The First 7 Tools Needed to Start Watch Repair.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2022
- In this episode, we start with the basics’ of watch repair. The 7 tools needed to start watch repair.
When you are starting out learning watch repair, you can get overwhelmed by all the tools and options available. What do you buy, what do you need right now. You definitely don’t need to spend a lot of money on an interest or hobby right off the bat and you don’t need to buy everything at once. By concentrating on just the basic watch repair tools needed to start learning watch repair with, you can see what works for you without breaking the budget.
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1st SEVEN WATCHMAKING TOOLS
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► Bergeon Screwdrivers watchrepairtutorials.com/get/... (Amazon)
► Dumont Anti-Magnetic Tweezers Style 3c watchrepairtutorials.com/get/... (Amazon)
► Dumont Style 1AM Brass Tweezers watchrepairtutorials.com/get/... (Amazon)
► Screwdriver Sharpening Holder watchrepairtutorials.com/get/... (Amazon)
► Sharpening Stone watchrepairtutorials.com/get/... (Amazon)
► Eye Loupe watchrepairtutorials.com/get/... (Amazon)
► Parts Holder watchrepairtutorials.com/get/... (Amazon)
► Movement Holder watchrepairtutorials.com/get/... (Amazon)
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For small parts when im taking things apart, i like to use the inexpensive 7 day pill containers like the kind you can get at your local pharmacy. Great to help keep me organized as to order of assembly. put key parts in mon-sun and work in reverse sun-mon. Keeps me organized and most small parts are easily seen and grabbed. cheap and effective for me.
Great tip! Whatever keeps you organized.
“Parts launching off into the millenium” was great! 😂😂😂
Here from your Reddit. Good tips for the beginner there. Especially with screwdrivers you can always buy a cheap set and replace the crappy tips with Bergeon tips. I think Cousins UK sell a set that will do that. Look forward to the next video!
Thanks man. The next will be out Wednesday
"Now, it really doesn't f*n matter ..." I'm dying :D
Same. Caught me off guard!
You sir, are a true genius of your craft. Thanks so much for the time and effort you put in making these awesome videos!
Thank you very much Paco
I'm new, don't know much, but I like your presentation and style, please keep it up. Thanks!
awesome. Keep watching
Great information for beginners. Thanks for the upload!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the video! I’ll watch the next videos for sure!
Thank you Alexandre.
Mr. Hamilton - thank you!! Thank you for doing this series!!! How I so wish I'd have gotten into this 20+ years ago. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you passing on your knowledge and wisdom!
Welcome sound mind. Hope to see you again.
@@watchrepairtutorials 100%. I'm working through the series ☺️
Excellent video. The best on you tube.
I wish I would have seen you video years ago.
Thank you.
Very well done
Thanks John,
I hope you join use for more. I hope they have gotten a little better since that video. 😄
I am fascinated with automatic watches and really appreciate the video. Really good info. Subscribed and looking forward to seeing more! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thank you my friend. You can start with the basic playlist and work through those. That should keep you busy for awhile
Just want to say thank you for this tutorial series, the info here has helped me understand the things that I couldn't grasp from reading 3-4 different horology books!
Useful video 😀
Awesome info, thanks. Can't wait to see more.
I got you. Thanks for the support
THANKS
Wonderfully clear and professionel!
Well, you’re being supper kind. My first video. Thanks brother
I'm glad I found you Bro! I have an interest in watch/movement repair. This auto mechanic is retiring, so I actually want to do this. Just like any mechanic worth his salt I have been stuck on tool types and maintenance of the tools. This is so COOL!!!
Welcome aboard. I would encourage you to check out my website and go to the beginners section and just work your through the lessons 1 by 1 with a ST36 movement
This is really incredible
You're being too kind but thanks fireball.
Nicely explained Alex thank you, looking forward to following you along cheers
Thanks for watching a really bad video. They will get better. Be ready for a couple F Bombs in the first 3 or 4 videos' but after that i start smoothing thins out
Good video Alex!
Thank you Sir
Great content, thank you!
You’re being kind. 2 nd video made.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Thank you for this. I have collected skills all my life and I have found that when I start off inexpensively, I can ease into the hobby with a sense of optimistic possibility. When I go the route of advice that "more expensive is better" I feel intimidated and never get past compiling a list of expenses.
