Well that's ridiculous, we all know you caught the record so just because you had a different ruler and "2 flys" don't mean anything to us bro! You caught it and that's what matters! You're name may not be in the books but you know and we know you caught it 👏
Yeah, I had seen a while back it was a very difficult process for IGFA records. Sorta sucks that you could at any time in your life, you might hook a potential world record but if you ain't got that exact board then you are screwed. You are the man, keep casting!!!
I feel like the lesson here is that you caught the world record fish, and the IGFA is an organization I don’t ever want to deal with! You documented it, and they can go pound sand!!!
everyone in the area knows youre the man anyways, you catch BIG fish. I live around the 423 and almost every fisherman ive met knows who and what you do. That was a monster fight and monster fish on that tackle, congrats on the landing even if you dont have the record, youve got it in all our hearts!
That is crazy I can’t believe there are so many hoops that you have to go through. I know it would be nice to have your name in the book but at least you, Patrick and all your subscribers know you caught the world record fish regardless of all those pieces of red tape!! Such an incredible fish for sure!
This makes all their records seem worthless. Nobody can tell what the actual biggest catches were when so many potential records are ignored or dismissed.
Screw their rules. TH-cam is and will continue to be the proof for record fish. Especially on a double fly!? All around an incredible memory that you got on camera. Keep crushing it, Michael!
Moral of the story, release potential records in your bathtub or swimming pool until it’s official! I hadn’t been getting notifications for your videos. I’m glad you made it through the hurricane!
Actually I’m still not getting notifications. I just happened to realize I hadn’t seen anything from you and got worried after the storm and decided to look you up. I had been keeping you guys in my prayers. I had been relaying messages via ham radio for people cut off due to the hurricane. As you know it’s been a pretty stressful time for everyone in the area. I look forward to the new fishing videos. I always try to leave a comment & like the videos as it helps your channel. Tight lines! 👍
Yeah, it’s definitely crazy. I think the thing that bugged me the most was just the amount of time that went by in between communication. But it’s all good.
Well IGFA just lost a member and a donor....I have long disagreed with some of their excessive rules and them not certifying your fish is a direct result of one of the rules. They really should consider the laws of the state in which the fish was caught.
I feel your pain. I went through Air Assault School in Hawaii when I was stationed at Schofield Barracks. It's 2 grueling weeks of very physical and mentally demanding torture. On the final day you do a 12 mile road march carrying a standard 35 lb. rucksack. I was a Forward Observer used to carrying double that weight, so it wasn't a big deal. But it's still a 12 mile road march after getting your ass kicked for 2 weeks. When the march if finished you line up and the instructors go through each rucksack to make sure that you were carrying the equipment that was on the list they gave us prior to the march. I had everything... except my ink pen... which my wife had borrowed the night before (without me knowing) and failed to return it. So I was failed. It was over 25 years ago but I still feel that disappointment in my stomach. It sucked so bad. But I know that, minus one ink pen, I'm Air Assault qualified. I'm also divorced from that woman. ;-)
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher Rules are rules, and as much as I was mad at my wife back then, it was my responsibility to check for that pen before I started the march. It sucks, just like your ordeal. But we both still have the awesome experiences and stories to tell about our ordeals. That's all that really matters. But it would be nice to have a set of wings on my chest and a nice World Record plaque on your wall. But thems the breaks. Great catch, by the way. I'd take that over some silly wings any day. LOL
Someone else needs to start recording world records for fish. Still keeping it fully legitimate with checking video, measuring devices, line, etc. but without dumb rules like how many flies are on your line. If it is legal to use while fishing in the state you’re in then it’s not an issue. I would also keep all fish with a slot size off the list since the records can no longer be beaten or have all catch and release records and if you keep the fish you are disqualified.
Seems like more trouble than it is worth. Have released the state record cutthroat trout a couple times just because I don’t like paper work. And don’t really care about records fish because it is fun. Seems like that whole thing was not fun.
Jesus I don’t miss doing that, we did it for a yellow bass in 2013 , after that I just did the certified scale by them , it sucks to have to pay and send your scale into them to certify it. And as you know they don’t mind taking their time. You will know what to do next time and you will catch another man
Yeah, it’s pretty goofy that you have to have that in order to get the record for length. They will accept and certify any type of scale if you send it in but they won’t do the same for length?
Congratulations on the world record!!! We all watched you catch it.. Some things in life are made more difficult than they need to be. Just saying! Thanks for sharing..
Sorry Mike it crazy the hoops they make you jump through. We know you got the record. Hold your head high buddy. I missed out because of a scale issue. It Stinks.
