I was waiting on the website, got the hero bundle in my cart with 2 seconds of going live. I then sat in a line for 5.5 hours. By the time I was first in line, everything was sold out. I will never try again to buy secret lairs. Don't support scalpers. Proxy everything.
Very sorry this happened to you. Amazonian streamed her waiting in the queue. About 2 hours in, someone shared a link that let her go straight to the checkout and complete her order. It seems like the queue was easy to skip. If people didn't know that, they could have ended up waiting in line while others simply jumped in and ordered.
I think the biggest power level problem is not Foundations having very good baseline cards, it's the 6 sets a year. It's absolutely possible to make other cards that compete with those cards without being strictly better and wizards has gotten pretty good at it. If they end up increasing power creep every set it won't be because they are forced to do it, but because they want it. The real issue is that you don't actually need power creep to increase the power level of standard, just lots of cards. The more options we get, the more we will be able to pick and choose and to make our decks better and stronger.
I've been saying Foundations is just Standard Horizons. Hearing Richard feels the same, I'm not sure if I should feel vindicated or be concerned about my sanity.
@@TheEvolver311Dreadhoard Arcanist, Snapcaster, Liliana and Bonecrusher Giant all left standard after dominating any deck for two years. That gives designers room to create a "weak" set that is cool for limited but doesn't see that much play in standart. Weak sets are what in the end slows down powercreep that happens over the years and what made modern what it was playing the best cards of the past 15 years. Now it is best of the last special product. The flashback Sphinx will stay until 2029 instead of 2026. Any new blue four-drop in standart has to be better or there will be no change in decks until 2029 or wizards will barely sell any packs. We know that won't happen. 😂
Allow me to propose an optimistic take, that foundations and its power level will enable draft to be more tuned. For example, If a series of new sets don’t want powerful Wraths in their limited environment, then WOTC designers won’t feel pressured to include a limited warping wrath in their set because standard already has day of judgment to fall back on
Not if the packs are "play boosters". From what analysis I've seen, play boosters are basically worse for everything compared to previously with draft and set boosters.
I hate to be the pessimist here, but as cool as that would be, it would be incredibly unlikely for them to do that. They've been printing at least one White Wrath in every set for a LONG time, and I frankly don't trust the design team to have the presence of mind to do what you just described.
I like the analogy that standard will be like 2015 modern. Having rotation every 5 years you can maintain better that “old modern” feel. idk how much it will affect the amount of sets coming to standard next year though
For me the biggest concern I have with foundations is actually the "build around" cards. This set is going to be legal for basically forever, which means any playable cards are going to see play for a long time. It's one thing to say "any decks that want mana dorks have llanowar elves" or "any deck that wants a wrath has day of judgement", it's another thing entirely to say "Elvish Archdruid always exists, so you're going to be playing against elfball forever and ever and ever".
Is okay, day of judgment forever legal will make sure Elves dont get off the ground :) (im kidding, and your critique is a good one, but im not sure if elfball is the deck to worry about)
@@FearOgre are you actually seeing elf Ball over and over tho? I havent had that issue at all, i think i saw what, 6-7 elf ball decks over 100 or so games
It’s possible that since this set needs to live for 5 years that this is the power bar not the floor. I don’t think they want a scenario where 3 years in the core set is useless and no one wants to buy any of it
They don't care, BUY NEW PRODUCTS is all they care about. Distribution centers buy it from them so they aren't sitting on the stock of it someone else is.
@ Long running product is inherently more profitable than new product because the development cost has already been spent. It makes sense as a purely profit motive to make Foundations a viable product for as long as possible
While from an operating cost perspective, it may make sense - from a company politics perspective, I bet you that Future Sets will be powercrept just as bad. Because while you are right that by reprinting foundations, they can always continue making money, if the _other_ sets then _don't_ make comparable money to previous UB sets, what do you think will the suits at WotC and Hasbro think about that? Do you think they will be happy that the revenue on sets newly made standard-legal, which are associated with licensing fees too boot, are lower than what they make on foundations? No, I don't think this will slow down powercreep in any meaningful way. I'm far more on Richard's POV - WotC basically ended Rotation for Standard, because they know it is meaningless. They will just have a Rotation within a Rotation, because the cards will rotate organically by power level.
@ I agree with you that there will be plenty of powercreep I just don’t necessarily think that the Final Fantasy set will immediately be significantly more powerful overall. I think the goal is that Foundations is more powerful than a normal core set because it needs to withstand 5x the powercreep. But eventually it’ll just be as strong as a normal core set. Just probably not by the end of next year. Wizards can have their cake and eat it too. You want solid meat and potatoes to go with your UB dessert
37:48 i just realized sire of seven deaths has seven sevens on it. The seven in the name, the mana cost, the eldazis in the art, the amount of keywords, the ward cost, and the power and toughness.
7 heads, 7 arms, 7 keywords, 7 ward cost, 7/7 stats Seven in the name and 7 mana value. That's eight. There appears to be 7 eyes on each tentacle maybe, to technically nine 7s
Getting a second Exquisite Blood effect is bananas. WOTC have done their hardest to keep it to 1 version for so lang. It's mostly going to be a Commander thing, because even outside of the combo, Exquisite Blood is insane because it virtually makes you immune to group-damage like Arabelle. But even outside of that, Vito into Conqueror is a 3-drop into 5 drop play
It will be power crept out before it rotates, when people say the UB sets are crazy for standard, they will point to foundations and say, UB sets need to outclass foundations.
I don't understand this take. Sure, previous UB sets were pretty good, but they weren't balanced around standard. Are you just assuming they are gonna print a The One Ring in every UB from now on or something?
