Great video as usual Craig. On behalf of All your viewers I'd like to say Thank You so much for sacrificing yourself in the name of "Research" for us. It's greatly appreciated when you take such sacrifices for us.... to save us the time to do it for ourselves.😁👍 I appreciate this video as I'm currently looking into some form of "Under/Overquilt for Brayden and My Hammocks. Saving space is so important.. Having to come up with two (in a lot of cases) pieces of kit a lot of the time finding ways to use things in a "Non typical" way helps me a lot. I like videos from guys (& girls) who do things on a budget or more frugally than others (who buy whatever kit, at whatever price etc) and I take bits and bobs from this video or that video to come up with ways of making kit that works for both my boy and I. Since Brayden goes out with me most times & is only 12yrs old...I'm responsible for buying most of his kit for him too.. he does do lots to help out at home so he earns his kit in helpful ways to me.. Thanks again for a great video. Cheers 🇨🇦
I have been putting my Kymit half pad inside my sleeping bag. It stays put, but it’s a bit of a trick to get in position as where you want it head and shoulders wise. I also use a silk liner that I slip into then slip into my bag. It has a pillow case build in, so a sweater folded up works great as a pillow.
Hmm thanks Craig, there goes my Sunday. Now I have to dig out my old hennessy hammock, hook it up in the garage and try my swagman roll as an under quilt! I never thought I would get a good nights sleep in it.... we shall see. Great Video 👍
@@TheBushcraftPadawan A little short for the hennessy, it's a bit of a monster. Works well with a DD superlight but cos I am an old fart I had a Klymit Static V on it to.
Something I've been thinking about trying, is to use an oilcloth tarp (diagonally) as the hammock, and a large wool blanket as the underquilt. The blanket might also be wrapped over the top as well. I'm not sure how this would work, but there are multiple use advantages if so. I would have a hammock that could also be used as a tarp, and an underquilt that could also be used as a robe when hiking. However, another lighter weight tarp would be required to protect the hammock sleeper from rain, but at least the extra tarp would also have multiple uses. Just sayin'.
I use a cheapy mossie netted Amazon hammock, great kit, and cheap, has done me 2 yrs, tried a DIY underquilt, was ok, but the snukpak one I have now is awesome, takes hammocking to a whole new level, then I either throw my woobie or swagman roll over as a blanket, or an open winter sleeping bag as a blanket if its cold, toasty. and epicly comfy.
I agree that adding more stuff is bad. IMO the best idea I've seen is to modify a sleeping bag so that the hammock can slide inside and through the sleeping bag; it means a cinchable hole at the foot, and maybe the bag needs to be upside down and some modification done to the "hood" of the bag such as a removable face hole with bug netting or something like that. This idea is still being worked on by one TH-camr, but initial testing was good. 4:17
Good video. I’ve used a closed cell foam pad and Mylar blanket under my sleeping bag in a hammock with good effect. That said, I’ve recently been given an Amok Druamr, which has a pocket for an inflatable pad. This has got to be the most comfortable hammock I’ve ever used.
Nice vid mate. I love hammock camping, prefer it to tenting and i dont do ground sleeping to many rats/mice and other animals can creeep in.. I dont use an under blanket tho i think if you have a decent sleeping bag and wool blanket to put under you your fine..
Hi J&S Outdoors and many thanks for taking the time to drop by my channel, watch and comment, it's really appreciated. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the positive feedback as well as sharing your own practices, cheers! Don't forget to subscribe if you haven't already, I'd really appreciate it, cheers! 👍
Hi Craig, if you use your thermal; "foil lined"; bivvy bag and sleeping bag you don't need an under blanket, the foil lining on your bivvy bag will reflect your body heat, so the only difference between ground dwelling and hammock is you're carrying a hammock instead of a sleeping mat
A bit of material, needle and thread, and you can fasten straps to hold your air mattress in place. Where I cam there usually are no trees, so having an air mattress for the ground is a plus.
