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If I may offer my two bits as a layman. After watching many such documentaries, it appears to me that the current commercial aviation industry is vulnerable to a sort of transition crisis from the days of virtually zero auto-pilot to a theoretical future of full automation. The industry seems stuck in a Venn diagram of sorts where the overlapping roles of the pilot and auto-pilot are ill-defined for 100% safety 100% of the time. If the auto-pilot is not there to reduce workload, what is it for ? If it requires constant surveillance, like an untrained employee, then it would seem of little value that way and pilots would be better off without any auto-pilot. There is a natural inclination to trust systems that have shown reliability. It is only human to adapt to change that way. Auto-pilot may thus have the tendency to weaken the piloting capability over time. After all, practice makes perfect and lack of practice would manifest badly in a crisis where time is short. I think its time the industry refine and standardize its common goals for the future of autopilot systems and their interaction with pilots. While there can never be 100% safety, surely it is worth the effort to minimize autopilot-related accidents. Just my two bits.
I was a Captain at Continental Airlines when that aircraft was in the fleet and I probably flew it. I find it hard to believe that they didn’t notice the thrust levers during that climb not to mention the engine instruments. That is the worst case of tunnel vision in the cockpit that I ever saw.
As a captain, what do you think about the captain being frozen for those 10 seconds before they plunged into the water? Is it common for captains to freeze and not do anything? I find it interesting as I would assume they would be looking everywhere to prevent plunging.
idk how you can just give up knowing that in less than a couple minutes you're gonna die. I would be trying everything possible. but then again I would be constantly monitoring all my gauges etc as well. sad for everyone involved
There is no way you can possibly know that. In addition trained pilots do not ignore their instruments let me assure you. Get some pilot training then make comments in the TH-cam comments section
@@blake9358 How rude. I simply made a statement. Are you contradicting my statement and saying that a pilot who doesn't monitor their instruments is fine? Or what? Frankly, my statement should be common sense to anyone, including a pilot. Why do you think it's ok to talk to people like that?
Tragic event. I find it so hard to believe that career pilots would fail to monitor the few instruments that are vital to diagnosing and assessing the status of their aircraft. I find it as unbelievable as not paying attention to the speedometer, wheel, and throttle of your car while driving on the roads.
When the pilots encounter a situation they've never actually experienced, competence is what's required to right the situation. It seems these guys turned on the autopilot, and immediately went to sleep (or something), but certainly stopped being competent pilots..
It's becoming quite clear that the amount of hours a pilot has means little. In this scenario, even a student pilot could have saved the aircraft. Too many times these types of accidents occur because pilots rely on automation instead of actually flying the aircraft. The crash landing of Asiana Airlines Flight 214 in San Francisco immediately comes to mind. Sincere condolences to the families.
It seems to me as if the pilot flying didn't really have 18,000 hours of experience. What he had was enough luck to have had 1 hour of experience (where the plane operated properly as expected) 18,000 times. This is quite different from 18,000 hours of varied conditions and problems that leads to a truly competent pilot. His luck finally ran out and he had to start his second hour of experience with a serious problem - and he only made it through 4 minutes. Sad...
@@Vincent_Sullivan you don't know what you're talking about. He had 18000 hrs of total flight time with 9000 on the 737,got his licence in 1997 and joined the airline in 2014. He was also the very same captain who was flying( as a pm ) the very same plane when a similar incident occurred 1 year before the actual accident. Here the pf was the fo who took the proper actions to stabilize the plane. It is indeed true that flight hours mean little but they are not completely irrelevant. The only skill that is directly related and thus would never cease to increase thanks to them is your ego.
totally agree, posted same today. Yet sometimes, they are so startled, they make the situation worse. A few more recent fly-by-wire situations would not have happened if the pilots had left the plane to do its thing, and let the automatics react, and save the plane, but instead they grab the controls and panic = crash.
Total incompetence and neglect of duty, what the hell were they doing, a quick visual sweep of the instrument displays and throttles would have prevented this from happening.
We all have the advantage of hindsight here, but I just can't figure why the visual sweep didn't happen. Or if it did happen, why no attention was given to the noticeable differences between right and left. Even up to the end it was a fairly simple problem to correct thru basic aviation techniques....
@@Anglosaxon69 bro take a chill pill. It's a video on TH-cam. It's for entertainment. This ain't a training video. This bro monetized it. They're selling cheetos to people who watch this. And 🍿
It never cease to amaze me how pilots with so many flight hours seemingly forget to look at the instruments they learned about during their first very first flying lesson when an emergency takes place. There are several videos I’ve watched where that is a problem. It is even more amazing when one realizes there are TWO trained pilots on board.
What’s even more amazing is that the captain of this flight experienced a similar throttle imbalance only a year before on this very plane . * in that incident the FO was pf. And they never reported it to maintenance. But the maintenance record of this plane is frightening tbf
I love that there’s so many of these smaller air crash explanation videos. The three I watch, disaster breakdown, mentor pilot and green dot aviation all have unique ways of presenting their info. It’s really refreshing to watch multiple videos on the same crash and pretty much having three different videos which all drastically changed how the crash is perceived and the narrative of it. Really interesting.
Same here cuz i love seeing things from different perspectives...i.e.: the 3 channels u mentions which are also my favorite aviation channels.. Green Dot is in 1st for me, Mentour Pilot is right behind, then disaster breakdown...I love it at all..and of course TH-cam i love too
The usage of minimal music during the pre-flight sections, followed by beats at the right time to kick things off when it gets serious, is so dope. In fact, zero music is required for the pre-flight.
I vote for no music whatsoever in any YT videos where there is narration. It gets in the way of the narration. I find myself using the cc and mute buttons. But then you get words like Pirates when he says Pilots. Fortunately, context is clear enough to know he's not talking about Blackbeard.
@@bikenyI think this is an interesting cultural phenomenon! American kitchen nightmares has sooo much music and the English versions have none. it's shocking. enjoy your day.
I like that you have established a non-spoiling build up throughout all your videos. Even it's quite clear on how things won't end well this time, I still wasn't sure and was kept very engaged.
As an Indonesian, I was really looking forward for SJ182 to be covered especially after its final report has been published just recently, and to be honest, I never thought you would be the first one to cover it! Stellar work as always, with great editing as well as the seamless transition between the PMDG 737 in MSFS for exterior shots as well as the (accurate) IXEG 737 Classic in XP11 for the cockpit shots. As well as the thorough explanation of the events unfolding that led into the accident, which is definitely way more informative-based compared to your usual Mayday episode. Great work as always!
Was puzzled on what add-ons have been used to put this together (clearly the PMDG 737 in MSFS did not fit with the 733 cockpit) but you've ansered it..
First thought - "Oh, I'd watched something about this flight before. Should I give this take a go?" Man - so glad I did! Incredibly well done. As others are pointing out, your work keeps getting better all the time. Thank you!
