Moral of the story: Choosing the right partner is about more than just attraction. Failing to assess their true character can be devastating to you and your future
Very true. Most people go for superficial things such as looks or money, or are scared to be alone etc. Too bad the deeper, harder to see, qualities aren't taken into acct or discovered.
Zena - As always fine comment! Incels always seem to me to try for the wrong women and then are so surprised and hurt not to have the relationship work out! Surface beauty and shallowness (although not always together) do not constitute the important traits in a person!
@@bthomson Agreed. They go for the pretty girl or handsome guy but put up with bad behaviors, then stay to fix or justify their behaviors, and yes act surprised when it goes south. Thanks for your comment to me, appreciated. Happy Easter tomorrow 🐰🦋🌹ps what do you mean by incels lol? Actors?
So glad someone else said this. It's hard for me to find sympathy for him. What did he expect when he leave a good woman (who he refused to marry) and then immediately marry someone half his age that he clearly didn't know much about?
Jonny just needs to play the tapes of Amber discussing abusing him, medicating him, and screaming like an insane person. She has abused other partners in the past. Jonny has not.
@@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 Psychopathy is thrown out loosely. Are you a psychologist/psychiatrist? I doubt it. No professional therapist would throw out a comment such as yours. It’s reckless and irresponsible.
@@Nira39 when did this woman claim to be a Dr?? Looks who's projecting, now. Calm down, woke person. Psychopathic behavior usually comes out in unprovoked attacks and anonymous social media aggressions.
@@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 Yeah, but she's more of a narcissist than a psychopath. If she was truly a psychopath she wouldn't care about criticism or be trying to victimize herself, which is commonly lacking in them. ---‐‐---------------------------------------------------------------- -----‐--------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT: Yes, I'm aware that psychopaths have narcissistic traits too, but they are not clinical narcissists (NPD). Having traits that overlap doesn't mean someone is a comorbid narcissist/psychopath, as there are still distinctive characteristics that make them different from one another.
I've been watching the entire trial and imo it definitely feels more weighted in Johnny's favor. Where he can point to a pattern of her domestic abuse, she can only keep pointing to his addiction issues. Which he is not on trial for. But he consistently demonstrates self awareness and takes responsibility for his addiction, while at no point does Amber demonstrate any personal responsibility.
Same, Amber has created a web of lies and truly didn't care who was effected by them, and now is stuck in the web and must face the countless lies. Alot of reporting is not reporting all just snippets, for those of us who are watching fully. Johnny clearly has demonstrated this week there's a very different, difficult private Amber.
I’ve seen multiple lawyers say the opposite, Johnny’s lawyers have to prove ambers intent. Which as of now doesn’t seem they’ll be able to prove. This testimony from the therapist shows that Johnny did do more than he previously admitted to
But Johnny LOST his career and reputation-not her. As a DV survivor(hospitalized) her smirking and arrogance on the stand was opposite of me. I was scared to death in court and thankfully had police protection. Amber is disgusting on so many levels!!
Anyone who has been in an abusive relationship with a narcissist knows all too well the crazy making behavior they invoke. When you try to defend yourself and become overly emotional, you are accused of being the crazy one, the abusive one, the emotionally unstable one. I don’t buy her bullshit claims. The writing is on the wall and it’s all in red.
@@reneegardner2286 it doesn't matter what they are....it matters what they do. I don't believe Amber at all. Because I don't think Johnny 'did' anything but tried to love an unlovable person.
But it sounds like vulnerable narcissim, and that he threw gasoline over that fire. He sounds sadistic. She sounds clingy. They both brought out the worst in each other.
The thing about Dr. Anderson’s testimony was that the accusation of violence by JD only came up when she was seeing the therapist by herself, which was never brought up or confirmed by JD either in joint sessions or his solo sessions. She also noted that AH had asked if she would have an advantage if she called the police before filing for divorce and was noted to be strategizing. Personally, I think the “gave as good as she got” referred to verbal arguments, especially if he had no idea what AH had said in her solo sessions. The incongruent bruises that showed up less than a week after AH’s musings about calling the cops seem to point to the probable hoax. AH has been caught in too many major lies in and out of court to not at least consider that these abuse allegations are completely false, or she’s distorted his attempts at self defense.
I don’t believe her. I think she’s full of it. But to be fair, a victim of abuse might not bring up the abuse in front of the abuser so her not bringing it up in front of him wouldn’t necessarily prove anything for me.
Her poor me (perpetual victimhood) act doesn’t wash with me. As a survivor of domestic violence, I find it utterly disgusting & a disservice to other survivors when people like her lie about it!! 🤬 She punished him for having the audacity to leave her. So in true narcissistic style she smeared him in the worst way she could. # STILL TEAM JOHNNY
You see dependant personality disorder and vulnerable narcissism unfortunately can make a person a perpetual victim unless they receive CBT for them. There's a reason why people end up in abusive relationships and can't leave. Even when their partner is inflicting loads of harm on them. Do not weigh in on something you're neither academically nor professionally qualified to weigh in on, please, you are here dealing damage to victims with those conditions. Both men and women. You're blaming a victim for having a pathology that makes them easy to be taken advantage of and makes it hard for them to leave abusive relationships. We all don't know what happened, but now, very classic patterns of DV have emerged.
I’m also a victim of domestic violence , I stayed in a domestic violence shelter , 90% of the women were lying , some just because they had nowhere to go and lied about dv just to get a shelter instead of ending up on the streets , others because they wanted to get revenge from their husbands for “ignoring them” and get benefits . Because of women like that , the court system doesn’t believe in true victims anymore .
@@samf.s.7731 and are you academically or professionally qualified to weigh in? If so did you give treatment to either of the couple? You see, like it or not, we are all entitled to an opinion......
fam, i don't want to offend you, but for the sake of amber's daughter, it's better that johnny depp lose this case. It's better that amber wins and her kid grows up well, and away from her mother, because boarding school and what not. remebermber that amber will or might take her frustrations out on that child, in the future if she loses. It's better for one man to be crucified so that other's may have a better life.
@@samf.s.7731 anyone can speak to this regardless of their experience or expertise so dismissing someone because you don't think they have the qualifiers is pointless. After a certain point it doesn't matter why someone is abusive. doesn't matter how much victimization of their own is behind their behavior or whether or not they've sought out appropriate treatment for it, that's their responsibility - if they're abusive to you you need to leave, that's your responsibility. And the original commenter was absolutely right - people who lie about abuse, regardless of their own authentic history of receiving it, do a disservice to real victims as well as (and no less significantly though not much remarked upon) a disservice to the true victim they once were. Her behavior has been a net bad and she deserves to suffer legal consequences. Hope they throw the book at her with as much skill as she throws liquor bottles.
I disagree. I think Johnny Depp really had no choice then to sue. He lost work on the Pirates franchise as well as the Harry Potter franchise. He lost millions because of a false accusation. She had the chance to fess up and tell the truth but she chose not to. Johnny wants his reputation back and unfortunately she gave him no choice but to sue.
Johnny Depp made over $600 million from the Pirates franchise before the Amber thing ever happened, and the man was stupid enough to waste it on private islands, private yachts, fourteen houses, dozens of cars, gigantic art collections that sit in storage, etc. There was a length Rolling Stone article about how he lost all his money through dumb investments and excessive crazy spending. 🤷🏼♀️ The man even tried to sue his own business managers alleging that it was somehow their fault that he was paying $300,000 on a pair of cuff links and other idiotic purchases. Depp can’t even pay his taxes anymore coz he’s close to broke. He’s close to bankruptcy but that is NOY because Amber “destroyed his career” - he was nearly broke before her allegations.
@@mistym0rning because ur not great with money doesn’t give anyone the right to physically abuse you, make vile allegations against you, and ruin your chances of ever working again. If you don’t agree with Johnny Depp’s life choices fine, but it never excuses her behavior.
@@mistym0rning But it's his money which he earned, and thought to be earned continuously, given that AH didn't ruin his reputation. If you'd lost your jobs and future jobs due to some BS another person threw at you, wouldn't you sue them?
One thing I’ve been curious about: I’m a couples therapist and I’ve always been told to discontinue couples therapy if there is evidence of ongoing DV (harm reduction model). It stood out to me that their therapist continued to work with them.
Probably money? Or access? Or also being manipulated by their celebrity clients to keep working for them in exchange for all that. It's probably the same principle behind how some otherwise professional people turn into enablers for celebrities because it's basically the job they got hired for. Person that comes to mind is the doctor that regularly (& illegally) administered anesthesia drugs to Michael Jackson because he asked for them. After MJ died, that guy went to jail and lost his license. Basically, I think if you're in the orbit of a celebrity that big, they pretty much ask you to do anything and everything for them and you pretty much end up doing it even if it violates your practice's usual standards and ethics. Not giving an excuse. Just theorizing on what leads some people to do certain things.
@@chloeswigs3680 Definitions vary by state, but a mandated reporter in general is someone who must report abuse of “vulnerable” individuals. Children, disabled people and frail elderly definitely qualify. But I really don’t see evidence that either Johnny or Amber are vulnerable.
Brilliant analysis as always Dr. However, JD has already paid with his career and reputation loss. While AH faced no consequences. If anything, this trial gives JD the chance to tell his side of the story.
💯 Exactly my view! Johnny Depp had already lost everything. He didn’t really have much choice. It was daft to sue the Sun newspaper in Britain! Freedom of the press is really protected. He possibly received bad legal advise… I got sucked down the rabbit hole last year & actually listened to the 1 1/2 hour long recorded conversation between them. To be honest, I started as a fan of Depp’s acting talent & a pretty heavy pro-women bias. I was listening for ‘evidence’ of guilt. By the end of the recording I was disgusted by AH. She verbally abused, gaslit & manipulated him with such cruelty. She went as far as ridiculing his ‘weakness’ for NOT fighting back when she hits him!! Basically, ‘A real man wouldn’t run away to avoid violence!’ 😳🤬
Depp has had the reputation of drinking & taking drugs for DECADES now!! That never hurt his career. Her accusations of physical (AND NOW!!) sexual abuse have destroyed his reputation & career. It’s cruel. I felt quite sorry for Depp. It seems like MANY people take advantage of him. Why were her friends & family members living FREE in HIS penthouse apartments??!
It's not going to work. The Burden to prove he was hurt is much higher in this case. He has no chance. When Depp takes the stand he will be grilled by her Lawyer and be forced to tell the truth
@@suzimonkey345 I've read many comments in regard to this matter and you'll be very pleased to know that most people are still supporting Johnny Depp and are totally against Amber Heard! You're right about his career and reputation being affected though, not to mention his health and well-being, which I can relate to. 😥
@@suzimonkey345 Rumors and established fact are different. It's like starting a rumor vs saying something under the penalty of purjury. He couldn't get fired based off of rumors. And what we're okay now with drug dependency because it serves a toxically masculine rhetoric and a sexist agenda?! You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot. No, people are not supposed to be addicted to drugs. Happy Easter, you weirdos.
I wonder what the odds are that Johnny Depp changed who he was; his character after meeting Amber? It's been known for a very long time that Johnny has substance issues, but no previous partner has ever said he's been physically abusive, even while intoxicated. Amber however has been previously arrested for domestic violence with a prior partner. Psychologically it doesn't fit that his personality would completely change. I can see a relationship where one partner thrives on constant drama and the other partner only being able to take so much. I myself was in a relationship that was verbally and physically abusive. I would sometimes fight back after being hit and we'd end up in a brawl with one another. I never started the physical aspect but I would engage after being hit or thrown. Since that relationship I have never been in another relationship like that one, because it isn't who I am or who I want to be.
You're not taking into account her issues. Vulnerable narcissismakes it very hard for her to walk away when a partner is abusive, something that his previous partners apparently didn't suffer from. This was a very bad match, where he was sadistic and destructive, and she couldn't walk away from him.
I am glad you broke your cycle. I knew a man (he grew up next door to me in a large family and I was his next door neighbor, he was the first to marry. The couple then moved on the other side of me. I babysat their children. The wife spent a lot of time with me.. she constantly talked about her Italian temper and how it wasn't her fault. The man divorced her. He told people that she would throw her iron at him. No one believed him. She then married another young neighbor, who like the first man was a great passive man. It was a short marriage.. he talked to a woman at a party while she held court with other men. She started the fight as soon as they got home..she ended the argument by sticking her sewing scissors in his chest. He died. I was a close, overhead neighbor of one couple and then a young man hiding out while trying to divorce. First couple I would hear her yelling abuse at the husband and then it would end either much being thrown. The sweet guy who was on the run didn't live below us long. His wife found out where he lived. We witnessed her breaking in thru a window since he wouldn't open his door. It ended in a huge fight with her even smashing a 100 gallon fish tank. Ii was horrible. We couldn't call the cops. It was a time when the police would have arrested him. We saw the destroyed apartment in the morning. He then left and found a new place to hide and by night my now exhusband helped him move. We were sad to see him go. He was much loved in our apartment complex.
@@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083 Women are not protected when they should be and not held to account when they should be. We now have a problem with the far right indoctrinating boys into inceldom, boys who have seen more of the latter behaviour, ie controlling women who abuse and use men. It's all coming to a head because society looks for someone to blame instead of asking where the behaviour comes from. Until we look for and treat the cause there are going to be innocent guys like you describe as well as innocent women murdered. The nice person, a lot of the time, is the vulnerable one who ends up dead. The problem as always starts in upbringing.
I don’t believe it was him changing his character, so much as him reacting to the abusive nature Amber had in the relationship. It triggered him, the therapist said that. Which in that case, leads me to believe he was the victim of the abuse. Yes, he may have reacted and tried to defend himself, but that doesn’t make him an abuser. A good way to think about it, is if the abuser did not act the way they did the victim would not have reacted. You kick a puppy enough times it will bite you… that’s not the puppy’s fault. The key to figuring out which came first, is who takes responsibility and how does the person react when called out on abusive behaviors? Do they lash out, blame the other person for making them act that way, belittle them and name call? Or do they apologize and take responsibility for their part in the action? There is audio of this playing out in their own words, and it is clear who the aggressor was… and it wasn’t Johnny.
They should just play those tapes, they are very telling. Im sure johnny had his problems, but wasn't abusive. He seemed to de-escalate the fights by simply walking away.
Those tapes reveal everything about AH. She is totally irrational, evidently abusive and she also gaslights him throughout. I could not believe my ears when I listened to them.
@kibblewibble He has every right to what he is doing. Amber had all the resources to be able to get away from Johnny. She wasn't stuck, she was a willing participant. And you do realize what you said you fear to happen to victims is actually what happened to Depp. Can you imagine being fired from your job if your significant other called your job and accused you of domestic violence and they let you go because they believed their word of yours. He shouldn't have lost any of his jobs do to allegations.
@kibblewibble johnny, like many v1ctims of DV, has been silenced by his abuuser. Amber got the upperhand of the narrative and has been talking about it nonstop to the media and anyone who will listen 'like a jackhammer'. now he wants to tell his side of the story - the side of THE truth not just his truth. dont begrudge a v1ctim the chance to legally clear his name
Curious, why do you think he isn't though?! If they're so damn great?! Could it be because they were taped with one side knowing they were recorded which allows them to manipulate a conversation through careful selection of words? Or maybe because they make him seem manipulative? Or maybe because he was trying to make it seem like she's the only one who's physically abusive when their therapist has said that they both have been? Which means he was deliberately manipulating the public into favoring his side. Curious indeed!
@@lillyCfields she is a vulnerable narcissist with fear of abandonment. I get that you didn't listen to the testimony, but did you not listen to THIS VIDEO?!
When my daughter had to testify against her abusive ex-boyfriend, she shook so hard I was afraid her heels would fall off. I watch body language as well as listen. AH literally keeps her nose up in the air. I know she's an actress, but she isn't that good. I think she's a hot-headed, insecure, narcissistic liar who thrives on fighting. Calling JD a "coward" and a "fat old man" are the kinds of things that make a man crumble inside. That's what's known as fighting dirty, and it never solves the problem. It just creates more. I think she's an ego killer. I hope he wins!
I also think it points out to the beginning of mental abuse. Why would anyone want you? You are fat and old. You are lucky you have me. Only difference this time it’s a man.
This analysis seems to consider the therapist deposition in isolation and assumes the therapist was accurate in her assessments. There are audio tapes of the two of them where Johnny said that no physical violence should be allowed in their marriage and Amber talked about wanting to hit Johnny because that’s how mad she gets. There is a great deal of evidence publicly available that would be necessary to do a proper analysis of the therapist. Amber’s own deposition made her look like a total psycho, imo. It was scary to watch as she grinned while thinking about punching Johnny.
And, she has been arrested *there is a mugshot of her for hitting an old gf in 2009* .....if they had that kind of info on Johnny he would be sitting his A== in jail. lopsided justice system.
7:00 7:16 he kinda addresses this, and said therapists session notes are for active treatment and not meant to be used as evidence in a trial... But I agreewith you. He clearly hasn't studied the numerous details of the case like many of us have (me lol). Hopefully as the case progresses he'll give an update or something
@@sportsbadcalls334 seriously though society has a long way to go when it comes to fair treatment for victims. There's a mountain of proof showing amber is guilty yet Johnny is the only one who has suffered the consequences of her abussse. It's honestly baffling how much the media skews everything in ambers favor. It's like ARE WE IN THE SAME REALITY?? How do they not see it?!
@@Alleellaa They call mutual abuse because I believe DV teaches therapists and alike that one who slams a cabinet door shut is threatening the other. So if Johnny doesnt close a door perfectly he is a 'mutual abuser" ....it is society drawing a line to where abuser starts. weird.
This video is only an analysis of the video deposition and nothing more. As stated in the title of the video. It's not a verdict on the case in general only on the deposition on it's own.
Did anyone see Johnny Depp's long time friend testify? He had the defense completely speechless (literally). Does not look good for Amber Heard at all!
@@samf.s.7731 Everything the doctor said about physical violence came from Ambers mouth when Depp wasn't present though. If I tell my therapist that my husband hits me, that's gospel I guess.
Amber reminds me of my abusive ex husband. He had the same fear of abandonment and made it his life’s mission to punish me for leaving him. It’s very scary to be with someone like that
Yup, my mom sued me and then disinherited me in her will when I ‘abandoned’ her… by getting a serious boyfriend at age 38. 🙄 Life is sooo much better now.