Hi Craig, I can't remember the exact details but I seem to recall that alcohol will accelerate the onset of hypothermia. Therefore in order to maximize your temperature Delta in a set amount of time you should repeat your research whilst employing a cold brew. It's purely for science you understand... :) Not being a hammocker (?) myself, what is the size and weight difference between an under vs overquilt? Would an actual underquilt be lighter and smaller than your thermarest? As always, keep up the great work and thanks for sharing!
I’ve never gotten into hammock camping for the simple fact you stated.... it’s a lot of extra gear imo. My neighbor hammock camps and he rips on me for being primitive ground sleeper 😂
i think some shock cord along each side of the blanket maybe threaded through the press stud loops will bring the blanket up and around you. if you loom at the snugpak under blanket set up ull c what i mean.
My hammock guy 'Chris' said exactly the same thing Matthew, it's strange what you miss but is obvious to other people. Thanks for watching and commenting it's really appreciated 👍 If you're not already a subscriber it would be great if you would consider hitting that subscribe button to see more from my channel 😀
Hello pal, thanks for sharing. Regretfully I'm going to sound/may be pompous but it's genuinely distracting for me when you pitched so high, making your structural ridgeline droop which may or may not change your lay. Maybe pedantic, but I'd call this your personal preference over a hack, but for newbies it is rather useful-the first point I made may be confusing for newbies, mind. I'm not sure how your other underquilt experiences went, but mine was similar with the end cords attached to the end of the hammock. Having a DD superlight, I attached my friends DD underquilt To the four outside loops as I believe it's intended but usually I understand they're hung from the structural ridgeline so the sides are proper hugging the user. In the end, it'll work in any way really as long as the middle is loose enough for air to be suspended, not taken away with the breeze but kept to amlify the body's heat like a mattress and duvet. An overquilt is very similar, arguably the same depending on the design, but far easier to use. I suggest you also try wrapping the overquilt over your sleeping mat, that way it'll all be as one :)
Hey, if you can't be pompous and pedantic in TH-cam comments where can you be pompous and pedantic?! 😉 Thanks for dropping by and sharing your own perspective and insights, it's really appreciated, have a great week.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan haha, I suppose so but best be civil and show one isn't trying to be a nob :) thanks for understanding and reassuring :) No problem man, that's the main thing about youtube-like an interactive meet. I've just been to one incidentally last weekend (NEBC), one to remember XD And thank you for sharing your knowledge pal, adding to the almost infinite yt knowledge :D
In desert, i still need an under-quilt It's the easyest way to avoid the CBS. Sure other method exist but for me it's the fastest and easy (leasy?) way. I agree just a poncho as under-quilt to protect from the wind is effective too
@@jean-marcv.19 You've deleted your reference to 'desert' and 'tanks' but my use case *without* an underquilt was in some of the tropical regions of the world.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan in some foreign region, it's very cold in ... desert (not tropical-> dry and cold). i deletes the ref ... because i speak too much
Thanks for the unselfish research. Looking objectively, the over quilt looks great. But why does it need to be under the hammock? Why not using the shock cord have it in the hammock but under you - your sleeping bag? Use it a bit like a bivy bag. Great Video 👍🏻
Hi Michael and thanks for watching. I believe the same problem would occur as it does with a sleeping bag which is that the weight of lying on the material compresses it rendering the insulation almost useless.
That looks like a combined over or underquilr as it can be made flat ie the footbox isn't sewn in . What you need is to run shock cord down both sides possibly thro the tabs of the poppers . Don't gather the ends with its own shock cord keep it as a rectangle so it's wider insulation head and foot. You can then slide the quilt up and down on the shock cord while in the hammock. If you can its worth taking the thermarest as its small because you cannot ground sleep with a underquilr if you cannot string up a hammock ie no trees
A few other commenters have said the same, so I've just got hold of some shock cord and plan to make some mods in the near future/as soon as I'm on my feet. If I know I'm going to hammock then I'm not going to take the Thermarest although I do plan to experiment with a double layer hammock in the future so perhaps the Thermarest may well start to feature in my hammock plans again....
