that's like how jimi hendrix used to play with his thumb. john mayer does the same thing. most guitar players have a difficult time playing their stuff because of how autonomically difficult it is while including the thumb
@@nycyabber7103 You are not lying dude. I play guitar and unfortunately I have small hands. I wish to god I could flop my thumb over the top of the neck and hit those bass notes so that my other fingers are more free to move around differently. Unfortunately it's just not possible. The good news is once you accept that's just not going to happen for you, you can free yourself to explore things you can do differently and maybe more creatively than your icons did. Music is about expression, and your physical dimensions can sometimes create the boundaries for that expression. The cool thing is that working within boundaries can often yield super creative thinking!
I found you can come up with countless techniques right or wrong and I find it's all about how you use it and when. Drums are awesome this way and are the ultimate tool of self expression in my experience
I hate watching drummers who have no finger control. It’s such an ugly way to play. Especially self proclaimed “heavy hitters” who think that not being able to play quietly is a good thing. Been playing for nearly 20 years and I’ve never broken a stick, a cymbal, or a drum head. There is NO reason to break your instrument unless it’s literally something that wears out like guitar strings. Even then if you were breaking strings constantly the way some guys break sticks it would be obvious something was wrong. Luckily more and more players are getting corrected about this shit.
Yep. I learned this through painting. If I make a mark I think is bad or make an error, I go all in on it and accent it in a way that the error becomes awesome snd unique to the piece
HOLY crap! I know I'm late to this video but that is exactly how I learned to do ghost notes. I thought everybody did them this way. Until I was called out by another drummer years ago. SO crazy!
Saw Nate with Chris Potter Underground live and it was awesome. It was the last show of that tour and they were playing incredibly tight. They were filming Nate's drum solo. Epic show.
Couldn't agree more! I personally do a pressing method, but like you said to each their own! I'm currently teaching my friend the basics and he's already doing stuff I wouldn't normally think of. So fascinating to see how different people approach playing
Wow, thought I was the only one. Never had lessons, and it wasn’t until years later other drummers noticed and tried to correct me. By then, it was hard to unlearn it, but it made sense to me, the physics of it anyway. Imagine opening a jelly or jam that’s hard to open. You get way more power and torque turning towards your body rather than away from it, and the movement itself was easier for me to control. I still struggle to try to play ghost notes the traditional way using fingers to help, timing the rebound of the stick.
Nate Smith just shows how you can be an amazing jazz drummer but also cross over into pretty much any genre. Probably why Dave Holland brought him into his band.
For those saying these are not ghost notes: A ghost note is not defined by the technique used to play it. A ghost note is a note that lives inside a drum beat. It is quieter than the backbeat. It is a detail that adds color to the beat. A ghost note can be played with any number of techniques including what you guys are calling “press rolls, drags, grace notes” etc. it doesn’t matter what technique you use to play it. A ghost note is about the content of what you play INSIDE OF A BEAT and where it sits in relation to the backbeat (rhythmically and dynamically).
sonofa....I thought I was the only person who did that little wrist turn with ghost notes to reset for a nice beefy accent. This made me so happy to see...
Idk if I’d call that a ghost note. More like multiple controlled forced notes. It’s not very quiet though when compared to almost anyone’s “ghost notes”, hence the name. Still a very cool technique I’m gonna try. Name just seemed unfit for his technique.
Well he is kind of emphasizing it more for demonstrative purposes- the dynamic is probably controllable and able to be played much more subtly than that. He did say “grace” not “ghost”, it’s really more the title- kind of a potato/potahto deal
@@TheEnderBand Thats true. I guess if it’s a technique that he created and it using a different term than “ghost note” it’s fair game. I don’t recall him saying grace note. But, I’ll take your word for it. The title of the video should say Grace Note though lol
Jay A Lay No, grace notes are notes slightly before or after a note. So it's two notes played really quickly (one usually being quieter than the primary note). Most often used to lead in or out of a note. A flam involves a grace note. A ghost note just means you play it really quietly. It's a ghost note because it's like a ghost of a note, you get a hint of it, but it's not really what you hear, you feel it more than you hear it. Daniel Del Valle All mordents are grace notes, but not all grace notes are mordents.