They are more concerned on fines poachers. Two 70lbs plus stripers came out of San Luis lake in California and spotted bass too definetly record breakers! Cause no official scale I’m still mad for them!😡 Sucks!
Thanks for asking. Me and my family are ok. Theres lots flood damage to Elizabethton and surrounding areas. It will be a long recovery for East Tennessee and NC
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher Glad to hear that you and your family are safe. I plan to move to the area within the next couple of years (that is how I found your channel). Stay safe. And sorry about all the bureaucracy on “qualifying” your world record fish. She was a beaut though.
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher I am a Romanian and in this side of the planet the machinations are some like this : the big prize to be shared with the organisers of the prise. The one that takes the prize must be someone they know and it’s sure that after he give back their share.
Congratulations on a world record fish. You know it, I know it and all of your followers know it!!!! Don’t worry about the piece of paper. It truly is not worth all of the BS. Again,congratulations!
These "official records" mean nothing. It makes me wonder how many other record fish have been caught. BTW, selling your own measuring board as the only one accected in record fish would be a conflict of interest in a court of law.
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher just out of curiosity I'd like to know who holds the current record and if they have some sort of "agreement" with the entities that authenticate new records. It's a long shot but a conflict of interest has already been shown. Continuing to compensate the current record holder while having anyone shatter the old one may not yield the advertising results they want. Long shot but possible. There is a lot of corruption out there whenever money is involved.
Sorry it didn't work out for your fish. I think the IFGA world record system is bogus (particularly the line class and tippet class records), leads to a lot of irresponsible targeting of big fish with light line. I know that's not the case with your catch, but there are guys out there with 50+ IFGA "world records" that intentionally use inappropriately light line and just go around leaving flies stuck in the mouths of a bunch of fish before they finally catch one just to claim one of these silly world records.
@MichaelKaal-TriFisher me either bro. The exact same thing would happen to me and that's why I watched your video! If you push it to the state and threaten to sue them for discrimination they might back off and correct course. Keep fighting.
@MichaelKaal-TriFisher def changes my opinion of them. A record is a record and if taken legally it should be the record. I can understand their equipment regulations to some extent but theirs sound absurd. And the scale bs is just flat out ridiculous since they could have easily checked it against theirs.
Lemme tell ya . 30 min ago , I knew nothing of you , what you caught and more so how you caught it. Fella my heart goes out to ya. First off I think it's total BS the IGFA tells someone else about the results of your fish. We're talking the IGFA not some fish contest down at Joes bar n grill. On that, just me , I am real disappointed. I really thought that organization was better than that. Then to say oh there's a rule , just a slight little thing , you used two flies. You might could understand if it gave you a unfair advantage. I don't see it. My final answer there is they didn't want you to have it. Ok , had to take a smoke break , calm down. I thought about deleting this but thats not who I am and I stayed aboard so I won't say more on that but ask you how you happened to be using a fly rod and understand I know not where you were or target species. I'm a old fisherman that feels a connection to other fisher people especially those toting a fly rod. I always wanted to fish with one , like most it Intemadated me , unlike most I was too hard headed to quit. Finally some guys named Flip , Jose' , Stu and Ole Lefty gave me lessons. I applaud your effort , fortitude and your catch. Well done and pee on the IGFA.
Hahaahhaaa, bro I have 2 state line class records for Florida. I also have 5 rejection letters. Hahaahhaaa!!! Education about I.G.F.A. records is something earned. It was $35.oo for membership and $35ish for each application. I wish I could help you more. White rock are definitely fun. Florida we call them sunshine bass.
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Well that's ridiculous, we all know you caught the record so just because you had a different ruler and "2 flys" don't mean anything to us bro! You caught it and that's what matters! You're name may not be in the books but you know and we know you caught it 👏
Thanks, I appreciate that. It was definitely a special fish.
@MichaelKaal-TriFisher you're welcome buddy! It's was a great fish for sure!
Doesn’t sound like it’s even worth submitting . Congrats on a great catch ,
Thanks, it was a pain
You hold it now in my eyes mike. Great job at everything you always do. Fish On!
I appreciate it. I’m looking forward to getting back out on the water.
Yeah, I had seen a while back it was a very difficult process for IGFA records. Sorta sucks that you could at any time in your life, you might hook a potential world record but if you ain't got that exact board then you are screwed. You are the man, keep casting!!!
Yeah, it’s crazy. I appreciate it
I feel like the lesson here is that you caught the world record fish, and the IGFA is an organization I don’t ever want to deal with! You documented it, and they can go pound sand!!!
