Literally EVERY Borderlands Gun Manufacturer Explained (1, 2, TPS and 3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- A video That been in the works for a while, this is EVERY borderlands games manufacturers explained, from how each look, how they perform, to the lore behind them and how they developed over the years to become the iconic brands we know and love, enjoy!
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:12 - Borderlands 1 Intro
1:39 - Atlas
2:00 - DAHL
2:18 - Eridian
2:49 - Hyperion
3:27 - Jakobs
3:44 - Maliwan
4:20 - S&S Munitions
4:51 - Tediore
5:27 - Torgue
6:06 - Vladof
6:52 - Who Made What
10:04 - Borderlands Outro
10:37 - Borderlands 2 and TPS Intro
11:28 - Bandit/Scav
12:30 - DAHL
13:36 - Hyperion
14:50 - Jakobs
15:42 - Maliwan
16:31 - Tediore
18:10 - Torgue
19:26 - Vladof
21:41 - Who Made What
23:19 - Borderlands 2 And TPS Outro
24:32 - Borderlands 3 Intro
25:18 - Atlas
26:43 - COV
28:25 - DAHL
30:01 - Hyperion
31:36 - Jakobs
32:48 - Maliwan
34:20 - Tediore
36:12 - Torgue
38:29 - Vladof
40:46 - Who Made What
42:58 - Outro - เกม
Fun Fact: It's revealed through radio ads in BL3, S&S aren't just still around, they canonically make the glowing beacon lights that alert you to items in the overworld. It's not just a gameplay feature, it's lore!
One of the things I like most about the Borderlands franchise is how much of what is considered "typical game play" (like respawning after ya get killed) is written into the lore.
@@ethancoatney727 the respawn machines are part of the lore but its non cannon (according to the presequel)
@@martin_crakc786 dont forget 3 sense Roland dies
@@voidfields5065 he forgot to pay his respawn machine universal subscription
They now arent like S&S amunitions, they are S&S utilities or smth, they prob make stuff like (idk if real or not this stuff is) the vending machines template so anyone wanting a shop can use it, drawers and tables ,forks ,spoons ,knifes ,plates, stuff like that,
Mt theory with tediore is that you don't buy a $10k gun. You buy 10K $1 guns.
bro tediore think we got that GTA BACKPACK
and if you think about it. repaer from overwatch used tediore.
@@carlosgarcia-pd4wqMr Torgue Hi Five Flexington in the overwatch universe confirmed?
@@LFXGaming as a Junkrat main, I approve of this message.
Yea idk why in BL3 rhys and katagawa make fun of tediore cause all it takes is 1 purple smg reload after 1 shot to kill 99% of enemies, the 1% is just leveld up goliaths
You forgot Gearbox, which is an in game manufacturer with legendaries, too.
Also, the Tediore reload is technically an issue. Their guns were meant to just instantly reload but they'd explode, so they just rebranded it as a feature.
So it’s not a bug…
Crazy that they couldn't solve the "gun explodes when reloaded" problem, but did solve the "create a gun out of thin air" problem.
@@superscatboyim assuming theres just a little digistruct machine you buy and its dedicated to digistructing only the gun
cheaper than making it function ig
in BL2 you dont actually fund hyperion at all because youre buying your weapons from Marcus, who just gets his stock from bandits and vault hunters or are otherwise looting them from enemies
reeeeeeeeeeeeespawn-hyperion bl2, we funded them by dying
@@krackedbeats5947 successful one-life playthroughs are the only difference there
@@krackedbeats5947 not Canon
Yeah but that New-U station respawn sure as hell is finding Hyperion, that’s why the robot voice of the station in bl2 once said (not word for word but along the lines of) “we support vault hunters until they aren’t useful anymore”
@@krackedbeats5947 I thought Randy already said that the Hyperion New You stations weren't canon. Which makes sense because why would Jack keep letting you respawn when he wants you perma dead. Just in case you say "Oh they want the money", then why allow the Vault Hunter to keep respawning to kill Jack himself and the Warrior? It would only make sense up until you reach that point (sense he does want to kill you himself so respawning would allow you to reach him).
Plus they are already rich as fuck and any money you make on the way could already be obtainable after he wiped all life on Pandora out, unless the Warrior burned everything. I thought the reasoning why they did that was because they thought it would be funny.
Something about Jakobs that you didn’t mention is their “cask aged gunpowder” so that every round fired has that signature Jakobs smell. They also made a gun that shoots out swords, for when you want to stab someone, but they’re too far away
I wonder what kind of oak Wainwright prefers for his casks.