I just want his right hand speed. His fast af funk grooves blasting ride 16th notes on the hat just blow.me away. I cannot, for the the- life of me, retain that speed for very long.
I personally don't play ghost notes that way, nor, I suspect, will I ever. That said, musicians doing stuff like this is really good for music as a whole, because it helps stop beginners from second-guessing themselves too much if the technique that works for them happens to be uncommon.
I do something similar that helps me. Rather than going up and down with my left hand I do small circles with my wrist and hit at the bottom of the circle
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"Bad habit that turned up to be kinda of a good habit for me"
Fuckin love this man and fuckin love drumming.
that's like how jimi hendrix used to play with his thumb. john mayer does the same thing. most guitar players have a difficult time playing their stuff because of how autonomically difficult it is while including the thumb
Nice
@@nycyabber7103 You are not lying dude. I play guitar and unfortunately I have small hands. I wish to god I could flop my thumb over the top of the neck and hit those bass notes so that my other fingers are more free to move around differently. Unfortunately it's just not possible. The good news is once you accept that's just not going to happen for you, you can free yourself to explore things you can do differently and maybe more creatively than your icons did.
Music is about expression, and your physical dimensions can sometimes create the boundaries for that expression. The cool thing is that working within boundaries can often yield super creative thinking!
@@ViciousTuna2012 True af, take Django as example or even Stevie Wonder with his funky playing on the piano with a kinda percusive technique.
I found you can come up with countless techniques right or wrong and I find it's all about how you use it and when. Drums are awesome this way and are the ultimate tool of self expression in my experience
He legit uses a controlled gravity blast for that second technique insane
Coolest description of it ever.
blast beets
Or what many may call a double stroke lol
The one handed snare roll is an art in itself.
Yea totally unique to his playing. LOL.
I'm afraid of ghosts :(
🧂keep this with you, it will protect your ears
This is more like Casper the friendly ghost though
Who you gonna call?
Ghostbuster. . . . .
I'm afraid of notes :(
I'm more amazed by the force of his snare accents with almost no arm movement. It's all in the fingers. A whole arm accent of his would break a drum.
Great observation. Too many drummers dont realize how being totally relaxed will not affect the force you put behind the hit.
I hate watching drummers who have no finger control. It’s such an ugly way to play. Especially self proclaimed “heavy hitters” who think that not being able to play quietly is a good thing. Been playing for nearly 20 years and I’ve never broken a stick, a cymbal, or a drum head. There is NO reason to break your instrument unless it’s literally something that wears out like guitar strings. Even then if you were breaking strings constantly the way some guys break sticks it would be obvious something was wrong.
Luckily more and more players are getting corrected about this shit.
well Nate, whatever you're doing.... IT'S WORKING.
When you make your bad habits part of the reason for your greatness you've truly mastered your art.
Chris Turner in a nutshell lol
*every big rock artist justifying their drug addictions*
Yep. I learned this through painting. If I make a mark I think is bad or make an error, I go all in on it and accent it in a way that the error becomes awesome snd unique to the piece
nate cant play swing he aint mastered shit lmao
Last time I got rim shot, I couldn't sit down for a week
delete sys32
Hahaha
r/cursedcomments
Girl, same
so many laughs in drumline from saying that over and over
Can we talk about how great that snare drum sounds
Please, I want to know the head and tunings.
Yeah, sounds like the st. anger snare
I love the thrashy sound of his snare
One of the best snare sounds I"ve heard. Thrashy and trashy. Nice ring...
And he opens with funky drummer. Classics on top of classics here
It's the details like this that really get me hooked on a drummer's work.
don't know him. but dude seems cool.
Check out The Fearless Flyers. He's amazing in this. Also, but pretty different, his own stuff, like Kinfolk. Love this album.
@@Vermoot I listened to Kinfolk while doing deliveries last week on someone’s recommendation in a jazz shitposting group and it was great.
*Me:* "I developed a bad habit, that actually turned into a good habit for me."
*Friends and family at my intervention:* ...
Because this comment will eventually be at the top, I’m getting in early to live vicariously through your internet success 😁
That snare is higher than my future
HOLY crap! I know I'm late to this video but that is exactly how I learned to do ghost notes.