@casteanpreswyn7528 Sheoldred went from the single most powerful creature in standard ran 4 of in every deck that had black and sometimes splashed black just to run it and had people calling for it to be banned because it was so oppressive to still legal and a 2 of most decks that run it and not even in most black decks anymore. That is an example of power creep in just 2 years and exactly what people are talking about. Wizards needs the new sets to sell, how do you sell new sets? You print cards that you have to have to play competitive decks, and how do cards become the new best cards in a 3 year format? They are more powerful than everything else in the format.
@casteanpreswyn7528 Are you assuming that they will balance UB sets to be _less_ powerful when they put them in a format they assumedly want to revitalize?
@@lVideoWatcherlThey know that's a double-edged sword, though. Eldraine was infamous. That said, UB is such a money maker that they're probably betting on just replacing all the people who get turned off by the power creep with new players. Which in the short run will probably work.
@@jyrinx I agree, it'll likely work in the short run. I assume you alluded to the same conviction I hold, which is that people that come from other franchises might buy into their specific franchise's product in mtg, but not into the game as a whole - especially when there is no "game as a whole" to buy into anymore, but rather just a hodgepodge of cheaply and unthinkingly made 'theme'-sets, or just even more sellout sets from other franchises.
The biggest hit against Alesha is that Cruelclaw exists. Same cost, but it doesn't die to Shock, Burst Lightning or Cut Down, has evasion and it can be devastating if it connects a single time.
@WiLDRAGE777 I think the thing that makes Alesha somewhat comparable, maybe even better in some ways is that she doesn’t need to attack, I feel like Alesha in the second main is gonna be a really strong play pattern
Foundation reminds me so much original Alpha set... We have the Llanowar Elves, Giant Growth, one mana 3 damage Bolt, 5 mana Dragon, Wrath of god, new Craw wurm, black Tutor, Savanah lions, lots of wierd junky rares... Love it.
39:30 im so glad someone mentioned fleshgorger, with so many early threats in standard right now, it having the option of being an early stabilizer is HUGE compared to the keyword soup of mr 7
I guess the good thing about loads of UB and powerful cards in Foundations is that UB cards could mostly be re-skin of powerful cards, people will buy them for the skin alone, UB sets could counterbalance powercreep (might be loads of copium though)
The audio and video sync seem to be off too. I've noticed a lot of their videos as of late, Seth in particular is like an old martial arts movie, where his mouth is moving out of sync with everything he's saying so it looks way off. It's harder to tell if it's out of sync for Richard or crim but it might be slightly off for everyone. It's fine if you're just listening, but if you're watching these videos lately, the quality is definitely lacking, because I've seen it recently with multiple videos. So something isn't quite working right.
Most likely someone’s speaker monitors are feeding back into the mic (they aren’t using headphones) and the auto echo cancellation isn’t catching it. I think it’s crim’s setup but not sure
Don't know if this is a hot take or not, but I think the card from Foundations that has the highest probability of catching a ban in the future is Llanowar Elves. Also I'm so sad that Spell Pierce wasn't in Foundations. That was the ONE card I was hoping would be put into the set.
I'll be honest, most of the time when I watch these, it feels like Richard is here to be anxious about every upcoming MTG anything, Crim is here to enjoy something about Magic regardless of what is going on, and Seth is here with the actual level-headed takes. It's like a depressed cop/manic cop/good cop situation
Isnt ward 7 basically haste on the eldrazi creature? If it does get removed well then it technically did its job as a big beater right? Instead of haste it has "etb: opponent discards a removal spell and loses 7 life." Isnt that better than having haste and it still gets removed before combat damage even goes through? 37:39
For some colours yes, but not all. There's ways of removing it that don't trigger the ward, including Wraths, Edicts and the new Nowhere to Run. It is a huge issue for decks without access to wraths, but all those colours should either be closing the game out before it happens or countering the card. There are cheatyface ways to get this big idiot down faster than normal, but Smuggler's is relatively slow and Kona only has 3 booty. The bottom line is Standard is so fast, aggro is so pushed and has multiple directions of attack that Timmy's mate here needed to be this insane to even have a shout of being a viable card.
To me, Sire of Seven Deaths is clearly a card made almost specifically for commander, everyone in my pod is excited to find ways to abuse the keyword soup, and 7 mana isnt really hard to reach early on in commander. As yall said, any deck with Odric is absolutely drooling right now, and conicidentally I just slotted him into my Selesnya deck a day before the preview. Im sure some nutter will find a way to work it in Standard.
Massively excited for Foundations. Preordered a box of everything already. Hoping this is what finally gets the kids into playing MTG with me -- though I do still enjoy Pokemon with them. Speaking of which I am totally with Crim on Pokemon Pocket. Amazing! I have no notifications for anything other than calls from my mum or my boss. But I get notifications when it's time to crack another free pack :)
about Sire of Seven Deaths, I think we might be underestimating the vigilance/lifelink aspect a little. Sure, he can't swing right away, but he can block mostly anything, even flyers, and gain you 7 life. And then, you will be smacking for a potencial 14 life swing, while keeping him untapped. I'm getting some Serra Angel vibes… It is a little overcosted at 7 mana, but it is generic mana and we have mana dorks
Commie Commander here, You know your channel is good and a set is good, when I a commander player since 2008, cube drafter since 2007, and multiplayer since 2003 is going to tune in. :) I think the only issue with Blasphemous Edict is the name, why oh why wasn't it Pact. It is actually easy to play around when you are casting it. So you can prep for it harm you less. Gotta watch out for T Pro though.
Sire's not op, or even that strong, but I *do* think you're really underselling Ward: 7 Life in a 20 life format. Yeah it doesn't mean much in Commander but 'if you want to remove this you take over a third of your total life' is pretty hefty.
