Just went through IMC and I have to say it’s a pretty good course, lots of swimming, pt and learning. Also don’t treat you like garbage which makes things absurd a lot better in terms of knowledge
Interesting. Sounds like LITERALLY the complete opposite of ITB when I went through. We never swam, never pt’d, and were treated like absolute shit. But that’s good man, I hated my life, but the IMC course seems pretty tight
Do you guys know if they are going keep doing this course? I heard it was a pilot and wouldn’t be a full launch till the end of this year. I have an 03 contract but got injured during bootcamp.. im in rehab but should be finishing at the end of this month... kinda nervous about this new school.. any tips?
@@anthonyhernandez1059 it's unlikely you'll be in the new course. Delta is the next company to pick up IMC. You might have perfect timing though. Apparently they're thinking about cancelling the course because it's so damn expensive so I guess it's a possibility there won't be any more cycles. The new school is better in almost every way than the old course. It's comparable to recon and recon is in talks of changing their training to stay ahead. Don't be nervous. Whichever way you go, you're gonna be a killer. The only difference is if you're in IMC for your initial infantry training, you'll save yourself from more training when you hit the fleet. Good luck with the rest of boot. It's easy, the end flies by.
7:47 I don't entirely agree. It's not that our generation "can't handle it", its just not useful. It only gives Marines another thing to hate about the Marine Corps. If they can make it more desirable to stick around/reenlist and provide a more efficient learning environment, I 100% support the change.
That’s facts. Time and time again research has shown people learn better with positive or positive + negative reinforcement rather than just negative reinforcement. I’m sure that if this change is done right, it’ll produce even better, more efficient marines.
Keep in mind this is not a tryout for a next generation art school. They are building them to be soldiers, if they can't get used to being shouted at what do you think is gonna happen in a combat scenario.
The issue is that some things cannot be taught through verbal instruction alone. Some lessons must instruct the nervous system, not the conscious mind. It needs to be ingrained. Like immediately moving to cover when taking fire, not exposing yourself to observation, immediate reactions. The only way to truly create immediate and instinctive responses sometimes is by using pain as a teaching tool. Your body and mind remembers pain far better than words. So being kicked in the ribs will teach you not to expose yourself to fire alot better than it being explained, etc. This obviously isn't the case for all subjects, as certain subjects need to be taught in a clear, academic manner. That's why ITB has classrooms. But some things need to be delivered in a more unique way. Having more basic skills ingrained as a reflex frees up your higher level thinking for more complex strategic decision making.
Just went through IMC. Definitely had a bigger emphasis on thinking tactically, swimming, and an overall bigger importance on knowing your job and why you’re doing what you’re doing. Obviously you’re still a marine and you do what you’re told. But if you’re the one calling the shots, they make sure you can explain why you’re doing what you’re doing.
Are people getting injured or is it pretty structured? I had a stress fracture during boot camp ,never fell out and graduated . Recovering now almost out and ready to go to itb but nervous about this new school whooping my ass or getting injured again
As a normal 11 that went to ITB, I will say that the IMC people I’ve met did get to fire a lot more weapons, and learn certain things I never got the chance to in ITB, but they seemed to know a little about a lot of things rather than a lot on a few. Even basic 9 lines and CFF. They also switched up a lot of tactics with things like MOUT for example from when I was in ITB whether it be good or bad. But IMC sounds like a lot more fun because I sure as hell never shot any javelin or 320 or 240 or 50 cal or mk19 and whatever else they get. Seems like a cool course but nothing that changed drastically. If anything it seemed they need to go over those basic infantry classes a bit more.z
Much different experience than when I went through in January 2007. The instructors we had were OIF vets fresh off Baghdad and weren’t playing. Hikes to the range were ruck runs. Buddy team rushes until your cammie trousers had holes in them, no pads of any type were issued back then. Arty sims being thrown in your face. We had old LBVs and banded kevlar helmets and many of us had the old M16A2 rifles with the new ACOG. I watched an instructor slam a boot’s head into the ground at a range for veering into friendly line of fire during a live fire buddy rush (much deserved though). We learned 1 job, most became 0311s. I became a 0331 and loved machine guns. This new Marine Corps infantry training looks to be substantially improved. That way if a mortorman or machine gunner gets killed, another Marines can pick up the weapon system and use it. I’m probably too old to re-enlist as a reservist but I’m going to give it a shot.
I went through ITB in the Iraq generation as a standard 0311, and we did a shit ton of morning PT. Not sure where you guys went to ITB, but I was at Geiger. Also, when I was in, we got the shit hazed out of us. Like extreme hazing by the instructors. But in the end, it was extremely beneficial. Nothing subconsciously ingrains the lesson not expose yourself to observation like a swift kick to your sides. Sometimes you can't train the conscious mind, you have to train the reflexive nervous system, especially when responding to fire. We never swam though, except for the guys volunteering to do Recon assessment. I will say this, they did teach us the 'why' of why things were done in the way that they were done, but you had to pay attention to not miss it. They didn't really focus on it, not how they are planning to with the new generation. Most students don't care or pay attention to the explained details. I was the exception. I love understanding the whys and strategy behind shit, so I absorbed all the strategic knowledge they offered. Also, tactical decision making was taught in ITB, and especially in the Fleet, but it was considered secondary to making sure you learn the basic shit you needed to learn. Glad they're stepping that up. I'm kind of jealous, tbh. From what I hear, they're trying to turn the Infantry into a kind of lighter weight special ops type unit, working independently on their own for long periods of time, which is all pretty cool. As an 0311, you do learn a lot of cool skills in the MEU, but it looks like they are trying to turn the entire Infantry into a more advanced MEU. I wish we got all this training in our time.
1959-1960 My boot camp was 2 weeks processing 16 weeks followed 2 or 3 months of ITR then to regiment. The WW-II and Korean vets cross train all of us to do all jobs beside your MOS and emphasizing leadership on all levels including a privet who may find himself becoming the company commander during heavy fighting. It happen during those two wars and it looks like its going back to that concept.
@@IF27 I am glad you’re getting more training little brother. Just realize, when you get to the fleet, all the fuckers who think they are salty, some of the sncos who are salty, will not understand your training. It will take a few generations before it’s fully integrated into the fleet.
I disagree with Trell's version of the " ideal " Marine, a Marine can be a respectful man and still be a badass killer. He says that " you wont be able to call people bitch and you'll hear more of brother and teammate. " What is exactly bad with that? the Marines I respected most were those that conducted themselves live grown adults, not high school kids or college frats boys. Being an ass and totally fucking up new Marines in your unit doesn't make you or them a better Marine, it is detrimental to unit cohesion and causes problems in the unit. So instead of the barracks being an out of control frat house they will be more like a building full of respectful Marines, I cant wait! sounds like we will have less hazing BS and more getting along as a unit and working together.
