LA Galaxy’s Martín Cáceres Earns Silly Red Card After Entering Referee Review Area

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  • Andrew Wiebe and former FIFA referee Christina Unkel breakdown the latest controversial plays of the weekend.
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  • @CLBCrew96
    @CLBCrew96 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Not sure if I’m the only one but I love this series. I get excited when I see it on my feed.

  • @JCcollazos1
    @JCcollazos1 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I blame the coaching staff for this LA Galaxy squad. Players are undisciplined. Easily rattled by pressure. A well disciplined team will not get distracted. Win or lose, its a long season, many strong teams in this league. What next?

    • @AthenaTheWolf58
      @AthenaTheWolf58 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Blame the FO. They haven't done anything relevant since Donovan.

    • @JCcollazos1
      @JCcollazos1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AthenaTheWolf58 What?

    • @sephlar
      @sephlar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AthenaTheWolf58 They play in a small time college stadium an hour south of LA proper. And the coach blame everyone but himself.

    • @icomarv17
      @icomarv17 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carson Milkyway. Must be all the mold and dust from their 5 championship trophies going to their heads.

    • @choduffield
      @choduffield ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AthenaTheWolf58 What did the FO do to get Donovan? The league manipulated their own system to get Donovan on the LAG as Donovan wanted to live in LA and the league saw it best for the league if he was in it.

  • @letti4285
    @letti4285 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The nerves of some St Louis fans to say the refs favoured the Sounders.. 😂😂

  • @noahtalley4351
    @noahtalley4351 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When you’re on a yellow, you should know better than to enter the referee’s review area and most certainly not touch the ref! Easy 2nd yellow!

    • @sakuraisp6974
      @sakuraisp6974 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ref should warn in the first place
      That was too much for red card

    • @jacobcriss5624
      @jacobcriss5624 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you should know better than to attempt communication with the higher life forms, especially as they contemplate the mysteries of the game. Get off it. He laid a hand on his shoulder to talk to him. The ref’s ego took over.

    • @noahtalley4351
      @noahtalley4351 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jacobcriss5624 Entering the review area alone is a cautionable offense with or without him touching the referee! So he really pushed his luck!

    • @jacobcriss5624
      @jacobcriss5624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not saying it’s not technically a rule (in the sense that any dissent is cautionable), but the referee has to use his judgment. “He entered the review area” is a charmin-soft reason for a second yellow. I really don’t care for the Galaxy, but this sort of call, compensating for lack of perceived authority (due to, frankly, inability to properly officiate) with ego calls, is all too common nowadays.

    • @letti4285
      @letti4285 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Im betting Cáceres and the other red card from the Galaxy was to avoid playing in El Tráfico

  • @aaronpropes9134
    @aaronpropes9134 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When was the protocol created/enacted for dealing with abuse that the referees don't hear? I know I had to deal with that a couple times back in my referee days; and although me and my crews handled it much as you described it, actually having a protocol would have make it a lot easier to work with the coaches and players - whenever something like that happens emotions go through the roof, but it might have helped, even a small amount. I'll put my old man stick away now.

    • @WesleyHoy
      @WesleyHoy ปีที่แล้ว

      As a referee, and one who started at 13 years, I've seen a lot of abuse in my days. There's a good NYT article about how many young referees along with vets are leaving the job in droves, and it shows. Assignors are always begging, and if you say yes, you're going to be doing games all day. This past recertification there was a large emphasis on referee and player abuse, so I hope this issue starts to get treated more seriously.

    • @covfefe9646
      @covfefe9646 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you watched MLS Wrap Up on Apple TV you would’ve seen them describe their protocol on that situation. They spent a good 5 minutes or more talking about it

    • @frpgplayer
      @frpgplayer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've done hundreds of games. Unfortunately, I enforce the laws of the game.
      My assessor gave me high grades. The assignors said I wouldn't go far calling all this stuff. Let them play.
      Amazingly, my games were controlled and the temperature of the game held.
      I see other games of loose rules and the games go bonkers. The refs are the ones they promoted that let them play. Lack of control, behavior, heat, etc.
      A lot of young refs quit. I would AR for them and in the end, they just give up with parents and coaches. I tossed enough of the problem children. Leagues don't want it.
      Retired now.

