@goshking4331 That's an exaggeration. She's like that until she realizes that Vault Hunting is serious business that can get anyone involved in it killed (Maya's death). There could've been better ways to get that to happen, but what I really didn't get is how quickly she adapted to Maya's power, and considering her track record with learning and discipline, it seems unlikely. The game does hammer in that Ava is a "when push comes to shove" type of person though.
Joltz u should get into a position to write future game/movie stories for Borderlands literally your destiny bro no better person. WITH KEVIN HART AS ROLAND!?!? U guys really thought…? that shi is just nah… like they needed a popular actor as padding??? IDK but wtf bro😕 Roland last I remembered wasn’t a comedian was he guys? Unless I missed something 💀 PS: going to copy and paste this bc want to hear peoples opinions sorry if annoying.
The problem with "reimagining" an established franchise is: A. Casual audiences won't care about the movie to begin with, and B. Fans who _do_ care and _will_ come see it are gonna be pissed off that the lore was vandalized. If you're _gonna_ adapt an IP, adapt it accurately or _don't fucking bother._
Case in point: Moxxi having a southern accent. Yes, in the games, Moxxi _does_ have a southern accent, being one of the Hodunk tribe. She _hides that accent 99.9% of the time in order to hide that she's from the Hodunk tribe._ Now, a fan knows that. A casual viewer who _doesn't_ know that _isn't gonna get what they did by giving her a southern accent._ So don't fuckin' bother doing it, _either way._
This is the thing that bothers me. You wanted to pay a ton of money to create something based on an already very successful franchise...and you just...remove everything that made it auccessful??? Why did you spend all that money, then!!!!???? If you make a good movie that general audiences can understand, then general audiences will enjoy and view it. If you also make it so that the fans who made the franchise successful enjoy it, they will be your hype machine. How do they get this wrong every time?
You can change an ip but you have to be incredibly careful to make sure that what you're changing still makes sense and fits right in with what was there before but you really need the right producing crew who really care about the starting material
The worst part is Gearbox execs were convinced a movie could work thanks to the first Tales from the Borderlands. They had a perfect formula to follow right there, and they didn't. They opted for shortsighted capitalization with cheap easter eggs. Even Tales had a bunch of easter eggs, but rarely (if ever) was it a case of being there for the sake of being there. I remember Randy Pitchford giving an interview and pointing out how a fucking hatch has the Dahl logo and saying (paraphrasing) "that was taken straight from the games!"
Honestly, if they wanted to make something simple as a popcorn flick, they could have just did a straight retelling of Borderlands 1, and it could have worked far better. You get the 4 mains, you're not expected to know any lore. And you just split up the segments of action with some jokey downtime.
Just saw this, at one point in the movie, when they're in Moxxie's bar, there's a can of axe body spray on the counter. I'm not even joking, it's next to Bobby Lee's character.
@@zinivix It's either : A - Someone used it and forgot to put it off the set, with nobody noticing or caring that a WILDLY out of place item is on the set. B - It's a Sponsored Ad badly placed and thought of. In both cases, it's a terrible look.
At this point, it's a mercy. Borderlands has three fun games and a nice spinoff that brings the story to a new genre you wouldn't expect it to work in. That's more than most game franchises can ask for. Considering Wonderland, 3 and New Tales ended up so rough (to put it lightly), combined with the cult of personality falling out from under Randy, and that's not even getting into the other gross mismanagments going on in Gearbox, the company can rot for all I care. The people who made those games great deserve an employer that won't drag them down.
To be honest the series has gone downhill since the last BL2 expansion with every release thereafter being worse. I'm still hoping 4 is good but if the studio is finished, which I doubt, at this point it wouldn't be a great loss.
borderlands 3 was okay but the story was absolute dogshit and tiny tina was also in insult, it could have been such a great game instead they did this pile of shit. also there are other failures like the telltale(not from telltale) game which they also ruined completely, right now, if nothing drastically changes, borderlands 4 is done for
@@Pattern_Noticerwoah woah fucking wag. Claptastic voyage first off. Second....some of the bl2 ( I know the main studio didn't make them) dlc's are also ass
@@I_Am_Angkong Kassandra Nova is an evil siren, they later meet with the old vault hunters, then there is a high action battle with blood and explosions and every character shows their skills. IT IS LITERALLY ALL THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE BORDERLANDS MOVIE WHY GEARBOX WHY?!
@@edgieststalker8141 true, but I don’t think gearbox had that much say about it :/ Just look at the Witcher series, neither the original author or CDPR could make them follow the original story
It’s also crazy that Guardians Of The Galaxy is better Borderlands movie than the actual Borderlands movie that we got all 3 of them in fact are better in terms of the comedy and the action
I remember an interview some of the top gear box staff gave a long time ago about doing a BL movie, and they talked about how it would be difficult because of how precious the franchise was and how they would only do it if it had the perfect cast and perfect script and they had final creative say. Well so much for all of that.
I went and saw it tonight. I went in with no expectations, KNOWING it had a bad rating, KNOWING Cate was just doing it for a paycheck, KNOWING Randy Pitchford got his greasy magic mitts all over the film. And trying so, so hard to ignore all that we know about borderlands as a franchise, treating the film as if it were it's own unique concept with new characters? Awful. Seriously, I thought MARCUS was the most interesting character and best fitting. Which isnt far off from what the franchise is, but this was an especially tactless attempt. Guess they need something for their tax write off.
I knew it was going to be bad when the actress of Tina said that instead of basing her acting on the ORIGINAL CHARACTER FROM THE GAMES she based her acting on Margot's Harley quinn...
I don't even understand how you could make a movie, based on an entire universe and take so little inspiration from it. It's just insulting and shows how they didn't care at all, it was just a way for them to promote their name.
@@theiridiumgamer5225they just thought the borderlands aesthetic would make bajillions of dollars without considering they might have missed the point of their own series lol
You know that this is going to be bad when the only place that your local cinema have chosen to place Borderlands movie poster is men's restroom. Can't even make this thing up
lilith being an "adult ava" oh my god LMFAO. i somehow got this vibe from just the clips from the trailer, but if it was actually like that for the whole movie... oh BOY
They made a fan service movie and took away the fan service imagine if they referenced stuff from the community like if one of them tries to farm for a matching grip
Bl1 was grim and sad, the reason it worked is because of the silent desperation of the world, with little bits of oddly placed humor that worked BECAUSE of the grim and grime. Cowboy bebop is a good analog for a borderlands series, at least the atmosphere and feel. Whatever this is and frankly the story now is not at all what I for one fell in love with all those years ago
Unlike most video game adaptations I thought like Borderlands could translate really easy to a film. The blueprint is already there, part Fury Road, part Guardians of the Galaxy, part Deadpool, whatever just with more gun porn. We're not reinventing the wheel here, Borderlands isnt that deep. But this film failed at every single phase of development, except the CG I guess. Really baffling bad management.
That's pretty much what I was thinking. Deadpool+Guardians of the Galaxy+Mad Max. Decent enough Borderlands movie there as long as the gun porn is there and the characters are the same.
I kinda disagree, unless you were to cut a lot of it down, because if you really want to make everything(even if it's just the main story) into a movie it would be like a 4 hours movie(I'm talking about just one game, and it can be any entry of the series)... but well maybe there's a way to cut only to parts that matter and get into something that's closer to 3 hours then it's acceptable? But oh well, I'll say this: if Borderlands ever get another live action, it needs to be a movie, I don't think it can fit as a show series, at least not when talking about main game story. And what I think they should've done since the beginning was to use the universe, and create entire new characters to interact with the universe, but even then I still think, considering this movie, it would probably suck.
@@Cuestrupaster Have you watched Scott pilgrim vs the world? I would expect it to be cut like that. Many characters introduced, screentime is used quickly with lots of expression to show the character. Just that with guns and a mad max pew pew. oh and heaps of dead pool
@@db5094 It's been a while since I watched that movie, I think it's a way of doing, but I'm not sure it would fit in Borderlands theme... but would be better than this for sure.
No shields, lack of focus on the types of guns, no blood and gore, no character build up, I still feel like this can be summed up as: should have been R-rated instead of PG13 and I think it would've done better as a series to slow down the pacing and build everything up
I was in the Barcelona Comic fair a couple months back, and there was group of borderlands Psychos walking around, pointed them out to my friends, and this lady in a suit came rushing over. She asked me that if I wanted a photo with the psychos, I'd have to post an instagram photo saying I was excited for the movie. I told her hell nah, it looks like crap, and she had the gall to ask me why
Better to pose with the characters. Mention it's with the new Borderlands movie coming out and see who promotes it, while promoting that you care about fans giving then pictures. The forced way seems like 1! Makes the movie look like test audiences aren't happy And 2! There should be a deal with the photos. No cosplay person I know of treats it like Only Fans. Did they ask you to purchase tokens?