@Chokah Applewood maybe
So they made a crossbow, lol
@@CorneliusTheWizardDog no
@@CorneliusTheWizardDog In Tina's DLC, there's a shotgun that shoots 3 swords that explode on impact, called swordsplosion
S&S munitions are still around just that they rebranded as S&S accessories which they are the lore reason for all the customization items like heads skins and the light beams that come from the guns you see on the ground, they stopped making guns because of how easy it was for random people to just build their own massive capacity mags.
yep
like Vladof and Dahl's drum mag？
@@lazie7786 well those too but mostly people were just able to take several standard mags, slice them and practically stitch them together to make a one big mag, you actually notice this with bl2 bandit ARs that don't use the belt feed mag, it's literally two mags fused together
yep, i still remember that, so interesting to me,
just can't believe those bandit or scav can make those functional gun just use the scrap.
*Innovation* ∠( ᐛ 」∠)＿
@@highrulerdiamond6717 those bandit guns were manufactured at a captured s&s factory
I always pictured Tediore as what you actually buy is a cheap portable digistruct system with one design hardwired into it When the gun leaves your hand it triggers a self-destruct and activates the digistruct module.
pretty sure thats the legit reason, i just love the idea they had of "okay so our weapons are terrible to shoot soooooooo what now" and that was their next idea
yeah its legit what it does.
tediore even says any smuck can use them as all you need to do is press trigger to shoot. toss when out of ammo.
and they even say only have 1 hand? u can still use a tediore :D
@@miciso666 "No thumbs required"
@@Chokah "I can't hold my own child"
Edit: dubbing isn't precise
I've always think of Vladof as the "If you can't aim, then just shoot more bullets at the enemy. Statistically, one of them is bound to hit... eventually"
Especially when you factor in that Vladof rocket launchers sometimes have free rockets.
It's like if Gaige's discord was turned into a whole gun manufacturer
If you through enough shit against a wall eventually they’re bound to stick
Accuracy by volume
For boarderlands 2 still prefer vladoff just slag em and dump a clio
Minor note on BL1 Tediore: All of their legendary and pearlescent weapons have innate ammo regeneration. That's like the whole gimmick on all of them.
One thing worth mentioning is that in Bl3 Torgue seemingly found a workaround for the whole "Laser=Not Explode" by making there laser gun also fire Micro Rockets thus creating the "Lasersploder"
Torgue: LASERS CAN'T EXPLODE!
Torgue to Torgue: YOU SKAG-LICKIN' B****! YOU JUST AIN'T F***IN' TRYIN' HARD ENOUGH! HAVE YOU TRIED ADDING MORE MOTHER F***IN' ROCKETS!?
Side note, Hyperion Sniper Rifles have a special unlisted mechanic where the longer you're scoped in, the more accuracy they gain, replacing the usual "gets more accurate as you fire". This change is reflected in the tags of the Hyperion snipers in 3, but not in 2 and TPS despite it being present.
That's no true, they state "Sustained fire and aiming down the sights increases accuracy", so it's reflected.
Apparently it's with all snipers Hyperion just does it faster.
Some times you can get a hyperian gun with the affect added, it makes it more accurate quickly. Instead of 5 shots to 100 accurate to 2 shots for 100 accurate
I actually like Dahl in BL3, but that might also just be me really liking the military aesthetic and the ability to swap fire modes to basically turn my assault rifles into sniper rifles.
True, their long barrel lmgs feels good
Dahl actually makes really good guns. They seem lackluster, but that's because they basically took over the role of Atlas from BL1, They've got all the accuracy of Hyperion and the firerate of Vladof with S&S magazine capacities and damage that frequently rivals old Torgue.
I used to avoid Dahl because the damage is a bit lacking compared to Jackobs, but then I played as Moze and discovered just how powerful the guns really are.
The legendary gun warlord drives me nuts tho lol, both cycles are burst only
When you think Tediore, you think of the people who made throwing an empty gun a viable combat method. You've definitely seen at least one action flick where a guy does it.
John wick when hes out of bullets lol
If you melee just after the gun leaves your hand you can infinite throw
"Tediore, the HiPoint of Borderlands guns."
Correction: Tediore didn't INTENTIONALLY create their unique reload. It came as an unfortunate defect after they experimented on newer, faster ways of reloading. Tediore couldn't fix it, so they marketed it as a "feature"--instead of "life-threatening"--added digistruct tech, and voila. Tediore's stock soared overnight
I like to imagine Hyperions Pistols became their SMG‘s as their SMG‘s this time in 3 look very much like Machine Pistols
The Hyperion pistols became both SMGs and shotguns. The BL3 Hyperion shotguns often end up being just slightly oversized pistols. Most likely, with Athena at the helm they decided to make their weapons more compatible with dual-wielding and off-hand use which then made their pistols redundant, that's my head canon anyway.
