Little known fact: In a deleted scene, Cornelius uses the pickaxe to find a peppermint mine, and licking the axe is his way to find the peppermint. The biggest sin here is cutting out that scene and LEAVING IN THE PART WHERE HE LICKS THE PICKAXE. It goes from weird to just plain creepy.
Here is that scene: th-cam.com/video/RVOkBrfKADs/w-d-xo.html The first time the special aired it had this scene, but the Misfit Toys weren't given new homes in this version. People wrote in and complained, so a new ending was filmed with the Misfit Toys being delivered, and the peppermint mine scene was deleted to make room for it.
@@taker1z Saw that a few days ago on Freefom as well. Since I knew about the deleted scene, the first thought that came into my head was basically "Finally!"
I think you missed the biggest sin, at the end when the elf is throwing the toys out with umbrellas, he doesn't give one to the bird. The bird that can't fly, but swims.😳
The dentist Elf is actually theorized to be human because he has round ears and not pointy ones, which would explain his lack of toy skills and said interest in toy making. So you can sin the fact that Santa has added kidnapping to his Christmas List.
Maybe he's only half elf, Santa may have been involved with one of the pink elves....I mean it's not out of the question lol like not trying to ruin childhoods here!
"The kids will be disappointed with a skinny Santa!" Um... the kids don't actually SEE Santa, because he drops the toys via umbrella into their houses. Not to even mention that they're all supposed to be asleep.
Unfortunately, the least stupid Rudolph special is the 1948 one, which is basically just a music video. Also, you missed a sin. The elf throwing toys out of the sleigh doesn't give the bird an umbrella because birds can fly, but this bird would still need one because he said in the song that he swims instead of flies. That part's always bothered me.
I feel they made a dark adult show, and wrapped it in a thin layer of children’s show. You look too closely at anything and the whole movie takes some very dark twists. Non-elf eared, Hermes has blonde hair. Mrs Claus is a brunette. That’s Santa’s love child he’s hiding from the mrs by disguising him as an elf. But she knows. She’s pushing real hard to convince Santa he needs to fatten up. “For the kids”. More like “so you don’t go knocking up some Vegas resident on the 25th, again, when going house to house with your brown nosed reindeer.”
And here's another sin that I forgot to say about. Why is Santa Claus a complete dkhead in this? Santa is supposed to be jolly and merry. Did they make him that way because he's old? Or they did that, because they're the dkheads.
@@Dragonrider1227 my family watches Rudolph every Christmas Eve. Every single year we debate over what might be wrong with this stupid doll. This year I came up with a potential answer: she's too loud. She's the only female toy seen or heard on the island individually, but yet when the entire chorus is heard as a group it sounds about half male and half female. So I've decided her defect is that she just sings ridiculously loudly, lol.
Ah, yes. The beloved Christmas tale that teaches us that people who are different are only useful if that which makes them different can be exploited. EDIT: OK, seriously. Can you people stop making cracks about my grammar now?
0:56 Mrs. Claus is by far the most terrifying version of the “Grandma/mother/spouse who sets a gigantic plate of food in front of you and sends you a smile that says “You will eat every morsel, and you will not disappoint me by leaving even a crumb on this plate”
There's a really hated film called "The Christmas That Almost Wasn't" that goes in another direction. Mrs. Claus has a habit of cutting down Santa and almost every other male in the story, till you want to call it male-bashing.
Everyone always portrays the nose as light up. But it’s not light up. It’s shiny, like polished metal, it’s reflective. So it reflects light, and therefore would be useless on a foggy night.
If he was fired for being different, this might make sense, however he is fired for not doing his job, then hired back when he proves he actually can do his job. That’s called work ethic
Freshman year in college they set up a Christmas thing for us right before break where they showed all these on the big screen since we couldn't go out and drink, and of course we all showed up drunk. It devolved quickly into something like this as we realized how horrible this thing actually was for the first time (Santa's an ass, Donner's an ass, etc.), and our childhood psyches were also destroyed. But luckily we didn't care, cause you know drunk.
When I was old enough to finally understand how sexist “No woman, this is man’s judgment” I was too shocked to be offended, it was just funny by that point.
Wait, wait! There's one sin you missed. This special was released in 1964, and the roman numeral, which said "MCLXIV", means 1164. That means that someone forgot to put the second M between the C and L.
I feel like the entire show was an intentional f-u to the boss who made their employees produce a kids show about “Santa, reindeer, toys, and shit”. “And give it some action scenes with a monster they have to fight or something. Get it to me in 3 days. I don’t care if you have to sleep under your desk - get it done.”
Santa basically saying he didn’t want Rudolph on his team if his nose didn’t look normal was not only crushing to see as a kid but also the opposite of what you want to see in Santa. “Santa hates freaks.”
My sin is Rudolph was already fully functionally useful before his red nose ever became exploitable. It's not like it weakened him physically, or slowed his airspeed or altitude, or made him dumb, or any of that crap. So the lesson is, he had to prove himself *exceptional* just to be *accepted*. If he just had a weird colored nose, that prodouced no additional light, he would've stayed ostracized indefinitely because he was different, and that difference, while not harming his performance in any way, also didn't help anyone. And the movie expects us to be okay with that, and I am NOT okay with that!
That Bumble might be toothless, but it is still twice the height of a man, and still has enormous claws. Not only is it still a threat, but it should be pissed.
I wanted to take a moment to offer up some relevant perspective. I'm legally blind and have other disabilities. The story of Rudolph ever since I first heard it and "saw it" connected with me on a very personal level and still does to this day. Just as Rudolph was teased as a young buck based on his differences I was too in my days in school. The story of Rudolph gave me hope and inspiration. It taught me to be proud of my differences and how special and unique I am and that I should be myself because in the end I'll come out on top but that I should do it with grace and class despite how I was treated because it's the right thing to do. It's an example that has shined to me as bright as the famous red nose. Way better than how Dumbo handled it by violently attacking everyone who made fun of and persecuted him with peanut projectiles during his moment of triumph.