Reminds me of walking into a grocery store and being asked, "Hey, you want a free Newspaper?" Followed by, "Just talk to me for 15 minutes, gove me all your information and commit to an annual delivery service." ...amd you get this 75 cent newspaper FREE!?!
I watched this with someone else, and being me I'd quite visibly show my frustration with the movie by just trying to rub my eyes to keep myself awake during it all. Part way through, I overheard someone behind me talking to someone else and they said "think of it as its own thing" and that brought me to the epiphany I needed. The biggest problem with the movie, to me, is that they are forcing it in a direction that doesn't feel like Borderlands while trying to jam pack it with as much stuff to feel like Borderlands. When I saw the thresher, me and my friend looker at each other immediately because we both knew that that wasn't the thresher we knew and loved/hated. A great parallel to that idea and problem of "think of it as its own thing" would probably be The Last Jedi, which many very much disliked due to its implications in a series beloved by many from their childhood, where it swept away a lot of the best things about the galaxy and assassinated a beloved character while doing it. It's a real shame, too, because I would be fine with an adjacent film series that played out in a world (or rather universe) that was different from the series IF they treated it with actual respect, which they clearly didn't.
I went into this movie with the expectation that it is a story in the borderlands universe, but an alternate timeline from the games and it really helps stomach a lot of the issues that people have with
Yeah sorry no I actually hate the implication of "think of it as it's own thing" excuse because it is an excuse. The movie was absolutely horrendous even without being borderlands like Walmart brand Guardians of the Galaxy with worse cgi, stunts, and not having an R rating. They chose to attach this plot to a famous IP much like the God awful last jedi and it should be criticized for it. Not that either of those movies could be enjoyed let alone would be made without crutching on their respective IPs
My fav line from the movie is in the Lilith x Tina convo "Atlas is your father, isn't he?" "Yeeees and no" "It wasn't a yes or no question" THEN WHAT WAS IT LILITH
What makes a good Borderlands is when the characters take themselves seriously, and the world-building does not. Roland was a serious, competent soldier, Handsome Jack legitimately felt he was a hero cleansing the planet, Marcus is out to make lots of m money, Tina is a little girl with PTSD hiding behind her mania to avoid dealing with mental health, Mordecai literally goes on a killing rampage when his pet bird gets killed and he cries afterward. Even Claptrap(s) take their job as seriously as they can, and our main Claptrap just wants to be liked. None of the characters would ever turn to the camera after making a generic one-liner, they don't give a passing thought to the fact that every species in the universe has a "midget" form, they are all fully developed real people who just happen to live in a wacky universe. That's what's ruining the stories, characters trying too hard to be wacky
It knew when to take itself serious. The most frustrating thing in all of this is the re-writing of history, I see people constantly accuse 2 of having the same terrible humor as the new ones, when that's not how it was at all. The series is completely dead, the average person cannot see past the garbage for what made it special. Damnit it hurts.
Its funny because people dont realize how serious people got in the story. We find kriegs dialogue funny and quirky but he legitimately wanted to be able to speak normally. Gaige was also dealing with her own shit as well.
So true man, the Pandora itself is true hell, even main characters aren't good (remember trailer song - this ain't no place for no hero) , and the world is crazy not because writers want it to be crazy, but because it CAN'T be normal
I've always thought about this: Borderlands is supossed to be a fucked up place with people trying to do their best to survive, and that's why some wacky Stuff happens It's not a wacky place where sometimes serious Stuff happens.
from the trailers it looks like they just picked big named actors/actresses, selected an IP that doesn’t have a show/film yet, google top 10 facts, then make the film. It looks like nobody who worked on this played any of the games maybe they played BL3 but definitely not 1, 2, presequel, or tales. Borderlands should’ve been a slam dunk film to make but they missed by a fair bit. I’ll be seeing this with friends soon but we’re fans going into this and don’t have high hopes
@@IiiiIiiIllIlim mainly thinking about going to AMC to buy the Popcorn bucket, then im watching Deadpool and Woverine. I love the Claptrap bucket, but I dont care about the Borderlands movie.... and thats kinda sad as a fan of the game.
This franchise had the potential to be the next big space opera like Star Wars or Guardians of the Galaxy, but nope. The creators of this movie hadn’t touched a single Borderlands game
Saw it today. Much better than the extremely low expectations I had. Biggest negatives for me were the placid Kreig character, Tannis who completely lacked the "Insanely Smart" and should have been more neurotic, an almost non-existent antagonist, way too fast a pace to establish almost anything and then they did almost nothing with the vault monster. Things I liked, sets, graphics and it was a BL story pretty true to the series in many ways. Lilith's Infinity, Roland's Maliwan (ln the Psycho tunnels) from BL3, possibly a Beacon, Atlas soldiers using Atlas rifles. The movie was fun but yeah, nothing special. I doubt non-players will understand it at all. PS: there were only 6 people in the theater.
watched it in the movies with the family, only like 5 people there us included i am a off and on player of the borderlands franchise over the years, mother been playing a bit over the last couple of months, and my father has yet to play at all, and we all honestly enjoyed the movie was it the best, no, was it as bad as EVERYONE is saying it is, no, it is a passable movie, as long as you don't try to connect it to the game outside of, "oh i know that character or oh cool its a infinity". i honestly think that is the biggest problem everyone has with it, and im going to be frank with yall, Claptrap was weak at best, jack did what he could, but we all know it could have been so much better also as a fun fact, the movie made my father want to actually try the game now, so plus
Imagine the epic transition there could’ve been how he says they just teleport from one part to the next. And there’s a scene SHOOT ME IN THE FACE. NOT IN THE ARM NOT IN THE LEG IN THE FAAAAAAACEEEEE
And it'll never change. Every popular game will be spat on in movie form at some point. The only "good" movies are the ones that are super average, the rest? Garbage.
I'm convinced the director played up until sanctuary hole and then stopped, asked chat gpt to summarise the plot of borderlands and proceeded to base the rest of the movie of that alone. They wanted to dumb it down for the general public but failed to realise that condensing over 155-190 hours of gameplay into 1hr 45 mins is an impossible task. The only people that were ever going to understand the movie truly were the fans. And they gave us nothing, nothing at all. Just a measly Vladoff infinity pistol reference. No pretzels, no MINION, no no frefunds, no Dr zed stabbing someone with a needle, nothing at all. It failed to reach the general public and failed to reach the fans, ultimately this movie was for nobody. It missed all the marks.
I feel like if they bumped the age rating to at least a 15 and made a TV series, they could've done a lot more with it. The entrie thing definitely seemed rushed :((
The most exciting part of the movie for me is literally the fact it's predicted to lose so much money that GBX will have to make up their losses. Their ego as a company has been gigantic and their arrogance has been unbearable lately so if this movie really does lose as much as it's predicted, they'll have to book their ideas up, stop messing around and make some good Borderlands games again. That, or they'll just release BL2 enhanced. We'll see I suppose
No surprises, frankly. BL's writing has been on a heavy decline for a good while and the series has been held up on its gameplay alone. Changing it to a medium that is just writing, no gameplay, and infamously difficult to adapt from a video game, was doomed to fail.
The writing has arguably never been that good, you were just 12 when you played borderlands 2 and didn’t know any better, like many of us, and now in every playthrough you just skip through as much dialogue as possible, like many of us
@@SaltSpirits Nah, that's just a cope. Sidequests were like that, maybe, but overt jokes and quips were rare outside of Jack, and there were no meta or meme references in the main game of BL1 or 2. BL1 suffered from being unable to deliver a cohesive storyline due to ludonarrative dissonance, delivering story mostly through text between missions that were implied to actually be verbal, leading to a mor eboring overall story where there were not cutscenes. BL2's main plot works with its characters, offering flaws, development, and interesting twists and climaxes. Later games ditched most of that in favor of a bog-standard "hero's journey" progression without adding any depth beyond that, which is why most returning characters seem flanderized and new characters flat. There is no further evidence of BL3's, Wonderlands', and New Tales' writing being worse than that flanderization, where in comparison, BL2 spent its time giving returning characters MORE history, lore, dialogue, and core traits. BL2's writing isn't bad, and if you're just skipping through it all, that's because you heard it 1000 times before, not because it's low quality. Don't attribute your jaded emotions to poor quality instead of overexposure.
