He executed the siu Nim Tao beautifully. There are many styles of Siu Nim Tao, he performed the original style. He Shorten it by skipping some parts but it was well done.
Donnie Yen values his background in his traditional training. he believes that it provides him with a very solid foundation that he used to become what he is today.
There are many variations of Wing Chun. I train Wing Chun as well and what Donny does is different from what I learn, but I've seen this version as well. Totally valid.
As of the publishing of this video, Donnie Yen has been practicing Wing Chun for only about four to five years. And as his teacher, Ip Chun, has said, he's a pretty fast learner. And, jesus, you can see why he was cast to portray Ip Man. His hands move so goddamn fast.
Check out iron monkey from the nineties. He certainly rivels Bruce Lee and Adam Chan in speed. Not many practitioners can match Bruce's and explosiveness except maybe some og karateka.
Wing Chun is essentially a refined woman's self defense class. How good anyone is in any art is dependent on the person, their teacher(s), their understanding of what they're learning, and their understanding of how and when to apply what they know.
Love to read that. So many morons are out there thinking that just cause they’ve seen loads of UFC fights, that makes them qualified to comment. You’re absolutely right
Praise humanity their are still more people like you. So many close minded people to not research the information they see in front of them before judging.. I am a Wing Chun practitioner and from the Yip Man lineage and learned through Grandmaster Ip Chun, Wong Shun Leung, and Simon lou and then settling with Grandmaster Steve lee Swift as I live in America Now. Is refreshing and happy to hear words from another well developed, mature mind. Best of luck and praises.
In Vietnamese language ( language in Vietnam , my country ) . This skill Siu Nim Tao of Donnie Yen call is Tiểu Niệm Đầu . A important skill in Wing Chun Kung Fu .
Sparring is a tool to teach you how to fight, more accurately, to hone the techniques you have learned, read incoming attacks but most importantly learn to spot flaws, repititions or patterns in your opposition. Sparring is fighting, but its like the diet coke of fighting. Fighting isn't always done in anger, war or self defense. Sometimes its used as a test of skill or for sharing techniques with the pain to show you how it feels before you do it to someone else. Glad I could teach you. :)
Actually brothers...he used the Modified WC Form. The Great GrandMaster Ip Man taught both. I am training for my level 6 in Traditional WC but know of the aspects of Modified as well. Ip Man was great at both! Thank him for bringing WC to the world. It is a powerful art!
I see your point, but wing chun teach to attack and defend at the same time. So whilst it generate less power than a boxing punch, it takes less power to defend against one. So it is to attack, but not to leave yourself open to attacks at the same time where they teach to guard your centerline. The leg triangle also functions like a wedge, where the harder they are punched, the harder it is to make them fall (given that they defend of course).
One who excels as a warrior does not appear formidable; One who excels in fighting is never roused in anger; One who excels in defeating his enemy does not join issue; One who excels in employing others humbles himself before them.
There are many many schools who practice weak/improper wing chun. The punch should never be in the shoulder, they give no power. Likewise movement is from the upper arm, powered by the body muscles like the lats, and the hips and waist and legs. This is harder because Wing Chun wants to keep a strong grounded base, however it can be done. If any teacher says you should just hit with only your shoulder immediately question that, it is encouraging you to be weak when you can be strong.
the form is meant for practicing the movements and the flexibility of your wrist. comparing the Wing Chun practice movement to a real fight would be the same as saying doing push-ups and stretching your legs isn't effective. While both are ineffectice in a real fight, both are used to practice.
wow his form looks pretty cool a bit fast but, tv. anywho, he looks like he practices and i'm glad he's helping spread the little idea, sound effects were funny.
Sparring is roughly 80% to the body, 60% to the head so you still get pain and impact as well as conditioning. The difference is only the amount of force used and the goal you are trying to reach. If you spar in the street in front of a cop, you will get arrested for fighting.