100% agree with Seth about standard becoming old modern while modern is replaced with horizons sets! Major power creep and the cards being around for five years means there will be more overlap of combos and synergies as more time goes on. It makes sense to me as I feel like paper standard struggles post Arena. This is their revamp of formats
I feel like FDN provides 60-70% of a deck archetype, the "good enough" slot. The big bombastic cards are still gonna be from other sets, but this is that toolbox of "here's the red burn package" or "green ramp package" or "orzhov life gain package"
I think something else about Bloodthirsty Conquerer being a creature is that we have soul sisters effects in standard, and one was even printed in Foundations. So Conquerer entering can trigger the combo without even needing to hit the opponent. Idk if that outweighs the downsides of being creature but it is relevant I think
I am disappointed that stuff like Spell Pierce didn't get reprinted in Foundations. I would have thought that was a shoe in, at least in the Starter Kit, if not Booster Pack. I just want it legal again. Offer You Can't Refuse is okay (and a nice reprint to bring the price down), but it's worse in 1v1 formats than it is in Commander.
@@toddkimo8499 UW Control wouldn't play Spell Pierce except in the periodic sideboards for the mirror. Spell Pierce is there to fight Control decks, mostly used by small creature decks or Blue based ramp/midrange decks to protect their board states from spot removal and boardwipes. UW control didn't play Spell Pierce in the last standard when it was legal, and that wouldn't change in this meta either. Spell Pierce wouldn't break UW control, so calm down.
I think snapcaster Sphinx creature casts the most powerful card which is Sunfall. Feels silly but for 6 mana you rescue your snapcaster and cast Sunfall. Rinse repeat until they are dead. Reminds me of blue white decks when Yorion and Lier were the control deck. Along with Devide by Zero for the rescue.
Big blue control will be a thing, calling it right now. Examples of what you can do: - Season of Weaving can copy Gilded Lotus twice while drawing a card. You get 6 untapped mana this way, enough to cast Time Stop on opponent's turn. - 3 Gilded Lotuses + 5 Islands equals 14 mana, enough for Arcavios fetching Dopplegang for X=2. Two copies of Arcavios to redraw Doppelgang and finding the next Time Stop, two copies of Lotus for the required 6 mana. It's a LOCK. - Aetherize, which means no more being slowed down by white in deckbuilding - You can reanimate the new giant wizard (Archmage of Runes? iirc) with Reenact the Crime. It enters as a token, so it's another great synergy with Season of Weaving - You can ramp into Lotus thanks to Stern Lesson, which is card neutral and can be cast at instant speed. Under pressure? Aetherize. Opponent slows down? Stern Lesson. And so on. There's even Finale of Revelation in the set, although no good lands to untap (like Lotus Field, for example). There's no ring, but the revised version of Urza's Command does almost the same thing and can ramp as well if needed. It will be really, really interesting.
I feel like for Foundations to be a true support set and not a Modern Horizons block-style element, they needed to make sure that for any given archtype they either include only the basic enabling components of an archtype like Llanawar elves or payoff cards like Craterhoof, but not both halfs of the archtype. Then in theory they could try to control which archtypes are viable in standard by rotating out the missing pieces needed for specific decks.
I'm amazed right now, say what you want, I think Sire of Seven Deaths is gonna be able to do more than we are considering here. Playtested a little in decks with friends and the combination of menace and First strike makes this such a nightmare if you don't have removal right away, there are decks that regularly get up to 8 mana or more for doppelgang. it really needs to be considered what happens with any given creature if you untap with it cause it's gonna happen a fair bit
WOTC realized they could never compete with old modern. So apparently the solution is to ruin Modern with Horizons/UB sets and then turn up the power/rotation to turn Standard into Modern.
the thing that alesha does is that it gives the red/rakdos decks running around right now, long game. usually you win against the red decks by stalling them out, they run out of gas and if they dont kill you in the 1st 4 turns they tend to fold. alesha means they can keep bring threats at each turn and like Seth said, Alesha doesnt have to attack, you heartfire heros and swift spears will do all the work, but alesha will keep them coming
As a former long-time Modern Burn player, I think we're close to a Standard burn deck being playable, but a long way from a burn deck being a problem. As was mentioned in this podcast, burn requires a critical mass of burn to function. It looks like we'll either have that or be very close to it in Standard. Another thing that burn requires is not having a natural predator in the format. If there is a tier 1 deck that has access to main deck life gain, even if it is incremental, burn will be present, but not oppressive. Whether or not that natural predator will exist is yet to be seen. And finally, one of the most important reasons why Modern Burn was able to exist, is that it was able to punish the natural play patterns of a large portion of the format. Looking back at Modern from its inception through 2015, much of the format was either slow control, mana dork reliant midrange, or decks with greedy mana bases that would often do between 2-6 damage to the opponent for you. Not to mention the super greedy Jund decks back then, which had the same mana base issue but took it to a whole new level by playing Thoughtseize and Dark Confidant. Those decks would often make it so easy for burn that burn had to only commit 3-4 cards to actually kill the opponent in game 1.
Dragonhawk does trigger on ETB and in the vein of ye old Big Red, Sunspine Lynx & Red Overlord does too. I might play the Twinflame Tyrant & Terror of the peaks. I would love to see mono red dragons on much Abrew, maybe with a sunspine and overlord tagging along 🤔
Black commander decks already have a ton of synergies with creatures being sacrificed rather than destroyed and so I think I agree with Seth that Blasphemous Edict is better than Damnation. Not to mention Heroic Intervention effects and voltron commanders with indestructible
Re: Blasphemous Edict - It might be an overstatement to call it a generally good board wipe, but played in a Rakdos sac deck with all the right payoffs like Mayhem Devil, Syr Konrad, etc.? Great board wipe. All is Dust is my fav board wipe in my Juri EDH deck for exactly this reason.
Wait… how does Twinflame tyrant work with trample?? If it doubles the damage it does to the creatures, would it then trample over and then also double the excess damage dealt to the player??
The limited quantity system is broken. All of the marvel lairs were sold out by the time i got out of work. This should have been print to demand, but i guess Wotc prefers the business of scalpers.