@@yourgoodfriend276 Tons of meta and meme references in BL2, they’re just super dated now so not everyone might recognize them as such. Bad Lip Readings quotes, multiple “cool story bro” and “come at me, bro” lines (yes, those were memes at one point) the Double Rainbow meme, “haters gonna hate,” leeroy jenkins, the neil degrade tyson “watch out we’ve got a badass over here” line, shoop da whoop, south park ski instructor, xzibit’s yo dawg, “u mad bro?” “yolo”, dbz “over 9000” wilhelm scream etc. psychos will also reference the rickroll song, etc. and this is all without getting into stuff like weapon descriptions/flavor text even, just audio stuff. it also excludes video game tv and film references that aren’t tied to memes. Vending machines frequently crack jokes about levelling up, gear rarity etc. arguably the entire face mcshooty quest is a meta joke, etc. It’s chock full of the stuff.“I used to be a vault hunter like you, then I took a bullet to the knee.” & “I used to be a Vault Hunter like you, until I founded the Crimson Raiders” bandits scream “Never should’ve come here!” like they do in Skyrim. Crazy Earl has references to the RE4 trader. Sanctuary NPCs mention the gang from Saints Row in passing. There are even marvel and dc references all over the place. Flyboy will say "I'm gonna be the very best, like nobody ever goddamn was!" in one of his pre-recorded messages in The Forge, multiple Minecraft references in Caustic Caverns, name any franchise from before BL2 released and there’s probably a nod to it somewhere. I don’t know where you got the idea that there weren’t meta jokes or memes or that the writers aren’t doing everything they can to break your immersion. I don’t disagree that BL2 is the best written of the series but when you compare it to media as a whole it’s not excellent and I don’t think many of us are genuinely playing these games for the story.
God I love this channel, you have a super human ability to keep generating content about a single game series. So glad you got your tickets free because you really deserve it, I don’t really play borderlands anymore but I’ll still watch every vid. But I hope you don’t ever feel boxed into the game series, I’d watch you play new games if you ever thought about it.
No you got it wrong my guy.. Let me point it out: 10:35 time stamp. Tiny Tina was annoying and announced that she was "Special" the entire movie. Which got REALLY annoying. And her being a clone??.. They messed up her backstory. For a demolition expert being a 13 years old girl, there NEEDED to be more explosive action. (If they seriously didn't make this movie pg13, it would've been more enjoyable. More murder, explosions and blood. Not Unicorns and Rainbows.) Claptrap was... Claptrap.. But Jack Black wasn't good for the voice acting. Look, the animation model for Claptrap was good, don't get me wrong! It's just.. The voice. It really didn't suit poor claptrap. I did like Lilith a bit, as much as Tannis. They were both okay. I didn't expect them to be perfect but they were good enough. I was literally relieved near the end of the movie that Lilith DID have her powers, and not Tiny Tina. (Therefore it would've messed up the entire movie if Tina did have powers and would've made me and my partner, walk out.) Roland.. Look Kevin Hart as Roland wasn't the best of choices. As much as I hate to say this, I prefer caring for the videogame Roland then movie Roland. Sorry but wrong choice of actor. I felt that Krieg was the best for the actors build, yeah, I do see him being treated as a pet throughout the film but he was one of the GOOD ones. They should've went for Krieg's backstory. We didn't even get a lick of Sane Krieg's voice.. I wish we did. I had to say something. Not trying to be mean. But I agree with one thing you said. We won't be expecting a sequel and I hope we don't. The movie was just tolerable enough to watch.
So we got krieg without maya lol, the fact everyone in the raiders did not like krieg but yet he grew on them all because of our beautiful siren maya:(
It truly amazes me how these Hollywood directors and producers, who clearly are talented, have gotten to where they are creating such atrocities. Just like with The Witcher and Halo, all they had to do was stick to the lore and everyone would've loved it. But instead, because people in Hollywood think they're creative and their s**t doesn't stink, they can do whatever they want to the movie, changing what, over time, has developed into an adoring fan base. All because they think their artistic talent is better than the original. They try to compete rather than work within the universe. Fallout is a prime example of what can happen if you don't ruin a beloved franchise with meaningless new additions. To me, it seems a lot of directors and producers are allowed to succumb to the Peter Principle.
Ok the fallout comment They’re also guilty of it literally they think they’re better than Chris avellone They did not follow the trajectory of all the west coast stories and actively misunderstood the setting to a ridiculous degree
Bro the borderlands subreddit kept trying to con everybody into thinking the movie is good meanwhile you have the bl patron saint curb stomping it to hell 😭😭
I think this would have been better formatted to a tv show. My idea was to follow the first game closely in narrative with most additions being character driven and I think following Roland as the primary character and having the other vault hunters being added in as the story progresses would be great. Roland runs into Lilith outside of 9 toes, they run into Mordecai in arid hills, and brick trying to fight the roid rage psycho. 2 episodes max and all characters are there. Then give another side to Steele so we know more of the villain, and the big thing is change is to not have angel present. Have Lilith subtly kinda guide everyone if other characters don’t know where to go or other side characters. Reveal at the end that angel was only speaking to Lilith but speaks to the 4 of them when the destroyer is destroyed. Show the satellite, show a report of steeled death hitting knoxxs desk, roll credits, season 2 next year. Easy
@@elishuster5943 I think having the subtlety of handsome Jack looming from the reveal of angel is a good enough compromise to not have season 2 focus on him so much as to focus on general knoxx and presequel. There’s a way better version of the knoxx dlc and even revolution if we went down the MINAC route. But having the story told chronologically would be better. Have season 2 show the VHs overthrowing atlas, killing knoxx, meeting Athena. Then have them either do robolution or skip it and go straight to presequel. Either that’s or DLCs are a season on their own or they’re skipped, but I think you can really expand on the dlc storylines to make a really cool season. Otherwise do presequel with a better narrative and then season 3 is borderlands 2
@@prequeltrilogy5812 thinking about it more I think that would probably make a better show but the studios would probably want angel to be a character throughout season 1 and reveal Jack at the end of Season 1 because Handsome Jack is such a big ip that they would want to include him
Honestly Krom got more than he deserved. All he did was sit on a gatling turret and spam from a mile away until we inevitably killed him. Of all the boss characters they could have chosen he's easily the most boring. Nine toes would have made a better choice.
I love the borderlands franchise, but i could not force myself to see this movie. As soon as I saw the first trailer, i knew it was going to be our dragonball evolution, damn i want borderlands to make a comeback as a franchise. 😤😮💨
The biggest fail is probably the pg 13 rating borderlands has always been on the darker more mature side of humor before bl3. And also gore guns dark humor all something thats integral to borderlands and its pretty impossible with a pg 13 to keep that integral vibe of borderlands
@@Lorentz_Driver I mean compared to bl3s fart cave yeah it's pretty mature and actually if you look into people with severe psychosis it's actually the type of crap they might say so it's still has a dark undertone
@@Lorentz_Driver congratulations you cherry picked one line, how about we talk about when jack blew bloodwings head off and made a joke about it? Was that too immature for you?
@@Lorentz_Driver”Bruh” takes one line from the game and somehow thinks the commenter is referring to it for maturity. Totally not the extreme gore and dark undertones but noooo “poop train”. Good one! Big smart!
Best way i could describe the movie is it was written by people who have never played the game and chose actors who were actors and no other reason? it was just actors because they were famous and werent chosen to act as characters
Same it didn't hit as hard as dragon's keep but it did cover a good aspect of how Tina was cause she always was a very isolated child and after basically getting to feel like she has a family again of course she will develop abandonment issues especially after the loss of Roland
One thing in the wonderlands game that made me question life was the part where Claptrap gets laid with a few snake women (I think they’re names are The Coiled Sisters) How does Claptrap f*ck?
AVI ARAD has ruined so far... * Borderlands * Daredevil (2003) * The Punisher (2004) * Elektra (2005) * Fantastic Four (2005) * X-Men: The Last Stand * Spider-Man 3 * Bratz * Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance * The Amazing Spider-Man 2 * Ghost in the Shell (2017) * Venom: Let There Be Carnage * Uncharted (2022) * Morbius And now he's gonna ruin... * Kraven the Hunter * Venom: The Last Dance * Legend of Zelda * Naruto As long Arad lives, there's no hope
wait, it was PG-13!?!??! WHAT. The funniest parts of borderlands to me was the blood and gore explosions. And once i got a ps4 i played krieg for about a year straight, so he is one of my favourite parts of the series. I didnt want kevin hart to be in the movie from the beginning. i havent seen it, or finished your video yet, but im already sad
Im just thinking about how many things they could've done differently in this movie. -Have krieg be a caring character but absolutely insane whenever he fights -Make lilith be a lot more light-hearted and crack jokes -Don't make kevin hart roland -Be faithful to the source material in setting, props and characters except for the basic story structure and new locations. I'm absolutely sure that gearbox had little to no influence on this movie because this would be the worst thing they had ever made by a long shot, even worse than Tales 2.
Krieg even said the "The only one who can kill me is me!" thing, but if you don't actually know what Krieg's story is, it's completely random and nonsensical. Like the "I always come back" in the FNAF movie, but even stranger
I got it the perfect metaphor for the borderlands movie. Borderlands movie is borderlands 1 2 and 3 as a 10-year-old's puzzle that has 25 pieces and the director/writer couldn't figure out so he got some scissors cut up the pieces so they fit together how he wanted and ended up a monstrosity
Big actors being used for adaptations is always the sign that this is just a heartless cash grab. Of course, the unknown actor did well as Kreig, he wanted to do right by the character because he had something to lose and wanted to do something right by the character, the others don’t fit their roles at all, but their star power has gotten butts in the seats in the past, so why shouldn’t they hear right?
