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This video has informed me that there is more than one railway museum in the UK. I had no idea. Even more surprising is that there’s apparently about 70 of them! Edit - the Wikipedia list doesn’t even show the heritage railway collections or places like Railworld so there’s even more than that.
@@relaxreflect5888 At the time, it was called "The National Railway Museum Shildon", alongside "the National Railway Museum". So, there were two "National Railway Museums"
If you only ever see two railway museums, the other should be the Transport Museum in Covent Garden. Not strictly speaking a railway museum, but still well worth a visit. And the old buses still smell like old buses!
@@paulhaynes8045 The Transport Museum does have some nice things to see, but overall it appeared to be aimed at children ages about 5 to 12. So it was a bit disappointing for me. The National Rail Museum in York however was great, and I highly recommend.
One part of the National Collection started in the 1880s when, J. B. Harper of the North Eastern Railway had been collecting material much of which was exhibited on the occasion of the S.& D.R. centenary in 1925. This became a major part of the exhibitions in the LNER's museum.
Great review. Yes, I'd like to hear about the other locomotives you saw in York. York is a good place for museums since it also has the Jorvik Viking Museum and the Castle Museum which are both well worth a visit.
It's great to see about the Evening Star. It's uncommon to hear about it. The legend goes, 2 drivers won the competition to name it and called it the evening star. To bookend it with it's much older sister, the Morning Star.
We actually have our own railway museum in Pyongyang called the Railway Revolutionary Museum dedicated to the DPRK's railway construction projects. When you enter, there's a huge mural of my father and grandpa opening the main Pyongyang station (first opened in 1906 but had to be rebuilt after the war in 1958). You then see maps of both the DPRK and Eurasia, with the specific lines lit up in red that my grandpa and father traveled on (my grandpa did a big Europe and China trip by train in 1984)! There are big dioramas of both the bombing of the DPRK railway network during the war as well as the construction in the war's aftermath. We heavily took advantage of our railway to transport troops and military hardware, in addition to using them as ‘gunships’ in their own right, so of course the South and the US wanted it to target it. But we managed to rebuild everything because we keep moving forward and rose out of the ashes. Besides those, we also have old rolling stock dating from the Japanese period, as well as recent pictures showing us building our own rolling stock, and our main goal of electrifying the whole network.
I am very proud to say that the museum accepted my donation to their collection. It was a (drumroll) British Rail / Roland Rat / Keep Britain Tidy activity pack. Apparently they didn't have one. The form signing ownership over to them had to be countersigned and witnessed, presumably the same form was used for Flying Scotsman.
Im getting old and my favourite museums are quiet spaces filled with interesting old things in glass cases with lots to read, not 'interactive history experiences', so i love the odds and sods hall at the NRM. Pitt Rivers museum in Oxford is another lovely example
Such an integral part of my childhood. My grandad was first fireman then driver on British Rail, based out of Wath, and with my dad also being an enthusiast, this was a staple part of 'things to do on a day out'. The last time we went, we took our three small boys (now in their mid-late teens, so it was too long ago - must go back!). My parents were with us, and dad eagerly called them out into the yard to see the rocket. The were so confused when they couldn't see a rocket at all, just a very strange looking yellow and black locomotive!
The last time I went to The Raily Museum was when there 6 A4's side by side to celebrate the anniversary of Mallard geting the world speed record for steam locomotives. It was a great day out from the south of England. I had been many times before when I lived in the North. It was always a great place to visit.
Brings back so many memories. My dad worked for BR, back when it truly was BR. As we got to travel for free he used to take us here all the time. Although long passed, seeing this again warms my heart with those memories.
I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've been to London and I've travelled on the tube no less than twice but I always find you videos interesting and informative and there is occasionally a Kohinoor diamond in your crown like this.
I’ve been to the National Railway Museum so many times and this is where I got the love and passion about trains and transport. Such a incredible museum in York.
As a boy born and bred in Luton, travelling to St Pancras and on to Clapham with my Father some 60 years ago was an annual treat. Much was my chagrin when that railway museum closed.
