Chris Scott was out coached by Fagan, there is no doubt that. To lose your ruckman early and be behind by so much needed strategic changes which Scott has no counter. Well done Brisbane and the better coached team won.
he clearly was only talking about mannagh and just said what he was trying to say wrong. being deliberately dense to insult someone is just sad mate. grow up.
@@Bedurchens Yeah they don't come up with plans. Four prelims in 5 years. Scott is a great coach but I don't think he's the master tactician everyone thinks he is, there have been more successful coaches with more imperious teams. The Lions have won 4 of their past 10 against the Cats, so Geelong has the slight edge but let's not pretend Fagan doesn't know how to coach and doesn't know how to beat the Cats.
At the end of each season there should be a panel that analyses all of the predictions, criticisms and “ expertise” of all of these highly paid commentators. The truth is, most of them get it completely wrong but there’s nobody to hold them accountable.
Kingy was saying brisbane should sack fagan and go for chris scott not long ago, he's had it out for fagan all year. Saying their window is over for the last two years (despite getting a lot younger and still being as good if not better). He's had it out for brisbane for years, no idea how people are just noticing it. Apparently kingsley coached amazingly despite only having a good half and fagan coached terribly because they had a bad half, only difference being Fagan won....
@@DowSimmons23 every top 4 list shouldve won one arguable.. They are hard to win, fagan as a coach has kept them up there for longer than basically anyone in the last 5 years
@@Tosicc567 Kingy was correct, Robbo is like a child at times and good to see someone calling him out. I'm a Lions supporter but can admit the truth. Kingsley's coaching was on point - his players let the side down and Lions players decided to play running football, take on the game, and win some contests. He's correct, we won so move on. If Lions give the Cats a 8+ goal start, we will never run it down, they are too professionally drilled for that to happen.
@@MartyScrogings So fagan doesnt get credit for winning but kingsley gets more credit for losing? Kingsley coached as well as Fagan did, a half of football. Difference is Fagan came back, which is harder to do than play the first half well and crap the second half. Kingy has been going on about Fagan for two years, he straight up just doesnt like him. The lions coverage in the media goes like this, they win and more gets said about the losing team and how fagan is underperforming somehow. When they lose once again it goes on fagan. He cant catch a break
@@MartyScrogings Kingsley said himself earlier in the season defending inside 50s and teams getting a run on was a weakness for the Giants. You argument can't be something generic like the Lions won because they "decided to play running football". The Lions piled on 11 goals in the second half, many of which Giants players weren't able to apply good enough defensive pressure. Kingsley was unable to stem the bleeding with his coaching moves and his players lost their heads. That's not good coaching. Fagan left Payne on Hogan, rather than move Andrews, who's key to their intercepts and attack from defence, and Payne had a much better second half. He moved Ashcroft on ball and he started turning the tide with clearances and dominated, he made sure Daniher was left one out in the forward line, and Joe won them the match. Ah Chee did an incredible job on Whitfield and Berry played an outstanding role, while Zorko was freed up in more attacking positions and worked his way really well back into the contest. I'm sure Fagan will admit he can't afford to give up an eight-goal lead again but you can't say the moves he made and match ups didn't play a big role in the Lions winning the game. Making 4 out of 5 prelims is an incredible coaching achievement, they're not easy to make, just ask the Dogs and Cats, who missed the finals entirely in two seasons.
King is useless when it comes to analysing Brisbane. Has a clear bias against them, doesn't rate Fages doesn't rate Brisbane and gets upset year on year when Brisbane make him look like a fool. Example right here is Hogan kicking 4 goals on Paine. Joe kicked 4 on Taylor, who King has said is one of the best defenders in the comp, yet he focuses on Hogan's 4 against Paine instead of Joe's 4 that kicked on Taylor, not to mention his big contested mark at the end, Hogan didn't do anything close to that.