I feel sorry for any adult that paid to see this PG-13 film while sitting in a theater chair that probably contains hundreds of other peoples fart sharts.
the second i saw the trailer i knew it was going to be bad purely from the cast, the actors arent bad but i feel like not a single one of the actors were a correct choice for their characters specifically for lillith and tannis, havent seen the movie yet but purely from what you just said about pg-13 but i think they just proved what fox tried to do when they wanted deadpool to originally be pg-13 and everyone was like no if you do that the movie will be a complete failure, its a setting that should 100% be ma-15+ bare minimum, probably should be r-18 tbh, especially if they wanted to put krieg in it cause as we all know kriegs story is mega fucked up and not something you could properly show in a movie without it being r-18
Borderlands was never the same after BL3. The franchise lost its soul. The tales from the borderlands sequel, tiny tina's wonderland, and now this movie. All of them don't have the core of what made Borderlands 1 and 2 so good.
Borderlands 1 - TFTBL was so good. It had some minor hiccups along the the way, but everything felt consistent and mysterious (in looks and story) we even had big cliff hangers in the tales and pre sequel endings. But then Borderlands 3 came out and just ruined it all with horrible decisions. All while lacking any of the soul of the previous games. Ever since then they keep just keep making it worse somehow.
Oh wow this is a full video I will definitely check this out later then. I want to see it but I'm not sure yet, I'll check it out after watching your video
Joltz u should get into a position to write future game/movie stories for Borderlands literally your destiny bro no better person. WITH KEVIN HART AS ROLAND!?!? U guys really thought…? that shi is just nah… like they needed a popular actor as padding??? IDK but wtf bro😕 Roland last I remembered wasn’t a comedian was he guys? Unless I missed something 💀 PS: going to copy and paste this bc want to hear peoples opinions sorry if annoying.
@M4SKED2001 Its what I did. And after watching it myself, I don't entirely agree with Joltz but I do understand, respect and agree with some of his points. I liked the movie but I didn't love it. For me it was a 6/10
This movie could have been like any Deadpool movie BECAUSE BORDERLANDS HUMOR AND ACTION IS LIKE DEADPOOL'S... THEY HAD 3 EXAMPLES OF HOW TO MAKE THE MOVIE... but they did this
Well… here is my review. What did you guys think of the movie?
Spoiler Free 0:00 - 13:04
Spoiler 13:04 - 36:15
I thought you were going to say WTF
Im sad i though i wil see maliwan and katagawa jr in the movie ):
This film is a hole full of meat that you're not gonna love.
I'm not worried about the franchise, I hope that Borderlands 4 is going to be good. I'm not going to see the movie.
They took Krieg’s buzzaxe, and completely butchered his character with it
"Like an adult ava" just going straight for the throat with that one lol
The only thing he was wrong about was implying she doesn't lash out and complain that much. It's like 50% of what she does.
@@goshking4331 still booty cheeks lol
@goshking4331 That's an exaggeration. She's like that until she realizes that Vault Hunting is serious business that can get anyone involved in it killed (Maya's death). There could've been better ways to get that to happen, but what I really didn't get is how quickly she adapted to Maya's power, and considering her track record with learning and discipline, it seems unlikely. The game does hammer in that Ava is a "when push comes to shove" type of person though.
Joltz u should get into a position to write future game/movie stories for Borderlands literally your destiny bro no better person.
WITH KEVIN HART AS ROLAND!?!? U guys really thought…? that shi is just nah… like they needed a popular actor as padding??? IDK but wtf bro😕
Roland last I remembered wasn’t a comedian was he guys? Unless I missed something 💀
PS: going to copy and paste this bc want to hear peoples opinions sorry if annoying.
Talk about the one line to repel pretty much all of the fan base away from the movie 😂
Joltz “how to jump skip the borderlands movie”
“So what you’re gonna do first is NOT go to the ticket counter. If you do, the skip won’t work and you’ll have to do it over ”
“The skip dude”
There's a bridge I could recommend
"10 things you missed in the Borderlands movie" - Just plays the whole movie
@@Joltzdude139 😂😂
"Was it made for the Borderlands fans or for a general audience"
"Neither"
That's not a great omen
It was made for hollywood execs so they can buy add on for their mansions
@@SpikedMocha It was made for both
@@johnnypakilla6853 the casting says otherwise
@@EndofTimeGaming-m9s I liked Kevin Roland better than actually.
@@johnnypakilla6853 poor feeble minded fool
The problem with "reimagining" an established franchise is: A. Casual audiences won't care about the movie to begin with, and B. Fans who _do_ care and _will_ come see it are gonna be pissed off that the lore was vandalized. If you're _gonna_ adapt an IP, adapt it accurately or _don't fucking bother._
Case in point: Moxxi having a southern accent. Yes, in the games, Moxxi _does_ have a southern accent, being one of the Hodunk tribe. She _hides that accent 99.9% of the time in order to hide that she's from the Hodunk tribe._ Now, a fan knows that. A casual viewer who _doesn't_ know that _isn't gonna get what they did by giving her a southern accent._ So don't fuckin' bother doing it, _either way._
I'd suggest the word faithfully rather than accurately.
This is the thing that bothers me. You wanted to pay a ton of money to create something based on an already very successful franchise...and you just...remove everything that made it auccessful??? Why did you spend all that money, then!!!!????
If you make a good movie that general audiences can understand, then general audiences will enjoy and view it. If you also make it so that the fans who made the franchise successful enjoy it, they will be your hype machine. How do they get this wrong every time?
You can change an ip but you have to be incredibly careful to make sure that what you're changing still makes sense and fits right in with what was there before but you really need the right producing crew who really care about the starting material
The Siren's call towards the mythical "wider audience" has claimed yet another soul beneath the murky depths.
The worst part is Gearbox execs were convinced a movie could work thanks to the first Tales from the Borderlands. They had a perfect formula to follow right there, and they didn't. They opted for shortsighted capitalization with cheap easter eggs. Even Tales had a bunch of easter eggs, but rarely (if ever) was it a case of being there for the sake of being there. I remember Randy Pitchford giving an interview and pointing out how a fucking hatch has the Dahl logo and saying (paraphrasing) "that was taken straight from the games!"
Honestly, if they wanted to make something simple as a popcorn flick, they could have just did a straight retelling of Borderlands 1, and it could have worked far better. You get the 4 mains, you're not expected to know any lore. And you just split up the segments of action with some jokey downtime.
I wasn't gonna see tbe movie before. But if it's got Dahl hatch, I'm pretty excited to check it out
I just imagine joltz as the homelander meme watching the borderlands movie 😂
That is accurate
😂😂😂
which one?
Same
@povotaknight2063 think it's right after stormfront gets heavily injured in season 2 near the end
Imagine joltz sitting there in the theater screaming at Kevin hart because he didn't farm the matching grip
😂
Not with a matching grip dude 😢😢😢
"lilith was like an adult Ava"
He's really not holding back
Can't wait to see what Oboe will think
@@bruschetta7711oboe sounded like he wanted to kill himself when a influencer asked him if borderlands was like elden ring lol
Just saw this, at one point in the movie, when they're in Moxxie's bar, there's a can of axe body spray on the counter. I'm not even joking, it's next to Bobby Lee's character.
@@zinivix It's either :
A - Someone used it and forgot to put it off the set, with nobody noticing or caring that a WILDLY out of place item is on the set.
B - It's a Sponsored Ad badly placed and thought of.
In both cases, it's a terrible look.
If they took claptrap out this movie and called it The Misfits instead, no one would know its a borderlands film.
Forget the movie...fear the impact it's going to make for all Borderlands franchise...if Borderlands 4 fails...it's going to be over for Gearbox.
At this point, it's a mercy.
Borderlands has three fun games and a nice spinoff that brings the story to a new genre you wouldn't expect it to work in. That's more than most game franchises can ask for. Considering Wonderland, 3 and New Tales ended up so rough (to put it lightly), combined with the cult of personality falling out from under Randy, and that's not even getting into the other gross mismanagments going on in Gearbox, the company can rot for all I care. The people who made those games great deserve an employer that won't drag them down.
To be honest the series has gone downhill since the last BL2 expansion with every release thereafter being worse.