I have always wanted to repair watches and understand how they work since I was a small child and took apart a broken watch my aunt was holding onto. (She was not pleased with the pile of parts which was the result of my curiosity.)
Now, you present me with a pathway forward. I can afford the starting tools outlined and will follow your channel for whatever guidance you decide to share for the novices like me. 🙂
Welcome it’s great to have you. These basic tools were selected on the principle that you would be working on an ST 36. Movement to learn on. It’s all you need at this point. the first skills to learn are properly sizing the screwdriver blades to the screws so they’re not broken or damaged and by properly dressing your tweezers, this will help you to be able to pick up the small parts and hopefully prevent you from losing them. Make no mistake as you go through the playlist, you’ll start adding a tool here and there some and inexpensive and some expensive.
Thanks for sitting through this horrible video quality and just be assured, I think they get better .
Alex
Good info, agree with you on pretty much everything. It's good to get into habit of maintaining your tools as soon as possible, you'll soon break the bank if you keep buying new tweezers or screwdriver blades when the tips get slightly worn, like some people getting into hobby do. And those screwdriver blades especially are not always so great straight from the factory either.
Brass tweezers are really great for general use, much harder to damage parts' finish with those. I use them for almost everything, apart from stuff like hairspring work. Nickel tweezers are also another similar option, some people prefer them.
Looking forward to the next video!
Thank you Pauli, sounds like you get it.
The only experience I have with watch repair and cleaning is watching videos like yours. I went thru all the comments and no one asked why you didn't include a caseback opener, so I'm asking.
Great question,
I believe that in order to begin to start troubleshooting and fixing watch’s you first have to know what things look like when everything is working properly.
I recommend starting with a new ST36 movement so therefore a case knife is not needed.
Thank you for posting this sir! Subbed
Thanks for the sub!
I promise the videos will get better that was actually the first one I did. probably should go ahead and remake it.
If your checking the comments people. I just have this to say. Watch all the videos it will make you so much better
I hope to replace this video relatively soon as it is in was the first and is pretty bad quality, so thanks for sticking in there if you see this one first
thank you
You are most welcome 👍
I haven't heard anyone else properly explain the types of tweezers. Thanks!
Oh wow, the first video I made.
I use a large 7 day pill reminder box to keep parts in.
That works. There are all type of parts containers you can use.
Thanks!
I appreciate the support. Please tell me this is not the only video of mine you have watched.
Someone may have already said this but you can buy cheapo screwdrivers with replaceable blades, then buy Bergeon replacement blades for pretty cheap!
The quality of the metal is actually not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that in cheaper screwdrivers the holes aren’t necessarily centered and there’s too much slop in the hole so the blade doesn’t sit right.
Are use beryllium blades that are softer than the cheapest Chinese steel and they work fine as long as you don’t have to put too much torque on the screw. It’s way more important that the shaft of the screwdriver blade is straight.
Alex,Happy Christmas and Happy Holidays,Itzhac
Thank you my friend. I hope you have a peaceful Merry Christmas.
Alex
Found your reddit post! I'm wanting to try my hand out in repairing a few cheapo watches I have and this is super helpful. One thing I would recommend though is putting some links in your descriptions to the tools you use. :)
I will when I can. Thanks
Hey Alex! Great video! I would really love if you made a video on/talked about how and where to by a good starting movement or pocket watch to get into the hobby. I am a complete novice and I've been having a lot of trouble trying to find the right vintage pocket watch movement to buy on eBay because they're either way to expensive or have missing parts. Thank you again for all your great work!
Hey Daniel,
I’m working right now on a two part series on buying watches for repair and sourcing parts.
@@watchrepairtutorials Thanks!
I have been impressed with the ease that experienced watchmakers here on TH-cam manage to handle parts with their tweezers. For me, it has been a struggle....and lost parts.
That is, until I purchased a set of Dumont #5 Oblique tweezers. The difference was like night & day.