I miss S&S manufacturer. I loved their Thanatos and Orion legendary weapons. Especially with a high fire rate or x2 variant.
There is a rather well made mod for bl3 that replaces cov with s&s. Textures, names, legendary names, emails, even tweaks to reload animations!
@@Loderyod what's it called
@@MacaqueStinx "SnS Manufacturer Replaces COV" on nexus mods
@@Loderyod sick thanks
Yeah S&S was always pretty cool
Did someone notice that COV guns have bl2 gun parts as their own gun parts? The gun at 28:17 uses the torgue barrel (or the barrel that we mostly see on the stinkpot) another AR that uses Hyperion / Maliwan Stock, and another AR that is right before the 28:17 AR that uses an "flamethrower" barrel that was in bl2 on e tech SMG's
It would make sense. The guns use slapped together parts, so they no doubt built them from old, discarded firearms that no one used anymore because of new advances in firearms.
With Dahl and the burst fire fully auto thing, you can explain it as your character changing the firing mode whenever they aim down sights as most rifles are able to switch between fully auto and burst fire.
Part of why i loved the toggle feature in 3, because while i thought it was a cool gimmick in 2, sometimes i wanna dakka down range and sometimes i wanna plug 3 quick rounds at point blank range.
It could also be an implementation similar to some machine pistols, where the stock holds the mechanism for the other firemode and the toggle. Pressure on the stock or the shifted grip engages the burst limiter or disengages the auto-sear.
@@GremlinSciences Thats actually really cool, i had no idea that was a thing! now to go down a rabbit hole of machine pistol facts and videos, lol
Jakobs is my favorite manufacturer just due to their motto from BL2.
"If it took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jakobs."
They even say they're into home protection and a family!
31:05 in New Tales from the Borderlands, the Tediore CEO is talking to all gun manufacturers, including Wainright, Rhys, Torgue, Kategawa Sr. and Athena, i couldn't really figure out which company Athena owned, but the Hyperion shield theory makes sense
I think that the first Tales from the Borderlands hinted that Mr. Blake was gonna be the Hyperion CEO. And as EruptionFang went into detail about why it wouldn't work with her, Mr. Torgue, and to a extent Kategawa Sr.(model wise along with expecting the one sibling that Kategawa Jr. didn't kill) being the CEO's of those companies. That game was even more half assed than 3 with it's story and if anything most borderlands fans wish that it didn't exist with a recourse in it's story to feel more like 2 with it's balance of humor an seriousness.
@@mistermann4163 i wholeheartedly disagree the story in the first tales game is MILES head of borderlands 3. i can barely even make it through new playthroughs of 3 without just turning my brain off to the cutscenes and half the dialogue
@@JubioHDXhes talking about tales2 not tales1
I want to compare each manufacturer to a real world company.
Jakobs - Henry. Their dedication to levergats reminds me greatly of Jakobs. They also utilize wood and blued steel. They're also starting to make 9mm carbines.
S&S - Glock. A smallish company that makes guns, among other things, especially things related to weapons, but not directly weapons. Glock has, in the past, made doorknobs, shower curtain rods, entrenching tools, knives, and the links to link ammunition for firing from a belt fed. They also currently produce firewood and horse semen. I may be writing this to share this fact.
Vladof - The whole gamut of soviet arms designers. The USSR was quite weird with weapon manufacturing, with most of the weapons being made by state arsenals. The point was to arm as many soldiers as needed with simple weapons that could be easily trained on. During the Cold War, many of the soldiers that the USSR had were conscripts, and many of them came from villages with low literacy rates that lacked electricity and running water. A lot of them were effectively medieval peasants.
Hyperion - Heckler and Koch. They produce high end, exceptionally reliable firearms that are overbuilt for combat zones. They utilize often unusual mechanisms, such as the roller delayed mechanism present in many of their long guns, but primarily the G3 and the MP5. The MP5 specifically is known to run like a sewing machine, with minimal recoil and impressive accuracy under full auto fire. They also make some insane, off the wall weapons, like the G11, which is designed to use caseless ammo and has an internal mechanism more comparable to a clock than a gun.
Atlas - Wilson Combat. With Wilson Combat, we get into weapons that are more intended as luxury items and collector pieces, but are still not unreasonable to bring into combat. They utilize all sorts of hand fit parts and build their weapons to be as reliable as they are nice. They come with a price tag to match, however.
Dahl - Sig Sauer. They produce some of the best weapons for the money. Highly reliable, usually somewhat modular, especially their more recent stuff, like the MCX, P365, and P320. They have won the contract for the M17 and M18 series of handguns for the US Army and Marine Corps respectively, and the XM7 rifle (previously the XM5, but was renamed as Colt has a trademark on M5) and the XM250 machine gun are promising, even if I think it's an uphill battle to replace the 5.56 as the standard infantry cartridge. I do think that the XM250 could replace the M249 in a lot of roles, as it's lighter.