@IgnitionFilmsz™| We are the change. JKD was Bruce Lee's interpretation of Kung Fu / Wing Chun. Dont copy your teachers Kung Fu, learn from your sifu and make the kungfu to your own interpretation. Your Sifu is a different person you are a different person. :)
what you mean is wing chun's power does not come from strength but the form, position and balance. Thats why he stands like that, that form has the three triangles. The legs, the body, and the arms. That is the way the creator of wing chun gains the upper hand against a fight with a man. So when a man uses wing chun, forms plus power... you do the math :D
Come on....... Of course some parts where skipped and he sped it up and made it a lil flashy. It was a demo for TV. If you've seen Siu Nim Tao done properly it takes a few minutes longer to complete and its nothing much to look at.. So think for a second you stooges.
Richard Dantz he has to hide a few moves out of respect for his sifu. Only REAL win chun practicers, like yourself, could point it out. I thought it was wise of him-
@shahmeer khalid Most "sifu's" do not want just ANYONE copying their work. So to prevent copying, you will notice some moves that aren't shown; out of respect for their master/trainer.
@@jvedrine nah b he did the whole thing. The thing consists of 13 moves and they were all there. Plus IP man made a video of the complete thing before he died that's been plastered all over TH-cam since the movie came out. Its a very simple form that teaches you the most important moves in the system. There's no secret and nothing hidden.
@@itsallaroundyou7085 Ask any practitioner. Place Donnie side-by-side with the grandmaster. Observe. You will THEN see what i mentioned. Don't forget, the camera cuts away from time-to-time. You see MOST of it; but NOT from start to finish-
It's because proper Siu Nim Tao takes time to be performed, plus as you said, Donnie Yen is not a Wing Chun practitionner, only 8 months practice for the Ip Man movies.
its circular because its circular? wow dude great analysis. my argument has a point. the point is that martial artist who aren't famous at fighting can be just as good as those who are. just because donnie yen or any body else dont enter tournaments doesnt mean they dont know what they're doing. if that was true then 90% of people who practice martial arts are wasting their time.
Neils, maybe you are right... i see so many people that have a video taken with Yip Man or his son to later display these video as if the were long time student of the masters. If history is correct, this is what happened with the late Bruce Lee. ip man was not interested in teaching him. i was taught by Sifu Tam li and Sifu Paul Ma and the forms were done very slowly i never seen my Sifus rushing any part of the forms. this is why i commented...
This is a common problem with many wing chun practitioners, but a "proper" wing chun punch is very similar to a boxing punch and should be similar in power. This is because like boxing the power is generated from the feet and waist, using a turn of the body to propel the fist not just the arm. Anything less than this is not the fault of the style only the student or their Sifu.
Bruce Lee was not solely an actor. He had a big career in full contact fighting when younger and had a lot of challenge fights when older. All of which is well documented because . . get this . . he was famous and therefor under the microscope. There are a lot of great fighters who arent famous and their full contact records from various circuits are all available. Heres a Fun Fact, Donny isnt on any of them.
And your point of a drunk bob... unfortunately for that point, I was there when my friend used Wing Chun to fight off a Marine at a party who got too crazy and picked a fight. A marine! Maybe it was just that guy, but my friend still held him off with no damage to himself. Again, Wing Chun is street survival. It's women's self defense. You "saw" how it works, but you don't know how it works. Unfortunately, many WC practitioners don't know how it works either.
Well, heheh It takes lots of practice and the rigidness comes from the discipline which doesn't allow the shoulder to be lifted up etc. to compliment the fighting style. Boxing also teaches to tuck your chin, lift your shoulders etc. right? so they are in someway the same. Its not fair for us to say one is better than the other. They are different fighting styles that has different disciplines and focusses on different aspect of fighting.
a person doesnt have to be in any circuits or fighting tournaments to fight. just because you dont have evidence or record of him not fighting doesnt mean he doesnt. also because he knows quite a lot of martial arts, he does spar and fight. did you know he does judo, brazilian jujitsu, muay thai, wing chun, MMA, kickboxing, and other styles to varying degrees?