That's all true and great for you. But also all of the massive problems and horrifically inappropriate behavior this video highlights is still there. Not to mention the moral of the story really is that Rudolph's nose and by extension Rudolph only has value as a person because his nose can provide a service to society. No because he's a person and therefore has intrinsic value. There is a good message in the story. But it's a single good message surrounded by a dozen horrible ones. MAYBE in its time it was better as a more accurate and brutally honest depiction of the real world (which still has the problem of being useful to society rather then having inherent value). But today you there are countless other movies and shows that can carry the same message and feelings much better and without all the bad and problematic associations. You could probably even find several Christmas movie that do the same if you looked
@@CaptNSquared Plus, most of the things this video highlights are either minuscule nitpicks, or jokes. But I will agree there is a sense of racism and sexism that’s overlooked.
A few sins for the fact that the young deer are supposed to be competing for a place on Santa’s team but it’s always the same 8 on the team, Rudolf just got lucky he was needed
th-cam.com/video/TDLMUvIkKPQ2/w-d-xo.html5 1. This Is One Of The First Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph 2. This Is One Of The Second Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph 3. This Is One Of The Third Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph 4. This Is One Of The Fourth Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph 5. This Is One Of The Last Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph
here’s another sin, this special makes the abominable snowman seem completely harmless without it's teeth, yet it still had large claws it could’ve defended itself with after loosing it’s teeth
How about this "sin"? Coming up with one of the best freaking character designs ever--King Moonracer, a lion who flies!--and then giving him around 30-60 seconds of screen time.
One thing that bothers me about how Santa's gonna look or whether or not someone else can fill in for him is the fact that kids are suppose to be asleep when he comes. Many parents even tell their kids that Santa's not gonna come unless they're asleep. So, whether Santa is skinny or fat, or has to have someone like Mrs. Claus fill in for him (Year Without a Santa Claus), it's really not going to matter if the kids just sleep through his visits anyway.
In order to make his rounds in one night, Santa would need to visit at least 1,300 homes per second. The speed of which he would be moving at would make it impossible for the naked eye to even see him.
4:23 here's a sin, why did his voice change from grouchy, to kind and friendly? Did the voice actor voicing him change his pitch to make him sound nicer? Or did they change actors for that particular scene?
Possibly as a put-on for Santa. He's a complete dick to his employees thus he has to be grouchy towards them, but as a brown-noser when it comes to Santa he'd use a softer voice.
For the record, 50 years after the making of Rudolph and Hermey who wants to be a dentist is not in the least forgetten, and still beloved. Take that sin away!
Here's a fun fact about Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, at least from what I've heard, and for those who didn't already know; Apparently the original cut of the film didn't have Santa travel to the Island of Misfit Toys, and just ended with one of Santa's elves throwing random presents with the names of the developers on the aforementioned presents. This was apparently was hated by those who originally saw the original cut, that they later added the scene where Santa made a quick trip the Island of Misfit Toys to pick up the rejected toys in order to get them a. hopefully, permanent home.
And the scene where Yukon finds the peppermint mine that he's been looking for (explaining why he licks his pick-axe) was removed to make room for the new scene.
Snowman: "Seems elves have that certain knack for toy making." CinemaSins: "What knack might that be? This guy's just whacking his wood with a hammer." Me: So, he's a little masochist. Don't judge.
Cornelius' gun was probably temporarily filled with jelly and therefore he had an axe to pick with using it against the Bumble-ing abominable snow monster.
Missed sin: the "Gee, I wonder who's the main character?" cliche that happens both with Clarice (the only doe wearing a bow) and Hermey (the only elf with visible hair and different facial features)
When you get older and realize that Santa is kind of the villain in this movie. I also found really suspicious that everyone only started to accept Rudolph for his differences when said differences were able to be exploited and Rudolph got special treatment because of it.
I have actually never seen the elf practice before. I guess it was cut from the TV viewings when I was a kid for time, or something. Suddenly the head elf demanding to know WHY WEREN'T YOU AT ELF PRACTICE makes a lot more sense.
I thought the Abominable Snowman was aggressive because his teeth hurt. That's why Hermie tje elf pulled them. His teeth being gone and no more pain, he was nice.
"We now derail your story about Rudolph to introduce you to a character no one will remember in 50 years." How DARE you! I may not remember his name, but how could anyone forget the dentist elf and his horrifying "toy" that is a doll with anatomically correct teeth?
I have additional problems with this program: 1. The whole catalyst for Rudolph being recruited to Santa’s sleigh team is bad weather. I mean sure, it would be hard to traverse it if it only covered the North Pole, but the intro with the newsprints and some of the dialogue makes it out to be a worldwide phenomenon. Show seems to completely neglect how weather and climate work to over-complicate the resolution. 2. Per reindeer (aka caribou) physiology, they are the only deer genus in which BOTH males and females grow antlers. So sin on this show for not being biologically accurate by having antlered does. 3. 4:23 How did this character’s voice go from hoarse and mean-sounding to softer and nasal-like all of the sudden, and WHY this one part of the whole show does this happen? 4. Some of the “misfit” toys. -Can Charlie-in-the-Box not change his name to Jack? How did he even end up with the name “Charlie”. And on that note, why is it even called a “Jack-in-the-Box”? Why should a differing name even deter a kid, anyway!? -What is Dolly for Sue’s “misfit” quality? It’s never said. -Sure, spots on Spotted Elephant is “misfit” material, but don’t tell me no kid ever wanted that. -Bird that Swims also actually sounds like a cool quality. -Also, that last one isn’t a toy, it’s a LIVE EFFING ANIMAL! -In summary, it seems like the word “misfit” on this island is really less about the distinct traits of its inhabitants and more about their prejudged rejection by the outside world. They should’ve actually called it “the Island of Ostracized Toys.” And 5. This one’s more about the lyrics of the song (which predates this special by a couple decades, by the way). “But do you recall the most famous reindeer of all?” Um, was I just asked if I live under a rock? If Rudolph is so damned famous, why is the song (by inference) asking a lot of people if they’re in the know? Either (when the song first premiered) Rudolph was not famous at all, or the fact that this song is a constant among TONS of other Christmas songs should invalidate that question of recollection. Is Rudolph famous or forgettable? Those lyrics sound like it’s trying to have it both ways!