Nah King use’s champion data to form him opinions…I like Fagan but Brisbane has had the most stacked list for the past 4 yrs and delivered no flags … Also What other manager plays Hipwood week in week out 😂
Kingy (#1 Flog ) loving to see you chew on this during next week , Talks like Lions going to lose by 10 goals . Given Lions beat Cats at the G he has to be on board now
King just doesn’t get Fagan. Fagan is a relationship coach. The reason King failed as an assistant coach is because he could not develop positive relationships with the players. Fagan premierships as a coach: 1 King premierships as a coach: 0
Kingy I reckon has a bias against the more nurturing style of coaching- The new era of leaders that create those intangible differences he can’t analyse by overthinking. Fages often will keep it simple and focus on the psyche of the team- Love it! Go lions
Just gotta laugh at these commentators being expert coaches except 90% of them have never coached but like to think they are expert coaches themselves.
David King has had an agenda against Fagan all year. I''m not sure why. The players love Fages. I love Giants, but you can't call it a Kingsley masterclass for one half of footy. They've had a trend of falling away in games. Somethings not right. They did it the week before against Swans too. Straight sets exit.
Listen to the commentry of any of the ex coaches (or even current in the case of Alistair Clarkson) and they'll hold a different view of both of the coaches mentioned here. King is getting super defensive here and I'm glad slobbo called him out on it
Kingy talks a lot of crap at times. He makes silly comments like there's no way Freemantel will miss finals in last home and away game. Then always says move on.
So much for your gobbledygook…. Brisbane just showed team effort beats a team that relays on champions… he will spend the next week saying he predicted this!
Watch King double track, would like to see where he ranks as football predictions..these guys have one thing going for em, they can talk underwater and then come up with excuses..and people pay these talking heads.
Coaching clearly makes no difference when you consider all 18 teams whenever they play each other they have the same number of wins as losses. It is completely even.
2022 finals ring a bell? More recently he was best on ground vs the pies and Freo, and top 3 against crows and bombers. The man IS unstoppable when fit and firing, even at 34.
Nothing wrong with that really is there? I'm a Lions supporter and don't have any real opinion either way on Chris as a coach. As a guy, i think he is great and very personable in all our chats - as a coach........
@@pkouls23 I disagree. I am a tigers fan. The cats have a great line up. Max Holmes is amazing. Cameron a superstar. Danger. All round great team. Kolijasnee also a gun
We all know David King and Kane Cornes are non stop rubbish talkers . What is surprising is Robbo actually holding king to task for his continuous nonsense. At the end of the day unfortunately people like David King and Kane do nothing but criticise coaches and players and make a living out of just talking rubbish. It’s just the world we live in. Clicks for nonsense
Nothing to do with the above but when should a commentator give up the game and go and get another career? How many wrong picks should a commentator get. There are plenty of others who also have no idea. When do you give the next person a go?
How to turn people off. These commentators talk so much technical language and it is boring. Love how they reflect using one off vision. LOL. He says " we are watching the game in real time and cant sit and see what happens and give a review All footy shows do this and it is so annoying . What did the guy actually say ?
Yep, seeing this confirms Kingy is a flog. Will never rate anything he says ever again. Watching Joey cringe as Kingy ranted on, you can see he recognises that DK is a DH.
It's more GWS lost that game than Brisbane winning it. GWS tried icing the game in the last quarter with 15 mins to play. Until GWS learn to play 4 full quarters they'll achieve nothing. Go Cat's
Kingy has a great footy brain. To back it up he was a exceptional player. So yes ya respect what he says. He is one past player that had the speed to play in today's game. Years before our time. Funny enough , Brisbane and Geelong played a classic preliminary final , great for footy. That was the GF.
Only a premiership can make me believe Fagan has what it takes, kings is just telling you how it is, we have underachieved in the last 4 years from a lions supporter. Kings is 100% correct
The Media particularly Mark Robinson and Caroline Wilson don't criticise Lions Coach Chris Fagan. Brisbane have lost more finals since 2019 than any other team and played in just one Grand Final. Still haven't won a Premiership. Underachieved
brisbane have lost 3 finals by under a kick mate, not to mention 2019-2021 was the building years where the club had very little finals experience, since 2021 brisbane have been 6-2 in finals
Chris Scott was out coached by Fagan, there is no doubt that. To lose your ruckman early and be behind by so much needed strategic changes which Scott has no counter. Well done Brisbane and the better coached team won.