Doesn't it seem odd that Johnny Depp has dated some of the most famous and beautiful women in Hollywood and there hasn't been any controversy when they have parted ways? He married AH because she love bombed him and pushed all of his buttons. She is the dangerous narcissist in this mix. No one mentioned her constant interruptions during their counselling sessions most likely trying to control the situation. No wonder JD couldn't find his voice.
And those relationships failed. He literally took responsibility for how one very high profile one ended. Do you not think this creates baggage that he chooses to deal with partially through drug consumption? And then he takes said baggage into newer relationships...
One point I wish you had brought up… actually two. One, that the therapist stated clearly that amber only spoke of Johnny’s violence when he wasn’t present. And there was no mention of them talking through it in couple sessions. Not to say it didn’t happen, but it was not mentioned or clarified to the court. Two, the fact that mutual abuse is something that rarely happens. There are victims of abuse who do engage in maladaptive behavior because they have been pushed to their limit and need to either defend themselves or try to self preserve the best they can. But there is going to be someone who has more control/power over the other person. That person is clearly Amber, as basically agreed by the therapist herself. Johnny was triggered by Amber’s abusive behavior, he didn’t cope with it well. Because no one who is subjected to abuse does.
Mutual abuse is common between a Borderline and Narcissist tho. I have a lifetime of experience to speak from. Not sure why people aren't talking more about it.
@@reneegardner2286 I'm sorry you've experienced that. Do you have any credible reading for such abuse? I'm genuinely curious, I'd love to read more about it, because from what I've read and seem to understand is that most recent research suggests there isn't. And if I'm wrong, I don't want to spread misinformation. That said, I don't believe JD to have any of those diagnosis. Whereas AH may, if i recall correctly from the UK trial about someone having mentioned a diagnosis for her.
@@jillianj310 99.9% of narcissists aren't diagnosed so of course Johnny looks like the victim while Amber seems the abusive Borderline. Watch some videos by Sam Vaknin. He is a diagnosed narcissist. He has tons of videos on NPD and BPD
@@reneegardner2286 I'll look into it, thanks! Playing devils advocate here though, if JD had npd... Wouldn't that come up in past relationships? Again, genuinely asking. I have no idea if he is or isn't and I admittedly don't know much about npd. But from what we've heard of him in his long career and past relationships, it's never something that's come up.
Dr. grande, I would like to respectfully disagree with some of your conclusions. 1) I do not think that this trial is going better for Ms. Heard. Up to this week, through the mas media and the Uk libel case, she has cast her self in the role of blameless, perfectly innocent victim, who was under the control of her tyrannical husband, who would terrorize her and abuse her, while she was too frightened and small and week to respond. After this week and Dr. Anderson deposition, it is clear this is not the case. She was the leading, provoking, aggressive, more frequently violence initiating part of this couple, if not the single aggressor. On top of that she was strategizing and already preparing herself for filing a domestic violence report to gain upper hand in upcoming divorce. So, although, Dr. Anderson’s testimony was damaging for both of them, she did not say anything about Mr. Depp that was not already discussed in the public and many new, unfavorable things for Ms. Heard. 2) When discussing whether an actual malice can be reasonably inferred from her behavior, please consider the fact that if Mr. Depp’s side demonstrates that she faked bruises, altered photos and described events of domestic violence and injuries, which objectively could not have happen, then actual malice is definitely present. These would be actual acts of fraud, hence actual malice is inferred. 3) And the most important thing, I completely disagree with your qualification of this trial as a show or movie or gig. It is about domestic abuse or alternatively false accusations of domestic abuse and their impact in the persons life. Disregarding Ms. Heard and/or Mr. Depp and their suffering from the first resp. the latter, only because they are rich and famous, is simply wrong.
I’m kinda in the middle in this trial so I was wondering about your second point. Was there a real evidence that AH faked bruises/injuries? I tried to research it but all I saw was “he said she said” kinda evidence. Basically Amber’s friends claim they saw bruises while Johnny’s friends claim they didn’t. Is there an actual testimony from a neutral witness?
@@Oktaviii I've been following it very loosely. All I know is that she claimed to use a specific consealor/foundation to hide bruises and it was proven that the brand didn't even make that line of makeup during the time period they claimed Amber used it.
@@Oktaviii Yes the police officers who were called to the scene did not see any bruises or injuries on Amber Heard at the scene of the alleged violence.
She spoke a lot about fighting in her and Johhny’s recorded phone calls- she says several times to him “I just want you to stay and fight not walk out like a coward”
What woman wants a man to stay & fight I mean come on that is strange in itself. Then if he tried to leave does she attack him? If he stays and tries to talk it through amicable AH resorts to shouting and screaming and JD can not get a word in so leaves. Who can blame him I know I would.
Translation: “Mirror my behavior, I want you to act like me because I have no control over my emotions and if we are both acting this way, I am justified in my petulance.
Narcissists are cowards and Borderline like to "fight" or try to get answers in an argument. He's too calm that's why she acts out. Someone with experience in a relationship between a BPD and NPD can understand
If someone doesn't allow you to remove yourself from a situation when you are trying to, then what? She would hit him to force a reaction. How much is a person expected to take? This is so sad. In my opinion, she was the violent agressor with a mindset to destroy what she could not have. It appears that she has succeeded.
Yes but what if you said something extremely painful and aggrevating intentionally to drive the other person nuts. Just because you can because you have a cluster fuck worth of problems that you need to work through and instead you resolved to using substances and sadism instead of working through them. And this other person loves you and doesn't understand why you're saying these things. Should you be very clean in that context?! Sounds like you tried to bring the worst out of someone who actually cares for you, by hurting them, and then are trying to play victim. There's a reason why the therapist is saying they're both toxic. Depp is not clean, and is abusive. Both emotionally and physically.
@@forrestgreene1139 leaving is the most dangerous time when abuse is occurring. It’s very rare someone gets to just leave and wipe their hands of an abusive situation when someone who wants power and control is involved.
I actually bodyguarded for Johnny Depp and Traci Lords when they were making "Cry Baby" in Baltimore. The setting for the High School was actually my girlfriend's (at the time) daughter's middle school, as a convenient coincidence. The other shooting locations were nearly as convenient. Easy money, as NO ONE was going to try to attack JD nor TL in those conditions. I was no fan of Johnny Depp at the time. I was no fan of "21 jump Street". Traci Lords was a total sweetheart! I have subsequently become a huge fan of Johnny Depp. I think he is an amazing, albeit very quirky, actor.
Thank you! Very refreshing to hear a calm and unbiased voice on this subject. And love that subtle humour of yours. Always appreciate a channel that can coax a smile and a laugh.
Many addicts will actually stay in abuse situations because they have low self-esteem and will justify other's negative behaviors towards them. Throw a narcissist in there and they become an easy target to someone who preys on emotions and vulnerabilities. They can easily be gaslit & manipulated because of their altered states. I was in active addiction for over a decade and a lot of people (mostly other addicts, but some non-users) took advantage of me and others in the same situation. I've met a lot of violent and abusive addicts/drunks, yes, but I've also met many more who never fought back and let people steamroll right over them. It's just not a great argument to say that drugs or alcohol make people violent- they may make inherently angry and violent people more likely to lash out, but those people had these tendencies already.
@@meagana8218 I'm a recovering addict too and my biggest abuser would use that against me, gaslight, lie and manipulate me and then he'd say "you're an addict, you're just trying to manipulate people when you tell them I abuse you" and similar things.
@@meagana8218 And he WASN'T an addict, that's how he'd get away with convincing people I was in the wrong. She's an ADDICT she's HAS to be manipulating you, she HAS to be lying. Even other people who'd been abused by him, like his parents who's door he kicked in, held a knife to his mom's throat, all kinds of stuff, but he'd make them believe it was MY fault he acted like that (well the knife thing happened before me, but he blamed that on some one else too) There are so many people I know who were abused as addicts and never fought back, yes there are violent addicts but as you said those people are usually already violent and the drugs bring that out more, or even if only drugs bring it out they have a history of it, Depp has no one else saying that they abused them
@@zuglymonster I believe that if JD ever struck her or yelled abuse at her, it was either in self defense or he had been cornered and pushed beyond his limits. Narcs can make the most docile person break if they corner them and bludgeon them emotionally for long enough. I don't believe Johnny is an abusive person and I don't believe he ever started these fights. The fact that this case has come down to "yeah. She hit him, she perjured herself by lying and saying it only happened one time but so what; here's a smidge of evidence that he MAY have fought back on one or two occasions. He MUST be an abuser/He has substance abuse issues so he MUST be an abuser" is just ridiculous. As if she isn't an addict herself? And abuse victims can't have bad days? He could hardly get away from her! I also wanted to say that even though I don't know you, I'm proud of you & your recovery. It's one of the hardest things us addicts will ever get through and it's a never ending battle. And just because someone is an addict doesn't mean they're a bad person or deserve to be abused. I hope that society is getting to a place where people on the outside can finally understand that.
It's a defamation case, it's all about establishing simplistic and reductive narratives on moral character, and resorting to moral stereotypes and common prejudices to do so. The stigma against addicts is very effective.
Heard is an unheard of drama queen. WE know that Johnny Depp was in an extensive relationship with Vanessa Paradis with whom he has children, and were even not officially married. When he decided to leave the marriage he just went off, she was never caught off-guard to say a bad thing about him, the press even were inquiring whether or not he was abusive, she always denied and kept even after his desertion to a younger and more famous woman, her gratitude and warm feelings for him, unconditional support and protected his good name. This one who was only a year in a mistaken marriage with the Man, is tarnishing in a vicious way his reputation in a deliberate malevolent, malintended manner, he has already incurred ruining financial losses and invalidating blows in his professional carrier because of her constant, never ending vicious attacks
Abusers don't abuse everyone. He was addicted to pills & alcohol during their marriage. His mother was extremely abusive. Because Amber is obviously Borderline her personality had a different effect on him obviously than the other women he was involved with. Their was mutual abuse going on and because it was behind closed doors nobody sees his toxic side, just his movie persona
Which he clearly feels guilty about leaving. And has resolved to kicking up his recreational drug consumption to cope... And displaced his guilt onto his new partner.
I’ve watched most of this trial. I can’t help but feel sad for Depp. Imagine going through detox/ rehab then having those notes read aloud to the world. Even if he gave consent, it’s still unfortunate.
I know. This must be hard for him. Having substance abuse issues is hard enough in and of itself without this being livestreamed for the world to hear. This is a mess, I wish they'd settled out of court.
@@samf.s.7731 He wanted to keep it all out of the public eye so badly - but she demanded the big public spectacle. He’s very private. This is extremely hard for him. Which makes me feel he is right - and his willingness to spill his secrets and personal life - in order to clear his good name. This is going to great lengths. I don’t think a guilty party would do that…. Hopefully, justice will be granted to JD.
Unfortunate doesn’t cover it! Imagine falsely being accused of DV (I take it you’ve listened to the tapes) which goes round the world, is on the internet forever, you’re reminded of the injustice of it all when she refers to it in public; and this said injustice impacts your children and entire family. Feel so sorry for him.
Yeah, I think Amber is a complete LIAR and a terminal victim. We've all heard the tapes of her and Johnny's constant "fighting" and as a woman who, not only grew up in an abusive home but was abused myself, I can tell you Amber was absolutely NOT ABUSED by Johnny. No abused woman acts the way she does or speaks to her abuser the way she did. Johnny sounded like the victim in EVERY instance I heard.
100%!!! Johny is the victim of narcissistic abuse.His mother was a narc too so he fell straight into their toxic relationship and clearly went through CPTSD. Johny is responding to Heards manipulation and gaslighting.
I agree! A victim of abuse does NOT talk that way, she’s clearly the abuser. She was not scared of him at all. She abused him then laughed about it and mocked him. I have a lot of disdain for her.
I don’t know. I think every personality responds differently to abuse. I thought she was lying until I saw the video of Depp before he knew he was being filmed. I think being in a relationship with someone like that can bring out really ugly things just to have to fight back or defend. I was surprised when I saw the video because everyone acted like Depp was so innocent and never violent, when in the video he clearly has a violent angry rage. Just such a short video reveals how emotionally abusive Depp was and the assumedly constant abusive dynamics in general. Heard might still be lying about some things but I get the sense there was definitely a huge amount of emotional abuse and that Depp was the one with the upper hand. This is very speculative, but I think abused people sometimes do messed up things to try to regain power or fight back and then they’re blamed for being abusive when really it was all in defense from the real abuse. Not that it excuses their behavior but often times in those relationships there’s no possibility for recourse and you just go insane if you don’t get out soon enough. I think she tried to stay too long trying to hold on.
Terminal victim is just a very ignorant way of describing someone with vulnerable narcissim or dependant personality disorder. These people classically end up in abusive relationships. They can be abused easily due to their self esteem issues, as well as other traits that make them more liable to domestic abuse. Her psych history, coming from an abusive household cements that. He has unresolved issues from previous relationships, and while I don't remember how he broke up with Winona, I remember him saying it was his fault. Seems like he thinks he's unworthy of love, meanwhile she'd cling onto anything just to get his attention and affection (Even when her actions are sure to result in the exact opposite). This was the definive conclusion of a relationship like this, where one partner is pathologically attached, and another is pathologically sadistic. Pain, in excessive amounts, was probably inflicted on her because of how she was wired. And he was never going to give her what she wanted, even though he saw that it was driving her crazy. He kept doing exactly the opposite of what was going to de-escalate. Because what she needed was excessive love and attention, and what he was doing was just telling her that she's not enough, is crazy, and then playing hero by "walking away" from her after metaphorically throwing a grenade at her. He's emotionally abusive, she's pathologically clingy, and they're both prone to physical abuse. Again, I've said it before, it's a match made in hell.
I am relieved to hear Dr Grande talk about 2 people in an abusive relationship instead of one victim.Obviously there are more often than not a victim and an abuser but I grew up in a home where both parents were abusive towards each other and I don’t believe I have ever heard this perspective discussed which has led to many years of confusion when I reflect on my childhood.
Exactly, people who grew up watching their parents being abusive towards each other have completely different perspectives. I see a lot of people commenting on their experience of being a victim of DV and they of course have their own perspective. But people who watched their family members abusing each other know that it is usually a fault of both people. And in fact there are 2 abusers and 2 victims at the same time
I'm hung up on the fact that she admitted to hitting him, was mad at his pattern of running away to de -escalate the violence and she has a pattern of relationship abuse. Before I knew all this, I believed her. Now I hope he wins.
The therapist got the “mutual abuse” from AMBER. She never said that in front of Johnny which means, Johnny could have never disputed or agreed about that in front of the therapist. These were once again Ambers words. Which is obviously her entire case. Her word yet no one saw anything except her abusing Johnny
Narcissists abuse behind closed doors and often the Borderline is seen as the abuser. This case seems she's an unaware Borderline reacting to his emotional and psychological abuse. He was an addict and an alcoholic. They're self centered people. He's not the great guy everyone sees in movies behind closed doors
She could have also been terrified to mention it in front of him, or more accurately scared that he "may not love her" if she does. Very classic for a battered wife if you'd ask me.
@@samf.s.7731 Except she was hardly a battered wife when she at least initiated the physical violence, abused him, talked over him at therapy sessions. And there are multiple witnesses to her appalling aggressive behaviour including her PA. You might be right. I highly doubt it.
I don't think the trial is a waste of anyone's time. This is a successful actor's reputation & livelihood at stake. He stands to lose everything he's worked his entire life for. Why? Because a narcissistic gold-digger didn't get her way. I hope Johnny wins the lawsuit and Amber has to pay him every cent of the $50 million.
It's also for his family. His children face prejudice and harassment because of these accusations and I'm sure he carries that burden on his conscience.
@@glendasully I agree with everything you've said as well, just wanted to add to what you said! This trial has been very nerve-wracking so far but I'm hoping for the best! Johnny has a lot of love and support out here, no matter what happens ❤
Yes, that's where I disagree with Dr. Grande also. It goes without saying that Depp would prefer not to put himself through this, but his livelihood depends on it.
Narcissists are ends up controlling someones life, and shifting the blame to someone completely innocent by using their weaknesses like addictions, gambling or mental health as responsible and an excuse to for their behaviour.
What stands out to me the most through the whole case is how much inconsistency there's from Amber's side the stories keep getting more and more aggressive and a lot of the details contradict her previous statements and allegations so it makes you wonder what actually happened
@leen khlifat, liars always tell elaborate stories, and as a result have to get more and more elaborate, as they are forced to explain the inconsistencies that inevitably are a result of lying. You see this often when the real perpetrator of the crime is being questioned. This happens in everyday situations too. Children often automatically do this which is why it's so important to correct our children with loving firmness. Never let them feel you won't stop loving them, let them know about forgiveness, but that to speak the truth is always vital. I digressed, sorry, but in contrast to a liar, a person who speaks the truth usually has a far less complicated story, without lots and lots of details, and the story never changes, nor has contradictions. The liar tells a very, very detailed story, in the hope that by knowing all these " true" details, they will convince you. How often have we thought that someone must be telling the truth because they know soooo much, that is, sooo many details!
@@annabambus6572 totally agree. It's however very public!! to what degree can someone stretch a lie on a highly publicised case that's been going on for around 7 years now and still get away with it?!! And I'm not talking about a single incident they're actually too many to count with the smallest details being completely changed. I hope the jury at least notice that.
This is how narcissists work - they work to confuse and destabilise you so they can fill your head with whatever they want. She's just trying to do it on a large scale right now, which will not work in the long run. Too many professionals cross referencing everything.
Amber’s behaviour in Australia was very entitled. She breached our bio-security laws by bringing her dogs with no intention to quarantine them, as every other person must if they want to bring them here. She then wanted to take on the government. Her arrogant, disrespectful and self entitled behaviour pointed to who she is and left many Aussies cold on her …….
Agree, I am in NZ, we have very similar tough laws regarding bringing in animals, I remember this incident and her sense of entitlement at the time was very revealing. It spoke to her deep narcissism. Made me question at the time how she would behave in every day situations…
Amber HAD to bring her 2 dogs to Australia, even though she knew they’d have to be quarantined for 30 days and she’d have to pay about $5k EACH. So she and Johnny flew in a private jet with the 2 dogs, and then didn’t declare them, thinking she could bypass all that. Well, they nabbed her; she said she got “distracted.” They almost put her dogs to sleep. It came very, very close to that. She was charged with smuggling, had to pay a fine after a trial and they were asked to leave the country with the dogs and had to make an apology video. A country, where animals are different and there hasn’t been a case of dog rabies for over 100 years due to strict biosecurity. Anyone as entitled as she is, and a big liar, must be extremely high maintenance and an absolute nightmare to be around on a regular basis.
