How To Tell If Your Motorcycle's Clutch Is Going Bad
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This is what happened to me. My Spring Plate blew up and it almost stranded me. I lost almost all power and felt like I was in 1st or 2nd gear the whole time. Such a shitty feeling. Hope this video helps some of you.
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When the bicycle is passing you, you know you have a problem
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😂 I was dying when I saw him blow past him
When ur clutch slips and u r far from home, shut off the bike, let it cool down for 15 mnts and it will ride fine for a while, then cool it again and so on. That's based on my exp with Ducatis and Honda's.
This explains why my failing clutch would work fine until it got to operating temperature.
Yeah this helps.. but only to just get you home and then get to the garage to service..
Bro I’m glad i saw this comment, my ducati is acting like that
Uhg. I went to practice for road test. After about 15 minutes of slow feathering and rear brake pressure for 'keep it loaded' my clutch would hardly digengage. Even pulled back full, it wouldn't even spring back to full closed. I immediately decided i best head home. Soon as i got on highway, cable pressure and clutch went back to normal. Wth?
I know it's been said already but thanks so much for posting this! It really helps to hear the sounds the bike was making and hear you describe the situation and what was going through your mind. Invaluable for new Sportster owners!
go back to the basement... IF you can drive a regular car... AKA 5 speed... not an automatic.. then you know if clutch is slipping, then it's going out.. but really even automatics, the bands will still slipping, you'll know it and beed to get out the VISA.😂
9:35 he figures it out it’s not the tune. Bad timing for the clutch to go so confusing for the guy. I would lose my mind. you kept your cool bro I’m impressed.
Most people under the age of forty have never driven a car with a clutch or windows that have to be rolled up. It is just the way it is, not a bad thing and not a good thing. A long time ago anyone who drove a car would at one time or another experience clutch slip and failure. The people who have been riding bikes since they were kids will also know what a slipping clutch feels like. This is a great video for all the people who have never experienced this kind of problem.
Absolutely, but my failure was all of a sudden and a click started first so I'm not sure if this is the same failure my 2017 WR250R experienced.
Suddenly couldn't shift, it was like I was always in neutral.
Thank you. I’m glad someone isn’t just shitting on the video. I know plenty of guys who wouldn’t know what’s going on if their clutch was slipping.
Thanks so much for the upload. I've had the same problems recently with my 2012 Victory Jackpot and my heart dropped because I thought I destroyed my bike, but its literally the same symptoms. Thanks a million!
this post will remain relevant for a long time. my assumptions were right about my nightster1200. same problem. thank you for posting this most stressful ride as you are/continue to help fellow riders everyday.
Interesting note in a really late comment but i can almost hear the clutchpack through the sound of the bike like a softish metal on metal sound which was subtle but relevant to that loss of power, glad though that you've settled the problem down man, always awesome to see somebody riding and having fun, even if some days aren't as fun, Stay vigilant dude, you're awesome
I was waiting for you to have a “Eureka” moment and realise it was the clutch that had gone, also for when the cyclist overtook you!! 😂 Glad you made it back safely though!
You turned a manual bike into a cvt
Ok, clearly, you have not been through clutch failure in a car. Same exact symptoms. If you had, I think you would have understood what was going on. Kudos for uploading and showing others what to look and listen for.
Glad this was posted, fireman! Happened to me yesterday on my victory. 25 mph max on highway for 20 miles to next town. May have screwed something else up with the high revs with no go! But starts the repair process quicker to know initially clutch is blown!
This is something that everybody should see (but not experience). It happened to me and I pretty much felt the same as Dan.... and some time later I'm feeling the clutch thing again 😌
I like how the Grom was the only person to ask if you were alright
Just a hint if the revs are increasing but you're not speeding up linearly the something in your power train, belt, clutch etc is slipping.
That's what got me cos the engine wouldn't even rev. Strange.