Well done Robbo, King has had vendettas against a few clubs he doesn’t like and is anything but non biased!
Doesn't like Port 😂
Didn’t kningy say lions should replace Fagan with Scott earlier this year if they wanted to win a comp…. This aged well
King can say a lot without saying anything at all
Who would have thought Cameron and Dangerfield would be Geelong’s best players? Is he OK?
he clearly was only talking about mannagh and just said what he was trying to say wrong. being deliberately dense to insult someone is just sad mate. grow up.
Disagree- he is talking about putting a plan in place to stop them as Brisbane don’t necessarily do that. Not that they’re just good players.
@@Bedurchens Yeah they don't come up with plans. Four prelims in 5 years. Scott is a great coach but I don't think he's the master tactician everyone thinks he is, there have been more successful coaches with more imperious teams. The Lions have won 4 of their past 10 against the Cats, so Geelong has the slight edge but let's not pretend Fagan doesn't know how to coach and doesn't know how to beat the Cats.
Someone 5 years ago would have thought that... Man's stuck in the past.
Chris Fagan legend, just gets it done!
At the end of each season there should be a panel that analyses all of the predictions, criticisms and “ expertise” of all of these highly paid commentators. The truth is, most of them get it completely wrong but there’s nobody to hold them accountable.
well said !!! GO LIONS
Kingy was saying brisbane should sack fagan and go for chris scott not long ago, he's had it out for fagan all year. Saying their window is over for the last two years (despite getting a lot younger and still being as good if not better). He's had it out for brisbane for years, no idea how people are just noticing it. Apparently kingsley coached amazingly despite only having a good half and fagan coached terribly because they had a bad half, only difference being Fagan won....
its true though, this list should have won by now
@@DowSimmons23 every top 4 list shouldve won one arguable.. They are hard to win, fagan as a coach has kept them up there for longer than basically anyone in the last 5 years
@@Tosicc567 Kingy was correct, Robbo is like a child at times and good to see someone calling him out. I'm a Lions supporter but can admit the truth. Kingsley's coaching was on point - his players let the side down and Lions players decided to play running football, take on the game, and win some contests. He's correct, we won so move on. If Lions give the Cats a 8+ goal start, we will never run it down, they are too professionally drilled for that to happen.
@@MartyScrogings So fagan doesnt get credit for winning but kingsley gets more credit for losing? Kingsley coached as well as Fagan did, a half of football. Difference is Fagan came back, which is harder to do than play the first half well and crap the second half. Kingy has been going on about Fagan for two years, he straight up just doesnt like him. The lions coverage in the media goes like this, they win and more gets said about the losing team and how fagan is underperforming somehow. When they lose once again it goes on fagan. He cant catch a break
@@MartyScrogings Kingsley said himself earlier in the season defending inside 50s and teams getting a run on was a weakness for the Giants. You argument can't be something generic like the Lions won because they "decided to play running football". The Lions piled on 11 goals in the second half, many of which Giants players weren't able to apply good enough defensive pressure. Kingsley was unable to stem the bleeding with his coaching moves and his players lost their heads. That's not good coaching. Fagan left Payne on Hogan, rather than move Andrews, who's key to their intercepts and attack from defence, and Payne had a much better second half. He moved Ashcroft on ball and he started turning the tide with clearances and dominated, he made sure Daniher was left one out in the forward line, and Joe won them the match. Ah Chee did an incredible job on Whitfield and Berry played an outstanding role, while Zorko was freed up in more attacking positions and worked his way really well back into the contest. I'm sure Fagan will admit he can't afford to give up an eight-goal lead again but you can't say the moves he made and match ups didn't play a big role in the Lions winning the game. Making 4 out of 5 prelims is an incredible coaching achievement, they're not easy to make, just ask the Dogs and Cats, who missed the finals entirely in two seasons.
