VAR Intervenes Twice in Taking of PK, Red Cards for Austin FC Players?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Catch another episode of Instant Replay with Charlie Davies as he breaks down the most controversial plays of week 19
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The references to the laws of the game has made this segment so much better than in the past where this had a "lets share our opinions about the calls and all are equally valid" type feel. Fans can actually learn why the calls are the way they are and appreciate the difficult job of a referee rather than react to their feelings about the plays. This matters especially for youth soccer where refs have to put up with a loud entitled parents who know even less about the rules than their own kids.
I still miss Simon Borg though, he will forever be irreplaceable.
Completely agree, and thanks for possibly suggesting a 'special You Tube VAR video FOFA rules on these typical situations, Anderson. I tried to alert, in vain, ESPN etc. during last/recent Euro 2020.
We all know that humans don't have 'eagle's eyes', despite the official top games referees and linesmen/women are regularly trained with hundreds of hours for dissecting and quickly
... 'autopsy'-deciding on those situations. Tough job! That they also over their hearing plugs get the (sometimes late alarm) help of their other specialist colleagues in the dark room, confirm, and truly show, the role of good VAR multi angle cameras in football, and possibly the best tool and renovation in human 'soccer' history. Yeah, a history that contains, among others, 'The Hand of God' by Matadona, and the 1966 Wembley's Final, a highway robbery technically, some 55 Yeats ago. Let put them to rest, just water under the bridge now.. Amen. ;=)
It's just a game, a Beautiful one.
Kandahar and Kabul, and/or 'No Panic on the Titanic' are much, much more ugly and "real" now.
"The horror, the horror" -- Joseph Conrad. ;=/
I agree. Whether these rules are good ones or not is a different one. And there is no room for interpretation.
Wow, Montreal's penalty taking is, even with the slight encroachment by the keepers, woeful.
Keeper should be able to move as soon as the whistle is blown imo. We're already grossly disadvantaged in the scenario and the line rule has to be the icing on the cake.
@Victor van Doom Race to the ball? Keeper would then be chipped because the taker would know to adjust their distance for the new rule, effectively forcing the keeper out for an easy chip. The meta would be for the keeper to close at least a 3ft gap from the goal line or yes to attack the ball if the taker is 20ft away. It's a penalty tradeoff, plain and simple. Their far away? Jump onto the ball. Up close? Close the gap enough to where reading and reaction saves are more doable.
In terms of the official rules, I have no issues with the outcome of that crazy penalty situation with NYRB. But, it’s really crappy that a player can stutter so much that he essentially comes to a complete stop, and the goalkeeper then is penalized for assuming the last second stutter won’t happen and coming a small step off his line. The stutter step should be outlawed, or a keeper coming off his line should not be penalized if the kick taker doesn’t maintain a fluid run up and kicking motion.
I like this take. If the kick taker does stutter step then the goal keeper is not penalized. That would be a good fix to PKs. Or just get rid of the stutter step. The kick taker is already at a huge advantage. The stutter step feels like cheating. Let’s get rid of it.
It's almost as bad as the balk rules in baseball.
Yeah. Goalkeeper should only have to stay on his line for one full second after the start of a run-up.
The stutter step should now be illegal
I always feel that stutter step is unfair, shooter has complete control over it, can be unpredictable for the goalie, I really feel it should be illegal
If VAR is going to be that hard on goalkeepers, then they need to have a camera showing the 18 to see players entering the box before the kick. I am sick of seeing one sided reviews on adherence to the rules. Also, NYCFC should get red cards just for playing at their rival's pitch.
If a player stutters steps i feel like it should be ok for a gk to get off his line. Im not even a nyrb fan but I feel bad for them
If they expect keepers to stay put the stutter step should be eliminated, one fluid motion for pks
Austin/RSL was a fucking mess, and not just in the normal “Austin FC is a mess” way
The fact that a keeper can’t be a step off his line but field players can stutter step will never fail to baffle me.
Wow! Really good job chuck! Can you guys please let Charlie continue to do this segment solo? It was so much easier to watch and his voice is smooth. Apologies to the absent host but his voice grates my ears and I just enjoyed today segment so much more with Chuck being solo. I think it’s a little better to have a single informed point of view on these calls anyway. Much more coherent than usual. Didn’t leave me with so many questions like normal. And yes, Chuck taking time to go over the laws was so nice. Thanks!
