Is it posible to use a winter underquilt in summer if i have a thin or no over quilt? I would like to have one for whole year, and some say you can with the underquilt if you just vent it a bit.
I started sleeping in a hammock last year. I slept out in it at 40 and I was very warm. I had an under quilt, sleep pad and a 0 degree sleeping bag open like a top quilt. I want to sleep in colder weather little by little. Your information is excellent. Thanks
I use a sleeping bag as a underblanket and use a old navy pure wool blanket for inside the hammock cover with a nice soft fleece blanket and its so warm in any weather I'm in East Scotland and not had a cold night yet wool is awesome
Those down quilts are available at our Costco in single units right now for about $22, so most probably have them. They probably won’t hang around long. Bought one.
@@TheRealJaded Back at work on my first 10 minute break unfortunately still slaving my ass away However I did get a chance to go to Hinckley lake I did a 10 mile loop there then roll my bike up to Finley lake did the 10 Mile mountain bike loop there and then back home so I'm going to say approximately in 12 days that I was off work I did approximately 400 miles not too shabby like I said only approximately Can't forget going down to Cuyahoga valley before Hinckley lake
I've just got into hammocking myself (to complement my Bushcraft activities) and am currently experimenting with modifying an OQ I was gifted into an UQ, you've given me some great ideas in this video so you've earned yourself another sub. 👍
Hey Jason, new to hammocking, I purchased a hammock with an underquilt. Would I be ok just sleeping in my skivvies and wool t shirt inside a down sleeping bag? (summertime camping)
Question: you said add 20* to the top quilt rating. What about an UQ, how degrees do you add to get the limit when the temperatures are high. What is the temperature range for a 20* UQ? Thanks all this info is soooo useful.
I love my under quilt, but I plan on using a pad with the hammock on my thru hike. I know I will be in the shelters some or on the ground with my tarp and want the flexibility.
Great series. I'm all on board with what I need now but I watch anyway. I do have some advice for top layers. If your using more than one layer in a hammock it can be a real pain in the butt. If you have two "slick" covers they will just slide right off of you. It happened to me using a Costco quilt and a military poncho liner. If you have quilts with foot boxes that might work but I dunno. Just beware is doesnt work. It was very frustrating.
I prob go more in sub 0F than other temps. As a result, I use the pad in hammock setup. Because it works and is the smallest pack size & weight. Underquilt and overwuilt are great for 20sF. Lower temps and it's just not enough and need the pad. I like the rectangular pad in hammock.
Great video. I will be checking out the entire series. I am new to hammock tents. I used one for the first time this year as I have returned to back country camping. My first trip saw temps down to mid 30s. I had a light weight 3 season bag (more like 1 season) and needless to say I froze. I am not new to back country camping and long used sleeping pads under my bag in traditional tents. But I hadn't even thought about it for my new hammock tent. Man its like sleeping in a refrigerator with cold air under you which I am not used to at all. So I just discovered that they have the hammock answer in under quilts and will be adding that to my list of necessities.
Have you ever tried a reflective emergency blanket / gold foil in 45-50 deg. weather instead of added (weight) fabric of a double layer hammock and sleeping pad...or trickier underquilt setup that's useless if sleeping on a shelter floor?
Best trick is to put a couple golf ball sized rocks in a fire for about 30 minutes. Then put them into a old sock, and lay on top of your core at night. Super warm. Do not put directly onto skin.. saved my life in the bwca
What's funny is where I live it's almost a guaranteed to get down to the 20s at night in the middle of the summer. So I always have used a 15 degree bag in the summer and just snuggled with my dog in the fall. I would love a hammock but 0-15 degree quilts seem heavy and not worth the weight.
I'm a big fan of sleeping in a bag liner. You can get a bag liner made for a sleeping bag. It adds a couple of degrees of warmth without the expense of another quilt. By sleeping in the bag liner, you reduce the hiker funk that gets on your quilts so you don't have to wash them as often. In the summer time, I use the Costco quilts. The underquilt stays vented usually and I just sleep in the bag liner in the hammock. I take the top quilt with me just in case. Thanks again for the video!
For folks looking into upgrading their equipment there are a number of options out there that can provide a resource to save a little cash. Hammock Gear's Econ line is a great set of products at very, very competitive prices compared to the goose down products on the market. One outlet I have been able to find some really good deals on is Massdrop. They have a drop for the ULA Ohm 2.0 right now for under $200, and it is breaking my heart that I don't have the cash right now to take advantage. They have also done drops for Enlightened Equipment and many other cottage vendors. Just a suggestion. It's definitely worth checking out even if you don't ultimately buy anything.