31st Oct and it hilarious listening to these “experts.”
“So be it” - David king
🦁 🏆
" you can coach brilliantly and lose , you can coach poorly and win " Wanted to highlight that statement . WTF .🤔
Why did you want too?
It’s pretty obvious, and true.
King is a gronk. 🤡
@@peterking7165 What happened on GF Day , did Chris Fagan coach poorly , or did John Longmire coach brilliantly ???
What an incredibly insane thing to say 😂
This aged well
King is a cooker…constantly sniping at Brisbane and Fagan…King is a literal spud 🥔
Matthew Lloyd is a little bit the same
King is a 🥔
@@DunningKrugerJnrnah I find Lloyd fair. I’m a lions fan btw. King has had it in for Fagan forever
King was saying sack Fagan not long ago 🤣🤣🤣
Well done Robbo for calling out King’s vendetta…it’s obvious to all and has become so bad that it is now part of the news
King is useless when it comes to analysing Brisbane. Has a clear bias against them, doesn't rate Fages doesn't rate Brisbane and gets upset year on year when Brisbane make him look like a fool. Example right here is Hogan kicking 4 goals on Paine. Joe kicked 4 on Taylor, who King has said is one of the best defenders in the comp, yet he focuses on Hogan's 4 against Paine instead of Joe's 4 that kicked on Taylor, not to mention his big contested mark at the end, Hogan didn't do anything close to that.
Salty
@@andrewrogers5962 what's the score gonna be?
@@markmcnally6978 nah I really couldn't care just telling it like it is.
@@andrewrogers5962dickhead
Nah King use’s champion data to form him opinions…I like Fagan but Brisbane has had the most stacked list for the past 4 yrs and delivered no flags …
Also
What other manager plays Hipwood week in week out 😂
Kingy (#1 Flog ) loving to see you chew on this during next week , Talks like Lions going to lose by 10 goals . Given Lions beat Cats at the G he has to be on board now
he really hates the lions
King you were a crap player and an even worse armchair expert.
I’m not a king fan but he wasn’t a crap player
King just doesn’t get Fagan. Fagan is a relationship coach. The reason King failed as an assistant coach is because he could not develop positive relationships with the players.
Fagan premierships as a coach: 1
King premierships as a coach: 0
Kingy I reckon has a bias against the more nurturing style of coaching- The new era of leaders that create those intangible differences he can’t analyse by overthinking. Fages often will keep it simple and focus on the psyche of the team- Love it! Go lions
yep, i think he does - and so do i. Too much 'nurturing' of adults in all aspects of modern life.
Remind me never to listen to David King and his opinion on the current state of AFL again.
Just gotta laugh at these commentators being expert coaches except 90% of them have never coached but like to think they are expert coaches themselves.
David King has had an agenda against Fagan all year. I''m not sure why. The players love Fages. I love Giants, but you can't call it a Kingsley masterclass for one half of footy. They've had a trend of falling away in games. Somethings not right. They did it the week before against Swans too. Straight sets exit.
He’s also had an agenda against Port ever since JHF left the kangaroos
Listen to the commentry of any of the ex coaches (or even current in the case of Alistair Clarkson) and they'll hold a different view of both of the coaches mentioned here. King is getting super defensive here and I'm glad slobbo called him out on it
That's pretty low statement, even from Slobbo
Robbo was right about King
King is a complete flog!! Always hating on the Lions!
Kingy talks a lot of crap at times. He makes silly comments like there's no way Freemantel will miss finals in last home and away game. Then always says move on.
King has a head only a mother could love.
Typical Melbourne can't get it it's a national comp
Kingy a bit rough with robbo I think
So much for your gobbledygook…. Brisbane just showed team effort beats a team that relays on champions… he will spend the next week saying he predicted this!
