IIT jee is one of the hard exam in world bcz seats in iit limited and candidate which apply for iit is in lakhs ,and our traditional education system follow more theoretical knowledge
“A small percentage (less than 15% of a graduating batch) of the students go abroad for higher studies. Others stay back,” said IIT-Guwahati director Gautam Biswas 03-Dec-2021
Grass Is Greener on the Other Side: Return Migration of Indian Engineers and Scientists in Academia This article focuses on why academic engineers and scientists from developing countries leave developed countries to return to their countries of birth. Data for this study comes from a National Science Foundation-funded study with 83 engineers and scientists who returned to India after study and work in U.S. universities. Better career prospects in India namely ample funding available for research, less competition for grants, ability to work on theoretical topics, and freedom in research objectives emerged as the key factors that prompted return. These findings, therefore, differ with return migration of industrial engineers and scientists who moved back primarily to start companies in India and immigration challenges in the United States. With very little scholarly work on return migration of academic engineers and scientists, this study expands the understanding of high skilled migration in a globalized world. Global DE-DOLLARIZATION. BRICS to kick out US dollar, use national currencies instead>petro-dollar will cease>interests on loans in ths US will touch 11 %... soon US will become another EUROPE with 1% GDP growth.... AN OPPORTUNIST WOULD NEVER UNDERSTAND IT THOUGH
@@DurgaPrasad-oq1uu now IITs graduate about 20000 - true not even 20% (around 4000) of them go abroad for higher studies or jobs - but around 125000 go to usa alone - that means 121000 students from other institutions go abroad for studies - what does it mean - people leave India for immigration and jobs? It is good for India - as people who could not go abroad get jobs in India.
Ok Now lemme tell u my story I achieved AIR 7310 In JEE Mains 2022 and AIR 6190 in JEE ADVANCED 2022. Now anyone with 6k rank can get IIT easily but I choose IIIT Gwalior over IIT. because I can't get CS branch with 6k rank in IIT. And lemme tell u guys it's NOT WORTH IT, We have to study each and everything on our own here. I don't understand why Professors don't put efforts on us. I agree our college has 28 LPA avg pckg, 2 crore highest package. But that is only because of students' hardwork, College don't give a shit about us 🥲🫠
@@vinayak9236 No, I am saying ki these colleges don't put efforts on u to study. Same situation is in IITs Always prefer your interest over anything For your information IIIT Gwalior is the oldest IIIT and has highest placement after Hyderabad and Allahabad
IISc is better when it comes to Research. And no wonder they are on the top QS Ranking 155. I once visited there, and the vibe hits different. Lot of passionate people. I think, this year they introduced A BTech Course on Computing and Mathematics. Hope, the next generation JEE Advanced takers look out for this.
One of my neighbour who got rank in 200s got a 8 lakh package as he didn't focus on technical stuff after getting into , whereas one of my friends brother who passed out from a tier 3 college got into PhD in Colombia University. Studying in top universities won't make anyone a great researcher or job professional she/ he has to work on it . Satya , Indira and santanu Narayanan or venkataraman ramakrishna wasn't from any iit . Many iitians who claim to the founders are mostly copy paste products of USA , even they struggle to make profit inspite of huge funding. Many iitians were interested in coming out of the country before 90s as the jobs were quite low but nowaday iitians are staying in india. The obsession of USA or studying abroad very high in india especially i am from Hyderabad i just see a lot telugu people obsessed with USA Initially in USA the Ranking of universities may matter in USA later it won't .
True, two of my acquaintance went to a tier 3 college in a very small town (the college was even smaller than my school and no body knows the name of that college either) but they worked really hard and one of them is in samsung (after 5 years of grinding after graduating) and her salary is more than 2 lakh a month and the other one is in Mercedes in GERMANY both of them are doing really well. People used to laugh at them since they went to such a small college. And I know people from IITs who work under them.
What's funny is that he mentioned snapdeal as a success story of an IITian🤣. Snapdeal is one of the worst online shopping sites on the planet. The entire system of snapdeal is shady and untrustworthy. I literally don't see anyone around me using snapdeal.
He is thinking like that iiT is the one which gives you money & happiness It's bull shit give respect to all courses other courses are far better than iiT to live happily 😀😀😀
Only in India, this mentality of going to top ranked university is the only correct course of action exists. In USA, there are literally thousands of students who get admission to top universities like Columbia, Cornell, MIT etc. but because of their personal reasons, finance etc. choose other lower ranked universities.
The right information you have provided. In India, children are taught to chase job packages and entrance exams. We prepare for exams only to clear not to gain insight into knowledge. That's why students abroad aren't bothered to give entrance exams but they are keen on research and development in the world. India should need to learn from this, especially from the education minister and professors.
Dude, I have friends who haven't gone to IITs, wrote one conference paper and is still persuing PhD from an ivy league college in USA. It doesn't matter how many papers you write, it's the content that matters. Don't race after increasing the number of papers in your inventory.
@@SinghinUSA II think it's not that hard to get admission to one of the ivy league schools if you fulfill their criteria, and the most crucial aspect is to pay for their tuition fees for the Master's program. It's not always about paper. If your area of research matches the professor's research area, then the chances are higher that anyone can get into these schools.
@@SinghinUSA bro you said if I'm not from iit then I can't go aboard for Master's and phd in top class institution there is my chances to get in world's top collage or university is almost 0 percentage but many of bits students go aboard after ug and specifically in top collage
Journal papers are NOT always more valuable than conference papers. In CS, and especially in AI/ML, top conferences such as ICML, NeurIPS etc., are very selective and much more valuable than any journal publication.
@NAMAN GUPTA My comment was made NOT to establish/claim that IITs publish in reputed conferences. I simply wanted to convey that it’s NOT NECESSARILY the case that journals are more prestigious than conferences, regardless of the college/org. that’s trying to publish.
make such videos for MEDICAL students in india too !! cover topics like student to selection ratio of entrance tests ( NEET ) lemme give an example if there are approx 18 lakh students giving NEET (like this year) the selection in any medical college ( gov college and private colleges) is only a lakh or so seats to get admission in a medical college ( only talking about MBBS ) and further more examples after mbbs so see the ratio how poor is it !! and moreover like you said in the video ( just my oppinion too) this 1 lakh or so seats have to adjust reservation too so more competion to general category students so nerve breaking is this !!
Yes..and flexibility of choosing subject is very very less even if it is within a particular department too. And yes as per my past experience of knowledge and rapid change of life and economy the interdisciplinary subject is needed into course bucket list both to grow the skills of hard and soft as competition is very very high and due to internet and after corona many information is easily available from home too. EYE OPENING VIDEO
There is a big reason behind why students want high package is that.........still a large population of India is suffering from poverty.......and to have a better life for them and for their family.......iits are the best option........where you get both respect and a high chance of getting a good package
Yeh harnoor Singh kch jaida bda chada rha iits ko mota moti yeh baat jaan lo ussr unseco apne faide k liye iits ko bnanaya hai ki detail k liye Rajeev Dixit ka channel dekhlooo
I want to say just one thing. There is one major difference between IISc and IITs. IIsc takes admission for only Masters and PhD wherever in IITs people go mostly for undergrads. So it is obvious that IIsc will have more journals and package also would be high.
IISc Bengaluru is the best institute in India and has highest reputation in foreign.. It is fully devoted to science and research, whereas IITs are more for engineering and technology, most of the scientists persue MSC/PhD from IISc..
I honestly don't know why did you State aerospace engineering as worst major. Shame on you, don't just consider computer science engineering as always the best, respect other fields of engineering too
@@vishalsingh-gs4id haha bruh it's just in India. There are many i mean many companies for aerospace industry, I'm an aerospace major student final year, and I'm doing my internship at Boeing, Germany. And just so you didn't know if you are in a good uni in a good country, nothing's stopping you.