Another excellent video. Terrifying to think the actual flight happened 3x faster than your reconstruction. We all see the faults and issues as you present them, but to unexpectant trusting pilots it must catch them so unaware and put them in a state of immediate shock that we can only imagine how it would feel, and how we would react in similar situations.
What I learned from this channel is that it’s amazing that I managed to survive all those years flying. Pilots have very hard complicated jobs. I don’t understand how flying is less scary than undergoing surgery.
Isn’t it the safest way to travel? To the point where you’re way more likely to die from something else like a heart attack while flying rather than an accident
When this accident first happened, I had suspected that when the A/P suddenly kicked off, that possibly the pilot(s) had taken off their seatbelts or something and weren't in a position to recover the plane. Shocking to see what *actually* transpired. What an outstanding video. Keep up the great work!
Your videos consist of exactly the parts of a 1h flight investigation documentary, that i like the most.You don't even have to watch the video, to know it's going to be good. Keep up your awesome work!
This might just of been your best investigation video yet, the cinematics, the detailed explanations. All the visuals and varying scenes made this video very engaging. It's also the best explanation I've heard about this crash. Keep up the awesome work!!
Green Dot is good. I prefer Mentour Pilot but Green Dot is a clear second for me. Well put together stories and explanations. Mayday: Air Disaster is trash; skip them entirely
@@CAROLUSPRIMA I agree. I'd compare this channel more to Allec Johsua Ibay's channel, which I'm subscribed to, as well. I think I like this channel better bcz the narrator speaks clearly on this channel & I don't have to stop & start the video bcz I want to read the commentary by Allec (bcz there's no narration) to completely understand what's going on.
An excellent and informative explanation of the tragedy of Sriwijaya Air 182. It brought to mind the loss of TAROM Flight 371. In that disaster a defective auto-throttle and the sudden incapacitation of the captain, who was the pilot monitoring, proved to be another instance of "malignant precision", and sixty lives were lost.
Please keep including the communications (either from the CVR or the pilots with ATC). I realize there may not be a recording available for all, but to me it's so important to know what was being communicated during these emergencies. Thank you for the in-depth analysis and awesome visuals.
This is frankly unbelievable. I spent 9 years on Boeing 737’s, and now I am thankfully flying the Airbus. The Boeing has old technology, but it does provide pilots with massive visual clues as to what’s going on. 1. The thrust levers move. 2. The control wheel moves ( right in front of you) 3. The trim wheel moves. At top of climb, it was my company’s SOP to cover the thrust levers with your hand , to manage the levers movement, thus this became habit at any level out, what these characters are demonstrating, is a total lack of professionalism and an ability to monitor the aircraft, to not notice asymmetric thrust levers that are in the relative position of a single engine scenario, is unforgivable. At the point of autopilot disconnect, the control wheel would have been displaced, and would have been progressively worsening, again not picked up by either individual. Finally, having found themselves in an upset, the most straight forward recovery was not carried out. UPRT is very simple, and clearly neither were capable, begging the question, was it ever carried out. I would not fly in this part of the world, standards are simply not safe.
It's unreal how avoidable this was. The pilots simply did not do their jobs. They were essentially slacking off not even 5 minutes into their shift. Absolutely appalling. It's almost as though they were both hypoxic or something.
Indonesian aircraft have long been known for it's flying coffins, in fact they were banned from European airspace because the maintence was so poor. In fact, many companies prohibited their employees from flying on a long list of Indonesian carriers. Furthermore, travel advisory companies, often used by larger corporations were frequently warned of these dangers.
Great video as always :) I find this incident very upsetting as pilots should always be monitoring their cockpit very closely and should be especially vigilant and sterile within the 10,000ft buffer. The fact that in the final moments the pilot didn’t even notice or use the PFD, especially in IFR conditions is incredible.
Indeed literally upsetting, failed to recover. Could the word attitude have triggered the captain's presence of mind to check the visual attitude direction indicator? As opposed to bank angle warning?
@@doctoraugustuskwembe potentially but pilots aren’t trained to assume anything. Getting too familiar usually ends badly because you don’t expect anything unexpected which is the most important part of being a pilot in an emergency situation
I’m not a pilot so obviously idk what I’d do in this situation, but how is your reaction to basically falling out of the sky *not* to immediately look at the thing that tells you where you’re pointed? So frustrating how preventable this was.
Tunnel vision is a thing, especially when you're in shock. Still not an excuse for the captain to even ignore his FO's reminder of implementing the upset recovery.
Shame as this accident was so prenventable, negligence from the airline for not fixing a persistant problem and negligence from the pilots for not monitoring their instuments properly. BTW, has anyone else stumbled accross this channel and got addicted?
Yep, I have too. Watch a vid from this fella everyday. I especially like the ones where it's the actual people talking in the cockpit. That one where the door flew off on its own is probably my favorite so far since they overcame insurmountable adversity and landed the airplane; even though some people got sucked out and fell out of the sky to their subsequent deaths, and the engine hoovered one of them 🥺
A recurring issue with crashes involving a mechanical issue or failure is that on many occasions, the issue was noticed on previous flights but was not fixed properly or in some cases, was left unreported.
The other recurring issue is that single points of failure are rarely the result of a crash. Multiple factors have to come together in a perfect storm.
Best possible recommendation I look forward to every week, thanks for publishing these! Edit: Watched the entire video, so sad to see how avoidable this accident could have been :/ Also, thanks for replying to me!
I never thought I could ever be so thrilled by plane crashes [edit for sensible people: I just mean the very professional way this guy make his videos]. And though here I am, at 02:15 am, enjoying one more of your videos - which become better and better, by the way! Congratulations and please never stop doing this videos. They are really mini documentaries!
Careful with these things, especially this channel, it's the best and most addictive. After spending hundreds of hours watching this stuff I was convinced my flight was doomed.
You are a sick human! It’s a shame you weren’t on this plane to be apart of the “thrill”. You can say this is a good video but you chose to be a morbid POS with that first line.
@@withy40 who says it? Oh yes, a guy hidden behind of the anonymity of Internet. What a brave attitude 👏 I think you really got my commentary completely wrong. Nobody can ever be thrilled by people dying (what's wrong with you to think such a thing?). In fact, I did say that I never thought I can be so thrilled by plane crashes. And I chose that wording exactly because I think this is some kind of taboo subject. But the way Green Dot Aviation narrates this tragic stories, break down the tragic chains of mistakes/technical failures and provide information about the safety measures adopted after all this crashes in order to avoid them in the future really make this videos very interesting to watch. So, I just wanted to recognise all of this to the guy making them. If you call me sick again or POS I'll report all your comments. I saw you are out there, "making your own justice" by insulting people. That's indeed sick. But anyway. Maybe I just erase this comments at all. I certainly have way more important things to do. Peace.