  • @pcoccoli
    @pcoccoli ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No mention of the uncalled foul on Guzan that will have him out 10-12 weeks? Cool cool cool...

  • @Not_a_smart_man
    @Not_a_smart_man ปีที่แล้ว +11

    9:00 unkel says you can be too close to play, very true. It seems strange but actually being farther from play 10-12 yards gives you a better view of most things

    • @ARandomRandy
      @ARandomRandy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a referee one of the most important things I've learned is: Angle matters more than proximity.

  • @jacobcriss5624
    @jacobcriss5624 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Now do the no-call on clearing out Guzan, the yellow on Giakoumakis for pulling out of a tackle and making minimal contact, the no-review on Etienne being brought down by the last man, the scissor tackle by Chanot that went unpunished, and the inexplicable 10 minutes of extra time in the second half after only 3 minutes in the first despite longer stoppages. Pineda was right about Fisher on the night.

    • @brandonduncan6216
      @brandonduncan6216 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I totally agree, entienne should’ve had a goal too, everyone thinks he offside but they paused the freeze frame after the ball was kicked, that’s why, he was completely onside i stg

    • @simonhimself1
      @simonhimself1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was at the game behind goal. It was brutal to watch up close. Red Bull also rammed into guzan last weekend. No yellows. Nothing.

    • @johnevans8268
      @johnevans8268 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You have to remember, Wiebe and team are employed by MLS/Apple so there is no way they are going to be 100% objective about the horrible state of refereeing we all see every week. Mark Geiger is GM of PRO, that should tell us all we need to know about how things are going to go.

    • @oliveroren5627
      @oliveroren5627 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandonduncan6216 clear offside. I have absolutely no idea what u r talking about

    • @brandonduncan6216
      @brandonduncan6216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oliveroren5627 you’re blind, he is within the line of last defender and on the replay they freeze frame it way after the ball was kicked

  • @bradenbowen8718
    @bradenbowen8718 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That Seattle one definitely should of been a red, could of broken roldans ankle or leg

    • @twodudesnape2990
      @twodudesnape2990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn't the only hard challenge on him that went unpunished in the game too

  • @kathyice9100
    @kathyice9100 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was Alex Roldan, not Christian.

  • @jjfro
    @jjfro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So we just breeze over and don't review Colorados 3 fouls in the box in the last 15 minutes of the game none of which were called? I assume because both teams are non factors at the moment.

    • @benwblack
      @benwblack ปีที่แล้ว

      SKC fan here. I was very surprised that none of those were called or sent for review and none were shown on this video.

  • @Greenleader1000
    @Greenleader1000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clint Dempsey got a red card for Evander’s elbow

  • @citizenclown
    @citizenclown ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude literally uses his arm to smash the dude in the face, she's like "not a weapon". WTF?

    • @josiasroach5601
      @josiasroach5601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you a referee? Did you become a Fifa referee? Didn't think so

    • @citizenclown
      @citizenclown ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@josiasroach5601 but you see, we all have eyeballs and can see him raise his arm and lead with it in his challenge in an abnormally high way, that smashed his face. So no I'm not an MLS ref. I did coach Select. I have a brain. Sorry yours was castrated.

    • @jacobcriss5624
      @jacobcriss5624 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, only those who have been crowned Referees can see when an appendage is being used as a weapon. Good call.

    • @noahtalley4351
      @noahtalley4351 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Leading with the arm? Yellow!
      Leading with the elbow? Straight Red!
      Elbow isn’t cocked and he’s within his rights to try to defend the ball! Yellow!