I see it as a advantage to have the ability to be more flexible in combat , if training can provide that , the better the Marine will be in that situation.
I’m definitely glad I went through IMC I had some of the instructors in this video they were some badass dudes. The platoon commander and platoon sgt were scout snipers. Alpha Co 2nd Plt
Future operations in the Pacific are going to require line companies and Tier 2 units to co-op effectively and in some cases work interchangeably. Look at how infantry is riding in zodiacs now and operating with ODA teams when conducting littoral regiment exercises. These guys need to be ready to roll with Tier 2 guys right out of IMC, hence the new IPAT. Trell, I got out in 2011, how receptive do you think the current FMF is going to be to this new infantry?
So as one of the people that you said "had their hands held for their entire life" I agree that a lot of people my age have had their hands held a lot but I'm just saying that not everyone in the new generation of Marines is like that. I move away from home at 17 and am thinking of joining the Marines and I know for a fact that there are more men and women my age that have experienced life without their parents at all so that statement wasn't very accurate if you meant everyone from the new gen of Marines has had their hands held their entire life, a good number have but a good number haven't
For the old guys my age, when did SOI or ITS as it was for me got to 8 weeks? If my memory is correct it was 12 weeks of ITS (Infantry training school). Ands it was 6 months of training before you got to your unit. Also, when we got to our units we cross trained and learned all the jobs/position in a fireteam and squad. I’ll never forget what my first platoon lieutenant said to my platoon; “If I and the platoon SGT get killed on our mission, which one of you are going to take over my job”! He also told us about that situation happening in Vietnam and how a Corporal led a platoon to not only complete the mission, but got them back to camp. On a side note, when the heck they go from sit ups to crunchers? It was 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes for a perfect 100 score on the sit-ups.
i’m all for a longer, more in depth soi, but not so much putting an end to mos’. countless militaries throughout history failed because their men were decent at everything, rather than excellent at one individual task. removing mos’ will do nothing but make the corps a less efficient fighting force. it’ll completely remove the entire teamwork aspect of it. teaching marines how to operate other mos’ equipment (ie: a rifleman being taught the ins and outs of a machinegun, mortar, mk19, etc. instead of just his rifle) is a really good idea, though. i just hope they keep the mos’, so marines can be excellent at something, instead of mediocre at everything. same thing with the “change in tone,” i guess. if you get offended by cussing, don’t join the fucking marines lmao. other than that, though, this is a really great change!
It sounds like they are looking to avoid a problem from WWII, you knew one weapons system well, but nothing about any other weapon systems. As we became more involved, more cross training occurred after Boot Camp. My time, cave man time, we received minimal cross training in the fleet. IMHO, it's a smart idea, a much more lethal force. Rifleman can be an effective mortarman....sorry, mortar'person', machine gunner, etc. As for MOS, you will still have your primary MOS, which will make it even longer to make it to the fleet. A good, and bad, thing. Good, you will have a better understanding of the Marine Corps.....bad, you have the opportunity to develop bad habits in a 'school' environment like Trell has mentioned, alcohol and opposite sex.
There are certainly pros and cons. Being in the Army and spending your entire infantry life in light fighter units then going to a mechanized unit , being in charge of a squad/platoon and not knowing wtf you’re doing in a Bradley or a Stryker.
I thought your comments about the newer generation not being able to handle the toxicity and roughness of the Marine Corps were off base completely. Having been apart of an infantry unit that has both the old ITB and new IMC guys. I can tell you that the new IMC guys are built different. They all knew how to make their own ghillie, were proficient with their weapons and other sections weapons, and were definitely a little bit more chill than the older Marines who were nearing the end of their contract. I had also spent a lot of time attached to a Recon unit and they were significantly more chill and in line with what was said about the new corps. They just treated their guys like humans and like adults. If you messed up, believe me, you paid for it. But you didn't get berated and swore at endlessly. It was just an understanding. Cool, you messed up and had to get hazed a little? You good to continue work? Good to go. No bitching or whining, and overall the morale was significantly better in that type of environment versus the typical Infantry unit.
So, it sounds like the Marine Corps is going back to the what the Marine Corps of the 1980’s! Yes I was an 0311, and during my tour I competed against Army Rangers in a tactical course , I spent six weeks in Coronado, CA being trained in a lot of water and amphibious tactics from Seals and Recon Marines, trained with Indonesian Gurkhas,as well many foreign forces from Southeast Asia. Completed my 30 day desert training in 29 Palms, 30 day Winter training in Bridgeport, Ca, months of jungle training in Okinawa, Japan and all throughout Southeast Asia. A lot of cross training in ground air support and combat engineer training. I qualified and held every weapon and position as an 0311 when I was in. I say all this, NOT to toot my own horn, but to show that it looks like the Marine Corps is going back to providing more brad base training like I had. But, I am only a sample size of one as they say.
I agree with around 2:20 and 3:30 the Marine Corps is late with being a jack of a trades grunt. In the Army Infantry we were already like that, so it definitely looks like the Marine Corps is implementing how the Army does things.
What do you mean that small unit leadership sounds like the Army? I thought that was always what set us apart from everyone, the fact that Cpl’s can make decisions that other E-4’s and E-5’s from other services couldn’t make.
make sure you know how to swim beforehand because you are just gonna keep going to the pool until you get wsi certified. Also make sure you actually study the notes you take constantly, they throw alot of knowledge at you.
I was about ready to get cussed tf out but now knowing we gonna be babynized... man I wish I joined a little sooner. Wanted to come up the “MARINE WAY”. 😂😭
Haha trust me you’re still gonna hate life and get yelled at. You’re just going to be treated better which I’m retrospect might actually let u gain understanding of your mos instead of just getting hazed the fuck out of. That’s all ITB ever was for me and trust me you do not want to do the dumb shit because that is the “Marine way”. You’re gonna realize that the”Marine Way” is just make everything harder than it should and do stupid shit for no reason”
That's because that so-called commandant, took away the tanks and artillery, have to rely on the army for artillery and or tank support. USMC 1974-1978
not gonna lie, watching how these new infantry are trained makes me jealous. went through infantry school as an 0311 in 2007, i always found it strange that we were split up into MOS and never learned ANYTHING about other 03xx weapons. 0311 just did rifleman stuff and that was it, if you were lucky and had a good company then weapons platoon would kick some classes on how to drop a mortar or how to work a 240 / mk19 or an assaultment actually do assaultment stuff
I was in 2012-16 so not that long ago but long enough. I was an E-5 when i was getting out and saw a lot of value in chewing my juniors out and fuckin them up cause thats how my seniors brought me up. I honestly looking back don't think it made us actually better at being Marines so idk I guess we'll see how this being nice to dudes shit works haha
Their only doing 2 on the east coast this year. They just started the first group the second group will be around September all this is rolling out full time next year
Coming to the USMC on 21 Oct 2024. 8.5 yr prior service Army(Active Duty). I know this is 3yrs old but just in time bc it looks like we are very likely going to end up in the Middle East again. Buuut it could play out badly and having the military stretched between Middle East, Ukraine/Russia, and China/Taiwan.