I'm still hoping 4 is good but if the studio is finished, which I doubt, at this point it wouldn't be a great loss.
borderlands 3 was okay but the story was absolute dogshit and tiny tina was also in insult, it could have been such a great game instead they did this pile of shit. also there are other failures like the telltale(not from telltale) game which they also ruined completely, right now, if nothing drastically changes, borderlands 4 is done for
@@Pattern_Noticerwoah woah fucking wag. Claptastic voyage first off. Second....some of the bl2 ( I know the main studio didn't make them) dlc's are also ass
@@justjordan6560 Scarlett DLC is great, Torques and Hammerlocks DLCs are ok, Tina DLC is a banger and Fight for Sanctury is great aswell
Crazy that Deadpool and Wolverine is a better borderlands movie than the actual borderlands movie.
i know, when theyre in the void or what ever its called the first thing i thought of was borderlands and mad max
@@I_Am_Angkong Kassandra Nova is an evil siren, they later meet with the old vault hunters, then there is a high action battle with blood and explosions and every character shows their skills.
IT IS LITERALLY ALL THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE BORDERLANDS MOVIE WHY GEARBOX WHY?!
@@edgieststalker8141 true, but I don’t think gearbox had that much say about it :/
Just look at the Witcher series, neither the original author or CDPR could make them follow the original story
It’s also crazy that Guardians Of The Galaxy is better Borderlands movie than the actual Borderlands movie that we got all 3 of them in fact are better in terms of the comedy and the action
Completely unironically it really is.
I guess the movie really put the stinky on its viewers
No one touch it!! It’s perfect I’ll be sad :(
@@georgejonesson6338 they touched it. They touched it a lot
Put the stinky on em
The chopper in question: :3
@@roghider319 yeah i saw :(
I remember an interview some of the top gear box staff gave a long time ago about doing a BL movie, and they talked about how it would be difficult because of how precious the franchise was and how they would only do it if it had the perfect cast and perfect script and they had final creative say. Well so much for all of that.
I went and saw it tonight. I went in with no expectations, KNOWING it had a bad rating, KNOWING Cate was just doing it for a paycheck, KNOWING Randy Pitchford got his greasy magic mitts all over the film. And trying so, so hard to ignore all that we know about borderlands as a franchise, treating the film as if it were it's own unique concept with new characters? Awful. Seriously, I thought MARCUS was the most interesting character and best fitting. Which isnt far off from what the franchise is, but this was an especially tactless attempt. Guess they need something for their tax write off.
Well we shouldn’t be surprised that they knew full well how to design a corrupt, greedy conman character. Surely they’ve got mirrors in Hollywood?
To be fair, people like you are the reason they keep doing it lol
ah man.. i mean we all saw this coming.
Next thing you know is that someone is going to do a live action adaptation of the Mass Effect trilogy and then proceed to screw that up as well lol
I knew it was going to be bad when the actress of Tina said that instead of basing her acting on the ORIGINAL CHARACTER FROM THE GAMES she based her acting on Margot's Harley quinn...
Lol
I don't even understand how you could make a movie, based on an entire universe and take so little inspiration from it.
It's just insulting and shows how they didn't care at all, it was just a way for them to promote their name.
@@theiridiumgamer5225they just thought the borderlands aesthetic would make bajillions of dollars without considering they might have missed the point of their own series lol
Wow that's pitiful
Harley is like the worst person to take inspiration for with Tiny Tina 😂
dude forget the 200 people, joltz himself laughs at like, EVERYTHING. him not laughing ONCE in a BORDERLANDS MOVIE is beyond bad
he's on camera.
Having Lilith be a siren is a crazy twist.
?
@@melopunk nice social literacy
She’s literally a siren bruh
You know that this is going to be bad when the only place that your local cinema have chosen to place Borderlands movie poster is men's restroom.
Can't even make this thing up
lilith being an "adult ava" oh my god LMFAO. i somehow got this vibe from just the clips from the trailer, but if it was actually like that for the whole movie... oh BOY
"adult ava" that was something that i sure as hell did not wanna hear
Yeah, it's not the kind of person you want to see living long enough to reach adulthood
@@Psycorde LMAO spit my water out 😂
I haven't watched it, yet from the trailer I could already see this
Fan service movie turned into fan disservice
Just fan disservice really
They made a fan service movie and took away the fan service imagine if they referenced stuff from the community like if one of them tries to farm for a matching grip
@@natus5494that honestly would've made it worth it "sigh"
@natus5494 They did made reference to the weapons but not to farming loot .
Hollywierd for ya…
Bl1 was grim and sad, the reason it worked is because of the silent desperation of the world, with little bits of oddly placed humor that worked BECAUSE of the grim and grime. Cowboy bebop is a good analog for a borderlands series, at least the atmosphere and feel. Whatever this is and frankly the story now is not at all what I for one fell in love with all those years ago
just got out if the theater i am currently drunk
alcohol does not help
Unlike most video game adaptations I thought like Borderlands could translate really easy to a film. The blueprint is already there, part Fury Road, part Guardians of the Galaxy, part Deadpool, whatever just with more gun porn. We're not reinventing the wheel here, Borderlands isnt that deep. But this film failed at every single phase of development, except the CG I guess. Really baffling bad management.
That's pretty much what I was thinking. Deadpool+Guardians of the Galaxy+Mad Max. Decent enough Borderlands movie there as long as the gun porn is there and the characters are the same.
how did they mess up this badly, this could have been so cool.
I kinda disagree, unless you were to cut a lot of it down, because if you really want to make everything(even if it's just the main story) into a movie it would be like a 4 hours movie(I'm talking about just one game, and it can be any entry of the series)... but well maybe there's a way to cut only to parts that matter and get into something that's closer to 3 hours then it's acceptable? But oh well, I'll say this: if Borderlands ever get another live action, it needs to be a movie, I don't think it can fit as a show series, at least not when talking about main game story. And what I think they should've done since the beginning was to use the universe, and create entire new characters to interact with the universe, but even then I still think, considering this movie, it would probably suck.
@@Cuestrupaster Have you watched Scott pilgrim vs the world? I would expect it to be cut like that. Many characters introduced, screentime is used quickly with lots of expression to show the character. Just that with guns and a mad max pew pew. oh and heaps of dead pool
@@db5094 It's been a while since I watched that movie, I think it's a way of doing, but I'm not sure it would fit in Borderlands theme... but would be better than this for sure.
No shields, lack of focus on the types of guns, no blood and gore, no character build up, I still feel like this can be summed up as: should have been R-rated instead of PG13 and I think it would've done better as a series to slow down the pacing and build everything up
The giant worm thing's head gets blown off. I think that's all though.
I like to think they intentionally make bad movies so then when they make another one they can look back at the bad one as ‘what not to do’
it was made by Eli roth who messed up tons of movies he screwed this movie
The head of atlis had one. They name dropped the transformer shiled
@@eeveemaster8902 even so, literally everyone has a shield so is having 1 in the whole movie really a good idea?
I was in the Barcelona Comic fair a couple months back, and there was group of borderlands Psychos walking around, pointed them out to my friends, and this lady in a suit came rushing over.
She asked me that if I wanted a photo with the psychos, I'd have to post an instagram photo saying I was excited for the movie. I told her hell nah, it looks like crap, and she had the gall to ask me why
Should've agreed and then bashed the movie in the tag
If you didn't have to sign a contract you legally wouldn't have to do anything for them lol
Better to pose with the characters. Mention it's with the new Borderlands movie coming out and see who promotes it, while promoting that you care about fans giving then pictures.
The forced way seems like
1! Makes the movie look like test audiences aren't happy
And 2! There should be a deal with the photos. No cosplay person I know of treats it like Only Fans. Did they ask you to purchase tokens?
Reminds me of walking into a grocery store and being asked, "Hey, you want a free Newspaper?"
Followed by, "Just talk to me for 15 minutes, gove me all your information and commit to an annual delivery service."
...amd you get this 75 cent newspaper FREE!?!
I watched this with someone else, and being me I'd quite visibly show my frustration with the movie by just trying to rub my eyes to keep myself awake during it all. Part way through, I overheard someone behind me talking to someone else and they said "think of it as its own thing" and that brought me to the epiphany I needed. The biggest problem with the movie, to me, is that they are forcing it in a direction that doesn't feel like Borderlands while trying to jam pack it with as much stuff to feel like Borderlands. When I saw the thresher, me and my friend looker at each other immediately because we both knew that that wasn't the thresher we knew and loved/hated. A great parallel to that idea and problem of "think of it as its own thing" would probably be The Last Jedi, which many very much disliked due to its implications in a series beloved by many from their childhood, where it swept away a lot of the best things about the galaxy and assassinated a beloved character while doing it. It's a real shame, too, because I would be fine with an adjacent film series that played out in a world (or rather universe) that was different from the series IF they treated it with actual respect, which they clearly didn't.
Bro expected a 48 hr gameplay 😂
I went into this movie with the expectation that it is a story in the borderlands universe, but an alternate timeline from the games and it really helps stomach a lot of the issues that people have with
Yeah sorry no I actually hate the implication of "think of it as it's own thing" excuse because it is an excuse. The movie was absolutely horrendous even without being borderlands like Walmart brand Guardians of the Galaxy with worse cgi, stunts, and not having an R rating. They chose to attach this plot to a famous IP much like the God awful last jedi and it should be criticized for it. Not that either of those movies could be enjoyed let alone would be made without crutching on their respective IPs
@@sean-ryanpetersen3183
Sean is 100% right
@sean-ryanpetersen3183 It was pretty good. It was good to see a live a take on the borderlands world. I really liked Roland, too.