There is something about these tweezers that allows me to handle even to smallest parts with ease and confidence, a feeling that I have not experienced with any of my other tweezers and I have several Bergeons, Horotecs, and Peers. I like the oblique shape because it is the best of both worlds, straight and curved. I find myself using these in both the upright and the upside down positions and that depends on what I am picking up and where it is going to be set down. I found these tweezers to be versatile and almost like an extension of my hand.
Everyone has one pair that they are most comfortable with. These are now mine. I am debating whether I should buy a pair of straight tweezers by Dumont but the obliques handle just about every job.
Here is a pair of tweezers that I brought into my set of watch tools. These WIHA tweezers came out of my electronics tool chest and I have found them to be very useful. They are great for holding and positioning anything round and tubular and are perfect for handling spring bars.They are Wiha #44530.
carbideprocessors.com/esd-tweezers-flat-bent-35deg-2mm-diameter-grip-radius-wiha-44530/
I agree. You will usually find a pair that you feel most comfortable with and that become “The One”
Thank you for your lessons. I am new to this hobby. My screwdriver tips are brittle and they have chipped off. Do I have to heat treat them before using?
Screwdriver tips will break. Video 2 shows how to sharpen them. Welcome
Any recommended shops to or not buy from?
For material supplies Esslinger is hard to beat in the US and Cousins in 🇬🇧
Hi Alex. Thank you VERY much for this video series. I have been a watch collector for a long time and even though I have attempted a few small repairs I am as green as they get. I have been wanting to learn more and be able to service my collection but honestly, I didn't think I would be able to do it. I have been working my way though your video's (up to lesson #7 now) and you are a great teacher. I think I am going to take the plunge and try to fix some old, non working, movements. Fortunately, I build scale models so I already have some of the tools you have outlined. I deal with small parts often but nothing as small as watch parts so I think one of my first investments will be an inexpensive microscope so I can at leas see what I'm working on. Any suggestions? I have other questions but I will ask them within the specific video's. I recently lost my dad and I have a couple of his watches that need to be fixed so hopefully I will be able to gain the experience I need to work on those as well. Thanks again for this, as far as I can tell, this video series really clicks with me and I appreciate your time and the knowledge your sharing. Have A great day. -David
My only suggestion would be to get a ST36 to learn on before trying to service your personal watches.
My philosophy is “you have to know what’s right before you can see what’s wrong.
@@watchrepairtutorials Understood, thank you.
Hey Alex. I am Alex also. Im a very beginner watch repair person and only had an ifixit kit this far and I see I need some better tools for sure
Hey Alex,
That’s ok. With your basic tools you can learn and complete a quality service. Information is everything. Someone with basic tools and the knowledge can performs better service than someone with thousands of dollars worth of tools and no knowledge.
Keep learning my friend.
I just stumbled on this channel. At last I have the knowledge source to begin servicing my watches at home. For many years I was content to use local watch makers. But with passing years, watch makers have become few and far between. Covid seems to have encouraged a fair bit of greedflation among those remaining. In any case, the only way left to service my watches is to do it myself.
I have collected most of the tools. I just need to get some lubricants - very pricey!
My first project will be an old family heirloom - an Elgin Hunter 6s, model 175, from 1896-8. I bought an identical movement off eBay for a very reasonable price. I am going to use it for practice before attempting the actual restoration. With a bit of luck and a lot of care, I think I can do it. The parts are still available for reasonable prices. The $500 I was quoted for an overhaul is better-off in my pocket.
I hope to progress to servicing my Rolex Oyster that has a 1560 movement. We will see how it goes.
Look at the lubricants as tools. They will last you a lifetime.
@@watchrepairtutorials Have any thoughts about the Seiko lubricants - S3, S4 and S6? Is Molykote DX a substitute?
@@SuperFlatrock Not really because I am not going to have an entire set of lubricants for 1 brand.
I'm just starting the journey into modding, and I found this video series to be the most informative. I'm thinking of getting reverse tweezers with anti-static plastic tips. The tips won't need any maintenance, just replacement, and being reverse tweezers don't require consistent application of pressure. Any opinion on that?
My opinion is that it a horrible idea.
Your tweezers are an extension of your fingers, and for them to be effective, you have to be able to feel what you are doing.
Secondly to be able to pick up small parts the tweezers have to be super sharp.