My son is currently in ITB he says BootCamp was a walk in the park compared. You are right about your Gen-Z assessment they complain way more, the cussing and rowdy behavior is still on.
@@214.jj__2 I was in the pilot course for imc, they didn’t let us try out for recon just bc it’s a new course and they needed the numbers. It may be different for new cycles
@@214.jj__2 Yeah absolutely. The way it is now, you may volunteer prior to going through ITB or even after you graduate. My advice is, if you deem yourself fit enough for recon, complete ITB first as a 03XX that way if you fail, you don’t get POGed out. If you do the 8 week legacy program you can volunteer at the split, don’t do that, you will get POGed out if you fail. That being said I’m sure that most marines will suggest you spend your first 2 years in a regular infantry unit before trying out for recon. Recon is extremely difficult and if your body isn’t prepared for you can easily get injured. I literally watch these recon dudes run a mile and a half to the chow hall and then a mile and a half back to their barracks, three times a day. It’s a fucking slay fest
In theory sounds good but what you’re missing with this course is the ability to master one part of the MOS and becoming a subject matter expert in those tasks. I started out as a machine gunner and mastered that and then we’re taught other MOS’s in order to employ other tactics and better understand the battle space and what I can offer as an infantryman and more importantly as a machine gunner bc I understand mortars, rifleman, demo, snipers, and basic war fighter tasks. What they’re doing now is essentially making off brand rangers with no selection or mastery of the war fighter skills to make you a better operator. Something I see in army special operations is they master one part of their job and are pulling away from this “jack of all trades” mentality bc you’re a master of none. Even the basic army infantry is starting to pull away from this model of learn everything. What we do in army SOF is pretty much what I did in the fleet which is master you specific job and cross train on everyone else’s job. Which I think would fit the corps much better and allow them to be more elite. And throwing in a selection much like how RASP is ran would also help with the quality control of the war fighter but that’s just one old devils opinion
It’s a well rounded approach. With this new training you can train these new Marines in Multiple MOS’s and evaluate which specific MOS they excel in. When they get to the fleet they can be placed In the proper MOS which they’re good at and then master it. If you consider yourself to be a master after a couple months of ITB then you’ve stopped learning and perfecting your trade. Which is not what Marines do.
Marines just playing catch up. Most first world Commonwealth country's UK, Australia, NZ etc... Have had this approach since the 60s. In Australia it was 3 months recruit course, 3 month infantry course. I believe infantry training is even longer since I got out in 09 after 22 years of service. The mass industrial approach that is so imbedded in America was never a good model. So welcome to the new world, 30 years ago, 🤣. Still playing catch up. Still a generation behind in training and personal skills, knowledge and equipment. 🇦🇺🇳🇿🇬🇧
The length yeah. But the Army has always had their infantrymen learn everything(riflemen/machine gunner roles/anti armor etc). There’s only infantrymen and indirect fire infantrymen.
I like where half of this is going. I hate the other half where there pussifying the military branches instead of toughening up these new coming birth cavities
I’m currently in IMC for the East Coast and currently from what I hear about legacy the training is so much better and you get treated better than legacy in IMC
Hey Devil, I can't seem to find anything online about this but is that new Infantry Physical Assessment being done at the Battalion level in the fleet? Rah
I’d honestly rather have them talk to me as a grown man & cuss me out, that encouragement to not mess up instead of giving chances, chances= more & more potential Mistakes.. I don’t agree with them being “easier”
As for the length of ITB, IMHO 14 weeks isn't long enough and IMHO most non-combat MOS's should be contracted out to either the Navy and/or Civilians. I went through Boot back in '81 we got a whole 1 week of condensed ITB training during our 2nd phase; that was fubar. As for this mindset "put your arms around someone and coddle them on how great you are or are not" is BS. Marine Corps does one thing, it fights wars/battles, mental training is just as important as physical training. The enemy is not going to send over a Lunchable and kool-aid in a sippy cup just because you're having a mental breakdown during a firefight. Bottom line, civilian politics/social crap has no place in a warrior's life.
@@marcuse7261 Just joined the DEP earlier this Monday and I’m real excited because next summer after my last year of high school I can finally be a 0331. I really don’t want them to change the yelling because it may suck it grows character and gives people thick skin, which most people in this generation DESPERATELY need. But hey I’m not gonna complain if they do because like you said, I get to blow shit up for a living.
About to leave this month. Was wanting to go infantry, but decided to take your advice considering I’m a father. Either going MT or looking at Aviation MOS’s which would you choose considering your experience?
Sup Trell, I’m shipping June 7th to bootcamp. I’ve been watch you ever since I enlisted which was June 28 of last year. Thank you for your service, now it is my turn.
@@abraham8310 the Army has been training their infantrymen to do all of the infantry tasks instead of splitting it up into multiple different MOS’s. There was only infantryman and indirect fire infantryman
If you’re doing a lat move to 31 you’ll more than likely go through the actual 31 section of ITB again. Like you’ll do the last 4 weeks of specific machine gunner training and not the full 8 week ITB
@@starspangledmanlet6999 my PSR said that I’ll be doing 1 month at ITB and one month at basic machine gunners school. I’ll just have to see when I get there then. Thanks for the feedback.
What’s up man I’m leaving for boot camp in 9 days I enlisted for infantry open contact meps screwed up one of my vision tests but I will do it again at boot camp get it fixed thanks for the video man
I missed the cut off date to join the corps,but I'm not to late for the army,so I'm gonna join the army,put in my 4 years and decide if I wanna stay in the army or switch over to marine corps and claim both tittles
I’m currently in Imc and our instructor teaches and fucks us up at the same time. It’s a learning environment but also pretty hard in terms of knowledge. They want you to think. I’m not capable of that. That’s why I got dropped from 2-tact to 3-tact cause I’m retarded. And might even get reclassed. It’s still physically demanding. Probably more cause we do the capstone at week 14 which is the crucible on steroids.
Dont stress bro at least you have your youth. Use this to your advantage and use this extra time you have these next few years plot yourself a concrete plan. Trust me.
Just enjoy your time as a 15 year old. I’m 20 and I’m trying to give you the best advice possible man. After you hit 18 life will start getting way faster, so please for the love of god enjoy the age you’re at right now
@@bandolierboy1908 21.. feel like I’m always running out of time and I’m a disappointment.. been thinking about joining for years.. failed the asvab 3 times
I dunno...my ssgt and gunny was still calling people bags of bitches during pt when I was poolee. I dont think usmc will stop that, its fundamental to their identity
Hey typing this January of 2022,does anyone know if I sign an infantry contract now,will it be the cross trained infantry?so to clarify I mean will it not be specialized but instead be each individual is trained in all the 03xx roles? anyone have updated info on their personal experience in infantry?