In all actuality if Donnie could be in a tournament (specifically speaking the UFC) he would. He just doesn't because he has a recurring shoulder injury, which doesn't allow him to compete in leagues and tournaments etc. And sparring is fighting. It's just not to knockout. It's physical contact with punches, kicks, and whatever else you want to throw in there. It really doesn't look like you know what you're talking about after reading all of your comments. SOrry but I just had to vent on this 1
thats not what you meant in your previous comment. you were saying that if he was an actual fighter we would know, that would mean he would have to be a famous fighter, which of course he's not a famous fighter, hes a movie star. However that doesnt mean he doesnt fight or spar. Most martial artists in the world arent famous, but that doesnt mean they're bad fighters.
Hi, actually that isn't how the form ought to be done. In fact, almost the entire community of Wing Chun got it wrong. If you have time, feel free to read up the articles on my blog.
Since it is one of the most common words in MA's the only reason to misspell it is to not know it. You have never been to a martial art class, period . . no blackboard or excuses. The closest you would have come is watch an intro class. (If you managed to kill your fear of the sun long enough to be outside and away from your COD)
"Did I say sparring was fighting?" Yes, you did when you made this statement. "And sparring is fighting. It's just not to knockout." Sparring doesnt even teach you to fight. It helps you build technique and cardio etc, but it cant teach you how to fight. The only way to learn how to fight is to fight. You cant learn to swim by getting on the floor. The WuShu tournament he entered in the states (when he was a teenager) was for PERFORMANCE WuShu. He has been in no other tournaments ever.
Donnie Yen is good, may be the best martial artist in Hong Kong film industry today. But He's not a Wing Chun practitionner, He only had 8 months training for the Ip Man movies and it's impressive how He nailed the role. This Sui Lim Tao is not performed properly, it's too fast (for the purpose of the show I guess) and some moves are wrong. Still, Donnie Yen is a special martial artist and a good actor in the same time (which is rare).
Did I say sparring was fighting? That was my bad. I meant that sparring teaches you to fight. I did say that you're not going for a knockout or death. So you got me there. But you have no right calling me an idiot. He has been in at least one tournament that we know of, and that was obviously the Wushu tournament held here in the states. Whether or not he was in others for his kickboxing or BJJ is unknown to me. He knows how to fight. How well and to what extent he does know is really unknown.
It's not about techniques, but about principles. All WC/WT/VT family follows quite the same principles, so if someone does form which looks differently, we still can see if he is good or not, mostly,
Sure the movie is fake, but he does train his body to fight. Most people start martial arts to learn how to fight. Through training comes skill and he's been training for a long time dude.
Yes sparring isn't fighting if you don't use your mind and you are half assing it. You spar wrong. Boxers still use strategy and technique when sparring. You still try to outsmart and out step your opponent. its not just standing there hitting each other.
You know, in a show, that's enough, we don't need to see more. Besides, you and i both know that if we practice the real Siu Nim Tao, we're gonna have to practice it longer, slower, more specific and more accurate!
I've never been in a tournament, does that mean I'm a bad fighter? Most masters don't enter tournaments does that mean they're bad fighters? Being known as a fighter doesn't necessarily mean you're a good fighter, and not being known as a good fighter doesn't mean you're a bad one either. You wouldn't tell an assailant that you have a gun, so why would you tell him you can fight?
cont BTW, muscle memory is learned a lot of ways. A motorcycle rider learns it through experience on the seat, the driver behind the wheel. Do you know how they learn to be good riders and drivers? By riding and driving. Not by "practicing" on a video game. A guitarist learns by playing a guitar. A fire juggler learns by juggling fire. A fighter learns to fight by fighting. Its that simple.
Im not saying he doesnt train. Im saying that he doesnt use his training in a practical way. You learn by doing, you cant learn to fight by training alone. One thing has remained constant in martial arts. To learn to fight you have to fight. Otherwise, you are just exercising.
so why can't donnie be good? just because he's not in the ufc or some famous fighting ring doesn't mean he's not a good fighter. by the way if you noticed in my comments ive never been rude enough to call you an idiot. you can tell how good a fighter is by how polite he is as well.
I remember seeing a picture of Donnie Yen demonstrating bong sau, and by God he was way off. Someone made a comment on his posture and for being off centered. thanks Neils i appreciate your response.