Mallard is rightly famous for having gone fast. The class was designed for the Kings Cross- Edinburgh route The Princess Coronation class were developed slightly later for the Euston-Glasgow line. This is slightly longer but twistier & hillier so power was considered more important than speed. The first of the class, 6220 Coronation, set a national speed record of 115mph in 1937 before Mallard beat it a year later. Both companies then agreed that they were trying to go faster than could be done safely at the time. Soon after it was built, Duchess of Hamilton was sent to the USA for a publicity tour. It swapped identities with 6220 Coronation for this. Not all of the class were built with streamlined casings. Those which did have them, had them removed in the late 1940s because it was a pain for maintenance & of little practical benefit below 90mph (& apart from the publicity runs, they rarely exceeded this speed). Duchess of Hamilton & Duchess of Sutherland were bought by Butlin's after withdrawal for BR & cosmetically restored as tourist attractions. Sutherland was displayed at Ayr & Hamilton at Minehead. City of Birmingham was also of the same class & is now preserved in Thinktank, Birmingham. Hamilton was overhauled in the early 80s & ran on the main line for a few years. In the late 2000s, it had a new streamlined casing built for it, which it carries today. Sutherland is currently operational. It is technically based at Butterley in Derbyshire but spends more time hauling charter trains on the main line. Duchess of Sutherland was built without a streamlined casing. City of Birmingham was one of the first of the class to be de-streamlined but is preserved in the condition in which it was withdrawn.
I agree - I think Duchess of Hamilton is far more elegant than Mallard. Apparently Sir William Stanier was less than enthusiastic about the 1930s streamlining fad, viewing it as a marketing gimmick rather than providing any real technical benefit.
"And I want to talk about the puff puffs" - Jago once again speaking to my heart. Edit: video on train speeds, Cecil J Allen and the Dynamometer cars? Or is that too nerdy?
The railway museum in York is a wonderful place. I'm lucky enough to live nearby and it's perfect for a day out with the kids: free entry, play areas, despite the catering outlets they don't mind you bringing a picnic, and of course the range and quality of the collection is fantastic. Every time we go my kids become more and more enthusiastic about rail, about steam, and about history.
The rivalry between the different companies gave us so much of the diversity we see in this wonderful museum. I have visited many times during holidays to York and this is one of my favourite places on Earth. Thank you, Jago, for stirring my memories.
I have a clear memory from primary school days of seeing Evening Star hauling - yes - a goods train on the line between Bristol and Avonmouth slowly past at Sea Mills. I’d been told it was the last steam locomotive and had just built an Airfix model of it so it made a strong impression.
As a kid I remember going to the museum when it was in Clapham, and was very excited to be reunited with Mallard when I finally visited York about 40 years later.
Been here many times as i live about 25 miles away so its easy to get to i can remember going to the original museum site when it was a lot smaller than now. and yes we would like to know more about your visit.
Yes! More videos like this please! Their specific history is often so fascinating. Yet I often don’t have the mental wherewithal to follow all the various individual rabbit holes like you do. Not to mention, you are quite skilled at presenting them in an order which flows together well.
Evening Star did however - occasionally - pull freight trains. I know, as I once saw it pulling a coal train. And honest, it really was the Evening Star, copper knobs and all.
Please Jago, more videos from the national collection! Before the National Railway Museum was formed, the collection of locomotives at York where stored quite simply in a shed. I was privileged enough to be shown around all the locomotives by a very kind British Rail employee. I could have spent days in there!
As someone who visited Clapham often as a child, whenever I visit York I do ask for our museum back.How they laugh. Not the only thing they nicked from South London, they have the stuffed charity dog from Wimbledon Station as well.
Seeing the Q1 in the closing shots, please do something on the Q1, Merchant, West Country and Battle of Britain class locos, and O. V. S. Bulleid's contribution to engine design. Would love your take on those.
@@AtheistOrphan would you not quarter the driving wheels, to ensure that the valves and pistons are not left in a position where the wheel is as likely to be pushed backwards when you wanted to go forwards
@@highpath4776 - Good point, but in my father’s case ‘quartering the buffers’ was a little more prosaic: This meant polishing the outer facing of the buffers horizontally and then vertically in opposing segments, purely for aesthetic reasons!
Good memories and a great video. Must go back soon, it’s been 10+ years since I visited. I’d be interested in a further video from York covering the collection of early diesel and electric locos. I do often visit Didcot railway museum which has a great selection of locos, rolling stock and memorabilia. The engineering sheds where they maintain/rebuild the locos is excellent, well worth a visit.
When I first read that title, I was happy that you were visiting New York for the first time; in a recent video, you revealed that you hadn't. Reading it again, I realised that it's old York you've visited. Oh well, it's a start, innit?
