$300 Bergeon Watch Tools vs $15 Watch Tool-Kit (Overview) - 2021
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- You can’t go wrong with the high quality of the 100% Swiss-made watch tools from Bergeon. I also will be comparing them to a cheap set of tools from Amazon and show you the main differences between them and why you should never go cheap on a tool kit for watch repairs/service/adjustments.
Bergeon Deluxe Rubber Dust Blower: www.esslinger.com/bergeon-573...
Bergeon Work Pad Bench: www.esslinger.com/bergeon-680...
Bergeon Rotating Set of Mini Screwdrivers: www.esslinger.com/bergeon-300...
Bergeon Watch Band Tool: www.esslinger.com/bergeon-676...
Bergeon Soft Support Block: www.esslinger.com/bergeon-674...
Disclaimer: I am not sponsored by any of the products shown in the video, I simply bought everything with my own money for my own interests.
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I came to your video with high expectations of a proper comparison between cheap and expensive tools, but just found out that you just received the Bergeons and are assuming that they will be better without a single use just because they are more expensive? Ideally you should spend a few weeks using them, and then do a side by side comparison.
Please allow me to do some constructive criticism. And BTW, I use both Bergeon and cheap tools as well. Like many real watchmakers.
For example, I have a pair of #2 Dumont tweezers (which are better than Bergeon BTW), and will eventually magnetize, but I also use a pair of brass tweezers that will never get magnetize, but I went to the cheap option. Is very soft brass, so it can get bent and skewed, but that is why sharpening stones are one of the most important tools of a watchmaker. Not only for sharpening tweezers, but screwdriver blades as well.
And speaking of tweezers: to change a strap? Why? How?
Another very important tool is a demagnetizer, as all your steel tools will get magnetized. Even the Bergeon ones. You can get away with the cheap option here as well.
The bracelet fitting block is made of plastic. Your watch bracelet is stainless steel, there is no way that it can scratch it. Go cheap.
For spring bar tools, I have two Bergeon 6767, one in my toolkit and one at my desk. The cheap ones can do scratch your watch lugs.
Screwdrivers: if you only want to change batteries, or even light watch repairs (emphasis on light) you can get away with cheap screwdrivers. You won't be applying too much torque anyway, and while the metal is softer, you can always resharpen the blades. BTW they are called blades, and not tips or heads.
Loupe: I use a Horotec 5.75X which I love. Cheaper loupes are made of plastic, but on the good ones the lens is made out of glass, and is removable for cleaning and replacement. I also use other cheaper options for modifications, but a loupe is a must if you are seriously working on a movement.
You also showed the presto tool to remove watch hands, but you didn't show any tool to put them back on. For removing hands I use Horotec levers. There are also Bergeons, and here you should go with the good quality, since you are dealing with very delicate parts, like dials and hands. You can bend and ruin them if you mistreat them, like you did on your fake Explorer II video. If that is what you are doing with your expensive tools, I guess you better stay with the cheap ones, as you literally ruined the movement. You can do that with $300 or $15 tools. At the end of the day is your money, not mine.
There are several other tools that you never mentioned, and that's why I assume that you are not really planning to do serious watch maintenance, like finger cots, a movement holder, cushion, hand setters, a crystal press, ultrasonic cleaner, etc. There is a universe of tools which you never mentioned.
I'm just trying to guide people from spending a lot of money when they don't need to. Cheap tools are not that bad if you know how to use them.
Finally, I strongly suggest you check this video from Marshal from Wristwatch Revival: th-cam.com/video/4tl7xNPvmyM/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate your comment and feedback! Will take all points into consideration, thanks👍🏻
You reccomend watching Marshall's video? Then whats the beef here? Other than throwing out differing opinions for the sake of it. Marshall also recommends going with Bergeon drivers for anyone past an experimental phase. So whats the deal with crying about them here? In fact most of the tools he recommends in that video are the higer end sort except for very few things like a barrel closer. Also, tweezers remove spring bars just fine. Its not rocket science.