I have to hard disagree on the assessment of sire of seven deaths when comparing to atraxa in a straight-up combat scenario. This kills attraxa first, the first strike trumps the death touch the reach blocks the flying. atraxa can't even functionally block this alone because it has menace. So this is the new atraxa hands down. This is the new best card to be playing in a ramp shell. And Atraxa and Sire will probably be in the same deck, a ramp-control shell that keeps the board clear early to set up the big beater. Phyrexian and Eldrazi unite!
is indestructible even worth it in 2024? we are at a point were I'm considering playing exiling cards even if they are more expansive than the destroy version simply because exile is so important to counter all the death trigger
Sire of seven death's is being talked about for modern just because of it's mana cost. Ugin's labyrinth cares about mana value 7+ and sire of course has a mana value of 7.
Does anyone else remember the dozens of times Seth talked about how boring it was to crack digital packs in MTG Arena? Seems like he’s completely forgotten that.
I remember when Carnage Tiran was actually great in Standard. And now, we're arguing that Sire of Seven Dust ain't good enough. Kind of how MTG goes, I guess haha.
I wanna know in what world they thought Regal Caracal is ok. I was banned in standard the last go around, and it was pre-banned in pioneer like WTF!!! SERIOUSLY!!!!
Not only was Regal Caracal never banned in Standard, it has also not been banned in any format ever. Furthermore, only fetches were pre-banned in Pioneer. You are thinking of Felidar Guardian, which in fact evaded a ban in Pioneer for a whole two weeks.
I'm buying a total of 3 play-sets of Land-Of-War, Twinflame Tyrant and Lyra Dawnbringer. I died wayyy to many times by the hands of Lyra last standard.
After seeing the set I don't think fundation is meant to be a baseline traditional style core set. It is more like a collection of staples for the next 5 years and some plants for the future (elf lords for lorwyn for example). Maybe this is a way wotc wants to adress rotation aversion in players ? If your deck is in large percent foundation it doesn't really rotates.
At the 7 minute mark Richard was saying how each set that follows has to be more powerful than the one before. It doesn’t have to. They should start intentionally powering down these sets. If players leave then players leave.
Alesha seems like a nice design though. In a curve out deck, it can reanimate anything you played t1 or t2 and died, and can get out of control if alesha herself starts attacking and reanimating 3 drops and sheoldreds. Might be too cute though, but i like it a lot i kinda just wish it reanimated the creature attacking, i think that might have been able to make it worth it
When i played tournaments 10 years ago some deck archetypes wouldnt have enough cards to be viable especially (midrange/control). This feels like their giving each color the "foundation" cards to make 1 viable deck
I was waiting on the website, got the hero bundle in my cart with 2 seconds of going live. I then sat in a line for 5.5 hours. By the time I was first in line, everything was sold out. I will never try again to buy secret lairs. Don't support scalpers. Proxy everything.
People not seeing this coming are actually stupid 😂
Sold out? Really? I added mine to the cart, in maybe 10-15sec. Was in line for 2 hours. Still got mine. That's weird.
Yeah I was thankful that it was still available after I waited 4 hours.
i quit after the Monty Python lair. never had a chance. i refuse to play that game
Very sorry this happened to you. Amazonian streamed her waiting in the queue. About 2 hours in, someone shared a link that let her go straight to the checkout and complete her order. It seems like the queue was easy to skip. If people didn't know that, they could have ended up waiting in line while others simply jumped in and ordered.
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how do you get that emoji
I’m trying to get that 80’s action star vibe going 🤣🤣🤣
I think the biggest power level problem is not Foundations having very good baseline cards, it's the 6 sets a year. It's absolutely possible to make other cards that compete with those cards without being strictly better and wizards has gotten pretty good at it. If they end up increasing power creep every set it won't be because they are forced to do it, but because they want it.
The real issue is that you don't actually need power creep to increase the power level of standard, just lots of cards. The more options we get, the more we will be able to pick and choose and to make our decks better and stronger.
I've been saying Foundations is just Standard Horizons. Hearing Richard feels the same, I'm not sure if I should feel vindicated or be concerned about my sanity.
It's not, the set isn't that strong it's a core set stop being dramatic
I think standard masters is more fitting, since a lot of the powerfull cards are reprints, like llanowar elves.
That's not what he said though, he said it'll be powercrept out by something like Horizons.
Maybe you are Richard. Have you checked that? 😂
@@TheEvolver311Dreadhoard Arcanist, Snapcaster, Liliana and Bonecrusher Giant all left standard after dominating any deck for two years.
That gives designers room to create a "weak" set that is cool for limited but doesn't see that much play in standart. Weak sets are what in the end slows down powercreep that happens over the years and what made modern what it was playing the best cards of the past 15 years. Now it is best of the last special product.
The flashback Sphinx will stay until 2029 instead of 2026. Any new blue four-drop in standart has to be better or there will be no change in decks until 2029 or wizards will barely sell any packs. We know that won't happen. 😂
Allow me to propose an optimistic take, that foundations and its power level will enable draft to be more tuned.
For example, If a series of new sets don’t want powerful Wraths in their limited environment, then WOTC designers won’t feel pressured to include a limited warping wrath in their set because standard already has day of judgment to fall back on
That's reasonable. Thx for the perspective.
Not if the packs are "play boosters". From what analysis I've seen, play boosters are basically worse for everything compared to previously with draft and set boosters.
I hate to be the pessimist here, but as cool as that would be, it would be incredibly unlikely for them to do that. They've been printing at least one White Wrath in every set for a LONG time, and I frankly don't trust the design team to have the presence of mind to do what you just described.
Lol wat
I like the analogy that standard will be like 2015 modern. Having rotation every 5 years you can maintain better that “old modern” feel. idk how much it will affect the amount of sets coming to standard next year though
For me the biggest concern I have with foundations is actually the "build around" cards. This set is going to be legal for basically forever, which means any playable cards are going to see play for a long time. It's one thing to say "any decks that want mana dorks have llanowar elves" or "any deck that wants a wrath has day of judgement", it's another thing entirely to say "Elvish Archdruid always exists, so you're going to be playing against elfball forever and ever and ever".