That "Leg on the line" rule is not fair to the goalkeepers, if you have to stand on the line then the kicker shouldnt be able to do a slow walk, jump or any other bs they do before kicking. It is only fair. I don't get why the kicker gets all the advantage
Exactly! There’s already such a slim chance of a keeper making a save, off of the kick, why give the striker even more opportunity?
A PK isn’t supposed to be an advantage for the defending team as well.
@@ElMoRoCkiN it also shouldn’t completely disadvantaged them. Realistically you should score every single time you take a PK
@@ElMoRoCkiN Penalties usually come from a moment that most of the time wouldnt end up in a goal... its already a huge advantage to shoot a pen...
Penalty kicks aren't really supposed to be fair. It's a punishment for denying the other team an opportunity to score by fouling them
I like that you are explaining the rules for people that don’t know them but that slide tackle was a blatant red.
The Silva clearance was clean in my opinion but players have gotten red cards for that in the past, most notably Balbuena and Vestergaard of the Premier League.
6:23 "Follow through" STRAIGHT into the knee, AKA foul.
There were only controversial calls in three games all weekend?
Woulda liked to see Brad Smith’s takedown of Mora in the box, seemed like a pk to me but I was at the stadium and have only seen one clip of one angle. Not like it would’ve made a difference if it was a pk lol
I much prefer this format of the show. Davies took the time to actually explain the rules of the game and how they applied.
Also, goalkeeper encroachment is such a bullshit rule. PKs are already a huge disadvantage for keepers, penalizing them for coming 3 inches off the line is trash.
Good segment Davies.
03:35.
No that's not a red card. It's not even a foul. It sucks to be on the end of it, but he clearly gets the ball first and doesn't have two feet up.
It's just an awkward contact.
No review on L.A. Galaxy's Efrain Alvarez foul?.. the guy from Minnesota only got a Yellow card and went hard with studs up...
VAR is used for matching fixing
I've been watching football all my life, and I never knew keepers aren't supposed to move off the line before the kick...
"Making his body unnaturally bigger"... Spoken like a true striker, Charlie. Spoken like a true striker.
That silva tackle would have been a red in the Premier and champions league. A few players were sent off for exactly the same type of tackle.
I agree the 1st Cascante tackle was a red, the 2nd was a joke. The offensive player kicks the ball past him and flops so easily when Cascante 'pulls' back on him. Aside from the fact it was offside, it was a clear flop. The VAR protocols are a joke when it comes to 'clear and obvious' error in regards to diving. To have VAR say it's a dive, there has to be 0 contact. Dives can have contact, it's a joke that it has to be no contact for the ref to consider a dive.
So can a goalie come off the line once the attacker taking the pk hits the ball?
As soon as the ball is hit by the striker, the goalkeeper can come off their line, yes
Thank you for the vids
I think that on the second penalty the taker fully stopped his body meaning that the penalty shouldn't have been retaken
Jesus, please do more than 3 or 4 games, and maybe include some parts where the ref is wrong. The reffing in the Portland vs Seattle game was horrible for both sides, but you refuse to show it.
I’m a Portland fan and I don’t think it was
He showed examples on where the ref was wrong. The horrible tackle on Bobby Wood he said was wrong. The Gibbs tackle he said was wrong. The DOSO red which was actually offsides he said was wrong. There's 3 examples right off the top of my head. Perhaps you can actually watch the video before you talk out of your ass. Though I agree more games would be better.
So you're saying the first foul where he gets contact on the ball but scissors the player with both legs should be a red(2:39), but the player doing a slide tackle at 7:00 scissors a guys leg with a double leg tackle, doesn't win the ball but ends up hurt and the guy who's standing and wins the balls receives a yellow card? Those are contradictory outcomes for the same scenario.
check rapids vs LAG next instant replay. la had some iffy fouls here
I didn’t get to watch the game, how bad was it?
@@caitlynnehaworth2798 there was one call at the beginning where lewis was shoved in the box, clear pen.. nothing. then later yarbrough was hit going for a ball, no foul there. and some more i don’t remember. it was rowdy
@@AeroPUBG yikes, I’m waiting for the highlights to be posted. Hopefully they actually show some of the fouls.
If there is a a stutter step that draws a goalie encroachment or is meant to give an advantage to the kicker then there shouldn’t be a stutter step. It’s always an obvious advantage for the kicker in a situation where they already have an advantage.