I don't rate Mr stats man King as an Analyst. He states the obvious and talks jibbajabba
Time kingy got a new job
you are a genuine fucking potato King
Two of the great minds of football going at it, while Joey and Gerard quietly sit there eating popcorn
Dangerfield and Cameron weren't exactly 4th round draft picks.
Yeah, when you've actually coached an afl team. Then, criticise coaches.
ignore the cheerleaders. King flip-flops every week. He and Kane would struggle in the coaches box. They're shock jocks
King was an assistant coach under Terry Wallace for Richmond lol. Feel free to criticise Kingy. He doesn't have great track record.
@@magicjohnson3121right you are mate, lasted 2 season under Terry Wallace and was given the flick. And nobody else gave him a gig after that
Kingy didnt seem to mind Brisbane when he fraudulently bet on their Rising Star winner..
I've got a long enough memory for that one 😂
He’s exactly the same regarding the Swans, biased against them at every turn. I do my best to mute the sound when he speaks.
Watch King double track, would like to see where he ranks as football predictions..these guys have one thing going for em, they can talk underwater and then come up with excuses..and people pay these talking heads.
King flip-flop every week and within games. Everyone sees it lol.
Coaching clearly makes no difference when you consider all 18 teams whenever they play each other they have the same number of wins as losses. It is completely even.
Dangerfield has one good game, against kids and this guy talks like they are unstoppable 😂
2022 finals ring a bell? More recently he was best on ground vs the pies and Freo, and top 3 against crows and bombers. The man IS unstoppable when fit and firing, even at 34.
@@alborzajeli768 2022 is a long time ago, especially when a player is 34 and banged up …
@@alborzajeli768nah mate. He is stoppable and just got stopped 👊
@@alborzajeli768 he is washed mate
King needs to shutup
Yep,King definitely has it in for Fagan - never said but often implied - probably cos he's from Tassie 😂😅
Nothing wrong with that really is there? I'm a Lions supporter and don't have any real opinion either way on Chris as a coach. As a guy, i think he is great and very personable in all our chats - as a coach........
I hear kingy defending and boasting Geelong in my nightmares
What do they do with Cam Rayner?
King Mr. Facts and stat's has had it out for pagan all year he's a complete flog
Wasn't Kingy the Coach of the Year for the last 20 years? Oh wait...he's only "King" by name.
Both Port & Cats have played their Grand Finals they will come out all guns blazing of course but will run out of legs in the end this weekend.
@@paulweston285 mate you were spot on
@@DrShred24 As always !
@@DrShred24 Stay tuned for next weeks predictions including exact scores & Norm Smith medalist
His mouth is bigger than his head.
His head is very big. Lol.
Geelong are a much stronger side than Brisbane
@@patkelly6349not talent wise. Structurally no doubt geelong are superior.
@@pkouls23 I disagree. I am a tigers fan. The cats have a great line up. Max Holmes is amazing. Cameron a superstar. Danger. All round great team. Kolijasnee also a gun
Pretty well impossible
Kingy looks like Lyncx the Sontaron of Dr Who ,😂😂😂😂😂
We all know David King and Kane Cornes are non stop rubbish talkers . What is surprising is Robbo actually holding king to task for his continuous nonsense.
At the end of the day unfortunately people like David King and Kane do nothing but criticise coaches and players and make a living out of just talking rubbish.
It’s just the world we live in. Clicks for nonsense
Sock puppets
Actually i think Robbo talks more nonsense than those two.
@@MartyScrogings close
@@MartyScrogings How does Slobbo think that fluff under his lip looks good ?
I have a vegan vendetta.
Kingy's draft claims re Geelong are distorted by Free Agency. His rating of Chris Scott as a coach is very flawed.
Geelong are a different best now and they are miles in front of brusbane. LOL! Yeah sure thing kingy. Look how it turned out mate 🏆🦁
Nothing to do with the above but when should a commentator give up the game and go and get another career? How many wrong picks should a commentator get. There are plenty of others who also have no idea. When do you give the next person a go?
King and Robinson both belong in a toolkit. I get better insights off my next door neighbour.
Frustrated experts by the most recent AFL results ?