Always happy to find a new Green Dot video on my TH-cam. Love your music choices, they're just perfect. Although I'm a musician I don't normally notice these things whilst watching a video, but you've found some really unsettling background music to match your work. Keep going, thank you Green Dot!
Music can be magical, totally agree! Excellent sourcing of your background audio, no easy job. Good hire and decision. No Swiss cheese slices for Green Dot!
As much as I'm in awe of the production finesse of this channel, it has had the effect of making me have no intention of going anywhere near a plane for a long time. No thanks
South east asia really has a abysmal safety standard. I still can't imagine how a someone can become a captain when he gets 'startled' if something goes wrong? He turned the plane the wrong way? What?
Your analysis & recap of events were, as usual 💯 (@~ 19:00). The story - with the Swiss cheese disaster sequence for this flight. The flight crew performance & maintenance lack of same. Recommendations by the governing body followed by the clear, concise, to the point Green Dot wrap up. I like to think of it as Green Dots' gift to safety in the airline industry! Happy Holidays & congrats to the Green Dot channel! Best wishes for its continued growth in 2023!
Great simulation! As a chemical engineer, I can say that safety is of utmost importance at every aspect. It's not just experience, but proficiency, active training and lessons learned always need to be taken into consideration in order to bring LTI to 0. Well done Green Dot!!!
Looking forward to this one. I had to chuckle in one of your videos when you mentioned most people fall asleep to your videos. I did fall asleep, but watched it the following day! (I always watch them before I go to sleep) 😄🤣🤣 Keep up the great content and thanks.
Great video explaining to someone like me who has no basic knowledge and understanding on aircrafts. Very methodical, easy to understand (I am Indonesian so my English is not great), so thanks a lot 🙏🏼
After watching so many documentaries, I always check my watch when we take off and be hyper-aware for the first 9 mins. It stuck in my head that it's a critical time and problems might arise around that time
3.5 m views on most of these videos with only 81k subs. You sir, are an extremely undervalued content creator and I just came here to say that I appreciate your videos. They’re put together soooo well.
I remember when this happened, the people on the ground said it looked like the plane just stalled and fell out of the sky, so I always wondered what actually happened. Thank you for the explanation.
It's absolutely unbelievable how little attention they paid to the EADI, even after everything else made it abundantly clear that the plane's orientation was WAY off and they were horribly confused. Seems like that would be an instinctual response in order to figure out what's happening and correct it, but I guess not.
Thank u for doing these videos,very educational,I can understand pilots being a little complacent for long flights but they should've noticed something was wrong even tho everything happened in just 4 minutes,horrifying way to go for everyone on board.
I hate how stories like this go so unnoticed in world media all because it’s not the US or Russia or UK etc. prayers to the families of all that were lost in this avoidable tragedy 🙏🏼💙
Thanks for covering this one, I haven't seen anyone else making a video about this particular accident, so it's an additional asset. Great animation and high standards delivered as always 🌟 And now back to watching, pozdrawiam :)
In a heck load of these video's I'm always amazed at the fact that pilots, stewards, passenger's never realize that they are on an angle. I mean you have an internal balance surely they can feel a banking turn. I imagine it feels like a direction change when coming in for approach to land. Or leveling out after take off.
Well, the passengers and stewardesses certainly can feel the bank angle. But they assume there's a reason for it. The fact the pilot and copilot could NOT tell which way they were banking, let alone that they were banking, indicates they were impaired during takeoff, probably due to substance abuse issues. Also would explain why they never even looked at the instrumentation. It's likely they were already well stewed for a long flight, and just expected auto pilot to do everything for them.
Greta video as always, but I wouldn't want this guy at the front of my plane. What ever happened to monitor your instruments and trust your instruments? Crazy!
You don't want a utility operator in the cockpit. You want trained competent pilots who actually master the art of manually flying an airplane and who understands the art of monitoring the airplane's instruments and who are able to interpret what the instruments are telling the pilot.
The airlines I flew for always trained us to avoid V/S mode and use Level Change instead - except certain uses during an approach. V/S will ignore speed even though selecting V/S _causes_ "MCP Speed" to engage. The crew SERIOUSLY needed to watch the power. Throttle position AND the indicators. And the speed... So sad that they all died for something so avoidable.
Makes you realize that when you get on the plane, you trust SO many different people did and are doing their job mindfully and skillfully. Takes lots of trust
Absolutely love the quality and effort put into these videos, you are without a doubt my favorite air crash investigation youtuber. I admire the fact that you are touching on an air-crash that has barely been covered yet, I would love if you could stick to this format. I say that because a-lot of air-crash investigation youtubers cover the same stories, although it’s always interesting to see another perspective, I can only see so many videos of air france 447 and others before it gets repetitive, so please keep up the good work.
Is it me or there is some sort of bizarre accident involving an airliner in Indonesia almost once every 3 years. I have friends that live in different parts of the country but I'm genuinely nervous to go there as I'd need to fly between places to visit them.
Yeah, i searched Indonesian plane crashes starting from 2021 and counting 3 yrs back and that seams to be kinda true military and commercial, I counted back to 2009 even
It's amazing how many plane accidents Have happened when in auto pilot and a captain not monitoring anything its doing. One crash happened when a captain didn't even KNOW the plane was IN autopilot. He FOUGHT the autopilot and crashed, not realizing he was fighting it even though a LIGHT showed it was on autopilot. Mind blowing. Many times they hyper focus on ONE thing and ignore all else when stress levels are up during times like this. They train not to do this, but it's hard to overcome what is hardwired into our DNA. One crash I read about a pilot was so hyper focused on one issue he could NOT focus on something so easily fixable to save the plane....how easy was it to notice?.....the plane system was SCREAMING what the issue was and the pilot completely ignored it. Brains under stress are a trip.
I've learned from playing Microsoft Flight Simulator that an improperly configured autopilot can literally crash the plane. It sucks that there aren't more preventative measures in place for a bad autopilot...
A malfunctioning autopilot isn't the problem. The problem is, the people supposed to be monitoring the situation were not capable of flying the plane other than relying on the autopilot. When "bank angle" is announced, the first thing the pilot should check is his instruments. He didn't even do that, he just yanked the stick wildly and turned the airplane on it's side.
No surprises from Indonesia, always happen. Plane crashes & most time LION AIR occurred due to the irresponsible owner(s) of the lion air but this time with Sriwijaya happened due to those irresponsible pilots. Regardless the hours of travelling the pilots MUST ALWAYS check the systems frequently when they set the system onto Auto Mode, don't just left & trust the auto pilot itself flying/control the flight, especially they know that the boeing is old & probably should not be used at all. Thank you for expanding in details of what had happened with this airplane & very informative!
It is absolutely incredible that these two pilots were so fully negligent of their duties and responsibilities to the safety of the aircraft and its passengers. What on earth were they thinking? The power levers and the instruments were right under their noses. How could any real pilot miss those discrepancies?