I believe the court of public opinion is overwhelmingly pro Johnny, myself included. The problem is the legal system. Amber is like an expert at being the bully victim. The legal system has a very difficult time dealing with the complexities of a person that can be considered a bully and a victim. No winner, imo.
I think the best thing Amber can do (in the4 court case I mean, because she's never going to admit she's a manipulative liar) is to get her witnesses to say "they're as bad as each other" in order to present a very unhealthy example of a marriage where both parties are abusive. I don't think Johnny Depp is abusive at all. He used to dress up as Jack Sparrow and come round kids' hospitals without any press (only a sneaky photo from staff members' phones) just to do something good for very ill children. He seems like a genuinely good guy that's caught up with a monster.
@@jacquelynskye295 I think ex-girlfriends like Kate Moss would've also spoken out for him, but she's had her own bad press for drugs, which should be irrelevant anyway. Just because someone takes drugs, it doesn't make them a bad person. I'd take Jonny Depp on a little coke or Xanax over 99% of Hollywood celebs (in terms of morals and ethics).
I think him saying she save as good as she got is him insinuating that she fights like a man if not even worse than a man. Telling him to stay and not leave like a coward. She persistently stated that he “always” did that.
@@bthomson if the other person is engaging in a mature and sensible argument then its beneficial to stay and work out the problem. However it seems that her 'jack hammer' and frankly hysterical nature could not be reasoned with. It is nobler to walk out of a situation like that.
Dude has been famous for decades how come no one else accused him of domestic violence? There is a pattern with abusive or argumentative and violent people. How did he manage to hide that much trash from Drama hungry media ?
JD's take-down of Ricky Gervace was, of course, acting! But you could definitely feel how effective JD can be at put-down! When he finds his "voice" it's quite something! (I think it's very cool!)
Look at Jada Pinkett. She's been famous for decades too, now we're seeing she's a narcissist. I didn't know my mother was a covert narcissist until I was about 43 years old so everything isn't always as it seems.
Exactly. Amber heard has always been trouble. But he brought this onto himself by marrying her when he barely knew her. He was with his ex for like 10 years or so and never married her. And they say men are the logical sex 🙄
Vanessa Paradis even came out very strongly that she was with him for decades and had 2 kids with him, but he wouldn’t kill a fly. Amber is such a liar.
Honestly, she is terrible because she made it sound like he is the sole person who abused her. In reality, she did too, and one could argue that she was more so of the abuser and he was defending himself more than abusing. He didn't write op-ed, she did. Impling her innocence and his "guilt". Idk how the courts would go, but I think this would help Johnny in some ways.
My ex was extremely volatile. If a woman was walking by and I happened to glance in that direction, my ex would fly into a rage accusing me of being mentally unfaithful. Her screaming could literally go on for days. When I would eventually lose my temper and say something in retaliation, she would claim I was being abusive. I legit feel like I had PTSD after that relationship ended.
And he made a tape where he tricked her to make it seem like she abused him but not vice versa. Their therapist comes out and says they're both physically abusive. Why is it not okay when Amber does it but okay when Depp does? It's not okay in both situations. He literally tried to pull what she tried to pull. Why should I forgive him but not her?! Why should I discredit their therapist's testimony? It's funny that people still mention that tape as means of proving that she was the one who's physically abusive and lied about it, where now it serves to prove that he was also physically abusive and was trying to trick her to make it seem like she's the only abusive one. If you feel like she is horrible because "she lied", guess what, he tried to do *THE EXACT SAME THING*
@@samf.s.7731 no one said it was okay for him to abuse anyone. Please don't put any words in anyone's mouth. For her to make it sounds like she was the only victim here is the problem. So often, men who are victim of domestic abuse get dismissed, unheard by others and be made fun of. And so they suffer quietly and don't even report.
The recorded fights that I have heard show that Amber would hit Johnny and he would try to leave. Amber got angrier when that happened. If she hit him first and tried to make him stay, he should have the right to defend himself. If I hit someone, I should expect they may hit me back. I don't know if Johnny hit her but I do know he tried to leave when fights became physical.
@@MinaF99 What if she has him cornered, blocking the only exit? What if to retreat he has to get physical, push her maybe, to get past her? What if she waited until she knew he was drunk, so she would have that advantage over him? I can see times when a man might need to get physical just to get away and retreat.
Omg I was just going over this trial and thinking “I wish Dr. Grande would cover this case.” Well, here you are, on top of your game as always! Thank you so very much for doing this video!💕✨💕
The therapist sounds like a failure. Amber seems like a violent narcissist. Any abuse from Johnny seems reactive which is what predators do to force a reaction out of their targets. Amber is the aggressor here and should be accountable. Johnny has tried to escape and walk away, yet she continues to be the aggressor and chase home into corners. He has clearly tried to escape via various methods. It’s called DARVO.
The therapist said they both initiated abuse. I'm inclined see Amber as a little worse because she didn't make the same effort to deescalate and has a previous arrest for assaulting a a partner but it sounds like a toxic dynamic where both parties should take some responsibility.
Judges and therapists based their opinions on hearsay. There is not evidence that Johnny initiated the fighting with Amber. I do believe both should have the right to defend themselves, but my impression is that Depp is a passive man who tried to pick his battles. He also seems to take responsibility for his actions when placed in impossible situations.
@@phoebe543 Welp, she may have not made an effort to de-escalate. But it sounds like he initiates or maintains topics that she finds painful. From what's discussed regarding her over attachment and desire to be "his one and only", seems like he really didn't wish to outwardly say that he loves her more than Winona or Vanessa. This is an issue I personally had with a former boyfriend. He knew it hurt the crap out of me, but he would always say that he loved his ex, and never said he loved me. It's also his fault that his former relationship ended because he was very abusive to that girl who was very sweet and patient with him (I was just too blind to see it, I wanted to believe that she was the problem and not him). So basically he abused the ex, and then used the ex to abuse me. It drove me bananas I swear. I genuinely loved him (I have never felt a deeper regret over anything I did, but hey I forgave myself!) and his style of being with somebody revolved around beating them down in a very sadistic fashion. He would remain calm and it would seem like he was trying to de-escalate, but it was like punching someone in the gut and then pretending like it doesn't matter and that I was making a big deal out of nothing. Seems like Amber really was desperate to be loved by JD, to have him love her in the same manner that she loved him. She's exceptionally beautiful, and is very charming. Thing is, seems like she has abandonment issues and he has a very unhealthy relationship style. Winona can say that he was great, but again I don't know what happened to break that relationship up. And it seems like whenever he messed up, he feels like somehow he's making it up to the people he hurt by acknowledging that he messed up to his subsequent partner (I guess it's guilt from moving on, problem is, those relationships are not about him). But imagine hearing that from someone you love, that the person they were with before you is the one they truly loved, and if they didn't ***k it up with them, then there was no way they would be with you. Like, why are you with me then? Go try to get that person back! Or is your ego so big that you'd rather torture yourself and me for mistakes that you made but your toxic masculinity wouldn't let you really try to fix?! Hearing that you're the one they settled for, even though there are people out there willing to step in front of a bus for you, while you are the kind of person who would step in front of a bus for them. Again, how gutting would that be? She may have abandonment issues, but he doesn't know how to relationship, and it's cruel. Edit: I actually thought their marriage was a sham PR stunt. No this was the real deal, they just have a lot of baggage. And imo, Depp is the more ***ked up out of the two. She just wanted him to love her, ironically even when they fought. Meanwhile, he was getting high and not working through his problems. I think the age discrepancy played a huge role there, Depp has had very serious relationships before that lasted long and failed; which he didn't seek therapy for after they ended (to my knowledge) but instead just became dependent on substances. Amber, was just too blind to see it.
Dear Dr G. A great checked shirt - totally appropriate for this checkered pair of not so star crossed lovers. Moral of the story is make haste slowly and don't get led by your genitals but get to know the person for at least a year - moving forward slowly. Your objective analysis and explanation of the therapist's session notes, is very appreciated and clear. Many thanks.
I can’t clinically diagnose anyone, but in my opinion based on the evidence I’ve read and seen, Heard is the evil, narcissistic, abusive one in this relationship. She proves that being pretty isn’t the most important thing.
I don’t think the situation is that black and white. Johnny and Amber were a couple with a toxic relationship. Neither was a victim. Both easily had resources to walk away. And, they are STILL not walking away despite being divorced for a number of years. They would be better off moving forward with their careers than engaging in public lawsuits that bring attention to their toxicity. I wonder how much the “aging former sex symbol” situation plays into their behavior.
@@reneegardner2286 I think that’s a distinct possibility. But we can’t diagnose people accurately by using the info they disseminate as public persona.
It’s difficult waiting for the verdict tbh. Once you’ve listened to those tapes, how she gaslights him, how totally illogical she is… I’m surprised they made it to a year. No one should or could live with someone who treats you like that.
@kibblewibble so you're saying they should be together still? Maybe he should lose another finger, oh thats right women cant abuse men in your definition cause of "power" grow up.
Very insightful Dr Grande. I've been following this case since the London case, very sad what Johnny is going through considering all the evidence that has been released thus far and what he has lost because of Amber's defamatory statements. Though it would be hard for Johnny to win this case as women are believed without evidence in claims of abuse, like Amber said, who would believe a man is being abused by a woman?
One of the security people out here in Australia said Amber would grab her suitcases, and make a scene saying she was leaving , when Johnny would ask her to come back, the security guy would have to go down to carry back up the suitcases. He said he could tell by the weight they were empty the whole time.
I FOUND YOUR DIALOGUE. AND ANNALASISES. VERY INTRIGUING AND INTERESTING, you give us outsiders a glimpse into their real personalities and motives and morals! Which only a therapist gets to see! Thanks again Dr GRANDE!! 😊
The therapist was as useless as the G in lasagna during their sessions. She didn't keep proper notes, she didn't know who came in when and clearly she didn't help either of them to the level of being non toxic.
she did four important things imo. She said that 1-Amber STARTED fights if she felt disrespected 2-johnny had no voice in therapy and that amber would talk over him like a jackhammer and 3-that Amber asked her about whether she should call the police to get the upperhand in a divorce 4- Also one more thing i'm not sure if this is good or not good for Johnny (because it's not true) but the media has picked it up saying that it was 'mutual vi0lence'. Before it was only 'Johnny is ENTIRELY guilty'. So the mainstream media needle has moved from Amber is an innocent-babe-in-the-woods to something that's not quite so innocent and not quite so pure and angelic.
i do agree with you on some points like the G is useless and maybe her notes could be better. :) but i'm going to suggest that the therapist thought she was brought in for actual couples counselling and didn't realize it was to create contemporaneous evidence for Amber to use in a divorce. She's not an investigator and wouldn't be able to determine that Amber would show off faked bruises or faked photos. She believed Amber wanted to fix the marriage when Amber was only looking to get the best divorce settlement from her cash cow and DV v1ctim.
I am a survivor of DA and SA. When I see someone perpetuating the “crying wolf” excuse to not believe and support victims I become extremely angry. Too many people use cases like these to show how women (men too) can lie about abuse so, we can not trust someone else’s experience. When I think back to how little support I got when I came out, I almost feel this hurt more than the abuse itself. It keeps future victims silent and even more opportunities for abuse occur bc these abusers go without punishment. We have a hard time being validated by society and Amber didn’t help.
I think it is important to know that during the testimony of Johnnys therapist the following day, he lied to the therapist and said he cut his finger tip-off, and took responsibility for Ambers's behaviour. We know this was not true, witnesses confirmed that Amber cut his finger tip off with a bottle. . Given this, any projection of the abuse being mutual conflict should not be taken seriously. We know that victims are manipulated by the abuser into thinking that they elicited the abuse and "deserve it". There is NO history of Johnny engaging in physical violence with anybody at any point in time. We have multiple people conferring that Amber is physically abusive. Even her assistant was manipulated into working for nothing, and tolerated physical and verbal abuse and never participated in it. It seemed very obvious to me that Amber had engaged in manipulative behaviour with the therapist by painting a picture of this being a case of mutual abuse. She seemed very aware of how the therapy could play out in her divorce and asked the therapist specific questions about how this would all play out in her divorce. For the first time, I have to say I'm disappointed with your take on this situation.
This appears to be the definition of a toxic relationship. I believe it started to go downhill swiftly during their trip here to Australia. This was coupled with the whole fiasco over them sneaking their dogs in. I'd love to hear your analysis of their "apology video". Here we joke it looked more like a hostage video. Keep the great videos coming Dr Grande! And Happy Easter! 🐰
Johnny was already in Australia filming a Pirate of the Caribbean. It was Amber that snuck the dogs in. It was her that forced him to make that apology video.
It was AH who illegally brought the dogs in to Australia, JD was already in Australia and not involved, in fact it has been reported that he specifically said he did not want her to bring the dogs. Being the gentleman he is JD assisted Amber by sharing the blame with her publicly.
@@shiinichie4013 Johnny was filming the POTC movie when she showed up with the dogs. Someone stupidly took the dogs to a groomer and bragged it was Johnny Depp's dogs. The person grooming the dogs took pictures of the dogs and posted them online. That's how she was caught. She was held criminally liable but mildly. They never went after Johnny. He paid for the jet to bring them back to America. All the paperwork is in Amber's name it doesn't say Johnny's name on top of both the assistants testimonies. He was forced into that video. Australia found out she lied and now wants to get her for perjury 6 years later and if she goes to Australia she will more than likely be jailed and most movies are filmed in Australia. Australia HATES her. She recently got a dog and named it after Barnaby Joyce.The guy who threatened to put the dogs to sleep if they weren't removed ASAP. Australia and the FBI are currently looking at getting her for perjury of the dogs. Johnny has never been criminally held responsible. He is just associated because of her being his wife and his dogs. And then the video.
The therapist only said what she heard from Amber, and Johnny wasn’t even present to defend himself! Btw, not that it’s likely, but why wouldn’t it be possible that Hollywood therapist has anything to gain from being partial? I know that’s happened before, so it’s possible l. Anything’s possible until it’s disproven. Not saying it’s the case here, but to conclude impartiality is always 100% true when it comes to therapists is just not true. The facts of this case will speak for themselves and they will show the world Amber is the abuser, and the liar.
I'm curious what it means when Amber keeps wearing items that Johnny wore the previous day in court. Beyond the obvious general thoughts that she's nuts.
Sometimes I think victims of abuse end up subconsciously seeking and creating toxic and abusive relationships as adults. It goes back to Freud's theories on how our desires in a relationship reflect our childhood experiences as that brings us comfort in our adult lives. This could explain why two people who experienced bad childhoods often result in a bad romance.
It's called codependency, which is very common in unhealthy relationships. The difference is that Amber is a codependent narcissist. Depp is also codependent, but does not appear to have a toxic cluster b personality disorder like Amber does. This is also a good example of how not all people with an unhealthy childhood turn out to be intentionally abusive, but rather people who react to those who are doing the provoking. Narcissists are notorious for provoking people on purpose until the victim ends up reacting to the aggressor, so the aggressor can find a way to flip the blame around and onto the victim. Rinse and repeat.
That therapist had only Amber's word of everything that supposedly took place. She saw for herself how Amber was concerning JD. I would like to know what JD told the therapist.
They might be mutually abusing, but while he left her go, she kept abusing him and destroying his life to this day. She can't let him live his own life.
She didn’t need to, she was purposely not mentioning his name while purposely alluding to him, than all the media jumped on it, not once did she come out to refute what the media was speculating, listen to the audio, she admitted to hitting him. She was the abuser.
Johnny said there had been "violence" and "she gave as good as she got". Having extensively read and covered the whole thing ( I mean all the court documents from Uk which was a crazy farce in that the judge decided to avoid all evidence and just decide Ms Heard was right) and much much more ; I have the following comments to make. I think he was actually trying to cover for Amber and protect her when he said there had been violence. I think 99% of it came from her. I honestly think she is borderline and narcissistic. I can imagine myself saying what he said having somehow got wrapped up in a toxic situation with someone. She worked on him to get him and rushed him into a mariage. She is outwardly beautiful and I believe is the kind of person who is appealing at first; but as you get to know them the craziness comes out. I am not saying Johnny is a saint. My reckoning is that he possibly slapped her once ; but to be honest she was constantly provoking him. The hostage situation and all of that have been shown to be total make believe. There are tapes of the situation. She had thrown a bottle at Johnny and cut his finger off. They had to find it to put it back on. It was Johnny who had to go to hospital and Amber though having claimed all sorts of abuse had no injuries. She has continually added to her stories of abuse with the latest thing being that there was also s*****l abused byJohnny. She claimed in many television appearances that it was not about money and she had donated all of her divorce settlement to two charities. This has since been proved not to be true. She never made a donation. The only donation they had was the first one that Johnny made before she asked for the money directly from him so she could donate but she never did. There is a lot more to this; she's a real piece of work. I agree that it is airing their dirty laundry. I think Johhny was seduced by her and it only evolved after some time what a narcissist she was. He actually said in the end that he realised that she was "never a real person". I have had the same traumatising experience myself but from a much younger age. I think he was manipulated by a borderline narcissist. He really loved the person he thought he had met and then to realise it was all unreal and that was not her ; that she just "an act"; I can relate to that, so I have sympathy for him. Whether the court case will work for him i'm not sure but this is evidence of how a borderline narcissist can wreck numerous lives and careers.
Totally agree. She's Borderline. He is the narcissist. You cannot photograph psychological and emotional abuse she suffered from him. I've been in this relationship dynamic more than once. Both I wish would just walk the f*ck away already..
Couples and individual therapy. I fell for that once. I really hadn't realized how my husband was so thoroughly manipulating the therapist and always I was at a disadvantage. It's been over thirty years since the divorce and sometimes I still marvel at how dumb I was and what a sap that therapist was.
You'd think the therapist would be smart enough to figure that out, but it seems like they don't. How can someone not as smart as the clients actually be able to help them?