Don't get The DOGSO but he was last defender and denied a goal scoring opportunity
So sad for NYRB
PK? We never say that in football
I think Julio Cascante clearly Lounged in either stepping on Bobby wood or took a shove on him but caught the ball but seriously hurt wood should of been a RED card
Why does the referee use a on-field Review for the penalty retakes? Thats a factical decision as the VAR protocol says and so it would be enough, if the VAR just communicates to the ref to let retake the pen. That would be so much faster. Same with the offside calls.
MLS does it with both, they want center ref to make the call, even when it's objective.
I love this program
Stupid rule that the goal keeper has to stay on the line.
Poor Juventus!!! They would never ever ever ever win in this league. With so many VARs they wouldn't be able to buy any match :(
If I were a professional goalkeeper, I would simply dive to the left or to the right.
These tackles where a player extends himself beyond control and gets his leg stomped, kicked, or twisted is as much the reckless endangerment of oneself as it is for opposition. Much like where the player was unlucky that his knee was caught in a follow through (which I disagree as unlucky since there was certainly no expectation of being able to launch a ball downfield in a clogged middle), when two players stretch for a ball and either one of them gets hurt its on themselves.
You’ve never played the sport at a high level if you think that one was a red.
The issues you're missing with this is when you come in late to that extension you're now putting force through an extended and planted leg that is bearing weight. It is one of the most vulnerable times for the leg in just about every way. Putting force through that can and has caused serious injuries
Well this shows that major league football, is not so major 😂
Omg not a simple good penalty was taken lol
6:46 the defender was using excessive force which was putting the attacking player in danger i think
The Silva tackle at 6.10 is very similar to the red card given to Danielsson in the Sweden - Ukraine game in the Euro 2021. IMO the action of following through with a full swing here is reckless and dangerous. Definitely more of a red card than Danielsson's.
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Is this a real MLS page? This dude's opinions tend to suck....
Wow
Montreal FC benefitting from a twice saved PK has solidified my hate of French Canadians
Look at the back line when the ball was actually touched..... the backers were in motion towards defending the goal box and Justin was CLEARLY in an onside position. How can you not see that!? They didn't review the offsides for that very reason. Can't win them all but thanks for your opinion. You can only understand what you think you know. Good luck! I have know idea why this popped up but it solidifies why I don't follow unknown wannabes. I'll continue to follow those who truly understand the game. No hard feelings!
He literally has a frame where you can see from the defenders standing on the grass Justin is clearly offside. The motion or direction of the defenders or the offensive players are irrelevant. Offsides is basically if we took a snapshot of the second the ball was touched was the offensive player beyond the last defender. If yes it's offsides. It doesn't matter if the offensive player is running away from goal and the defenders back towards it
@ 5:44 both defenders are either over the line between the darker and lighter grass or completely on the lighter strip. Justin meram is in the middle of the dark strip. He is clearly and obviously offsides
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there has to be a thorough study on the bets at montreal game. The referee wouldn't leave the game finish unless montreal scored. There is no excuse for such parody. Bets on fixed games usually take place in Thailand including chinese companies. And this was a clear and obvious fixed game.
No one watches this anymore
Go watch La Liga then so you don’t have to come to this channel and whine.
2000 people in the first two hours say you’re wrong.
You are wrong about the sending off. I have watched football for over 55 years. It is sad how football has become so soft. Your idea of dangerous play is typical of your generation. The “could have resulted “ mantra is so sad. For years English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish (both of them) football was hard but fair. Sadly years ago FIFA started inferring with the domestic game. Refs were told to ref the continental way or your never get to ref EUAFA /FIFA matches. Jimmy Greaves a great footballer, said he no longer liked football because the lack of contact. The interpretation of dangerous play is now at such a low bar. Just a few thoughts from a guy who loved football ⚽️
In my day you’d pull your opponent’s arm off and bludgeon him with it, and the ref would just tell the armless guy to get up. Then after the match you paid the team owner for the privilege of being on his pitch. Try telling the kids today that!
Yes it's such a shame that rules should be in place to protect the health and well being of athletes isn't it. I mean it's absolutely absurd that they would even consider this whole new "concussion substitution" rule in MLS, USL and other leagues. Players should never last more than 2, maybe 3 seasons max after all.
Sorry but no.
qprdongjing: Mr whacker, you must be a vennie jones fan...
You do realize the guys who play now move at a faster average pace and have more mass than they did over a decade ago right? The forces involved goes up. The strain that every piece of these players bodies experience every play has gone up.
But youre the same kind of person who would think taking helmet to helmet hits out of American football has wussified the game