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The speed and accuracy in his moves are incredible and inspiring. I like to watch Donnie Yen in action. =
He executed the siu Nim Tao beautifully. There are many styles of Siu Nim Tao, he performed the original style. He Shorten it by skipping some parts but it was well done.
I saw no parts skipped at all, he sped up the Fuk Sau section but that's obviously for tv
Thats not the original form
There is nothing to admit about Donnie Yen my friend, just watch him and enjoy what He does :)
This guy is already a master to me :)
met Donnie Yen just randomly doing some shopping nice chap !! he is well trained and definitely has charisma and flair to him!!
Donnie Yen values his background in his traditional training. he believes that it provides him with a very solid foundation that he used to become what he is today.
There are many variations of Wing Chun. I train Wing Chun as well and what Donny does is different from what I learn, but I've seen this version as well. Totally valid.
As of the publishing of this video, Donnie Yen has been practicing Wing Chun for only about four to five years. And as his teacher, Ip Chun, has said, he's a pretty fast learner. And, jesus, you can see why he was cast to portray Ip Man. His hands move so goddamn fast.
Check out iron monkey from the nineties. He certainly rivels Bruce Lee and Adam Chan in speed. Not many practitioners can match Bruce's and explosiveness except maybe some og karateka.
According to Ip Chun, Donnie Yen grasped the full concept of Wing Chun faster than anyone else he has taught
@@michaelbalance98 like ip man and Bruce Lee lol
@@ominously2574 Really?
0:34 when you realize you forgot your dog in the car
Hahah lol
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Wing Chun is essentially a refined woman's self defense class.
How good anyone is in any art is dependent on the person, their teacher(s), their understanding of what they're learning, and their understanding of how and when to apply what they know.
Love to read that. So many morons are out there thinking that just cause they’ve seen loads of UFC fights, that makes them qualified to comment. You’re absolutely right
Praise humanity their are still more people like you.
So many close minded people to not research the information they see in front of them before judging..
I am a Wing Chun practitioner and from the Yip Man lineage and learned through Grandmaster Ip Chun, Wong Shun Leung, and Simon lou and then settling with Grandmaster Steve lee Swift as I live in America Now. Is refreshing and happy to hear words from another well developed, mature mind. Best of luck and praises.
In Vietnamese language ( language in Vietnam , my country ) .
This skill Siu Nim Tao of Donnie Yen call is Tiểu Niệm Đầu .
A important skill in Wing Chun Kung Fu .
Sparring is a tool to teach you how to fight, more accurately, to hone the techniques you have learned, read incoming attacks but most importantly learn to spot flaws, repititions or patterns in your opposition. Sparring is fighting, but its like the diet coke of fighting. Fighting isn't always done in anger, war or self defense. Sometimes its used as a test of skill or for sharing techniques with the pain to show you how it feels before you do it to someone else. Glad I could teach you. :)
Let's remember that he is on a show and they have a limited amount of time... He had to rush through it.
Kaptionist not only that, but he can't reveal the COMPLETE form, out if respect for his sifu
Jimmy Vee well this was complete form. Its like the most elementary think, every wing chun practitioner learns.
Dlugi I've practiced for 7+ years. I can tell you for fact, there's more; it's subtle, but noticeable. I'm more than sure Donnie is aware
Actually brothers...he used the Modified WC Form. The Great GrandMaster Ip Man taught both. I am training for my level 6 in Traditional WC but know of the aspects of Modified as well. Ip Man was great at both! Thank him for bringing WC to the world. It is a powerful art!
Donnie is the man! i gotta get me a jacket that makes noises like that when i move around!
very nice!!!!!! superb
i like it
Donnie yen is a true Master . Thank You , Sir ;Pastor Greg Morilla
Excellent performance of siu lim tau.
I like the "Swoosh" sound effects.. LOL.
I see your point, but wing chun teach to attack and defend at the same time. So whilst it generate less power than a boxing punch, it takes less power to defend against one. So it is to attack, but not to leave yourself open to attacks at the same time where they teach to guard your centerline. The leg triangle also functions like a wedge, where the harder they are punched, the harder it is to make them fall (given that they defend of course).