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I've used a double layer for yrs certainly makes it easier o carry 2 sleeping bags (Snugpak SF 1&2 as I still prefer center zip ) one I stuff in as under insulation . Just made a couple of hammocks similar to yours (very easy to do) for the kids so sorting underquilts. Might just make a second layer tho
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I use the DD Frontline XL on its own most of the year but mid-winter put a sleepmat, blanket or old sleeping bag between the layers. Regards JB. ps the main thing is protection from the wind. Set the tarp low and you will have little problem. :)
Hi Chris, many thanks for taking the time to watch and comment it's really appreciated. I suspect the reason that most hammocks don't ship with an attached underquilt is because hammocks originated from regions where the ambient air temperature doesn't require an underquilt to be used.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm trying hard to reduce the length/get to the point quicker in my videos, not sure there's any need to resort to calling it crap though?
Way too much chatter!!!!
Get to the meat faster!
I'm out and about at the moment, but as soon as I get home I'll head over to your channel to see how the professionals do it. 👍
To @robertwritt6146 Maybe stick to tiktok great for short attention syndrome, Your trolling just shows you up to be the narcissist you are.
Great video as usual Craig. On behalf of All your viewers I'd like to say Thank You so much for sacrificing yourself in the name of "Research" for us. It's greatly appreciated when you take such sacrifices for us.... to save us the time to do it for ourselves.😁👍 I appreciate this video as I'm currently looking into some form of "Under/Overquilt for Brayden and My Hammocks. Saving space is so important.. Having to come up with two (in a lot of cases) pieces of kit a lot of the time finding ways to use things in a "Non typical" way helps me a lot. I like videos from guys (& girls) who do things on a budget or more frugally than others (who buy whatever kit, at whatever price etc) and I take bits and bobs from this video or that video to come up with ways of making kit that works for both my boy and I. Since Brayden goes out with me most times & is only 12yrs old...I'm responsible for buying most of his kit for him too.. he does do lots to help out at home so he earns his kit in helpful ways to me.. Thanks again for a great video. Cheers 🇨🇦
I have been putting my Kymit half pad inside my sleeping bag. It stays put, but it’s a bit of a trick to get in position as where you want it head and shoulders wise. I also use a silk liner that I slip into then slip into my bag. It has a pillow case build in, so a sweater folded up works great as a pillow.
Hmm thanks Craig, there goes my Sunday. Now I have to dig out my old hennessy hammock, hook it up in the garage and try my swagman roll as an under quilt!
I never thought I would get a good nights sleep in it.... we shall see.
Great Video 👍
How did you get on with trying to adapt the swagman roll, any joy?
@@TheBushcraftPadawan A little short for the hennessy, it's a bit of a monster. Works well with a DD superlight but cos I am an old fart I had a Klymit Static V on it to.
Something I've been thinking about trying, is to use an oilcloth tarp (diagonally) as the hammock, and a large wool blanket as the underquilt. The blanket might also be wrapped over the top as well. I'm not sure how this would work, but there are multiple use advantages if so. I would have a hammock that could also be used as a tarp, and an underquilt that could also be used as a robe when hiking. However, another lighter weight tarp would be required to protect the hammock sleeper from rain, but at least the extra tarp would also have multiple uses. Just sayin'.
I use a cheapy mossie netted Amazon hammock, great kit, and cheap, has done me 2 yrs, tried a DIY underquilt, was ok, but the snukpak one I have now is awesome, takes hammocking to a whole new level, then I either throw my woobie or swagman roll over as a blanket, or an open winter sleeping bag as a blanket if its cold, toasty. and epicly comfy.
"epicly comfy" - I ♥️ that phrase! 😁
I agree that adding more stuff is bad. IMO the best idea I've seen is to modify a sleeping bag so that the hammock can slide inside and through the sleeping bag; it means a cinchable hole at the foot, and maybe the bag needs to be upside down and some modification done to the "hood" of the bag such as a removable face hole with bug netting or something like that. This idea is still being worked on by one TH-camr, but initial testing was good. 4:17
Good video. I’ve used a closed cell foam pad and Mylar blanket under my sleeping bag in a hammock with good effect. That said, I’ve recently been given an Amok Druamr, which has a pocket for an inflatable pad. This has got to be the most comfortable hammock I’ve ever used.