During my trainspotting early teens, we always referred to Coronation class locos as "Semis", while streamlined locos, , which we never saw, were "Streaks". Incidentally, trainspotting seemed to involve the entire juvenile male population, but never a lass was to be seen. One common trick when travelling by train was to watch the (semaphore) signals on the opposite line. When a train was "pegged" you stuck your head out of the window and waited, in order to read the number from the front of the loco as it approached. It was rather important to get your timing right.
Visited on the way back from a weekend in Edinburgh, stayed at the convent or abbey now a BnB, just outside the gate. Absolutely loved my afternoon in the museum, a true treasure. I recommend it and York for a visit.
The Railway Museum at York and Locomotion at Shildon have always been very interesting places to mooch around . Railways are never boring there is always change on ghe Horizon.
Wonderful Video Jago 👍 I remember going to the RM a few years back. I could fit perfectly underneath Gladstone's Running plate! Also, GWR 4000 class & Coppernob my beloved's ❤️
The random bit of the NRM (or RM, or whatever it is now) is the best part of the museum for me! Also: A4=best design, Coronation class=best looking. Don’t @ me :-D
Thank you for this little tour of the York Railway Museum, more might be very welcome! You might also enjoy a visit to the 'Locomotion' hall at Shildon, near Bishop Auckland, along with a visit to the other smaller railway 'birthplace' museums thereabouts.
Near Shildon, there is another one on the same line at North Road in Darlington. It is called the Head of steam museum. Not the largest of sorts but still a great place to spend a couple of hours.
Being from that age "when museums weren't supposed to be interesting" (nice one!) as well, and who also could get lost in them for hours, I would very much enjoy more video from your jaunt to York. 👍
Silly chap. Of course we would like to see more of your visit to the Railway Museum. And while I am very much a steam person ( GWR naturally). I'm not averse to a nice Deltic or class 37. 🙂
I am very much team mallard. While I fear she may never steam again, it is a goal of mine to ride on the recently returned-to-steam sir Nigel greasly. The greasly A4s are my favourite steam engines of all time
Jago, you are the Mallard to my Duchess of Hamilton. Did you make a second visit? I know you visited a good 6 months ago or so because I noticed you started dropping random shots of various locomotives housed at the museum into your videos at about that time! I can't believe it's taken you this long to do a video on the museum itself. I got to visit York in 2019 and spent a day at the museum. Really enjoyable for anyone into trains. I picked up a couple of the fancy drawings one is supposed to hang somewhere, both as a memento and as a way of supporting the museum.
And for those who haven't been there, many of the trains in the main exhibition hall can be moved! And they do move and reposition them every so often and re-arrange exhibits. I stopped by a second time before leaving to get something at the gift shop, and had another quick look around and noticed that some of the trains had been moved compared to the previous day. So you could make several visits and encounter a unique arrangement every time.
Several people have mentioned Shildon. While there are exhibits there worth a video, the place itself is perhaps a worthy subject as it is the original terminus of the Stockton & Darlington and several buildings there have historic connections. And there's the bridge nearby, though I believe the original structure has been modified.
As an avid 9F fan I had to rise to the bait - Evening Star hauling freight? Well it did. Open your copy of Volume Four of British Railways Standard Steam Locomotives published by RCTS and turn to page 113. Evening Star photographed at Worcester Shrub Hill on the 26th May 1964 pulling a Class C freight train. My work is here is done.
As someone who lives in York, I thought I should point out that, as I understand it, the National Railway Mueum is still called the National Railway Museum - it's just the logo that omits the word 'National'. Personally I think that is a daft idea, but I'm sure the marketing team at the Science Museum would disagree.
THe NRM in York is definitely one of my favourite museums, I went last year while some of the galleries were still closed but didn't get a chance to return before the renovation started. Looking forward to what the renewal brings, and in the meantime I'll try and get up to Locomotion!
I love the stories of the locomotives, I could listen to you tell the story of them breaking down or who rode on them or controversy over their paint colours. It’s all very relaxing and fun to know.. please just keep talking about trains :) anything about them is great
Maybe I'm outlier (literally - I'm an American) on this, but I would be interested in whatever you got on UK diesels. Otherwise, jolly good show as I hear all the time on BBC America.
Not a exhaustive list, but UK diesels YT channels Classic Traction, various diesels,I thought it was electrics; Dad Rail, train drivers view; National Railway Museum, from this very institution; Train_PlaneHub various videos. I stumbled across a video of a walk-around and startup of a class 66 diesel, it may be on one of the above channels. Very high nerd vibes. These were the UK oriented ones; if I listed continental, I would run out of page. Hope this helps. Of course you could come the dark side and go with *lightening* ELECTRIFICATION *thunder* *horses neighing*.