30 years ago, no one was talking about narcissism & my narcissistic boyfriend back then charmed my therapist into taking sides with him especially since I wasn’t as articulate & was more hurt & emotional in my responses. Now, I look back and realize I had a narcissistic mother & was imprinted with certain behaviors which I thought were “normal” but they were not & I was attracted to men who had those qualities (and abusive bosses as well). I also turned to alcohol to numb myself out from all the hurt inside me. Now, I look back & marvel at how I walked away from that relationship despite him begging me to come back & despite the fact that I still loved him. But I knew we were toxic. He was toxic. And I also marvel that I now have 22 years of sobriety & and am able to identify my character defects as well as others’
The genius of Johnny Depp is his natural ability to study a personality and become that personality. I think he was sucked into a toxic personality. Seen it happen to a lot of people who seem to change for the better after a breakup with a toxic person.
Agree. I think I was 1/2 way through Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (watched it on HBO or something) before I realized it was Johnny Depp! I knew it was based on Hunter S Thomson’s book but I thought it was another actor I didn’t know!😂
Not impressed with the therapist at all; at the beginning of her testimony, she said, that she would mix, and write down the wrong subject noun? are you kidding me, so in one session it may have been that Amber said that she was hitting JD, but because she would "mixed" the pronouns ( she/he) the therapist wrote down HE was hitting. Did think she was very unprofessional.
OMG very very good point and i forgot that - but remember i didn't like when she said that at the time. i'm going to re-evaluate my opinion of this therapist. this makes me very suspicious. it's not a common error and it's not something a professional would easily admit too. If you did make the mistake you would point it out at a specific part if someone called it out and it was incorrect but you wouldn't suggest at a deposition 'oh i make gender switches all the time in my notes' for a trial viewed worldwide. amber tried that EXACT same excuse with nurse court statements. She said the medical professional meant 'he' instead of 'she'. Something about 'she suffers anxiety' - Amber said it was Johnny who suffered that. What would be the chances that her chosen therapist says she does the same thing with he and she..
imo This might be a payoff involved. Amber uses that excuse with professional testimony and now her therapist says she makes gender swaps in her notes OFTEN.
and there's something else. the words that are attributed to Johnny about him 'giving as good as he got'. And the therapist not writing down any more details or following up on that statement. To me that really sounds like Ambers words and ideas - not johnny's. She was saying things like 'it's a fair fight', 'i didn't deck you' and other stuff to him implying he was able to defend himself from her attacks. Maybe she asked for the therapist to ADD this to her testimony as well as admitting to gender swaps. Just imo
She ruined his life and I knew from the beginning she was lying. I have loved Johnny since he was on Nightmare on Elm Street and 21 Jump Street. What she described is just not him, as is evidenced by the trial witnesses, including family. She is a liar and a narcissist. Johnny Forever 💜💜💜
I sense this is Amber’s psychopathology of abandonment. The more this lingers, the more clear it becomes that Heard has been heard. Over and over again.
Vulnerable narcissist probably, those people often end up in abusive relationships because they really want to be loved. It's hilarious that everyone has been calling her a narcissist, but missed out on how this can be abused by a sadistic partner with unresolved issues from previous relationships. This is how it's coming off from what we're hearing now. I think this actually surprisingly makes her case better. It does prove that she's flawed, but in a manner where she can be taken advantage of. Her behavior is due to a desperate need for love and attention, to the point where she'd keep fights with him just to keep him engaged with her. With him, it does not sound like de-escalation anymore, it sounds like sadism, where he says something hurtful or initiates a fight, and after seeing how much in pain she is and that he did get a rise out of her, he'd walk away because "mission accomplished". Doesn't matter that he's calm, that actually makes it seem more sociopathic and deliberate. I don't think people ever considered that, but it honestly sounds more like a classic "battered wife" situation now. If he hadn't used substances I would have been more inclined to reconsider, but that's the thing about substance use, it can turn you into a really bad person. I don't think that's how he normally is, but he definitely has baggage that he needed to work through before marrying a woman who's so vulnerable she'd do anything to get his attention (Even when her efforts seem to clearly result in the opposite effect, or maybe the desired effect if hurting her was what he really wanted, consciously or subconsciously).
@@samf.s.7731 unbelievable.....your notions are reversed...she is by far the unbalanced one. Do you know what it is like to deal with unbalanced ppl ???? it's like your running uphill all the time.
Informative video, Dr. Grande! I did not realize that couples in therapy did not go when things got better and I learned alot from this video. Thank you!
Thanks for giving a fair, balanced analysis of this, Dr. Grande. People in support of either side seem to enjoy playing dumb when it comes to the negatives of the opposition.
I listened to a reporter interview another reporter who is attending the trial. It sounds like there's a lot of alcohol abuse involved between the couple. So far JD has had good witnesses come forward with accounts. ie, JD's sister who said their mother was abusive and JD dealt with the mothers abuse by taking flight. It also sounds like JD has financial problems. It's a circus. AH claims she still feels love for JD. His behavior in the court room is stoic, she's more eye contact and smiles towards those in the court room. Both are putting on their best acting skills. it's too early in the trial to see where it's going.
she never loved him - but she did love his wallet. When they first started dating she said he was a fat old man to her assistant. Another witness said she saw amber attack him and called him a fat old man. and jerry judge (security) told his sister that she called him a fat old man. It wasn't a joke, it wasn't funny - but it was how she felt about him. There was no love from her side :(
If you’re a bloke like me whose worried about being single. Look at Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp, they could probably get any woman they want but they’re both divorced. I guess relationships really are a roulette wheel
What an interesting way to look at this. The therapist's point of view is one I haven't considered before. All I can say is I'm glad that's not my career choice. I'm grateful some are equipped to do it. Just glad it's not me. 😊
I think your analysis of these two is spot on. How you are able to make your analysis so fair and not done with any bias is always amazing to me. Thanks again for the humor as well as the analysis.
I agree with Dr. Grande 100%. I believe that using the therapy notes as evidence in a trial was very unprofessional. Another excellent situation analysis by Dr. Grande!
What you say makes sense. Dr. Grande. However, Johnny Depp's career did suffer greatly as a result of Amber's op-ed. He was dismissed by Disney. So, at the risk of looking bad in the public eye, should he just take a back seat and not try to get justice for himself? To restore his reputation in his industry and recover some of his losses? I think you're wrong there. Also, I disagree that both parties were equally abusive. I think Amber Heard initiated most of the altercations and then cried wolf if Johnny defended himself. She also exaggerated and even fabricated his part in their physical battles. I feel this was deliberate on her part. Her intent was malicious and the desired result is definitely to damage her ex-husband's reputation. It's called revenge. Amber thought she could exact revenge with impunity. I watched her deposition of 2016 and have to say that she came through as a lying freak. As a victim of domestic violence myself, I could tell that she was acting a part. When you're abused, there is no way you can keep calm while describing abusive episodes. Amber did it like she was narrating a story of third parties. It was eerie to me and actually quite frightening. I believe the victim here is Johnny Depp. I hate to say it because I know that there are more abused women than men, but, yes, men can be victims of abuse, too. And, unfortunately, the scales tips heavily on the side of women when it comes to physical violence, so anything Amber says will be taken seriously while Johnny's would tend to be downplayed by virtue of his superior strength.
@@hindalmaeeni8088 i think his research is adequate. There is no way that johnny Depp is completely scotch free, but i do believe that amber heard was more abusive than johnny Depp.
I have been following this case thoroughly! I feel so bad for Johnny, he has been totally traumatized by this evil BPD and NDP woman! The case is strong in Johnny’s favor. Thank god.
I did not see a playlist for this case, though that would be nice. Thanks Dr. Grande, for all the hard work you do for us. My life has drastically improved by watching your videos (in combination with many similar resources out there and counseling). I’ve shared your videos with friends and will continue to do so!
If I had only watched this one video, I’ve gained an understanding of a prior experience with counseling that my subscription to this channel is now worth a lot more to me. Thank you, Dr. Grande!
The channel Incredibly Average has recordings of JD & AH I found interesting. They both use drugs and drink. Women from JD's past and people he's known have nothing but good things to say about him. She was charged in the past with domestic abuse. The 911 call when she claims to have been abused sounded like a lady ordering pizza. Anyone who's been trapped in a marriage with a Narcissist sees clearly what's going on.
Reflecting what you said about Amber, and switching it round...if Johnny is partiality responsible then can he be the victim? I see how you missed saying that the therapist said, Amber admitted to hitting first. There's also the fact that DV can be just verbal. There's only one person who ended up in hospital, and no convincing photographic evidence of actual damage to Amber. If she could photograph the shower screens and the mirror, then she could photograph her injuries.
@@reneegardner2286 Have I heard of emotional abuse? Or Dr Grande? I have been through emotional abuse myself, so yes. I've dealt with a partner who pushed every button, I got frustrated and yelled at him, so in theory I'm as bad. Shouting is abusive. He was very quiet, manipulative and gaslighted me constantly. Oh he hit as well. But I was told that we were as bad as eachother. He punched my stomach with both my pregnancies. Oh yes, I know what abuse is. My ex had a history of it from childhood. He would gaslight his parents, his siblings and his friends, none of them were passionately supportive like Isaac or Johnny's sister. With Johnny there's no history of abusive behaviour. With Amber there is history, her mother, her sister, her ex. She also tries to triangulate people, Jason Mamoa, Kevin Costner etc. I'm not a big fan of Johnny, and I thought him dreadful for beating his wife, until the words coming out of Amber's mouth convinced me that it's her. You, I assume, are fortunate enough not to be a DV victim, or you'd know better.
@@TM-tx9ct Ok, me too. I have B.P.D. and have dated several narcissists. Dealt with physical, emotional, sexual, financial, verbal, and psychological abuse. I also had reactive abuse. They BOTH have alot of mental health issues and I see it as a Borderline and a narcissist. He sits back cool and calm while she explodes looking like the perpetrator
Brilliant analysis Dr. G! I learned so much from your insights, your experience and knowledge of human behavior is awesome! I appreciate the way you explain your thoughts so concisely!
Thanks again 😃Dr Grande for another in depth insightful analysis..I go back & watch all of your past videos, and alwYs look forward to your charming wit with every new upload!
Word of advice… if you’re in a relationship that’s abusive with a person who’s well liked and has lots of loyalty from friends and family… GTFO RIGHT NOW… you will never win trying to convince these people that the person they love and adore is capable of abuse and those people can’t change their abusive behaviors anyways. Years of abuse can anxiety and that anxiety can cause you to get frustrated and angry… it’s hard to control these feelings, abusers know how to act in front of people… there’s a reason they’ve been able to get away with this behavior for a long period of time.
and sometimes the victim is so broken they can barely express themself. apparently she was overbearing w jackhammer speech, he became overwhelmed. that's not even a friend, let alone a romantic partner
@@chloeswigs3680 jackhammer speech? I would google that (or pressured speech)… people with anxiety and bipolar tend to use that type of speech when they’re feeling anxiety or possible going through a manic episode, it’s like they have to get all the things in their head out before anyone interrupts them. Sometimes people need real help, not a marriage counselor or therapist who’s goal is to fix a broken marriage that’s well beyond repair. When you are with a person who has used his cool calm demeanor to win people over for years…. It will feel like literal torture. When people are suffering, in fear, a constant state of anxiety… they don’t know how to control their behaviors around people… but the abuser usually does, it’s a no win situation. Thank god I’m not married but there is a reason I do not like marriage counselors…. they will always take the side of the calm one, the one who wants to keep the relationship together… without wondering “hmmm for a couple that fights a lot and has a lot of real issues… it’s kinda funny how he’s soooo calm and nice around me and never shows anger”… it’s called manipulation.
13:20 In any relationship both partners are partially responsible. If what Dr. Todd Grande said here were true, there would never be anyone who could claim DV of any gender. Everyone has the ability to leave if not at the time than after the very first incident. Just to be clear this is a one-way copout that he would never use on a female claiming DV. It allows him to say that in the case of a male being abused he is still responsible for the abuse. I wonder how many times Dr. Todd Grande has not used this line of 'reasoning' with male victims of female perpetrators and how many times he has used it with female victims of male perpetrators. He is arguing because JD isn't absolutely perfect, he on some level deserves to be abused. To be clear no one deserves to be abused even if on some level they are partially responsible for not removing themselves from the situation. If your relationships with one person is harming yourself or others, it is time to LEAVE IT! It is difficult to recognize sometimes, and no one is perfect. Doctors in the mental health professions should not be looking for ways to blame people who find themselves in such a situation. That is another abusive situation and no amount of credentials excuses it.
To my mind, the most critical factor is that Johnny Depp's ex-wives came forward to say that he hadn't been abusive with them. I give that a high weight, because domestic abuse is usually a recurring pattern over the adult lifetime, not something that spontaneously emerges in middle age. In contrast, Amber Heard *has* been previously arrested for domestic violence in a prior relationship. This leads me to think that she's the prime driver of the toxicity in the relationship. Do you think Amber Heard could have Borderline Personality Disorder? Her intense fear of abandonment makes me wonder, because in that previously released audio of a discussion between them included a time Heard went ballistic because of Johnny Depp wanting to spend a few hours with a male friend without Heard being there. I'm not a psychologist, but that seems over-controlling. I suspect that if you did a Duluth Power and Control Wheel with each of them, Heard would be the one pinging a lot more categories than Depp.
You can’t expect change if you keep repeating the same behavior. It’s so true and I’ve heard it many times.Your excellence is showing today Doc! Thanks 😊
Moral of the story: Choosing the right partner is about more than just attraction. Failing to assess their true character can be devastating to you and your future
Well said.
Very true. Most people go for superficial things such as looks or money, or are scared to be alone etc. Too bad the deeper, harder to see, qualities aren't taken into acct or discovered.
Zena - As always fine comment! Incels always seem to me to try for the wrong women and then are so surprised and hurt not to have the relationship work out! Surface beauty and shallowness (although not always together) do not constitute the important traits in a person!
@@bthomson Agreed. They go for the pretty girl or handsome guy but put up with bad behaviors, then stay to fix or justify their behaviors, and yes act surprised when it goes south. Thanks for your comment to me, appreciated. Happy Easter tomorrow 🐰🦋🌹ps what do you mean by incels lol? Actors?
So glad someone else said this. It's hard for me to find sympathy for him. What did he expect when he leave a good woman (who he refused to marry) and then immediately marry someone half his age that he clearly didn't know much about?
Jonny just needs to play the tapes of Amber discussing abusing him, medicating him, and screaming like an insane person. She has abused other partners in the past. Jonny has not.
Psychopaths often project their own behavior on others.
@@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 Psychopathy is thrown out loosely. Are you a psychologist/psychiatrist? I doubt it. No professional therapist would throw out a comment such as yours. It’s reckless and irresponsible.
@@Nira39 lots of people will suffer because of the comment. A lot of lives will be lost, very irresponsible.
@@Nira39 when did this woman claim to be a Dr?? Looks who's projecting, now. Calm down, woke person. Psychopathic behavior usually comes out in unprovoked attacks and anonymous social media aggressions.
@@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 Yeah, but she's more of a narcissist than a psychopath. If she was truly a psychopath she wouldn't care about criticism or be trying to victimize herself, which is commonly lacking in them.
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EDIT: Yes, I'm aware that psychopaths have narcissistic traits too, but they are not clinical narcissists (NPD).
Having traits that overlap doesn't mean someone is a comorbid narcissist/psychopath, as there are still distinctive characteristics that make them different from one another.
I've been watching the entire trial and imo it definitely feels more weighted in Johnny's favor. Where he can point to a pattern of her domestic abuse, she can only keep pointing to his addiction issues. Which he is not on trial for. But he consistently demonstrates self awareness and takes responsibility for his addiction, while at no point does Amber demonstrate any personal responsibility.
Narcissists never do, it’s always the other person who is to blame for everything.
Same, Amber has created a web of lies and truly didn't care who was effected by them, and now is stuck in the web and must face the countless lies. Alot of reporting is not reporting all just snippets, for those of us who are watching fully. Johnny clearly has demonstrated this week there's a very different, difficult private Amber.
@@KAP1984 Exactly great to see 👀 it all play out. 👍
I’ve seen multiple lawyers say the opposite, Johnny’s lawyers have to prove ambers intent. Which as of now doesn’t seem they’ll be able to prove. This testimony from the therapist shows that Johnny did do more than he previously admitted to
That is all true. However, it may not matter in a legal battle. He has to prove defamation.
But Johnny LOST his career and reputation-not her. As a DV survivor(hospitalized) her smirking and arrogance on the stand was opposite of me. I was scared to death in court and thankfully had police protection. Amber is disgusting on so many levels!!
Her fake sad face when her team makes allegations against whatever she claims Johnny did is so aggravating!
There are a LOT of ways someone can respond to such a situation. The way Amber Heard is acting is not one of them.
her body language vs his: you can tell exactly who the victim and who the agressor was
Exactly… for the first time i think Dr Grande didn’t do a thorough research before coming to conclusions…
Yes... I AGREE 💯
I'm a survivor of domestic violence too.
Anyone who has been in an abusive relationship with a narcissist knows all too well the crazy making behavior they invoke. When you try to defend yourself and become overly emotional, you are accused of being the crazy one, the abusive one, the emotionally unstable one. I don’t buy her bullshit claims. The writing is on the wall and it’s all in red.
Yeah, except she's Borderline clearly and he's the narcissist!!!
@@reneegardner2286 it doesn't matter what they are....it matters what they do. I don't believe
Amber at all. Because I don't think Johnny 'did' anything but tried to love an unlovable person.
Amber is an abusive person.
But it sounds like vulnerable narcissim, and that he threw gasoline over that fire.
He sounds sadistic. She sounds clingy.
They both brought out the worst in each other.
you can literally see a narcissist power down when you finally give an emotional response. 😒
The thing about Dr. Anderson’s testimony was that the accusation of violence by JD only came up when she was seeing the therapist by herself, which was never brought up or confirmed by JD either in joint sessions or his solo sessions. She also noted that AH had asked if she would have an advantage if she called the police before filing for divorce and was noted to be strategizing. Personally, I think the “gave as good as she got” referred to verbal arguments, especially if he had no idea what AH had said in her solo sessions. The incongruent bruises that showed up less than a week after AH’s musings about calling the cops seem to point to the probable hoax.
AH has been caught in too many major lies in and out of court to not at least consider that these abuse allegations are completely false, or she’s distorted his attempts at self defense.