I thought everybody did them this way. Until I was called out by another drummer years ago.
SO crazy!
Saw Nate with Chris Potter Underground live and it was awesome. It was the last show of that tour and they were playing incredibly tight. They were filming Nate's drum solo. Epic show.
I saw that tour at the Jazz Bakery before it closed. I remember jamming on “The Wheel” with my buddies like we were nuclear scientists.
Just an absolute god of drummers, he's never boring to listen to
This is sick. I'm a guitarist, but I have mad respect for drummers and I find myself feeling the beat more than the riffs in certain songs.
There is no one size fits all for drumming. Do what makes you comfortable! I personally play my ghosts by quickly double hitting with my wrist.
Couldn't agree more! I personally do a pressing method, but like you said to each their own! I'm currently teaching my friend the basics and he's already doing stuff I wouldn't normally think of. So fascinating to see how different people approach playing
Yep! Play that sounds like 'you'
Wow, thought I was the only one. Never had lessons, and it wasn’t until years later other drummers noticed and tried to correct me. By then, it was hard to unlearn it, but it made sense to me, the physics of it anyway. Imagine opening a jelly or jam that’s hard to open. You get way more power and torque turning towards your body rather than away from it, and the movement itself was easier for me to control. I still struggle to try to play ghost notes the traditional way using fingers to help, timing the rebound of the stick.
drum kit sounds like an empty can of baked beans, yet still sounds amazing
Nate is one of my favorite drummers. Watch his cameo appearance with Vulfpeck live at MSG. Amazing.
Sounds like an awesome collaboration, gotta check that out. thanks for recommending it!
@@darthcreepio - 15:47 on this link th-cam.com/video/rv4wf7bzfFE/w-d-xo.html
So many drummers killing it these days...
this mans feel is just overwhelming like a spiritual god granting us a peak at infinity
"I developed a bad habit, that, turned out to be kind of a good habit, for me, because it's become unique to my playing"
Nate Smith just shows how you can be an amazing jazz drummer but also cross over into pretty much any genre. Probably why Dave Holland brought him into his band.
as a newer drummer i started doing the ghost note into rimshot thing way before i found out he does it and it's one of my favorite things
lmao that last quote is so inspirational ima make that my life motto tbh
Always do what makes you “unique” 🤌🏽
Whoa! I never thought of turning my wrist. Innovative skillset!
For those saying these are not ghost notes: A ghost note is not defined by the technique used to play it. A ghost note is a note that lives inside a drum beat. It is quieter than the backbeat. It is a detail that adds color to the beat. A ghost note can be played with any number of techniques including what you guys are calling “press rolls, drags, grace notes” etc. it doesn’t matter what technique you use to play it. A ghost note is about the content of what you play INSIDE OF A BEAT and where it sits in relation to the backbeat (rhythmically and dynamically).
It lives inside the beat? But it’s a ghost, it was alive once but then died and became a ghost. 👻
The two guys in the background. The one who's transfixed and the one who's distracted and looking around. You can tell who's not the drummer
I can always learn something new, even in 39 seconds.
This. Sick. Beat.
the drums sounds sick
Wow this guy is resourceful.
I been turning my left hand to get that same drag stroke for years. It’s an inadvertently good way to drag and pull back up fast.
Very easy thing to learn for sure, all beginners should learn the ghost note technique it can really improve your overall groove.
nobody wants to talk about those hats? soooo sweet
Thanks for the tips Boss!
I love single lug drums. Those Ludwig are sweet
So very nice jazz? Let’s just call this early bebop jazz drumming. Great video great black drummer.
those beats are refreshing like a cold drink
Finally understood what a ghost note is tbh
so smooth
most dope ! Thanx Nate !
Yeah yeah boys pinching his roll with that lefty that's good shit
He doesn’t mention that the ghost notes are a press roll!!!
Gonna go try this now
Awesome snare!
Guy has mad skills. ✌️
Sounds like the st anger snare
coolest sound ever
Very very clever
sonofa....I thought I was the only person who did that little wrist turn with ghost notes to reset for a nice beefy accent. This made me so happy to see...
0:18 It sounds so god damn good❤️🔥❤️🔥
That some sick-ass technique omg
Idk if I’d call that a ghost note. More like multiple controlled forced notes. It’s not very quiet though when compared to almost anyone’s “ghost notes”, hence the name.