I've probably visited the NRM (I don't care what it's called now. I'll walk around the NRM and eat my Marathon) more than any other museum in this land -and that's saying something, my mother was a habitual historical-interest-dragger-of-small-recalcitrant-children. In my youth I was forced to look at Roman mosaics, abbey ruins, castle ruins, whaling history, royal houses, stately homes (and gardens), old ships, paintings and a whole lot of other things five year olds have very little interest in. However, a visit to the NRM was always a delight, both as a child and remains so as a fifty three year old. In homage to my mum I also dragged my daughter there some years ago and I look forward to dragging my two granddaughters there in the coming months. I also know I'll get a little lump in my throat when I introduce them to the fastest steam locomotive in history and I'll maybe nod my head over to that LMS red thing and say, "well, this one was more powerful, but only because of Shap". :P
A certain 3 going on 4 yr old spends his post-kindergarten afternoons here... and his 2nd request is usually ...".. A blue or black A4...or a Ja .." ( NZR development of the York-built J class, 4-6-2s, from about 1935 ). LeviNZ will show him this video...
Can you do a feature on the rather peculiar numbering in paint or cast metal that railway companies used, was it to save space that 7s looked like inverted 2s and so on ?
Is Rocket on display? I went to the Science Museum in London two days ago and was surprised to learn that Rocket had left there in 2018 and since 2019 has been at NRM in York. (I think I saw it, and it’s coaches, in the background a couple of times in your video?)
Glad to see you got a shot of Rocket even though the station hall is closed. I feel it is a shame this is stuck away in a dark alcove even though it now bears little resemblance to how history recorded it at the Rainhill trials.
Superb, Jago. Thanks very much for another cracking video. Not wishing to ignite further inter pre-nationalisation strife my favourite locomotives are always those from the Southern. The Sectioned Merchant Navy and the Q1 are both wonderful. Would you have the chance (or the motivation) to make a video on Locomotion at Shildon?
This video has informed me that there is more than one railway museum in the UK. I had no idea. Even more surprising is that there’s apparently about 70 of them!
Edit - the Wikipedia list doesn’t even show the heritage railway collections or places like Railworld so there’s even more than that.
The railway museum in shildon is a must visit 👍🏻
@@relaxreflect5888 At the time, it was called "The National Railway Museum Shildon", alongside "the National Railway Museum". So, there were two "National Railway Museums"
If you only ever see two railway museums, the other should be the Transport Museum in Covent Garden. Not strictly speaking a railway museum, but still well worth a visit. And the old buses still smell like old buses!
@@paulhaynes8045 The Transport Museum does have some nice things to see, but overall it appeared to be aimed at children ages about 5 to 12. So it was a bit disappointing for me. The National Rail Museum in York however was great, and I highly recommend.
@@comicus01 well I'm nearly 70 and I thought it was at just the right level. Mind you, it could just be that most of it is effectively my history!
Who could resist a random collection of railway memorabilia? I'm pretty sure we'd all like to see more of your visit and discoveries.
Agreed!
I could loose a day in the weird curiosity section. Defo worthy of a video,
We concur.
One part of the National Collection started in the 1880s when, J. B. Harper of the North Eastern Railway had been collecting material much of which was exhibited on the occasion of the S.& D.R. centenary in 1925. This became a major part of the exhibitions in the LNER's museum.
Great review. Yes, I'd like to hear about the other locomotives you saw in York. York is a good place for museums since it also has the Jorvik Viking Museum and the Castle Museum which are both well worth a visit.
Yes, Jorvik is definitely worth a visit.
And the Bile Beans sign
It's great to see about the Evening Star. It's uncommon to hear about it. The legend goes, 2 drivers won the competition to name it and called it the evening star. To bookend it with it's much older sister, the Morning Star.
'It's great to see about the Evening Star.' I watch Hornby, a model world and they did a recreation of the Evening Star.
We actually have our own railway museum in Pyongyang called the Railway Revolutionary Museum dedicated to the DPRK's railway construction projects. When you enter, there's a huge mural of my father and grandpa opening the main Pyongyang station (first opened in 1906 but had to be rebuilt after the war in 1958). You then see maps of both the DPRK and Eurasia, with the specific lines lit up in red that my grandpa and father traveled on (my grandpa did a big Europe and China trip by train in 1984)!