Here are my other problems with the "misfit" toys: -The choo-choo can get new wheels, it's an easy fix. -TV Sins explained my nitpick with the water pistol. -A cowboy riding an ostrich sounds fun too. -Kids can still play with the boat on land and pretend it's on water or make it a submarine. -What were the "misfit" qualities for the fire truck and scooter? They weren't explained either.
A bird that can swim but not fly is also called - a penguin! And dropping a penguin from the sky without so much as an umbrella to slow its descent - well, that’s not going to end well for the penguin: “I can see the sleigh now. It’s flying a banner behind it which says “Merry, Christmas, from, W, K, R, P.” The back of the sleigh is opening, and it looked like a skydiver has jumped from a low 2,000’. And there goes another. I don’t see a parachute opening yet. I’m not quite sure they are skydivers - oh god, they’re penguins! They’re hitting the ground like bags of wet cement! One just went through a car windshield! Everyone is running for their lives. Kids are screaming. This is the worst Chri...” - Thank you for that on scene report. For those of you just tuning in, Santa just bombed the Johnson’s neighborhood with live penguins.
For #3 that was on purpose. It’s the abusive elf boss pretending to be nice in front of Santa and that’s why he immediately reverts back once Santa leaves the room
I enjoy how the title makes it seem like you're just listing what's wrong with Rudolph in general, instead of about a movie... The other reindeers would be pleased
9:45 One thing I noticed is that he gives them all umbrella parachutes except for the bird because birds fly. But that one didn't fly, and that's why he was on the island of misfit toys, but I guess they forgot about that because the elf here just throws him out of the sleigh with no parachute.
I watched this so special so often as a kid that I damn well knew that Silence of the Lambs joke was coming from the start of this video... and I couldn't do a thing to stop it.
I'm surprised that you didn't bring up the fact that both male and female reindeer have antlers and males loose their antlers in the fall. So Santa's sleigh would have been pulled by the women.
What a great classic. Sort of in the same vein as Christmas Vacation, the second I heard the snowman’s voice I was immediately taken back to Christmas at my grandmas house when I was a kid.
What? No sins off for how CBS has been showing a butchered verison of "We're a Couple of Misfits" for nearly TWO DECADES? Especially when perfect fine copies of the song are on every DVD and Blu-ray copy of Rudolph for that same time period.
One of my all time favorite, must watch Christmas shows for 50 years +, and now I am older I can make fun of it, and I love it even more, RIP Bird that Can't Fly getting tossed off the sleigh without an umbrella
Does Santa ever "change up" his reindeer team? All these reindeer working hard their whole lives to join the team, but he only uses the same 8 forever and ever. The rest are just bench warmers.
I'm convinced that in order to write this movie, someone was listening to the song, and took acid about halfway through writing it. Hence the yeti, Cornelius, ect.
One problem... Mrs. Claus says ''You're going to disappoint the children they expect a fat Santa'' How the hell are the kids going to see him when they are sleeping? So they won't know if he's skinny or fat.
The old school cartoon Rudolph that was made in the 1930s or so was wayy sweeter!! The Santa Claus didn't make fun of him or anything! This movie really shows how much he got picked on
1. Where did Hermie get the teeth for the dolls? 2. Rudolph meets Hermie when he's just chilling under a pile of snow. WTF he doing down there 3. Why was the Abominable waiting so long to eat the reindeer? Rudolph's mom, Donner, and Clarice were already there by the time Rudolph showed up, so why, as he was about to eat Clarice, did he wait so damn long to do anything? Rudolph was out cold for who knows how long and Bumble just didn't do anything that entire time? Also, Donner can fly, right? How did he get captured? Seems like if its this easy the entire village of Christmastown would be trapped under this dude's reign of terror. 4. Sam: "It was best to get the women back to Christmastown." That's sexist! 5. Why is the boss elf in charge of other necessities such as dentist offices? Shouldn't Santa or Mama be head bitch when it comes to that? Also, when boss elf finally gives Hermie permission to open a dentist office, Hermie schedules him an appointment for "Next Tuesday, 4:30 sharp." Why? What else did he have going on? He doesn't have other patients. He JUST got permission to open it. His business practice of scheduling his clients' appointments with no flexibility won't last long.
Idea: A Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer movie where they do the "Guide my sleigh tonight" thing in the first-act. Afterwhich, he is still mocked, even resented for his nose and leaves.
Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end: 1 (9:56): Elf (New Line Cinema, 2003) 2 (10:06): Robin Hood Men in Tights (20th Century Studios, 1993) 3 (10:13): Any Given Sunday (Warner Bros., 1999) 4 (10:35): The Silence of the Lambs (Orion Pictures, 1991) 5 (10:44): BoJack Horseman, "One Trick Pony" (season 1, episode 10; Netflix, 22nd August 2014) 6 (10:51): Adventures of Superman's intro (1952) 7 (11:02): Game of Thrones, "First of His Name" (season 4, episode 5; HBO, 4th May 2014) 8 (11:09): Step Brothers (Columbia Pictures, 2008) 9 (11:23): Prep & Landing (ABC, 8th December 2009) 10 (11:34): Toy Story (Walt Disney Pictures, 1995)
Well, the moral of the story is that people who are different are useful only if they can be exploited, as they pointed out. I'd consider that pretty wrong.