Donnie Yen u are the reasen why i started with Wing chung
I agree. That's the Yip Chun's siu nim tau. Which I learnt as well.
Love the sound effects they added on here, and the look on the guy's face @ 0:34 is priceless!
One who excels as a warrior does not appear formidable;
One who excels in fighting is never roused in anger;
One who excels in defeating his enemy does not join issue;
One who excels in employing others humbles himself before them.
There are many many schools who practice weak/improper wing chun. The punch should never be in the shoulder, they give no power. Likewise movement is from the upper arm, powered by the body muscles like the lats, and the hips and waist and legs. This is harder because Wing Chun wants to keep a strong grounded base, however it can be done. If any teacher says you should just hit with only your shoulder immediately question that, it is encouraging you to be weak when you can be strong.
Partially correct. OJKD and JFJKD both hold Wing Chun, Western Boxing, and Fencing as the cornerstones on Lee's JKD.
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the form is meant for practicing the movements and the flexibility of your wrist. comparing the Wing Chun practice movement to a real fight would be the same as saying doing push-ups and stretching your legs isn't effective. While both are ineffectice in a real fight, both are used to practice.
It's not the jacket that makes noises. It's the force in his hands that makes the jacket make the noise.
wow his form looks pretty cool a bit fast but, tv. anywho, he looks like he practices and i'm glad he's helping spread the little idea, sound effects were funny.
Sparring is roughly 80% to the body, 60% to the head so you still get pain and impact as well as conditioning. The difference is only the amount of force used and the goal you are trying to reach. If you spar in the street in front of a cop, you will get arrested for fighting.
yeah that's the cinema form ;) Very nice to look at :)
@IgnitionFilmsz™| We are the change. JKD was Bruce Lee's interpretation of Kung Fu / Wing Chun. Dont copy your teachers Kung Fu, learn from your sifu and make the kungfu to your own interpretation. Your Sifu is a different person you are a different person. :)
I agree, too fast, but it's like you said...with it being a live TV show with only so much air time, they probably asked him to speed it up.
what you mean is wing chun's power does not come from strength but the form, position and balance. Thats why he stands like that, that form has the three triangles. The legs, the body, and the arms. That is the way the creator of wing chun gains the upper hand against a fight with a man. So when a man uses wing chun, forms plus power... you do the math :D
nice one! So pity, that I don't understeand what they said. I am doing Wing Tsun for few years, so I can tell, he is very good!
original wing chun form not use power it’s going on very relaxing 😌
people need to remember that this is just a small demonstration on a tv show
i think the sound fx makes it good
gotta admit Wing Chun is really fun! he's into it.
you`re right but thats not the only thing. The different is the Style for example Ip Man Style, Yuen Kay Shan Style and others...
Come on....... Of course some parts where skipped and he sped it up and made it a lil flashy. It was a demo for TV. If you've seen Siu Nim Tao done properly it takes a few minutes longer to complete and its nothing much to look at.. So think for a second you stooges.
Richard Dantz he has to hide a few moves out of respect for his sifu. Only REAL win chun practicers, like yourself, could point it out. I thought it was wise of him-
@shahmeer khalid Most "sifu's" do not want just ANYONE copying their work. So to prevent copying, you will notice some moves that aren't shown; out of respect for their master/trainer.
@@jvedrine nah b he did the whole thing. The thing consists of 13 moves and they were all there. Plus IP man made a video of the complete thing before he died that's been plastered all over TH-cam since the movie came out. Its a very simple form that teaches you the most important moves in the system. There's no secret and nothing hidden.
@@itsallaroundyou7085 Ask any practitioner. Place Donnie side-by-side with the grandmaster. Observe. You will THEN see what i mentioned. Don't forget, the camera cuts away from time-to-time. You see MOST of it; but NOT from start to finish-
yeah and to add on to that almost all of us here spell 'sui lim tao' differently, but none of us are wrong, it is just how we learned to spell it.