There are big dioramas of both the bombing of the DPRK railway network during the war as well as the construction in the war's aftermath. We heavily took advantage of our railway to transport troops and military hardware, in addition to using them as ‘gunships’ in their own right, so of course the South and the US wanted it to target it. But we managed to rebuild everything because we keep moving forward and rose out of the ashes. Besides those, we also have old rolling stock dating from the Japanese period, as well as recent pictures showing us building our own rolling stock, and our main goal of electrifying the whole network.
"Who invented the steam engine?" "Stalin!"
I am very proud to say that the museum accepted my donation to their collection. It was a (drumroll) British Rail / Roland Rat / Keep Britain Tidy activity pack.
Apparently they didn't have one.
The form signing ownership over to them had to be countersigned and witnessed, presumably the same form was used for Flying Scotsman.
Im getting old and my favourite museums are quiet spaces filled with interesting old things in glass cases with lots to read, not 'interactive history experiences', so i love the odds and sods hall at the NRM. Pitt Rivers museum in Oxford is another lovely example
Such an integral part of my childhood. My grandad was first fireman then driver on British Rail, based out of Wath, and with my dad also being an enthusiast, this was a staple part of 'things to do on a day out'. The last time we went, we took our three small boys (now in their mid-late teens, so it was too long ago - must go back!). My parents were with us, and dad eagerly called them out into the yard to see the rocket. The were so confused when they couldn't see a rocket at all, just a very strange looking yellow and black locomotive!
The last time I went to The Raily Museum was when there 6 A4's side by side to celebrate the anniversary of Mallard geting the world speed record for steam locomotives. It was a great day out from the south of England. I had been many times before when I lived in the North. It was always a great place to visit.
I was there in 2000. Absolutely loved York and could have spent a whole week in the train museum alone.
That was an express run through some highlights. Enjoyable none-the-less
Brings back so many memories. My dad worked for BR, back when it truly was BR. As we got to travel for free he used to take us here all the time. Although long passed, seeing this again warms my heart with those memories.
Duchess of Hamilton looks like she’s doing 100mph stood still. Sublime.
I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've been to London and I've travelled on the tube no less than twice but I always find you videos interesting and informative and there is occasionally a Kohinoor diamond in your crown like this.
I’ve been to the National Railway Museum so many times and this is where I got the love and passion about trains and transport. Such a incredible museum in York.
As a boy born and bred in Luton, travelling to St Pancras and on to Clapham with my Father some 60 years ago was an annual treat. Much was my chagrin when that railway museum closed.
I'm very interested in seeing more polished copper and brass on old locos. Can't beat a nice bit of polished copper and brass. Mmmmm, shiny things. 🤗
Good evening Jago. Most of us know about Mallard, but the Duchess of Hamilton is a real beauty. I would like to know more about her, please.
Mallard is rightly famous for having gone fast. The class was designed for the Kings Cross- Edinburgh route
The Princess Coronation class were developed slightly later for the Euston-Glasgow line. This is slightly longer but twistier & hillier so power was considered more important than speed. The first of the class, 6220 Coronation, set a national speed record of 115mph in 1937 before Mallard beat it a year later. Both companies then agreed that they were trying to go faster than could be done safely at the time.
Soon after it was built, Duchess of Hamilton was sent to the USA for a publicity tour. It swapped identities with 6220 Coronation for this. Not all of the class were built with streamlined casings. Those which did have them, had them removed in the late 1940s because it was a pain for maintenance & of little practical benefit below 90mph (& apart from the publicity runs, they rarely exceeded this speed). Duchess of Hamilton & Duchess of Sutherland were bought by Butlin's after withdrawal for BR & cosmetically restored as tourist attractions. Sutherland was displayed at Ayr & Hamilton at Minehead. City of Birmingham was also of the same class & is now preserved in Thinktank, Birmingham.
Hamilton was overhauled in the early 80s & ran on the main line for a few years. In the late 2000s, it had a new streamlined casing built for it, which it carries today. Sutherland is currently operational. It is technically based at Butterley in Derbyshire but spends more time hauling charter trains on the main line.
Duchess of Sutherland was built without a streamlined casing. City of Birmingham was one of the first of the class to be de-streamlined but is preserved in the condition in which it was withdrawn.
I agree - I think Duchess of Hamilton is far more elegant than Mallard. Apparently Sir William Stanier was less than enthusiastic about the 1930s streamlining fad, viewing it as a marketing gimmick rather than providing any real technical benefit.
"We are a nation of train nerds."