What if you have skipping gears??? For instance I shifted up once and it went straight into 3rd gear. Then I shifted down to 1st but it hits a false neutral...any advice???
What if it's only in one gear that it revs with no power increase?
@@kenplums4995 I have same issue in 2002 r1 2nd gear 6krpms if you pin it
@@liamlobillo3362 try to adjust your clutch properly and if that don't solve it. Could be internal issue 🤔 check level in the case too
Ok this vid was super helpful...and I'm a bad person because I laughed a little when you were struggling to pass the bicycle.
This is why having a real analog tach is useful. You can see that your clutch is slipping before you can feel it. My Triumph has a tiny digital tach that is next to invisible while riding in the sun.
Here we are march 2024 and I’m watching your vid and it solved my problem thanks bro
Very helpful to confirm my dirt bike clutch is defiantly slipping. Gas the crap out of it, it revs high but does not match the amount of gas I'm giving it, then levels out rpms catch up to the speed and stops slipping as you feel it fully engage. Mine is just starting to slip is very subtle but for sure is starting to go. Never had a clutch go out but now I know what it feels like thanks!
perfect time to come across this vid. my second just started stalling a day ago. motor revs but not go. and that damn fuel smell. adds up. thanks man!
Sucks that it happened when you were doing your auto tune and was expecting the bike to run bad for a while.
Thanks for your video. I own a 08 stortster 1200 custom and never aware of this issue before. My bike got 16k now and I’m planning of replace the clutch after watching this video.
Thank god you exist @DanDanTheFireman I just had this exact same problem... taking it to the shop tomorrow or friday... thanks a ton
so this happened to me weeks ago. I adjusted my clutch cable and it’s been progressively getting worst past 4th gear. I ended getting spark plugs changed last week and it’s no change. I’m definitely getting clutch kit ASAP.
Amazing how long it took to think it was the clutch lol 😂
Big Jun right
This happened to me today! Except I was getting absolutely no power at all. Had to coast into a parking lot.
Thank you for the post! Very helpful
I guess some people don't have an aptitude for things mechanical. While this bike has no tacho fitted, the engine noise is enough to tell any basic mechanic the clutch is slipping. No matter the state of tune, if it's revving high and the speedo is not matching RPM in any given gear then we have evidence of clutch slip.
Full credits for uploading the video though, takes humility to post a fifteen minute video that will probably do wonders for the learners out there.
Thanks for being understanding.
Just experienced this on my Ducati 1198, looking forward to rebuilding the clutch it looks like.
Thank you dan for posting this. The same thing happened to me today on my way home from work (22mi commute dfw traffic on srt at 5pm). This happened before but went away. I just thought I was getting low on fuel because I was going up a hill. Looks like I will putting the bike up for a while. Just ordered tires, but now I will need a clutch discs. Might as well do the valves and belts. 2011 Ducati monster 796😢
Well I finally got time to mess it the bike and I wish it was the clutch. Although I did find 3 metal plates completely burnt, so I will be replacing the clutch pack. But the clutch basket nut backed completely off. Also the clutch slave pushed my clutch rod completely into the engine because the nut backed off, thus bending the clutch push rod. And causing my slave cylinder to start leaking because it over extend itself. Apparently I found a couple of people that this same thing happened to on some monster forums. Smh why Ducati I love you but it may be time for you to go bye bye
Red
This is painful to watch. It's like I feel your pain 😐... I'm so glad you got it figured out and fixed! Good job! 👍
Bro you're a life saver !!! This is exactly what happen to me the other day. Everything runs but not in gear. I put it in first gear & I let go of the clutch & it didnt stall just stayed on .