I don't think there is enough for elves in foundations to make elfball a constant sight.
Is okay, day of judgment forever legal will make sure Elves dont get off the ground :)
(im kidding, and your critique is a good one, but im not sure if elfball is the deck to worry about)
The cards are too weak compared to post 2019 power creep.
@@irou95Llanowar elves is not though
@@FearOgre are you actually seeing elf Ball over and over tho? I havent had that issue at all, i think i saw what, 6-7 elf ball decks over 100 or so games
It’s possible that since this set needs to live for 5 years that this is the power bar not the floor. I don’t think they want a scenario where 3 years in the core set is useless and no one wants to buy any of it
They don't care, BUY NEW PRODUCTS is all they care about. Distribution centers buy it from them so they aren't sitting on the stock of it someone else is.
@ Long running product is inherently more profitable than new product because the development cost has already been spent. It makes sense as a purely profit motive to make Foundations a viable product for as long as possible
While from an operating cost perspective, it may make sense - from a company politics perspective, I bet you that Future Sets will be powercrept just as bad. Because while you are right that by reprinting foundations, they can always continue making money, if the _other_ sets then _don't_ make comparable money to previous UB sets, what do you think will the suits at WotC and Hasbro think about that? Do you think they will be happy that the revenue on sets newly made standard-legal, which are associated with licensing fees too boot, are lower than what they make on foundations?
No, I don't think this will slow down powercreep in any meaningful way. I'm far more on Richard's POV - WotC basically ended Rotation for Standard, because they know it is meaningless. They will just have a Rotation within a Rotation, because the cards will rotate organically by power level.
@ I agree with you that there will be plenty of powercreep I just don’t necessarily think that the Final Fantasy set will immediately be significantly more powerful overall. I think the goal is that Foundations is more powerful than a normal core set because it needs to withstand 5x the powercreep. But eventually it’ll just be as strong as a normal core set. Just probably not by the end of next year. Wizards can have their cake and eat it too. You want solid meat and potatoes to go with your UB dessert
37:48 i just realized sire of seven deaths has seven sevens on it. The seven in the name, the mana cost, the eldazis in the art, the amount of keywords, the ward cost, and the power and toughness.
Also Eldrazi is seven letters
7 heads, 7 arms, 7 keywords, 7 ward cost, 7/7 stats Seven in the name and 7 mana value. That's eight. There appears to be 7 eyes on each tentacle maybe, to technically nine 7s
Now count the flavor text
@mindhackz 2 logical groups of 7 lol
I was going to like your post but noticed it currently has 7 😊😄
Getting a second Exquisite Blood effect is bananas. WOTC have done their hardest to keep it to 1 version for so lang.
It's mostly going to be a Commander thing, because even outside of the combo, Exquisite Blood is insane because it virtually makes you immune to group-damage like Arabelle.
But even outside of that, Vito into Conqueror is a 3-drop into 5 drop play
It will be power crept out before it rotates, when people say the UB sets are crazy for standard, they will point to foundations and say, UB sets need to outclass foundations.
I don't understand this take. Sure, previous UB sets were pretty good, but they weren't balanced around standard. Are you just assuming they are gonna print a The One Ring in every UB from now on or something?
@casteanpreswyn7528 Sheoldred went from the single most powerful creature in standard ran 4 of in every deck that had black and sometimes splashed black just to run it and had people calling for it to be banned because it was so oppressive to still legal and a 2 of most decks that run it and not even in most black decks anymore. That is an example of power creep in just 2 years and exactly what people are talking about. Wizards needs the new sets to sell, how do you sell new sets? You print cards that you have to have to play competitive decks, and how do cards become the new best cards in a 3 year format? They are more powerful than everything else in the format.
@casteanpreswyn7528 Are you assuming that they will balance UB sets to be _less_ powerful when they put them in a format they assumedly want to revitalize?
@@lVideoWatcherlThey know that's a double-edged sword, though. Eldraine was infamous. That said, UB is such a money maker that they're probably betting on just replacing all the people who get turned off by the power creep with new players. Which in the short run will probably work.
@@jyrinx I agree, it'll likely work in the short run. I assume you alluded to the same conviction I hold, which is that people that come from other franchises might buy into their specific franchise's product in mtg, but not into the game as a whole - especially when there is no "game as a whole" to buy into anymore, but rather just a hodgepodge of cheaply and unthinkingly made 'theme'-sets, or just even more sellout sets from other franchises.
The biggest hit against Alesha is that Cruelclaw exists. Same cost, but it doesn't die to Shock, Burst Lightning or Cut Down, has evasion and it can be devastating if it connects a single time.
@WiLDRAGE777 I think the thing that makes Alesha somewhat comparable, maybe even better in some ways is that she doesn’t need to attack, I feel like Alesha in the second main is gonna be a really strong play pattern
Foundation reminds me so much original Alpha set... We have the Llanowar Elves, Giant Growth, one mana 3 damage Bolt, 5 mana Dragon, Wrath of god, new Craw wurm, black Tutor, Savanah lions, lots of wierd junky rares... Love it.
Everyone says that Boltwave is multiplayer Lava Spike, I saw this from the get go as 1 mana Sizzle
39:30 im so glad someone mentioned fleshgorger, with so many early threats in standard right now, it having the option of being an early stabilizer is HUGE compared to the keyword soup of mr 7
I guess the good thing about loads of UB and powerful cards in Foundations is that UB cards could mostly be re-skin of powerful cards, people will buy them for the skin alone, UB sets could counterbalance powercreep (might be loads of copium though)
anyone else hear an echo of Richard's voice sometimes?