    • @citizenclown
      @citizenclown ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noahtalley4351 yah, I'm not arguing yellow or red. More just her comment was ridiculous. He led the attack/challenge high at the guys face with his arm, strong. Whether he tried or not for the face, that's only known by the guy that did it. ✌️

  • @Greenleader1000
    @Greenleader1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Refs just don’t give any Roldan respect, not even a Var review? Come on

  • @DavraxReigns
    @DavraxReigns ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Of course they won’t mention any of the actual tough calls cause they don’t want to highlight just how bad the PRO organization has been with their choice of refs. Guzan is out for twelve weeks for another injury this time caused by a uncalled foul from Drew Fischer. What a joke

  • @DarkKirby14LP
    @DarkKirby14LP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, Wiebe actually isn't biased against Seattle again
    what is this world?

    • @choduffield
      @choduffield ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it's just that he calls them as he sees them (which is in line with most non-Seattle fans) and that there's something else going on....

  • @vixentori17
    @vixentori17 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seattle should have won the red, the fact that I was able to see it from my desk but somehow VAR wasn't is annoying. I am also shocked of how bad LA Galaxy have gotten, they need to cool their heads or they are really going to be up a creek.

    • @seattlefreakinsports
      @seattlefreakinsports ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That missed Red in Seattle shocked me. I saw the replay and was stunned that there wasn't even a review

    • @CLBCrew96
      @CLBCrew96 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate Seattle and agree that a 100% red card. No idea how they don’t review that

  • @CharlotteFCFan
    @CharlotteFCFan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Costa learning from Ronaldo lmao

  • @davidt3956
    @davidt3956 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The arm on Gressel was intentional, should have been a red card

  • @batigol2093
    @batigol2093 ปีที่แล้ว

    Galaxy is a disaster,Klein,Beckerman,Vamney,AEG,Costa,Caceres,Hernandez,Coulobaly,etc. All of them need to move their circus act to another city sooner the better.

  • @11c00lj
    @11c00lj ปีที่แล้ว

    Studs hit Dylan Nealis in the chest. The San Jose player was coming in studs first to a ball over his hip and raised his leg high to get it.
    "Pulling back" doesn't mean enough here. Studs first with a leg over the waist should matter more.

  • @Jhon-py2ko
    @Jhon-py2ko ปีที่แล้ว

    The match ends after seven yellow cards seven playing teamates can not defend four starters on the field ten players of the rival side. 11-8 men game is the situation. 0-3 the home team forfeits. The refs are dropping red and right for fun.

  • @joaogaspar2472
    @joaogaspar2472 ปีที่แล้ว

    3.50 In this case you need to be sure if the player is in a off side position. For me the defender on the far side of de Assitant referee is putting him in a onside position. This cases can be really difficult to make a decision.

  • @Jhon-py2ko
    @Jhon-py2ko ปีที่แล้ว

    The team of officials in the match here are authority of the MLS and whistle as trained profesionals.

  • @tornaperinso1484
    @tornaperinso1484 ปีที่แล้ว

    MIA vs DAL has to be an offside rather than a foul. The offside is clear.

  • @GabitzuV
    @GabitzuV หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only the head referee is allowed to look at the VAR monitor.

  • @newguyiswinning
    @newguyiswinning ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Terrible weekend by Pro. Warrants an apology knowing all the terrible calls and handling of the games

  • @simonhimself1
    @simonhimself1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Collectively the refs had a terrible weekend. So many bad calls throughout the league.

  • @Thegiraffe509
    @Thegiraffe509 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:12 lol😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MjB12345
    @MjB12345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good checking and use of var on the first clip

  • @Xcrampo
    @Xcrampo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    being a soccer referee, this series really helps!

  • @xxe2
    @xxe2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i never forget this guy best player for me when i played pes 2013

  • @ambrascetnarwhal2695
    @ambrascetnarwhal2695 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:24 if not for the foul, it was also offside.