My fav line from the movie is in the Lilith x Tina convo
"Atlas is your father, isn't he?"
"Yeeees and no"
"It wasn't a yes or no question"
THEN WHAT WAS IT LILITH
So basically, Scooter and Ellie went out of business in this movie.
Its not even close to be the worst thing i mean they got the numbers of planet in the sky wrong how the f do you even do that?
And Brick and Mordecai are nowhere to be found. :(
@@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094wait really?? That is so bunk
@@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094 exactly! Where the dynamic duo?!
Nah, Ellie appears in the credits, good luck finding her tho
What makes a good Borderlands is when the characters take themselves seriously, and the world-building does not.
Roland was a serious, competent soldier, Handsome Jack legitimately felt he was a hero cleansing the planet, Marcus is out to make lots of m money, Tina is a little girl with PTSD hiding behind her mania to avoid dealing with mental health, Mordecai literally goes on a killing rampage when his pet bird gets killed and he cries afterward.
Even Claptrap(s) take their job as seriously as they can, and our main Claptrap just wants to be liked.
None of the characters would ever turn to the camera after making a generic one-liner, they don't give a passing thought to the fact that every species in the universe has a "midget" form, they are all fully developed real people who just happen to live in a wacky universe.
That's what's ruining the stories, characters trying too hard to be wacky
Good insight. I agree wholeheartedly.
It knew when to take itself serious. The most frustrating thing in all of this is the re-writing of history, I see people constantly accuse 2 of having the same terrible humor as the new ones, when that's not how it was at all. The series is completely dead, the average person cannot see past the garbage for what made it special. Damnit it hurts.
Its funny because people dont realize how serious people got in the story. We find kriegs dialogue funny and quirky but he legitimately wanted to be able to speak normally.
Gaige was also dealing with her own shit as well.
So true man, the Pandora itself is true hell, even main characters aren't good (remember trailer song - this ain't no place for no hero) , and the world is crazy not because writers want it to be crazy, but because it CAN'T be normal
I've always thought about this: Borderlands is supossed to be a fucked up place with people trying to do their best to survive, and that's why some wacky Stuff happens
It's not a wacky place where sometimes serious Stuff happens.
from the trailers it looks like they just picked big named actors/actresses, selected an IP that doesn’t have a show/film yet, google top 10 facts, then make the film.
It looks like nobody who worked on this played any of the games maybe they played BL3 but definitely not 1, 2, presequel, or tales. Borderlands should’ve been a slam dunk film to make but they missed by a fair bit.
I’ll be seeing this with friends soon but we’re fans going into this and don’t have high hopes
Why even go? Dont give them money, you already know it's bad. Don't encourage their bad behavior
Just wait till it comes out on red box or something don't give them money in theaters . That's why they keep making crap movies lol
@@IiiiIiiIllIlim mainly thinking about going to AMC to buy the Popcorn bucket, then im watching Deadpool and Woverine. I love the Claptrap bucket, but I dont care about the Borderlands movie.... and thats kinda sad as a fan of the game.
@@Masterk1988should’ve put this in but seeing as in sailing the high seas of the internet
This franchise had the potential to be the next big space opera like Star Wars or Guardians of the Galaxy, but nope. The creators of this movie hadn’t touched a single Borderlands game
I swear when oboeshoes made the "Borderlands movie" video a few years ago, he called it all right
Don't forget about all of the cliche dialogue "you hear that." "Hear what?" "That's the sound of freedom." 😭
when you try to appeal to everyone you appeal to no one
Accurate
Marvel did it
@@Lorentz_Driverwith captain marvel?
@@Lorentz_Driver No they not
Bruh I dont think they meant to appeal to anyone, its only meant to appeal to executives
Saw it today, left the cinema halfway through the film
THE SKIP DUDE
Was anyone else there? Seats are looking empty at my local theater.
hope u got a refund lol
@Joltzdude139 it was packed to be fair, I was surprised
@@jagojuice9133 didn't even bother trying
The problem with Tina in the movie is that she is more like Ava than Tina. She isn't crazy at all, even her love for bombs was minimal.
Saw it today. Much better than the extremely low expectations I had. Biggest negatives for me were the placid Kreig character, Tannis who completely lacked the "Insanely Smart" and should have been more neurotic, an almost non-existent antagonist, way too fast a pace to establish almost anything and then they did almost nothing with the vault monster. Things I liked, sets, graphics and it was a BL story pretty true to the series in many ways. Lilith's Infinity, Roland's Maliwan (ln the Psycho tunnels) from BL3, possibly a Beacon, Atlas soldiers using Atlas rifles. The movie was fun but yeah, nothing special. I doubt non-players will understand it at all. PS: there were only 6 people in the theater.
watched it in the movies with the family, only like 5 people there us included
i am a off and on player of the borderlands franchise over the years, mother been playing a bit over the last couple of months, and my father has yet to play at all, and we all honestly enjoyed the movie
was it the best, no, was it as bad as EVERYONE is saying it is, no, it is a passable movie, as long as you don't try to connect it to the game outside of, "oh i know that character or oh cool its a infinity".
i honestly think that is the biggest problem everyone has with it, and im going to be frank with yall, Claptrap was weak at best, jack did what he could, but we all know it could have been so much better
also as a fun fact, the movie made my father want to actually try the game now, so plus
How could they make a borderlands movie without Face McShooty outrageous
Imagine the epic transition there could’ve been how he says they just teleport from one part to the next. And there’s a scene SHOOT ME IN THE FACE. NOT IN THE ARM NOT IN THE LEG IN THE FAAAAAAACEEEEE
Be glad Face McShooty's Face was not disgraced.
I mean we said the movie would be shit since they teased it... Im not surprised tbh
Its worse way way worse
Idk if Maya is in the movie, but having Kreig, the psycho simp, not have the love of his life in the main casting with him, is stupid.
@@alyssarichardson2544 "Phaselock someone's manager'" has me dying LMAO
@@alyssarichardson2544 Phaseplaining ,new siren power
The guy who plays Krieg is not really an actor, he is a professional boxer born in Romania, and he lives in Germany if im not mistaken.
31:05 The 115 mil wasn't gearbox's money, it never could have gone towards BL4 :(
it's not even surprising, like 99% game related movies is a fucking cashgrab
And it'll never change. Every popular game will be spat on in movie form at some point. The only "good" movies are the ones that are super average, the rest? Garbage.
Well there was that one Mortal Combat movie that was so cheesey it looped around to being good.
I wish Uwe Boll was behind the whell. I mean, he already pulled it off once with Postal.
@@dragonace119 I love the 95 Kombat film. It's wild how well it holds up, badly aged CGI and all.
Recently we've had a lot of good video game movies
I'm convinced the director played up until sanctuary hole and then stopped, asked chat gpt to summarise the plot of borderlands and proceeded to base the rest of the movie of that alone.
They wanted to dumb it down for the general public but failed to realise that condensing over 155-190 hours of gameplay into 1hr 45 mins is an impossible task.
The only people that were ever going to understand the movie truly were the fans.
And they gave us nothing, nothing at all.
Just a measly Vladoff infinity pistol reference.
No pretzels, no MINION, no no frefunds, no Dr zed stabbing someone with a needle, nothing at all.
It failed to reach the general public and failed to reach the fans, ultimately this movie was for nobody. It missed all the marks.
"I did not laugh once, I did not smile once"
well ok that about sums it up for me then
💀
What if... the Borderlands 2 movie starts on a familiar yellow train...
I feel like if they bumped the age rating to at least a 15 and made a TV series, they could've done a lot more with it. The entrie thing definitely seemed rushed :((
Like an adult Ava. That’s all you needed to say. Thanks for you honesty Joltz .
The most exciting part of the movie for me is literally the fact it's predicted to lose so much money that GBX will have to make up their losses.
Their ego as a company has been gigantic and their arrogance has been unbearable lately so if this movie really does lose as much as it's predicted, they'll have to book their ideas up, stop messing around and make some good Borderlands games again.
That, or they'll just release BL2 enhanced. We'll see I suppose
Bl2 remaster remastered
No surprises, frankly. BL's writing has been on a heavy decline for a good while and the series has been held up on its gameplay alone. Changing it to a medium that is just writing, no gameplay, and infamously difficult to adapt from a video game, was doomed to fail.