Bro, my streetglide did the exact same thing lastnight and it was a nightmare. I couldn't get anyone to tow my bike because it was 3am and people were either asleep or they just didn't give a damn. I must of called 12 different towing places.🤦♂️ I ended up getting a ride to my house where luckily I have a trailer where am able to haul my motorcycle. After a long night of bitching I finally got the bike home. I checked it out today and yup clutch is out. Thanks for the videos. 👍
Thank you for sharing! I experienced this yesterday and I thought that it was just some water that got into the intake. I think I need to replace mine too
I was watching this video thinking about how distracted you were with everything. Good job keeping it safe when you had other motorists, a cyclist, the video, your auto tune, fuel pack, devices and Tucson’s crappy streets 😂
Love all your videos dood
Thanks for posting this video. The exact same thing happened to me.
I literally just had the same thing happen to me. 09 Nightster, just put a fuelpak on and did an autotune, bike was running amazingly, and all the sudden I have no power. Blown clutch. I will be watching your video on changing that next. Thank you so much for posting all this info. I am also in AZ so it's like some weird type of fate/deja vu finding this 😂😅
Ho damn..
My CBRipper 600 is doing the same when I shift down from 6th to 5th in order to overtake on the highway, and some times when I push 2nd gear hard to 3rd it slips for a few seconds till it gets grip again. I know from the beginning that can only be the clutch.
Soon or later I need to change it.
But it sucks when it blows up completely like it happen to you man, lucky your where near home!
\m/ Ride in peace buddy
Realize that this is from a few years back..nice info provided though and very important to know. As said more throttle but bike does not pick up speed but revs higher... then check the clutch (position, free play etc). Please remember your speed now is reduced dramatically and your bike is not picking up as fast anymore -you are in a disadvantage compared to other vehicles, they expect you to pick up and go way faster than you actually are able to now, and the danger of someone rear ending you is much higher, so place yourself and your bike on the lane closer to the shoulder of the road as soon as you realize there is something going on in order to have a safe “exit” if necessary.
Wow can't believe how long it took him to realise that it was the clutch. Lmao
Right ? What a squidbilly
As smart and motorcycle savvy he is he couldnt figure it out.Sometimes something random like having autotune on can throw off your thinking.I bet if he wasn't running auto tune he would have figured it out going through the first light.I hated my sportster was my first bike I didnt know better.
@@dustinlines2181 ye, i bet it was just cause it was a recent install he figured it was related. goes to show you just how smart you think you are.. there's always something.
Lucky it didn't overheat
That's the problem when you're doing work and something else fails. You tend to blame the last thing you touched.
That was painful to watch but I respect him for posting a video of him struggling with the wrong answer.
I would have definitely thought the Fuelpak just torched my bike. Glad you got it figured out. Surprised you didn't swear more :)
Something similar to that happened to me on my truck. I was replacing rear brake lines, to get to the fitting I had to drop the fuel tank disconnecting lines etc. I finished the job and hooked everything back up, and the truck ran like absolute crap. For 2 weeks I chased a fuel delivery/ignition problem because that was the last thing I touched (after a repair if something else is wrong that wasn't there before is usually your fault lol). After week 2 (lol) I began to branch out and test other stuff. Finally I found it was the EGR valve was sticking open slightly longer than it should. Had nothing to do with what I had previously done just like this had nothing to do with autotune lol
Rough especially for an air cooled bike. That sucks man. Cool you got it replaced
On time with a new pair of boots I was holding down the bake brake and it of course melted to the pads but I thought something was wrong with my motor, was pretty happy to find out it was the brakes nonetheless.
Omg I know what your going thru! Mine went and I hobbled back home.
I love cruisers man, but I think u should try out a super naked like a new 2018 speed triple, it's awesome man.
Thank you so much for this video I have been dealing w a “slipping clutch” without realizing it was a slipping clutch after I swapped my handlebars to 14” on a iron 883 and started haveing clutch issues broke down on my for two group rides but I would just adjust my he clutch cable and would be back running it wasn’t till the third breakdown and adjustment that it no longer engages and it was doing exactly that that clutch wasn’t responding to the higher rpm’s and would like go into a limp mode up until it just did not engage at all
This just happen to me yesterday in 5th gear 2014 883 just hit 11k miles 😟 going to use all your links to fix it in the next few weeks
You had no idea it was the clutch ?! Funny I have no second gear and all that in the end you figured it out and the reason you exploded it :) It was an experience for sure !