At 9:45, the elf shoves the bird who can't fly (he swims) out of the sleigh without an umbrella. Worse than that, he dangles the umbrella in front of the flightless bird before committing fowl homicide.
Kids will never know the joy of having to wait all year for Rudolph, Santa Clause is Coming to Town and Charlie Brown Christmas on TV. You know it was Christmas break from schools when these were on the tube.
Little known fact: In a deleted scene, Cornelius uses the pickaxe to find a peppermint mine, and licking the axe is his way to find the peppermint. The biggest sin here is cutting out that scene and LEAVING IN THE PART WHERE HE LICKS THE PICKAXE. It goes from weird to just plain creepy.
Just saw it on Freeform last night and it had the peppermint scene in it, but don't remember ever seeing it before.
Here is that scene: th-cam.com/video/RVOkBrfKADs/w-d-xo.html
The first time the special aired it had this scene, but the Misfit Toys weren't given new homes in this version. People wrote in and complained, so a new ending was filmed with the Misfit Toys being delivered, and the peppermint mine scene was deleted to make room for it.
@@KasumiKenshirou omg. That makes so much sense. And is also so stupid. Thank you
@@taker1z Saw that a few days ago on Freefom as well. Since I knew about the deleted scene, the first thought that came into my head was basically "Finally!"
* lick, lick, lick * Hmf, nothin'.
I think you missed the biggest sin, at the end when the elf is throwing the toys out with umbrellas, he doesn't give one to the bird. The bird that can't fly, but swims.😳
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed! I been saying for years now that that self is a psycho for doing exactly that! Lol
Damn I didn’t notice that 😂😂😂
Exactly
It's supposed to be a penguin
The dentist Elf is actually theorized to be human because he has round ears and not pointy ones, which would explain his lack of toy skills and said interest in toy making. So you can sin the fact that Santa has added kidnapping to his Christmas List.
And it happened again with buddy.
OMG! Buddy is in Rudolph!
Very interesting.
That dentist elf grew up to become Mr. Epstein
Maybe he's only half elf, Santa may have been involved with one of the pink elves....I mean it's not out of the question lol like not trying to ruin childhoods here!
"The kids will be disappointed with a skinny Santa!" Um... the kids don't actually SEE Santa, because he drops the toys via umbrella into their houses. Not to even mention that they're all supposed to be asleep.
I just had a thought, what if she's breaking the 4th wall and talking about the kids watching?
Fun Fact: Male reindeer antlers actually shed their velvet in the fall. It's actually the FEMALE reindeer that keep their antlers in the winter.
THANK YOU...I HAVE BLOWN SO MANY PEOPLE'S MINDS ABOUT SANTA'S REINDEER
Does don’t have antlers.. bucks shed antlers after the rut and grow them back in the spring
@@TheMoose126 ALL reindeer have antlers regardless of if they're doe or buck.
@@TheMoose126 Reindeer are the only deer species where both males & females grow antlers.
Magic lol
Unfortunately, the least stupid Rudolph special is the 1948 one, which is basically just a music video.
Also, you missed a sin. The elf throwing toys out of the sleigh doesn't give the bird an umbrella because birds can fly, but this bird would still need one because he said in the song that he swims instead of flies. That part's always bothered me.
Straight up murder in your kid's movie
It does fit a little too well with the observation here that the elf is just disposing of the misfit toys.
Yep, cold blooded murder played for laughs.
I feel they made a dark adult show, and wrapped it in a thin layer of children’s show. You look too closely at anything and the whole movie takes some very dark twists. Non-elf eared, Hermes has blonde hair. Mrs Claus is a brunette. That’s Santa’s love child he’s hiding from the mrs by disguising him as an elf. But she knows. She’s pushing real hard to convince Santa he needs to fatten up. “For the kids”. More like “so you don’t go knocking up some Vegas resident on the 25th, again, when going house to house with your brown nosed reindeer.”
@@stephen3164 There's a theory running around that Yukon Cornelius is also theirs.
"Why weren't you at elf practice?"
"I'm an Elf, I don't need practice to exist."
Hermey was busy.
And here's another sin that I forgot to say about. Why is Santa Claus a complete dkhead in this? Santa is supposed to be jolly and merry. Did they make him that way because he's old? Or they did that, because they're the dkheads.
Maybe A /The Year Without a Santa Claus was the sequel?
Bad Santa: The Beginning.
Santa is a dickhead. He breaks into homes, puts coal in the stockings of "naughty" children.
I am outraged that you didn't sin the "reindeer" actually being common white-tailed deer!
it took me years to realize this but now it bothers me every time i watch!
Christmas reindeer are the koala bears of the deer/reindeer world.
Mhm. Proven By The Females Having *Shudders* NO ANTLERS
My biggest issue with this whole special is that the adorable spotted elephant is somehow an unwanted toy.
And the little girl doll. What do you suppose is her problem? Is she a… chewing doll?!
@@Dragonrider1227 prolly a prototype for the cabbage patch eat your children dolls. but this one had a reverse function making it "defective".
@@Dragonrider1227 Iirc, the creators said that she was depressed
@@Dragonrider1227 my family watches Rudolph every Christmas Eve. Every single year we debate over what might be wrong with this stupid doll. This year I came up with a potential answer: she's too loud. She's the only female toy seen or heard on the island individually, but yet when the entire chorus is heard as a group it sounds about half male and half female. So I've decided her defect is that she just sings ridiculously loudly, lol.
@@AK-jt9gx I love this theory!
Ah, yes. The beloved Christmas tale that teaches us that people who are different are only useful if that which makes them different can be exploited.
EDIT: OK, seriously. Can you people stop making cracks about my grammar now?
That's what my mom and I have pointed out and poked fun at whenever we watch this.
Get your commie propaganda outta here
@@drewp.weiner2473 "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
@@drewp.weiner2473 What da faq are you talking about?
Being useful to someone is literally the definition of being useful. Being only useful to yourself is called being selfish.