It's because proper Siu Nim Tao takes time to be performed, plus as you said, Donnie Yen is not a Wing Chun practitionner, only 8 months practice for the Ip Man movies.
woahh!great!like real ip man!
its circular because its circular? wow dude great analysis. my argument has a point. the point is that martial artist who aren't famous at fighting can be just as good as those who are. just because donnie yen or any body else dont enter tournaments doesnt mean they dont know what they're doing. if that was true then 90% of people who practice martial arts are wasting their time.
He did it to powerful. Siu Nim Tao is not for a fight it's for relaxing
Let's just say one of Ip Man's first students Wong Leung is very popularly known as "King of Street Fights".
that goes both ways. just because he's a actor who does kung fu movies doesnt mean his skill is fake
Neils, maybe you are right... i see so many people that have a video taken with Yip Man or his son to later display these video as if the were long time student of the masters. If history is correct, this is what happened with the late Bruce Lee. ip man was not interested in teaching him. i was taught by Sifu Tam li and Sifu Paul Ma and the forms were done very slowly i never seen my Sifus rushing any part of the forms. this is why i commented...
This is a common problem with many wing chun practitioners, but a "proper" wing chun punch is very similar to a boxing punch and should be similar in power. This is because like boxing the power is generated from the feet and waist, using a turn of the body to propel the fist not just the arm. Anything less than this is not the fault of the style only the student or their Sifu.
He is Donnie Yen, I can't pretend I know better than He does :)
I want his Suit..... it makes awesome noises...
great move from donnie yen...
I agree with every word you said :)
Bruce Lee was not solely an actor. He had a big career in full contact fighting when younger and had a lot of challenge fights when older. All of which is well documented because . . get this . . he was famous and therefor under the microscope.
There are a lot of great fighters who arent famous and their full contact records from various circuits are all available. Heres a Fun Fact, Donny isnt on any of them.
No, just perform it as it should be performed. At a reasonable and consistent pace. It is done like that for a very good core reason in WC.
I love how it is Chinese, and subtitled in Chinese... so... thanks? :D
And your point of a drunk bob... unfortunately for that point, I was there when my friend used Wing Chun to fight off a Marine at a party who got too crazy and picked a fight. A marine! Maybe it was just that guy, but my friend still held him off with no damage to himself.
Again, Wing Chun is street survival. It's women's self defense. You "saw" how it works, but you don't know how it works. Unfortunately, many WC practitioners don't know how it works either.
Well, heheh It takes lots of practice and the rigidness comes from the discipline which doesn't allow the shoulder to be lifted up etc. to compliment the fighting style. Boxing also teaches to tuck your chin, lift your shoulders etc. right? so they are in someway the same. Its not fair for us to say one is better than the other. They are different fighting styles that has different disciplines and focusses on different aspect of fighting.
a person doesnt have to be in any circuits or fighting tournaments to fight. just because you dont have evidence or record of him not fighting doesnt mean he doesnt. also because he knows quite a lot of martial arts, he does spar and fight. did you know he does judo, brazilian jujitsu, muay thai, wing chun, MMA, kickboxing, and other styles to varying degrees?
I used to. Now I teach.
Sifu Donnie Yen thank you.
In all actuality if Donnie could be in a tournament (specifically speaking the UFC) he would. He just doesn't because he has a recurring shoulder injury, which doesn't allow him to compete in leagues and tournaments etc. And sparring is fighting. It's just not to knockout. It's physical contact with punches, kicks, and whatever else you want to throw in there. It really doesn't look like you know what you're talking about after reading all of your comments. SOrry but I just had to vent on this 1
thats not what you meant in your previous comment. you were saying that if he was an actual fighter we would know, that would mean he would have to be a famous fighter, which of course he's not a famous fighter, hes a movie star. However that doesnt mean he doesnt fight or spar. Most martial artists in the world arent famous, but that doesnt mean they're bad fighters.
Does that perfectly
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Hi, actually that isn't how the form ought to be done. In fact, almost the entire community of Wing Chun got it wrong. If you have time, feel free to read up the articles on my blog.