Maliwan - Kel Tec. Now, I'm not taking into consideration Kel Tec's reputation, but you can't deny they make some seriously innovative designs. The KSG is a pump shotgun which can cram a massive 14+1 rounds of 12ga into a barely above 26 inch package. The P3AT beat the LCP to the punch in practically microscopic .380s, and arguably beat the P365 to the ultra-compact concealed carry market by almost a decade, with the P9.
That's just a few, but if anyone has anything to add, please do.
Torgue- AMTEC. World leaders in explosive round and grenade technology. Not recommended for civilian use.
If it took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jakobs.
Counterpoint, Terramorphous
😂
I've always seen the Dahl burst fire thing as there being a Toggle Fire (like in Cod) that your character flips Automatically themselves when you ads
honestly thats probabaly right, my brain doesnt work in that way though so i just think MAGIC!? instantly
@@LFXGaming nah, I like to believe that the sights have a retinal scanner incorporated, because "uuUUUUUUH TECHY HEHEH"
@@M0D776 That also is a good idea and probably what it actually is lol, I mean if we have weapons like The Infinity Pistol and Sandhawk Smg (Seriously how in THE HELL can bullets form a "Flapping" Pattern like that without being sentient lmfao) a retinal scanner for automatic fire method swapping doesn't seem so far fetched
considering they changed it to modes you can switch directly in BL3, I'm sure it was a compromise in design in the older games. Would be awkward to have an extra key to remember just for one weapon manufacturer, but now half the weapons have some kind of mode toggle too.
@@Nirual86 from a game dev stand point that sounds pretty on the nose!
I have a theory on why Hyperion doesn’t produce pistols anymore, since Athena took over Hyperion and decided to integrate her old Atlas tech shield into the weapons, the pistol cant fit it, or its too small, so they phased out pistols for the sake of the shield tech
That's why Borderlands 3's Hyperion weapons have shields? Didn't know that.
I bet that Athena will find a way to create micro shilds that will fit on pistols.
i mean, if COV found a way to take ammo from your black-hole pack then surely Hyperion would make mini shild generators for pistols.
Great video, love a concise explanation of the BL guns and their evolution.
It always weirded me how in the Moze skill tree, there is a perk with a description that says, "if you want guidance, get a sherpa. If you want explosives, get a Vladof".
No you dont! You want explosives, get a TORGUE!!! i would say.
Have to remember Moze was a Vladof soldier so it makes sense skill quote would prefer Vladof.
to be fair explosive moze builds are some of the most fun i've ever had in an fps, especially with the dual nuke build. nothing says victory like pressing two triggers and turning everything withing a half mile into a fine red mist. vladofs guns may not make explosions very well, but their bears do!
Tediore weapons don't "magically" teleport back to your hands. After you throw a Tediore gun a new one is digistructed in your hands. It's an established technology in the game. It's how Gaige uses Deathtrap in BL2 as another example of something being digistructed in universe.
14:39 I just remembered, at the end of the final boss fight, I made sure that the gun that delivered the final shot to Jack was a Hyperion Gun, like a gun you produced was the reason you died.
shoulda made sure it was a white rarity to really let it sting too, like it wasn't just a gun you made, but a shit one at that.
I used a jakobs because I was determined to end that bastard in one shot.
Am I really gonna watch a 45 minute video on borderlands 2 guns.... yes I am
As a long term jacobs fan i'm happy they have essentially stayed the same throughout the games
BIG IRON ON HIS HIP
@@LFXGaming i unironiclly in real life practise gun tricks and quickdraw in my free time i indeed have a big iron on my hip
"Special operations foxhound... Revolver *gun spinning* ocelot"
CANT TOP PERFECTION BABY
“IF IT TOOK MORE THAN ONE SHOT, it wasn’t a Jakobs 😉”
Is it because the owner of jacobs is significant in bl3
I just noticed: The Gearbox manufacturer brand isn't in this video for Borderlands 1. seriously, there ARE guns that are Gearbox branded in Borderlands 1, and I've used a small handful of them.
Dont forget the trio of white rarity at the start of bl2. But yeah, they probably arent considered given how there are so few gearbox guns that actually exist.
@@jeremycocciolone9223 those gearbox weapons in BL2 dont have the custom manufacturer
@@bruhgod123 they dont? Thought they were all gearbox too. Oh well. My bad then.
@@jeremycocciolone9223They are gearbox branded skin / texture wise, but the manufacturer isn't, I believe they're a Jakobs sniper, Vladof AR, and Hyperion SMG.