I mean, he's not wrong.
"And I want to talk about the puff puffs" - Jago once again speaking to my heart.
Edit: video on train speeds, Cecil J Allen and the Dynamometer cars? Or is that too nerdy?
The railway museum in York is a wonderful place. I'm lucky enough to live nearby and it's perfect for a day out with the kids: free entry, play areas, despite the catering outlets they don't mind you bringing a picnic, and of course the range and quality of the collection is fantastic. Every time we go my kids become more and more enthusiastic about rail, about steam, and about history.
Definitely up for seeing more from the Railway Museum
The rivalry between the different companies gave us so much of the diversity we see in this wonderful museum. I have visited many times during holidays to York and this is one of my favourite places on Earth. Thank you, Jago, for stirring my memories.
It wasn't all that long ago that I was commuting on museum trains from Clapham Junction to Waterloo. They have been moved now, mostly not to York.
Yes, I would like to see more of this museum, like the newer machinery.
I have a clear memory from primary school days of seeing Evening Star hauling - yes - a goods train on the line between Bristol and Avonmouth slowly past at Sea Mills. I’d been told it was the last steam locomotive and had just built an Airfix model of it so it made a strong impression.
An excellent presentation of a couple of hours of self-indulgence. Do, please, continue to indulge yourself whenever you feel the urge.
Been meaning to visit for ages, that has motivated me again.
A day at York , oh wonderful and thank you.
As a kid I remember going to the museum when it was in Clapham, and was very excited to be reunited with Mallard when I finally visited York about 40 years later.
I noticed 43002 'Sir Kenneth Grange' in the background! Was lucky enough to actually meet the very man, at London Paddington many years ago!
Been here many times as i live about 25 miles away so its easy to get to i can remember going to the original museum site when it was a lot smaller than now. and yes we would like to know more about your visit.
Yes! More videos like this please! Their specific history is often so fascinating. Yet I often don’t have the mental wherewithal to follow all the various individual rabbit holes like you do. Not to mention, you are quite skilled at presenting them in an order which flows together well.
Evening Star did however - occasionally - pull freight trains. I know, as I once saw it pulling a coal train. And honest, it really was the Evening Star, copper knobs and all.
Please Jago, more videos from the national collection!
Before the National Railway Museum was formed, the collection of locomotives at York where stored quite simply in a shed. I was privileged enough to be shown around all the locomotives by a very kind British Rail employee. I could have spent days in there!
I remember going there a few years back,i remember liking the room where you could watch the trains from
As someone who visited Clapham often as a child, whenever I visit York I do ask for our museum back.How they laugh.
Not the only thing they nicked from South London, they have the stuffed charity dog from Wimbledon Station as well.
Seeing the Q1 in the closing shots, please do something on the Q1, Merchant, West Country and Battle of Britain class locos, and O. V. S. Bulleid's contribution to engine design. Would love your take on those.
My father was a fireman on the Q1’s predecessor, the Q class 0-6-0s. He told me tales of things like ‘quartering’ the buffers on them.
@@AtheistOrphan would you not quarter the driving wheels, to ensure that the valves and pistons are not left in a position where the wheel is as likely to be pushed backwards when you wanted to go forwards
@@highpath4776 - Good point, but in my father’s case ‘quartering the buffers’ was a little more prosaic: This meant polishing the outer facing of the buffers horizontally and then vertically in opposing segments, purely for aesthetic reasons!
@@AtheistOrphan Ah . yes, the groundsmans stripe in bowls or football
@@highpath4776 - Yes, that’s what I was trying to describe. Good analogy!
Good memories and a great video. Must go back soon, it’s been 10+ years since I visited. I’d be interested in a further video from York covering the collection of early diesel and electric locos. I do often visit Didcot railway museum which has a great selection of locos, rolling stock and memorabilia. The engineering sheds where they maintain/rebuild the locos is excellent, well worth a visit.
When I first read that title, I was happy that you were visiting New York for the first time; in a recent video, you revealed that you hadn't. Reading it again, I realised that it's old York you've visited. Oh well, it's a start, innit?
Always fascinating. Thanks, we are a nation of railway nerds…
During my trainspotting early teens, we always referred to Coronation class locos as "Semis", while streamlined locos, , which we never saw, were "Streaks".
Incidentally, trainspotting seemed to involve the entire juvenile male population, but never a lass was to be seen.
One common trick when travelling by train was to watch the (semaphore) signals on the opposite line. When a train was "pegged" you stuck your head out of the window and waited, in order to read the number from the front of the loco as it approached. It was rather important to get your timing right.
