@@loganmyall660 nice joke.
Broken economy with mules, broken buildings that can lift so less danger when going for rushes, and the most broken units in the game with the Ghost being an absolute cheat that has not being removed from the game all these years.
Also, Serral and Reynor still destroy these "best players" even with their nerfed race.
@@OnigoroshiZero Who won in IEM again?
Use your brain, Bradley. The best Koreans are Terrans and have been for years. Especially with Rogue missing in action, and Life in jail. Maru has been a constant for 10 years already (regardless of patch), so you would think people would be used to it by now. Add in TY, Byun, Innovation, etc, over the years, the Koreans have ALWAYS been the best Terrans.
Non-Koreans on the other hand have basically never been good with Terran (Clem is the only one, and is below Maru, Byun, Cure), however, the top Zerg and Protoss are non-Korean. Serral (Zerg) is still today ranked the number one player in the world, and MaxPax (Protoss) is currently ranked third best player in the world. Seriously, stop whining, and just enjoy some epic games.
I am currently playing in bronze as zerg… I am not very good, but I have a APM off 70 on average and 85 to 90 on a good day, but I am currently being beaten left and right from mass battlecruiser builds by Terence that can coast along at 42 55 actions per minute, I don’t even need to scout anymore because every Theron is doing the same build and this is frustrating because it is breaking the game for everyone who isn’t playing T TERAN BATTLECRUSER….. it might not be a big problem for more advanced players, but it is pure frustration for everyone else in bronze that is not playing TERAN BATTLECRUISER….!!!!! do you or anyone think that this will be fixed in the near future, either by nursing battlecruisers or boosting surge, static defence or something, because nothing will come through it, and even though I go straight into corrupters, they trade so poorly against battlecruisers and cost too much gas so I can only replace them a couple of times before the game is done GG GGGGGG 😢 it makes it so frustrating that I am losing to the same strategy from every TT V Z …. I hope there is hope in the future for some balance for the less sophisticated. Zerg… because now it’s currently no point playing on the ladder at all………!!!!! please somebody respond to this utterance of pure frustration…..! I even lose when I go up to 115 drones versus only 50 drones for the Teran mule…..!!!!! 😂😂😂😂 I was mining from for basis when he was moaning from two😂😂😂
480p?
Wow..who would have thought.. marines vs bc's..
Wow i thought that Maru was donzo twice in this match. And getting his CC killed like 4 times and Cure being up bases seemed like the nail in the coffin.
Then Maru came with the sick marine transition and just ran through Cure. Incredible.
Maru is always entertaining.
I don't get the problem with people and mirrors matches. TvT is amazing to watch, I hate it when I played but yo watch just beautiful
No Rush 12 minutes
hoho, seems like i got myself my break video
Hello lowko
Do you think that the reason your mirror matchup videos get less views is because they essentially exclude two thirds of players who don’t play the race of the mirror. I find myself enjoying casts of the race I play much more than casts where it’s not included. Wondering if others have any thoughts on this hypothesis.
I don't play SC2 and a good game is fun to watch no matter the races. Unless its ZvZ in which case its slightly more interesting
than watching paint dry.
TvT and TvZ are my fave matchups in the game, but I am biased. I think PvP is the worst, and ZvZ is better, since sometimes ZvZ is high intensity / crazy. But it's all relative, because I think all the matchups today are in a better spot now than they were many years back when swarmhosts were first brought into the game, and pro games were regularly going for 1 hour plus with everyone just turtling. That was when SC2 went from filling stadiums to no one watching, and the fanbase never recovered from those stupid patches and pro play styles.
Watching every matchup is fun, but playing TvT is like sticking your hand into a meatgrinder. And yet as someone who plays all 3 races (not random) TvT is my best matchup against a Terran.
это што. паркет?
Loko,
I formally request that you set the games to the players normal color instead of defaulting to blue and red.
My argument is that color choice shows more player personality alot of known names are associated with particular colors.
Thank you for your time and attention in this matter.
Respectfully,
-Pope
I can't adjust the colours. The colours you see are the ones the players have picked. Most tournaments have rules as far as the picked colour goes though.
@@LowkoTV I respectfully disagree in this very video when you swapped to the player camera it shows Maru having dark green units. I am not asking that you assign them colors just that you show the cast using the colors that the players themselves are actually using in game.
This game was Cure's to lose, at one point Maru had 1k mineral and was completely out of gas and Cure had like 3k/3k, that's when he decided to go BCs... This reminds me of a joke:
How to become a millionaire with an airline company? Be a billionaire and buy one.
Well, Maru went for BCs in the game before this, so Cure just trying to return the favor, it seems.
so good! plz stop saying let's go this isn't the way
GG
Lowko, Chess has nothing to do with quick execution and not as much to do with tactics! You are thinking of poker ;)
I don't understand why terran is such an effective race, and does not get nerfed by blizzard. Otherwise, just nerf the building and non-combatant unit, sick of terran infinite scan and the base race. Maybe this could make TvT more interesting?
p/s: just your average backseater
And somehow you think PvP and ZvZ are "interesting" ?
@@tigera6 I don't entirely mean TvT is not interesting, it just I think terran is just harder to turnaround on economic leads. The terran unit just reward player to gain advantage while they just seating their troops on smaller ground, they held on they just win at the end.
PvP, ZvZ at least they would have to commit towards very different strategy composition, for them to win (ex: mutalisk, ultralisk, colossus, disruptor, etc have very distinct and dictated battle style orientation).
The strategy of terrans is too effective, you just bundle them together and you have almost universal options across the situation covered, there is little restrain or more strategy to be explored
@@ycgan8573-inspire Being defensive has always been an advantage to Terran, but defending too much will lose you map control and ability to expand quicker. But ultimately the player with map control and economic advantage must translate it into the win. You must know how to break the opponent defense with the right army and tech choice, don just mass units and walk them into dead every single time.