5:57 For a split second, I thought I was gonna see you getting mauled by a bear.
If I'd had a sandwich in my hand she might well have tried!
I find underquilts so much more comfortable and easier than sleepmats in hammocks. Good improv there!
Nice vid mate. I love hammock camping, prefer it to tenting and i dont do ground sleeping to many rats/mice and other animals can creeep in..
I dont use an under blanket tho i think if you have a decent sleeping bag and wool blanket to put under you your fine..
Hi J&S Outdoors and many thanks for taking the time to drop by my channel, watch and comment, it's really appreciated.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the positive feedback as well as sharing your own practices, cheers!
Don't forget to subscribe if you haven't already, I'd really appreciate it, cheers! 👍
The Bushcraft Padawan I subscribed ages ago mate always watched all your videos. Short and sweet straight to the point bud.
Hi Craig, if you use your thermal; "foil lined"; bivvy bag and sleeping bag you don't need an under blanket, the foil lining on your bivvy bag will reflect your body heat, so the only difference between ground dwelling and hammock is you're carrying a hammock instead of a sleeping mat
A bit of material, needle and thread, and you can fasten straps to hold your air mattress in place.
Where I cam there usually are no trees, so having an air mattress for the ground is a plus.
save your thermorest for ground camping ... maybe small hammock hooks to join the both together would help..i use under quilts ...
billy joe
Hi billy joe denny and many thanks for taking the time to drop by my channel, watch and comment - it's really appreciated.
Hi Craig,
I can't remember the exact details but I seem to recall that alcohol will accelerate the onset of hypothermia. Therefore in order to maximize your temperature Delta in a set amount of time you should repeat your research whilst employing a cold brew. It's purely for science you understand... :)
Not being a hammocker (?) myself, what is the size and weight difference between an under vs overquilt? Would an actual underquilt be lighter and smaller than your thermarest?
As always, keep up the great work and thanks for sharing!
I’ve never gotten into hammock camping for the simple fact you stated.... it’s a lot of extra gear imo. My neighbor hammock camps and he rips on me for being primitive ground sleeper 😂
It's actually about the same weight, but a better nights sleep
i think some shock cord along each side of the blanket maybe threaded through the press stud loops will bring the blanket up and around you. if you loom at the snugpak under blanket set up ull c what i mean.
My hammock guy 'Chris' said exactly the same thing Matthew, it's strange what you miss but is obvious to other people. Thanks for watching and commenting it's really appreciated 👍 If you're not already a subscriber it would be great if you would consider hitting that subscribe button to see more from my channel 😀
Hi Craig! This seems to work pretty fine. But now I am curios if we will see another test night in a hammock (with an under quilt)? ATB André
Hello pal, thanks for sharing. Regretfully I'm going to sound/may be pompous but it's genuinely distracting for me when you pitched so high, making your structural ridgeline droop which may or may not change your lay. Maybe pedantic, but I'd call this your personal preference over a hack, but for newbies it is rather useful-the first point I made may be confusing for newbies, mind. I'm not sure how your other underquilt experiences went, but mine was similar with the end cords attached to the end of the hammock. Having a DD superlight, I attached my friends DD underquilt To the four outside loops as I believe it's intended but usually I understand they're hung from the structural ridgeline so the sides are proper hugging the user. In the end, it'll work in any way really as long as the middle is loose enough for air to be suspended, not taken away with the breeze but kept to amlify the body's heat like a mattress and duvet. An overquilt is very similar, arguably the same depending on the design, but far easier to use. I suggest you also try wrapping the overquilt over your sleeping mat, that way it'll all be as one :)
Hey, if you can't be pompous and pedantic in TH-cam comments where can you be pompous and pedantic?! 😉
Thanks for dropping by and sharing your own perspective and insights, it's really appreciated, have a great week.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan haha, I suppose so but best be civil and show one isn't trying to be a nob :) thanks for understanding and reassuring :)
No problem man, that's the main thing about youtube-like an interactive meet. I've just been to one incidentally last weekend (NEBC), one to remember XD And thank you for sharing your knowledge pal, adding to the almost infinite yt knowledge :D
No mystery, an under-quilt is a top piece of kit for hammocking!