I thought pilots were trained to constantly monitor the EDI. That tool is essential to know how and in what direction the plane is flying. It baffles me how this can be ignored.
@@antcantcook960 anyone with a sound mind can be better than both of them with proper training. Because of their sheer incompetency, all of them lost their lives even tho it could've been prevented at several stages of this disaster.
@@GreenDotAviation sounds great! Looking forward to every single one of them :) haha my wife started to watch you too. When i watched one of your videos at the dinner table 🤩
I love these videos because whether intentionally or not they can be treated as a podcast and not actively viewed. Brilliant! This and many other accidents make me wonder if pilots can either manually fly an aircraft or fully understand the autopilot/computer systems. Too many components that involve people, systems, and circumstances to ever be truly safe.
I love these vids brother, keep them coming! I would appreciate if you could look into the crash of PIA flight 8303, and potentially make a video on it. I think it would be really interesting to see an in depth breakdown of it.
@@Capecodham I don't know about Temoor, but I usually manage an extra stroke and sometimes 2 for scratching my nuts... You should consider all the time savings from Doc's (minus "tor") and "alphabet soup" instead of trying to remember a specific governmental agency!!! ;o)
I love the forensic style breakdown of how these accidents happen. Love this channel … I fly a lot but it’s clear I might be on borrowed time . Human error sure seems to be the number 1 factor in these scenarios. Why are pilots not flying their planes? So much automation that they lose their abilities it seems. Condolences to the families affected in this tragedy
Wtf were they monitoring then, literally everything was showing them something was wrong despite the sensor issues. This is so sad how this could have been avoided
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I'd love to see Germanwings 9525 on this channel
If I may offer my two bits as a layman.
After watching many such documentaries, it appears to me that the current commercial aviation industry is vulnerable to a sort of transition crisis from the days of virtually zero auto-pilot to a theoretical future of full automation.
The industry seems stuck in a Venn diagram of sorts where the overlapping roles of the pilot and auto-pilot are ill-defined for 100% safety 100% of the time.
If the auto-pilot is not there to reduce workload, what is it for ? If it requires constant surveillance, like an untrained employee, then it would seem of little value that way and pilots would be better off without any auto-pilot.
There is a natural inclination to trust systems that have shown reliability. It is only human to adapt to change that way. Auto-pilot may thus have the tendency to weaken the piloting capability over time. After all, practice makes perfect and lack of practice would manifest badly in a crisis where time is short.
I think its time the industry refine and standardize its common goals for the future of autopilot systems and their interaction with pilots. While there can never be 100% safety, surely it is worth the effort to minimize autopilot-related accidents. Just my two bits.
That's so frustrating
How can a pilot be trained to simply keep his eye open
@greendot Please dont spoil the whole video by telllin in the title what happened. Please edit the titel for future viewers.
I was a Captain at Continental Airlines when that aircraft was in the fleet and I probably flew it. I find it hard to believe that they didn’t notice the thrust levers during that climb not to mention the engine instruments. That is the worst case of tunnel vision in the cockpit that I ever saw.
As a captain, what do you think about the captain being frozen for those 10 seconds before they plunged into the water? Is it common for captains to freeze and not do anything? I find it interesting as I would assume they would be looking everywhere to prevent plunging.
@@Ja-3108 no, that is not common. I think he just gave up.
Basic failure of "IFR Flying 100" ?
@@davidpowell3347 You could say that.
idk how you can just give up knowing that in less than a couple minutes you're gonna die. I would be trying everything possible. but then again I would be constantly monitoring all my gauges etc as well. sad for everyone involved
A pilot who doesn't monitor their instruments is pretty much a powerless passenger
They weren't experience at all. they just wanted a job that day
exactly it is as good as me flying it@
There is no way you can possibly know that.
In addition trained pilots do not ignore their instruments let me assure you.
Get some pilot training then make comments in the TH-cam comments section
@@blake9358 How rude. I simply made a statement. Are you contradicting my statement and saying that a pilot who doesn't monitor their instruments is fine? Or what? Frankly, my statement should be common sense to anyone, including a pilot. Why do you think it's ok to talk to people like that?
@@sarahpiaggio2693 I wasn't rude to you. If you are making statements on TH-cam then you are subject to critique
Notice to Pilots: You are required at all times to fly your plane.
yeah the authority having to go "guys, please look at your instruments :( " is kinda sad
Auto pilot is there, but yes. You are always required to keep an eye on all instruments just incase something goes wrong
@@Prime_Sisyphussuicide not allowed
Suicide not allowed
Air France 447 was the exact opposite
Tragic event. I find it so hard to believe that career pilots would fail to monitor the few instruments that are vital to diagnosing and assessing the status of their aircraft. I find it as unbelievable as not paying attention to the speedometer, wheel, and throttle of your car while driving on the roads.
Sky king 👑 would have pulled out of that without batting an eyelash
more often than not experience makes you so comfy that you start to forget basic things that;s why so many air crashes involves well experience pilots
@@kuro9410_ilust routine is a devil
When the pilots encounter a situation they've never actually experienced, competence is what's required to right the situation. It seems these guys turned on the autopilot, and immediately went to sleep (or something), but certainly stopped being competent pilots..
Complacency kills.
It's becoming quite clear that the amount of hours a pilot has means little. In this scenario, even a student pilot could have saved the aircraft. Too many times these types of accidents occur because pilots rely on automation instead of actually flying the aircraft. The crash landing of Asiana Airlines Flight 214 in San Francisco immediately comes to mind. Sincere condolences to the families.
It seems to me as if the pilot flying didn't really have 18,000 hours of experience. What he had was enough luck to have had 1 hour of experience (where the plane operated properly as expected) 18,000 times. This is quite different from 18,000 hours of varied conditions and problems that leads to a truly competent pilot. His luck finally ran out and he had to start his second hour of experience with a serious problem - and he only made it through 4 minutes. Sad...
@@Vincent_Sullivan you don't know what you're talking about. He had 18000 hrs of total flight time with 9000 on the 737,got his licence in 1997 and joined the airline in 2014.
He was also the very same captain who was flying( as a pm ) the very same plane when a similar incident occurred 1 year before the actual accident.
Here the pf was the fo who took the proper actions to stabilize the plane.
It is indeed true that flight hours mean little but they are not completely irrelevant.
The only skill that is directly related and thus would never cease to increase thanks to them is your ego.
totally agree, posted same today. Yet sometimes, they are so startled, they make the situation worse. A few more recent fly-by-wire situations would not have happened if the pilots had left the plane to do its thing, and let the automatics react, and save the plane, but instead they grab the controls and panic = crash.