Got this in my recommended and hey, great quality man! Didn’t even know Athena was running Hyperion doesn’t really seem like she would but if it’s to give janey a better life I can see it.
Tho holy crap that cutscene from the new tales game is so sad it’s literally just her pre sequel model
Yeah, Athena running Hyperion is a bit of controversial topic since the only proof for that is New tales wich aren't (or rather aren't considered by the community) cannon
@@Loderyod I won’t consider it canon. Just like how legends is canon and there’s only 6 Star Wars movies. Only 6…
@@pajamapantsjack5874 yep, exactly
I really hope they retcon the entirety of New Tales lol. So many bad decisions there.
The Closest thing we got to a Hyperion Launcher after BL1 was the Ion Cannon from the casino DLC in BL3. Such a missed opportunity considering it even drops from a Hyperion enemy but end up being manufactured by Vladof. The funny thing about it too was that it was busted on release.
I wouldn't say it was really busted because all they did was make it take 4 ammo instead of 1 per shot. Not like they halved the damage at the same time or anything.
My theory about bandit/scav weapons is that the bandits in Pandora have a select few who are smart bandits or idiot servants that make the weapons. In mine cart mischief Tannis says that some of the bandits used to be scientists who have gone mad over time. Those who used to be scientist now filled with bloodlust and a taste for blood made guns with more bullets to shoot people longer. Scav are well scavengers and I’m willing to bet most of them know their way around tech and some were very good at making guns despite being dumb.
I personally like Dahl weapons because they are pretty normal and convinient. They don't make your whole screen shake from explosions or create lasershow, sure, but sometimes simple fire mode switch is enough. Simple and effective
with hyperion being the bad guys in 2 it just makes it even funnier that the New-u are made and maintained by hyperion...and you pay money when you die...so yeah lol
A necessary evil
I think the stations are non-canon
@@wesleyeberly228 na they r canon, in the echo logs for gaiges backstory, she kills one of her classmates with deathtrap and the classmate comes back to life through new u station. The explanation for roland permanently dying is just borderlands is a story marcus tells to orphans and marcus is just a rlly bad storyteller 🙃
"Thank you for attempting to overthrow us. We are making considerable profits from your numerous deaths"
Yea, they deliberately keep bringing the Vault Hunters back out of corporate greed. Only making their deaths permanent when Jack want them to be, I.E: Roland
@@djerk2138 I always thought that the new-u’s work in the same way as the vita chambers in bioshock. If you die from physical trauma (you get shot too many times, in non-vital areas, or you fall off something high, etc.), it will revive you; if you’re dying from a disease or old age, or something, or are shot somewhere vital (like, heart or head), then you won’t be revived. So, you can assume that none of the playable characters get shot in the head or heart during the game: it’s not too much a stretch since lore-wise, injury is treated seriously. But Roland gets shot in the heart, which the new-u can’t fix, so he dies.
I heard the explosive reload in Tediore's weapon was actually a fault they couldn't fix so they rebranded it as a feature instead
Reminded how the Echo 2 is a grenade mode in Borderlands 3 because of a problem where it'd just explode if you so much as looked at it funny. Also, one of the few unique Common rarity items in the series.
The 2 separate features had the same hyperlink tag and it was not worth rewriting 2/3s of the game to fix
@@chriscobb2102 Are we talking about lore here or the actual game code itself? Based on what the OP is saying there, it sounds like in lore that the reason why Tediore guns are thrown in BL2 and onward is because of a design flaw in the weapons themselves that the company couldn't be bothered to fix.
@@chriscobb2102 I doubt that very much considering there is a whole animation for throwing the gun an then having a new one digitally reconstruct itself in you hands
@@49mozzer you mean at e3 when it was dang near completely finished... wink
Also interesting fact about COV guns, you can see the BL2 weapons parts to nail the theme of these guns being cobbled together and somehow working. Some examples that I noticed being the BL2 DAHL barrel on the Sawbar, Hyperion sniper stock on the Rebound, and the TORGUE gyro-jet barrel on a random COV AR.