The professionalism is the same , guns are the same , same shooting and war táctics , same tanks, same intitutions , same logístic , only less louder and more Technology like drones , ummanned vehicules , more computer etc ... Some people Will find something to complain and become An anti army anti marine Etc... This is changing because people that use media to make videos complains for everything weak mindset... In the pass marine , army etc all changed Wepaons ,training táctics etc.
This restructuring of ITB is nothing new for infantry, I always told my Marines we are 03 everything. We train to do our job, comms, admin, motor t, heavy weapons, intel, medical everything. ITB is years behind what should of been taught there but was learned in the fleet. The length of the training only matters if it’s to the fleets expectations if not it’s a waste of time, money and assets.
learn infantry now so then when you go to the fleet u pt there. i got the very first batch of boots that went to imc and their response is that they dont remember... yes they get taught a lot of shit but when you put them through pt they didnt retain jack shit so now you have to figure out wtf they know so you can go through the drills of panic mode knowledge retention.....and they cant even do 35 push ups..... wtf?
Friend, I'm mainly interested in one topic-Getting out. How does the fellow who has made the worst mistake of his life and feels like that he's in some "Twilight Zone" version of Hell, get out as FAST AS POSSIBLE!?! (I loathed people who use to say, "I'd leave tomorrow-IF I could get a good discharge…" Moron, IF you really want to get out as bad as you want that next breath of air-you DON'T CARE what kind of Discharge you get-not even a LITTLE.) Second, what ingenious methods have you seen used to get out!?!
@@angelicaarroyo7845 Yeah, I have a family tendency toward VERY MORBID ObESITY. I managed to keep it at bay until the military-where, quite frankly, I was too miserable to limit my food intake or to care about my weight. THEN they PUNISHED me for being overweight by putting me on a special diet and restricting me to base and forcing me to do extra exercises. "You WILL lose weight or we'll kick you out!" "Kick me out NOW! Cause if being overweight will get me out. I sure as HELL won't lose weight!" "No, we HAVE to give you a 6-Month "Opportunity" to meet military standards." I don't know if all the deliberate over-eating messed up my Metabolism or if God punished me for the colossal perversion of deliberately trying to be fat-but I never again got my weight under control-and life isn't worth living for a Fat man. No matter what good qualities that you have, a fat man is only good to play life's comedy relief. Went in at 211 and ran 11-miles every day. 10-months later, I weighed 280 and couldn't run a quarter-mile. Never got my weight below 250 again. 40-Years later, I look back nostalgically on how good it felt to be in shape and go on a LONG RUN. The military took that away from me. BIG PS: I got an "Honorable Discharge"-not that it mattered to me even a little.
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Just went through IMC and I have to say it’s a pretty good course, lots of swimming, pt and learning. Also don’t treat you like garbage which makes things absurd a lot better in terms of knowledge
Oh really🧐
Interesting. Sounds like LITERALLY the complete opposite of ITB when I went through. We never swam, never pt’d, and were treated like absolute shit.
But that’s good man, I hated my life, but the IMC course seems pretty tight
I start the second cycle on Tuesday
Do you guys know if they are going keep doing this course? I heard it was a pilot and wouldn’t be a full launch till the end of this year. I have an 03 contract but got injured during bootcamp.. im in rehab but should be finishing at the end of this month... kinda nervous about this new school.. any tips?
@@anthonyhernandez1059 it's unlikely you'll be in the new course. Delta is the next company to pick up IMC. You might have perfect timing though. Apparently they're thinking about cancelling the course because it's so damn expensive so I guess it's a possibility there won't be any more cycles. The new school is better in almost every way than the old course. It's comparable to recon and recon is in talks of changing their training to stay ahead. Don't be nervous. Whichever way you go, you're gonna be a killer. The only difference is if you're in IMC for your initial infantry training, you'll save yourself from more training when you hit the fleet. Good luck with the rest of boot. It's easy, the end flies by.
7:47 I don't entirely agree. It's not that our generation "can't handle it", its just not useful. It only gives Marines another thing to hate about the Marine Corps. If they can make it more desirable to stick around/reenlist and provide a more efficient learning environment, I 100% support the change.
That’s facts. Time and time again research has shown people learn better with positive or positive + negative reinforcement rather than just negative reinforcement. I’m sure that if this change is done right, it’ll produce even better, more efficient marines.
Keep in mind this is not a tryout for a next generation art school. They are building them to be soldiers, if they can't get used to being shouted at what do you think is gonna happen in a combat scenario.
The issue is that some things cannot be taught through verbal instruction alone. Some lessons must instruct the nervous system, not the conscious mind. It needs to be ingrained. Like immediately moving to cover when taking fire, not exposing yourself to observation, immediate reactions. The only way to truly create immediate and instinctive responses sometimes is by using pain as a teaching tool. Your body and mind remembers pain far better than words. So being kicked in the ribs will teach you not to expose yourself to fire alot better than it being explained, etc. This obviously isn't the case for all subjects, as certain subjects need to be taught in a clear, academic manner. That's why ITB has classrooms. But some things need to be delivered in a more unique way. Having more basic skills ingrained as a reflex frees up your higher level thinking for more complex strategic decision making.
"newer generations cannot handle that talk anymore" this dude needs a vibe check bro
@@josehernandez2219 he's talking about the vast majority
Just went through IMC. Definitely had a bigger emphasis on thinking tactically, swimming, and an overall bigger importance on knowing your job and why you’re doing what you’re doing. Obviously you’re still a marine and you do what you’re told. But if you’re the one calling the shots, they make sure you can explain why you’re doing what you’re doing.
What unit did you go to
whats IMC?
Are people getting injured or is it pretty structured? I had a stress fracture during boot camp ,never fell out and graduated . Recovering now almost out and ready to go to itb but nervous about this new school whooping my ass or getting injured again
What platoon sine only us at alpha did it. (West coast)
As a normal 11 that went to ITB, I will say that the IMC people I’ve met did get to fire a lot more weapons, and learn certain things I never got the chance to in ITB, but they seemed to know a little about a lot of things rather than a lot on a few. Even basic 9 lines and CFF. They also switched up a lot of tactics with things like MOUT for example from when I was in ITB whether it be good or bad. But IMC sounds like a lot more fun because I sure as hell never shot any javelin or 320 or 240 or 50 cal or mk19 and whatever else they get. Seems like a cool course but nothing that changed drastically. If anything it seemed they need to go over those basic infantry classes a bit more.z
Much different experience than when I went through in January 2007. The instructors we had were OIF vets fresh off Baghdad and weren’t playing. Hikes to the range were ruck runs. Buddy team rushes until your cammie trousers had holes in them, no pads of any type were issued back then. Arty sims being thrown in your face. We had old LBVs and banded kevlar helmets and many of us had the old M16A2 rifles with the new ACOG. I watched an instructor slam a boot’s head into the ground at a range for veering into friendly line of fire during a live fire buddy rush (much deserved though). We learned 1 job, most became 0311s. I became a 0331 and loved machine guns.