Not just IIT but poor people from villages in Punjab to rich people like ambani ( he got his grandson born in America) want to leave India …. Life just sucks so much in India that going abroad is not even a difficult decision 😂
@@vinayak9236 how many people do you know personally in India … 100 or let’s say 200 ? … rest are all strangers anyways … you can easily find those 200 Desis anywhere you go in the world and also a bunch of strangers …. You won’t miss Indian culture and food in most western and middle eastern countries
I understand the Research mindset thing......but the reality is that most the Indian students are from lower middle class or middle class families.....so their primary objective in life is to secure their future first...... personally I will choose a better paying job instead of a good Research college
I am From Nepal & my Maternal home is in Varanasi India My father is Alumni of NIT Rourkela , I started my JEE preparation in Class 11th and then I cracked JEE Advanced, JEE Mains , RMO . JEE Mains 2021 98.7%ile , JEE Advanced 13981 in 2021 in my first attempt, I was Getting IIT BOMBAY CSE through Foreign Category (10% supernumaray quota) but the fees was around 8000$ per year , so I couldn't afford it , but Then I got Full scholarship in NIT Rourkela CSE through Indian Embassy so I joined NIT Rourkela CSE . Still I feel very sad not joining IIT Bombay CSE because of the High fees and we as a foreign Student can't get education loan in India to study whether you get admitted to IIT Bombay
Sorry to know that. Missed opportunity but it doesn’t matter in the long run. you are in a good colleges /NIT. For jobs only your subject knowledge & talent counts more than college.
I was working as a RF engineer(Drive test & optimization) in Dehradun for Ericsson BSNL network and one guy from BSNL asked me to help his relative who was doing PHD in IIT Rorkee on his thesis which was on studying effect of rain on mobile signals, After meeting him and talking to him I felt like he is just doing it for the sake of doctorate degree as it was a useless study not needed which he was emphasising no one has ever done, he was also trying to sell me a MTECH degree from some local University. After that my opinion on IIT changed and I didn't regard it that highly. I was also saddened by the state of research from the highest institution in the country.
This video provides one of the most balanced and unbiased take on the reality of tier 1 education system of india. Well done Harnoor. Going through these realisations mysef in past 9 years (2 years if JEE prep, 4 years of NIT, 3 years of global work experience), I can confirm this is a great video. I wished to have such a video back when i started on this path in 2013 but none existed. It’s important to differentiate between a marketing material, opinions and an information material. Videos we see from official channels of colleges, programs etc are marketing material. Review and reaction videos are opinions. Information videos are rare and tough to make and need extensive research and interviews. Something which you clearly did either for this video or just overtime with your experience. Well done!
Fact : We're giving seats to the students who just gathered information to crack JEE but not to those students who has critical thinking, creativity and knowledge.
@@sanjiv5974 what creative thinking, cutting a charged sphere from inside and finding electric field of cavity is not a creative question, it's a stupid hypothesis on which they frame a goofy and senseless problem to solve😂😂
This video is totally wrong and misleading, 90% iitians don't want to leave India. , IIT Delhi and Bombay are 174 and 172 world rank respectively which makes your heading wrong ❌. Please dont make such contect just for viewership
Hey are you at iit-d. If possible can you suggest a branch v/s college opinion. I am interested in cs and maths. But practically speaking won't work out for me. My second opinion is to got for more business oriented field. I got 98.5 %ile in mains. Female general candidate. Can you suggest me what should be my deciding criteria. Internet is getting a lot misleading to gather info about this.
@@randomguy7446 racism based on caste??? General are smarter than sc st OBC?🥴 Ye kya logic hai 🤣 mene general caste ke logo ko kuda kachra uthate hue dekha hai 😂 aur obc walo ko doctor bante hue. Kher koi baat nhi Bhai tu bahane banata reh🥴 IIT na nikalne ka😘
Thankyou for this analysis. No one talks and believes the fact you're talking. I am working on these things from 2011 but it very difficult to convince family & society and make changes and choosing right. I did many projects on these facts . Failed. Thankyou Harnoor for taking spotlight on these issues. You have right platform and viewership so that millions can understand. 🙏 Only people like you can counter the perception made by coachings, schools, blind guardians teachers media even few state governments.
I want to know Do you miss the campus life of iitb ? Also if you were given a chance to study in iiith cs which has a strict academics will you consider that ?
I think You missed one point and let me explain it now : Professors from IIT do lots of Joint research with Other Top universities across the globe, so if a student from IIT who is working under that professor gets recommended to the profs in the top universities and if the prof from IIT recommend them about the student then it is easily accepted.. That's it ther is no other rocket science in it.
Nope that's not how it works in US. It's a standardized online process all they can do is write a letter of recommendation that too cannot be written directly to the prof. It's given to the admission board
@@taste_it_everytime There's no such thing like that. I myself go to Brown and every process in standardized. It's US, not India. There's no "preference" or nepotism here. All the applications are processed by the admission team. It's actually illegal for profs to interfere in these processes. Only then Dean and the interviewer can.
Some of the people in comments saying, He's demotivating them, like they are living in their imaginary world or what?? That's what the reality is, and they themselves will realize it later in their life..
Let me explained abt it , I got chemical engineering in IIT KGP , but i reject it and i decided to choose Jadavpur University with (ECE DEPARTMENT) over IIT KGP chemistry department because of branch and research factor i reject the IIT KGP, as Jadavpur University is just after top 7 iits and it's research and development side is much better than any iits and it's avg package placement is also much better than any iits ......Though Jadavpur is very less funded in university but it's research factor and paper publisher is much much better ...nd I'm proud of it
@Tanmay Porwal This has no logic if you just want your branch then why study at all you can easily get it somewhere in a pvt college it is difficult to get a dream branch at iits but that doesn't matter you can learn anything here
@@ayushdebnath35 bro jadavpur is not less than any iits ....before the establishment of IIT KGP , jadavpur itself got 2 times offer to be IIT Kolkata but due to politics nd reservation,. It can't be possible...there is a huge difference btw private nd jadavpur university as it is in top 10 nirf ranking , just before top7 iits....and don't forget when iit KGP was established, the first staff of IIT KGP is itself from Jadavpur....IITs are just tag now...in my university..90% students rejected iits just because they know what is the value of branches nd researches
@@ayushdebnath35 Look here you are flexing your iit kgp tag again, you dont leave a chance to use your tag even when its not needed don't you ? The problem is this only that you guys think that you will get everything spoon fed and the world will bow thier jeads down by seeing your iit tag. Wake up to reality bro! Don't just speak shit like "you can learn anything here" "it doesnt matter" instead look at the placement statistics and see what is the average package of an iitian,how many of them made a unicorn startup idea which isnt a sasta copy of US startups ? And please dont say ki humare yaha se 1 2 cr ke package lagte hn and mostly unicorn sab humare hi hn. Unicorn banana and unhe successfully run krne mai difference hota hai.
I have always believed in innovation and creativity. I agree with whatever you said, before this I had watched Dr. Chaitanya Sambhara's video about coaching institutes have destroyed innovative thinking and those truths really were harsh yet true. During this preparation, students aren't given the time to develop such skills, which are utterly necessary. One more I'd like to add is the essentiality of social and emotional skills which we fail to build as well. I think it's important to improve ourselves from all aspects and not just studies. It is good to score all those ranks and grades, but only up till a certain limit, we should never make it our lives and base everything on that. But unfortunately, we are judged on the basis of that so much so that some people commit the unthinkable. I believe personality development should surely be emphasized on, more.
Osmania university has very good impression in foreign universities because it is built 100 year ago and many ceo are also produced by Osmania university (Hyderabad)
@@nvrpratham358 I am not emphasizing on how many CEOs have been "produced" by which university. It's about Innovation, Creativity and Critical Thinking abilities and skills. In fact, my whole message is trying to convey that. Just working a job doesn't mean everything in life, developing yourself personally and emotionally at an individual level is extremely crucial as well.
@@ray_hansika a person can become a ceo only if he does innovation and be creative and does critical thinking. By seeing the successful person we could get inspire which many people often forget For example Shantanu narayen adobe ceo is for our college and he is one of my inspiration.
Harnoor you need to know that IITs are not a best colleges in india now a days and branch more matters than College, IIITs are growing faster than iits and nits .