A student pilot would have probably been hyperfocused on checking his instruments, whereas this seasoned one seemed way too complacent
those yellows not the best a flying
Total incompetence and neglect of duty, what the hell were they doing, a quick visual sweep of the instrument displays and throttles would have prevented this from happening.
Lol
@@kmlumd44 you find this amusing?
Well they couldn’t of possibly been asleep only 4 minutes after take off? I just can’t figure it out
We all have the advantage of hindsight here, but I just can't figure why the visual sweep didn't happen. Or if it did happen, why no attention was given to the noticeable differences between right and left. Even up to the end it was a fairly simple problem to correct thru basic aviation techniques....
@@Anglosaxon69 bro take a chill pill. It's a video on TH-cam. It's for entertainment. This ain't a training video. This bro monetized it. They're selling cheetos to people who watch this. And 🍿
It never cease to amaze me how pilots with so many flight hours seemingly forget to look at the instruments they learned about during their first very first flying lesson when an emergency takes place. There are several videos I’ve watched where that is a problem. It is even more amazing when one realizes there are TWO trained pilots on board.
Two brains with 1000 of hours of flight experience and they didnt notice the thrust imbalance...unbelievable!
It shows what happens when one gets complacent and put to much trust in Automation!
Can be overconfident, most of the time when u skill enough u just doing something auto-pilot and dependent on feeling than fact.
@@superomegaprimemk2 what if we get thrid pilot that old asf has jobs as a preach of air, and giving fact of air travel jkjkjkj
What’s even more amazing is that the captain of this flight experienced a similar throttle imbalance only a year before on this very plane . * in that incident the FO was pf. And they never reported it to maintenance. But the maintenance record of this plane is frightening tbf
I love that there’s so many of these smaller air crash explanation videos. The three I watch, disaster breakdown, mentor pilot and green dot aviation all have unique ways of presenting their info. It’s really refreshing to watch multiple videos on the same crash and pretty much having three different videos which all drastically changed how the crash is perceived and the narrative of it. Really interesting.
Green Dot is light on the physics but has more content.
Mini air crash investigation is another good one
Mentour Pilot has the highest quality imo. Petter goes for quality over quantity.
Same here cuz i love seeing things from different perspectives...i.e.: the 3 channels u mentions which are also my favorite aviation channels.. Green Dot is in 1st for me, Mentour Pilot is right behind, then disaster breakdown...I love it at all..and of course TH-cam i love too
Great comments. I totally agree with everyone. I watch all those channels as well.
"Experience alone is not an indicator of proficiency" is my quote of the day.
Fear Allah
@@REBECCA12341 huh?
@@REBECCA12341 cause he's not good 😊
The usage of minimal music during the pre-flight sections, followed by beats at the right time to kick things off when it gets serious, is so dope. In fact, zero music is required for the pre-flight.
I vote for no music whatsoever in any YT videos where there is narration. It gets in the way of the narration. I find myself using the cc and mute buttons. But then you get words like Pirates when he says Pilots. Fortunately, context is clear enough to know he's not talking about Blackbeard.
@@bikenyI think this is an interesting cultural phenomenon! American kitchen nightmares has sooo much music and the English versions have none. it's shocking. enjoy your day.
Best TH-cam notification you could possibly get
So true.
I love this community
Nice profile pic
Worst text notification you could possibly get
@@musicplus6306 awwwww
I like that you have established a non-spoiling build up throughout all your videos. Even it's quite clear on how things won't end well this time, I still wasn't sure and was kept very engaged.
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback :)
The early remark that this flight would last 4 minutes really interested me.
it says fatal fall in the thumbnail that gives it away
@@jerrykim7777dog not allowed ect
@@billolsen4360suicide not allowed
As an Indonesian, I was really looking forward for SJ182 to be covered especially after its final report has been published just recently, and to be honest, I never thought you would be the first one to cover it! Stellar work as always, with great editing as well as the seamless transition between the PMDG 737 in MSFS for exterior shots as well as the (accurate) IXEG 737 Classic in XP11 for the cockpit shots. As well as the thorough explanation of the events unfolding that led into the accident, which is definitely way more informative-based compared to your usual Mayday episode. Great work as always!
Hey, I'm glad you found it informative :)
Was puzzled on what add-ons have been used to put this together (clearly the PMDG 737 in MSFS did not fit with the 733 cockpit) but you've ansered it..
Terrible pilots and lack of maintenance. 3 737´s ins 15 yeas. .how ?!
First thought - "Oh, I'd watched something about this flight before. Should I give this take a go?"
Man - so glad I did!
Incredibly well done.
As others are pointing out, your work keeps getting better all the time.
Thank you!
Thank you! Glad you can see them improving :)
Another excellent video. Terrifying to think the actual flight happened 3x faster than your reconstruction. We all see the faults and issues as you present them, but to unexpectant trusting pilots it must catch them so unaware and put them in a state of immediate shock that we can only imagine how it would feel, and how we would react in similar situations.
What I learned from this channel is that it’s amazing that I managed to survive all those years flying. Pilots have very hard complicated jobs. I don’t understand how flying is less scary than undergoing surgery.
Isn’t it the safest way to travel? To the point where you’re way more likely to die from something else like a heart attack while flying rather than an accident
@@circuit10in America and probably most other countries, the most dangerous part of flying is the car drive to or from the airport
When this accident first happened, I had suspected that when the A/P suddenly kicked off, that possibly the pilot(s) had taken off their seatbelts or something and weren't in a position to recover the plane. Shocking to see what *actually* transpired. What an outstanding video. Keep up the great work!
Your videos consist of exactly the parts of a 1h flight investigation documentary, that i like the most.You don't even have to watch the video, to know it's going to be good. Keep up your awesome work!
Thanks for the kind words!
Yeah, it really is like a documentary with all the fat trimmed off
Those documentaries usually imclude victim information. This is just objective flight info
@@aworte3266 Yes, I know but I don't get the point in this comment. The comment does not change my opinion about his Videos.
Youre officially one of my new favorite content creators, mad mad respect on your effort
watched the video too, very compelling. don't worry, as long as people are dumb enough to fly he'll have content for us.
his videos are far more in depth than the high dollar produced, dramatized, hour long mayday episodes
agree 100%
This might just of been your best investigation video yet, the cinematics, the detailed explanations. All the visuals and varying scenes made this video very engaging. It's also the best explanation I've heard about this crash. Keep up the awesome work!!
Green Dot is good. I prefer Mentour Pilot but Green Dot is a clear second for me. Well put together stories and explanations. Mayday: Air Disaster is trash; skip them entirely
I’m glad to hear this! Lots of work goes into these 😊
@@GreenDotAviationIt shows!
@@DizzyDad I too am a huge fan of Mentour. But it’s a different type of channel. Comparing the two is apples to oranges.