The writing has arguably never been that good, you were just 12 when you played borderlands 2 and didn’t know any better, like many of us, and now in every playthrough you just skip through as much dialogue as possible, like many of us
@@SaltSpirits Nah, that's just a cope. Sidequests were like that, maybe, but overt jokes and quips were rare outside of Jack, and there were no meta or meme references in the main game of BL1 or 2. BL1 suffered from being unable to deliver a cohesive storyline due to ludonarrative dissonance, delivering story mostly through text between missions that were implied to actually be verbal, leading to a mor eboring overall story where there were not cutscenes. BL2's main plot works with its characters, offering flaws, development, and interesting twists and climaxes. Later games ditched most of that in favor of a bog-standard "hero's journey" progression without adding any depth beyond that, which is why most returning characters seem flanderized and new characters flat. There is no further evidence of BL3's, Wonderlands', and New Tales' writing being worse than that flanderization, where in comparison, BL2 spent its time giving returning characters MORE history, lore, dialogue, and core traits.
BL2's writing isn't bad, and if you're just skipping through it all, that's because you heard it 1000 times before, not because it's low quality. Don't attribute your jaded emotions to poor quality instead of overexposure.
@@SaltSpirits Nah bl3 was terribly written compared to bl2, objectively, even the main antagonist as one main example.
@@SaltSpirits Whilst there is some cringe going back as an adult, the overall story of bl2 still holds up
@@yourgoodfriend276 Tons of meta and meme references in BL2, they’re just super dated now so not everyone might recognize them as such. Bad Lip Readings quotes, multiple “cool story bro” and “come at me, bro” lines (yes, those were memes at one point) the Double Rainbow meme, “haters gonna hate,” leeroy jenkins, the neil degrade tyson “watch out we’ve got a badass over here” line, shoop da whoop, south park ski instructor, xzibit’s yo dawg, “u mad bro?” “yolo”, dbz “over 9000” wilhelm scream etc. psychos will also reference the rickroll song, etc. and this is all without getting into stuff like weapon descriptions/flavor text even, just audio stuff. it also excludes video game tv and film references that aren’t tied to memes. Vending machines frequently crack jokes about levelling up, gear rarity etc. arguably the entire face mcshooty quest is a meta joke, etc. It’s chock full of the stuff.“I used to be a vault hunter like you, then I took a bullet to the knee.” & “I used to be a Vault Hunter like you, until I founded the Crimson Raiders” bandits scream “Never should’ve come here!” like they do in Skyrim. Crazy Earl has references to the RE4 trader. Sanctuary NPCs mention the gang from Saints Row in passing. There are even marvel and dc references all over the place. Flyboy will say "I'm gonna be the very best, like nobody ever goddamn was!" in one of his pre-recorded messages in The Forge, multiple Minecraft references in Caustic Caverns, name any franchise from before BL2 released and there’s probably a nod to it somewhere. I don’t know where you got the idea that there weren’t meta jokes or memes or that the writers aren’t doing everything they can to break your immersion. I don’t disagree that BL2 is the best written of the series but when you compare it to media as a whole it’s not excellent and I don’t think many of us are genuinely playing these games for the story.
God I love this channel, you have a super human ability to keep generating content about a single game series. So glad you got your tickets free because you really deserve it, I don’t really play borderlands anymore but I’ll still watch every vid. But I hope you don’t ever feel boxed into the game series, I’d watch you play new games if you ever thought about it.
No you got it wrong my guy.. Let me point it out:
10:35 time stamp.
Tiny Tina was annoying and announced that she was "Special" the entire movie. Which got REALLY annoying. And her being a clone??.. They messed up her backstory. For a demolition expert being a 13 years old girl, there NEEDED to be more explosive action. (If they seriously didn't make this movie pg13, it would've been more enjoyable. More murder, explosions and blood. Not Unicorns and Rainbows.)
Claptrap was... Claptrap.. But Jack Black wasn't good for the voice acting. Look, the animation model for Claptrap was good, don't get me wrong! It's just.. The voice. It really didn't suit poor claptrap.
I did like Lilith a bit, as much as Tannis. They were both okay. I didn't expect them to be perfect but they were good enough. I was literally relieved near the end of the movie that Lilith DID have her powers, and not Tiny Tina. (Therefore it would've messed up the entire movie if Tina did have powers and would've made me and my partner, walk out.)
Roland.. Look Kevin Hart as Roland wasn't the best of choices. As much as I hate to say this, I prefer caring for the videogame Roland then movie Roland. Sorry but wrong choice of actor.
I felt that Krieg was the best for the actors build, yeah, I do see him being treated as a pet throughout the film but he was one of the GOOD ones. They should've went for Krieg's backstory. We didn't even get a lick of Sane Krieg's voice.. I wish we did.
I had to say something.
Not trying to be mean. But I agree with one thing you said. We won't be expecting a sequel and I hope we don't. The movie was just tolerable enough to watch.
The casting choices boggles my mind Kevin hart as Roland doesn’t make sense to me.
I feel like if they made a real borderlands movie then made this as a parody, people wouldn’t be as upset.
But this IS the real movie. Such a waste.
So we got krieg without maya lol, the fact everyone in the raiders did not like krieg but yet he grew on them all because of our beautiful siren maya:(
It truly amazes me how these Hollywood directors and producers, who clearly are talented, have gotten to where they are creating such atrocities. Just like with The Witcher and Halo, all they had to do was stick to the lore and everyone would've loved it. But instead, because people in Hollywood think they're creative and their s**t doesn't stink, they can do whatever they want to the movie, changing what, over time, has developed into an adoring fan base. All because they think their artistic talent is better than the original. They try to compete rather than work within the universe. Fallout is a prime example of what can happen if you don't ruin a beloved franchise with meaningless new additions. To me, it seems a lot of directors and producers are allowed to succumb to the Peter Principle.
I never played the games or read the books for The Witcher and I loved the show although I will admit it has been declining since the first season
Ok the fallout comment
They’re also guilty of it literally they think they’re better than Chris avellone
They did not follow the trajectory of all the west coast stories and actively misunderstood the setting to a ridiculous degree
Bro the borderlands subreddit kept trying to con everybody into thinking the movie is good meanwhile you have the bl patron saint curb stomping it to hell 😭😭
I think this would have been better formatted to a tv show. My idea was to follow the first game closely in narrative with most additions being character driven and I think following Roland as the primary character and having the other vault hunters being added in as the story progresses would be great. Roland runs into Lilith outside of 9 toes, they run into Mordecai in arid hills, and brick trying to fight the roid rage psycho. 2 episodes max and all characters are there. Then give another side to Steele so we know more of the villain, and the big thing is change is to not have angel present. Have Lilith subtly kinda guide everyone if other characters don’t know where to go or other side characters. Reveal at the end that angel was only speaking to Lilith but speaks to the 4 of them when the destroyer is destroyed. Show the satellite, show a report of steeled death hitting knoxxs desk, roll credits, season 2 next year. Easy
That sounds pretty epic. An alternative ending could be like a silhouette of Handsome Jack saying something like "all according to plans"
@@elishuster5943 I think having the subtlety of handsome Jack looming from the reveal of angel is a good enough compromise to not have season 2 focus on him so much as to focus on general knoxx and presequel. There’s a way better version of the knoxx dlc and even revolution if we went down the MINAC route. But having the story told chronologically would be better. Have season 2 show the VHs overthrowing atlas, killing knoxx, meeting Athena. Then have them either do robolution or skip it and go straight to presequel. Either that’s or DLCs are a season on their own or they’re skipped, but I think you can really expand on the dlc storylines to make a really cool season. Otherwise do presequel with a better narrative and then season 3 is borderlands 2
@@prequeltrilogy5812 thinking about it more I think that would probably make a better show but the studios would probably want angel to be a character throughout season 1 and reveal Jack at the end of Season 1 because Handsome Jack is such a big ip that they would want to include him
Honestly Krom got more than he deserved. All he did was sit on a gatling turret and spam from a mile away until we inevitably killed him. Of all the boss characters they could have chosen he's easily the most boring. Nine toes would have made a better choice.
(also he's got 3 balls)
Thanks for jumping on this grenade for us.
I love the borderlands franchise, but i could not force myself to see this movie. As soon as I saw the first trailer, i knew it was going to be our dragonball evolution, damn i want borderlands to make a comeback as a franchise. 😤😮💨
They should have just made a giant cutscene style movie or have the TellTale people make it. Animated would have worked so much better.
I heard someone describe it as “a less funny Guardians of the Galaxy with a borderlands theme” and wow that fit perfectly.
This kind of hurts it’s disrespectful that they literally just picked big names and expected us to love it like the series we’ve grown to love.
The biggest fail is probably the pg 13 rating borderlands has always been on the darker more mature side of humor before bl3. And also gore guns dark humor all something thats integral to borderlands and its pretty impossible with a pg 13 to keep that integral vibe of borderlands
man b1 and b2 humor was so damn good, it did it perfectly well for such a game and setting, i laughed so many times
More mature? Bruh thinks "poop train" is mature.