This new Marine Corps infantry training looks to be substantially improved. That way if a mortorman or machine gunner gets killed, another Marines can pick up the weapon system and use it. I’m probably too old to re-enlist as a reservist but I’m going to give it a shot.
I went through ITB in the Iraq generation as a standard 0311, and we did a shit ton of morning PT. Not sure where you guys went to ITB, but I was at Geiger. Also, when I was in, we got the shit hazed out of us. Like extreme hazing by the instructors. But in the end, it was extremely beneficial. Nothing subconsciously ingrains the lesson not expose yourself to observation like a swift kick to your sides. Sometimes you can't train the conscious mind, you have to train the reflexive nervous system, especially when responding to fire. We never swam though, except for the guys volunteering to do Recon assessment. I will say this, they did teach us the 'why' of why things were done in the way that they were done, but you had to pay attention to not miss it. They didn't really focus on it, not how they are planning to with the new generation. Most students don't care or pay attention to the explained details. I was the exception. I love understanding the whys and strategy behind shit, so I absorbed all the strategic knowledge they offered. Also, tactical decision making was taught in ITB, and especially in the Fleet, but it was considered secondary to making sure you learn the basic shit you needed to learn. Glad they're stepping that up. I'm kind of jealous, tbh. From what I hear, they're trying to turn the Infantry into a kind of lighter weight special ops type unit, working independently on their own for long periods of time, which is all pretty cool. As an 0311, you do learn a lot of cool skills in the MEU, but it looks like they are trying to turn the entire Infantry into a more advanced MEU. I wish we got all this training in our time.
I’m shipping as a back up June 1st hopefully everything goes well.infantry ofc🥴
Update- waiting on my shuttle bus nervous asf.
how do you ship as a backup?
@@KaidenAT there has to be something wrong with someone shipping that day,so someone has to fill that spot.
@@alexandermorales9420 ah i see, i thought it was like another way of saying reservists or sumn
I was offered, but unfortunately I have family things then. Still set for 6/27
@@KaidenAT back ups are sent all the time for those that want to go prior to their original ship date
So 13 weeks of Basic, 14 weeks of infantry training? Damn!! Gonna be hard when I join but don’t want it any other way!!
Facts. I’m debating if I should join the marines/army.
@@mrtoast3353 want pride? join the marines. want benefits? join the army.
@@cadenmerritt6785so join navy or AF what the difference do those two also
@@mrtoast3353 I’m gonna do 4 in the marines, transfer to army and be a ranger or SF
@@LvoZee05 go to MARSOC or even Force Recon its along the same lines👍🏾 no need to switch branches
Daddy trell dropping videos back to back
1959-1960 My boot camp was 2 weeks processing 16 weeks followed 2 or 3 months of ITR then to regiment. The WW-II and Korean vets cross train all of us to do all jobs beside your MOS and emphasizing leadership on all levels including a privet who may find himself becoming the company commander during heavy fighting. It happen during those two wars and it looks like its going back to that concept.
The IMC is currently is in its pilot phase, being 14 weeks long. The final version will be extended to 18 weeks after everything is ironed out.
Negative, they just picked up their new guys, which is me
@@IF27 I am glad you’re getting more training little brother. Just realize, when you get to the fleet, all the fuckers who think they are salty, some of the sncos who are salty, will not understand your training. It will take a few generations before it’s fully integrated into the fleet.
I disagree with Trell's version of the " ideal " Marine, a Marine can be a respectful man and still be a badass killer. He says that " you wont be able to call people bitch and you'll hear more of brother and teammate. " What is exactly bad with that? the Marines I respected most were those that conducted themselves live grown adults, not high school kids or college frats boys. Being an ass and totally fucking up new Marines in your unit doesn't make you or them a better Marine, it is detrimental to unit cohesion and causes problems in the unit. So instead of the barracks being an out of control frat house they will be more like a building full of respectful Marines, I cant wait! sounds like we will have less hazing BS and more getting along as a unit and working together.
Good counter
@@TrelltheGreat
I see it as a advantage to have the ability to be more flexible in combat , if training can provide that , the better the Marine will be in that situation.
I’m definitely glad I went through IMC I had some of the instructors in this video they were some badass dudes. The platoon commander and platoon sgt were scout snipers. Alpha Co 2nd Plt
Future operations in the Pacific are going to require line companies and Tier 2 units to co-op effectively and in some cases work interchangeably. Look at how infantry is riding in zodiacs now and operating with ODA teams when conducting littoral regiment exercises. These guys need to be ready to roll with Tier 2 guys right out of IMC, hence the new IPAT.
Trell, I got out in 2011, how receptive do you think the current FMF is going to be to this new infantry?
So as one of the people that you said "had their hands held for their entire life" I agree that a lot of people my age have had their hands held a lot but I'm just saying that not everyone in the new generation of Marines is like that. I move away from home at 17 and am thinking of joining the Marines and I know for a fact that there are more men and women my age that have experienced life without their parents at all so that statement wasn't very accurate if you meant everyone from the new gen of Marines has had their hands held their entire life, a good number have but a good number haven't
For the old guys my age, when did SOI or ITS as it was for me got to 8 weeks? If my memory is correct it was 12 weeks of ITS (Infantry training school). Ands it was 6 months of training before you got to your unit. Also, when we got to our units we cross trained and learned all the jobs/position in a fireteam and squad. I’ll never forget what my first platoon lieutenant said to my platoon; “If I and the platoon SGT get killed on our mission, which one of you are going to take over my job”! He also told us about that situation happening in Vietnam and how a Corporal led a platoon to not only complete the mission, but got them back to camp.
On a side note, when the heck they go from sit ups to crunchers? It was 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes for a perfect 100 score on the sit-ups.
If you joined after 2001, you are part of the new Corps lmao
Remember those salty ass woodlands?