  • @aidangerdis4901
    @aidangerdis4901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imma be honest he sounds so depressed

  • @Jacobito1977Mid
    @Jacobito1977Mid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your show :)

  • @greysouljr8913
    @greysouljr8913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you do that in English Premier League, you get Red Card plus banned for 5-7 matches

    • @sakuraisp6974
      @sakuraisp6974 ปีที่แล้ว

      He touched nicely tho

    • @greysouljr8913
      @greysouljr8913 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sakuraisp6974 its forbidden for player came to referree when he check VAR

    • @choduffield
      @choduffield ปีที่แล้ว

      Do what? There are a dozen plus plays in this segment.

  • @DxD93
    @DxD93 ปีที่แล้ว

    LA galaxy really thriving to be the worst team in MLS

  • @Messter100
    @Messter100 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish jimmy conrad was still doing this

  • @longlive289s
    @longlive289s ปีที่แล้ว

    VAN goal should have stood. He falls cuz his foot slips, not because he was pushed. You can easily see his foot loose traction and him going down specifically because of it

    • @choduffield
      @choduffield ปีที่แล้ว

      While it wasn't as much of a push as it looks like, it does look like there is a push by the attacker's right hand. That push contributes to the defender's foot slipping and him going down. This has to be called.

  • @MjB12345
    @MjB12345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stl should have a red card

  • @tigerturner5222
    @tigerturner5222 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wiebe is actually brainless. Sands touched the ball with his plant foot and swung through as well. It’s a yellow at best.

    • @formercoolkid
      @formercoolkid ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy crap, you're right. Somehow it seems like everyone missed this point. Now that I'm seeing it, neither player had control of the ball and they both effectively swung into each other. It just so happened that Ibarra's foot was at a slightly further point in its trajectory. Not sure what the right call should have been but I think punitiveness towards one player/team and not the other doesn't seem correct.

  • @rock6606
    @rock6606 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a DC United fan, it's obviously frustrating to have two controversial calls go against them, but your rationale in both cases is reasonable. I was sort of surprised that nothing was made of the Columbus keeper going for a punch, completely missing and absolutely clattering into a United player. Is this just a special privilege for keepers? I always thought the standard was the keeper needed to make contact with the ball before they can legally go through a player.

    • @CLBCrew96
      @CLBCrew96 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a Columbus fan and agree about that foul from our keeper. When I was watching, I figured he would have been called over to take a look at that. He took your player completely out and didn't get the ball. But the other two goals I believe were correct. Matan did dive, but the contact before was a foul. If he wouldn't have went down as he did, VAR probably wouldn't have noticed the foul. A foul is a foul, even if you don't go down.

    • @choduffield
      @choduffield ปีที่แล้ว

      Keepers get way too much leniency. They're also some of the biggest babies out there when they get brushed.

  • @StevenRayGarcia
    @StevenRayGarcia ปีที่แล้ว

    Headline is not correct. He received a yellow for entering VAR booth area. It was his 2nd yellow.

    • @AlexCaste
      @AlexCaste ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a clarification: A second yellow IS a red. That's why the headline says that a red card was 'earned' and not "received". He received a 2nd yellow, which earns him a red card infraction.

  • @joejamros
    @joejamros ปีที่แล้ว

    A penalty for New England Revolution is a right call.

  • @santosvaras7240
    @santosvaras7240 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fraude

  • @novatheorem
    @novatheorem ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. That first one was silly!

  • @firstnamelastname2948
    @firstnamelastname2948 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was at the dc United game in the supporter section we couldn’t believe the first call and I’m shocked to see the replay of the 2nd goal. Really took the wind out of the crowd and now we’re in 13th place …

    • @CLBCrew96
      @CLBCrew96 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both calls were correct in the end anyways. Matan did dive but the contact before is still a foul. You don't have to go down for a foul to occur. But if he didn't dive as he did, VAR probably wouldn't have taken a second look to see the actual foul. Also the second goal, he doesn't look to be offside. He looked level or in front of the defender to me. They probably should have taken a second look but I believe the call on the field would have stood.