0:56 Mrs. Claus is by far the most terrifying version of the “Grandma/mother/spouse who sets a gigantic plate of food in front of you and sends you a smile that says “You will eat every morsel, and you will not disappoint me by leaving even a crumb on this plate”
“I asked you if you want more tamales…”
There's a really hated film called "The Christmas That Almost Wasn't" that goes in another direction. Mrs. Claus has a habit of cutting down Santa and almost every other male in the story, till you want to call it male-bashing.
@@alexgrant6780 So it's set after 2010 and produced by femi-nuts, then.
I think that's why, one time, a reindeer ran Grandma over.
I don't know; Grandma Stuffum from Codename Kids Next Door might give her a run for her money.
I never understood what was wrong with a spotted elephant. I think he’s cute!
My thoughts exactly!
Measles were still in around when the movie was in production. If not that, then chicken pox. That’s what I got out of it later on.
@@plarteey1316 - yeah, that elephant was an antivaxxer. 🤣
@@stephen3164 it was the 60’s but ok
The doll seemed normal too. And why can't the Charlie in the box just change his name to Jack?
Ah, Rudolph! The classic Christmas story of how everyone hates you if your different until they find out you are actually useful.
See also: every Baby Huey cartoon ever.
Everyone always portrays the nose as light up. But it’s not light up. It’s shiny, like polished metal, it’s reflective. So it reflects light, and therefore would be useless on a foggy night.
But the song says "You could even say it glows"
this show teaches that its only ok to be a "misfit" if you are useful and that is a giant sin right there
If he was fired for being different, this might make sense, however he is fired for not doing his job, then hired back when he proves he actually can do his job. That’s called work ethic
“I’m a reliable reindeer!”
@@justmatt4227 Santa literally says he can't be apart of the team because of his nose despite being good at flying
I think the message is for the audience to not discount someone's abilities just because they're different.
But sure, perpetuate this tired meme.
@@oliviastratton2169 you would have a point if the end of the movie was not literally " hey your disformity is helpful so we like you now"
Freshman year in college they set up a Christmas thing for us right before break where they showed all these on the big screen since we couldn't go out and drink, and of course we all showed up drunk. It devolved quickly into something like this as we realized how horrible this thing actually was for the first time (Santa's an ass, Donner's an ass, etc.), and our childhood psyches were also destroyed. But luckily we didn't care, cause you know drunk.
When I was old enough to finally understand how sexist “No woman, this is man’s judgment” I was too shocked to be offended, it was just funny by that point.
In 1964 that was the prevailing sentiment.
At least you realized that it's possible for that to be funny
A must-watch when I was young every Christmas season and back then it only came on once a year.
As much as we wanna say nothing is wrong with this timeless classic: no movie nor tv show is without a sin.
I guess one problem is Santa is kinda a jerk. Why can’t he appreciate the holy music of “We are Santa’s Elve’s?!”
Or commercial.
@@CreatureCaloh good, I thought that as well
Missed Sin: Rudolph survived being crushed by a stalactite.
Oh yeah I forgot about that.
Wait, wait! There's one sin you missed. This special was released in 1964, and the roman numeral, which said "MCLXIV", means 1164. That means that someone forgot to put the second M between the C and L.
No, it's not. This special has actually been around that long.
I feel like the entire show was an intentional f-u to the boss who made their employees produce a kids show about “Santa, reindeer, toys, and shit”. “And give it some action scenes with a monster they have to fight or something. Get it to me in 3 days. I don’t care if you have to sleep under your desk - get it done.”
Santa basically saying he didn’t want Rudolph on his team if his nose didn’t look normal was not only crushing to see as a kid but also the opposite of what you want to see in Santa.
“Santa hates freaks.”
My sin is Rudolph was already fully functionally useful before his red nose ever became exploitable. It's not like it weakened him physically, or slowed his airspeed or altitude, or made him dumb, or any of that crap. So the lesson is, he had to prove himself *exceptional* just to be *accepted*. If he just had a weird colored nose, that prodouced no additional light, he would've stayed ostracized indefinitely because he was different, and that difference, while not harming his performance in any way, also didn't help anyone. And the movie expects us to be okay with that, and I am NOT okay with that!
That Bumble might be toothless, but it is still twice the height of a man, and still has enormous claws. Not only is it still a threat, but it should be pissed.
I wanted to take a moment to offer up some relevant perspective.
I'm legally blind and have other disabilities. The story of Rudolph ever since I first heard it and "saw it" connected with me on a very personal level and still does to this day. Just as Rudolph was teased as a young buck based on his differences I was too in my days in school.
The story of Rudolph gave me hope and inspiration. It taught me to be proud of my differences and how special and unique I am and that I should be myself because in the end I'll come out on top but that I should do it with grace and class despite how I was treated because it's the right thing to do. It's an example that has shined to me as bright as the famous red nose. Way better than how Dumbo handled it by violently attacking everyone who made fun of and persecuted him with peanut projectiles during his moment of triumph.
Assuming that's true (it's the Internet, you can't trust anything), rock on, good sir. I hope you're doing well.
Thank you for this comment. It’s nice to see there are still some thoughtful people in this world
That's all true and great for you. But also all of the massive problems and horrifically inappropriate behavior this video highlights is still there. Not to mention the moral of the story really is that Rudolph's nose and by extension Rudolph only has value as a person because his nose can provide a service to society. No because he's a person and therefore has intrinsic value.
There is a good message in the story. But it's a single good message surrounded by a dozen horrible ones. MAYBE in its time it was better as a more accurate and brutally honest depiction of the real world (which still has the problem of being useful to society rather then having inherent value). But today you there are countless other movies and shows that can carry the same message and feelings much better and without all the bad and problematic associations. You could probably even find several Christmas movie that do the same if you looked
@@CaptNSquared Dude, let the man have his moment, Jesus Christ…
@@CaptNSquared Plus, most of the things this video highlights are either minuscule nitpicks, or jokes. But I will agree there is a sense of racism and sexism that’s overlooked.