My recent trip to RRG while camping at Hanson's Point we did notice a group that didn't seem to have insulation and had interesting tarp setups not sure if they ever stayed dry that night. Another great video look forward to the next.
Still haven't been converted to hammock camping but watch because my boyfriend is still new to it. He won his hammock at a hammockhang that we went to check out. He moved out of the tent that night as the organizer lent him an underquilt and because we only had one tree at our tent site they attached the other end to the roof rack on my Escape and refuses to come back. Without having the money for an underquilt he just slit the end of his mummy bag and concoons himself. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
I have always told new hangers they need to test their gear under controlled conditions ( like your backyard ) to make sure your gear performs as needed. Reflectix is a vapor barrier and works ok under you, If used as a blanket it will trap moisture from your body and you can get wet. I prefer to use a 3/4 length UQ and if it is going to be cold, I just throw my jacket down to the foot end of the hammock and rest my feet on that for insulation.
I think they cause too much condensation. I've personally used a dutchware sock on one and only 1 trip. Now it sits collecting dust. My suggestion is spend the money on an underquilt protector to cut the wind out.
Nice quilt collection! I've seen a lot of people not using underquilts up in my area. I'm not sure if they had a sleeping pad or not. If not most summer nights do get a little cold in the U.P. Happy Thanksgiving!
I don't have the money for an underquilt, but i have 2 sleeping pads, one is a therm-a-rest zlite the other is a noname brand which is 10cm thick inflatable with an R value of 7. I stack those together and I'm fine.
Great video. Know of any good asym underquilts? I have a Hennessy asym hammock that I just bought to get into hammock camping. My sleeping pad sucks for the reasons you explained. It shifts around everywhere. Thanks
Thanks wish you would do an update on the temperature rating on quilts. Feel it's super important subject and big investment. If you could choose three temperature rating what would they be and best company.....
@@FrozensAdventures great! Just purchased new Hammock gear quilts. They seem to be the most reasonably priced and having owned a 40degree quilt it's holding up very well. So from doing an overview 40, 20, and zero degree temp rated quilts are the most used in the camping and back packing world. Thanks so much for your videos and encouragement. Getting away from other responsibilities seems to be the most daunting. It was so easy when we were kids now setting time aside for yourself is like a selfish act of treason....lol
Is there any benefit to using a pad WITH an underquilt? Everything I've heard/seen seems like people only use one or the other based on their personal preference.
I tried that one night when the snow was making the second it hit the ground. I could not get it to vent good enough and got soaked from condensation. I haven't tried it since then
Your hammock camping series has really intrigued me and I have been doing some other research. I found a cottage company in PA named Hemlock Mountain Outdoors and they have some nice looking setups at a reasonable price. The owner also has another TH-cam site called Kurt Zitzelman Outdoors and he does some hiking on the same trails that you do. Hope you are doing well
@@FrozensAdventures Good Morning well I have slept in my new hammock 3 times now, once with a pad and twice with a Costco Quilt which I am in the process of customizing. I rigged some suspension and it worked very well had it down to 40* and only had one cold spot near morning, actually 5:00 AM. I was in the backyard so I bailed out instead of working around it. Now I am researching a full length underquilt, probably 20*. Any thoughts on a reasonable underquilt my top quilt is a 20* EE Revelation. I have been looking at the Hammock Gear Economy Incubator but it only has 800 fill. Thanks again for all of you help. I actually plugged your channel on and unboxing I did for my unboxing of the hammock system.
+Outdoor Adventures furnace is more the word haha. I'll get chilled in the 40s if the my spot sucks and the wind is moving. I typically use a 30 revelation and when it gets in the 30s, rig that as my underquilt n use a 0 rev for my top
Outdoor Adventures I'll keep that in mind and pass it along! I'm getting back into camping and climbing finally after 12 years of working. You turned me on to hammocks,I am totally stoked! Hammock camping solves a lot of problems. I'm actually going to buy a Hennessy expedition ,I have watched you go through several brands and this one seems to be a go. Price and it's a package deal. Your SHT video got me hooked and I even called and talked to Bob ,the guy who gave you a ride. The most important question is,where can I park my vehicle long term in order to hike? Thanks Frozen!