Nah 2014 2001-2014 fought the fucking war lmao while the boomers got out
@@Walk_Off_0311 then right after directly it began to die
Got out of ITB a few months ago, new IMC got bumped up to 18 weeks. They're also doing a pistol qual at the entry level
No they’re not
i’m all for a longer, more in depth soi, but not so much putting an end to mos’. countless militaries throughout history failed because their men were decent at everything, rather than excellent at one individual task. removing mos’ will do nothing but make the corps a less efficient fighting force. it’ll completely remove the entire teamwork aspect of it.
teaching marines how to operate other mos’ equipment (ie: a rifleman being taught the ins and outs of a machinegun, mortar, mk19, etc. instead of just his rifle) is a really good idea, though. i just hope they keep the mos’, so marines can be excellent at something, instead of mediocre at everything. same thing with the “change in tone,” i guess. if you get offended by cussing, don’t join the fucking marines lmao.
other than that, though, this is a really great change!
I heard from Marine Corps Times this was the case, but the video never mentions anything about 1 consolidated MOS???
It sounds like they are looking to avoid a problem from WWII, you knew one weapons system well, but nothing about any other weapon systems. As we became more involved, more cross training occurred after Boot Camp. My time, cave man time, we received minimal cross training in the fleet. IMHO, it's a smart idea, a much more lethal force. Rifleman can be an effective mortarman....sorry, mortar'person', machine gunner, etc. As for MOS, you will still have your primary MOS, which will make it even longer to make it to the fleet. A good, and bad, thing. Good, you will have a better understanding of the Marine Corps.....bad, you have the opportunity to develop bad habits in a 'school' environment like Trell has mentioned, alcohol and opposite sex.
"Jack of all trades; master of none"
It's got its pros & cons
There are certainly pros and cons. Being in the Army and spending your entire infantry life in light fighter units then going to a mechanized unit , being in charge of a squad/platoon and not knowing wtf you’re doing in a Bradley or a Stryker.
ITB was 12 weeks when I was in. Spent Oct-Dec 1996 at Camp Geiger before joining the fleet.
I thought your comments about the newer generation not being able to handle the toxicity and roughness of the Marine Corps were off base completely. Having been apart of an infantry unit that has both the old ITB and new IMC guys. I can tell you that the new IMC guys are built different. They all knew how to make their own ghillie, were proficient with their weapons and other sections weapons, and were definitely a little bit more chill than the older Marines who were nearing the end of their contract. I had also spent a lot of time attached to a Recon unit and they were significantly more chill and in line with what was said about the new corps. They just treated their guys like humans and like adults. If you messed up, believe me, you paid for it. But you didn't get berated and swore at endlessly. It was just an understanding. Cool, you messed up and had to get hazed a little? You good to continue work? Good to go. No bitching or whining, and overall the morale was significantly better in that type of environment versus the typical Infantry unit.
Do you know if the infantry physical assessment done at IMC is required at the BN level now?
@@SlimeSquare nope I have no idea tbh. Sorry bro
So, it sounds like the Marine Corps is going back to the what the Marine Corps of the 1980’s!
Yes I was an 0311, and during my tour I competed against Army Rangers in a tactical course , I spent six weeks in Coronado, CA being trained in a lot of water and amphibious tactics from Seals and Recon Marines, trained with Indonesian Gurkhas,as well many foreign forces from Southeast Asia. Completed my 30 day desert training in 29 Palms, 30 day Winter training in Bridgeport, Ca, months of jungle training in Okinawa, Japan and all throughout Southeast Asia. A lot of cross training in ground air support and combat engineer training. I qualified and held every weapon and position as an 0311 when I was in.
I say all this, NOT to toot my own horn, but to show that it looks like the Marine Corps is going back to providing more brad base training like I had. But, I am only a sample size of one as they say.
Currently at ITB, only have 2 weeks left until we get our leave and find out our duty stations. Semper Fi!
how’s the fleet?
If everyone is out learning new grunt stuff who is doing the "field days' and painting the rocks in the Company area?
Trell funny ashit “ if we fail we know we going to get fuck up “ 😂😂😂
if the new generation wants to join I think it would be because of how marines are thought to be badasses...
I agree with around 2:20 and 3:30 the Marine Corps is late with being a jack of a trades grunt. In the Army Infantry we were already like that, so it definitely looks like the Marine Corps is implementing how the Army does things.
We the Marines are the best awhole lot better than the Army or any other branch
What do you mean that small unit leadership sounds like the Army? I thought that was always what set us apart from everyone, the fact that Cpl’s can make decisions that other E-4’s and E-5’s from other services couldn’t make.
make sure you know how to swim beforehand because you are just gonna keep going to the pool until you get wsi certified. Also make sure you actually study the notes you take constantly, they throw alot of knowledge at you.
I was about ready to get cussed tf out but now knowing we gonna be babynized... man I wish I joined a little sooner. Wanted to come up the “MARINE WAY”. 😂😭
Haha trust me you’re still gonna hate life and get yelled at. You’re just going to be treated better which I’m retrospect might actually let u gain understanding of your mos instead of just getting hazed the fuck out of. That’s all ITB ever was for me and trust me you do not want to do the dumb shit because that is the “Marine way”. You’re gonna realize that the”Marine Way” is just make everything harder than it should and do stupid shit for no reason”
There's three ways of doing things, the right way, the wrong way and the Marine way. And the Marine way is usually stupid and long.
Man I’ve been here since 8k Sub’s, Trell the Realist 💯
Thank you💯
That's because that so-called commandant, took away the tanks and artillery, have to rely on the army for artillery and or tank support. USMC 1974-1978
not gonna lie, watching how these new infantry are trained makes me jealous. went through infantry school as an 0311 in 2007, i always found it strange that we were split up into MOS and never learned ANYTHING about other 03xx weapons. 0311 just did rifleman stuff and that was it, if you were lucky and had a good company then weapons platoon would kick some classes on how to drop a mortar or how to work a 240 / mk19 or an assaultment actually do assaultment stuff
The adult learning model can lead down a very watered down pathway. Looks very good on paper.
I was in 2012-16 so not that long ago but long enough. I was an E-5 when i was getting out and saw a lot of value in chewing my juniors out and fuckin them up cause thats how my seniors brought me up. I honestly looking back don't think it made us actually better at being Marines so idk I guess we'll see how this being nice to dudes shit works haha
That nice shit just isn't the Marine Corps way. You succeeded because you want to 💤 😴 at night. There is a method to the madness
War clouds are no time for experiments.
Must have been a POG if ur e5
Yep Weapons Co radio operator
Glad all of this is going down as I am now going in here coming next month. 😎👍
New environment? Who knew on 9-10-01 what the battlefield would look like a week later?
Is this good or bad?
Their only doing 2 on the east coast this year. They just started the first group the second group will be around September all this is rolling out full time next year
im shipping July 19th you think it’ll be in place by then?
Oh so that’s why I’m still waiting to get shipped out?…wtf 🙄🤦🏻♂️
Sounds like they are transforming into the Army....he said it..not me 😂
It's actually true. The Marine littoral regiments that are being built are just like an Army brigade combat team.