@@CAROLUSPRIMA I agree. I'd compare this channel more to Allec Johsua Ibay's channel, which I'm subscribed to, as well. I think I like this channel better bcz the narrator speaks clearly on this channel & I don't have to stop & start the video bcz I want to read the commentary by Allec (bcz there's no narration) to completely understand what's going on.
I'm really addicted to your videos. Glad you only make once a week so it doesn't ruin my life 😅
Glad you like them!
Absolutely awful and completely avoidable.
Another very good and well researched video Mr Green Dot.
An excellent and informative explanation of the tragedy of Sriwijaya Air 182. It brought to mind the loss of TAROM Flight 371. In that disaster a defective auto-throttle and the sudden incapacitation of the captain, who was the pilot monitoring, proved to be another instance of "malignant precision", and sixty lives were lost.
I'm not a pilot but there sure was a lot of complacency in that cockpit.
Yes, the fact that the physical controls move with the automated adjustments should make it very obvious that something is wrong.
Yes. It makes you wonder what conversation (if any) occured after take off. Limited usually to operational matters below 10,000 feet.
I took am not a pilot, however, I often play one on TV and at home when my spouse chases me when I fail to Obey at home!
@@daviddavis3389 In other words you leave your family in the dust to play video games
@@nikobitan7294India don't burn dead body not allowed
Please keep including the communications (either from the CVR or the pilots with ATC). I realize there may not be a recording available for all, but to me it's so important to know what was being communicated during these emergencies. Thank you for the in-depth analysis and awesome visuals.
This is frankly unbelievable. I spent 9 years on Boeing 737’s, and now I am thankfully flying the Airbus.
The Boeing has old technology, but it does provide pilots with massive visual clues as to what’s going on.
1. The thrust levers move.
2. The control wheel moves ( right in front of you)
3. The trim wheel moves.
At top of climb, it was my company’s SOP to cover the thrust levers with your hand , to manage the levers movement, thus this became habit at any level out, what these characters are demonstrating, is a total lack of professionalism and an ability to monitor the aircraft, to not notice asymmetric thrust levers that are in the relative position of a single engine scenario, is unforgivable.
At the point of autopilot disconnect, the control wheel would have been displaced, and would have been progressively worsening, again not picked up by either individual.
Finally, having found themselves in an upset, the most straight forward recovery was not carried out. UPRT is very simple, and clearly neither were capable, begging the question, was it ever carried out.
I would not fly in this part of the world, standards are simply not safe.
Which part of world
Nepal lol
South East Asia
It's unreal how avoidable this was. The pilots simply did not do their jobs. They were essentially slacking off not even 5 minutes into their shift. Absolutely appalling. It's almost as though they were both hypoxic or something.
@@berfuozdemir5374 Asia
The on-going reason to avoid flying with ANY Indonesian airline! Well done for making one the better TH-cam videos of this incident.
Not at all, there is Garuda Indonesia, the rest I agree not safe lol
@@yosevaagung2353 Garuda also had major accidents...Indonesian airlines have the worst safety record in the world
@@CW-rx2jsand you know what? My 10 flights, all safe
Indonesian aircraft have long been known for it's flying coffins, in fact they were banned from European airspace because the maintence was so poor. In fact, many companies prohibited their employees from flying on a long list of Indonesian carriers. Furthermore, travel advisory companies, often used by larger corporations were frequently warned of these dangers.
Great video as always :) I find this incident very upsetting as pilots should always be monitoring their cockpit very closely and should be especially vigilant and sterile within the 10,000ft buffer. The fact that in the final moments the pilot didn’t even notice or use the PFD, especially in IFR conditions is incredible.
Thanks, and absolutely agreed.
Indeed literally upsetting, failed to recover. Could the word attitude have triggered the captain's presence of mind to check the visual attitude direction indicator? As opposed to bank angle warning?
Do they rely on auto pilot to much ?
@@doctoraugustuskwembe potentially but pilots aren’t trained to assume anything. Getting too familiar usually ends badly because you don’t expect anything unexpected which is the most important part of being a pilot in an emergency situation
@@ganesang5537 possibly, I’m simply shocked why none of the pilots were monitoring the PFD however
I’m not a pilot so obviously idk what I’d do in this situation, but how is your reaction to basically falling out of the sky *not* to immediately look at the thing that tells you where you’re pointed? So frustrating how preventable this was.
Tunnel vision is a thing, especially when you're in shock. Still not an excuse for the captain to even ignore his FO's reminder of implementing the upset recovery.
@@fish_birbIndia don't burn dead body not allowed
Drugs alcohol pork not allowed
@@REBECCA12341You need to be put under observation mate
@@kunaldebbarma8086 don't die as a disbeliever
Shame as this accident was so prenventable, negligence from the airline for not fixing a persistant problem and negligence from the pilots for not monitoring their instuments properly.
BTW, has anyone else stumbled accross this channel and got addicted?
Yep, I have too. Watch a vid from this fella everyday. I especially like the ones where it's the actual people talking in the cockpit.
That one where the door flew off on its own is probably my favorite so far since they overcame insurmountable adversity and landed the airplane; even though some people got sucked out and fell out of the sky to their subsequent deaths, and the engine hoovered one of them 🥺
Its not even negligence, its straight up incompetence! How they didnt pay attention to one of most vital part of a plane?
Typically excellent and thorough analysis of what was, at first glance, a bizarre and baffling crash. Thank you for putting it together.
A recurring issue with crashes involving a mechanical issue or failure is that on many occasions, the issue was noticed on previous flights but was not fixed properly or in some cases, was left unreported.
The other recurring issue is that single points of failure are rarely the result of a crash. Multiple factors have to come together in a perfect storm.
Wow, an actual person narrating, and in an intelligent and informative way. Happy to subscribe, thank you.
New sub here. I love the calm, slow but consistent pace. No jittery nonsense of most creators. Excuse me while I binge watch your videos.
you are easily the best aviation disaster analysis channel. Keep up the good work brother
Agreed.
Thank you kindly!
Best possible recommendation I look forward to every week, thanks for publishing these!
Edit: Watched the entire video, so sad to see how avoidable this accident could have been :/
Also, thanks for replying to me!
Thank you :) Glad you're enjoying them
I never thought I could ever be so thrilled by plane crashes [edit for sensible people: I just mean the very professional way this guy make his videos]. And though here I am, at 02:15 am, enjoying one more of your videos - which become better and better, by the way!
Congratulations and please never stop doing this videos. They are really mini documentaries!
Safe horror.
Careful with these things, especially this channel, it's the best and most addictive. After spending hundreds of hours watching this stuff I was convinced my flight was doomed.
You are a sick human! It’s a shame you weren’t on this plane to be apart of the “thrill”. You can say this is a good video but you chose to be a morbid POS with that first line.