I think more matter is who are the students of IIT. All of them able to secure a seat after a thorough process and going through very tough competition. Students what matters in the end. I am from pakistan and my university is not evenly close to IIT but I went to it on merit and through very tough competition among thousands of students. This made me self sufficient. Same is the case with MIT etc. Students there are cream from the lot. This is just my views and people can agree or disagree with my views
U r right but the merit students too run after money here so there is not much difference, research students are extremely low, so even the talented students kinda dont tealise their potential and all go for software etc.
As an IIT Madras student, its not that people are not curious about things, its just that there are not a lot of opportunities in India, but thankfully that is also changing now and people need to stop criticizing IITs, the best minds of the country are actually here and doing amazing things. Also we don't get funding as compared to MIT or Stanford, so there is no point in comparing them
To live a life one needs money.very few students are leaving India in terms of learning from usa they are leaving India for earning dollar.So,making money matters whether you are in usa or in India.In my opinion best thing in USA is the rate of dollar.One cannot do research empty stomach.I request you to make one video on the earnings of researchers and software engineers. I appreciate you for making the most honest videos on TH-cam . Students who are leaving India 80 percent of them have nothing to do with the quality of education.they are going to lower grade Universities of USA. Their main moto is settle there at any cost .I wish there goal should be learning from best of the US universities not just earning dollar and keeping their parents in debt.
i did not want to take money from my parents/Heavy loan so i know that i am not privileged as others financially. But still doing fine working at a tech company in India , earning avg salary.
"not just earning dollar and keeping their parents in debt" doesn't even make sense. They want to earn dollars to uplift their and their parents standard of life. And majority of them are successful in doing so.
@@shreypatel9379 Majority not really !!! lot of people go to UK/US and study and top 30% make it into good jobs and rest 30% dont get job as they like(probably work till 2 years and try hard to get better job and then finally came back to india or settle in the US with avg job satisfaction) and others 40% come back to india start a business/job. So basically getting a job of ur choice is very difficult.
The country where 50% seats are reserved and this number is rising exponentially.... what more could you expect from young talents that are leaving India 😢
Ok let’s get this clear, IIT, AIIMS, IISc are all government funded institutions in India. If we compare them to private global Ivy League that’s an unfair comparison. Secondly, global rankings are ranked upon various factors such as published research papers, graduates per year etc… All Indian institutions are amazing but we have to understand, that comparing them to MIT or other institutions is useless it all depends on the funding the uni gets and sadly IITs lack in that
doesn't matter. These institutions are the highest ranked in our country. So theoretically they should be able to compete with the very best in the world. IIT's may be amazing by indian standards but looking at the over picture they're not even close to any top 50-70 institutes in the world.
Let me list a few: 1)University of California, Berkley 2) Oxford University 3) Cambridge University 4) ETH Zurich 5) Peking University 6) Geogia Tech 7) National University of Singapore And a lot more. All of them are Public
IIT rank does not depend on jee btech students. Most iit btechs go abroad for money and migration - less than 5000 iit students go to usa - but 125000 non iit indian students go to usa every year for money and migration. What is the achievement of narayanamurthy and other Indian billionaires other than making money? Teachers of India produce export quality educated Indians? Does any industry produce exportable produce other than labor?
Osmania university has a very good global recognition due its 100 years history and it’s fee is 2 lakhs for 4 years max . In case of iit fee is all most 20 lakhs
im proud to be a doctor, i ranked 513 in my state Eamcet exam, i my proud to serve in my village in the outskirts of hyderabad….Jai hind please save doctors…. Dont use loose words on Indian Doctors who are paid in peanuts compared to other countries…..
IIIT Delhi has all the things which you mentioned for US institutions. In IIIT Delhi students study CS + Bio Sciences, CS + Maths, CS + Social Sciences. Please throw some light on our Instituions in India, so that more ppl get to know it.
IISc Bangalore is there at 150 global rank and citation per faculty is 100 for IISc (No. 1 in the world). I am doing research at IISc for last 2 years and the research quality is very good and now I will start my PhD in a top 50 (global rank) university of USA, but I have completed my BSc and MSc in a state university, which does not even have any NAAC rank.
Reservations should be removed at least in these top universities in INDIA Both for Medicals and IITs as well as for UPSC exams, let us take an example one student who get in IIT by one of the categories with scoring very less marks and there are students who have scored much more than those students and much more eligible are forced to study in very rubbish universities or if they have opportunity they will go abroad instead of wasting seat for those incapable students universities entrance exams should promote merit not reservation
Its misconception what are u saying man? Without any realistic data you are targeting the reserve caste people..please correct your information and citation regarding this issue...many of the scholars are from reserve category from iit please search and than comment..your are not in india man please feel the pain and than suggest and comment like that..
@@aspirant009 if they are so smart, they don't need reservation to get into iits. Remove the reservation, level the playing field and we'll see who is smarter. Why are you acting like we are saying "ban sc/st from iits" like no we aren't sayingg that, they can still come if they work as hard as the rest of us.
See IITs are not getting as much fund as other top Institute gets, but still they are trying hard to increase rankings, try to generate funds by their own, and IIT delhi had qs ranking 174 and every year ranking is improving, and their are other factors that affect ranking like how many foreign dignitaries vote for the college etc. So we can't judge our institutions performance just because of some rankings. They are best and improving every day. Jai ho is not only song that deserve Oscar their are many best indian song that is best but still only jai ho get recognition in the same way just because our rankings are not good we can't judge the fact our institution are having students who cracked world's toughest exam and definitely in coming future we will see the impact of these all together in global rankings as well
Nice info Harnoor! I'm in class 10 right now & I've opted for PCM along with computer science but I'm still confused between commerce & science. I don't want to get into IIT though. I want to pursue entrepreneurship. I want to major in engineering so that I have a skill. Is this the correct approach?
Not exactly. See going with PCM CS is a great choice, but you need to decide if you are planning study in India or abroad after 12th. If you want to go abroad then just focus on SATs and Board-level studies along with extra-curriculars, then you can start applying during 12th after giving SATs, then go for a major in CS and minor in Entrepreneurship in a good uni. Now if you wanna study here in India aim for JEE.
Pcm is not only about engineering or iits brother, opportunities are limitless don't put a limit that through pcm u can only opt for either engineering, BSC ,BCA brother explore different kind of fields as well entrepreneurship skills doesn't comes from which course u choose after +2 it depends upon the person itself, even doctors in medical field are entrepreneurs
i'm a 12th grader stuck in a dilemma i want to do *ms* abroad( not bachelors) ( *uwaterloo* , *uoftornto* , *ubc* are my dream schools) so, now some people say to take drop for jee and then get into btech iit and go for masters some say, college doesn't matter, get into any tier-2,3 college and you can still go for masters abroad HELP ME OUT *only mature advices*
Take drop only if you are serious. Otherwise go to some good pvt college for computer science then do master in CS abroad. Maintain 9 above cgpa in college
No need to take a drop if u want to study abroad then not don't wait for it get your bachelors in abroad if u get University of Waterloo then go & get it but here also condition apply check eligibility criteria for bachelor & if u r ready to pay heafty amount then no need to take a drop
@@tardtryinhard sab yahi soch se brain drain hota rahega,but kabhi ek baar me India ko developed karneka nhi socha, agar India developed ho jaye to ulta India ke log India me aur bahar ke foreigners bhi aayenge yaha
i have a doubt, if i join Michigan state uni, will it be as difficult for me as a non-iitian to get into master in top university? Please answer my doubt. because I'm joining MSU for this fall.
Assuming you want to settle there by having a good job, why would you bother doing masters ? Majority of people who opt for masters from india do so because they want a way to leave india and settle there. You'll already have a really good package once you've completed your undergrad in michigan state uni so pursuing masters won't make much sense. Unless ofc if you want to go into research later on in your career.