Yeah, I appreciate it.
everyone in the area knows youre the man anyways, you catch BIG fish. I live around the 423 and almost every fisherman ive met knows who and what you do. That was a monster fight and monster fish on that tackle, congrats on the landing even if you dont have the record, youve got it in all our hearts!
Thanks, I appreciate those kind words.
Sorry to hear that man. Love the videos and keep up the great work
Thanks, I appreciate it
You're the world record holder in my book Mike.
Thanks Jacob.
Piss on record books.
Sounds like a racket to me.
It feels like it.
They sound like a terrible organization! They were mad because you didn't buy their board. at least you know that you caught the record, and so do we!
Thanks, I appreciate your words.
That is crazy I can’t believe there are so many hoops that you have to go through. I know it would be nice to have your name in the book but at least you, Patrick and all your subscribers know you caught the world record fish regardless of all those pieces of red tape!! Such an incredible fish for sure!
Thanks, I appreciate those words. Means a lot.
Sorry you got ripped off for the record but for all it's worth huge congratulations 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thanks
This makes all their records seem worthless. Nobody can tell what the actual biggest catches were when so many potential records are ignored or dismissed.
Yeah. I agree
Screw their rules. TH-cam is and will continue to be the proof for record fish. Especially on a double fly!? All around an incredible memory that you got on camera. Keep crushing it, Michael!
Thanks, I appreciate those words.
How absurd!. You know you caught it, we all know caught it.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Moral of the story, release potential records in your bathtub or swimming pool until it’s official! I hadn’t been getting notifications for your videos. I’m glad you made it through the hurricane!
Yeah, it’s all good. I’m glad you’re getting notifications again. I’m getting ready to do a load of kayak fishing on Boone lake
Actually I’m still not getting notifications. I just happened to realize I hadn’t seen anything from you and got worried after the storm and decided to look you up. I had been keeping you guys in my prayers. I had been relaying messages via ham radio for people cut off due to the hurricane. As you know it’s been a pretty stressful time for everyone in the area. I look forward to the new fishing videos. I always try to leave a comment & like the videos as it helps your channel. Tight lines! 👍
@@sirtango1 Well, thanks for looking me up and checking on me. I appreciate it.
Sorry you had to go through all that, Michael! In the end though, it's your personal world record, Even though it hurts! Congratulations buddy!
Thanks, I appreciate that.
So many hoops you went through. That's just crazy
Yeah, it’s definitely crazy. I think the thing that bugged me the most was just the amount of time that went by in between communication. But it’s all good.
Well IGFA just lost a member and a donor....I have long disagreed with some of their excessive rules and them not certifying your fish is a direct result of one of the rules. They really should consider the laws of the state in which the fish was caught.
Thanks, I appreciate that. Definitely a tough pill to swallow.
@MichaelKaal-TriFisher it most definitely is but we all know who has the real record
I feel your pain.
I went through Air Assault School in Hawaii when I was stationed at Schofield Barracks. It's 2 grueling weeks of very physical and mentally demanding torture. On the final day you do a 12 mile road march carrying a standard 35 lb. rucksack. I was a Forward Observer used to carrying double that weight, so it wasn't a big deal. But it's still a 12 mile road march after getting your ass kicked for 2 weeks.
When the march if finished you line up and the instructors go through each rucksack to make sure that you were carrying the equipment that was on the list they gave us prior to the march. I had everything... except my ink pen... which my wife had borrowed the night before (without me knowing) and failed to return it. So I was failed.
It was over 25 years ago but I still feel that disappointment in my stomach. It sucked so bad. But I know that, minus one ink pen, I'm Air Assault qualified. I'm also divorced from that woman. ;-)
Wow, that’s crazy that they failed you for missing a pen. Crazy how these silly rules can affect an epic moment.
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher Rules are rules, and as much as I was mad at my wife back then, it was my responsibility to check for that pen before I started the march. It sucks, just like your ordeal. But we both still have the awesome experiences and stories to tell about our ordeals. That's all that really matters. But it would be nice to have a set of wings on my chest and a nice World Record plaque on your wall. But thems the breaks.
Great catch, by the way. I'd take that over some silly wings any day. LOL
Sounds like typical incompetent people deciding this stuff
Yeah, who knows. Definitely not a great experience.
Someone else needs to start recording world records for fish. Still keeping it fully legitimate with checking video, measuring devices, line, etc. but without dumb rules like how many flies are on your line. If it is legal to use while fishing in the state you’re in then it’s not an issue. I would also keep all fish with a slot size off the list since the records can no longer be beaten or have all catch and release records and if you keep the fish you are disqualified.