@@withy40 who says it? Oh yes, a guy hidden behind of the anonymity of Internet. What a brave attitude 👏
I think you really got my commentary completely wrong. Nobody can ever be thrilled by people dying (what's wrong with you to think such a thing?). In fact, I did say that I never thought I can be so thrilled by plane crashes. And I chose that wording exactly because I think this is some kind of taboo subject. But the way Green Dot Aviation narrates this tragic stories, break down the tragic chains of mistakes/technical failures and provide information about the safety measures adopted after all this crashes in order to avoid them in the future really make this videos very interesting to watch. So, I just wanted to recognise all of this to the guy making them.
If you call me sick again or POS I'll report all your comments. I saw you are out there, "making your own justice" by insulting people. That's indeed sick. But anyway. Maybe I just erase this comments at all. I certainly have way more important things to do.
Peace.
Your channel is the ONLY one I can't wait for every week. Incredible work!
Glad you're enjoying them 🙏
Always happy to find a new Green Dot video on my TH-cam. Love your music choices, they're just perfect. Although I'm a musician I don't normally notice these things whilst watching a video, but you've found some really unsettling background music to match your work. Keep going, thank you Green Dot!
Glad you noticed this! I put a good bit of thought into the music choices :)
Music can be magical, totally agree! Excellent sourcing of your background audio, no easy job. Good hire and decision. No Swiss cheese slices for Green Dot!
one thing about flying at night or fog, and cloudy days---You wont get a sunburn at 30,000 feet, like I did
I don’t normally comment on videos… literally ever. But.. keep up the great work. I love your delivery of information. A+
As much as I'm in awe of the production finesse of this channel, it has had the effect of making me have no intention of going anywhere near a plane for a long time. No thanks
I noticed that the shots have become alot more cinematic, the angles and movement of the camera. Great little change you did there!
I'm delighted you've noticed that! That's thanks to a guy named Aviral who now works with me to make these - he's doing an excellent job.
@@GreenDotAviation He definitely is. If i may ask, do you have a background in aviation or are you just an enthusiast?
@@temoork-0197 I’m currently getting my PPL, lifelong enthusiast up til now
@@GreenDotAviation Good luck with the PPL! I'm sure you'll do great!
South east asia really has a abysmal safety standard. I still can't imagine how a someone can become a captain when he gets 'startled' if something goes wrong? He turned the plane the wrong way? What?
you mean indonesia? Singapore & Malaysia airlines are one of the best but is in SEA. The two MA accidents were just outliers
Nope not the case with India
@@zakwanaiman1209 um not malaysia airlines
Your analysis & recap of events were, as usual 💯 (@~ 19:00).
The story - with the Swiss cheese disaster sequence for this flight.
The flight crew performance & maintenance lack of same.
Recommendations by the governing body followed by the clear, concise, to the point Green Dot wrap up.
I like to think of it as Green Dots' gift to safety in the airline industry!
Happy Holidays & congrats to the Green Dot channel!
Best wishes for its continued growth in 2023!
Thank you for the kind words! More coming in 2023 :)
“However, the auto pilot is not a smart machine …” I had to laugh that was great!
Great simulation! As a chemical engineer, I can say that safety is of utmost importance at every aspect. It's not just experience, but proficiency, active training and lessons learned always need to be taken into consideration in order to bring LTI to 0. Well done Green Dot!!!
Honestly your content is fantastic, keep it up!
Glad you enjoy it! Much more on the way 😁
@@GreenDotAviation I know nothing about airplanes but I enjoyed this.
Looking forward to this one. I had to chuckle in one of your videos when you mentioned most people fall asleep to your videos. I did fall asleep, but watched it the following day! (I always watch them before I go to sleep) 😄🤣🤣
Keep up the great content and thanks.
As long as you watch the following day!🤣🤣Glad you're enjoying them :)
Great video explaining to someone like me who has no basic knowledge and understanding on aircrafts. Very methodical, easy to understand (I am Indonesian so my English is not great), so thanks a lot 🙏🏼
After watching so many documentaries, I always check my watch when we take off and be hyper-aware for the first 9 mins. It stuck in my head that it's a critical time and problems might arise around that time
I can’t get over how this channel hasn’t blow up, these videos are always so well lit together 10/10
Makes my day when this channel posts a new video 👍
😊
3.5 m views on most of these videos with only 81k subs. You sir, are an extremely undervalued content creator and I just came here to say that I appreciate your videos. They’re put together soooo well.
Create something related with 🇮🇩, you will got allot of view especially this kind of video since our government will hide some fact
Like before watching since I know it's going to be a great video. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Many more on the way...
Sad for all lives lost in air plane crashes, but I love how you present and nararate the videos and very detailed.
I remember when this happened, the people on the ground said it looked like the plane just stalled and fell out of the sky, so I always wondered what actually happened. Thank you for the explanation.
In one way I wish I found this channel earlier. In another I am very happy to have so much to binge on!! Great work!!!
I love getting the notification for your channel. I just know it’s going to be a great video!
It's absolutely unbelievable how little attention they paid to the EADI, even after everything else made it abundantly clear that the plane's orientation was WAY off and they were horribly confused. Seems like that would be an instinctual response in order to figure out what's happening and correct it, but I guess not.
wow, just wow!! The camera shots are so well done, the quality is peak, and everything about this is awesome!!!
Glad you liked it! Lots of work goes into these :)
Thanks!
Thank you!
Thank u for doing these videos,very educational,I can understand pilots being a little complacent for long flights but they should've noticed something was wrong even tho everything happened in just 4 minutes,horrifying way to go for everyone on board.
I hate how stories like this go so unnoticed in world media all because it’s not the US or Russia or UK etc. prayers to the families of all that were lost in this avoidable tragedy 🙏🏼💙
Thanks for covering this one, I haven't seen anyone else making a video about this particular accident, so it's an additional asset. Great animation and high standards delivered as always 🌟 And now back to watching, pozdrawiam :)
Glad you liked it :)
Random TH-cam recommendation I immediately subbed to your channel. Excellent content, great graphics and narration.
Welcome! Much more coming :)
In a heck load of these video's I'm always amazed at the fact that pilots, stewards, passenger's never realize that they are on an angle. I mean you have an internal balance surely they can feel a banking turn. I imagine it feels like a direction change when coming in for approach to land. Or leveling out after take off.
Well, the passengers and stewardesses certainly can feel the bank angle. But they assume there's a reason for it.
The fact the pilot and copilot could NOT tell which way they were banking, let alone that they were banking, indicates they were impaired during takeoff, probably due to substance abuse issues. Also would explain why they never even looked at the instrumentation. It's likely they were already well stewed for a long flight, and just expected auto pilot to do everything for them.
Thank you, Green Dot Aviation. It's a pleasure to listen to your balanced, clear voice. Not to mention the content!
very nice combination of footage across sims! appreciate the attention brought to using the right flight deck :)
Greta video as always, but I wouldn't want this guy at the front of my plane. What ever happened to monitor your instruments and trust your instruments? Crazy!
