I have a couple of thoughts on this. First is I don't mind having some kind of compensation scheme. It stops the bottom end of the ladder getting turned into training camps. Furthermore this was brought in with the hopes that good players would filter to bad clubs for a pay increase. Turns out it's become a way for good clubs to take good players when they run out of picks to trade (usually because they traded them for a star already). I'm ok with bad clubs getting overs and good clubs getting unders by factoring ladder position because bad clubs can least afford the loss. Good clubs will manage. But.... Something has to be done about the blatant manipulation. Look at the Joe Danaher trade. Essendon got a first rounder for Joe's deal. Half a season later Joe gets more years added. You can't tell me the trade didn't include that free agency pick. It's giving licence for teams to trade with picks that don't exist Then there is the problem that these picks are diluting the draft for all the other clubs that didn't get a pick or player
The current system is to protect crap clubs from losing their players to good clubs. The compensation pick goes straight after your current pick. So lower on the ladder, better compensation. That's why buddy was pick 19, he was leaving a top team. I can definitely see why Geelong who live permanently at the top of the ladder would have a big problem with it.
compensation should be scraped, if clubs over a period of time are negatively affected from losing players then they can get compo but not straight away and given targeted assistance for that particular clubs needs. not picks for everyone. i think Bartel said/ asked how do we stop top clubs picking the eyes of bottom clubs. but we have seen a lot of lower clubs pick up the free agents not just the big clubs, rarely is it the top clubs getting the big free agents. Mckay to dons, not a Top club Battel to hawks made the finals for the first time in what half a decade. cummings to the crows a basket case of a club since 2017 Perryman to the pies, we should call them a top club but they did finish 9th. that not to mention that the teams losing a free agent get penalised if they pick a free agent up .
It's all about money and picks. Never have I seen in 50 years the amount of greed and lack of commitment from players. They don't care who they play for now. It's all about how much money they can make.
Ngl I'm with Kane on this one, if the club can't give them enough of a reason to stay after 8 years then it's fair game. A player isn't staying for 8 years and leaving for no reason. Look at all the players at the lions like clug and berry staying. Both could've left for far more money but stayed because the club gave them more reasons to stay
Maybe change the free agency from 8 years to 4 or 6 years because 8 years is way too long to wait for someone to be a free agent. A get rid of father son and academies all together or B each Club has their own Zones and have their own academies and no draft takes place players just get signed up in academies and if it’s option A make it you can trade picks more years into the future so it’s not completely impossible to get a player you badly want into a club that even involves trading for a player that’s already got picked by someone else on draft night.Draft night would be far more exciting if they bought that in and bring in draft lottery so it stops teams tanking and forgot to mention mid season trading should be in it too
A big driver in the compensation system that people miss is that AFL players have to consent to being traded, and this can only happen in the trade period. It is not apples-to-apples comparing free agency in other spprts since often if a player is about to become a UFA and will likely walk, the team can trade them with little restriction during the season to at least get something back - some 'compensation' if you will. The AFL system has a way to go, but it's important to keep that in mind.
Scrap the draft, make it a national competition with relegation with no salary cap. This will make the game take off. It’s now a corporate mess that won’t compete with the NBA and European football.
You could have gone a step further and mentioned what this does to team that are trying to rebuild. Throwing in these compensation picks means clubs that have bottomed out and are looking to draft in young talent, are seeing their picks kicked further and further down the line. When you throw in father/son and academy picks, it's never been harder to rebuild. People will say these clubs need to split their picks to get more kids into a club, but in a few years time, will question why that club doesn't have any top end talent. The draft is sham. It is so compromised and benefits the North East of Australia something cruel.
To be fair the afl is actually consistent and on compensation. Its got nothing to do with the quality of the player, it's all about what the club they're going to pays for them. If a club like the bombers pays mkay nearly a mil thats on them. Although the system they use itself sucks hahaha
“Andrew Bassett complained about draft inequity but I don’t see him complaining about his club getting way overs” Mate, you do understand that’s one of the inequities that he’s complaining about right? That, father son’s and academy picks are all rubbish
Btw saying “I don’t see him complaining when HE benefits from it” is admitting that there is inequities in the draft. A great man once said “Don’t hate the player, hate the game”
he wasn't saying they are rubbish. he was saying the system was designed to favour the northern clubs and wealthier clubs. where there is a case for the northern clubs having a design to assist them. there is a valid reason for this. the afl is trying to grow the sport in different region, particularly a region that has historically been anti-AFL. so from low to zero fan base it takes time to build that and also build a competitive team. i think that is fair and better for our sport. but its completely rubbish to say it is designed to favour the wealthy clubs. he wasn't only saying its rubbish he was saying it was designed to help wealthier clubs at saints expense and that they were just meant to make up the numbers.
@@joshhowie7657 you are correct and I don’t disagree with you. My comment(s) were to put what Bassett said in very simple terms as I found it weird this content creator had taken shots at the only very vocal club president in regards to the inequities he himself complained about later in the video.
I have a couple of thoughts on this.
First is I don't mind having some kind of compensation scheme. It stops the bottom end of the ladder getting turned into training camps. Furthermore this was brought in with the hopes that good players would filter to bad clubs for a pay increase. Turns out it's become a way for good clubs to take good players when they run out of picks to trade (usually because they traded them for a star already). I'm ok with bad clubs getting overs and good clubs getting unders by factoring ladder position because bad clubs can least afford the loss. Good clubs will manage.