People who can’t do, criticise.
Sums up people like David king and Cornes perfectly
Like Kane or not he’s normally spot on.
King agreed but Kane is the only one to say things as they are - without sugarcoating it
@@wadedixon6780 not really, but his cheerleaders will say that
@@jimmyrobinson5699 Kane: Ginni shouldn't be playing with long sleeves
His cheerleaders: eVeRytHinG kAnE sAyS iS sPoT oN
@@imalwaysright Ginnis msg was worth 3 goals to PA
Instant mash footy IQ
King,' bias is on the nose. He has no tv appeal. Get him off.
Robbo being floggo as usual 🙄
No idea🤣
Robbo keeping him honest KINGSLEY LET BRISBANE GET 5 GOALS IN A FUKING ROW....MENTALLY WEAK AS A TEAM, Kingey was a plodder and thinks like one
Loved Robbo calling out that opinionated sook Kingy. He certainly doesn’t rate the Swans, either does Montagna or Whately … 😂
How to turn people off. These commentators talk so much technical language and it is boring. Love how they reflect using one off vision. LOL. He says " we are watching the game in real time and cant sit and see what happens and give a review All footy shows do this and it is so annoying . What did the guy actually say ?
Kingy the court jester at it again
David king of the tossers
Yep, seeing this confirms Kingy is a flog. Will never rate anything he says ever again. Watching Joey cringe as Kingy ranted on, you can see he recognises that DK is a DH.
Who won.
King.....bla bla bla.
It's more GWS lost that game than Brisbane winning it. GWS tried icing the game in the last quarter with 15 mins to play. Until GWS learn to play 4 full quarters they'll achieve nothing. Go Cat's
@@bennyrussell5941 flog
You have to kick goals to win a game, which is what Brissie did. Of course, GWS are also notorious finals chokers … 😂
Snipes
Doesn't matter Lions won
Robby the groggo he’s such a nobb
Slobbo
Kingy put the gloves on mate and king hit DRUNKO 👊 oops I meant GROGGO 🤣🤣🤣
Nah I’d say it was the other way round champ
@@DrShred24 Nah ?? How fucking old are you mate ? And I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions including children 🤷🏻♂️
Kingy has a great footy brain. To back it up he was a exceptional player. So yes ya respect what he says.
He is one past player that had the speed to play in today's game.
Years before our time. Funny enough , Brisbane and Geelong played a classic preliminary final , great for footy. That was the GF.
Only a premiership can make me believe Fagan has what it takes, kings is just telling you how it is, we have underachieved in the last 4 years from a lions supporter. Kings is 100% correct
That's a relative statement - I'm a Bomber's supporter and I can tell you all about underperforming 😅😂
How? Got them into gf last year
they were a kick away from winning a grand final
The Media particularly Mark Robinson and Caroline Wilson
don't criticise Lions Coach Chris Fagan.
Brisbane have lost more finals
since 2019 than any other team and played in just one
Grand Final.
Still haven't won a Premiership.
Underachieved
isn't that Port? Lions made the GF last year and lost by under a goal
@@markneville9723 flog
Yea maybe because they are the only team to be in there 6 consecutive year you spud
brisbane have lost 3 finals by under a kick mate, not to mention 2019-2021 was the building years where the club had very little finals experience, since 2021 brisbane have been 6-2 in finals
N.daicos 32 votes p.crips 31 votes l.neil 30 votes celebrate at the main course west melbourne 😂😂❤❤😂😂❤😂😂❤😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Do you have to post the same thing on every fox footy video?
First 4 boxed…
Cripps (not crips)
Daicos (daicos)
L. Neale ( not l. neil)
Bont.
Freddy you’re borderline illiterate.
Collingwood premiership twilight or night grand final 2025😂😂❤❤😂😂❤😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
King needs to go next year ihes unless and a bully
Kingy least fages don't make up excuses and playing that many youngsters still getting in primarily final 😊 he doing a great job
They “charge of the light brigade” from stoppage.
So it all goes terribly wrong?