I finally understand top and under quilts now! I just always thought it was a gimmicky extra.
Is it posible to use a winter underquilt in summer if i have a thin or no over quilt? I would like to have one for whole year, and some say you can with the underquilt if you just vent it a bit.
Yes you just leave it vented and shock cord loose.
@@FrozensAdventures thx for anwser.
I started sleeping in a hammock last year. I slept out in it at 40 and I was very warm. I had an under quilt, sleep pad and a 0 degree sleeping bag open like a top quilt. I want to sleep in colder weather little by little. Your information is excellent. Thanks
Great video. I'm up in Butler and go to Minister Creek regularly up in ANF. Came across your video while looking to upgrade gear. Thanks for the info.
I use a sleeping bag as a underblanket and use a old navy pure wool blanket for inside the hammock cover with a nice soft fleece blanket and its so warm in any weather I'm in East Scotland and not had a cold night yet wool is awesome
Those down quilts are available at our Costco in single units right now for about $22, so most probably have them. They probably won’t hang around long. Bought one.
I have an hour and 20 minutes left of work as always thumbs up later on dude so I will be watching this when I get home
Still slaving your life away for fiat?
@@TheRealJaded
Back at work on my first 10 minute break unfortunately still slaving my ass away
However I did get a chance to go to Hinckley lake I did a 10 mile loop there then roll my bike up to Finley lake did the 10 Mile mountain bike loop there and then back home so I'm going to say approximately in 12 days that I was off work I did approximately 400 miles not too shabby like I said only approximately
Can't forget going down to Cuyahoga valley before Hinckley lake
I've just got into hammocking myself (to complement my Bushcraft activities) and am currently experimenting with modifying an OQ I was gifted into an UQ, you've given me some great ideas in this video so you've earned yourself another sub. 👍
Whuts the best type of installation as in down or wool or cotton or synthetic type?
Hey Jason, new to hammocking, I purchased a hammock with an underquilt. Would I be ok just sleeping in my skivvies and wool t shirt inside a down sleeping bag? (summertime camping)
Should be but depends how you sleep. Hot or cold.
Question: you said add 20* to the top quilt rating. What about an UQ, how degrees do you add to get the limit when the temperatures are high. What is the temperature range for a 20* UQ? Thanks all this info is soooo useful.
I love my under quilt, but I plan on using a pad with the hammock on my thru hike. I know I will be in the shelters some or on the ground with my tarp and want the flexibility.
Great series. I'm all on board with what I need now but I watch anyway. I do have some advice for top layers. If your using more than one layer in a hammock it can be a real pain in the butt. If you have two "slick" covers they will just slide right off of you. It happened to me using a Costco quilt and a military poncho liner. If you have quilts with foot boxes that might work but I dunno. Just beware is doesnt work. It was very frustrating.
I live like 20 mins from Pittsburgh we should hike out sometime
I prefer hiking alone sorry man.
Can anyone tell me the main issues/problems with underquilts?
Learning to adjust them is always the issue. It takes practice for sure.
Yeah for Florida I use a 50 degree under quilt and most of the time I don't even need a top quilt.
I have been looking into getting a 0 degree UQ. If you say you're not using yours much may I remind you that my birthday is next month :)
Lol
What overquilt with footbox was that shown at the beginning?
That's a Hammock Gear top quilt. www.hammockgear.com
I prob go more in sub 0F than other temps. As a result, I use the pad in hammock setup. Because it works and is the smallest pack size & weight. Underquilt and overwuilt are great for 20sF. Lower temps and it's just not enough and need the pad. I like the rectangular pad in hammock.
Happy T day bud. This morning would be the freaking test in a hammock lmao
Yeah it's 21F here
Can I use a single underquilt on a double hammock? Sorry if it is a dumb question
Yes you can but you may need/want a wide underquilt.
@@FrozensAdventures thanks for the reply. I looked up a double underquilt and the thing looks SO huge!
Great video. I will be checking out the entire series. I am new to hammock tents. I used one for the first time this year as I have returned to back country camping. My first trip saw temps down to mid 30s. I had a light weight 3 season bag (more like 1 season) and needless to say I froze. I am not new to back country camping and long used sleeping pads under my bag in traditional tents. But I hadn't even thought about it for my new hammock tent. Man its like sleeping in a refrigerator with cold air under you which I am not used to at all. So I just discovered that they have the hammock answer in under quilts and will be adding that to my list of necessities.