Thats acutally the same for TvP and TvZ as well, if the Terran player want to turtle on 4-5 base, dont walk in with LingBaneHydra or Gateway units, try something else.
@@tigera6 That is the idea, terrans unit being incredibly well in defensive or highly responsive against different strategies, is what make them broken. Once timing attacks and map control are favoured on terrans, the other party have almost no method to stop their momentum. Even the pro player resorted to distractions, cutting SCV, ambush tactics, because they knew it is difficult to win the game while facing terrans head on (shouldn't this be the protoss role?)
@@ycgan8573-inspire I think it take more than just sitting at home , doing nothing but macro up. It take good setting up, positioning and awareness to pull off the "invincible wall" type of defense. If this was easy to do, we should have seen Terran winning all these times.
I think it is better Thor than BT when TVT or TVZ
I am currently playing in bronze as zerg… I am not very good, but I have a APM off 70 on average and 85 to 90 on a good day, but I am currently being beaten left and right from mass battlecruiser builds by Terence that can coast along at 42 55 actions per minute, I don’t even need to scout anymore because every Theron is doing the same build and this is frustrating because it is breaking the game for everyone who isn’t playing T TERAN BATTLECRUSER….. it might not be a big problem for more advanced players, but it is pure frustration for everyone else in bronze that is not playing TERAN BATTLECRUISER….!!!!! do you or anyone think that this will be fixed in the near future, either by nursing battlecruisers or boosting surge, static defence or something, because nothing will come through it, and even though I go straight into corrupters, they trade so poorly against battlecruisers and cost too much gas so I can only replace them a couple of times before the game is done GG GGGGGG 😢 it makes it so frustrating that I am losing to the same strategy from every TT V Z …. I hope there is hope in the future for some balance for the less sophisticated. Zerg… because now it’s currently no point playing on the ladder at all………!!!!! please somebody respond to this utterance of pure frustration…..! I even lose when I go up to 115 drones versus only 50 drones for the Teran mule…..!!!!! 😂😂😂😂 I was mining from for basis when he was moaning from two😂😂😂
Why are there so many terrans in top of the ladder and pro scene ?
In the hands of a good player, the Terrans are just a very strong race compared to Zerg and Protos. The Terrans are very efficient and can do a lot more with a lot less. The other races usually need more APM, more economy, more of just about everything to keep pace with the Terrans. Against some of the best Terran players in the world, that is almost impossible.
Broken race.
Have you checked the EU scene? Literally most GM and pro players are Protoss there. KR is more Terran dominated because they got good players coming back from military (Byun, Gumiho) couple with players that still not leaving yet (Maru, Cure, Bunny). Protoss has lost Trap, Zest, Parting to military service, and Zerg lost Rogue who arguably the most accomplished Zerg player of all time.
No intro? :(
'Slowly but surely' at 10:04 should comfort you :)
What was Cure doing? He should have won this game.. He got cold feet..
Is anyone going to talk about how no zergs made it to the finals? It’s almost like it’s 3X harder to play or something.
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Nice to see Terrans winning tournaments consistently again
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hmmm.. the finalists and semi-finalists were all Terrans. Shocker, not. The latest 'balance' patch nerfed Protoss out of playability and made it highly likely that Terrans will dominate tournaments this year. Just watch.
Yeah, I dropped this after the ro.8, Terran vs Terran is the worst match in the game, and there is no entrainment watching people playing against each other using the same cheat race.
Terran was already broken, it was just that the Zerg players were a few cuts above in skill because it's a harder race. Now it's just stupid, but they still cry when Serral demolishes everyone because he is clearly at a much higher skill level than the rest of the pro scene.
@@OnigoroshiZero If Serral "demolished" everyone, he would have won A LOT of tournament already for the past couple years, but he didnt. Last year actually Zerg and Protoss won tournaments as well, but somehow Terran win IEM and 1 GSL, now its the worst race? Either you just being blind by rage and hatred, or you havent watched SC2 at all.
@@tigera6 lol, are you even serious?
Serral does dominate on most big tournaments that he plays.
2 times world champion, and the only player with by far the most dominating season in the game's life when he almost never even lost a map (that same year, Maru was afraid to even play against him losing in very early rounds in every tournament that Serral was in).
Also, I never said that Zerg is the weakest race, Protoss is.
But Terran is by far the most broken, making Zerg the middle ground.
@@OnigoroshiZero And you are joking right. Tell me how many tournament has Serral won since 2020 till now and tell me again how he has "dominated" the scene. Yes he dominated it in 2018 to mid 2019 but since then there has been fierce competition within the EU region as well as internationally. Some how you think that Serral still dominating is either you are lying, so you just didnt watch SC2 as much as you should.
Maru had his share of botching and throwing, I am not denying it. But saying hes avoiding Serral is one of the stupidest and most ridiculous thing I have heard from anyone, including Serral fanboys.
And was Zerg the weakest race when all the other top Zerg (Rogue, Reynor and Dark) won all those premiere tournaments in the worlds for the past 3 years?
Going BCs was not the right call. BC easily countered by raven. Cure had the game. Shame, was secretly rooting for Cure to win. Maru has too many CODE GSL trophies.
I feel that Maru needed this win to boost his confidence again. The guy was pretty much on suicide watch since that lost in IEM Final.
such a horrible ending, like wth man, did he just decided to give up 5 to 10 min before the end?
Two people playing with a cheat race, what amazing finals... When are they going to remove Mules and balance the broken Ghost?
I am not fond of tvt man. I am more into tvz / tvp / zvp. But I reckon that was good to watch.
surprise surprise another tvt finals.
GG