A few sins for the fact that the young deer are supposed to be competing for a place on Santa’s team but it’s always the same 8 on the team, Rudolf just got lucky he was needed
Missed sin opportunity, the misfit toy who says it’s a bird that doesn’t fly, but swim. That’s a penguin dude. How is a penguin a misfit toy?
This special was Christmas magic to me as a kid.
This is important to me cliche. DING
I don't remember ever seeing it. Maybe it was before my time. I'm 48. Or maybe it just bored me to tears, and I forgot all about it.
@@JimmyMon666 I honestly think it was before MOST of our times (a 60s movie) but I do remember watching at as a tyke in the early 90s
In '64 there were hardly ANY Christmas specials so this was a big deal. Also, Scare und shorts - being a dick cliché. DING
Does Santa really choose "eight lucky reindeer?" I was under the impression that he used the same eight reindeer every year.
That reminds me, in the universe of "Olive, the Other Reindeer", Rudolph doesn't exist, he's "just an urban legend."
At the end, you only see 6 reindeer including Rudolph which makes 7.
That's why they're lucky.
Tha was just One poem 😊
This is one of the first times I mention how cruel a special is, and it's friggin' Rudolph!
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1. This Is One Of The First Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph
2. This Is One Of The Second Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph
3. This Is One Of The Third Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph
4. This Is One Of The Fourth Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph
5. This Is One Of The Last Times I Mention How Cruel A Special Is And Its Friggin Rudolph
Misfit toys: “We are all Misfits 🙁”
Woody: “You Are A Toy!!!”
here’s another sin, this special makes the abominable snowman seem completely harmless without it's teeth, yet it still had large claws it could’ve defended itself with after loosing it’s teeth
I can’t stand it anymore. Why does everyone seem to misspell the word ‘LOSING’?
@@michaelzurilla7639 It was actually Hermie that "loosed" the Bumble's teeth. :)
Not to mention the fact he's physically bigger than any of them...he could crush them all like a bug. 😒
How about this "sin"? Coming up with one of the best freaking character designs ever--King Moonracer, a lion who flies!--and then giving him around 30-60 seconds of screen time.
You missed the biggest sin: The fact that the head elf has a completely different voice when he begins to conduct the choir
Yes finally someone pointed that out!
It might be the same actor -- he was supposed to be imitating a very popular TV band leader at the time named Lawrence Welk.
@@themotleycollector Thats funny
One thing that bothers me about how Santa's gonna look or whether or not someone else can fill in for him is the fact that kids are suppose to be asleep when he comes. Many parents even tell their kids that Santa's not gonna come unless they're asleep. So, whether Santa is skinny or fat, or has to have someone like Mrs. Claus fill in for him (Year Without a Santa Claus), it's really not going to matter if the kids just sleep through his visits anyway.
In order to make his rounds in one night, Santa would need to visit at least 1,300 homes per second. The speed of which he would be moving at would make it impossible for the naked eye to even see him.
4:23 here's a sin, why did his voice change from grouchy, to kind and friendly? Did the voice actor voicing him change his pitch to make him sound nicer? Or did they change actors for that particular scene?
They changed actors for that particular scene. I can’t remember why.
I'm pretty sure he's playing up not being an angry, abusive boss for Santa in that scene.
Dude, he’s putting on a front for his boss.
@@AidentSnyder Supposedly, it was because it was recorded over a 3-day period. Not everyone involved could be available all the while.
Possibly as a put-on for Santa. He's a complete dick to his employees thus he has to be grouchy towards them, but as a brown-noser when it comes to Santa he'd use a softer voice.
For the record, 50 years after the making of Rudolph and Hermey who wants to be a dentist is not in the least forgetten, and still beloved. Take that sin away!
Weirdest thing about the "Skinny or Fat Santa" plot? Kids are gonna be asleep when he comes, they won't see him, it won't matter!
Here's a fun fact about Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, at least from what I've heard, and for those who didn't already know; Apparently the original cut of the film didn't have Santa travel to the Island of Misfit Toys, and just ended with one of Santa's elves throwing random presents with the names of the developers on the aforementioned presents. This was apparently was hated by those who originally saw the original cut, that they later added the scene where Santa made a quick trip the Island of Misfit Toys to pick up the rejected toys in order to get them a. hopefully, permanent home.
And the scene where Yukon finds the peppermint mine that he's been looking for (explaining why he licks his pick-axe) was removed to make room for the new scene.
Sin #34 is ableist. That's the word you were looking for Jeremy.
Snowman: "Seems elves have that certain knack for toy making."
CinemaSins: "What knack might that be? This guy's just whacking his wood with a hammer."
Me: So, he's a little masochist. Don't judge.
I know right? Kink shame much?
Cornelius' gun was probably temporarily filled with jelly and therefore he had an axe to pick with using it against the Bumble-ing abominable snow monster.
“Axe spray”.
An original draft he was actually prospecting for peppermint. That's why he licks his ax.
4:22
I call that conductor off-tempo.
Probably a trick for the voice actor to match the stop-motion, though.
Missed sin: the "Gee, I wonder who's the main character?" cliche that happens both with Clarice (the only doe wearing a bow) and Hermey (the only elf with visible hair and different facial features)
When you get older and realize that Santa is kind of the villain in this movie. I also found really suspicious that everyone only started to accept Rudolph for his differences when said differences were able to be exploited and Rudolph got special treatment because of it.
I have actually never seen the elf practice before. I guess it was cut from the TV viewings when I was a kid for time, or something. Suddenly the head elf demanding to know WHY WEREN'T YOU AT ELF PRACTICE makes a lot more sense.
Hermey didn't need anesthesia to remove the Abominable Snowman's teeth. He was already knocked out by the boulder Cornelius dropped on his head.