You don't want a utility operator in the cockpit. You want trained competent pilots who actually master the art of manually flying an airplane and who understands the art of monitoring the airplane's instruments and who are able to interpret what the instruments are telling the pilot.
Another amazing informative, intelligent, and unbiased video. Pure incompetentance, a completely avoidable accident.
Awesome video as always, keep up the great work! ^^
Thanks! 😄
You are simply the best TH-cam channel on this topic. Thank you for the great content you provide us with.
Very kind of you to say!
Agreed.
The airlines I flew for always trained us to avoid V/S mode and use Level Change instead - except certain uses during an approach. V/S will ignore speed even though selecting V/S _causes_ "MCP Speed" to engage.
The crew SERIOUSLY needed to watch the power. Throttle position AND the indicators. And the speed...
So sad that they all died for something so avoidable.
This documentary is very much detailed and correct, I enjoyed every bit of information you have shared with us. Great work, keep it up👍
This is very sad. Hope the family of the victims can cope with their lost
Thank you for your videos! I use them to improve my english and it helps a lot to watch them
From a pilot in Indonesia, this would look visually perfect if not for the aircraft being too clean. A typical Sriwijaya aircraft is a filthy beast
Makes you realize that when you get on the plane, you trust SO many different people did and are doing their job mindfully and skillfully. Takes lots of trust
Absolutely love the quality and effort put into these videos, you are without a doubt my favorite air crash investigation youtuber.
I admire the fact that you are touching on an air-crash that has barely been covered yet, I would love if you could stick to this format. I say that because a-lot of air-crash investigation youtubers cover the same stories, although it’s always interesting to see another perspective, I can only see so many videos of air france 447 and others before it gets repetitive, so please keep up the good work.
Amazing work, I have watched every vid on this channel and for sure will continue to do so. Keep up the excellent work.
Much appreciated!
It's good to hear that all pilots were reminded that they should actually fly the planes after this tragedy!
WOW those graphics! Thanks for the video
Is it me or there is some sort of bizarre accident involving an airliner in Indonesia almost once every 3 years. I have friends that live in different parts of the country but I'm genuinely nervous to go there as I'd need to fly between places to visit them.
Yeah, i searched Indonesian plane crashes starting from 2021 and counting 3 yrs back and that seams to be kinda true military and commercial, I counted back to 2009 even
Take Garuda and City Link, they’re Indonesian flag airlines, while you are in Indonesia.
It’s not just you . I wouldn’t either
i wouldnt go
It's amazing how many plane accidents Have happened when in auto pilot and a captain not monitoring anything its doing. One crash happened when a captain didn't even KNOW the plane was IN autopilot. He FOUGHT the autopilot and crashed, not realizing he was fighting it even though a LIGHT showed it was on autopilot.
Mind blowing.
Many times they hyper focus on ONE thing and ignore all else when stress levels are up during times like this. They train not to do this, but it's hard to overcome what is hardwired into our DNA.
One crash I read about a pilot was so hyper focused on one issue he could NOT focus on something so easily fixable to save the plane....how easy was it to notice?.....the plane system was SCREAMING what the issue was and the pilot completely ignored it.
Brains under stress are a trip.
I've learned from playing Microsoft Flight Simulator that an improperly configured autopilot can literally crash the plane. It sucks that there aren't more preventative measures in place for a bad autopilot...
A malfunctioning autopilot isn't the problem.
The problem is, the people supposed to be monitoring the situation were not capable of flying the plane other than relying on the autopilot.
When "bank angle" is announced, the first thing the pilot should check is his instruments. He didn't even do that, he just yanked the stick wildly and turned the airplane on it's side.
No surprises from Indonesia, always happen. Plane crashes & most time LION AIR occurred due to the irresponsible owner(s) of the lion air but this time with Sriwijaya happened due to those irresponsible pilots.
Regardless the hours of travelling the pilots MUST ALWAYS check the systems frequently when they set the system onto Auto Mode, don't just left & trust the auto pilot itself flying/control the flight, especially they know that the boeing is old & probably should not be used at all.
Thank you for expanding in details of what had happened with this airplane & very informative!
My wife is Indonesian and her Dads business partner was on that flight :(
Great video tho, love your content
I'm sorry to hear that, very unfortunate
It is absolutely incredible that these two pilots were so fully negligent of their duties and responsibilities to the safety of the aircraft and its passengers. What on earth were they thinking? The power levers and the instruments were right under their noses. How could any real pilot miss those discrepancies?
I thought pilots were trained to constantly monitor the EDI. That tool is essential to know how and in what direction the plane is flying. It baffles me how this can be ignored.
Ikr, I’d probably be a better pilot than both of them if i had the training 💀
@@Anonymous-sv4xj what an egotistical thing to say
@@antcantcook960 anyone with a sound mind can be better than both of them with proper training. Because of their sheer incompetency, all of them lost their lives even tho it could've been prevented at several stages of this disaster.
@@antcantcook960 🤓
The quality of the videos on this channel is superb!
really like your content, keep it up man! You are the best!
Thank you, plenty more videos coming! 👍
@@GreenDotAviation sounds great! Looking forward to every single one of them :) haha my wife started to watch you too. When i watched one of your videos at the dinner table 🤩
I love these videos because whether intentionally or not they can be treated as a podcast and not actively viewed. Brilliant!
This and many other accidents make me wonder if pilots can either manually fly an aircraft or fully understand the autopilot/computer systems. Too many components that involve people, systems, and circumstances to ever be truly safe.
I love these vids brother, keep them coming! I would appreciate if you could look into the crash of PIA flight 8303, and potentially make a video on it. I think it would be really interesting to see an in depth breakdown of it.
Thank you, I will be covering this next year 👍
@@GreenDotAviation Awesome!!
@@Capecodham Videos, Burt. Videos.
@@Capecodham I don't know about Temoor, but I usually manage an extra stroke and sometimes 2 for scratching my nuts... You should consider all the time savings from Doc's (minus "tor") and "alphabet soup" instead of trying to remember a specific governmental agency!!! ;o)
Problem with pia 8303 is that the final report still isn't out
I love the forensic style breakdown of how these accidents happen. Love this channel … I fly a lot but it’s clear I might be on borrowed time . Human error sure seems to be the number 1 factor in these scenarios. Why are pilots not flying their planes? So much automation that they lose their abilities it seems. Condolences to the families affected in this tragedy
Sat on the toilet eating some spaghetti and watching a new green dot doc. Lifes good
Or
@@philliphall5198 shush it phil. If i wanted any lip from you I'd have taken my drawers off
Ur videos r very insightful and at par with full budget documentaries.....learnt a lot frm ur videos abt the technical aspects of aircrafts....
I'm glad!
Wtf were they monitoring then, literally everything was showing them something was wrong despite the sensor issues. This is so sad how this could have been avoided