Honestly thats a really cool little addition that adds to the worldbuilding of how these guns are made, it also warms my heart to see the old BL2 weapon parts updated in the Unreal 4 engine
Jakobs have the best slogan ever. "If it took more than one shot, you werent using a Jakobs"
The Hot Mama is also an elemental Jakobs gun in bl2
the borderlands series are some of the games of all time
So true
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I like Dahk in bl3 the most. I like having control over my fire rate and optics and having a brand that's just conventional but consistent and reliable. I just wish Dahl could have made shotguns and launchers, a burst fire/auto/semi-auto fast-firing shotgun would kick ass and the launchers could be either highly-accurate, high-speed projectile recoilless rifles or rapid-fire MLRS with the alt-fire being an arcing mortar-fire style of firing pattern like the hail from bl2
i do like them in 3 its just i had such a specific brand image attached to them it was sad to see it change, nostalgia bait probably. also DAHL Rocket launchers in BL2, BURST FIRE ROCKET LAUNCHER WHAT
@@LFXGaming that was another idea, Dahl rocket burst or the helix-style rotating rockets from 1
Watching your video really made me feel like Dahl should've gotten hyperion's shields in BL3 and Hyperion should have gotten a more laser feel to promote accuracy and potentially deal bonus shield/armor damage, that way their development in BL2 wouldn't feel wasted. But it doesn't fit lore as well.
I have a theory. Have you noticed that all weapons of purple quality or below look a lot like the legendary ones? I believe they were all legendary at some point, but from the moment they were sold by manufacturers or stolen, they started to wear out and their parts started to have problems, so they started using spare parts from other manufacturers. So a white torgue pistol was a Harold at its best, but the bad guys started fixing them as best they could and learned over time how to reverse engineer them.
bruh imagine going from the best weapon in the game to white crap you sell to get something else
no gearbox? time to redo the whole entire video!
fuuuuuuuuuuuuu..... but nah i wanted to only cover weapons available in every version of each game, ik the GOTY enhanced had them but in the end i decided not to, hope you can forgive me :o
@@LFXGaming Would the gearbox guns be interesting enough to go over in a short video?
@@LFXGaming In the regular game you can find the Rider under New Haven that is a gearbox gun.
@@brandonkoppes2950 you can also get a gearbox weapon in the final circle of duty mission.
the game once gave me a double anarchy with 71 accuracy, but still 4x200+ damage, which is pretty ridiculous.
First video I've seen of yours. Made me laugh out loud on multiple occassions. GG nice commentary, editing and personality.
Im suprised you never really mentioned how from borderlands 1 to borderlands 2/tps, that jakobs went from slow firing, to incredible fast firing - often being faster then you could pull the trigger, i feel it made significant difference between the two, as it went from a slow firing, methodical playstyle, to a much faster paced, guns blazing sort of gun - i know this was likely to accommodate for borderlands 2's more intensive gun-play, but still worth a small mention
Tediore is seriously slept on, there's a reason Joltz used them in so many speedkills. I think they're meant to represent bad-value dollar store products, and budget cars that nickel and dime you with services and repairs. Something Americans are extremely familiar with. Did you know this business model is why so many McDonald's places have broken ice cream machines?
Great video! It was funny, informative, and very well edited, will def be looking forward to more of your videos!
thanks man! ive got something in the works right now so watch this space!
Never enjoyed how Daul guns felt until BL3. In BL3 they were my favorite line of weapons because they finally nailed that COD/Battlefield feeling of arcadey militaristic. I also enjoy the variety of different firing modes for them instead of the consistent full auto hip/burst ads.
Great video mate, fascinating listening to how each corporation has developed over the years
Liked this video a lot. Good sum, very informative, interesting, structured and hella funny. xD good job
It's said by lore that tediore guns are so cheap that when you fire a magazine they malfunction and explode, so you just get another one, and they are so cheap that they are basically free, that's why they "appear" on your hands, they are actually being digistructed, so you are getting a new weapon every time you reload
My reasoning for Dahl guns having that weird mechanic was that the guns had a fire select feature integrated into the stocks and grips. You press a stock against your shoulder (or grip your pistol with two hands), it changes fire modes.
I can’t believe I recognized the background music from the start as that in the Motorstorm extras menu. That’s awesome.
Ayyyyye so cool to see someone recognising it! glad people still remember motorstorm
You’re way too slept on bro, that might be the best video I’ve watched in a long time only rivaling isahooten’s terraria comparisons.
About Dahl I have a theoriea on how the could work their automatic/burst shenanigans. I think the guns may know whenever you are aiming down sights by having a button on the buttstock. When the user is shooting by the hip, the button isn´t pressed so it fires auto, but while aiming down sights you have to push the buttstock into your elbow so your elbow activates the other modes of shooting
Mainly went to this video curious as to what S&S Munitions was ever since it didn’t seem to appear in any other game… so now I guess all the Bandit, Scav and COV weapons are essentially salvaged and improvised versions of the abandoned S&S weaponry mixed together with scraps bandits, scavs and the COV had scrounged up.
Glad I got this in my recommended, well done!