The problem in IITs is that sometimes the placements are very Dissapointing Some people remains Unplaced even Students from Mechanical Engineering(my friend Arnav) from IIT Bombay was unplaced even after getting an CGPI of 8.4 at Btech Same for me I'm a CSE Student from IIT Bombay I got a rank of around 91 at 2019 i was happy because the CSE cut offs of that year was around 150 rank but even getting CSE i got a placement at Samsung Electronics of around 45 LPA which was very disappointing for me cuz for preparing for JEE i had already spend around 7-8 lakhs on school and coaching and had to pay 14 Lakhs for Btech at IIT even i had made so much efforts to crack JEE i was expecting atleast a package of 75 LPA whereas my friend from VJTI civil engineering got same package as me by just getting a good score at CET I was mentally disturbed currently i'm pursuing Mtech last year i cracked GATE with a score of 376 which is terrific but my CGPI and CFTI scores saved my degree Right now I am planning to pursue Phd at harvard after completion of my Mtech Even my father is encouraging me for it
It’s annoying even at IIT Bombay , you can’t judge the world finances and skill set . IITs are some institute , not something god where you will beat every other guy , you being a cse student still got 45 lpa where the avg is being 20 lpa and roi is awesome , it’s like you had over expectations . Being cse student at IIT Bombay doesn’t allow you to have edge over everyone , it’s just overated ness Not gonna drag but with this attitude you gonna end up being jealous to everyone, once a private candidate surpass your package with pure hardwork, you’ll gonna more regret It’s life , and 45 lpa is seriously great package, just work hard ( actually you did ) but if you do little more harder you’ll gonna end up with your dream package easily Don’t get aggressive towards my reply
give seats to non-deserving students without practical knowledge and expect the institution to be among top universities of the world... that make any sense?
@Moonlight Gamers It's not so much about the percentage of such students as it is about the marks and criteria they need to get it... This is extremely unfair to ordinary candidates and peers. Anyways , we can’t do anything about it in the near future….it’s all a political agenda to meet.
@Moonlight Gamers rightly pointed out brother. Also you missed that there is also prevalence of rampant regionalism and racism. Being from iit guwahati myself I have seen professor discriminating students on the basis of skin color, religious beliefs, caste and gender. Many students also form groups on the basis of region, language, caste and skin color. Imagine all of this happening at the elite Institutions of a third world country like India. Most people don't understand that your intellectual capability and personality matters rather than a piece of paper from iit. I feel sad of wasting my very productive years in being a part of a stupid race which leads to nowhere.
Class 11 and 12 syllabus of India is equals to college level syllabus of USA but still India is lacking behind in terms of technology and research...Shame😔😔😔
So here's what I think. First of all the per capita income of US and UK is much much higher than that of India, so parents neither force their kids to get mesmerized by alluring packages that people get in corporates nor they need to do it. Also I think those people don't face cut throat competition and they are free to choose what they want to... In India per capita is less and you know about inequality level right? So the thing is , so somebody who have resources,they don't bother doing research and making world a better place. And somebody who actually is research oriented will face less resources issue. So they will be bound to prepare for corporates in an early age.
How many of these IITIANS are actually from IIT Tirupati, IIT Goa, Mandi etc? Afterall its well known that BITS, IIITH are the colleges to go for after top 8-9 IITs especially if youre getting CS, ECE, etc in these. Does a CSE student from IIT Mandi, IIT Dhanbad etc have an advantage when it comes to getting accepted to top unis over a BITS CSE student just because of the IIT tag?
lmao who told you he was rich? He took a loan to study abroad and then worked part time too. His parents divorced when he was young and his mom passed away too. He was supported only by his grandmother
So what should a tier 2/3 college student of India do for getting a seat in US universities for masters... Make a proper video on this topic as well becoz many students from other colleges also are becoming successful like IITians after masters in USA
Non IITians look for jugaad. So they come to US for masters and look for job in US as most of them are not capable of getting a job in the US. I know many SOP, LOR frauds being done by non IITians just to get a admit for MS. Jugaadu chu**tiyas. IITians on the other hand easily get jobs in India and if they come to US for further studies its because of their passion. I think you could not crack JEE so you are feeling a bit insecure and jealous
You are sending a wrong message to non-IITans. There are institutions all over India in different subjects and fields that are quite reputable abroad. Students graduated from these institutions get admission for PhD in top universities.
The remarkable feat was achieved by the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), Bombay which ranked 149 in the list, a significant jump from its previous ranking of 172. Following, IIT Bombay, was IIT Delhi at 197. TOP 150
India mein rahkar agar mai CS me genius hu to bhi mai IIT se nhin padh skta chahe mujhe Wha ke CS ke topper se bhi zyada ata ho CS padhne ke lie mujhe PCM ka toughest paper dena hoga. But WHY? Didn't I have the right to get the best education as I want to? Only because of this, I do prefer any US college over IIT IITs are great because of CREAM students, But sadly I can't made it to IIT as I am weak at PCM, still it doesn't matter the same for CS :)
@@subramanianannamalai8333 yeah, But I completed mechanical engineering, Aerospace Engineering is a core of mechanical engineering, so I got bit upset.
Are you dumb? Who told you Aerospace is the worst field? It is one of the most hardest engineering field which pays you well especially in the US. people are making $100,000 as their starting salary and after few years it can raise upto $200,000 to $300,000. Boeing and other aerospace companies offers really good packages to aerospace engineers
This is a very biased argument in my opinion. I'm from RV College of Engineering and many of my alumni have gone to stanford, Cornell etc. Us universities dont look at brand but on what your Mark's are in college. Dont focus on such bogus videos and keep grinding to achieve your dream university abroad.
I'm curious, you said the average package for IIT Bombay graduate was around ₹22 lakhs per annum. Is that for India or for foreign countries? Because in USA, that would translate to around $25000 per annum, that's on the verge of going broke and homeless in any major city of the US. That's not even close to being rich, or even middle class, to be considered middle class in LA, you'll need to earn 6 figures, in US dollars.
Top MNC gives 20-30-40 lakh package in India in tech cities Any package over 70-80 lakh is given to you for working in their respective countries majorly usa , Canada , Europe.
Bro Harnoor at 15:34 is what i intend to make my hands dirty in, I'm currently studying Information science and data science as my college major in India but also taking prerequisite classes of biomedical and genetics sciences so that I can bridge the gap between biology and technology to contribute in the areas of health care and research.
But iit should remove obc/sc seats there are of no use even idiot people get seat due to caste system and genaral always suffer. Nowadays no one see caste system so they should remove
what if a student belongs to SC category and he Wana to go in IIT and wants to take Computer Science will he be able to crack iit mains and advance..........
I usually like your videos. Unfortunately, this wasn't very well researched. Would've expected a deeper, more rigorous analysis from this channel which is usually good. Would've pointed out all the errors but it would take quite long, so yeah whatever. You can always reach out though and we can discuss more about this.
Hi Harnoor. The video is well researched. I know it is a tough job to prepare these videos and get the information across to the audience. But mentioning architecture and aerospace engineering as the worst majors without substantial reasoning is misleading and creates a false impression among the viewers. We need future generations to pursue not only Computer Science but other fields too.
It's not true for Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Biology. The students who completed their Master Degree from BHU,JNU,Visva Bharati Or any University in South India can get more preference than IITian. Actually, top universities need good score in GRE and English proficiency tests and also a good GPA. I request you to varify it.
I think I saw your videos when I was preparing for JEE and later I forgot about your channel. Aren't you an MIT student? What degree were you pursuing in US? Have you completed your degree, now?
i almost regular watching your’s videos since 2020 . my daughter studying in IIT Mumbai in Chemical branch . she completed in third year i 10.5 CGP now she is in Perdue university for Internship . she wanted to doing PhD .where the top US university for Chemical . ?
11:57 reason is simple... General category students are used to working hard and succeeding, even in an unfair battle against reserved category students. So they don't take things for granted and continue with their commitment to excel wherever they go. Whereas reserved (OBC/SC/ST) category students are used to getting things without putting in much effort. Every successive Govts and political parties have only increased reservation and subsidised their education further. Why will u value something when u get them for free without any hardwork?? Hence we have low output from them
IIT jee is one of the hard exam in world bcz seats in iit limited and candidate which apply for iit is in lakhs ,and our traditional education system follow more theoretical knowledge
2nd hardest in world and upsc is 3rd highest . 1st one china exam.