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Since it is one of the most common words in MA's the only reason to misspell it is to not know it. You have never been to a martial art class, period . . no blackboard or excuses. The closest you would have come is watch an intro class. (If you managed to kill your fear of the sun long enough to be outside and away from your COD)
play creed mary's blood in background and see how u like it.
you are beautifull , longlife to win chun , yeah !!?
"Did I say sparring was fighting?"
Yes, you did when you made this statement.
"And sparring is fighting. It's just not to knockout."
Sparring doesnt even teach you to fight. It helps you build technique and cardio etc, but it cant teach you how to fight. The only way to learn how to fight is to fight. You cant learn to swim by getting on the floor.
The WuShu tournament he entered in the states (when he was a teenager) was for PERFORMANCE WuShu. He has been in no other tournaments ever.
Donnie Yen is good, may be the best martial artist in Hong Kong film industry today.
But He's not a Wing Chun practitionner, He only had 8 months training for the Ip Man movies and it's impressive how He nailed the role.
This Sui Lim Tao is not performed properly, it's too fast (for the purpose of the show I guess) and some moves are wrong. Still, Donnie Yen is a special martial artist and a good actor in the same time (which is rare).
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I did take it into account, otherwise my original statement wouldnt have addressed that. Still argument for arguments sake. LOL.
Did I say sparring was fighting? That was my bad. I meant that sparring teaches you to fight. I did say that you're not going for a knockout or death. So you got me there. But you have no right calling me an idiot.
He has been in at least one tournament that we know of, and that was obviously the Wushu tournament held here in the states. Whether or not he was in others for his kickboxing or BJJ is unknown to me. He knows how to fight. How well and to what extent he does know is really unknown.
wow its great, he makes with a lot of power :) but for relaxing do it not with power :D. But very nice mr yen, very nice.
donnie yen the beast!!!
It's not about techniques, but about principles. All WC/WT/VT family follows quite the same principles, so if someone does form which looks differently, we still can see if he is good or not, mostly,
Sure the movie is fake, but he does train his body to fight. Most people start martial arts to learn how to fight. Through training comes skill and he's been training for a long time dude.
Yes sparring isn't fighting if you don't use your mind and you are half assing it. You spar wrong. Boxers still use strategy and technique when sparring. You still try to outsmart and out step your opponent. its not just standing there hitting each other.
You know, in a show, that's enough, we don't need to see more. Besides, you and i both know that if we practice the real Siu Nim Tao, we're gonna have to practice it longer, slower, more specific and more accurate!
I've never been in a tournament, does that mean I'm a bad fighter? Most masters don't enter tournaments does that mean they're bad fighters? Being known as a fighter doesn't necessarily mean you're a good fighter, and not being known as a good fighter doesn't mean you're a bad one either. You wouldn't tell an assailant that you have a gun, so why would you tell him you can fight?
Yeah, you're right, the Sui Lim Tao must be done nice and slow. You must feel every part of your body, especially your wrists.
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BTW, muscle memory is learned a lot of ways. A motorcycle rider learns it through experience on the seat, the driver behind the wheel. Do you know how they learn to be good riders and drivers? By riding and driving. Not by "practicing" on a video game. A guitarist learns by playing a guitar. A fire juggler learns by juggling fire.
A fighter learns to fight by fighting.
Its that simple.
Im not saying he doesnt train. Im saying that he doesnt use his training in a practical way. You learn by doing, you cant learn to fight by training alone.
One thing has remained constant in martial arts. To learn to fight you have to fight. Otherwise, you are just exercising.
he is doing the old style.
and damn ... he is that fast.
Tính tình giống Hiếu,Cực,Hạ Lâm..... Mark mạnh dzữ lắm.
Good, for movie star
Omg donnie does it better than yip man my ninja luv him
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so why can't donnie be good? just because he's not in the ufc or some famous fighting ring doesn't mean he's not a good fighter. by the way if you noticed in my comments ive never been rude enough to call you an idiot. you can tell how good a fighter is by how polite he is as well.
I remember seeing a picture of Donnie Yen demonstrating bong sau, and by God he was way off. Someone made a comment on his posture and for being off centered. thanks Neils i appreciate your response.