Didn't Depp lose a fingertip to a wine bottle that Heard threw?
@@bnic9471 yep, in Australia
I don’t believe her. I think she’s full of it. But to be fair, a victim of abuse might not bring up the abuse in front of the abuser so her not bringing it up in front of him wouldn’t necessarily prove anything for me.
exactly
This is a great point.
Her poor me (perpetual victimhood) act doesn’t wash with me. As a survivor of domestic violence, I find it utterly disgusting & a disservice to other survivors when people like her lie about it!! 🤬
She punished him for having the audacity to leave her. So in true narcissistic style she smeared him in the worst way she could.
# STILL TEAM JOHNNY
You see dependant personality disorder and vulnerable narcissism unfortunately can make a person a perpetual victim unless they receive CBT for them.
There's a reason why people end up in abusive relationships and can't leave. Even when their partner is inflicting loads of harm on them.
Do not weigh in on something you're neither academically nor professionally qualified to weigh in on, please, you are here dealing damage to victims with those conditions. Both men and women. You're blaming a victim for having a pathology that makes them easy to be taken advantage of and makes it hard for them to leave abusive relationships.
We all don't know what happened, but now, very classic patterns of DV have emerged.
I’m also a victim of domestic violence , I stayed in a domestic violence shelter , 90% of the women were lying , some just because they had nowhere to go and lied about dv just to get a shelter instead of ending up on the streets , others because they wanted to get revenge from their husbands for “ignoring them” and get benefits . Because of women like that , the court system doesn’t believe in true victims anymore .
@@samf.s.7731 and are you academically or professionally qualified to weigh in? If so did you give treatment to either of the couple? You see, like it or not, we are all entitled to an opinion......
fam, i don't want to offend you, but for the sake of amber's daughter, it's better that johnny depp lose this case. It's better that amber wins and her kid grows up well, and away from her mother, because boarding school and what not. remebermber that amber will or might take her frustrations out on that child, in the future if she loses. It's better for one man to be crucified so that other's may have a better life.
@@samf.s.7731 anyone can speak to this regardless of their experience or expertise so dismissing someone because you don't think they have the qualifiers is pointless.
After a certain point it doesn't matter why someone is abusive. doesn't matter how much victimization of their own is behind their behavior or whether or not they've sought out appropriate treatment for it, that's their responsibility - if they're abusive to you you need to leave, that's your responsibility.
And the original commenter was absolutely right - people who lie about abuse, regardless of their own authentic history of receiving it, do a disservice to real victims as well as (and no less significantly though not much remarked upon) a disservice to the true victim they once were.
Her behavior has been a net bad and she deserves to suffer legal consequences. Hope they throw the book at her with as much skill as she throws liquor bottles.
I disagree. I think Johnny Depp really had no choice then to sue. He lost work on the Pirates franchise as well as the Harry Potter franchise. He lost millions because of a false accusation. She had the chance to fess up and tell the truth but she chose not to. Johnny wants his reputation back and unfortunately she gave him no choice but to sue.
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Johnny Depp made over $600 million from the Pirates franchise before the Amber thing ever happened, and the man was stupid enough to waste it on private islands, private yachts, fourteen houses, dozens of cars, gigantic art collections that sit in storage, etc. There was a length Rolling Stone article about how he lost all his money through dumb investments and excessive crazy spending. 🤷🏼♀️ The man even tried to sue his own business managers alleging that it was somehow their fault that he was paying $300,000 on a pair of cuff links and other idiotic purchases. Depp can’t even pay his taxes anymore coz he’s close to broke. He’s close to bankruptcy but that is NOY because Amber “destroyed his career” - he was nearly broke before her allegations.
@@mistym0rning because ur not great with money doesn’t give anyone the right to physically abuse you, make vile allegations against you, and ruin your chances of ever working again. If you don’t agree with Johnny Depp’s life choices fine, but it never excuses her behavior.
@@mistym0rning JD is what I call an Emotional thinker who,' like many people, makes emotional decisions.
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But it's his money which he earned, and thought to be earned continuously, given that AH didn't ruin his reputation.
If you'd lost your jobs and future jobs due to some BS another person threw at you, wouldn't you sue them?
Disney just recently had some of it's employees conflicted of child trafficking, and they are worried about Johnny ruining their image? 🤦
Yeah like the Chislain Marxell case. Epstein’s enabler. Then the focus is on JD & AH which fits Bill Gates, Bill Gates, etc
One thing I’ve been curious about: I’m a couples therapist and I’ve always been told to discontinue couples therapy if there is evidence of ongoing DV (harm reduction model). It stood out to me that their therapist continued to work with them.
Agreed. Very questionable practices by this therapist.
Isn't she a mandated reporter ?
Probably money? Or access? Or also being manipulated by their celebrity clients to keep working for them in exchange for all that. It's probably the same principle behind how some otherwise professional people turn into enablers for celebrities because it's basically the job they got hired for. Person that comes to mind is the doctor that regularly (& illegally) administered anesthesia drugs to Michael Jackson because he asked for them. After MJ died, that guy went to jail and lost his license. Basically, I think if you're in the orbit of a celebrity that big, they pretty much ask you to do anything and everything for them and you pretty much end up doing it even if it violates your practice's usual standards and ethics. Not giving an excuse. Just theorizing on what leads some people to do certain things.
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Definitions vary by state, but a mandated reporter in general is someone who must report abuse of “vulnerable” individuals. Children, disabled people and frail elderly definitely qualify. But I really don’t see evidence that either Johnny or Amber are vulnerable.
Very true
Brilliant analysis as always Dr.
However, JD has already paid with his career and reputation loss. While AH faced no consequences. If anything, this trial gives JD the chance to tell his side of the story.
💯 Exactly my view! Johnny Depp had already lost everything. He didn’t really have much choice. It was daft to sue the Sun newspaper in Britain! Freedom of the press is really protected. He possibly received bad legal advise…
I got sucked down the rabbit hole last year & actually listened to the 1 1/2 hour long recorded conversation between them. To be honest, I started as a fan of Depp’s acting talent & a pretty heavy pro-women bias. I was listening for ‘evidence’ of guilt. By the end of the recording I was disgusted by AH. She verbally abused, gaslit & manipulated him with such cruelty. She went as far as ridiculing his ‘weakness’ for NOT fighting back when she hits him!! Basically, ‘A real man wouldn’t run away to avoid violence!’ 😳🤬
Depp has had the reputation of drinking & taking drugs for DECADES now!! That never hurt his career. Her accusations of physical (AND NOW!!) sexual abuse have destroyed his reputation & career. It’s cruel. I felt quite sorry for Depp. It seems like MANY people take advantage of him. Why were her friends & family members living FREE in HIS penthouse apartments??!
It's not going to work. The Burden to prove he was hurt is much higher in this case. He has no chance. When Depp takes the stand he will be grilled by her Lawyer and be forced to tell the truth
@@suzimonkey345 I've read many comments in regard to this matter and you'll be very pleased to know that most people are still supporting Johnny Depp and are totally against Amber Heard!
You're right about his career and reputation being affected though, not to mention his health and well-being, which I can relate to. 😥
@@suzimonkey345 Rumors and established fact are different.
It's like starting a rumor vs saying something under the penalty of purjury.
He couldn't get fired based off of rumors.
And what we're okay now with drug dependency because it serves a toxically masculine rhetoric and a sexist agenda?!
You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot. No, people are not supposed to be addicted to drugs. Happy Easter, you weirdos.
I wonder what the odds are that Johnny Depp changed who he was; his character after meeting Amber? It's been known for a very long time that Johnny has substance issues, but no previous partner has ever said he's been physically abusive, even while intoxicated. Amber however has been previously arrested for domestic violence with a prior partner. Psychologically it doesn't fit that his personality would completely change. I can see a relationship where one partner thrives on constant drama and the other partner only being able to take so much. I myself was in a relationship that was verbally and physically abusive. I would sometimes fight back after being hit and we'd end up in a brawl with one another. I never started the physical aspect but I would engage after being hit or thrown. Since that relationship I have never been in another relationship like that one, because it isn't who I am or who I want to be.
You're not taking into account her issues. Vulnerable narcissismakes it very hard for her to walk away when a partner is abusive, something that his previous partners apparently didn't suffer from.
This was a very bad match, where he was sadistic and destructive, and she couldn't walk away from him.
I am glad you broke your cycle. I knew a man (he grew up next door to me in a large family and I was his next door neighbor, he was the first to marry. The couple then moved on the other side of me. I babysat their children. The wife spent a lot of time with me.. she constantly talked about her Italian temper and how it wasn't her fault. The man divorced her. He told people that she would throw her iron at him. No one believed him. She then married another young neighbor, who like the first man was a great passive man. It was a short marriage.. he talked to a woman at a party while she held court with other men. She started the fight as soon as they got home..she ended the argument by sticking her sewing scissors in his chest. He died. I was a close, overhead neighbor of one couple and then a young man hiding out while trying to divorce. First couple I would hear her yelling abuse at the husband and then it would end either much being thrown. The sweet guy who was on the run didn't live below us long. His wife found out where he lived. We witnessed her breaking in thru a window since he wouldn't open his door. It ended in a huge fight with her even smashing a 100 gallon fish tank. Ii was horrible. We couldn't call the cops. It was a time when the police would have arrested him. We saw the destroyed apartment in the morning. He then left and found a new place to hide and by night my now exhusband helped him move. We were sad to see him go. He was much loved in our apartment complex.
@@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083 Women are not protected when they should be and not held to account when they should be. We now have a problem with the far right indoctrinating boys into inceldom, boys who have seen more of the latter behaviour, ie controlling women who abuse and use men. It's all coming to a head because society looks for someone to blame instead of asking where the behaviour comes from. Until we look for and treat the cause there are going to be innocent guys like you describe as well as innocent women murdered. The nice person, a lot of the time, is the vulnerable one who ends up dead. The problem as always starts in upbringing.
I don’t believe it was him changing his character, so much as him reacting to the abusive nature Amber had in the relationship. It triggered him, the therapist said that. Which in that case, leads me to believe he was the victim of the abuse. Yes, he may have reacted and tried to defend himself, but that doesn’t make him an abuser. A good way to think about it, is if the abuser did not act the way they did the victim would not have reacted. You kick a puppy enough times it will bite you… that’s not the puppy’s fault.
The key to figuring out which came first, is who takes responsibility and how does the person react when called out on abusive behaviors? Do they lash out, blame the other person for making them act that way, belittle them and name call? Or do they apologize and take responsibility for their part in the action? There is audio of this playing out in their own words, and it is clear who the aggressor was… and it wasn’t Johnny.
Reactive abuse is real.
They should just play those tapes, they are very telling. Im sure johnny had his problems, but wasn't abusive. He seemed to de-escalate the fights by simply walking away.
Those tapes reveal everything about AH. She is totally irrational, evidently abusive and she also gaslights him throughout. I could not believe my ears when I listened to them.
@kibblewibble
He has every right to what he is doing. Amber had all the resources to be able to get away from Johnny. She wasn't stuck, she was a willing participant. And you do realize what you said you fear to happen to victims is actually what happened to Depp. Can you imagine being fired from your job if your significant other called your job and accused you of domestic violence and they let you go because they believed their word of yours. He shouldn't have lost any of his jobs do to allegations.
@kibblewibble johnny, like many v1ctims of DV, has been silenced by his abuuser. Amber got the upperhand of the narrative and has been talking about it nonstop to the media and anyone who will listen 'like a jackhammer'. now he wants to tell his side of the story - the side of THE truth not just his truth. dont begrudge a v1ctim the chance to legally clear his name
Curious, why do you think he isn't though?!
If they're so damn great?!
Could it be because they were taped with one side knowing they were recorded which allows them to manipulate a conversation through careful selection of words?
Or maybe because they make him seem manipulative?
Or maybe because he was trying to make it seem like she's the only one who's physically abusive when their therapist has said that they both have been? Which means he was deliberately manipulating the public into favoring his side.
Curious indeed!
@@lillyCfields she is a vulnerable narcissist with fear of abandonment. I get that you didn't listen to the testimony, but did you not listen to THIS VIDEO?!
When my daughter had to testify against her abusive ex-boyfriend, she shook so hard I was afraid her heels would fall off. I watch body language as well as listen. AH literally keeps her nose up in the air. I know she's an actress, but she isn't that good. I think she's a hot-headed, insecure, narcissistic liar who thrives on fighting. Calling JD a "coward" and a "fat old man" are the kinds of things that make a man crumble inside. That's what's known as fighting dirty, and it never solves the problem. It just creates more. I think she's an ego killer. I hope he wins!
Yes, "fighting dirty" is what narcissists love doing.
I also think it points out to the beginning of mental abuse. Why would anyone want you? You are fat and old. You are lucky you have me. Only difference this time it’s a man.
Acting on a set as a character that's directed, or real life are quite different. Actors have emotions.
@@gwenwalravens8030 Yes, they have emotions, but Amber is clearly working to stay in character.
You have great comments. Amber needs to be sent to the front line in Ukraine.
This analysis seems to consider the therapist deposition in isolation and assumes the therapist was accurate in her assessments. There are audio tapes of the two of them where Johnny said that no physical violence should be allowed in their marriage and Amber talked about wanting to hit Johnny because that’s how mad she gets. There is a great deal of evidence publicly available that would be necessary to do a proper analysis of the therapist. Amber’s own deposition made her look like a total psycho, imo. It was scary to watch as she grinned while thinking about punching Johnny.
And, she has been arrested *there is a mugshot of her for hitting an old gf in 2009* .....if they had that kind of info on Johnny he would be sitting his
A== in jail. lopsided justice system.
7:00 7:16 he kinda addresses this, and said therapists session notes are for active treatment and not meant to be used as evidence in a trial...
But I agreewith you. He clearly hasn't studied the numerous details of the case like many of us have (me lol). Hopefully as the case progresses he'll give an update or something
@@sportsbadcalls334 seriously though society has a long way to go when it comes to fair treatment for victims. There's a mountain of proof showing amber is guilty yet Johnny is the only one who has suffered the consequences of her abussse. It's honestly baffling how much the media skews everything in ambers favor. It's like ARE WE IN THE SAME REALITY?? How do they not see it?!
@@Alleellaa They call mutual abuse because I believe DV teaches therapists and alike that one who slams a cabinet door shut is threatening the other. So if Johnny doesnt close a door perfectly he is a 'mutual abuser" ....it is society drawing a line to where abuser starts. weird.
This video is only an analysis of the video deposition and nothing more. As stated in the title of the video. It's not a verdict on the case in general only on the deposition on it's own.
Did anyone see Johnny Depp's long time friend testify? He had the defense completely speechless (literally). Does not look good for Amber Heard at all!
Friend... Partial
Therapist.... Impartial.
The defensive doesn't need more than that to discredit a testimony.
@@samf.s.7731 He came across as being totally impartial and truth worthy.
@@samf.s.7731 Everything the doctor said about physical violence came from Ambers mouth when Depp wasn't present though. If I tell my therapist that my husband hits me, that's gospel I guess.
I love that guy. He made me cry with him.
Great humble guy and one special legal "exhibit" of how generous and good vibe is for real Johnny by far!!
Amber reminds me of my abusive ex husband. He had the same fear of abandonment and made it his life’s mission to punish me for leaving him. It’s very scary to be with someone like that
All the best, Mona. Stay strong.
💜✨
@Mona Davey- ditto 🙄.
10 years after my divorce my ex FINALLY gave me the silent treatment... THANK GOD!!!
I feel ya
Yup, my mom sued me and then disinherited me in her will when I ‘abandoned’ her… by getting a serious boyfriend at age 38. 🙄
Life is sooo much better now.
Doesn't it seem odd that Johnny Depp has dated some of the most famous and beautiful women in Hollywood and there hasn't been any controversy when they have parted ways? He married AH because she love bombed him and pushed all of his buttons. She is the dangerous narcissist in this mix. No one mentioned her constant interruptions during their counselling sessions most likely trying to control the situation. No wonder JD couldn't find his voice.
More than that they all came out and said he was the sweetest most gentle person they ever knew.
And those relationships failed. He literally took responsibility for how one very high profile one ended.
Do you not think this creates baggage that he chooses to deal with partially through drug consumption?
And then he takes said baggage into newer relationships...
@@nicci337 not kate moss
He wanted a trophy- she wanted a ride on his career jet. (Just want to say- Amber is a vile bitch but he was intoxicated by her beauty)
@@samf.s.7731 The relationships didn't fail, they ended.
One point I wish you had brought up… actually two.
One, that the therapist stated clearly that amber only spoke of Johnny’s violence when he wasn’t present. And there was no mention of them talking through it in couple sessions. Not to say it didn’t happen, but it was not mentioned or clarified to the court.
Two, the fact that mutual abuse is something that rarely happens. There are victims of abuse who do engage in maladaptive behavior because they have been pushed to their limit and need to either defend themselves or try to self preserve the best they can. But there is going to be someone who has more control/power over the other person. That person is clearly Amber, as basically agreed by the therapist herself. Johnny was triggered by Amber’s abusive behavior, he didn’t cope with it well. Because no one who is subjected to abuse does.
Mutual abuse is common between a Borderline and Narcissist tho. I have a lifetime of experience to speak from. Not sure why people aren't talking more about it.
@@reneegardner2286 I'm sorry you've experienced that. Do you have any credible reading for such abuse? I'm genuinely curious, I'd love to read more about it, because from what I've read and seem to understand is that most recent research suggests there isn't. And if I'm wrong, I don't want to spread misinformation.
That said, I don't believe JD to have any of those diagnosis. Whereas AH may, if i recall correctly from the UK trial about someone having mentioned a diagnosis for her.
@@jillianj310 99.9% of narcissists aren't diagnosed so of course Johnny looks like the victim while Amber seems the abusive Borderline. Watch some videos by Sam Vaknin. He is a diagnosed narcissist. He has tons of videos on NPD and BPD
@@reneegardner2286 I'll look into it, thanks!
Playing devils advocate here though, if JD had npd... Wouldn't that come up in past relationships? Again, genuinely asking. I have no idea if he is or isn't and I admittedly don't know much about npd. But from what we've heard of him in his long career and past relationships, it's never something that's come up.
@@reneegardner2286 Johnny is eccentric, part of his brilliance really, but I never spotted him as narcissistic.