@@bhaveshtamboli546 it is gaokao
Exactly 💯
@@bhaveshtamboli546 right 💯
@@bhaveshtamboli546 qualifying in Neet or UPSC is more hard
“A small percentage (less than 15% of a graduating batch) of the students go abroad for higher studies. Others stay back,” said IIT-Guwahati director Gautam Biswas 03-Dec-2021
Because only 1lakh -2 lakh visas issued for Indians 😂 if they increase visa quota more ppl will leave 😂
Grass Is Greener on the Other Side: Return Migration of Indian Engineers and Scientists in Academia
This article focuses on why academic engineers and scientists from developing countries leave developed countries to return to their countries of birth. Data for this study comes from a National Science Foundation-funded study with 83 engineers and scientists who returned to India after study and work in U.S. universities. Better career prospects in India namely ample funding available for research, less competition for grants, ability to work on theoretical topics, and freedom in research objectives emerged as the key factors that prompted return. These findings, therefore, differ with return migration of industrial engineers and scientists who moved back primarily to start companies in India and immigration challenges in the United States. With very little scholarly work on return migration of academic engineers and scientists, this study expands the understanding of high skilled migration in a globalized world.
Global DE-DOLLARIZATION. BRICS to kick out US dollar, use national currencies instead>petro-dollar will cease>interests on loans in ths US will touch 11 %... soon US will become another EUROPE with 1% GDP growth.... AN OPPORTUNIST WOULD NEVER UNDERSTAND IT THOUGH
@@DurgaPrasad-oq1uu now IITs graduate about 20000 - true not even 20% (around 4000) of them go abroad for higher studies or jobs - but around 125000 go to usa alone - that means 121000 students from other institutions go abroad for studies - what does it mean - people leave India for immigration and jobs? It is good for India - as people who could not go abroad get jobs in India.
@@DurgaPrasad-oq1uu now I can again' say myself NDA asiprant we don't leave out country for money
@@DakshPratap-ik5tp but still earn less than many of the iitians, and standard of living????🥱🥱
Ok Now lemme tell u my story
I achieved AIR 7310 In JEE Mains 2022 and AIR 6190 in JEE ADVANCED 2022.
Now anyone with 6k rank can get IIT easily but I choose IIIT Gwalior over IIT. because I can't get CS branch with 6k rank in IIT.
And lemme tell u guys it's NOT WORTH IT,
We have to study each and everything on our own here. I don't understand why Professors don't put efforts on us.
I agree our college has 28 LPA avg pckg, 2 crore highest package.
But that is only because of students' hardwork,
College don't give a shit about us 🥲🫠
So we should always choose better college over branch right?
Yes, this is IIT.. Bright students make IIT great, IIT dont make u great... They catch all the good fishes and these fishes bring good name for IIT.
@@vinayak9236 No, I am saying ki these colleges don't put efforts on u to study.
Same situation is in IITs
Always prefer your interest over anything
For your information IIIT Gwalior is the oldest IIIT and has highest placement after Hyderabad and Allahabad
@@HarshJaiswal-jo4vj okay, thanks for sharing bro
6k rank you easily got new iit it branch
Great video. However, correct your facts. There are 3 IITs (IIT Delhi, IIT Bombay, IIT Madras) along with IISc Bangalore in World top 250.
how about you watch the full video and then comment
@@mayank8434 I know he has clarified. But thumnail is utterly misleading and he must be careful before adding it
@@vasanj8227 he put a question mark in a description. That's the advertising strategy. That's the way you catch the audience.
IISc is better when it comes to Research. And no wonder they are on the top QS Ranking 155. I once visited there, and the vibe hits different. Lot of passionate people.
I think, this year they introduced A BTech Course on Computing and Mathematics. Hope, the next generation JEE Advanced takers look out for this.
bhai es bar wale iit topper ne issc banglore me admission liya h
IIT Delhi has computing and maths course.
@@HemantSharma-gr4ko lekin woh iisc ki baat hi alag hai
I agree with you for researchers IISc will be a good platform
One of my neighbour who got rank in 200s got a 8 lakh package as he didn't focus on technical stuff after getting into , whereas one of my friends brother who passed out from a tier 3 college got into PhD in Colombia University. Studying in top universities won't make anyone a great researcher or job professional she/ he has to work on it . Satya , Indira and santanu Narayanan or venkataraman ramakrishna wasn't from any iit . Many iitians who claim to the founders are mostly copy paste products of USA , even they struggle to make profit inspite of huge funding. Many iitians were interested in coming out of the country before 90s as the jobs were quite low but nowaday iitians are staying in india. The obsession of USA or studying abroad very high in india especially i am from Hyderabad i just see a lot telugu people obsessed with USA
Initially in USA the Ranking of universities may matter in USA later it won't .
True, two of my acquaintance went to a tier 3 college in a very small town (the college was even smaller than my school and no body knows the name of that college either) but they worked really hard and one of them is in samsung (after 5 years of grinding after graduating) and her salary is more than 2 lakh a month and the other one is in Mercedes in GERMANY both of them are doing really well. People used to laugh at them since they went to such a small college. And I know people from IITs who work under them.
What's funny is that he mentioned snapdeal as a success story of an IITian🤣. Snapdeal is one of the worst online shopping sites on the planet. The entire system of snapdeal is shady and untrustworthy. I literally don't see anyone around me using snapdeal.
He is thinking like that iiT is the one which gives you money & happiness
It's bull shit give respect to all courses other courses are far better than iiT to live happily 😀😀😀
Only in India, this mentality of going to top ranked university is the only correct course of action exists. In USA, there are literally thousands of students who get admission to top universities like Columbia, Cornell, MIT etc. but because of their personal reasons, finance etc. choose other lower ranked universities.
Ghuma fira kyu raha hai.. tera point thik se bol na
The right information you have provided. In India, children are taught to chase job packages and entrance exams. We prepare for exams only to clear not to gain insight into knowledge. That's why students abroad aren't bothered to give entrance exams but they are keen on research and development in the world. India should need to learn from this, especially from the education minister and professors.
This is the reason india is 100x far behind in R&D and etc
India will always remain in that way. So leave
this country as early as possible.
Dude, I have friends who haven't gone to IITs, wrote one conference paper and is still persuing PhD from an ivy league college in USA. It doesn't matter how many papers you write, it's the content that matters. Don't race after increasing the number of papers in your inventory.
That’s the data from my research and your data and experience could be different which is completely healthy
@@SinghinUSA II think it's not that hard to get admission to one of the ivy league schools if you fulfill their criteria, and the most crucial aspect is to pay for their tuition fees for the Master's program. It's not always about paper. If your area of research matches the professor's research area, then the chances are higher that anyone can get into these schools.
@@SinghinUSA bro you said if I'm not from iit then I can't go aboard for Master's and phd in top class institution there is my chances to get in world's top collage or university is almost 0 percentage but many of bits students go aboard after ug and specifically in top collage
@@SinghinUSA 👌👌👌👌👌Well said.... Singh in USA...
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Doesn't make any sense.... All the best.... 😭😭😭😭😭
Journal papers are NOT always more valuable than conference papers.
In CS, and especially in AI/ML, top conferences such as ICML, NeurIPS etc., are very selective and much more valuable than any journal publication.
Lol, even in conferences iits aren't that good even iisc isnt good.
Go and look at COLT, ALT. I don't think iit Or iisc publish there much.
@NAMAN GUPTA My comment was made NOT to establish/claim that IITs publish in reputed conferences. I simply wanted to convey that it’s NOT NECESSARILY the case that journals are more prestigious than conferences, regardless of the college/org. that’s trying to publish.
@@palindrame ok bro
make such videos for MEDICAL students in india too !! cover topics like student to selection ratio of entrance tests ( NEET ) lemme give an example if there are approx 18 lakh students giving NEET (like this year) the selection in any medical college ( gov college and private colleges) is only a lakh or so seats to get admission in a medical college ( only talking about MBBS ) and further more examples after mbbs so see the ratio how poor is it !! and moreover like you said in the video ( just my oppinion too) this 1 lakh or so seats have to adjust reservation too so more competion to general category students so nerve breaking is this !!
@Moonlight Gamers bohot kuch jaise?
@moonlightgamers1436 yea very true my friend my sister is in same situation because is in 4 th year now !!