Yeah, that goofy rule about the flies will definitely haunt me.
Seems like more trouble than it is worth. Have released the state record cutthroat trout a couple times just because I don’t like paper work. And don’t really care about records fish because it is fun. Seems like that whole thing was not fun.
Yes, after the initial catch everything else was very stressful and prolonged.
Jesus I don’t miss doing that, we did it for a yellow bass in 2013 , after that I just did the certified scale by them , it sucks to have to pay and send your scale into them to certify it. And as you know they don’t mind taking their time. You will know what to do next time and you will catch another man
Yeah, it’s a pain jumping through all those hoops. There will be more attempts in the future.
what fisherman has the IFGA certified measuring board on their boat? I've been fishing for 35 years. I don't have one?
Yeah, it’s pretty goofy that you have to have that in order to get the record for length. They will accept and certify any type of scale if you send it in but they won’t do the same for length?
Congratulations on the world record!!! We all watched you catch it..
Some things in life are made more difficult than they need to be. Just saying!
Thanks for sharing..
Thanks, I appreciate it
This is exactly why people always say that world record doesn't sound like it's as big as such and such fish that was caught
Yep
Sorry to hear you didn't get the world record Midchael. You'll get another shot!
Thanks, I appreciate it.
By the way, very sorry Michael, you were quite simply ROBBED of the record. We know the truth.
I appreciate it.
You caught the fish by legal means. It’s your record. You should’ve kept the fish, it is close to the end of its life anyway.
I’m not a huge fan of keeping fish that big. Usually there’s too much mercury built up in their system.
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher I meant to mount😁
Oh I see.
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Sorry Mike it crazy the hoops they make you jump through. We know you got the record. Hold your head high buddy. I missed out because of a scale issue. It Stinks.
Yeah, it does stink, but it’s all good. It was still an awesome fish to catch.
They are more concerned on fines poachers. Two 70lbs plus stripers came out of San Luis lake in California and spotted bass too definetly record breakers! Cause no official scale I’m still mad for them!😡 Sucks!
Yeah, it’s painful
So stupid, they make it soo hard, just post the fish, weight, length and put world record so it shows up in Google images
I agree, it’s very frustrating
Sounds like a straight up scam. Unfortunate and great catch
Yeah, It feels that way. Thanks
You know you got the record man
Yeah, I appreciate it
Hey man, are you ok? I know your area got hit hard by Helene. Prayers for your community!
Thanks for asking. Me and my family are ok. Theres lots flood damage to Elizabethton and surrounding areas. It will be a long recovery for East Tennessee and NC
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher Glad to hear that you and your family are safe. I plan to move to the area within the next couple of years (that is how I found your channel). Stay safe. And sorry about all the bureaucracy on “qualifying” your world record fish. She was a beaut though.
Those people…. Looks like corruption to me
Who knows, definitely was not a fun experience jumping through so many hoops to be denied.
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher I am a Romanian and in this side of the planet the machinations are some like this : the big prize to be shared with the organisers of the prise. The one that takes the prize must be someone they know and it’s sure that after he give back their share.
The IGFA is a joke and it's a damn shame we as the fishing community allow them to be our record-keeping organization.
It’s was definitely a bad experience
Congratulations on a world record fish. You know it, I know it and all of your followers know it!!!! Don’t worry about the piece of paper. It truly is not worth all of the BS. Again,congratulations!
Thanks, I appreciate that.
What kind of fish and how big was it?
Catching a world record fish (IGFA FLY FISHING RECORD)
th-cam.com/video/xfkhu36V9_A/w-d-xo.html
Maybe it takes two flies to catch a fish of that nature. They should have a new category.
Agreed
There's like 1000 videos like this we will never know the true record
Yep
That is an actual rule so it makes sense. The rest of your IGFA experience is BS. Thanks for video
Yeah, overall not a great experience. It is what it is.
Where is the video of the actual catch of this fish?
Catching a world record fish (IGFA FLY FISHING RECORD)
th-cam.com/video/xfkhu36V9_A/w-d-xo.html
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher Thanks!!!
These "official records" mean nothing.
It makes me wonder how many other record fish have been caught.
BTW, selling your own measuring board as the only one accected in record fish would be a conflict of interest in a court of law.
Yeah, it seems fishy that people can send in a scale to be authenticated but not a measuring stick because it didn’t have their logo on it. Very odd.
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher just out of curiosity I'd like to know who holds the current record and if they have some sort of "agreement" with the entities that authenticate new records. It's a long shot but a conflict of interest has already been shown.