Maybe the reason Hyperion only makes 3 types of guns in BL3 is because of the fall of Handsome Jack and the events of Tales. Jack grew the company to great lengths but in exchange for killing off the higher ups. Then after Tales I think the lost of the space station and staff the company hit a new low with money. By BL3 it could be assumed that the company is now getting back on its feet. But to save money they had to cut production down to only 3 types of weapons. Who knows, maybe by BL4 they will have more weapon types again
What nice video! Was a great watch :D
thanks man glad you enjoyed it!
Great video good effort bro keep it up
ive only just came across this, and very well done pal
Keep bringing the borderlands content. Great video!
thanks man i really appreciate it!
Gotta love how Tediore went from pretty standard gun to walking-talking-throw-me-away-and-I-explode insanity.
Tediore's tech from the second game onwards is based on digistructing, the in-universe tech that allows you to summon cars, fast travel, and have a hammerspace backpack (hence why the backpack upgrades are memory cards). It's also the tech Gaige uses to summon & transport Deathtrap. Anything using digistruct tech gets constructed in the real world, converted into a digital code to be stored, and then gets built by the digistruct module when called on. Tediore weapons, rather than being a proper weapon, are more like the blueprint of a weapon.each gun is assembled with a pre-determined amount of ammo from your supply, and once thrown away another one is constructed from the blueprint right into your hand rather than waiting to reload.
Getting a gun that shoots a sword that explodes into grenades is kind of a plus. I love these games.
the swordsplosion is possibly the best idea of a gun ive seen, i would wanna be in whatever kind of drunken board room meeting that was invented in, "yo so you know explosions are cool or whatever but like EXPLODING SWORDS, now THAT is something i can get behind"
5:22 if memory serves in borderlands 2 trailers it says the Tediore founder lost his thumbs so they developed the throwable reloads, you can see him later in the video i think
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One of my favorite little things from Borderlands 3 were the "Clipper" prefix Jakobs guns. Mostly because they were literally M1 Garands, with the ping when emptying the clip...
The tediore reload makes more sense with the everyman cheapo theme if you think about how its like a "consumerism dont bother fixing anything just throw your trash away" thing.
I’ve always been a sucker for the Jakobs weapons they always seemed to suit the space western vibes of Pandora
35:58 Oh my God that's beautiful, the cabal from the Destiny video game series would love torque weapons.
I love that the cov weapons recyle parts from the borderlands 2 weapons in their builds
10:51 I'm sure Mr Torgue Flexington appreciates you letting him take part in this video.
I just noticed that the water pistol is a Dhal one too with the COV cooldown animations
As far as Dahl goes in BL2 and TPS I always just assumed that they were still technically full auto when ADS but the player character would squeeze the trigger for a more accurate burst rather than riding the lightning.
39:30 Well yeah, as Moze herself says when introducing herself to Claptrap, she used to be a soldier in the Vladof army, so that's why her gameplay in particular is so based, and so based around recreating that scene in The Godfather starring Sonny Corleone.
Very exhaustive video on the topic, one small note is sticky Torgue shots also blow up when you swap weapons as well
Have to say, im a Jacob's guy. A single shot hits like a truck, accurate, and fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. Learn how to use the recoil to aim, supplement with scatter grenades, and you are wiping out whole platoons in one go.
Scatter grenades work with everything
So Dahl knowing when you're scoped I can see a way they could do it, one time I made a robot out of lego using something called mindstorm and it had a small sonar thing that could detect objects infront of it out to about a metre or so. I think their guns have a sensor on the scope that detects if there's an object(like your face) close to it, it'd have to be pretty short range so as to not get tripped by your chest but it's possible
TLDR: sensor on the scope that can tell if there's something an inch or 2 away that switches you to burst
That bit about bandit mags is partly true, except is it actually super easy to have a huge magazine if your "magazine" is actually a box with an ammo belt in it, which I notice several of their rifles have. The thing is, a NORMAL magazine is basically a box with a spring in it, which can only be so complex, but that all goes right out the window with drum mags, which I notice they also seem to use a lot. That's where the complexity comes in, and reliability has always been an issue for drums, which is why militaries tend not to use them.
Story wise I don't know why Hyperion stopped making pistols. The real reason is because since they added a new manufacture, the consoles at the time (ps4 and xbone) didn't have the memory space to handle that big of an potential inventory generator. So, Tediore, COV, Maliwan, and Hyperion all lost a category or 2 of weapon type to make way for Atlas. Also the reason why they cut down on manufactures making their own type of shield, instead of having it be an attribute every shield.