Coming to the USMC on 21 Oct 2024. 8.5 yr prior service Army(Active Duty). I know this is 3yrs old but just in time bc it looks like we are very likely going to end up in the Middle East again. Buuut it could play out badly and having the military stretched between Middle East, Ukraine/Russia, and China/Taiwan.
That’s not bad haha I did 22 weeks at benning for Army infantry that’s pretty much 6 months.
My son is currently in ITB he says BootCamp was a walk in the park compared. You are right about your Gen-Z assessment they complain way more, the cussing and rowdy behavior is still on.
I’m in it right now, HMU with any questions you have!
Does infantry give you the chance to try out for recon? I don’t want a recon contract so I’m going in as infantry but I really want to try out.
@@214.jj__2 I was in the pilot course for imc, they didn’t let us try out for recon just bc it’s a new course and they needed the numbers. It may be different for new cycles
@@214.jj__2 Yeah absolutely. The way it is now, you may volunteer prior to going through ITB or even after you graduate. My advice is, if you deem yourself fit enough for recon, complete ITB first as a 03XX that way if you fail, you don’t get POGed out. If you do the 8 week legacy program you can volunteer at the split, don’t do that, you will get POGed out if you fail.
That being said I’m sure that most marines will suggest you spend your first 2 years in a regular infantry unit before trying out for recon. Recon is extremely difficult and if your body isn’t prepared for you can easily get injured. I literally watch these recon dudes run a mile and a half to the chow hall and then a mile and a half back to their barracks, three times a day. It’s a fucking slay fest
@@Bfinkfit Yeah they changed it for us.
Marines or army infantry bro? I trying to pick the right one.
Marine here: let the great Chesty Puller address this:” Old Breed; New Breed; I don’t care as long as it’s the Marine Breed.”…
This is a drastic change from when I went through AIT in '92.
In theory sounds good but what you’re missing with this course is the ability to master one part of the MOS and becoming a subject matter expert in those tasks. I started out as a machine gunner and mastered that and then we’re taught other MOS’s in order to employ other tactics and better understand the battle space and what I can offer as an infantryman and more importantly as a machine gunner bc I understand mortars, rifleman, demo, snipers, and basic war fighter tasks. What they’re doing now is essentially making off brand rangers with no selection or mastery of the war fighter skills to make you a better operator. Something I see in army special operations is they master one part of their job and are pulling away from this “jack of all trades” mentality bc you’re a master of none. Even the basic army infantry is starting to pull away from this model of learn everything. What we do in army SOF is pretty much what I did in the fleet which is master you specific job and cross train on everyone else’s job. Which I think would fit the corps much better and allow them to be more elite. And throwing in a selection much like how RASP is ran would also help with the quality control of the war fighter but that’s just one old devils opinion
It’s a well rounded approach. With this new training you can train these new Marines in Multiple MOS’s and evaluate which specific MOS they excel in. When they get to the fleet they can be placed In the proper MOS which they’re good at and then master it. If you consider yourself to be a master after a couple months of ITB then you’ve stopped learning and perfecting your trade. Which is not what Marines do.
Marines just playing catch up. Most first world Commonwealth country's UK, Australia, NZ etc... Have had this approach since the 60s. In Australia it was 3 months recruit course, 3 month infantry course. I believe infantry training is even longer since I got out in 09 after 22 years of service.
The mass industrial approach that is so imbedded in America was never a good model. So welcome to the new world, 30 years ago, 🤣. Still playing catch up. Still a generation behind in training and personal skills, knowledge and equipment. 🇦🇺🇳🇿🇬🇧
The army upgraded also
The length yeah. But the Army has always had their infantrymen learn everything(riflemen/machine gunner roles/anti armor etc). There’s only infantrymen and indirect fire infantrymen.
I go to basic in August, i'm kinda nervious
I’m also going in august
Yo me too, my ship date is the 9th
I like where half of this is going. I hate the other half where there pussifying the military branches instead of toughening up these new coming birth cavities
Thank you 🙏❤️
I’m currently in IMC for the East Coast and currently from what I hear about legacy the training is so much better and you get treated better than legacy in IMC
Hey Devil, I can't seem to find anything online about this but is that new Infantry Physical Assessment being done at the Battalion level in the fleet? Rah
I’d honestly rather have them talk to me as a grown man & cuss me out, that encouragement to not mess up instead of giving chances, chances= more & more potential Mistakes.. I don’t agree with them being “easier”
My experience is way different
As for the length of ITB, IMHO 14 weeks isn't long enough and IMHO most non-combat MOS's should be contracted out to either the Navy and/or Civilians. I went through Boot back in '81 we got a whole 1 week of condensed ITB training during our 2nd phase; that was fubar.
As for this mindset "put your arms around someone and coddle them on how great you are or are not" is BS. Marine Corps does one thing, it fights wars/battles, mental training is just as important as physical training. The enemy is not going to send over a Lunchable and kool-aid in a sippy cup just because you're having a mental breakdown during a firefight. Bottom line, civilian politics/social crap has no place in a warrior's life.
Hey man these videos are very helpful
Great video Evan
I hope they don’t change the cursing talk, the new generation needs that wake up call and realize their hand isn’t gonna be held anymore
I’m not going to even lie I HATE getting yelled at but for the Marines I’ll allow it cus I get to blow shit up after
@@marcuse7261 Just joined the DEP earlier this Monday and I’m real excited because next summer after my last year of high school I can finally be a 0331. I really don’t want them to change the yelling because it may suck it grows character and gives people thick skin, which most people in this generation DESPERATELY need. But hey I’m not gonna complain if they do because like you said, I get to blow shit up for a living.
@@metalimposter Hell yeah! I’m talking with my recruiter about getting the scholarship after my senior year of hs.
@@marcuse7261 Sick man! What do you plan to do after?
@@metalimposter I plan on going to college after HS and joining the infantry as a officer and maybe do recon after.
About to leave this month. Was wanting to go infantry, but decided to take your advice considering I’m a father. Either going MT or looking at Aviation MOS’s which would you choose considering your experience?
The infantry, especially if you want your kid(s) to look up to you
Question Trell, are you only allowed to use military-issued gear in Infantry training?
congrats on 20k man
Going through the new course right now !
Sup Trell, I’m shipping June 7th to bootcamp. I’ve been watch you ever since I enlisted which was June 28 of last year. Thank you for your service, now it is my turn.
how u doing
Are they still going to have specific roles like motor man, rileman, and shit?
Yea only thing they really changing is that you learn more about other jobs and skills that can be used in infantry
I think anybody going to be in a combat zone should have a year of training,
why did your command go after you for this video?
Basically. They’re just doing what the Army has been doing...
How so?
@@abraham8310 the Army has been training their infantrymen to do all of the infantry tasks instead of splitting it up into multiple different MOS’s. There was only infantryman and indirect fire infantryman
Several years back the push was for the "strategic corporal" building leadership downline
So I’m making a lateral move to 0331. Am I going to do the full 14 weeks? Or am I just going to do ITB and basic machine gunners school?