Continuing to compensate the current record holder while having anyone shatter the old one may not yield the advertising results they want.
Long shot but possible.
There is a lot of corruption out there whenever money is involved.
daayyyyummm, thats like loosing a world fastest record foot race because you wore the wrong color shoe laces....
Feels like it
Also what fish was it and video?
Catching a world record fish (IGFA FLY FISHING RECORD)
th-cam.com/video/xfkhu36V9_A/w-d-xo.html
What kind of fish was it what lake
Catching a world record fish (IGFA FLY FISHING RECORD)
th-cam.com/video/xfkhu36V9_A/w-d-xo.html
It was a hybrid bass
man that sucks
Yeah, not great
did you release it?
Yes
Sorry it didn't work out for your fish. I think the IFGA world record system is bogus (particularly the line class and tippet class records), leads to a lot of irresponsible targeting of big fish with light line. I know that's not the case with your catch, but there are guys out there with 50+ IFGA "world records" that intentionally use inappropriately light line and just go around leaving flies stuck in the mouths of a bunch of fish before they finally catch one just to claim one of these silly world records.
Yeah, it feels like a goofy system
Hope they didn't take the fun out of fishing.❤
No, still happy about Fishing. Just disappointed I didn’t get the record.
I assume you got the State Record for Hybrid?
No, this was just for a fly fishing world record.
That sucks. 2 flies is a dumb reason. Just my opinion
I 100% agree with you.
DNR for the states is tens better than the IGFA is for record keeping.
Agreed
You need a lawyer!
Yeah, can’t really afford one.
@MichaelKaal-TriFisher me either bro. The exact same thing would happen to me and that's why I watched your video! If you push it to the state and threaten to sue them for discrimination they might back off and correct course. Keep fighting.
What a joke. Sounds like their record books aren't really legit if they're not accepting records over bs technicalities.
Yeah, it’s left a bad taste of my mouth. Doesn’t feel nearly as important now that I understand what’s going on behind the curtains.
@MichaelKaal-TriFisher def changes my opinion of them. A record is a record and if taken legally it should be the record. I can understand their equipment regulations to some extent but theirs sound absurd. And the scale bs is just flat out ridiculous since they could have easily checked it against theirs.
Exactly
Can’t you challenge this in Court ?
No idea.
First you gotta catch the fish
Catching a world record fish (IGFA FLY FISHING RECORD)
th-cam.com/video/xfkhu36V9_A/w-d-xo.html
@@MichaelKaal-TriFisher it was a joke. That’s an amazing catch tho man!!! Congratulations hope it pull through for you
who made them keeper of the records? stupid rules
Yeah, it was a poorly managed process based on my experience.
huge pain in the butt is what it is,
Yep
They cheated you.they cheated you why .why you they cheat.
Yep
You got scammed
Feels that way
So you can’t have 2 flies, but there are world records that are fed fish. Dumb.
Yep
Lemme tell ya . 30 min ago , I knew nothing of you , what you caught and more so how you caught it. Fella my heart goes out to ya. First off I think it's total BS the IGFA tells someone else about the results of your fish. We're talking the IGFA not some fish contest down at Joes bar n grill. On that, just me , I am real disappointed. I really thought that organization was better than that.
Then to say oh there's a rule , just a slight little thing , you used two flies. You might could understand if it gave you a unfair advantage. I don't see it. My final answer there is they didn't want you to have it.
Ok , had to take a smoke break , calm down. I thought about deleting this but thats not who I am and I stayed aboard so I won't say more on that but ask you how you happened to be using a fly rod and understand I know not where you were or target species. I'm a old fisherman that feels a connection to other fisher people especially those toting a fly rod. I always wanted to fish with one , like most it Intemadated me , unlike most I was too hard headed to quit. Finally some guys named Flip , Jose' , Stu and Ole Lefty gave me lessons. I applaud your effort , fortitude and your catch. Well done and pee on the IGFA.
Yeah, the part where they told someone else about the results before me was definitely a low blow. I appreciate your comments
Hahaahhaaa, bro I have 2 state line class records for Florida. I also have 5 rejection letters. Hahaahhaaa!!!
Education about I.G.F.A. records is something earned. It was $35.oo for membership and $35ish for each application. I wish I could help you more. White rock are definitely fun. Florida we call them sunshine bass.
Yeah, out here we call them hybrid bass.
The states are far better record keepers anyways.
Igfa records are rackteering, baciaslly a scam. Buy our suff you don't get a record.....>.>...
Sounds like someone got paid off ! 🫡🇺🇲
Definitely frustrating