Please more of this - love the puff puffs :)
Visited on the way back from a weekend in Edinburgh, stayed at the convent or abbey now a BnB, just outside the gate. Absolutely loved my afternoon in the museum, a true treasure. I recommend it and York for a visit.
I would definitely be interested in videos about the other locos there. I haven't been there for quite a while.
Yes, more please! I'd be quite happy to hear about the diesels & electrics thatt are also there.......
1:20 - good to see something left unrestored!
I used to know a girl named Patina.
Wonderful stuff.
Thanks so very much.
Mr H
I’m going to this museum soon! So it’s good to hear how it was formed and what to expect
_The Duchess of Hamilton_ reminds me of the intro to "Poirot"... now is it too late to watch an episode before bed?
The Railway Museum at York and Locomotion at Shildon have always been very interesting places to mooch around . Railways are never boring there is always change on ghe Horizon.
Only been there once but I’d love to come back. Enjoyed the rest of the city as well
Wonderful Video Jago 👍
I remember going to the RM a few years back. I could fit perfectly underneath Gladstone's Running plate!
Also, GWR 4000 class & Coppernob my beloved's ❤️
The Bulleid Austerity 0-6-0? Yes please to video on that!
Great vid. I go to York once or twice a year but I never get the time to go to the museum. Hopefully one day!
I think if I saw any of these green colored cars or engines go past I would laugh , cry , clap my hands, and know I had seen a thing of beauty.
The random bit of the NRM (or RM, or whatever it is now) is the best part of the museum for me!
Also: A4=best design, Coronation class=best looking. Don’t @ me :-D
Thank you for this little tour of the York Railway Museum, more might be very welcome! You might also enjoy a visit to the 'Locomotion' hall at Shildon, near Bishop Auckland, along with a visit to the other smaller railway 'birthplace' museums thereabouts.
Near Shildon, there is another one on the same line at North Road in Darlington. It is called the Head of steam museum. Not the largest of sorts but still a great place to spend a couple of hours.
Being from that age "when museums weren't supposed to be interesting" (nice one!) as well, and who also could get lost in them for hours, I would very much enjoy more video from your jaunt to York. 👍
Silly chap. Of course we would like to see more of your visit to the Railway Museum. And while I am very much a steam person ( GWR naturally). I'm not averse to a nice Deltic or class 37. 🙂
i always love the enquotes like today´s "you are musuem for my homeless heart!" . It was sorta romantic!
I am very much team mallard. While I fear she may never steam again, it is a goal of mine to ride on the recently returned-to-steam sir Nigel greasly. The greasly A4s are my favourite steam engines of all time
Jago, you are the Mallard to my Duchess of Hamilton.
Did you make a second visit? I know you visited a good 6 months ago or so because I noticed you started dropping random shots of various locomotives housed at the museum into your videos at about that time! I can't believe it's taken you this long to do a video on the museum itself.
I got to visit York in 2019 and spent a day at the museum. Really enjoyable for anyone into trains. I picked up a couple of the fancy drawings one is supposed to hang somewhere, both as a memento and as a way of supporting the museum.
And for those who haven't been there, many of the trains in the main exhibition hall can be moved! And they do move and reposition them every so often and re-arrange exhibits. I stopped by a second time before leaving to get something at the gift shop, and had another quick look around and noticed that some of the trains had been moved compared to the previous day. So you could make several visits and encounter a unique arrangement every time.
I have been itching to go for years, need an excuse to have the next family holiday in York
Jago! Please may we hear about the SR Q1? ? Great video by the way!
Several people have mentioned Shildon. While there are exhibits there worth a video, the place itself is perhaps a worthy subject as it is the original terminus of the Stockton & Darlington and several buildings there have historic connections. And there's the bridge nearby, though I believe the original structure has been modified.
As an avid 9F fan I had to rise to the bait - Evening Star hauling freight? Well it did. Open your copy of Volume Four of British Railways Standard Steam Locomotives published by RCTS and turn to page 113. Evening Star photographed at Worcester Shrub Hill on the 26th May 1964 pulling a Class C freight train. My work is here is done.
Oui, yes please, more!!
Very interesting and . . . yes, we like more !
Mighty Mac and Murdoch been based on from Thomas stories we’ll remembered him
As someone who lives in York, I thought I should point out that, as I understand it, the National Railway Mueum is still called the National Railway Museum - it's just the logo that omits the word 'National'. Personally I think that is a daft idea, but I'm sure the marketing team at the Science Museum would disagree.