@moonlightgamers1436 oh I will be in 1 St year in 2024 shit man !!
bhai vo sc st hai st log tribal community vo haramri community se nahi aate aur sc lower community mani jathi hai by hindu religion
isliye unhe reservation diya hai
Yes..and flexibility of choosing subject is very very less even if it is within a particular department too. And yes as per my past experience of knowledge and rapid change of life and economy the interdisciplinary subject is needed into course bucket list both to grow the skills of hard and soft as competition is very very high and due to internet and after corona many information is easily available from home too.
EYE OPENING VIDEO
Awesome video. Finally someone focussed on things like PhD. Most videos on IITs just revolve around packages and lack of social skills.
There is a big reason behind why students want high package is that.........still a large population of India is suffering from poverty.......and to have a better life for them and for their family.......iits are the best option........where you get both respect and a high chance of getting a good package
Yeh harnoor Singh kch jaida bda chada rha iits ko mota moti yeh baat jaan lo ussr unseco apne faide k liye iits ko bnanaya hai ki detail k liye Rajeev Dixit ka channel dekhlooo
I want to say just one thing. There is one major difference between IISc and IITs. IIsc takes admission for only Masters and PhD wherever in IITs people go mostly for undergrads. So it is obvious that IIsc will have more journals and package also would be high.
Bachelors also happen in IISC
IIT Bombay alone has intake of 939 in 39 streams of mtech which is double than iisc.
IISc Bengaluru is the best institute in India and has highest reputation in foreign.. It is fully devoted to science and research, whereas IITs are more for engineering and technology, most of the scientists persue MSC/PhD from IISc..
I honestly don't know why did you State aerospace engineering as worst major. Shame on you, don't just consider computer science engineering as always the best, respect other fields of engineering too
unemployment , job nahi milta
@@vishalsingh-gs4id haha bruh it's just in India. There are many i mean many companies for aerospace industry, I'm an aerospace major student final year, and I'm doing my internship at Boeing, Germany. And just so you didn't know if you are in a good uni in a good country, nothing's stopping you.
Totally Agreed
@@vishalsingh-gs4id tujhe mahi mila to usme Field ki kya galti, Skill up Companies want upto Today's Skilled people
@@Ashallmusica abbey BC mai abhi 1 year enginneirng mai hi hu
Not just IIT but poor people from villages in Punjab to rich people like ambani ( he got his grandson born in America) want to leave India …. Life just sucks so much in India that going abroad is not even a difficult decision 😂
yes india has many problems, but I'd never like to live as a minority abroad.
@raju kumar the problem in india is heavy corruption and 75% of our population is uncivilized.
@@vinayak9236 how many people do you know personally in India … 100 or let’s say 200 ? … rest are all strangers anyways … you can easily find those 200 Desis anywhere you go in the world and also a bunch of strangers …. You won’t miss Indian culture and food in most western and middle eastern countries
@raju kumar politicians have made India bad place to live in … best of luck to you
SATYA VACHAN BOLE
I understand the Research mindset thing......but the reality is that most the Indian students are from lower middle class or middle class families.....so their primary objective in life is to secure their future first...... personally I will choose a better paying job instead of a good Research college
And that is the problem, why India is still lagging behind
Yes bro I agree with you
We want to secure our future first
I am From Nepal & my Maternal home is in Varanasi India My father is Alumni of NIT Rourkela , I started my JEE preparation in Class 11th and then I cracked JEE Advanced, JEE Mains , RMO . JEE Mains 2021 98.7%ile , JEE Advanced 13981 in 2021 in my first attempt, I was Getting IIT BOMBAY CSE through Foreign Category (10% supernumaray quota) but the fees was around 8000$ per year , so I couldn't afford it , but Then I got Full scholarship in NIT Rourkela CSE through Indian Embassy so I joined NIT Rourkela CSE . Still I feel very sad not joining IIT Bombay CSE because of the High fees and we as a foreign Student can't get education loan in India to study whether you get admitted to IIT Bombay
It's ok. Whatever happens in life is better and fair. Please never regret for it and remember it, over and over again!
Sorry to know that. Missed opportunity but it doesn’t matter in the long run. you are in a good colleges /NIT. For jobs only your subject knowledge & talent counts more than college.
hey dude is it possible i thought you needed under 50 fro iit bombay cse
@@anujpatil7611 I am Foreign Student 😅 , Foreign students have 10% supernumerary seats reserved.
@@riteshnitrkl i am also foreign student need info asap, how can I contact you , I am going to give jee 2024, plz help your juniors
I was working as a RF engineer(Drive test & optimization) in Dehradun for Ericsson BSNL network and one guy from BSNL asked me to help his relative who was doing PHD in IIT Rorkee on his thesis which was on studying effect of rain on mobile signals, After meeting him and talking to him I felt like he is just doing it for the sake of doctorate degree as it was a useless study not needed which he was emphasising no one has ever done, he was also trying to sell me a MTECH degree from some local University.
After that my opinion on IIT changed and I didn't regard it that highly. I was also saddened by the state of research from the highest institution in the country.
This video provides one of the most balanced and unbiased take on the reality of tier 1 education system of india.
Well done Harnoor.
Going through these realisations mysef in past 9 years (2 years if JEE prep, 4 years of NIT, 3 years of global work experience), I can confirm this is a great video.
I wished to have such a video back when i started on this path in 2013 but none existed.
It’s important to differentiate between a marketing material, opinions and an information material.
Videos we see from official channels of colleges, programs etc are marketing material.
Review and reaction videos are opinions.
Information videos are rare and tough to make and need extensive research and interviews. Something which you clearly did either for this video or just overtime with your experience.
Well done!
Thank you so much Yogesh! I tried talking to all my friends their and tried my best. Your comment motivates me a lot :)
Fact : We're giving seats to the students who just gathered information to crack JEE but not to those students who has critical thinking, creativity and knowledge.
So true
I know right, but we should definitely focus more on innovation.
Yes agree
No bro jee have many creative thinking questions
@@sanjiv5974 what creative thinking, cutting a charged sphere from inside and finding electric field of cavity is not a creative question, it's a stupid hypothesis on which they frame a goofy and senseless problem to solve😂😂
This video is totally wrong and misleading, 90% iitians don't want to leave India. , IIT Delhi and Bombay are 174 and 172 world rank respectively which makes your heading wrong ❌.
Please dont make such contect just for viewership
Hey are you at iit-d.
If possible can you suggest a branch v/s college opinion.
I am interested in cs and maths. But practically speaking won't work out for me. My second opinion is to got for more business oriented field.
I got 98.5 %ile in mains. Female general candidate.
Can you suggest me what should be my deciding criteria.
Internet is getting a lot misleading to gather info about this.
You said very right thing that: sc, St Student doesn't do much after iit with compare to an general one
Ye bas muh se bole ja rahe ki koi data hai aapke pass😂
@@_ayush0110 hai na yr
Isliye hi to bol raha hu
@@_ayush0110 fact h reserved reserved hote h wo kabhi general category ke brain nhi paa payenge chahe jitna reservation lelo gawaro
@@_ayush0110 Aajtak koi sc st obc top 10 air mai kyu nhi aya
@@randomguy7446 racism based on caste??? General are smarter than sc st OBC?🥴 Ye kya logic hai 🤣 mene general caste ke logo ko kuda kachra uthate hue dekha hai 😂 aur obc walo ko doctor bante hue. Kher koi baat nhi Bhai tu bahane banata reh🥴 IIT na nikalne ka😘
Thankyou for this analysis. No one talks and believes the fact you're talking. I am working on these things from 2011 but it very difficult to convince family & society and make changes and choosing right. I did many projects on these facts . Failed. Thankyou Harnoor for taking spotlight on these issues. You have right platform and viewership so that millions can understand. 🙏
Only people like you can counter the perception made by coachings, schools, blind guardians teachers media even few state governments.
Yes true. Amazing topic Harnoor 👍👍
Thank You for making more knowledge content video
Even I left IIT (metallurgy in IIT Bombay) for NIT Rourkela (CSE).
Not a big deal now to reject lower branches of IITs
I want to know Do you miss the campus life of iitb ? Also if you were given a chance to study in iiith cs which has a strict academics will you consider that ?
I think You missed one point and let me explain it now : Professors from IIT do lots of Joint research with Other Top universities across the globe, so if a student from IIT who is working under that professor gets recommended to the profs in the top universities and if the prof from IIT recommend them about the student then it is easily accepted.. That's it ther is no other rocket science in it.