DUUUUUUDE!!!! Thanks for posting this vid. Same symptoms on my 2014 streetglide with 56k miles on it. Never thought I was this harsh on my clutch but I push it hard. Haven't taken it apart yet (just happened 3 days ago about 1.5 miles from home) but on my bike its a breeze. Got a video saved already. Had plenty of time while I was stranded, waiting for bike to cool off, thinking that it was just an overheated clutch. $200 for a new clutch pack, oil, new gaskets and I should be ready to go. Thanks for posting and showing the fragmentation of your clutch plates.
Last Sunday my bike began doing exactly this, at first I thought it wasn't firing like it should. Then I realized that the problem was worse when I was in 4th and 5th gear. Now I have to rebuild my clutch and it's something I can't hardly afford since I just put a new tire on the back last Wednesday.
DanDanTheFireman yeah because it's still running fine, it just seems to be slipping in higher gears. When I had the tire put on my mechanic told me I would need a cloth later but he said it should hold up a few months. It lasted less than a week but he did tell me to watch for problems in higher gears and not to ride it so that I wouldn't do more damage than just the plates. It's going to cost me between $150 and $200 for parts and I plan on doing the work myself, your videos will help with this even though my bike is a Honda Shadow vt750 ace.
DanDanTheFireman part of the reason I bought my bike is because I knew it would need lots of work and I want to learn as much as I can about working on it. The cost of parts and repairs is more than I can really afford but eventually I will get the repairs done and learn a lot along the way. I guess I got what I wanted and I do love my bike.
Ya my clutch is fubar also nice treat to find on first ride of the year happy times.
I was in the same exact situation today riding from Upstate NY to Jersey. The problem did not present itself until I was riding uphill and started to lose power on the rear wheel but Revs still high. Luckily, I made it home by only going 45mph and maintaining revs up to 2500 and on 3rd gear. Taking my 18 Street Glide with only 2k miles on it (pretty much new) to dealer to see what the actual problem is inside the trans.
danilo Jara glad u made it home lol
@@Motordrago Love the sarcasm lol
Hi Dan, I just experienced the very same thing on my 08 F650GS, and after watching this, I suspect it's same issue u experienced. I rode home exactly how u did only getting max 80kph and 6th felt like 1st. Thanks for this. I'll get it checked soon.
Thanks for the video. Absolutely the clutch. Just called my local shop to order the Barnett clutch kit and basket
For some strange reason my clutch cable tightened up. I had thought forsure as the friction plates wore down the cable would become loose. I didn't smell the clutch but if I was doing over 60mph in 5th and pinned it the digital screen would say it dropped down to 4th gear and the bike would Rev really loud. I loosened up my clutch cable a bit to get more play in the lever and it seems to have solved my issue. When I couldn't smell burnt clutch it made me feel like something was out of adjustment. I've just never had a clutch cable go tighter on its own like that before
I have the same problem I pulled over afraid that I was gonna damage it so I let it cool down and putted the rest of the way home now I'm taking it to a shop and hoping that it won't be costly
Thanks so much for having the courage to post the video of your personal experience with the clutch issue! Impressive that the bike still got you home.
Even though I've read some about the "grenade" plate in the clutch blowing out and also about clutch adjustment, this would be a new experience for me as my first bike was a new 2016 Iron 883 in March of 2016. I just got my Iron back from 5K service and to me the clutch still feels like it only catches at the top (last bit of letting the lever out). I was really hoping they'd adjust that since I mentioned it...no dice. Either they didn't adjust the clutch at all or I just don't understand it and it is supposed to be like that on a sportster (though I thought caught sooner on the lever in first few months of riding). I had already tried adjusting the lever / cable but all that did was provide more free play in the lever or not. I don't think it's supposed to be like this as my new dyna catches right away when releasing the lever. I may have to just do the clutch upgrade like you did and then I can get this more to my liking. Do you know much about where the clutch should start grabbing (friction zone) on sportsters? (I know the 48 has a heavier clutch spring than the 883 but I would think the friction zone should be similar). I was considering clutch upgrade found on Hammer website, with heavier spring.