Dr. grande, I would like to respectfully disagree with some of your conclusions.
1) I do not think that this trial is going better for Ms. Heard. Up to this week, through the mas media and the Uk libel case, she has cast her self in the role of blameless, perfectly innocent victim, who was under the control of her tyrannical husband, who would terrorize her and abuse her, while she was too frightened and small and week to respond. After this week and Dr. Anderson deposition, it is clear this is not the case. She was the leading, provoking, aggressive, more frequently violence initiating part of this couple, if not the single aggressor. On top of that she was strategizing and already preparing herself for filing a domestic violence report to gain upper hand in upcoming divorce. So, although, Dr. Anderson’s testimony was damaging for both of them, she did not say anything about Mr. Depp that was not already discussed in the public and many new, unfavorable things for Ms. Heard.
2) When discussing whether an actual malice can be reasonably inferred from her behavior, please consider the fact that if Mr. Depp’s side demonstrates that she faked bruises, altered photos and described events of domestic violence and injuries, which objectively could not have happen, then actual malice is definitely present. These would be actual acts of fraud, hence actual malice is inferred.
3) And the most important thing, I completely disagree with your qualification of this trial as a show or movie or gig. It is about domestic abuse or alternatively false accusations of domestic abuse and their impact in the persons life. Disregarding Ms. Heard and/or Mr. Depp and their suffering from the first resp. the latter, only because they are rich and famous, is simply wrong.
Excellently written.
I’m kinda in the middle in this trial so I was wondering about your second point. Was there a real evidence that AH faked bruises/injuries? I tried to research it but all I saw was “he said she said” kinda evidence. Basically Amber’s friends claim they saw bruises while Johnny’s friends claim they didn’t. Is there an actual testimony from a neutral witness?
Well said.
This youtube content creator should be ashamed of this baseless assessment.
@@Oktaviii I've been following it very loosely. All I know is that she claimed to use a specific consealor/foundation to hide bruises and it was proven that the brand didn't even make that line of makeup during the time period they claimed Amber used it.
@@Oktaviii Yes the police officers who were called to the scene did not see any bruises or injuries on Amber Heard at the scene of the alleged violence.
She spoke a lot about fighting in her and Johhny’s recorded phone calls- she says several times to him “I just want you to stay and fight not walk out like a coward”
What woman wants a man to stay & fight I mean come on that is strange in itself. Then if he tried to leave does she attack him? If he stays and tries to talk it through amicable AH resorts to shouting and screaming and JD can not get a word in so leaves. Who can blame him I know I would.
Translation: “Mirror my behavior, I want you to act like me because I have no control over my emotions and if we are both acting this way, I am justified in my petulance.
Yes, I doubt a victim would ask the abuser to stay and fight
Narcissists are cowards and Borderline like to "fight" or try to get answers in an argument. He's too calm that's why she acts out. Someone with experience in a relationship between a BPD and NPD can understand
@@charlottecomfort2446 Exactly!
If someone doesn't allow you to remove yourself from a situation when you are trying to, then what? She would hit him to force a reaction. How much is a person expected to take?
This is so sad. In my opinion, she was the violent agressor with a mindset to destroy what she could not have. It appears that she has succeeded.
Yes but what if you said something extremely painful and aggrevating intentionally to drive the other person nuts. Just because you can because you have a cluster fuck worth of problems that you need to work through and instead you resolved to using substances and sadism instead of working through them.
And this other person loves you and doesn't understand why you're saying these things.
Should you be very clean in that context?!
Sounds like you tried to bring the worst out of someone who actually cares for you, by hurting them, and then are trying to play victim.
There's a reason why the therapist is saying they're both toxic. Depp is not clean, and is abusive. Both emotionally and physically.
Exactly! Perfectly stated.
@@samf.s.7731 Why didn't either one just walk away and wipe their hands of it. It's pathetic and makes both of them seem insecure. Ick all around.
She wanted him to be underneath him for the rest of her life. He wouldn't go there so she beat him for it.
@@forrestgreene1139 leaving is the most dangerous time when abuse is occurring. It’s very rare someone gets to just leave and wipe their hands of an abusive situation when someone who wants power and control is involved.
I actually bodyguarded for Johnny Depp and Traci Lords when they were making "Cry Baby" in Baltimore. The setting for the High School was actually my girlfriend's (at the time) daughter's middle school, as a convenient coincidence. The other shooting locations were nearly as convenient.
Easy money, as NO ONE was going to try to attack JD nor TL in those conditions.
I was no fan of Johnny Depp at the time. I was no fan of "21 jump Street". Traci Lords was a total sweetheart!
I have subsequently become a huge fan of Johnny Depp. I think he is an amazing, albeit very quirky, actor.
Isn't that a Waters movie?
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq You know it!
Cry Baby is my fav Depp movie.☺️
21 jump street?
Can you share with us any stories or special memories you have of Johnny during that time?
Thank you! Very refreshing to hear a calm and unbiased voice on this subject. And love that subtle humour of yours. Always appreciate a channel that can coax a smile and a laugh.
I'm very annoyed with the comments about "oh well he had addiction issues" like an addict could never be abused or would ALWAYS be the abuser.
Many addicts will actually stay in abuse situations because they have low self-esteem and will justify other's negative behaviors towards them. Throw a narcissist in there and they become an easy target to someone who preys on emotions and vulnerabilities. They can easily be gaslit & manipulated because of their altered states. I was in active addiction for over a decade and a lot of people (mostly other addicts, but some non-users) took advantage of me and others in the same situation. I've met a lot of violent and abusive addicts/drunks, yes, but I've also met many more who never fought back and let people steamroll right over them. It's just not a great argument to say that drugs or alcohol make people violent- they may make inherently angry and violent people more likely to lash out, but those people had these tendencies already.
@@meagana8218 I'm a recovering addict too and my biggest abuser would use that against me, gaslight, lie and manipulate me and then he'd say "you're an addict, you're just trying to manipulate people when you tell them I abuse you" and similar things.
@@meagana8218 And he WASN'T an addict, that's how he'd get away with convincing people I was in the wrong. She's an ADDICT she's HAS to be manipulating you, she HAS to be lying. Even other people who'd been abused by him, like his parents who's door he kicked in, held a knife to his mom's throat, all kinds of stuff, but he'd make them believe it was MY fault he acted like that (well the knife thing happened before me, but he blamed that on some one else too)
There are so many people I know who were abused as addicts and never fought back, yes there are violent addicts but as you said those people are usually already violent and the drugs bring that out more, or even if only drugs bring it out they have a history of it, Depp has no one else saying that they abused them
@@zuglymonster I believe that if JD ever struck her or yelled abuse at her, it was either in self defense or he had been cornered and pushed beyond his limits. Narcs can make the most docile person break if they corner them and bludgeon them emotionally for long enough. I don't believe Johnny is an abusive person and I don't believe he ever started these fights. The fact that this case has come down to "yeah. She hit him, she perjured herself by lying and saying it only happened one time but so what; here's a smidge of evidence that he MAY have fought back on one or two occasions. He MUST be an abuser/He has substance abuse issues so he MUST be an abuser" is just ridiculous. As if she isn't an addict herself? And abuse victims can't have bad days? He could hardly get away from her! I also wanted to say that even though I don't know you, I'm proud of you & your recovery. It's one of the hardest things us addicts will ever get through and it's a never ending battle. And just because someone is an addict doesn't mean they're a bad person or deserve to be abused. I hope that society is getting to a place where people on the outside can finally understand that.
It's a defamation case, it's all about establishing simplistic and reductive narratives on moral character, and resorting to moral stereotypes and common prejudices to do so. The stigma against addicts is very effective.
Heard is an unheard of drama queen. WE know that Johnny Depp was in an extensive relationship with Vanessa Paradis with whom he has children, and were even not officially married. When he decided to leave the marriage he just went off, she was never caught off-guard to say a bad thing about him, the press even were inquiring whether or not he was abusive, she always denied and kept even after his desertion to a younger and more famous woman, her gratitude and warm feelings for him, unconditional support and protected his good name. This one who was only a year in a mistaken marriage with the Man, is tarnishing in a vicious way his reputation in a deliberate malevolent, malintended manner, he has already incurred ruining financial losses and invalidating blows in his professional carrier because of her constant, never ending vicious attacks
Amber just got mad that he filed for divorce and so selfish of her to ruin his reputation and his kids
Abusers don't abuse everyone. He was addicted to pills & alcohol during their marriage. His mother was extremely abusive. Because Amber is obviously Borderline her personality had a different effect on him obviously than the other women he was involved with. Their was mutual abuse going on and because it was behind closed doors nobody sees his toxic side, just his movie persona
Amber is the abuser even her own mother was afraid of Amber and Johnny abused drugs and Amber is the one toxic
Vanessa Paradis is a woman of class and wanted to protect her still underaged children of all this mess.
Which he clearly feels guilty about leaving.
And has resolved to kicking up his recreational drug consumption to cope...
And displaced his guilt onto his new partner.
I’ve watched most of this trial. I can’t help but feel sad for Depp. Imagine going through detox/ rehab then having those notes read aloud to the world. Even if he gave consent, it’s still unfortunate.
I know. This must be hard for him.
Having substance abuse issues is hard enough in and of itself without this being livestreamed for the world to hear.
This is a mess, I wish they'd settled out of court.
@@samf.s.7731
He wanted to keep it all out of the public eye so badly - but she demanded the big public spectacle.
He’s very private.
This is extremely hard for him.
Which makes me feel he is right - and his willingness to spill his secrets and personal life -
in order to clear his good name.
This is going to great lengths.
I don’t think a guilty party would do that….
Hopefully, justice will be granted to JD.
dont feel sorry for the old entitled drunk
Unfortunate doesn’t cover it! Imagine falsely being accused of DV (I take it you’ve listened to the tapes) which goes round the world, is on the internet forever, you’re reminded of the injustice of it all when she refers to it in public; and this said injustice impacts your children and entire family. Feel so sorry for him.
@@USAngel4u2 I think she wanted a bigger check, which he should have cut.
He won't be able to recover from this if he loses.
Yeah, I think Amber is a complete LIAR and a terminal victim. We've all heard the tapes of her and Johnny's constant "fighting" and as a woman who, not only grew up in an abusive home but was abused myself, I can tell you Amber was absolutely NOT ABUSED by Johnny. No abused woman acts the way she does or speaks to her abuser the way she did. Johnny sounded like the victim in EVERY instance I heard.
100%!!! Johny is the victim of narcissistic abuse.His mother was a narc too so he fell straight into their toxic relationship and clearly went through CPTSD. Johny is responding to Heards manipulation and gaslighting.
So agree with “terminal victim”...she believes herself to be one because of her upbringing...so sad..
I agree! A victim of abuse does NOT talk that way, she’s clearly the abuser. She was not scared of him at all. She abused him then laughed about it and mocked him. I have a lot of disdain for her.
I don’t know. I think every personality responds differently to abuse. I thought she was lying until I saw the video of Depp before he knew he was being filmed. I think being in a relationship with someone like that can bring out really ugly things just to have to fight back or defend. I was surprised when I saw the video because everyone acted like Depp was so innocent and never violent, when in the video he clearly has a violent angry rage. Just such a short video reveals how emotionally abusive Depp was and the assumedly constant abusive dynamics in general. Heard might still be lying about some things but I get the sense there was definitely a huge amount of emotional abuse and that Depp was the one with the upper hand.
This is very speculative, but I think abused people sometimes do messed up things to try to regain power or fight back and then they’re blamed for being abusive when really it was all in defense from the real abuse. Not that it excuses their behavior but often times in those relationships there’s no possibility for recourse and you just go insane if you don’t get out soon enough. I think she tried to stay too long trying to hold on.
Terminal victim is just a very ignorant way of describing someone with vulnerable narcissim or dependant personality disorder.
These people classically end up in abusive relationships.
They can be abused easily due to their self esteem issues, as well as other traits that make them more liable to domestic abuse.
Her psych history, coming from an abusive household cements that.
He has unresolved issues from previous relationships, and while I don't remember how he broke up with Winona, I remember him saying it was his fault.
Seems like he thinks he's unworthy of love, meanwhile she'd cling onto anything just to get his attention and affection (Even when her actions are sure to result in the exact opposite).
This was the definive conclusion of a relationship like this, where one partner is pathologically attached, and another is pathologically sadistic.
Pain, in excessive amounts, was probably inflicted on her because of how she was wired. And he was never going to give her what she wanted, even though he saw that it was driving her crazy. He kept doing exactly the opposite of what was going to de-escalate. Because what she needed was excessive love and attention, and what he was doing was just telling her that she's not enough, is crazy, and then playing hero by "walking away" from her after metaphorically throwing a grenade at her.
He's emotionally abusive, she's pathologically clingy, and they're both prone to physical abuse.
Again, I've said it before, it's a match made in hell.
I am relieved to hear Dr Grande talk about 2 people in an abusive relationship instead of one victim.Obviously there are more often than not a victim and an abuser but I grew up in a home where both parents were abusive towards each other and I don’t believe I have ever heard this perspective discussed which has led to many years of confusion when I reflect on my childhood.
Exactly, people who grew up watching their parents being abusive towards each other have completely different perspectives. I see a lot of people commenting on their experience of being a victim of DV and they of course have their own perspective. But people who watched their family members abusing each other know that it is usually a fault of both people. And in fact there are 2 abusers and 2 victims at the same time
"Everyone's a victim" is not true.
I'm hung up on the fact that she admitted to hitting him, was mad at his pattern of running away to de -escalate the violence and she has a pattern of relationship abuse. Before I knew all this, I believed her. Now I hope he wins.
I'm following the trial but I missed the part on her pattern of relationship abuse. Do you know who that was with?
@@skwerl81 She was arrested for DV with her ex wife, none of it has been entered as evidence. Waiting to see if it happens or not
@@amandamandamands wow, crazy!! Thanks!
The therapist got the “mutual abuse” from AMBER. She never said that in front of Johnny which means, Johnny could have never disputed or agreed about that in front of the therapist. These were once again Ambers words. Which is obviously her entire case. Her word yet no one saw anything except her abusing Johnny
Narcissists abuse behind closed doors and often the Borderline is seen as the abuser. This case seems she's an unaware Borderline reacting to his emotional and psychological abuse. He was an addict and an alcoholic. They're self centered people. He's not the great guy everyone sees in movies behind closed doors
She could have also been terrified to mention it in front of him, or more accurately scared that he "may not love her" if she does.
Very classic for a battered wife if you'd ask me.
Why are people having rabies over someone else's divorce ??
@@samf.s.7731 Except she was hardly a battered wife when she at least initiated the physical violence, abused him, talked over him at therapy sessions. And there are multiple witnesses to her appalling aggressive behaviour including her PA. You might be right. I highly doubt it.
Mutual abuse is a myth.
I don't think the trial is a waste of anyone's time. This is a successful actor's reputation & livelihood at stake. He stands to lose everything he's worked his entire life for. Why? Because a narcissistic gold-digger didn't get her way. I hope Johnny wins the lawsuit and Amber has to pay him every cent of the $50 million.
It's also for his family. His children face prejudice and harassment because of these accusations and I'm sure he carries that burden on his conscience.
@@meagana8218
I agree with you
@@glendasully I agree with everything you've said as well, just wanted to add to what you said! This trial has been very nerve-wracking so far but I'm hoping for the best! Johnny has a lot of love and support out here, no matter what happens ❤
Yes, that's where I disagree with Dr. Grande also. It goes without saying that Depp would prefer not to put himself through this, but his livelihood depends on it.
Narcissists are ends up controlling someones life, and shifting the blame to someone completely innocent by using their weaknesses like addictions, gambling or mental health as responsible and an excuse to for their behaviour.
What stands out to me the most through the whole case is how much inconsistency there's from Amber's side the stories keep getting more and more aggressive and a lot of the details contradict her previous statements and allegations so it makes you wonder what actually happened
Borderline Personality Disorder does that to you.
@leen khlifat, liars always tell elaborate stories, and as a result have to get more and more elaborate, as they are forced to explain the inconsistencies that inevitably are a result of lying. You see this often when the real perpetrator of the crime is being questioned. This happens in everyday situations too. Children often automatically do this which is why it's so important to correct our children with loving firmness. Never let them feel you won't stop loving them, let them know about forgiveness, but that to speak the truth is always vital.
I digressed, sorry, but in contrast to a liar, a person who speaks the truth usually has a far less complicated story, without lots and lots of details, and the story never changes, nor has contradictions. The liar tells a very, very detailed story, in the hope that by knowing all these " true" details, they will convince you. How often have we thought that someone must be telling the truth because they know soooo much, that is, sooo many details!
@@annabambus6572 totally agree. It's however very public!! to what degree can someone stretch a lie on a highly publicised case that's been going on for around 7 years now and still get away with it?!! And I'm not talking about a single incident they're actually too many to count with the smallest details being completely changed. I hope the jury at least notice that.
This is how narcissists work - they work to confuse and destabilise you so they can fill your head with whatever they want.
She's just trying to do it on a large scale right now, which will not work in the long run.
Too many professionals cross referencing everything.
@@mvpfocus yes jury..my bad English is my second language
Amber’s behaviour in Australia was very entitled. She breached our bio-security laws by bringing her dogs with no intention to quarantine them, as every other person must if they want to bring them here. She then wanted to take on the government. Her arrogant, disrespectful and self entitled behaviour pointed to who she is and left many Aussies cold on her …….
Agree, I am in NZ, we have very similar tough laws regarding bringing in animals, I remember this incident and her sense of entitlement at the time was very revealing. It spoke to her deep narcissism. Made me question at the time how she would behave in every day situations…
Amber HAD to bring her 2 dogs to Australia, even though she knew they’d have to be quarantined for 30 days and she’d have to pay about $5k EACH. So she and Johnny flew in a private jet with the 2 dogs, and then didn’t declare them, thinking she could bypass all that. Well, they nabbed her; she said she got “distracted.” They almost put her dogs to sleep. It came very, very close to that. She was charged with smuggling, had to pay a fine after a trial and they were asked to leave the country with the dogs and had to make an apology video. A country, where animals are different and there hasn’t been a case of dog rabies for over 100 years due to strict biosecurity. Anyone as entitled as she is, and a big liar, must be extremely high maintenance and an absolute nightmare to be around on a regular basis.