You show 2 extremes without covering the good quality middle path which is what most people would want.
Good point
You could have left it at the plastic watch holder. For the price of the Bergeron holder, you can get the entire Amazon kit…
Sounds like the Amazon kit is a good deal for an enthusiast (who can then upgrade as needed).
The amazon tool kit is okay but certainly not that good and although there are so many kits, I personally have had a bad experience with one of the cheap tool kits and thats why I recommend Bergeon over them.
Most people would only change a battery every couple of years. Nobody is going to drop fricking $300 on a battery change
I know you said that in the beginning (repair, service etc) but $300 is practically the price or half the price of a new watch for most people
Very good Advice!
@@chicagotypewriter2094 It depends what you want to do. I would buy cheap tools to start until you decide you want to be a watchmaker/hobbyist or not. If yes, buy the best once and you will never be disappointed. For the sake of not breaking the bank buy good tools only when you need them. It helps to be an introvert!
Great informative video my Guy!! Loved the honest opinion!! Job well done! Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching💯🙏
i cant believe the difference is that significant between a midrange toolkit at $50 compared to the MASSIVE price markup by bergeon
the old saying , you get what you pay for
I am late to the party here, but... You handle unjustified criticism quite well. Not all motivation for buying a very nice tool is utilitarian. Sometimes you buy the nice tool because you can and you find it satisfying to use. Good fortune to you.
Thank you for the nice comment! I appreciate it😊
@@LocalWatchGuy You're welcome. I intend to retire in another year or so. Top of my bucket list is a few $12 Chinese automatic movements to practice on. Next is a trip across town to Esslinger. Good tools are worth the money.
Great video. Just wondering, I'm considering to buy either the Bergeon 6767-f or the Bergeon 7825 spring bar tweezers for changing the strap of my watch. There is quite a big price difference, do you think the Bergeon 6767-f does the job good enough? ps. my watch does not have the drilled lugs..
Yes you are right, the Bergeon 7825 is way more expensive than the 6767-F but from what I have seen, the build quality and function is worth every penny. I would have bought it but I only found out about it after I received my order from esslinger. The 6767-f does its job very well but its not as good as the 7825 tweezers when it comes to non-drilled lugs. Thanks for watching!
That's kinda too biased for me... E.g. you didn't really compare the tweezers, you just said the cheap ones just suck.
Awesome video!
It’s my little brothers bday and he’s really into watches and I really want to get him a watch tool kit but dnt know any good quality tool kits. Do you have any recommendations? I went on esslinger webiste
Don’t know which tool kit I should purchase
Please let me know
Thank you
I think theres a useful tool kit by Bergeon on Amazon which has a bunch of things all in one box together
@@LocalWatchGuy I would really appreciated if can you send me the link to it. Thank you
The temperature handling capability of the tweezers is pointless. And a photographer's air blower works just as well as the Bergeon one. And probably cheaper.
In regards to the photographers air blower, I have both and the bergeon air blower has a flat bottom base so it could stand on the table and is more convenient if someone is repairing the watch so it doesn't keep rolling away
I take issue with your statement that the swiss tools "won't bend or break".
At this size, any tools will bend or break if misused. In fact, for the tiniest tools, you can kill them just by knocking them off a workbench. I've killed $400 Vannas scissors like that!
Fine tools are great, but they're a far cry from indestructible.
@@LocalWatchGuy And so does many photographer's air blower. Search Rocket blower. Works as good, stands on its own, and costs a fraction of the Bergeon
@@estiloyrelojes Yup, that's the blower I have.
IF you are a "WATCHMAKER which takes about eight years of education and very exacting tests to be certifiedThen By all means buy the Bergeron tools! If you are like me who has been educated as a"WATCH REPAIRER" which took two years !Five hours a day,five days a week,get the less expensive tools! IF YOU ARE NOT A WAtCH MAKER/ EXPERT DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY! If you are less educated,Don't fool Yourself
I don't agree, if you own watches, there are some tools that just need to be Bergeon.