When they make that time machine, I shall take a Stirling Single and re-live the Race to the North.
It's been on my holiday list for a decade and more. Sold on York. Edit: I'm a Coppernob
Dubs always seemed to build slightly unusual locomotives
THe NRM in York is definitely one of my favourite museums, I went last year while some of the galleries were still closed but didn't get a chance to return before the renovation started. Looking forward to what the renewal brings, and in the meantime I'll try and get up to Locomotion!
Ooooooooh! I’ve been waiting for this one!! ❤
5:59 rocket has gone on a holiday to shildon rail museum york's sister site
Enjoyable walk round the Museum, could you do a part two, the diesels and electrics. Also, a question. Where in Clapham was the museum there.?
I love the stories of the locomotives, I could listen to you tell the story of them breaking down or who rode on them or controversy over their paint colours. It’s all very relaxing and fun to know.. please just keep talking about trains :) anything about them is great
Maybe I'm outlier (literally - I'm an American) on this, but I would be interested in whatever you got on UK diesels. Otherwise, jolly good show as I hear all the time on BBC America.
Not a exhaustive list, but UK diesels YT channels Classic Traction, various diesels,I thought it was electrics; Dad Rail, train drivers view; National Railway Museum, from this very institution; Train_PlaneHub various videos. I stumbled across a video of a walk-around and startup of a class 66 diesel, it may be on one of the above channels. Very high nerd vibes. These were the UK oriented ones; if I listed continental, I would run out of page. Hope this helps. Of course you could come the dark side and go with *lightening* ELECTRIFICATION *thunder* *horses neighing*.
No eurostar trains lol....awesome video sir,.
Sadly missing from your highlights of the North Shed is the packaging from the last burger served on a GNER service
The reason for the name change is due to an apparent rebranding of the Science Museum, although it is still very much a National museum.
I think dropping the 'national' was just to drop it into the science museum family of names more neatly
I've probably visited the NRM (I don't care what it's called now. I'll walk around the NRM and eat my Marathon) more than any other museum in this land -and that's saying something, my mother was a habitual historical-interest-dragger-of-small-recalcitrant-children. In my youth I was forced to look at Roman mosaics, abbey ruins, castle ruins, whaling history, royal houses, stately homes (and gardens), old ships, paintings and a whole lot of other things five year olds have very little interest in. However, a visit to the NRM was always a delight, both as a child and remains so as a fifty three year old. In homage to my mum I also dragged my daughter there some years ago and I look forward to dragging my two granddaughters there in the coming months. I also know I'll get a little lump in my throat when I introduce them to the fastest steam locomotive in history and I'll maybe nod my head over to that LMS red thing and say, "well, this one was more powerful, but only because of Shap". :P
I'd like to hear more about 31 018, please.
A certain 3 going on 4 yr old spends his post-kindergarten afternoons here... and his 2nd request is usually ...".. A blue or black A4...or a Ja .." ( NZR development of the York-built J class, 4-6-2s, from about 1935 ). LeviNZ will show him this video...
We would like slightly longer videos from the museum, to walk us through, and guide us, show us everything. That is for us foreigners....
More!
i'll get to york (NRM) one day,...
Can you do a feature on the rather peculiar numbering in paint or cast metal that railway companies used, was it to save space that 7s looked like inverted 2s and so on ?
I've been here before it. Is very nice
what about Locomotion? a smaller branch of the (N)RM with the experiential APT on display
Also worth a visit 👍
Is Rocket on display? I went to the Science Museum in London two days ago and was surprised to learn that Rocket had left there in 2018 and since 2019 has been at NRM in York. (I think I saw it, and it’s coaches, in the background a couple of times in your video?)
"Yes please"
Jago - did you come across the Bulleid Q1 class at York? I'd be interested in knowing more about it and your thoughts on an 'interesting 'design.
hi jaggo
Please do a video on the 125.
Glad to see you got a shot of Rocket even though the station hall is closed. I feel it is a shame this is stuck away in a dark alcove even though it now bears little resemblance to how history recorded it at the Rainhill trials.
Superb, Jago. Thanks very much for another cracking video. Not wishing to ignite further inter pre-nationalisation strife my favourite locomotives are always those from the Southern. The Sectioned Merchant Navy and the Q1 are both wonderful. Would you have the chance (or the motivation) to make a video on Locomotion at Shildon?