I believe the court of public opinion is overwhelmingly pro Johnny, myself included. The problem is the legal system. Amber is like an expert at being the bully victim. The legal system has a very difficult time dealing with the complexities of a person that can be considered a bully and a victim. No winner, imo.
Women vs Men's sentences and convictions to add to that
I think the best thing Amber can do (in the4 court case I mean, because she's never going to admit she's a manipulative liar) is to get her witnesses to say "they're as bad as each other" in order to present a very unhealthy example of a marriage where both parties are abusive. I don't think Johnny Depp is abusive at all. He used to dress up as Jack Sparrow and come round kids' hospitals without any press (only a sneaky photo from staff members' phones) just to do something good for very ill children. He seems like a genuinely good guy that's caught up with a monster.
That’s why I’m glad this is not the UK and that there’s a jury. Jury is basically the public
she's not a v1ctim. She's a bully pretending to be a v1ctim - she's the DV perpetrator
@@jacquelynskye295 I think ex-girlfriends like Kate Moss would've also spoken out for him, but she's had her own bad press for drugs, which should be irrelevant anyway.
Just because someone takes drugs, it doesn't make them a bad person.
I'd take Jonny Depp on a little coke or Xanax over 99% of Hollywood celebs (in terms of morals and ethics).
I think him saying she save as good as she got is him insinuating that she fights like a man if not even worse than a man. Telling him to stay and not leave like a coward. She persistently stated that he “always” did that.
Interesting question here! Is it cowardly to walk away and not fight or is it saner to not engage?🤔
@@bthomson if the other person is engaging in a mature and sensible argument then its beneficial to stay and work out the problem. However it seems that her 'jack hammer' and frankly hysterical nature could not be reasoned with. It is nobler to walk out of a situation like that.
Exactly.
Yes, because narcissists are cowards and they always stonewall or walk away
She is going lesbian last I heard.
Shocker.
Dude has been famous for decades how come no one else accused him of domestic violence? There is a pattern with abusive or argumentative and violent people. How did he manage to hide that much trash from Drama hungry media ?
JD's take-down of Ricky Gervace was, of course, acting! But you could definitely feel how effective JD can be at put-down! When he finds his "voice" it's quite something! (I think it's very cool!)
Look at Jada Pinkett. She's been famous for decades too, now we're seeing she's a narcissist. I didn't know my mother was a covert narcissist until I was about 43 years old so everything isn't always as it seems.
Exactly. Amber heard has always been trouble. But he brought this onto himself by marrying her when he barely knew her. He was with his ex for like 10 years or so and never married her.
And they say men are the logical sex 🙄
Vanessa Paradis even came out very strongly that she was with him for decades and had 2 kids with him, but he wouldn’t kill a fly. Amber is such a liar.
@@emilyl6746 He's an idiot at actual life?...
Honestly, she is terrible because she made it sound like he is the sole person who abused her. In reality, she did too, and one could argue that she was more so of the abuser and he was defending himself more than abusing.
He didn't write op-ed, she did. Impling her innocence and his "guilt".
Idk how the courts would go, but I think this would help Johnny in some ways.
she got charged for assault for assaulting someone in 2009. the officials dropped it but it was a charge.
My ex was extremely volatile. If a woman was walking by and I happened to glance in that direction, my ex would fly into a rage accusing me of being mentally unfaithful. Her screaming could literally go on for days. When I would eventually lose my temper and say something in retaliation, she would claim I was being abusive. I legit feel like I had PTSD after that relationship ended.
And he made a tape where he tricked her to make it seem like she abused him but not vice versa.
Their therapist comes out and says they're both physically abusive.
Why is it not okay when Amber does it but okay when Depp does?
It's not okay in both situations.
He literally tried to pull what she tried to pull. Why should I forgive him but not her?!
Why should I discredit their therapist's testimony?
It's funny that people still mention that tape as means of proving that she was the one who's physically abusive and lied about it, where now it serves to prove that he was also physically abusive and was trying to trick her to make it seem like she's the only abusive one.
If you feel like she is horrible because "she lied", guess what, he tried to do *THE EXACT SAME THING*
@@freedomfries6618 Have you cheated on her? Honest answer..
Have you thought about it?
Honest answer, please!
@@samf.s.7731 no one said it was okay for him to abuse anyone. Please don't put any words in anyone's mouth. For her to make it sounds like she was the only victim here is the problem. So often, men who are victim of domestic abuse get dismissed, unheard by others and be made fun of. And so they suffer quietly and don't even report.
The recorded fights that I have heard show that Amber would hit Johnny and he would try to leave. Amber got angrier when that happened. If she hit him first and tried to make him stay, he should have the right to defend himself. If I hit someone, I should expect they may hit me back. I don't know if Johnny hit her but I do know he tried to leave when fights became physical.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim What a ridiculous name. Want people to value your opinion? Grow up.
That’s not true, he has a duty to retreat if he can. Self defence only applices to unavoidable deadly harm
@@MinaF99 What if she has him cornered, blocking the only exit? What if to retreat he has to get physical, push her maybe, to get past her? What if she waited until she knew he was drunk, so she would have that advantage over him? I can see times when a man might need to get physical just to get away and retreat.
Omg I was just going over this trial and thinking “I wish Dr. Grande would cover this case.” Well, here you are, on top of your game as always!
Thank you so very much for doing this video!💕✨💕
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@@bthomson Exactly!!😁
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@@bthomson Aww sweetie 😊😘
The therapist sounds like a failure. Amber seems like a violent narcissist. Any abuse from Johnny seems reactive which is what predators do to force a reaction out of their targets. Amber is the aggressor here and should be accountable. Johnny has tried to escape and walk away, yet she continues to be the aggressor and chase home into corners. He has clearly tried to escape via various methods. It’s called DARVO.
Okay so all judges and all therapists are wrong, because the internet is biased towards Depp.
Hmmmmmm, curious!
Watch the video from "cluster b miskshake" to it
The therapist said they both initiated abuse. I'm inclined see Amber as a little worse because she didn't make the same effort to deescalate and has a previous arrest for assaulting a a partner but it sounds like a toxic dynamic where both parties should take some responsibility.
Judges and therapists based their opinions on hearsay. There is not evidence that Johnny initiated the fighting with Amber. I do believe both should have the right to defend themselves, but my impression is that Depp is a passive man who tried to pick his battles. He also seems to take responsibility for his actions when placed in impossible situations.
@@phoebe543 Welp, she may have not made an effort to de-escalate. But it sounds like he initiates or maintains topics that she finds painful.
From what's discussed regarding her over attachment and desire to be "his one and only", seems like he really didn't wish to outwardly say that he loves her more than Winona or Vanessa.
This is an issue I personally had with a former boyfriend. He knew it hurt the crap out of me, but he would always say that he loved his ex, and never said he loved me. It's also his fault that his former relationship ended because he was very abusive to that girl who was very sweet and patient with him (I was just too blind to see it, I wanted to believe that she was the problem and not him).
So basically he abused the ex, and then used the ex to abuse me. It drove me bananas I swear.
I genuinely loved him (I have never felt a deeper regret over anything I did, but hey I forgave myself!) and his style of being with somebody revolved around beating them down in a very sadistic fashion. He would remain calm and it would seem like he was trying to de-escalate, but it was like punching someone in the gut and then pretending like it doesn't matter and that I was making a big deal out of nothing.
Seems like Amber really was desperate to be loved by JD, to have him love her in the same manner that she loved him.
She's exceptionally beautiful, and is very charming. Thing is, seems like she has abandonment issues and he has a very unhealthy relationship style.
Winona can say that he was great, but again I don't know what happened to break that relationship up. And it seems like whenever he messed up, he feels like somehow he's making it up to the people he hurt by acknowledging that he messed up to his subsequent partner (I guess it's guilt from moving on, problem is, those relationships are not about him). But imagine hearing that from someone you love, that the person they were with before you is the one they truly loved, and if they didn't ***k it up with them, then there was no way they would be with you. Like, why are you with me then? Go try to get that person back! Or is your ego so big that you'd rather torture yourself and me for mistakes that you made but your toxic masculinity wouldn't let you really try to fix?!
Hearing that you're the one they settled for, even though there are people out there willing to step in front of a bus for you, while you are the kind of person who would step in front of a bus for them. Again, how gutting would that be?
She may have abandonment issues, but he doesn't know how to relationship, and it's cruel.
Edit: I actually thought their marriage was a sham PR stunt. No this was the real deal, they just have a lot of baggage.
And imo, Depp is the more ***ked up out of the two. She just wanted him to love her, ironically even when they fought.
Meanwhile, he was getting high and not working through his problems.
I think the age discrepancy played a huge role there, Depp has had very serious relationships before that lasted long and failed; which he didn't seek therapy for after they ended (to my knowledge) but instead just became dependent on substances. Amber, was just too blind to see it.
It is painful to watch this toxic relationship being played out,[ and judged ] in the public square..
Dear Dr G. A great checked shirt - totally appropriate for this checkered pair of not so star crossed lovers. Moral of the story is make haste slowly and don't get led by your genitals but get to know the person for at least a year - moving forward slowly. Your objective analysis and explanation of the therapist's session notes, is very appreciated and clear. Many thanks.
I can’t clinically diagnose anyone, but in my opinion based on the evidence I’ve read and seen, Heard is the evil, narcissistic, abusive one in this relationship. She proves that being pretty isn’t the most important thing.
Johnny isn't bad either
DANG YOU WOMEN IN THE COMMENT SECTION.
You see right through her fake ass, salute to the moms who don't want their sons end up with women like that.
I don’t think the situation is that black and white. Johnny and Amber were a couple with a toxic relationship. Neither was a victim. Both easily had resources to walk away. And, they are STILL not walking away despite being divorced for a number of years. They would be better off moving forward with their careers than engaging in public lawsuits that bring attention to their toxicity.
I wonder how much the “aging former sex symbol” situation plays into their behavior.
@@GoodnightJLH thank you. I have BPD, dated many narcissists. It's a nightmare and that's what I see here. A Borderline and a narcissist
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I think that’s a distinct possibility. But we can’t diagnose people accurately by using the info they disseminate as public persona.
I wish this goes quickly for Johnny’s sake. He’s gone through enough with this crazy woman!
Sorry! But I agree!
such a shy, talented, friendly man, who has his own struggles. he doesn't deserve this.
It’s difficult waiting for the verdict tbh. Once you’ve listened to those tapes, how she gaslights him, how totally illogical she is… I’m surprised they made it to a year. No one should or could live with someone who treats you like that.
@kibblewibble Johnny suffered from Narcotic abuse from her!
@kibblewibble so you're saying they should be together still? Maybe he should lose another finger, oh thats right women cant abuse men in your definition cause of "power" grow up.
Very insightful Dr Grande. I've been following this case since the London case, very sad what Johnny is going through considering all the evidence that has been released thus far and what he has lost because of Amber's defamatory statements. Though it would be hard for Johnny to win this case as women are believed without evidence in claims of abuse, like Amber said, who would believe a man is being abused by a woman?
One of the security people out here in Australia said Amber would grab her suitcases, and make a scene saying she was leaving , when Johnny would ask her to come back, the security guy would have to go down to carry back up the suitcases. He said he could tell by the weight they were empty the whole time.
A manipulator who plays mind games....she is twisted
forgot about that. thanks for mentioning it.
I FOUND YOUR DIALOGUE. AND ANNALASISES. VERY INTRIGUING AND INTERESTING, you give us outsiders a glimpse into their real personalities and motives and morals! Which only a therapist gets to see! Thanks again Dr GRANDE!! 😊
If someone slapped me and denied it... I wouldn't marry that person. Jus how I roll.
Shitting in the bed was Johnny’s limit.
I think she was the one guilty of abuse
The therapist was as useless as the G in lasagna during their sessions. She didn't keep proper notes, she didn't know who came in when and clearly she didn't help either of them to the level of being non toxic.
G in lasagna 🤣
A therapist isn't supposed to counsel a couple with DV in the first place !!
she did four important things imo. She said that 1-Amber STARTED fights if she felt disrespected 2-johnny had no voice in therapy and that amber would talk over him like a jackhammer and 3-that Amber asked her about whether she should call the police to get the upperhand in a divorce 4- Also one more thing i'm not sure if this is good or not good for Johnny (because it's not true) but the media has picked it up saying that it was 'mutual vi0lence'. Before it was only 'Johnny is ENTIRELY guilty'. So the mainstream media needle has moved from Amber is an innocent-babe-in-the-woods to something that's not quite so innocent and not quite so pure and angelic.
i do agree with you on some points like the G is useless and maybe her notes could be better. :) but i'm going to suggest that the therapist thought she was brought in for actual couples counselling and didn't realize it was to create contemporaneous evidence for Amber to use in a divorce. She's not an investigator and wouldn't be able to determine that Amber would show off faked bruises or faked photos. She believed Amber wanted to fix the marriage when Amber was only looking to get the best divorce settlement from her cash cow and DV v1ctim.
I am a survivor of DA and SA. When I see someone perpetuating the “crying wolf” excuse to not believe and support victims I become extremely angry.
Too many people use cases like these to show how women (men too) can lie about abuse so, we can not trust someone else’s experience. When I think back to how little support I got when I came out, I almost feel this hurt more than the abuse itself.
It keeps future victims silent and even more opportunities for abuse occur bc these abusers go without punishment. We have a hard time being validated by society and Amber didn’t help.
Completely agree. She's harming the people that need to be believed and supported
Ironic
Exactly ! This is the real tragedy. Sending you much love and healing vibes. 💫💜💫
Just like Smollett
It's INSANE, sometimes it seems to me that the only victims of abuse that get BELIEVED are the ones who are lying.
I think it is important to know that during the testimony of Johnnys therapist the following day, he lied to the therapist and said he cut his finger tip-off, and took responsibility for Ambers's behaviour. We know this was not true, witnesses confirmed that Amber cut his finger tip off with a bottle. . Given this, any projection of the abuse being mutual conflict should not be taken seriously. We know that victims are manipulated by the abuser into thinking that they elicited the abuse and "deserve it". There is NO history of Johnny engaging in physical violence with anybody at any point in time. We have multiple people conferring that Amber is physically abusive. Even her assistant was manipulated into working for nothing, and tolerated physical and verbal abuse and never participated in it. It seemed very obvious to me that Amber had engaged in manipulative behaviour with the therapist by painting a picture of this being a case of mutual abuse. She seemed very aware of how the therapy could play out in her divorce and asked the therapist specific questions about how this would all play out in her divorce. For the first time, I have to say I'm disappointed with your take on this situation.
it seems therapists naturally tend to back the female side.
This appears to be the definition of a toxic relationship. I believe it started to go downhill swiftly during their trip here to Australia. This was coupled with the whole fiasco over them sneaking their dogs in. I'd love to hear your analysis of their "apology video". Here we joke it looked more like a hostage video. Keep the great videos coming Dr Grande! And Happy Easter! 🐰
Johnny was already in Australia filming a Pirate of the Caribbean. It was Amber that snuck the dogs in. It was her that forced him to make that apology video.
@@amaiyagrace true! Johnny wasn't even aware what happened until the authorities got involved.
It was Amber that smuggled in the dogs!!! She’s the one facing perjury charges in Australia. Please check the facts, don’t believe the media.
It was AH who illegally brought the dogs in to Australia, JD was already in Australia and not involved, in fact it has been reported that he specifically said he did not want her to bring the dogs. Being the gentleman he is JD assisted Amber by sharing the blame with her publicly.
@@shiinichie4013 Johnny was filming the POTC movie when she showed up with the dogs. Someone stupidly took the dogs to a groomer and bragged it was Johnny Depp's dogs. The person grooming the dogs took pictures of the dogs and posted them online. That's how she was caught. She was held criminally liable but mildly. They never went after Johnny. He paid for the jet to bring them back to America. All the paperwork is in Amber's name it doesn't say Johnny's name on top of both the assistants testimonies. He was forced into that video. Australia found out she lied and now wants to get her for perjury 6 years later and if she goes to Australia she will more than likely be jailed and most movies are filmed in Australia. Australia HATES her. She recently got a dog and named it after Barnaby Joyce.The guy who threatened to put the dogs to sleep if they weren't removed ASAP. Australia and the FBI are currently looking at getting her for perjury of the dogs. Johnny has never been criminally held responsible. He is just associated because of her being his wife and his dogs. And then the video.
It sounds very similar to my marriage therapy. My ex talked the whole time and I barely got a word out.
Your counselor should have interrupted partner and asked you to speak.
The therapist only said what she heard from Amber, and Johnny wasn’t even present to defend himself!
Btw, not that it’s likely, but why wouldn’t it be possible that Hollywood therapist has anything to gain from being partial? I know that’s happened before, so it’s possible l. Anything’s possible until it’s disproven. Not saying it’s the case here, but to conclude impartiality is always 100% true when it comes to therapists is just not true.
The facts of this case will speak for themselves and they will show the world Amber is the abuser, and the liar.
I'm curious what it means when Amber keeps wearing items that Johnny wore the previous day in court. Beyond the obvious general thoughts that she's nuts.
Sometimes I think victims of abuse end up subconsciously seeking and creating toxic and abusive relationships as adults. It goes back to Freud's theories on how our desires in a relationship reflect our childhood experiences as that brings us comfort in our adult lives.
This could explain why two people who experienced bad childhoods often result in a bad romance.
It's called codependency, which is very common in unhealthy relationships.
The difference is that Amber is a codependent narcissist. Depp is also codependent, but does not appear to have a toxic cluster b personality disorder like Amber does.
This is also a good example of how not all people with an unhealthy childhood turn out to be intentionally abusive, but rather people who react to those who are doing the provoking.
Narcissists are notorious for provoking people on purpose until the victim ends up reacting to the aggressor, so the aggressor can find a way to flip the blame around and onto the victim. Rinse and repeat.
That therapist had only Amber's word of everything that supposedly took place. She saw for herself how Amber was concerning JD. I would like to know what JD told the therapist.
They might be mutually abusing, but while he left her go, she kept abusing him and destroying his life to this day. She can't let him live his own life.
He himself brought all these awful details to the court and public…. She never mentioned his name!!!
She didn’t need to, she was purposely not mentioning his name while purposely alluding to him, than all the media jumped on it, not once did she come out to refute what the media was speculating, listen to the audio, she admitted to hitting him. She was the abuser.