Nope that's not how it works in US. It's a standardized online process all they can do is write a letter of recommendation that too cannot be written directly to the prof. It's given to the admission board
@@atharva1017 That's for non recommended students. You will have to wait when you are not recommended by the top professor from IITs.
@@taste_it_everytime There's no such thing like that. I myself go to Brown and every process in standardized. It's US, not India. There's no "preference" or nepotism here. All the applications are processed by the admission team. It's actually illegal for profs to interfere in these processes. Only then Dean and the interviewer can.
@@atharva1017 LOZ ... Then you have no idea about it.
Atharva is right dude my brother also is in Denver
I was in the same path of iit race and after giving interview i understood my mistake.....
Thank you so much
Which interview and mistake are you talking about?
Iit's interview only
@@sardarji162 I think she's talking about GATE interview...
@@vinayak9236 think not she is exactly talking about that
@@piyalidutta6462 I am also preparing please explain in detail
IISERs are actually doing better than IITs in terms of research and will overtake QS ranking soon in future
TRUE
Some of the people in comments saying, He's demotivating them, like they are living in their imaginary world or what?? That's what the reality is, and they themselves will realize it later in their life..
How getting demotivated tho?
Let me explained abt it ,
I got chemical engineering in IIT KGP , but i reject it and i decided to choose Jadavpur University with (ECE DEPARTMENT) over IIT KGP chemistry department because of branch and research factor i reject the IIT KGP, as Jadavpur University is just after top 7 iits and it's research and development side is much better than any iits and it's avg package placement is also much better than any iits ......Though Jadavpur is very less funded in university but it's research factor and paper publisher is much much better ...nd I'm proud of it
So you are a hero because you rejected iit
@Tanmay Porwal This has no logic if you just want your branch then why study at all you can easily get it somewhere in a pvt college it is difficult to get a dream branch at iits but that doesn't matter you can learn anything here
@@tanmayporwal7304 I am from iit kgp, don't talk about shit you don't know
@@ayushdebnath35 bro jadavpur is not less than any iits ....before the establishment of IIT KGP , jadavpur itself got 2 times offer to be IIT Kolkata but due to politics nd reservation,. It can't be possible...there is a huge difference btw private nd jadavpur university as it is in top 10 nirf ranking , just before top7 iits....and don't forget when iit KGP was established, the first staff of IIT KGP is itself from Jadavpur....IITs are just tag now...in my university..90% students rejected iits just because they know what is the value of branches nd researches
@@ayushdebnath35 Look here you are flexing your iit kgp tag again, you dont leave a chance to use your tag even when its not needed don't you ? The problem is this only that you guys think that you will get everything spoon fed and the world will bow thier jeads down by seeing your iit tag. Wake up to reality bro! Don't just speak shit like "you can learn anything here" "it doesnt matter" instead look at the placement statistics and see what is the average package of an iitian,how many of them made a unicorn startup idea which isnt a sasta copy of US startups ? And please dont say ki humare yaha se 1 2 cr ke package lagte hn and mostly unicorn sab humare hi hn. Unicorn banana and unhe successfully run krne mai difference hota hai.
I have always believed in innovation and creativity. I agree with whatever you said, before this I had watched Dr. Chaitanya Sambhara's video about coaching institutes have destroyed innovative thinking and those truths really were harsh yet true.
During this preparation, students aren't given the time to develop such skills, which are utterly necessary. One more I'd like to add is the essentiality of social and emotional skills which we fail to build as well.
I think it's important to improve ourselves from all aspects and not just studies. It is good to score all those ranks and grades, but only up till a certain limit, we should never make it our lives and base everything on that. But unfortunately, we are judged on the basis of that so much so that some people commit the unthinkable.
I believe personality development should surely be emphasized on, more.
Osmania university has very good impression in foreign universities because it is built 100 year ago and many ceo are also produced by Osmania university (Hyderabad)
@@nvrpratham358 I am not emphasizing on how many CEOs have been "produced" by which university. It's about Innovation, Creativity and Critical Thinking abilities and skills. In fact, my whole message is trying to convey that. Just working a job doesn't mean everything in life, developing yourself personally and emotionally at an individual level is extremely crucial as well.
@@ray_hansika a person can become a ceo only if he does innovation and be creative and does critical thinking. By seeing the successful person we could get inspire which many people often forget
For example Shantanu narayen adobe ceo is for our college and he is one of my inspiration.
@@ray_hansika you are from which college
When. You cant clear JEE AdV then You criticise the exam
Harnoor you need to know that IITs are not a best colleges in india now a days and branch more matters than College, IIITs are growing faster than iits and nits .
I think more matter is who are the students of IIT. All of them able to secure a seat after a thorough process and going through very tough competition. Students what matters in the end. I am from pakistan and my university is not evenly close to IIT but I went to it on merit and through very tough competition among thousands of students. This made me self sufficient. Same is the case with MIT etc. Students there are cream from the lot. This is just my views and people can agree or disagree with my views
U r right but the merit students too run after money here so there is not much difference, research students are extremely low, so even the talented students kinda dont tealise their potential and all go for software etc.
As an IIT Madras student, its not that people are not curious about things, its just that there are not a lot of opportunities in India, but thankfully that is also changing now and people need to stop criticizing IITs, the best minds of the country are actually here and doing amazing things.
Also we don't get funding as compared to MIT or Stanford, so there is no point in comparing them
Correct bro.
where are the output then i live in westbengal iit kahragpur is near me i have only heard people going outside never heard of creating something big
@@electrowizard2658 Bro you clearly need to get your grammar and general knowledge right.
To live a life one needs money.very few students are leaving India in terms of learning from usa they are leaving India for earning dollar.So,making money matters whether you are in usa or in India.In my opinion best thing in USA is the rate of dollar.One cannot do research empty stomach.I request you to make one video on the earnings of researchers and software engineers.
I appreciate you for making the most honest videos on TH-cam . Students who are leaving India 80 percent of them have nothing to do with the quality of education.they are going to lower grade Universities of USA. Their main moto is settle there at any cost .I wish there goal should be learning from best of the US universities not just earning dollar and keeping their parents in debt.
Does University of houston also count in Low grade University?
i did not want to take money from my parents/Heavy loan so i know that i am not privileged as others financially. But still doing fine working at a tech company in India , earning avg salary.
"not just earning dollar and keeping their parents in debt" doesn't even make sense. They want to earn dollars to uplift their and their parents standard of life. And majority of them are successful in doing so.
@@shreypatel9379 Majority not really !!! lot of people go to UK/US and study and top 30% make it into good jobs and rest 30% dont get job as they like(probably work till 2 years and try hard to get better job and then finally came back to india or settle in the US with avg job satisfaction) and others 40% come back to india start a business/job. So basically getting a job of ur choice is very difficult.
@@shreypatel9379 main reason is earning dollar not academics . you are right .
VIT University already implemented this major and minor courses before all IITs
The country where 50% seats are reserved and this number is rising exponentially.... what more could you expect from young talents that are leaving India 😢
Kuch nahi hhoga bhai mein partial dropper hu 98 percentile aur jee adv mein 17k rank ke baad bhi IIIT mein hu abhi 😢 iit ke liye firse padh raha hu
Ok let’s get this clear, IIT, AIIMS, IISc are all government funded institutions in India. If we compare them to private global Ivy League that’s an unfair comparison.
Secondly, global rankings are ranked upon various factors such as published research papers, graduates per year etc… All Indian institutions are amazing but we have to understand, that comparing them to MIT or other institutions is useless it all depends on the funding the uni gets and sadly IITs lack in that
True
Yes, it should also be made somewhat private
Just compare it to University of California, Berkeley. That's a public university, that is ranked 25 ig.
doesn't matter. These institutions are the highest ranked in our country. So theoretically they should be able to compete with the very best in the world. IIT's may be amazing by indian standards but looking at the over picture they're not even close to any top 50-70 institutes in the world.