Am having the same problem this video confirms it thanks much
When he said the biker could make it and he only has two legs. 😂😂😂👌 i felt his pain
That thing sounds like kevin james imitation of an overloaded wave runner lol thanks for having the balls to put this up.
hey bro last nyt i went thru same condition. it's painful to see the bike goin thru so much. nevertheless its a learning. cheers
This is so cool to watch
I had this same issue. People kept telling me it wasn't the clutch that it was the FP3. It was definitely the clutch! I think the extra power from the stage 1 made the grenade ring blow up. I would recommend everyone with the stock clutch replace it before this happens. The fragments from spring plate will eat up your clutch basket and that's a 300 dollar part. The clutch plates are easy to replace and cheap compared to having to replace the basket and the clutch plates.
Jessica Hansen ....so factory clutches are no good? Which ones should we replace them with?
@Queef Micester
I used a Barnett extra clutch plate kit. But you can use any clutch you want. However the stock clutch has a riveted spring plate which is the main problem with the stock clutch. That plate wears down over time and the plate falls apart. Then all those pieces cause your clutch to slip and also it eats away at the clutch basket. Most people experience this around 15000 miles, however my bike had almost 25000 before this problem presented itself.
Jessica Hansen .... Cool, thanks for the info. I'm looking for a Barret Extra Clutch Plate but I can't seem to find one for my bike (2009 Kawasaki Er-6n )
Jessica Hansen if i go from clutch adjustment from handle and engine did it work?
What if your trying to accelerate really fast but you feel as the bike isn’t pushing its full power that it should 🤔
intake/exhaust, fuel, weight, gearing
Bad/old Chain/sprockets as well can cause this, just had to change mine that didn't LOOK to bad but was completely in need of replacing, rides like night and day difference.
So funny knowing what’s wrong watching you think it’s the new tune.. ty for that lol and good video man!
I've had people tell me they've gone 100,000 miles on a clutch. Why did this one wear out so soon? Also...what's an auto-tuner?
It happened to
My Honda Grom yesterday and I just got it from this motorcycle shop
The first place where your going to notice slippage is in high gear under heavy acceleration. The last place (totally fried) is when it slips in first gear. Then no drive.
If you notice slippage change clutch asap because the fiber is circulating around in the oil.
How much to replace?
@@toniod.mitchell1396 About $200 for parts. Labor depends who does it.
"I feel like my clutch is f*cked", funny how we sometimes diagnose our problems without realizing it.
I can feel ur paim man..my pulsar had a same problem
Same thing happened to me with my auto tuner exact same thing pulled over side of road pulled it off the ECM ran fine after that
This happend to my Kawisaki KLX 250 but what went wrong was springs were worn out so much that my clutch would slip so when your riding it you would top out a about 7kmh on the rev limiter in first gear
Hey Dan, recently I had to adjust the clutch cable...one day I was riding and the handle just became loose. I watched your video and did the clutch adjustment... everything was fine. So my problem is every time I start my bike , the handle is loose...once I start riding it tightens up. I went home and as I turned the bike off there was a huge “Ka-chunk!” Next day I was at a stop sign and the bike started sputtering and shut off...wouldn’t start, wouldn’t go forward or backwards, wouldn’t let me change the gear. I quickly got off, re-adjusted the clutch cable, jumped it, started back up and drove home, no problems. Someone mentioned that it might be a frayed or stretched clutch cable? Any thoughts? Sorry for the long message.