WE don't have evidence of him abusing her only Amber abusing Johny and many other people. We actualy have evidence of Johny NOT abusing her
Oh Dr Grande I needed this right now! Your voice, the topic, everything. Thank you!
Johnny said there had been "violence" and "she gave as good as she got". Having extensively read and covered the whole thing ( I mean all the court documents from Uk which was a crazy farce in that the judge decided to avoid all evidence and just decide Ms Heard was right) and much much more ; I have the following comments to make. I think he was actually trying to cover for Amber and protect her when he said there had been violence. I think 99% of it came from her. I honestly think she is borderline and narcissistic. I can imagine myself saying what he said having somehow got wrapped up in a toxic situation with someone. She worked on him to get him and rushed him into a mariage. She is outwardly beautiful and I believe is the kind of person who is appealing at first; but as you get to know them the craziness comes out. I am not saying Johnny is a saint. My reckoning is that he possibly slapped her once ; but to be honest she was constantly provoking him. The hostage situation and all of that have been shown to be total make believe. There are tapes of the situation. She had thrown a bottle at Johnny and cut his finger off. They had to find it to put it back on. It was Johnny who had to go to hospital and Amber though having claimed all sorts of abuse had no injuries. She has continually added to her stories of abuse with the latest thing being that there was also s*****l abused byJohnny. She claimed in many television appearances that it was not about money and she had donated all of her divorce settlement to two charities. This has since been proved not to be true. She never made a donation. The only donation they had was the first one that Johnny made before she asked for the money directly from him so she could donate but she never did. There is a lot more to this; she's a real piece of work. I agree that it is airing their dirty laundry. I think Johhny was seduced by her and it only evolved after some time what a narcissist she was. He actually said in the end that he realised that she was "never a real person". I have had the same traumatising experience myself but from a much younger age. I think he was manipulated by a borderline narcissist. He really loved the person he thought he had met and then to realise it was all unreal and that was not her ; that she just "an act"; I can relate to that, so I have sympathy for him. Whether the court case will work for him i'm not sure but this is evidence of how a borderline narcissist can wreck numerous lives and careers.
Totally agree. She's Borderline. He is the narcissist. You cannot photograph psychological and emotional abuse she suffered from him. I've been in this relationship dynamic more than once. Both I wish would just walk the f*ck away already..
i think it was verbal because amber was the only one mentioning DV when johnny wasn't around
AH is a nasty narcissist, JD likes hot women and can’t walk away from one who laid him like for tile for 6 months.
I hope he gives his winnings to the charities she pledged too that would be ultimate karma he will clear his name and be able to work again
@@psj8491 Not to the ACLU who was involved in the false accusations with her but to CHLA i wholeheartedly agree!
Im 100% pro JD.. nd shes a vile human, who has lied and doesn't care that she tried to destroy him.
Funny how Amber looks at the camera with big , intense eyes , she’s an actress alright.
Couples and individual therapy. I fell for that once. I really hadn't realized how my husband was so thoroughly manipulating the therapist and always I was at a disadvantage. It's been over thirty years since the divorce and sometimes I still marvel at how dumb I was and what a sap that therapist was.
You'd think the therapist would be smart enough to figure that out, but it seems like they don't. How can someone not as smart as the clients actually be able to help them?
30 years ago, no one was talking about narcissism & my narcissistic boyfriend back then charmed my therapist into taking sides with him especially since I wasn’t as articulate & was more hurt & emotional in my responses. Now, I look back and realize I had a narcissistic mother & was imprinted with certain behaviors which I thought were “normal” but they were not & I was attracted to men who had those qualities (and abusive bosses as well). I also turned to alcohol to numb myself out from all the hurt inside me. Now, I look back & marvel at how I walked away from that relationship despite him begging me to come back & despite the fact that I still loved him. But I knew we were toxic. He was toxic. And I also marvel that I now have 22 years of sobriety & and am able to identify my character defects as well as others’
The genius of Johnny Depp is his natural ability to study a personality and become that personality. I think he was sucked into a toxic personality. Seen it happen to a lot of people who seem to change for the better after a breakup with a toxic person.
Amber is definitely a narcissist.
Like the couple in Montecristo?
Agree. I think I was 1/2 way through Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (watched it on HBO or something) before I realized it was Johnny Depp! I knew it was based on Hunter S Thomson’s book but I thought it was another actor I didn’t know!😂
She is Borderline and brought out his toxic side. Can't photograph psychological and emotional abuse
I appreciate how dr. Grande always explains situations in simple terms but without making me feel stupid or like he thinks I’m stupid.
Hope you have a wonderful Easter, Dr. G! 🐣💕
Not impressed with the therapist at all; at the beginning of her testimony, she said, that she would mix, and write down the wrong subject noun? are you kidding me, so in one session it may have been that Amber said that she was hitting JD, but because she would "mixed" the pronouns ( she/he) the therapist wrote down HE was hitting. Did think she was very unprofessional.
OMG very very good point and i forgot that - but remember i didn't like when she said that at the time. i'm going to re-evaluate my opinion of this therapist. this makes me very suspicious. it's not a common error and it's not something a professional would easily admit too. If you did make the mistake you would point it out at a specific part if someone called it out and it was incorrect but you wouldn't suggest at a deposition 'oh i make gender switches all the time in my notes' for a trial viewed worldwide. amber tried that EXACT same excuse with nurse court statements. She said the medical professional meant 'he' instead of 'she'. Something about 'she suffers anxiety' - Amber said it was Johnny who suffered that. What would be the chances that her chosen therapist says she does the same thing with he and she..
imo This might be a payoff involved. Amber uses that excuse with professional testimony and now her therapist says she makes gender swaps in her notes OFTEN.
and there's something else. the words that are attributed to Johnny about him 'giving as good as he got'. And the therapist not writing down any more details or following up on that statement. To me that really sounds like Ambers words and ideas - not johnny's. She was saying things like 'it's a fair fight', 'i didn't deck you' and other stuff to him implying he was able to defend himself from her attacks. Maybe she asked for the therapist to ADD this to her testimony as well as admitting to gender swaps. Just imo
She ruined his life and I knew from the beginning she was lying. I have loved Johnny since he was on Nightmare on Elm Street and 21 Jump Street. What she described is just not him, as is evidenced by the trial witnesses, including family. She is a liar and a narcissist. Johnny Forever 💜💜💜
I sense this is Amber’s psychopathology of abandonment. The more this lingers, the more clear it becomes that Heard has been heard.
Over and over again.
Vulnerable narcissist probably, those people often end up in abusive relationships because they really want to be loved.
It's hilarious that everyone has been calling her a narcissist, but missed out on how this can be abused by a sadistic partner with unresolved issues from previous relationships.
This is how it's coming off from what we're hearing now. I think this actually surprisingly makes her case better.
It does prove that she's flawed, but in a manner where she can be taken advantage of. Her behavior is due to a desperate need for love and attention, to the point where she'd keep fights with him just to keep him engaged with her.
With him, it does not sound like de-escalation anymore, it sounds like sadism, where he says something hurtful or initiates a fight, and after seeing how much in pain she is and that he did get a rise out of her, he'd walk away because "mission accomplished". Doesn't matter that he's calm, that actually makes it seem more sociopathic and deliberate.
I don't think people ever considered that, but it honestly sounds more like a classic "battered wife" situation now. If he hadn't used substances I would have been more inclined to reconsider, but that's the thing about substance use, it can turn you into a really bad person.
I don't think that's how he normally is, but he definitely has baggage that he needed to work through before marrying a woman who's so vulnerable she'd do anything to get his attention (Even when her efforts seem to clearly result in the opposite effect, or maybe the desired effect if hurting her was what he really wanted, consciously or subconsciously).
@@samf.s.7731 unbelievable.....your notions are reversed...she is by far the unbalanced one. Do you know what it is like to deal with unbalanced ppl ???? it's like your running uphill all the time.
Informative video, Dr. Grande! I did not realize that couples in therapy did not go when things got better and I learned alot from this video. Thank you!
Thanks for giving a fair, balanced analysis of this, Dr. Grande. People in support of either side seem to enjoy playing dumb when it comes to the negatives of the opposition.
I listened to a reporter interview another reporter who is attending the trial. It sounds like there's a lot of alcohol abuse involved between the couple. So far JD has had good witnesses come forward with accounts. ie, JD's sister who said their mother was abusive and JD dealt with the mothers abuse by taking flight. It also sounds like JD has financial problems. It's a circus. AH claims she still feels love for JD. His behavior in the court room is stoic, she's more eye contact and smiles towards those in the court room. Both are putting on their best acting skills. it's too early in the trial to see where it's going.
she never loved him - but she did love his wallet. When they first started dating she said he was a fat old man to her assistant. Another witness said she saw amber attack him and called him a fat old man. and jerry judge (security) told his sister that she called him a fat old man. It wasn't a joke, it wasn't funny - but it was how she felt about him. There was no love from her side :(
If you’re a bloke like me whose worried about being single. Look at Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp, they could probably get any woman they want but they’re both divorced. I guess relationships really are a roulette wheel
What an interesting way to look at this. The therapist's point of view is one I haven't considered before. All I can say is I'm glad that's not my career choice. I'm grateful some are equipped to do it. Just glad it's not me. 😊
I think your analysis of these two is spot on. How you are able to make your analysis so fair and not done with any bias is always amazing to me. Thanks again for the humor as well as the analysis.
Saying both sides are wrong is not neutral.
Well, I guess we have new champions for the ‘Sid and Nancy Couple of the Millennium’ award!
I agree with Dr. Grande 100%. I believe that using the therapy notes as evidence in a trial was very unprofessional. Another excellent situation analysis by Dr. Grande!
What you say makes sense. Dr. Grande. However, Johnny Depp's career did suffer greatly as a result of Amber's op-ed. He was dismissed by Disney. So, at the risk of looking bad in the public eye, should he just take a back seat and not try to get justice for himself? To restore his reputation in his industry and recover some of his losses? I think you're wrong there. Also, I disagree that both parties were equally abusive. I think Amber Heard initiated most of the altercations and then cried wolf if Johnny defended himself. She also exaggerated and even fabricated his part in their physical battles. I feel this was deliberate on her part. Her intent was malicious and the desired result is definitely to damage her ex-husband's reputation. It's called revenge. Amber thought she could exact revenge with impunity. I watched her deposition of 2016 and have to say that she came through as a lying freak. As a victim of domestic violence myself, I could tell that she was acting a part. When you're abused, there is no way you can keep calm while describing abusive episodes. Amber did it like she was narrating a story of third parties. It was eerie to me and actually quite frightening. I believe the victim here is Johnny Depp. I hate to say it because I know that there are more abused women than men, but, yes, men can be victims of abuse, too. And, unfortunately, the scales tips heavily on the side of women when it comes to physical violence, so anything Amber says will be taken seriously while Johnny's would tend to be downplayed by virtue of his superior strength.
Exactly
Thank you for this, I completely agree and I wish Dr Grande did a more thorough research
@@hindalmaeeni8088 i think his research is adequate. There is no way that johnny Depp is completely scotch free, but i do believe that amber heard was more abusive than johnny Depp.
I have been following this case thoroughly! I feel so bad for Johnny, he has been totally traumatized by this evil BPD and NDP woman! The case is strong in Johnny’s favor. Thank god.
I did not see a playlist for this case, though that would be nice. Thanks Dr. Grande, for all the hard work you do for us. My life has drastically improved by watching your videos (in combination with many similar resources out there and counseling). I’ve shared your videos with friends and will continue to do so!
If I had only watched this one video, I’ve gained an understanding of a prior experience with counseling that my subscription to this channel is now worth a lot more to me. Thank you, Dr. Grande!
"I wouldn't expect to see the hostage situation descriptor until the couple had been married at least 8 or 10 years " 😄👍👍Very good Dr. Grande!
The channel Incredibly Average has recordings of JD & AH I found interesting. They both use drugs and drink. Women from JD's past and people he's known have nothing but good things to say about him. She was charged in the past with domestic abuse. The 911 call when she claims to have been abused sounded like a lady ordering pizza. Anyone who's been trapped in a marriage with a Narcissist sees clearly what's going on.
Reflecting what you said about Amber, and switching it round...if Johnny is partiality responsible then can he be the victim? I see how you missed saying that the therapist said, Amber admitted to hitting first. There's also the fact that DV can be just verbal. There's only one person who ended up in hospital, and no convincing photographic evidence of actual damage to Amber. If she could photograph the shower screens and the mirror, then she could photograph her injuries.
Have you heard of psychological/emotional abuse? That's Johnny
@@reneegardner2286 Have I heard of emotional abuse? Or Dr Grande? I have been through emotional abuse myself, so yes. I've dealt with a partner who pushed every button, I got frustrated and yelled at him, so in theory I'm as bad. Shouting is abusive. He was very quiet, manipulative and gaslighted me constantly. Oh he hit as well. But I was told that we were as bad as eachother. He punched my stomach with both my pregnancies. Oh yes, I know what abuse is. My ex had a history of it from childhood. He would gaslight his parents, his siblings and his friends, none of them were passionately supportive like Isaac or Johnny's sister. With Johnny there's no history of abusive behaviour. With Amber there is history, her mother, her sister, her ex. She also tries to triangulate people, Jason Mamoa, Kevin Costner etc. I'm not a big fan of Johnny, and I thought him dreadful for beating his wife, until the words coming out of Amber's mouth convinced me that it's her. You, I assume, are fortunate enough not to be a DV victim, or you'd know better.
@@TM-tx9ct Ok, me too. I have B.P.D. and have dated several narcissists. Dealt with physical, emotional, sexual, financial, verbal, and psychological abuse. I also had reactive abuse. They BOTH have alot of mental health issues and I see it as a Borderline and a narcissist. He sits back cool and calm while she explodes looking like the perpetrator
@@reneegardner2286 ok, listen to the 2 hours recording they have. If he was like you say, then nobody would support him.
@@TM-tx9ct I've dated narcissists. You dont know what was happening before these recordings began
Brilliant analysis Dr. G! I learned so much from your insights, your experience and knowledge of human behavior is awesome! I appreciate the way you explain your thoughts so concisely!
Me too! In a world full of media bias, its refreshing to hear a relatively objective perspective on trials that is nuanced and detailed.
Thanks again 😃Dr Grande for another in depth insightful analysis..I go back & watch all of your past videos, and alwYs look forward to your charming wit with every new upload!
Word of advice… if you’re in a relationship that’s abusive with a person who’s well liked and has lots of loyalty from friends and family… GTFO RIGHT NOW… you will never win trying to convince these people that the person they love and adore is capable of abuse and those people can’t change their abusive behaviors anyways. Years of abuse can anxiety and that anxiety can cause you to get frustrated and angry… it’s hard to control these feelings, abusers know how to act in front of people… there’s a reason they’ve been able to get away with this behavior for a long period of time.
You are sooo right!
That's the takeaway.
Yep, GTFO indeed.
and sometimes the victim is so broken they can barely express themself. apparently she was overbearing w jackhammer speech, he became overwhelmed. that's not even a friend, let alone a romantic partner
@@chloeswigs3680 jackhammer speech? I would google that (or pressured speech)… people with anxiety and bipolar tend to use that type of speech when they’re feeling anxiety or possible going through a manic episode, it’s like they have to get all the things in their head out before anyone interrupts them. Sometimes people need real help, not a marriage counselor or therapist who’s goal is to fix a broken marriage that’s well beyond repair. When you are with a person who has used his cool calm demeanor to win people over for years…. It will feel like literal torture. When people are suffering, in fear, a constant state of anxiety… they don’t know how to control their behaviors around people… but the abuser usually does, it’s a no win situation. Thank god I’m not married but there is a reason I do not like marriage counselors…. they will always take the side of the calm one, the one who wants to keep the relationship together… without wondering “hmmm for a couple that fights a lot and has a lot of real issues… it’s kinda funny how he’s soooo calm and nice around me and never shows anger”… it’s called manipulation.
I absolutely loved this! Thank you!
13:20 In any relationship both partners are partially responsible. If what Dr. Todd Grande said here were true, there would never be anyone who could claim DV of any gender. Everyone has the ability to leave if not at the time than after the very first incident. Just to be clear this is a one-way copout that he would never use on a female claiming DV. It allows him to say that in the case of a male being abused he is still responsible for the abuse. I wonder how many times Dr. Todd Grande has not used this line of 'reasoning' with male victims of female perpetrators and how many times he has used it with female victims of male perpetrators. He is arguing because JD isn't absolutely perfect, he on some level deserves to be abused.
To be clear no one deserves to be abused even if on some level they are partially responsible for not removing themselves from the situation. If your relationships with one person is harming yourself or others, it is time to LEAVE IT! It is difficult to recognize sometimes, and no one is perfect. Doctors in the mental health professions should not be looking for ways to blame people who find themselves in such a situation. That is another abusive situation and no amount of credentials excuses it.
I'm so happy you're covering this!
great analysis, especially on the role of therapist and how cancelling/not working through issues during good times keeps healing from happening.
To my mind, the most critical factor is that Johnny Depp's ex-wives came forward to say that he hadn't been abusive with them. I give that a high weight, because domestic abuse is usually a recurring pattern over the adult lifetime, not something that spontaneously emerges in middle age. In contrast, Amber Heard *has* been previously arrested for domestic violence in a prior relationship. This leads me to think that she's the prime driver of the toxicity in the relationship.
Do you think Amber Heard could have Borderline Personality Disorder? Her intense fear of abandonment makes me wonder, because in that previously released audio of a discussion between them included a time Heard went ballistic because of Johnny Depp wanting to spend a few hours with a male friend without Heard being there. I'm not a psychologist, but that seems over-controlling. I suspect that if you did a Duluth Power and Control Wheel with each of them, Heard would be the one pinging a lot more categories than Depp.
@@GiselleKlara Amber started fights with him to make him late and sabotage his projects
You missed the part where AH asked if she'd gain advantage by claiming DV when in individual session.
You can’t expect change if you keep repeating the same behavior. It’s so true and I’ve heard it many times.Your excellence is showing today Doc! Thanks 😊
Dr. Grande is speaking into BPD ( Borderline Personality Disorder) when talking about her desire to fight, rather than face abandonment.
Lying like swelling is the hardest thing to cover up more than bruises.
After listening to recordings, Depp comes out looking far better.