You forgot to mention that COV weapons often use parts from the old weapons the manufacturers made in BL2, like the Dahl and Torgue rifle barrels and Jakobs revolver barrel
I think a really cool thing is how you tell the size differences between thw manufacturers, especially in BL3. Atlas in BL1, Dahl, Hyperion, and Maliwan are all ridiculously large enough to occupy and invade worlds. Meanwhile S&S, Tediore, and Jakobs feel vastly smaller(Jakobs was small enough that Aurelia truly believed she could buy it) and even then Jakobs had enough money to set up operations on Gehenna and then bomb large parts of the planet. Even the companies size changing between games such as Hyperion growing smaller after BL2 and losing the rights to Atlas, and how that reflected by the types of weapons downsizing.
So at about 12:15, you mention that you saw a comment on an EruptionFang video about how magazines are one of the most difficult parts of a gun to get right, so I looked up "ErputionFang S&S," and saw a two and a half minute video discussing them, and saw that a comment I made about magazine reliability was the top comment. So it's cool to think I might have influenced this video somewhat.
I only wish that games going forward had legacy weapons that were callbacks to the older ones in the series. Even though S&S doesn't make guns, you would still be able to find them in their original format... Same with eridian. My favorite weapon in all of the games was the eridian thunder shotgun.
It's funny i was so young when i first hopped on 2 (or any borderlands game anyways) i HATED hyperion weapons and never even wanted to pick one up . Because they felt bad to me ? No , because HYPERION BAD.
Kinda based
I hated hyperion weapons because of that god awful accuracy. Except for shotguns, hyperion shotguns are usually pretty good.
@@Gash_Kobeth until You get firerate+ perk of your character and achieve max accuracy in 0,5 secs on a pistol😎👍
I've hated every Hyperion weapon in Bl3 except for their rapid-fire shotguns.
@@Gash_Kobeth they have great accuracy lol what
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the phycos for bandit could have possibly produced the Teck if, they had any of their previous or past memories in which they can recollect on kind of like Kreig in 3 with the Dlc of his brain where we see his sane and insane sides.
Miss Tediore just kept hearing "that guns dont kill people, people kill people", while forgetting to air out her garage of break cleaner fumes.
Dhal
Malawian
Valdof
Cov
Atlus
And toruge are personally my manufacturers in the whole series
Vladof are my favorite because you get a decent magazine size without the stat sacrifice of bandit weapons. I've owned Vladif snipers that had 19 bullets.
Somebody’s probably already said this but Moze actually fought for Vladof Corporations private army in the Ursa Corps, a mechanized combat division. There she achieved the rank of Gunner First Class. She left with her iron bear mech after a suicide mission at Darzaran bay left her entire squad dead and her superiors assuming she has also been slaughtered.
Also apparently her full name is Moserah Hayussinian Yan-Lun al-Amir Andreyevna, so yeah, maybe shortening it to Moze was a good idea.
Tediore guns will forever be my favourite guns from borderlands 1 to borderlands 3
Dude, you're going to take off if you keep this quality up. And I'll be here for the ride.
Just remember, take a lesson from Jontron and Internet Historian. People are willing to wait for quality. And we're willing to wait for you to do it without burnout. Keep at it, my man, I can't wait to see what you do next!
thank you man i really appreciate it! im working on something big rn taking my time so hopefully youll enjoy that!
Tediore are my favorite bc I had guns where I'd literally just shoot 1 bullet then reload to insta-kill almost any enemy. The explosion damage was insane amounts of burst in BL2.
Back in Borderlands 1, it should be noted that Machine Pistols and Repeater Pistols were considered "sub types" that shared an ammo pool, but revolvers were a different class of weapon entirely. Machine pistols were more like Submachine Guns that benefitted from pistol skills, Repeater pistols were kind of like mini-rifles in terms of oomph and having tiny magazines, and Revolvers were damage-centric. Also, every revolver manufacturer but I think Maliwan could make a Masher, which turned the Revolver into a shotgun.
Also, if you're perhaps a bit TOO familiar with specific gun parts in Borderlands 2, you can recognize specific recycled components in COV guns. Their "assault rifles" in particular I know use both the Dahl and Torgue barrels (or at leas their furniture) either directly or as barrel shrouds and handguards.
Maliwan was always my favorite. I loved them all in their own way, but maliwan just spoke to me. I only ever played Bl1 & BL2 though, so I don't know anything of the lore or what happened afterwards. I loved those games, back when I gamed. I'm an old man now.
dahl can know when you aim down sights by feeling the increased pressure of the shooter shouldering the rifle, for pistols/unstocked smgs a users grip changes a lot so they can measure the peasures down the grips and decide if the the gun is being more precisely aimed
i like the multi level marketing, FlatPak style weapons of tediore in BL3
OK the Dahl burst fire when aiming down sights could be accomplished by a pressure mechanism on the shoulder pad for rifles or smgs, pistols could have a similar component on the bottom of the grip where your off hand would push out when you're aiming down sights with a two handed grip