Have you ever tried a reflective emergency blanket / gold foil in 45-50 deg. weather instead of added (weight) fabric of a double layer hammock and sleeping pad...or trickier underquilt setup that's useless if sleeping on a shelter floor?
Best trick is to put a couple golf ball sized rocks in a fire for about 30 minutes. Then put them into a old sock, and lay on top of your core at night. Super warm. Do not put directly onto skin.. saved my life in the bwca
Wish people would explain how to measure the 30 degree angle thing (i am so clueless about hammocks)
What's funny is where I live it's almost a guaranteed to get down to the 20s at night in the middle of the summer. So I always have used a 15 degree bag in the summer and just snuggled with my dog in the fall. I would love a hammock but 0-15 degree quilts seem heavy and not worth the weight.
I'm a big fan of sleeping in a bag liner. You can get a bag liner made for a sleeping bag. It adds a couple of degrees of warmth without the expense of another quilt. By sleeping in the bag liner, you reduce the hiker funk that gets on your quilts so you don't have to wash them as often. In the summer time, I use the Costco quilts. The underquilt stays vented usually and I just sleep in the bag liner in the hammock. I take the top quilt with me just in case. Thanks again for the video!
For folks looking into upgrading their equipment there are a number of options out there that can provide a resource to save a little cash. Hammock Gear's Econ line is a great set of products at very, very competitive prices compared to the goose down products on the market. One outlet I have been able to find some really good deals on is Massdrop. They have a drop for the ULA Ohm 2.0 right now for under $200, and it is breaking my heart that I don't have the cash right now to take advantage. They have also done drops for Enlightened Equipment and many other cottage vendors. Just a suggestion. It's definitely worth checking out even if you don't ultimately buy anything.
My recent trip to RRG while camping at Hanson's Point we did notice a group that didn't seem to have insulation and had interesting tarp setups not sure if they ever stayed dry that night. Another great video look forward to the next.
Still haven't been converted to hammock camping but watch because my boyfriend is still new to it. He won his hammock at a hammockhang that we went to check out. He moved out of the tent that night as the organizer lent him an underquilt and because we only had one tree at our tent site they attached the other end to the roof rack on my Escape and refuses to come back. Without having the money for an underquilt he just slit the end of his mummy bag and concoons himself. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
I have always told new hangers they need to test their gear under controlled conditions ( like your backyard ) to make sure your gear performs as needed. Reflectix is a vapor barrier and works ok under you, If used as a blanket it will trap moisture from your body and you can get wet. I prefer to use a 3/4 length UQ and if it is going to be cold, I just throw my jacket down to the foot end of the hammock and rest my feet on that for insulation.
Thanks for the vid. I’ve also been toasty in the teens by using a 3/4 length HG Phoenix 40 inside a HG Incubator 20!
I'd rather be told I'm going to be cold than some guy assuming I know everything under the sun. Guess I'll keep all my pearls to myself too.
You're going to be cold. Would you like to be warm, give this video a try. Not sure I want your pearls?
What is your opinion on overcovers?
I think they cause too much condensation. I've personally used a dutchware sock on one and only 1 trip. Now it sits collecting dust. My suggestion is spend the money on an underquilt protector to cut the wind out.
@@FrozensAdventures thanks for the reply. You’ve confirmed my suspicion.
2:49 I made that same mistake...
Now I’m watching this video 😅✌🏻
What would you recommend for a hennessy hammock asym ?
Nice quilt collection! I've seen a lot of people not using underquilts up in my area. I'm not sure if they had a sleeping pad or not. If not most summer nights do get a little cold in the U.P. Happy Thanksgiving!
You too dude
I don't have the money for an underquilt, but i have 2 sleeping pads, one is a therm-a-rest zlite the other is a noname brand which is 10cm thick inflatable with an R value of 7. I stack those together and I'm fine.
Do what you can, just enjoy
@@FrozensAdventures I came back, a bit more experienced. i made an underquilt from an old sleeping bag and put the thermarest in it.
Great series! Looking forward to the next video
Great video. Know of any good asym underquilts? I have a Hennessy asym hammock that I just bought to get into hammock camping. My sleeping pad sucks for the reasons you explained. It shifts around everywhere. Thanks
@@Luke-eg1gn thanks!