Crim sometimes too.
The audio and video sync seem to be off too. I've noticed a lot of their videos as of late, Seth in particular is like an old martial arts movie, where his mouth is moving out of sync with everything he's saying so it looks way off. It's harder to tell if it's out of sync for Richard or crim but it might be slightly off for everyone. It's fine if you're just listening, but if you're watching these videos lately, the quality is definitely lacking, because I've seen it recently with multiple videos. So something isn't quite working right.
Is there a small Richard on your shoulder telling everything new is bad or overpowered? That everything used to be better.
Most likely someone’s speaker monitors are feeding back into the mic (they aren’t using headphones) and the auto echo cancellation isn’t catching it. I think it’s crim’s setup but not sure
Seth's headphones were so loud that you could sometimes hear the other dudes through Seth's mic
Don't know if this is a hot take or not, but I think the card from Foundations that has the highest probability of catching a ban in the future is Llanowar Elves.
Also I'm so sad that Spell Pierce wasn't in Foundations. That was the ONE card I was hoping would be put into the set.
A fellow spell pierce enjoyer let down… wotc is a terrorist organization
I was shocked they put Llanowar Elves back in standard. Then again it is one of the most iconic cards in MTG.
@TheForeverRanger
Why shocked? It was just in Standard a few rotations back it's obviously not retired like Lightning Bolt.
@@TheEvolver311when was it last in standard? Not in the last five years as far as I remember.
@@silphonymgoing from memory i want to say 2017/18 but my memory is unreliable 😅
Scalpers and bots feasted with the Secret Lair drop. WotC won't care because money is money
UB. Players deserve nothing less. 😇
People need to not buy from the scalpers. This way it's not a business model for them
@@Greatestnesss Whales are going to whale.
Richard being worried about Foundations confirms it's going to ne absolutely fine
I'll be honest, most of the time when I watch these, it feels like Richard is here to be anxious about every upcoming MTG anything, Crim is here to enjoy something about Magic regardless of what is going on, and Seth is here with the actual level-headed takes. It's like a depressed cop/manic cop/good cop situation
I cringe often when I hear his opions. Don´t want to be rude about it. I bet he has alot of fun, which is most important....
Isnt ward 7 basically haste on the eldrazi creature? If it does get removed well then it technically did its job as a big beater right? Instead of haste it has "etb: opponent discards a removal spell and loses 7 life." Isnt that better than having haste and it still gets removed before combat damage even goes through? 37:39
For some colours yes, but not all. There's ways of removing it that don't trigger the ward, including Wraths, Edicts and the new Nowhere to Run. It is a huge issue for decks without access to wraths, but all those colours should either be closing the game out before it happens or countering the card. There are cheatyface ways to get this big idiot down faster than normal, but Smuggler's is relatively slow and Kona only has 3 booty.
The bottom line is Standard is so fast, aggro is so pushed and has multiple directions of attack that Timmy's mate here needed to be this insane to even have a shout of being a viable card.
To me, Sire of Seven Deaths is clearly a card made almost specifically for commander, everyone in my pod is excited to find ways to abuse the keyword soup, and 7 mana isnt really hard to reach early on in commander. As yall said, any deck with Odric is absolutely drooling right now, and conicidentally I just slotted him into my Selesnya deck a day before the preview. Im sure some nutter will find a way to work it in Standard.
Play both dragons. Twinflame tyrant, however, breaks screaming nemesis in a big red, possibly splash deck.
Standard Masters/Horizons. Set is looking pretty sweet! Loving the full art treatment on the lower rarity cards.
Massively excited for Foundations. Preordered a box of everything already.
Hoping this is what finally gets the kids into playing MTG with me -- though I do still enjoy Pokemon with them.
Speaking of which I am totally with Crim on Pokemon Pocket. Amazing! I have no notifications for anything other than calls from my mum or my boss. But I get notifications when it's time to crack another free pack :)
about Sire of Seven Deaths, I think we might be underestimating the vigilance/lifelink aspect a little. Sure, he can't swing right away, but he can block mostly anything, even flyers, and gain you 7 life. And then, you will be smacking for a potencial 14 life swing, while keeping him untapped. I'm getting some Serra Angel vibes… It is a little overcosted at 7 mana, but it is generic mana and we have mana dorks
Standard is defiantly the new modern, will be interesting to see how this plays out in the long term
Commie Commander here,
You know your channel is good and a set is good, when I a commander player since 2008, cube drafter since 2007, and multiplayer since 2003 is going to tune in. :) I think the only issue with Blasphemous Edict is the name, why oh why wasn't it Pact. It is actually easy to play around when you are casting it. So you can prep for it harm you less.
Gotta watch out for T Pro though.
Don't forget, Stasis Snare is standard legal for 5 years now.
Sire's not op, or even that strong, but I *do* think you're really underselling Ward: 7 Life in a 20 life format. Yeah it doesn't mean much in Commander but 'if you want to remove this you take over a third of your total life' is pretty hefty.
It's not the first one that gets you. It's the second.
100% agree with Seth about standard becoming old modern while modern is replaced with horizons sets! Major power creep and the cards being around for five years means there will be more overlap of combos and synergies as more time goes on. It makes sense to me as I feel like paper standard struggles post Arena. This is their revamp of formats
MTGgoldfish alwaysputting out these killer podcasts! Keep it up guys!
I feel like FDN provides 60-70% of a deck archetype, the "good enough" slot. The big bombastic cards are still gonna be from other sets, but this is that toolbox of "here's the red burn package" or "green ramp package" or "orzhov life gain package"
I think something else about Bloodthirsty Conquerer being a creature is that we have soul sisters effects in standard, and one was even printed in Foundations. So Conquerer entering can trigger the combo without even needing to hit the opponent. Idk if that outweighs the downsides of being creature but it is relevant I think
Remember when Thragtusk/Resto Angel was op? I member
I am disappointed that stuff like Spell Pierce didn't get reprinted in Foundations. I would have thought that was a shoe in, at least in the Starter Kit, if not Booster Pack. I just want it legal again. Offer You Can't Refuse is okay (and a nice reprint to bring the price down), but it's worse in 1v1 formats than it is in Commander.