I thought the Abominable Snowman was aggressive because his teeth hurt. That's why Hermie tje elf pulled them. His teeth being gone and no more pain, he was nice.
@@misspinkpunkykat what? No. He became nice because without his sharp teeth, he couldn't eat anyone and was no longer scary.
"We now derail your story about Rudolph to introduce you to a character no one will remember in 50 years."
How DARE you! I may not remember his name, but how could anyone forget the dentist elf and his horrifying "toy" that is a doll with anatomically correct teeth?
"... and thick Maybe It's Maybelline eyelashes ..." 🤣😂
I have additional problems with this program:
1. The whole catalyst for Rudolph being recruited to Santa’s sleigh team is bad weather. I mean sure, it would be hard to traverse it if it only covered the North Pole, but the intro with the newsprints and some of the dialogue makes it out to be a worldwide phenomenon. Show seems to completely neglect how weather and climate work to over-complicate the resolution.
2. Per reindeer (aka caribou) physiology, they are the only deer genus in which BOTH males and females grow antlers. So sin on this show for not being biologically accurate by having antlered does.
3. 4:23 How did this character’s voice go from hoarse and mean-sounding to softer and nasal-like all of the sudden, and WHY this one part of the whole show does this happen?
4. Some of the “misfit” toys.
-Can Charlie-in-the-Box not change his name to Jack? How did he even end up with the name “Charlie”. And on that note, why is it even called a “Jack-in-the-Box”? Why should a differing name even deter a kid, anyway!?
-What is Dolly for Sue’s “misfit” quality? It’s never said.
-Sure, spots on Spotted Elephant is “misfit” material, but don’t tell me no kid ever wanted that.
-Bird that Swims also actually sounds like a cool quality.
-Also, that last one isn’t a toy, it’s a LIVE EFFING ANIMAL!
-In summary, it seems like the word “misfit” on this island is really less about the distinct traits of its inhabitants and more about their prejudged rejection by the outside world. They should’ve actually called it “the Island of Ostracized Toys.”
And 5. This one’s more about the lyrics of the song (which predates this special by a couple decades, by the way).
“But do you recall the most famous reindeer of all?”
Um, was I just asked if I live under a rock? If Rudolph is so damned famous, why is the song (by inference) asking a lot of people if they’re in the know? Either (when the song first premiered) Rudolph was not famous at all, or the fact that this song is a constant among TONS of other Christmas songs should invalidate that question of recollection. Is Rudolph famous or forgettable? Those lyrics sound like it’s trying to have it both ways!
Given the time period, I'm sure Dolly for Sue's misfit quality was burning the toast.
Here are my other problems with the "misfit" toys:
-The choo-choo can get new wheels, it's an easy fix.
-TV Sins explained my nitpick with the water pistol.
-A cowboy riding an ostrich sounds fun too.
-Kids can still play with the boat on land and pretend it's on water or make it a submarine.
-What were the "misfit" qualities for the fire truck and scooter? They weren't explained either.
A bird that can swim but not fly is also called - a penguin! And dropping a penguin from the sky without so much as an umbrella to slow its descent - well, that’s not going to end well for the penguin:
“I can see the sleigh now. It’s flying a banner behind it which says “Merry, Christmas, from, W, K, R, P.” The back of the sleigh is opening, and it looked like a skydiver has jumped from a low 2,000’. And there goes another. I don’t see a parachute opening yet. I’m not quite sure they are skydivers - oh god, they’re penguins! They’re hitting the ground like bags of wet cement! One just went through a car windshield! Everyone is running for their lives. Kids are screaming. This is the worst Chri...” - Thank you for that on scene report. For those of you just tuning in, Santa just bombed the Johnson’s neighborhood with live penguins.
@@stephen3164 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for that laugh. Hilariously dope story!
For #3 that was on purpose. It’s the abusive elf boss pretending to be nice in front of Santa and that’s why he immediately reverts back once Santa leaves the room
3:15 Incorrect, I distinctly remember that this Elf performs a Root Canal on a Lion later on in life.
I enjoy how the title makes it seem like you're just listing what's wrong with Rudolph in general, instead of about a movie... The other reindeers would be pleased
Pretty profile pic.
@@christianparrish6647 :)
@@gferrol118 I like giving complements.
9:45 One thing I noticed is that he gives them all umbrella parachutes except for the bird because birds fly. But that one didn't fly, and that's why he was on the island of misfit toys, but I guess they forgot about that because the elf here just throws him out of the sleigh with no parachute.
The bird who couldn't fly, but could swim... He refused the umbrella and jumped off the sleigh!... SPLAT!!!
6:51 Very relatable. The Bumble gave me childhood trauma filled nightmares for years!
I award YOU a sin for not acknowledging that the elf dropped a bird out of the sleigh that was unable to fly.
I watched this so special so often as a kid that I damn well knew that Silence of the Lambs joke was coming from the start of this video... and I couldn't do a thing to stop it.
I'm surprised that you didn't bring up the fact that both male and female reindeer have antlers and males loose their antlers in the fall. So Santa's sleigh would have been pulled by the women.
Yes! I always think about this when I watch Christmas movies
well considering how older times treated women im not surprised in the slightest but it is disappointing
What a great classic. Sort of in the same vein as Christmas Vacation, the second I heard the snowman’s voice I was immediately taken back to Christmas at my grandmas house when I was a kid.
"a living creature cannot hide himself on an island" Baby New Year needs to be given that lecture.
4:24 No sin for that guy's voice suddenly changing?
What? No sins off for how CBS has been showing a butchered verison of "We're a Couple of Misfits" for nearly TWO DECADES? Especially when perfect fine copies of the song are on every DVD and Blu-ray copy of Rudolph for that same time period.
"Wacking his wood with his hammer" 😆 I'll see myself out
You forgot the fact that Santa was willing to cancel Christmas over a snowstorm... even though he lives at the North Pole.