If you’re doing a lat move to 31 you’ll more than likely go through the actual 31 section of ITB again. Like you’ll do the last 4 weeks of specific machine gunner training and not the full 8 week ITB
@@starspangledmanlet6999 my PSR said that I’ll be doing 1 month at ITB and one month at basic machine gunners school. I’ll just have to see when I get there then. Thanks for the feedback.
Watching this makes me miss the Corps
The mission of the Corps is changing. More flexible.
What’s up man I’m leaving for boot camp in 9 days I enlisted for infantry open contact meps screwed up one of my vision tests but I will do it again at boot camp get it fixed thanks for the video man
How is it?
I missed the cut off date to join the corps,but I'm not to late for the army,so I'm gonna join the army,put in my 4 years and decide if I wanna stay in the army or switch over to marine corps and claim both tittles
The new training sounds very similar to Australian Infantry training
What’s Australian infantry training like?
I have a question: Did you do mcmap? (Infantry)
I’m currently in Imc and our instructor teaches and fucks us up at the same time. It’s a learning environment but also pretty hard in terms of knowledge. They want you to think. I’m not capable of that. That’s why I got dropped from 2-tact to 3-tact cause I’m retarded. And might even get reclassed. It’s still physically demanding. Probably more cause we do the capstone at week 14 which is the crucible on steroids.
did u make it?
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We Start The 2nd Cycle on Tuesday
i wish I could enlist now but you know the us ain't about shipping out 15-year-olds
Dont stress bro at least you have your youth. Use this to your advantage and use this extra time you have these next few years plot yourself a concrete plan. Trust me.
Enjoy your life bro... im 20 and time fucking said📈📈📈 i swear bro... time has sped up
Just enjoy your time as a 15 year old. I’m 20 and I’m trying to give you the best advice possible man. After you hit 18 life will start getting way faster, so please for the love of god enjoy the age you’re at right now
@@bandolierboy1908 21.. feel like I’m always running out of time and I’m a disappointment.. been thinking about joining for years.. failed the asvab 3 times
@@noellthomas381 Keep studying
Has anyone heard if this is currently being implemented at North Carolina’s ITB too?
Not yet
Question even tho all infantry marines we learn a bit of all infantry mos will then still be assigned to a certain infantry mos
I dunno...my ssgt and gunny was still calling people bags of bitches during pt when I was poolee. I dont think usmc will stop that, its fundamental to their identity
When are these changes happening
Hey typing this January of 2022,does anyone know if I sign an infantry contract now,will it be the cross trained infantry?so to clarify I mean will it not be specialized but instead be each individual is trained in all the 03xx roles? anyone have updated info on their personal experience in infantry?
Marine MP is a big consideration for me but I don’t know if it will be around in 2022.
It will I plan on doing that mos as well
Do you think we will see combat within the next 5 years?
Depends if China decides to capitalize on Taiwan while Biden is still in office
No
No
@@jacobvanbeek4831 And if Russia takes over Ukraine
@@cappuccinosnephew1382 nah because we’re not fighting armies anymore we’re fighting terrorisim
Can you please do a video what happens after soi school
I’m at MOS school for Arty at fort sill and my buddys at ITB they legit go on some deathly hikes and like 15 k runs with full gear fuck that 🤣🤣
Shipping June 7th can’t wait
Looks like my bo2 dreams are finally coming true lol
The professionalism is the same , guns are the same , same shooting and war táctics , same tanks, same intitutions , same logístic , only less louder and more Technology like drones , ummanned vehicules , more computer etc ...
Some people Will find something to complain and become An anti army anti marine Etc... This is changing because people that use media to make videos complains for everything weak mindset... In the pass marine , army etc all changed Wepaons ,training táctics etc.
Off topic question, when does your contract time start? Does it start at boot camp or after?
It starts the day you arrive at boot camp :)
how do you extend it when it's over
@@ayomrwhiteigotdrip6235 IDRK, talk to your career planner, or sign a reenlistment.
This restructuring of ITB is nothing new for infantry, I always told my Marines we are 03 everything. We train to do our job, comms, admin, motor t, heavy weapons, intel, medical everything. ITB is years behind what should of been taught there but was learned in the fleet. The length of the training only matters if it’s to the fleets expectations if not it’s a waste of time, money and assets.
learn infantry now so then when you go to the fleet u pt there. i got the very first batch of boots that went to imc and their response is that they dont remember... yes they get taught a lot of shit but when you put them through pt they didnt retain jack shit so now you have to figure out wtf they know so you can go through the drills of panic mode knowledge retention.....and they cant even do 35 push ups..... wtf?
Your instructors fight you in the marines?
Are you leaving or renlisting ??
Friend, I'm mainly interested in one topic-Getting out. How does the fellow who has made the worst mistake of his life and feels like that he's in some "Twilight Zone" version of Hell, get out as FAST AS POSSIBLE!?! (I loathed people who use to say, "I'd leave tomorrow-IF I could get a good discharge…" Moron, IF you really want to get out as bad as you want that next breath of air-you DON'T CARE what kind of Discharge you get-not even a LITTLE.) Second, what ingenious methods have you seen used to get out!?!
Were you able to get out?
@@angelicaarroyo7845 Yeah, I have a family tendency toward VERY MORBID ObESITY. I managed to keep it at bay until the military-where, quite frankly, I was too miserable to limit my food intake or to care about my weight. THEN they PUNISHED me for being overweight by putting me on a special diet and restricting me to base and forcing me to do extra exercises. "You WILL lose weight or we'll kick you out!" "Kick me out NOW! Cause if being overweight will get me out. I sure as HELL won't lose weight!" "No, we HAVE to give you a 6-Month "Opportunity" to meet military standards." I don't know if all the deliberate over-eating messed up my Metabolism or if God punished me for the colossal perversion of deliberately trying to be fat-but I never again got my weight under control-and life isn't worth living for a Fat man. No matter what good qualities that you have, a fat man is only good to play life's comedy relief. Went in at 211 and ran 11-miles every day. 10-months later, I weighed 280 and couldn't run a quarter-mile. Never got my weight below 250 again. 40-Years later, I look back nostalgically on how good it felt to be in shape and go on a LONG RUN. The military took that away from me. BIG PS: I got an "Honorable Discharge"-not that it mattered to me even a little.
Is electric maintenence a good mos?
yes, make sure you get the 8k bonus hook up too
Bro is INA328 still working for foreigners to join marine？
Saw myself about 3 times
Me watching this while leaning towards going to the airforce HAHA!
Good choice if you never want to see combat.
@@dancastle3349 True and including everyone else in any other branch until an actual war breakouts lmao