Are you crazy? I do not want to play a Standard where UW Control has access to both Day of Judgement and Spell Pierce.
@@toddkimo8499 UW Control wouldn't play Spell Pierce except in the periodic sideboards for the mirror. Spell Pierce is there to fight Control decks, mostly used by small creature decks or Blue based ramp/midrange decks to protect their board states from spot removal and boardwipes.
UW control didn't play Spell Pierce in the last standard when it was legal, and that wouldn't change in this meta either. Spell Pierce wouldn't break UW control, so calm down.
I think snapcaster Sphinx creature casts the most powerful card which is Sunfall. Feels silly but for 6 mana you rescue your snapcaster and cast Sunfall. Rinse repeat until they are dead. Reminds me of blue white decks when Yorion and Lier were the control deck. Along with Devide by Zero for the rescue.
The lowered reanimation baseline with that card from Assassin's Creed, 4 mana and it has a freerun cost too
Raise the past is so awesome :)
Big blue control will be a thing, calling it right now. Examples of what you can do:
- Season of Weaving can copy Gilded Lotus twice while drawing a card. You get 6 untapped mana this way, enough to cast Time Stop on opponent's turn.
- 3 Gilded Lotuses + 5 Islands equals 14 mana, enough for Arcavios fetching Dopplegang for X=2. Two copies of Arcavios to redraw Doppelgang and finding the next Time Stop, two copies of Lotus for the required 6 mana. It's a LOCK.
- Aetherize, which means no more being slowed down by white in deckbuilding
- You can reanimate the new giant wizard (Archmage of Runes? iirc) with Reenact the Crime. It enters as a token, so it's another great synergy with Season of Weaving
- You can ramp into Lotus thanks to Stern Lesson, which is card neutral and can be cast at instant speed. Under pressure? Aetherize. Opponent slows down? Stern Lesson.
And so on. There's even Finale of Revelation in the set, although no good lands to untap (like Lotus Field, for example). There's no ring, but the revised version of Urza's Command does almost the same thing and can ramp as well if needed.
It will be really, really interesting.
The strength of the set only shows how powerful the coming sets will be
I feel like for Foundations to be a true support set and not a Modern Horizons block-style element, they needed to make sure that for any given archtype they either include only the basic enabling components of an archtype like Llanawar elves or payoff cards like Craterhoof, but not both halfs of the archtype. Then in theory they could try to control which archtypes are viable in standard by rotating out the missing pieces needed for specific decks.
54:25 is Richard assuming Asuza and W&6 are the same card? Like both effects at once haha
Or crucible of worlds I guess hahaha
I'm amazed right now, say what you want, I think Sire of Seven Deaths is gonna be able to do more than we are considering here. Playtested a little in decks with friends and the combination of menace and First strike makes this such a nightmare if you don't have removal right away, there are decks that regularly get up to 8 mana or more for doppelgang. it really needs to be considered what happens with any given creature if you untap with it cause it's gonna happen a fair bit
WOTC realized they could never compete with old modern. So apparently the solution is to ruin Modern with Horizons/UB sets and then turn up the power/rotation to turn Standard into Modern.
I commented on a video a few days ago that Standard feels like Modern of old because of how fast, but grindy it can be.
Alesha does Not due to Doom Blade.
Commander foundation is looking lit
Boltwave is made - MONO RED BURN IS BACK ON THE MENU!
After noticing that single lock of Crim's blue hair flapping in the wind I couldn't focus on anything else.
Great podcast. Though fix the echo audio guys!
headphone bleed
Does crims voice always have an echo effect on and this is the first time I noticed it?
headphone bleed
the thing that alesha does is that it gives the red/rakdos decks running around right now, long game. usually you win against the red decks by stalling them out, they run out of gas and if they dont kill you in the 1st 4 turns they tend to fold. alesha means they can keep bring threats at each turn and like Seth said, Alesha doesnt have to attack, you heartfire heros and swift spears will do all the work, but alesha will keep them coming
Next week, can you guys please make Richard admit he was wrong that WOTC could “estimate the demand” for secret lair drops?
Blasphemous Edict definitely goin in my Lanius deck
As a former long-time Modern Burn player, I think we're close to a Standard burn deck being playable, but a long way from a burn deck being a problem. As was mentioned in this podcast, burn requires a critical mass of burn to function. It looks like we'll either have that or be very close to it in Standard. Another thing that burn requires is not having a natural predator in the format. If there is a tier 1 deck that has access to main deck life gain, even if it is incremental, burn will be present, but not oppressive. Whether or not that natural predator will exist is yet to be seen. And finally, one of the most important reasons why Modern Burn was able to exist, is that it was able to punish the natural play patterns of a large portion of the format. Looking back at Modern from its inception through 2015, much of the format was either slow control, mana dork reliant midrange, or decks with greedy mana bases that would often do between 2-6 damage to the opponent for you. Not to mention the super greedy Jund decks back then, which had the same mana base issue but took it to a whole new level by playing Thoughtseize and Dark Confidant. Those decks would often make it so easy for burn that burn had to only commit 3-4 cards to actually kill the opponent in game 1.
Dragonhawk does trigger on ETB and in the vein of ye old Big Red, Sunspine Lynx & Red Overlord does too. I might play the Twinflame Tyrant & Terror of the peaks. I would love to see mono red dragons on much Abrew, maybe with a sunspine and overlord tagging along 🤔
Black commander decks already have a ton of synergies with creatures being sacrificed rather than destroyed and so I think I agree with Seth that Blasphemous Edict is better than Damnation. Not to mention Heroic Intervention effects and voltron commanders with indestructible
I only formally know Seth as SAFFRON OLIVE because that’s what he tells me every episode.