Still a very cool technique I’m gonna try. Name just seemed unfit for his technique.
Well he is kind of emphasizing it more for demonstrative purposes- the dynamic is probably controllable and able to be played much more subtly than that. He did say “grace” not “ghost”, it’s really more the title- kind of a potato/potahto deal
it’s more like a drag to be fair
@@edsardpluis1563 Yeah, I agree that’s a better term for it for sure.
@@TheEnderBand Thats true. I guess if it’s a technique that he created and it using a different term than “ghost note” it’s fair game. I don’t recall him saying grace note. But, I’ll take your word for it. The title of the video should say Grace Note though lol
@@LaceChaser he says both- grace at 5 seconds then ghost around 40 seconds
"And I took that personally"
I believe those are grace notes 🤔
sdjmalik wdym?
Jazz Dunn thats the technical term for them but ghost works too.
Jay A Lay yeah I’m from the marching community, so the term “ghost Note” means something a little different to us 🤷🏾♂️ lol
Yeh, just standard stuff really :/
Jay A Lay
No, grace notes are notes slightly before or after a note. So it's two notes played really quickly (one usually being quieter than the primary note). Most often used to lead in or out of a note. A flam involves a grace note.
A ghost note just means you play it really quietly. It's a ghost note because it's like a ghost of a note, you get a hint of it, but it's not really what you hear, you feel it more than you hear it.
Daniel Del Valle
All mordents are grace notes, but not all grace notes are mordents.
best modern drummer alive
I just want his right hand speed. His fast af funk grooves blasting ride 16th notes on the hat just blow.me away. I cannot, for the the- life of me, retain that speed for very long.
Got dayum that’s awesome.
I don't even play the drums but this is super interesting to me.
So basically he’s saying play the way that works for you and then play a LOT
That's genius... I gotta try that.
To quote Mr. James Brown...yeeow jump back!! Makes me wanna kiss my self!!
I'd like to get that kit.
Is it mixed of different pieces or is it a full kit?
What's it's name?
Wut a drag brother Nate. Sounding motherfunky man.
So inspirational ❤️
I personally don't play ghost notes that way, nor, I suspect, will I ever. That said, musicians doing stuff like this is really good for music as a whole, because it helps stop beginners from second-guessing themselves too much if the technique that works for them happens to be uncommon.
The first part of the drums sounded like the drums at the beginning of the group “One Republic’s’ song “Good Life!”,
bomb asss beat the ghost notes add so much more ummmfff
That snare tone tho
Who does he play with?
Dude is that anime character with his own special jutsu
how do I get my snare to sound like this?
How tight is he tunig the batter head? It sounds and seems pretty tight when he applies those ghosts.
Tighter top head gives more stick bounce, which he counts on.
Where can I watch the full video?
Woah!!!!! 60s Ludwig Clubdate teamed with Ludwig Supraphonic!!!! No wonder I was enjoying the sound!!!!!
Legend!!!!
Ghost note followed by rimshot🤯🤯🤯
Interesting angle to see his right hand finger control technique on the ride
Dam thats cool
demon notes.... lol.. dude is a beast
Sounds like St. Anger to me......
But better
St. Angerer
uhhhh i turn my wrist like that too, hopefully i turn into nate smith one day
Traditional grip player : lmao.
Noticed myself doing this some, guess I’ll lean in to it
😳 wow nice
0:47 - Every day when you're walking down the street.
I do something similar that helps me. Rather than going up and down with my left hand I do small circles with my wrist and hit at the bottom of the circle
This guy makes Rosanna by Toto sounds like kids music
Sick!!
I have a question... what is the difference between ghost notes and accent notes?
MONSTER
All those drum mics and it still sounds like it was recorded on an iPhone....
lol the mic audio is not mixed into this video lmao
because it was
toby thetaaco because it probably was
Ahh, that explains why it sounds like he's just beating a metal trashcan.
toby thetaaco this is much worse than an iPhone mic, iPhone mica are actually quite good these days.
I used to play ghosts like that
I've seen Gary Chaffee turning his wrist for ghost notes also.
jujimufu chillin in the background?
Amaz!