You’ll never find plastic tips sharpen enough for that.
And Finally, if you want to lose a small part quickly, put it in a pair of tweezers with too much pressure holding it and see how far it launches it across the room.
@@watchrepairtutorials makes sense. Thank you so much for your reply and insight. Your videos help a lot.
As someone who is in the process of acquiring tools, I have to take exception to this list. None of these tools will be useful if you can't get the watch back off. You need at least a case knife, and perhaps the Bergeon 8 ball for screw-on cases. Also needed is a watch bracelet removal tool. I think the sharpening set can be left to later, as a new set of screwdrivers should be good for some time.
Hi Jim,
You must be under the impression that buying a used watch, in a case, is the best way to learn how to service a watch. That's not how it it is taught in school. Before you can even begin to troubleshoot or repair a mechanical watch movement you first have to be able to dismantle, clean and properly lubricate a movement so that it amplitude and rate is as good or better than before you took it apart.
This list is made under the assumption that you would be learning on a new movement. No case, no bracelet.
Also as I explain in the second video, screwdriver tips have to be adjusted for the screws that you are working on. One does not sharpen the tips, you are adjusting how the tips fit the slot. This adjustment needs to be made when switching from one movement to another is just part of watchmaking.
@@watchrepairtutorials I hadn't made the assumption about caseless watches. That being the case I can definitely see your point. Though I would think that I would start on old mechanical watches that I am able to find around. I don't even know where I would find a caseless movement.
@@jimbelcher6877 watch making start off on ETA 6498 movements but those run a couple hundred bucks.
Are usually the Chinese equivalent which is the ST 36 or 3600. They run about $30 that gives you a chance to work on a pretty good working movement to start developing your skills a little bit.
@@watchrepairtutorials I found a movement on amazon for about 25 bucks, it doesn't seem to be the one you refer to, but I can get it shipped for free. (I retired to the Philippines so shipping can be a problem). If you happen to have a link to the one you are referring to, I would appreciate it.
@@jimbelcher6877 you check check on eBay or Aliexpress whichever ships better to you. They are basically all the same.
What brand and model of bronze tweezers do you use or recommend? I’m about to buy a pair and would like your recommendations. Thanks much!
I have 2 pairs of these. www.jewelerssupplies.com/tweezers-bronze-non-magnetic-5-570.830.html
I left one as is for plates and bridges and the second set I reshaped the tips to make them more friendly when I am working with small parts.
Hello Alex do you have any recommendations on mainspring winders other than bergeon?
If you work on old pocket watches you can find a vintage set K&D’s that work real well.
Personally I would just buy the Bergeon and 3 sizes depending on what you work on and for about 250 you have a one that will last.
@@watchrepairtutorials I do have the k&d robbins type and thought I was all set for mainspring winders until I tried my first wristwatch
Hi Alex, what would you recommend for a hand puller and setter that's decent yet won't break the bank?
What’s up my bearded friend. I prefer levers myself and use have a set from Horotec.
It you search Amazon for hand levers you will see a set by finding king for about 10 that look pretty good.
One thing I would do is polish the underside that contacts the dial,
Just in case there is a nib or rough spot.
@@watchrepairtutorials hey Alex, doing good.👍 I've been looking on Amazon, came across some Findingking items but no levers. I'll keep searching.
Hi Alex ,
What age would be great time to start learning about watch repairs…..?
I’m new to this but I guess I’m too old to start….in late 50’s, however I would like my boy to learn about watches as a hobby
I have students in their 70’s. Never too old to learn.
love that F bomb you dropped in there lol subscribed!
Another Reddit Brother, in the que for quality insightful information 🎯
Good to have you here brother
I would love a guide for tools for doing full service with tools that are in categories, Best, okay and avoid, only buying Bergeon/Horotec is very expensive and any alternative is welcome
That’s a great idea I’ll try to work it into some videos
@@watchrepairtutorials Like I can't by the life of me find Hexane easily for Sweden
@@Torskel see if you can find a laboratory supply company.
If you buy a screwdriver set be sure to get one with a stand included.
I have a sharpening stone for knives, that should suffice right?