Isn’t kylometers the mod for r/magictcg? Or is that a different kylometers?
Your going to have to run screaming nemesis to stop the life gain drain combo
Here's a home for Sphinx of Forgotten Lore: burn.
Bats is already a semi-good deck in standard. I could see Bloodthirsty Conqueror slotting into that quite nicely.
Yes very much. I run bats with enduring tenacity already and it's amazing
Isn't paying the ward just like giving it haste?
Re: Blasphemous Edict - It might be an overstatement to call it a generally good board wipe, but played in a Rakdos sac deck with all the right payoffs like Mayhem Devil, Syr Konrad, etc.? Great board wipe. All is Dust is my fav board wipe in my Juri EDH deck for exactly this reason.
Holy shit, if we get a tsunami of power creep after what we've already gotten there won't be a game left, YGO here we go!
Wait… how does Twinflame tyrant work with trample??
If it doubles the damage it does to the creatures, would it then trample over and then also double the excess damage dealt to the player??
The limited quantity system is broken. All of the marvel lairs were sold out by the time i got out of work. This should have been print to demand, but i guess Wotc prefers the business of scalpers.
I got my foil set, so stoked
I am surprised that Seth didn't Lament that they effectively put The Mono Blue Tempo deck he loathed into standard for 5 years.
42:25 He says, despite the literal panharmonicon on a body Elesh Norn seeing no play whatsoever.
With elenda I am not sure, as against monored, you have to block creatures that get pumped to the moon and her protection doesn't help against that...
I fucking hate this secret lair system so much. 14 hour shift in the hospital just to come home and see everything is sold out.
I'd love a MtG like pokemon. It'd be amazing if they have it where if you collect over 4 of one kind you can send them to arena or online
I have to hard disagree on the assessment of sire of seven deaths when comparing to atraxa in a straight-up combat scenario. This kills attraxa first, the first strike trumps the death touch the reach blocks the flying. atraxa can't even functionally block this alone because it has menace. So this is the new atraxa hands down. This is the new best card to be playing in a ramp shell.
And Atraxa and Sire will probably be in the same deck, a ramp-control shell that keeps the board clear early to set up the big beater. Phyrexian and Eldrazi unite!
You’re missing that Atraxa draws 5 cards. This card is strictly for Urborg Scavengers/Odric effects
You forgot the card draw from atraxa
Dat angel looks so fun though
Richard with quick fingers to stop the echoing
Having llanowar elves available for 5 years... damn, too OP
is indestructible even worth it in 2024? we are at a point were I'm considering playing exiling cards even if they are more expansive than the destroy version simply because exile is so important to counter all the death trigger
Sire of seven death's is being talked about for modern just because of it's mana cost. Ugin's labyrinth cares about mana value 7+ and sire of course has a mana value of 7.
Does anyone else remember the dozens of times Seth talked about how boring it was to crack digital packs in MTG Arena? Seems like he’s completely forgotten that.
Yay I love these podcasts!! Great job MTG goldfish
I remember when Carnage Tiran was actually great in Standard. And now, we're arguing that Sire of Seven Dust ain't good enough. Kind of how MTG goes, I guess haha.
I wanna know in what world they thought Regal Caracal is ok. I was banned in standard the last go around, and it was pre-banned in pioneer like WTF!!! SERIOUSLY!!!!
Why?
*edit wtf drugs are you on
Not only was Regal Caracal never banned in Standard, it has also not been banned in any format ever.
Furthermore, only fetches were pre-banned in Pioneer. You are thinking of Felidar Guardian, which in fact evaded a ban in Pioneer for a whole two weeks.
I think you're thinking of a different card. A 5 mana lord that makes 2 1/1s would never and has never been banned
I wonder if there can be a deck that kills with crime lands and damage modifiers.
I'm buying a total of 3 play-sets of Land-Of-War, Twinflame Tyrant and Lyra Dawnbringer. I died wayyy to many times by the hands of Lyra last standard.
Due to airflow, presumably from a ventilator, Crim's blue hair sometimes forms some sort of ahoge during the episode. Lol
Bombastic set
They should print a Two mana of red creature that's like a 2/1
No key words
When thiss creature attacks it deals three damage to any target
Magic Players < Universes Beyond Players < Bots vs.?
Where does the chain reconnect? 🤔
I am dropping twitter as well. So if ya’ll become active on Blue Sky that would be great
Crims going in and out of delay. It’s good
After seeing the set I don't think fundation is meant to be a baseline traditional style core set. It is more like a collection of staples for the next 5 years and some plants for the future (elf lords for lorwyn for example). Maybe this is a way wotc wants to adress rotation aversion in players ? If your deck is in large percent foundation it doesn't really rotates.
At the 7 minute mark Richard was saying how each set that follows has to be more powerful than the one before.
It doesn’t have to. They should start intentionally powering down these sets. If players leave then players leave.
bat into Alesha seems pretty good to me
Alesha seems like a nice design though. In a curve out deck, it can reanimate anything you played t1 or t2 and died, and can get out of control if alesha herself starts attacking and reanimating 3 drops and sheoldreds. Might be too cute though, but i like it a lot i kinda just wish it reanimated the creature attacking, i think that might have been able to make it worth it
I hope in the coming years Gruul goes back to big smashy creatures, I've never been a spell slinger sort of guy, i miss the days of Gruul Spellbreaker
Blasphemous Edict gets around the mode on boros charm.
Im a lil confused why does azuza need fetchlands to work?
When i played tournaments 10 years ago some deck archetypes wouldnt have enough cards to be viable especially (midrange/control). This feels like their giving each color the "foundation" cards to make 1 viable deck
Everyone else: Foundations is pretty weak.
These guys: Is this set too strong!?!?!