But.... Something has to be done about the blatant manipulation. Look at the Joe Danaher trade. Essendon got a first rounder for Joe's deal. Half a season later Joe gets more years added. You can't tell me the trade didn't include that free agency pick. It's giving licence for teams to trade with picks that don't exist
Then there is the problem that these picks are diluting the draft for all the other clubs that didn't get a pick or player
Cumming the best player of the 3 I would've thought, Pick 21 was the least bizarre
The current system is to protect crap clubs from losing their players to good clubs. The compensation pick goes straight after your current pick. So lower on the ladder, better compensation. That's why buddy was pick 19, he was leaving a top team.
I can definitely see why Geelong who live permanently at the top of the ladder would have a big problem with it.
Yeah..I agree, free agency is crazy-too much $$$ & huge contracts for players that are mid kevel tier.
I go for Collingwood and wasn't keen on Perrryman
compensation should be scraped, if clubs over a period of time are negatively affected from losing players then they can get compo but not straight away and given targeted assistance for that particular clubs needs. not picks for everyone. i think Bartel said/ asked how do we stop top clubs picking the eyes of bottom clubs.
but we have seen a lot of lower clubs pick up the free agents not just the big clubs, rarely is it the top clubs getting the big free agents. Mckay to dons, not a Top club Battel to hawks made the finals for the first time in what half a decade. cummings to the crows a basket case of a club since 2017 Perryman to the pies, we should call them a top club but they did finish 9th. that not to mention that the teams losing a free agent get penalised if they pick a free agent up .
It's all about money and picks. Never have I seen in 50 years the amount of greed and lack of commitment from players. They don't care who they play for now. It's all about how much money they can make.
Yep. Totally overpaid, greedy narcissists, most of them … 😵
Ngl I'm with Kane on this one, if the club can't give them enough of a reason to stay after 8 years then it's fair game. A player isn't staying for 8 years and leaving for no reason. Look at all the players at the lions like clug and berry staying. Both could've left for far more money but stayed because the club gave them more reasons to stay
Maybe change the free agency from 8 years to 4 or 6 years because 8 years is way too long to wait for someone to be a free agent. A get rid of father son and academies all together or B each Club has their own Zones and have their own academies and no draft takes place players just get signed up in academies and if it’s option A make it you can trade picks more years into the future so it’s not completely impossible to get a player you badly want into a club that even involves trading for a player that’s already got picked by someone else on draft night.Draft night would be far more exciting if they bought that in and bring in draft lottery so it stops teams tanking and forgot to mention mid season trading should be in it too
get rid of compensation, if you can't create an environment where talent wants to stay you should be rewarded for it
A big driver in the compensation system that people miss is that AFL players have to consent to being traded, and this can only happen in the trade period. It is not apples-to-apples comparing free agency in other spprts since often if a player is about to become a UFA and will likely walk, the team can trade them with little restriction during the season to at least get something back - some 'compensation' if you will. The AFL system has a way to go, but it's important to keep that in mind.
Scrap the draft, make it a national competition with relegation with no salary cap. This will make the game take off. It’s now a corporate mess that won’t compete with the NBA and European football.
You could have gone a step further and mentioned what this does to team that are trying to rebuild.
Throwing in these compensation picks means clubs that have bottomed out and are looking to draft in young talent, are seeing their picks kicked further and further down the line. When you throw in father/son and academy picks, it's never been harder to rebuild.
People will say these clubs need to split their picks to get more kids into a club, but in a few years time, will question why that club doesn't have any top end talent.
The draft is sham. It is so compromised and benefits the North East of Australia something cruel.
The restricted free agent is an oxymoron. How can a player be called a "free agent" if he's restricted in any way?!? Either he's free or he's not..
I have never liked free agency, It defeats the purpose of equalisation
To be fair the afl is actually consistent and on compensation. Its got nothing to do with the quality of the player, it's all about what the club they're going to pays for them. If a club like the bombers pays mkay nearly a mil thats on them. Although the system they use itself sucks hahaha
why is the AFL giving GWS and St Kilda compensation for their players leaving 😒
They do for any unrestricted free agent, the system is broken but its not random
The ironic thing is the AFL gave them compensation to get those players in the first place😂
There shouldn't be any compensation at all.
clubs shouldnt get compensation, then there isnt a problem
“Andrew Bassett complained about draft inequity but I don’t see him complaining about his club getting way overs” Mate, you do understand that’s one of the inequities that he’s complaining about right? That, father son’s and academy picks are all rubbish
Btw saying “I don’t see him complaining when HE benefits from it” is admitting that there is inequities in the draft. A great man once said “Don’t hate the player, hate the game”
he wasn't saying they are rubbish. he was saying the system was designed to favour the northern clubs and wealthier clubs. where there is a case for the northern clubs having a design to assist them. there is a valid reason for this. the afl is trying to grow the sport in different region, particularly a region that has historically been anti-AFL. so from low to zero fan base it takes time to build that and also build a competitive team. i think that is fair and better for our sport.
but its completely rubbish to say it is designed to favour the wealthy clubs.
he wasn't only saying its rubbish he was saying it was designed to help wealthier clubs at saints expense and that they were just meant to make up the numbers.
@@joshhowie7657 you are correct and I don’t disagree with you. My comment(s) were to put what Bassett said in very simple terms as I found it weird this content creator had taken shots at the only very vocal club president in regards to the inequities he himself complained about later in the video.
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