As long as it’s not too fine. When you get into grips like 1000 2000 it’s gonna take a long time to remove any metal.
@@watchrepairtutorials no worries, thank you
Esslinger sells these sharpening stones in a wooden base, but the replacement stones they sell apparetly don't fit the base based on the dimensions they give. If I buy one of these horotec sharpening stones in a wooden base, how do I get replacment stones that fit it?
I have never, ever had to replace a sharpening stone. If it becomes grooved you simply flatten it using g 150 grit sandpaper on a flat surface like glass, granite or tile and move the stone over the paper until it’s flat again.
Super easy.
@@watchrepairtutorials thanks!
One thing you forgot about the cheap screw drivers. Cheap screwdriver sets usually have tips that are not replaceable. Break a tip and it could be too short to sharpen properly, meaning that you have no choice but to throw the entire thing away.
yes, you have to remember that this is video that new people who don't even know at first if they will stick with it. Once they feel like they really want to stay with this hobby, screwdrivers will be one of the first major upgrades.
hi can you help?i have a breitling colt chronometre A74380.they changed battery on watchstore but breitling dont work.some said cant reset it.
You need to have it diagnosed by watchmaker to see if the movements actually working. You can’t tell this by putting the battery in it.
The movements worked for few weeks but the big hand jump 4sec,to tell me need more service.after that stop.@@watchrepairtutorials
What's the scoop regarding winding mainsprings by hand? Acceptable? Workable but ultimately poor practice? Just stepping into your world, and as quality winders come with a premium price tag, curious as to your recommendation ( options being A: handwind and get winding set when I can afford it B: buy a cheap set, C: buy nice but one at a time )
Thanks!
Hand winding mainsprings damages the spring, so that’s a no go.
Best practice, for you would be just to buy a new main spring because they come coiled in a ring which fits on top of the barrel and you just push them in. You don’t need a winder. Most vintage watches need a new main spring anyway.
I did do a video on with a section on winders. I think it’s the one about getting more amplitude from your main spring barrel
@@watchrepairtutorials Ok sounds good, thank you!
Loving your content man, it's almost single handedly pushed me from "that would be really cool to learn" to "hey, maybe I can really do this"
Would you be willing to make some videos for other basic skills like hand placement, crystal replacement, gasket maintenance, case cleaning / finishing, water resistance testing, etc? Making my way through your beginner series right now so some of that would be super helpful. Of course there are many other videos out on these, but I think everyone watching this would agree that your content is an order of magnitude superior in terms of clarity and depth.
@watchrepairtutorials oh wait, I just saw you have a watchmaking course on your website that looks like it covers the majority of these issues. Is that thing still live / updated, or did that get transferred / sublimated into your TH-cam channel?
@@daveellis608 the watchmaking course is still a work in progress. As of today the first three lessons are up and the fourth lesson will be up later next week. Because it’s still being built out I’m offering it at substantially discounted price than it will be once I have the first 20 lessons finished.
This course is designed to be as close to go in to watchmaking school as possible. It’s not about how to service one movement and that’s it. All phases of watchmaking with the exception of lathe work will be included, including in-depth
knowledge on all the subjects that you mentioned.
@@watchrepairtutorials
Sold!
What's your preference in the world of crystal press machines? I'm a buy nice instead of buy twice kind of guy (unless there is truly minimal difference in quality between the two price points). Robur?
What's your opinion on Carbon Fiber tweezers? I can get a Bergeon set of 3 Carbon Fiber tweezers for less than half of the price of a single Bergeon Brass tweezer. As a someone who's going to start with watch repair should I go with the carbon fiber ones?
I don’t have any experience with them. The biggest issue would be how well they sharpen and how much of a point you can get.
i think those are specifically for hands or dial work like refitting applied markers. I would go for brass on if your starting. Harder metal tweezers like steel will also more likely ping parts and jewels off your desk - I made this mistake when I started. Tbh there’s nothing better then a freshly dressed pair of brass(and i’m sure bronze) tweezers, don’t deny yourself this experience 😎
@@MrMadvillan For years my go to tweezers have been this little 3c carbon steel tweezer.
I love how it fits in my hand and they are so sharp I can pick up the tiniest of screws.