3:19 How DARE you!? Hermey is an international treasure and I will NOT STAND for this slander.
But you’re sitting down…
Hermey deserves more appreciation. He just wants to be a dentist.
4:41 ??? I've never seen that part where he gets blown away by the tuba. Do they always cut that for time on TV?
When I was a little kid. I always liked that train that had the square wheels.🚂🚂🚂
He forgot to sin the fact that the misfit bird can't fly and the elf just fucking chucked him with no umbrella 😅😂
0:50 Also, those are clearly sea lions. ~DING!~
I don't remember ever seeing this Rudolph movie.
I definitely remember Rudolph's Shiny New Year.
2:46 I always thought he was pretending to be a dead tree branch or something
One of my all time favorite, must watch Christmas shows for 50 years +, and now I am older I can make fun of it, and I love it even more, RIP Bird that Can't Fly getting tossed off the sleigh without an umbrella
Does Santa ever "change up" his reindeer team? All these reindeer working hard their whole lives to join the team, but he only uses the same 8 forever and ever. The rest are just bench warmers.
I'm convinced that in order to write this movie, someone was listening to the song, and took acid about halfway through writing it. Hence the yeti, Cornelius, ect.
One problem... Mrs. Claus says ''You're going to disappoint the children they expect a fat Santa'' How the hell are the kids going to see him when they are sleeping? So they won't know if he's skinny or fat.
The old school cartoon Rudolph that was made in the 1930s or so was wayy sweeter!! The Santa Claus didn't make fun of him or anything! This movie really shows how much he got picked on
So is the 1998 version by Goodtimes Entertainment.
My son screamed his head off when he was 16 months old over the Abominable Monster.
1:25 "Actually, Santa losing weight and it being a bad thing is an old olllld joke. So yeah, people cared about it."
1. Where did Hermie get the teeth for the dolls?
2. Rudolph meets Hermie when he's just chilling under a pile of snow. WTF he doing down there
3. Why was the Abominable waiting so long to eat the reindeer? Rudolph's mom, Donner, and Clarice were already there by the time Rudolph showed up, so why, as he was about to eat Clarice, did he wait so damn long to do anything? Rudolph was out cold for who knows how long and Bumble just didn't do anything that entire time? Also, Donner can fly, right? How did he get captured? Seems like if its this easy the entire village of Christmastown would be trapped under this dude's reign of terror.
4. Sam: "It was best to get the women back to Christmastown." That's sexist!
5. Why is the boss elf in charge of other necessities such as dentist offices? Shouldn't Santa or Mama be head bitch when it comes to that? Also, when boss elf finally gives Hermie permission to open a dentist office, Hermie schedules him an appointment for "Next Tuesday, 4:30 sharp." Why? What else did he have going on? He doesn't have other patients. He JUST got permission to open it. His business practice of scheduling his clients' appointments with no flexibility won't last long.
Did anyone else notice the reindeer Fireball has blond human hair?
you have changed how i will forever watch these shows. thank you
how bout the sin of why does his nose make loud high pitch tones when on.
This program is my entire Christmas season childhood.
I don't see enough people ever talk about the fact that Hermey is clearly human. He was Buddy the Elf decades before Elf.
Anyone else notice that Buddy's elf clothes in "Elf" are the same as the manager elf's outfit in this film? 🤔
Still my favorite holiday movie but the commentary was hilarious 😂
Mrs. Claus doing her own form of body-shaming
Thank you for covering this, the most ableist of Christmas specials.
(And that is a high bar to clear bc Christmas specials are suuuuuuper ableist)
Idea:
A Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer movie where they do the "Guide my sleigh tonight" thing in the first-act.
Afterwhich, he is still mocked, even resented for his nose and leaves.
The wampa scene in The Empire Strikes Back is very similar to the Abominable Snow Monster scene in Rudolph.
Okay but it’s still my favorite you can’t change my mind
American show continuously refers to the deer by their non-american name: Reindeer instead of the American name: Caribou.
Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end:
1 (9:56): Elf (New Line Cinema, 2003)
2 (10:06): Robin Hood Men in Tights (20th Century Studios, 1993)
3 (10:13): Any Given Sunday (Warner Bros., 1999)
4 (10:35): The Silence of the Lambs (Orion Pictures, 1991)
5 (10:44): BoJack Horseman, "One Trick Pony" (season 1, episode 10; Netflix, 22nd August 2014)
6 (10:51): Adventures of Superman's intro (1952)
7 (11:02): Game of Thrones, "First of His Name" (season 4, episode 5; HBO, 4th May 2014)
8 (11:09): Step Brothers (Columbia Pictures, 2008)
9 (11:23): Prep & Landing (ABC, 8th December 2009)
10 (11:34): Toy Story (Walt Disney Pictures, 1995)
6:25 ... attach some fog lights to Santa's sleigh...😂🤣
Bold of you to assume there is anything wrong with this classic
Well they do say no movie or show is above sin.
Santa's an ass at the beginning, for one.
@@grapeshot exactly
Well, the moral of the story is that people who are different are useful only if they can be exploited, as they pointed out. I'd consider that pretty wrong.
8:22 actually Cornilus knock the abdominal out with a rock, so that counts as an anesthetic.
Never forget that the dolls misfit characteristic is depression
I thought she didn't have a nose?
@@dbseamz I had to Google It, the creator said it was low self-esteem and psychological problems
At 9:45, the elf shoves the bird who can't fly (he swims) out of the sleigh without an umbrella. Worse than that, he dangles the umbrella in front of the flightless bird before committing fowl homicide.
Kids will never know the joy of having to wait all year for Rudolph, Santa Clause is Coming to Town and Charlie Brown Christmas on TV. You know it was Christmas break from schools when these were on the tube.
Charlie Brown and Peanuts freaking sucks.
I remember watching this movie for the first time as an adult and going "Holy shit! Santa is an asshole and the northpole is full of bigots".
1964!