Thanks wish you would do an update on the temperature rating on quilts. Feel it's super important subject and big investment. If you could choose three temperature rating what would they be and best company.....
The series is getting a refresh soon. I'm working out the line items.
@@FrozensAdventures great! Just purchased new Hammock gear quilts. They seem to be the most reasonably priced and having owned a 40degree quilt it's holding up very well. So from doing an overview 40, 20, and zero degree temp rated quilts are the most used in the camping and back packing world. Thanks so much for your videos and encouragement. Getting away from other responsibilities seems to be the most daunting. It was so easy when we were kids now setting time aside for yourself is like a selfish act of treason....lol
I'm a big fan of hammock gear stuff. At least the quality from a couple years ago. Can't comment on any recent stuff.
Is there any benefit to using a pad WITH an underquilt? Everything I've heard/seen seems like people only use one or the other based on their personal preference.
It could be a bit warmer both, but other than that it will just be less comfortable.
@@FrozensAdventures thank you. Just purchased my underquilt. Your channel has been super helpful.
Can you use a singlenest under quilt for a doublenest hammock if your sleeping alone?
Yes but if you haven't bought that underquilt. Check out UGQ, hammock free and enlightened equipment. Far better and cheaper manufacturers than ENO
What about the peapod method? Diagonal lay isn't an option, but it wouldn't be if you're using a sleeping pad either.
I tried that one night when the snow was making the second it hit the ground. I could not get it to vent good enough and got soaked from condensation. I haven't tried it since then
In a pinch, can I use my UGQ top quilt as an underquilt in the summer?
Probably with some line and shock cord.
This is the best channel I’ve found for hammock instructions!
Check out Shug Emery's channel as well. He's where all of us got the info originally.
Yeah but you sir are great!!
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You win!
@@FrozensAdventures 😂😂😜
Can you just use an old sleeping bag as an Under quilt
Yes you can just gotta find a way to tighten things up around you.
How do you prevent mud and rain splatter from get on your under quilt?
Gotta pitch your tarp a little wide. Or they make a product that hangs under your UQ called an UQ protector.
Sup man. Where is that winter shot in the vid? Is that the ANF?
Yes it's the tracery ridge area near the reservoir.
Your hammock camping series has really intrigued me and I have been doing some other research. I found a cottage company in PA named Hemlock Mountain Outdoors and they have some nice looking setups at a reasonable price. The owner also has another TH-cam site called Kurt Zitzelman Outdoors and he does some hiking on the same trails that you do. Hope you are doing well
That is awesome!
@@FrozensAdventures Good Morning well I have slept in my new hammock 3 times now, once with a pad and twice with a Costco Quilt which I am in the process of customizing. I rigged some suspension and it worked very well had it down to 40* and only had one cold spot near morning, actually 5:00 AM. I was in the backyard so I bailed out instead of working around it. Now I am researching a full length underquilt, probably 20*. Any thoughts on a reasonable underquilt my top quilt is a 20* EE Revelation. I have been looking at the Hammock Gear Economy Incubator but it only has 800 fill. Thanks again for all of you help. I actually plugged your channel on and unboxing I did for my unboxing of the hammock system.
I love my hammock gear under quilt. On the cheap you can also make one from a poncho liner.
I don't use an underquilt until low 40s/high 30s. my wife, on the other hand, uses one in the summer, nuts
No pad either? That's crazy you must be a really warm sleeper.
+Outdoor Adventures furnace is more the word haha. I'll get chilled in the 40s if the my spot sucks and the wind is moving. I typically use a 30 revelation and when it gets in the 30s, rig that as my underquilt n use a 0 rev for my top
I looked up Reflectix,$90 a roll,I realized I had about $2k worth of the stuff. A friend gave me many rolls of the stuff.
Also car windshield screen at the dollar store
Outdoor Adventures I'll keep that in mind and pass it along!
I'm getting back into camping and climbing finally after 12 years of working. You turned me on to hammocks,I am totally stoked! Hammock camping solves a lot of problems.
I'm actually going to buy a Hennessy expedition ,I have watched you go through several brands and this one seems to be a go. Price and it's a package deal.
Your SHT video got me hooked and I even called and talked to Bob ,the guy who gave you a ride.
The most important question is,where can I park my vehicle long term in order to hike?
Thanks Frozen!
Forgot,Go Penguins!
Minnesotan here by the way!
I know that feeling .being in post frame construction
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