I use bronze as well but the problem has always been that I could never find a pair as small as my 3C.
I spend an hour or so one afternoon with a file, sharpening stone and sandpaper and completely reshaped them to the same profile on old trusty and now I have a bronze pair that may just be the perfect tweezer.
I'm very new to watch repair and ordered a byniiur watch repair kit for like 17 dollars yesterday on Amazon am I getting a good kit or did I waste my money?
You can’t have a lot of expectations on a 17 dollar kit right?
I WILL give you the ability to see if this is something you want to continue and if you do, you will start to upgrade your tools.
@@watchrepairtutorials thx
Hey dude. I know I'm late i just came across your channel today. Been thinking about getting into watch repair since i always took a liking to watches and clocks plus it would complement my current job that I'm learning atm as well on the job just for something fun and to do on the side if i get good at it. Your videos have been super informative you really do talk about the little things the others don't talk about. Super Appreciate ya! Ill be watching all of your other stuff too. I wanna learn more.
Welcome brother. I know that was a hard video to sit through but I think they are getting better.😀
Hi, could please tell me how can i find the yellow box on internet? does it have a specific name?. Thank you
I don’t know if they’re still available. I’ve had those for a long time.
@@watchrepairtutorials ok but how is it called? Where did you get it? Is it specific to an hobby or profession?
@@DaBon23 if you google “watch parts tray” you will find many.
The F bomb at six and a half minutes got the like. Aloha
It’s kind of having normally talk, but unfortunately for TH-cam, it has drawbacks but thank you
Hi Alex can you you do a video on your microscope that you use . I’m new to this hobby and would like to buy a microscope any help would be greatly appreciated.
Yep, I’ll put it on the short list.
@@watchrepairtutorials Hi Alex! I am fascinated by your videos! I am a very beginner in this, so i hope you wouid advise me what kind of lens to use. I have a headset with 4 changable lenses, and one Bergeon 1 1/2, x 6.5 eye lens. When i try to use less magnifying lenses of the headset i do not have enough magnification to do anything with a movement. When i try to use the thickest lens - it magnifies better, but i need to get my nose into a movement... Using the x6.5 eyelens is even worse - i really need to keep my eye 2 cms above the movement! I know about a microscopes, i sow your video. But if to speak about classic lenses - is there any way to have decent magnification and at the same time not to incline so low above the movement, keeping a distance between the movement and an eye? Thank You!
@@vladyslavkhokhlov349 Not really. For assembly work the typical watchmaker will be using a 4x lens. When it comes to getting really close in for inspection you need a microscope. Digital is fine for inspection but you cant really work under them.
Can we get a mention of the unsung heros of the bench: Rodico and Peg wood?!
Woop woop. What would you like.?
@@watchrepairtutorials I really value what you’re doing on your channel and hope it brings you satisfaction.
I bought those cheap screwdrivers and then steadily replaced them with the bergeon ones. I couldn't bring myself to spend that much money of the bergeon holder though so reamed out the Chinese one to fit.
Yea, almost everybody ends up moving to a better quality set. I just wanted people to know that you can start without breaking the bank as long as you know how to dress your screwdrivers.
@@watchrepairtutorials I think its great advice seeing as the first movements people will work on are likely scrap anyway. And I have never dressed tweezers so looking forward to that. Im guilty of buying new when mine are dull.
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What is the gritt of India or Arkansas stone?
It varies from manufacturer to manufacture. I would find a supplier and inquire about their specific stones.
@@watchrepairtutorials Thanks, I mean that I would know which is the most proper grit. 1500 is fine?
@@giacomodelbianco that’s too fun. 400 is about right
@@watchrepairtutorials Thanks!
The loupes I ordered from Ali Express arrived today. 👎They're one step up from useless, distortion is horrendous. I had a couple of cheapies I bought off eBay 20 years ago that were great. I wear trifocals, which of the 2 clip-ons would you recommend, or is it totally subjective?
Subjective. I have progressive lens and both worked fine. I would start with the less expensive one and see how that works.
@@watchrepairtutorials thanks, Alex. I appreciate your advice.
Aren’t these 26$ drivers Bergeon 3044 😂😂😂?
The Chinese are great at copying design. 👍