But not always of course, I've spent many a night in a hammock with no underquilt.
In desert, i still need an under-quilt It's the easyest way to avoid the CBS. Sure other method exist but for me it's the fastest and easy (leasy?) way. I agree just a poncho as under-quilt to protect from the wind is effective too
@@jean-marcv.19 You've deleted your reference to 'desert' and 'tanks' but my use case *without* an underquilt was in some of the tropical regions of the world.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan in some foreign region, it's very cold in ... desert (not tropical-> dry and cold). i deletes the ref ... because i speak too much
Thanks for the unselfish research. Looking objectively, the over quilt looks great. But why does it need to be under the hammock? Why not using the shock cord have it in the hammock but under you - your sleeping bag? Use it a bit like a bivy bag.
Great Video 👍🏻
Hi Michael and thanks for watching.
I believe the same problem would occur as it does with a sleeping bag which is that the weight of lying on the material compresses it rendering the insulation almost useless.
That looks like a combined over or underquilr as it can be made flat ie the footbox isn't sewn in . What you need is to run shock cord down both sides possibly thro the tabs of the poppers . Don't gather the ends with its own shock cord keep it as a rectangle so it's wider insulation head and foot. You can then slide the quilt up and down on the shock cord while in the hammock. If you can its worth taking the thermarest as its small because you cannot ground sleep with a underquilr if you cannot string up a hammock ie no trees
A few other commenters have said the same, so I've just got hold of some shock cord and plan to make some mods in the near future/as soon as I'm on my feet. If I know I'm going to hammock then I'm not going to take the Thermarest although I do plan to experiment with a double layer hammock in the future so perhaps the Thermarest may well start to feature in my hammock plans again....
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I've used a double layer for yrs certainly makes it easier o carry 2 sleeping bags (Snugpak SF 1&2 as I still prefer center zip ) one I stuff in as under insulation . Just made a couple of hammocks similar to yours (very easy to do) for the kids so sorting underquilts. Might just make a second layer tho
@@FGYT1 hi, how do you go about making a hammok like this please ?
Your ridgeline looks a little loose
What hammock is that please?
Hi, it's a bespoke parasilk hammock from a cottage industry maker here in the UK.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan do you have a link?
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Put the press studs onto the fixing points along the sides of the hammock I see in the video
+James Swan Thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated 👍
Duel skinned hammock, problem solved. foam mat, air bed etc in the pocket between the layers and it dont move.
Hi Jim, it's funny you should mention that as I've just messaged my 'hammock guy' and that's one of the things I've suggested. Good plan my friend!
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I use the DD Frontline XL on its own most of the year but mid-winter put a sleepmat, blanket or old sleeping bag between the layers. Regards JB. ps the main thing is protection from the wind. Set the tarp low and you will have little problem. :)
Why don't they sell them permanently attached ?
Hi Chris, many thanks for taking the time to watch and comment it's really appreciated.
I suspect the reason that most hammocks don't ship with an attached underquilt is because hammocks originated from regions where the ambient air temperature doesn't require an underquilt to be used.
Not needed in summer.
@@eastsaxon67 yes but a winter one would sell
What have I just watched. Face palm.
Thanks for the feedback.
Once I've got some spare time later today, I'll head over to your channel so I can see how the professionals do it 👍
Almost 12 minutes into this video half the video before you get to the reason we clicked on the video crap!!! 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Thanks for the feedback. I'm trying hard to reduce the length/get to the point quicker in my videos, not sure there's any need to resort to calling it crap though?
How is this video nearly 25 minutes long? Stop talking
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Have s great weekend.
Your ridgeline is too loose. It's not doing anything
Yeah, I've upped my hammock tensioning game since then Michael, thanks for pouting it out in a constructive manner 👍