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“Every gear is first gear” 😂😂 that must have sucked . I’m having a problem getting into neutral and first gear clunks hard when shifting into it . Video helped a lot. Thanks .
7:30 that was nice of that other biker checking if you were ok.
Well, that sucks.
Surprised it didn't make more noise. I had a pressure plate let go in a Duc once (the assembler forgot the Loctite.) Worked fine until it let go then it sounded like all hell broke loose.
Yours just slipped like an old set of clutch plates. Them Harley primary covers must be well insulated. Whadda mess. Good luck with that.
This just happened to me. The past few days I noticed it reving higher than normal for my regular speeds. This morning on my way to work it just gave out on the freeway. Lost all power and had to cruise from 90ish to the next exit. Engine is fine but clutch plate is crap now. Time for a new one.
He is making it up the hill and he only got 2 legs... hahahaha thanks for vid, thumbs up
I have tears coming down my face.
I do not know really about this issue. But i can tell that i do not procrastinate in changing OIL and also oil filter. I do it each spring or 2000 miles. I do it when i feel that i need to do it. I ride 365 days each year so i need to do it more or less often depending of he weather or anything.
the 1200 sportster is supposed to be very good with no objections ( issues ).... eventho i know that things that are man made.... will break.
tk you for taking the time to allow us to see the experiences that you are going through.
awsome vlog !
The pw50 did the same thing. The clutch spring let go and the bike would idle with the rear wheel down. Bounced around like a pogo stick.
to get out with suck issue with your clutch plate in middle of somewhere...here in India me make reduce the play in clutch lever even if its at advised range still reduce it to get away till your service station
How many miles did u have on your bike when the clutch was going out? How often do u change your primary?
This happened to me at 12k in elevation on a trail on the Colorado Rockies. Limped the bike to the closest town. Not fun at all.
Have you ever taken your clutch basket off then put it back on and find out that your clutch won't engage even though you never took the basket apart? I had to change my stator and now I don't have a clutch
i think the problem is that you need a Japanese bike
jordan heft Naw. An Indian would do.
Un American
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It happened to my 2023 z900 and i had to rebuild my clutch at a certified dealer and it just happened again today like 2 weeks after i fixed it
And Now we follow your How to replace Burnt Clutch Plates Video hahahahaha. I’ll get right on that. What a Skillet Head.
How many miles were on it when this happened dan?
This just happened to me today on my kawasaki vulcan while on the highway. Clutch started slipping on full throttle and then completely went out and it wouldn't go anywhere. Had to coast to next exit and push it 2 miles to friends house.
This happened to me riding a 250
Rally in the snow the other day. I guess i need to change my clutch
I had a clutch go out on me at 3k miles. Brand new bike. It can happen at any time. So never discount your miles. If you run hard they could glaze over. And they eventually get brittle and fall apart. Best way to tell is by popping the clutch in all the gears. If there is no pull, its is trash.
What's a good aftermarket clutch
How many miles are on your bike Dan?
Wow I hope this never happens to mine. But when I was shifting into second and third ⚙️ I press the gas and I has a 2 second delay before it starts pulling. I don’t think it was like that before
i think the same thing just happened to my sportster. no acceleration, hills were hard.
i feel like all i have is 1st, neutral, 2nd
How can you not be aware your clutch is slipping?
Palm Coast Adventures ...deductive reasoning
he's a squid....
I wouldn't have picked it because the engine wouldn't even rev out .
You tend to blame the last thing you worked on, the bike didn't start failing until the auto tune so he deduced it to that
Right now i am having the same issue and it is ridiculously painful to be struggling at gear 5 with a speed of 60km/h
I used to have a Barnett clutch in my XJR, launched like nothing else
Hmm my CBR650F feels like it lost some acceleration, I could still keep up with traffic but I can definitely feel the difference. I suspect it's my clutch also.
Best video ever . Catches up to the bicycle and gets dusted again
Hilarious