@@Lorentz_Driver I mean compared to bl3s fart cave yeah it's pretty mature and actually if you look into people with severe psychosis it's actually the type of crap they might say so it's still has a dark undertone
@@Lorentz_Driver congratulations you cherry picked one line, how about we talk about when jack blew bloodwings head off and made a joke about it? Was that too immature for you?
@@Lorentz_Driver”Bruh” takes one line from the game and somehow thinks the commenter is referring to it for maturity.
Totally not the extreme gore and dark undertones but noooo “poop train”. Good one! Big smart!
"But, there's always a butt" Joltz while looking at Buttstallion in the game.
I genuinely laughed at that had to be on purpose
All they really had to do was make it animated, base it on borderlands 1 or 2 as closely as possible or just entirely new characters
Best way i could describe the movie is it was written by people who have never played the game and chose actors who were actors and no other reason? it was just actors because they were famous and werent chosen to act as characters
Hollywood action movies are for whatever reason disgusted with the idea of an action hero using any type of firearm other then pistol so not surprised
John Wick syndrome
@@BroWitGlasses8008 nah, John Wick uses more than just pistols
@mothichorror446 yes but he's most known for doing cool stuff with pistols
Gearbox: Wanna see how i will destroy my reputation?
release New Tales from the Borderlands
Gearbox: Wanna see it again?
release Borderlands Movie
Don’t forget how they fucked up Wonderlands
@@Kingfury4wonderlands wasn’t THAT bad, i liked it
Same it didn't hit as hard as dragon's keep but it did cover a good aspect of how Tina was cause she always was a very isolated child and after basically getting to feel like she has a family again of course she will develop abandonment issues especially after the loss of Roland
One thing in the wonderlands game that made me question life was the part where Claptrap gets laid with a few snake women (I think they’re names are The Coiled Sisters)
How does Claptrap f*ck?
I absolutely detest tales though. Apparently just me -
AVI ARAD has ruined so far...
* Borderlands
* Daredevil (2003)
* The Punisher (2004)
* Elektra (2005)
* Fantastic Four (2005)
* X-Men: The Last Stand
* Spider-Man 3
* Bratz
* Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
* The Amazing Spider-Man 2
* Ghost in the Shell (2017)
* Venom: Let There Be Carnage
* Uncharted (2022)
* Morbius
And now he's gonna ruin...
* Kraven the Hunter
* Venom: The Last Dance
* Legend of Zelda
* Naruto
As long Arad lives, there's no hope
how the fuck is he still getting work
@@Dylan-lt7wh
#IBlameAviArad
Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks
Punisher 04 was spectacular you take that back right now
I think there's a lot more than Avi at fault here
I’m sorry this was your hardest borderlands challenge. Keep it up, man.
wait, it was PG-13!?!??! WHAT. The funniest parts of borderlands to me was the blood and gore explosions. And once i got a ps4 i played krieg for about a year straight, so he is one of my favourite parts of the series. I didnt want kevin hart to be in the movie from the beginning. i havent seen it, or finished your video yet, but im already sad
Finshed it, can conclude i have no hope for the series. they want money. Time for the funeral
Im just thinking about how many things they could've done differently in this movie.
-Have krieg be a caring character but absolutely insane whenever he fights
-Make lilith be a lot more light-hearted and crack jokes
-Don't make kevin hart roland
-Be faithful to the source material in setting, props and characters except for the basic story structure and new locations.
I'm absolutely sure that gearbox had little to no influence on this movie because this would be the worst thing they had ever made by a long shot, even worse than Tales 2.
i feel like kreig could of just been yapping and like tryna hurt himself when there is talking just like when he hits himself when in his rampage
Krieg even said the "The only one who can kill me is me!" thing, but if you don't actually know what Krieg's story is, it's completely random and nonsensical. Like the "I always come back" in the FNAF movie, but even stranger
We really did peak with BL2: Dragon Keep, didn't we?
yes. yes we did
I got it the perfect metaphor for the borderlands movie. Borderlands movie is borderlands 1 2 and 3 as a 10-year-old's puzzle that has 25 pieces and the director/writer couldn't figure out so he got some scissors cut up the pieces so they fit together how he wanted and ended up a monstrosity
I wish there was like 10 seconds in the film of someone comparing two guns, trying to figure out which to use.
I was so hype when they announced this...10 years ago. Talk about striking while the iron is absolute zero
Even if they did this 10 years ago, it would still be terrible
Might have been good if they picked a better cast. Jack black as claptrap is diabolical
Ya they seemed to not understand that the Voice Actors for the Game really make the Game
The people who made this don't seem to realise that slapping a bunch of popular actors into a movie doesn't instantly make it good
Jack Black didn't deserve it
Why was Kevin hart Roland 😭
that was like the only "good" choice but it got ruined after he endorsed the Trump assasination
I love that part in the movie where Lilith says: "Howdy boys!" and everyone in the theatre drops dead on the floor.
Big actors being used for adaptations is always the sign that this is just a heartless cash grab. Of course, the unknown actor did well as Kreig, he wanted to do right by the character because he had something to lose and wanted to do something right by the character, the others don’t fit their roles at all, but their star power has gotten butts in the seats in the past, so why shouldn’t they hear right?
Borderlands needs to be a TV show. The lore is far to deep for a movie to ever do it justice.
Lilith being an adult Ava, the guns not being what they should be, what a damn shame.
I know there’s like a thousand channels that say it’s bad but when it comes from jolt you know it’s bad
Krieg was the only best thing in the movie which makes us Krieg mains happy enough although it flopped unsurprising
Just as long as you aren't "Fuel the Rampaging" Krieg in my lobby where my "close enough" skill is putting you in ffyl every 16 sec hehe
I think the killing of Knoxx being so sudden and out of nowhere was meant to mimic Steele’s death from the first game.
I feel sorry for any adult that paid to see this PG-13 film while sitting in a theater chair that probably contains hundreds of other peoples fart sharts.
Thank you joltz for putting the spoiler free and spoiler text on screen! It means a lot
I heard, i didnt laugh once i didnt smile once and thats ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR LMAOOOO OH NO ITS SO BAD
Psycho in game: “IM GONNA RIP YOUR HEART OUT AND EAT WHILE YOU WATCH AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!”
Psycho in movie: oopsie sowwy for hurting you uwu 🥺
Watching this movie was like eating an expired off brand Pop Tart without frosting. And if flavor was Parmesan cheese
the second i saw the trailer i knew it was going to be bad purely from the cast, the actors arent bad but i feel like not a single one of the actors were a correct choice for their characters specifically for lillith and tannis, havent seen the movie yet but purely from what you just said about pg-13 but i think they just proved what fox tried to do when they wanted deadpool to originally be pg-13 and everyone was like no if you do that the movie will be a complete failure, its a setting that should 100% be ma-15+ bare minimum, probably should be r-18 tbh, especially if they wanted to put krieg in it cause as we all know kriegs story is mega fucked up and not something you could properly show in a movie without it being r-18
Imagine Tarantino as the director and scriptwriter with his gore, borderline insanity dialogues, detail etc. Guess we’ll never know
Borderlands was never the same after BL3. The franchise lost its soul. The tales from the borderlands sequel, tiny tina's wonderland, and now this movie. All of them don't have the core of what made Borderlands 1 and 2 so good.
Pre-sequel so bad you forgot about it😂😂😂
Borderlands 1 - TFTBL was so good. It had some minor hiccups along the the way, but everything felt consistent and mysterious (in looks and story) we even had big cliff hangers in the tales and pre sequel endings. But then Borderlands 3 came out and just ruined it all with horrible decisions. All while lacking any of the soul of the previous games. Ever since then they keep just keep making it worse somehow.
Oh wow this is a full video
I will definitely check this out later then.
I want to see it but I'm not sure yet, I'll check it out after watching your video
I'd personally say, still go and see it even after watching this because you might feel different about the movie to joltz
Joltz u should get into a position to write future game/movie stories for Borderlands literally your destiny bro no better person.
WITH KEVIN HART AS ROLAND!?!? U guys really thought…? that shi is just nah… like they needed a popular actor as padding??? IDK but wtf bro😕
Roland last I remembered wasn’t a comedian was he guys? Unless I missed something 💀
PS: going to copy and paste this bc want to hear peoples opinions sorry if annoying.
@@tylercale69 Thats completely fair tbh
@M4SKED2001 Its what I did. And after watching it myself, I don't entirely agree with Joltz but I do understand, respect and agree with some of his points. I liked the movie but I didn't love it. For me it was a 6/10
Don't do it, the movie is just pure Hollywood garbage
This is truly a common gun movie
"Adult Ava" explained it all.
This movie could have been like any Deadpool movie BECAUSE BORDERLANDS HUMOR AND ACTION IS LIKE DEADPOOL'S... THEY HAD 3 EXAMPLES OF HOW TO MAKE THE MOVIE... but they did this