You can start with $60 screw drivers, there blower doesn't matter. The mat doesn't matter, the case back opener can be a Boley, same with tweezers, the watch band yellow tool thingy, doesn't matter. My screwdrivers have a spinny tool and this guy picked a crap Amazon tool set. Even if you decide to go with cheaper options, source each tool one by one and know that there are other brands like Boley, Horotec, etc that have great tools that aren't Chinese crap tools
Maybe it's just me; but why would you use tweezers on a bracelet?
Bergeon makes special tweezers to easily remove the bracelet, look it up.
We made you opt for buying these tools individually instead of getting, say, the Bergeon 7812 Tool Set?
Good question. I think the tool box came with some things that I wouldn’t really use
I wonder if one could harden those cheap tools at home before using them?
Not sure
Ooohhh let’s all buy Bergeon
Lets do it
tool vs unexpectedly available
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I found the official website for B, but I can't find the flagship store! There is no standard price!
Keep searching for it, Im sure you'll find something.
@@LocalWatchGuy ok
I don't know who this guy thinks he's kidding but he's never touched the inside of a watch in his entire life. 250mm screw driver.....really?
lol
Zero point fifty millimeters. Interesting way to say half millimeter lol
😂
For the love of god the way you talk about milometers is very wrong! 250mm is equivalent to approximately 10". an 80mm is approximately 3" WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
My only guess is that it's 0.250mm or 0.80mm. Got to do homework before shooting a tutorial LOL 😂
Thanks for watching💯points taken into consideration!
Bergeon quality is trash compared to what it was. Get a better brand,
Have to disagree with you on that one, I find their quality to be superb
How can I get the bergeon tools in India at maharashtra, City Bhusawal
@@pubgbros7074 you will likely get Chinese knockoffs.
Man if you don't know what you're doing you can screw-up the watch independently how expensive the tools you're using are... I'm not defending Chinese tools, as you're defending Swiss tools, other thing i assume if you're in a hurry you shouldn't work on a watch or anything that can have it function compromised...
Screwdrivers from zero point fifty millimetres to two point fifty millimetres..... how about 0.5 to 2.5mm thats how you talk about metric sizes!
Sure thing
sorry im checking out your watch tool comparison at such a later date than from when you posted it. what struck me, iis the lack of proof you have to back up what your comparing. we are not stupid, we already know that the 300 swiss made set is going to obviously be better then the 15 dollar set from amazon. that being said ill bet the house that any watch maker with the cheap amazon set will out perform you with your swiss made set , all day, any day, and every day!! you said the pry tool bent and broke up in your hands while trying to remove a bezel from the skx 007. where is that pry tool at? thats not it in your hand there is it, of course it isnt, i dont believe you broke a pry tool, wouldnt you at least have that to prove how much better the swiss made tool is? that amazon pry tool will deface any bezel from any watch a hundred times before it breaks. i think you posted this video just to set your mind at ease after spending 300 dollars on tools you could gotten on amazon for 15 dollars. look, you cant make a comparison video on one item that completely destroys a similar item because you say so.. thanks for the video
Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching the video!😁
I used to buy Bergeon, but there is so much counterfeit product out there now unfortunately. Hard to know what is authentic.
You sound like your typical Amazon affiliate link scammer. You talk way too much and the reasons you give why the Swiss tools are better would probably upset the Swiss tool makers if they could hear you. The Swiss tweezers come with a vinyl case and magically the Swiss screwdrivers can’t scratch a watch. Take the entirety of your watch tools and cram them up your fourth point of contact.
Firstly I don't get a penny from the links I posted in the description and secondly, Im here to educate people not scam them .
I don’t care if you make a penny or not. You sound like a used car salesman. I’m currently looking at buying watch tools and your video is a waste of time. You didn’t even address any of my points. Expensive tweezers are worth it because of the vinyl case? Tool reviews on TH-cam used to be good. Now everyone with few exceptions is slimy as hell.