  • @jeancardoso3667
    @jeancardoso3667 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk que cara maluco

  • @cerebrix
    @cerebrix ปีที่แล้ว

    Struber needs to go

  • @Giuseppe1927
    @Giuseppe1927 ปีที่แล้ว

    so many calls i disagree with lol. i feel like this commentator has never played at a competitive level and just doesnt really understand what actually happens on the field

  • @jordanhorne7700
    @jordanhorne7700 ปีที่แล้ว

    So once again, y’all gonna be silent on a takedown of ATL keeper by NYC?!?!? Come on, do better!

  • @ALDOSIVIToN
    @ALDOSIVIToN ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm probably rushing things bit , but this will definitely be included in top season's bloopers later 😂

  • @brianwooton1992
    @brianwooton1992 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have got to be kidding me, Wiebe. Matan took two steps then obviously pulls up the landing gear.

  • @Not-yoursstop
    @Not-yoursstop ปีที่แล้ว

    How is that not simulation with the Dallas Miami game😂

    • @choduffield
      @choduffield ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assume your laughing emoji is because you think your question is so ridiculous. (?) I can't see how else to take it.

  • @Dkmo94
    @Dkmo94 ปีที่แล้ว

    MLS doing everything to try and improve the league's reputation except for FIXING THE REFS. How can an entire ref organization be this godawful?

    • @choduffield
      @choduffield ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The massive number of thumbs up you (didn't) get for that says a lot.

  • @luisricardoromeroestrada3490
    @luisricardoromeroestrada3490 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't drink it your yunk is gonna fall off

  • @dozyproductionss
    @dozyproductionss ปีที่แล้ว

    a racial slur? Dismantle the team!

  • @newguyiswinning
    @newguyiswinning ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That handball was definitely a PK. The fact that VAR tried to overturn the womans call seems a little sexist. Good on her for not caving to them
    I dont think thats the first time this has happened. Be better Pro

    • @johnmcgimpsey1825
      @johnmcgimpsey1825 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't know if there was sexism involved (which has zero place in the game), but I'd prefer to look at it in light of a somewhat similar call last week. In that call, the handball was initially waved off, but VAR showed the referee (coincidentally? also T. Penso) an angle that looked like arm extension and the PK was given. PRO later came out and said that was the wrong call, as the arm was extended behind the player within their frame. You could be right, but I'd like to think this was a case of referees and VARs trying to calibrate their handball decisions before I jump to patronizing. Penso is an excellent referee in a challenging position.

    • @letti4285
      @letti4285 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldnt call it sexism, the arm from a certain angle does look like it isnt in a natural position. Im thinking VAR just suggested to the ref to look over and confirm the decision.

    • @paulmiller7838
      @paulmiller7838 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was there in the front row. It was pretty obvious that Tori made the right call (she called a really good game to be honest). No clue why the VAR official called her over to look at it but she was right on the pitch and she was right after reviewing it. They kept showing the play on the huge screen while she was reviewing it which surprised me but they showed a couple angles and it was so clear and obvious that she made the right call that to flag it was a joke. However, I seriously doubt sexism has anything to do with it. This isn't her first game, or even her first season.

  • @ScatPack123
    @ScatPack123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why can you not say (racial) slurs? Literally almost everyone uses them, and many foreigners have typical words that some Americans might not be accustomed to

    • @choduffield
      @choduffield ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure what your group of friends is like, but 'literally almost everyone' is certainly not valid in my life. 40 years ago it was more common when joking with friends, but even then you'd never cross the line with certain words and certainly not with people you weren't tight with. Your comment just shows how far we haven't come.

  • @Will83B
    @Will83B ปีที่แล้ว

    Couple of those decions where absolutely laughable yet a tackle that could have ended someone's career doesn't even get picked up by VAR. Makes perfect sense

  • @sirkillshot8880
    @sirkillshot8880 ปีที่แล้ว

    How on earth did Vazquez miss a serious foul on the stomp to Alex roldan almost reminds me of Ishmael’s missed red card on melia for body slamming Cristian roldan