Let me list a few:
1)University of California, Berkley
2) Oxford University
3) Cambridge University
4) ETH Zurich
5) Peking University
6) Geogia Tech
7) National University of Singapore
And a lot more. All of them are Public
IIT rank does not depend on jee btech students. Most iit btechs go abroad for money and migration - less than 5000 iit students go to usa - but 125000 non iit indian students go to usa every year for money and migration. What is the achievement of narayanamurthy and other Indian billionaires other than making money?
Teachers of India produce export quality educated Indians? Does any industry produce exportable produce other than labor?
Osmania university has a very good global recognition due its 100 years history and it’s fee is 2 lakhs for 4 years max . In case of iit fee is all most 20 lakhs
What a great analysis, I just became you fan due to your analytical ability. Outstanding, great.
im proud to be a doctor, i ranked 513 in my state Eamcet exam, i my proud to serve in my village in the outskirts of hyderabad….Jai hind
please save doctors….
Dont use loose words on Indian Doctors who are paid in peanuts compared to other countries…..
IIIT Delhi has all the things which you mentioned for US institutions. In IIIT Delhi students study CS + Bio Sciences, CS + Maths, CS + Social Sciences. Please throw some light on our Instituions in India, so that more ppl get to know it.
how to come there bro I'm in class 12
@@Spirit365 after clearing entrance exam
@@jigsaw2281 yea i mean like
in detail !?
Really?? I want to do that,please shed more light on this topic
@@Spirit365 jee mains me under 10k rank for cs
Can you explain about interdisciplinary fields more in a video
IISc Bangalore is there at 150 global rank and citation per faculty is 100 for IISc (No. 1 in the world). I am doing research at IISc for last 2 years and the research quality is very good and now I will start my PhD in a top 50 (global rank) university of USA, but I have completed my BSc and MSc in a state university, which does not even have any NAAC rank.
Reservations should be removed at least in these top universities in INDIA Both for Medicals and IITs as well as for UPSC exams, let us take an example one student who get in IIT by one of the categories with scoring very less marks and there are students who have scored much more than those students and much more eligible are forced to study in very rubbish universities or if they have opportunity they will go abroad instead of wasting seat for those incapable students universities entrance exams should promote merit not reservation
This is the story of me.
Its misconception what are u saying man? Without any realistic data you are targeting the reserve caste people..please correct your information and citation regarding this issue...many of the scholars are from reserve category from iit please search and than comment..your are not in india man please feel the pain and than suggest and comment like that..
@@aspirant009 if they are so smart, they don't need reservation to get into iits. Remove the reservation, level the playing field and we'll see who is smarter. Why are you acting like we are saying "ban sc/st from iits" like no we aren't sayingg that, they can still come if they work as hard as the rest of us.
Mr. Singh, you are superb, need assistance on one aspect from u that is it good to do Maths major UG in us and its employability?
See IITs are not getting as much fund as other top Institute gets, but still they are trying hard to increase rankings, try to generate funds by their own, and IIT delhi had qs ranking 174 and every year ranking is improving, and their are other factors that affect ranking like how many foreign dignitaries vote for the college etc. So we can't judge our institutions performance just because of some rankings.
They are best and improving every day.
Jai ho is not only song that deserve Oscar their are many best indian song that is best but still only jai ho get recognition in the same way just because our rankings are not good we can't judge the fact our institution are having students who cracked world's toughest exam and definitely in coming future we will see the impact of these all together in global rankings as well
Good
IIT Delhi is a tatti university with tatti infrastructure, there are better private universities In India
Bhai 29th Jan ko mera paper hay JEE(mains) ka....bohot fatt rahi h bro can't Handel the situation...🤕
Nice info Harnoor! I'm in class 10 right now & I've opted for PCM along with computer science but I'm still confused between commerce & science. I don't want to get into IIT though. I want to pursue entrepreneurship. I want to major in engineering so that I have a skill.
Is this the correct approach?
Not exactly. See going with PCM CS is a great choice, but you need to decide if you are planning study in India or abroad after 12th. If you want to go abroad then just focus on SATs and Board-level studies along with extra-curriculars, then you can start applying during 12th after giving SATs, then go for a major in CS and minor in Entrepreneurship in a good uni.
Now if you wanna study here in India aim for JEE.
If you get into IIT, you will certainly have a great Entrepreneurship experience.
@@shrawon3605 true
Pcm is not only about engineering or iits brother, opportunities are limitless don't put a limit that through pcm u can only opt for either engineering, BSC ,BCA brother explore different kind of fields as well entrepreneurship skills doesn't comes from which course u choose after +2 it depends upon the person itself, even doctors in medical field are entrepreneurs
Bhai ek no video banya he ye. Very informative and motivative like u have woke up our scientist mindsets.
There should be OCI /PIO/ NRI/ International students quota in IIT...
Bro U are talking only about IIT, NIT...
But what about other private colleges which 95% of India consists of...😅
i'm a 12th grader stuck in a dilemma
i want to do *ms* abroad( not bachelors) ( *uwaterloo* , *uoftornto* , *ubc* are my dream schools)
so, now some people say to take drop for jee and then get into btech iit and go for masters
some say, college doesn't matter, get into any tier-2,3 college and you can still go for masters abroad
HELP ME OUT *only mature advices*
Take drop only if you are serious. Otherwise go to some good pvt college for computer science then do master in CS abroad. Maintain 9 above cgpa in college
take drop, at worst you'll land in tier 3 too next year.
but you'll be happy that atleast you gave a shot to it
@@MrGoodYear I agree with you
No need to take a drop if u want to study abroad then not don't wait for it get your bachelors in abroad if u get University of Waterloo then go & get it but here also condition apply check eligibility criteria for bachelor & if u r ready to pay heafty amount then no need to take a drop
bro even im in the same situation, but im planning not to take drop
Bro India ko aage leke Jane ke liye aap jaise logo ki bahoot jarurt hai 🙏
you need to touch the grass brother
in reality, we want our individual family life to be settled well. these are childish things
@@tardtryinhard well said brother I agreed 👍
@@tardtryinhard sab yahi soch se brain drain hota rahega,but kabhi ek baar me India ko developed karneka nhi socha, agar India developed ho jaye to ulta India ke log India me aur bahar ke foreigners bhi aayenge yaha
@@tardtryinhard Exactly, You spoke my words.
@@Hindu428 NO thanks, I don't want to contribute to a corrupt society.
i have a doubt, if i join Michigan state uni, will it be as difficult for me as a non-iitian to get into master in top university? Please answer my doubt. because I'm joining MSU for this fall.
Have generational wealth, you'll get admission anywhere
Do not join MSU, its remote location will make you starve for jobs after graduation also its very cold there. East lansing.
@@maturimanvitha7226 All the best for the future dude
Assuming you want to settle there by having a good job, why would you bother doing masters ? Majority of people who opt for masters from india do so because they want a way to leave india and settle there. You'll already have a really good package once you've completed your undergrad in michigan state uni so pursuing masters won't make much sense. Unless ofc if you want to go into research later on in your career.
@@shreypatel9379 thank you for the information
The problem in IITs is that sometimes the placements are very Dissapointing Some people remains Unplaced even Students from Mechanical Engineering(my friend Arnav) from IIT Bombay was unplaced even after getting an CGPI of 8.4 at Btech Same for me I'm a CSE Student from IIT Bombay I got a rank of around 91 at 2019 i was happy because the CSE cut offs of that year was around 150 rank but even getting CSE i got a placement at Samsung Electronics of around 45 LPA which was very disappointing for me cuz for preparing for JEE i had already spend around 7-8 lakhs on school and coaching and had to pay 14 Lakhs for Btech at IIT even i had made so much efforts to crack JEE i was expecting atleast a package of 75 LPA whereas my friend from VJTI civil engineering got same package as me by just getting a good score at CET I was mentally disturbed currently i'm pursuing Mtech last year i cracked GATE with a score of 376 which is terrific but my CGPI and CFTI scores saved my degree Right now I am planning to pursue Phd at harvard after completion of my Mtech Even my father is encouraging me for it
It’s annoying even at IIT Bombay , you can’t judge the world finances and skill set . IITs are some institute , not something god where you will beat every other guy , you being a cse student still got 45 lpa where the avg is being 20 lpa and roi is awesome , it’s like you had over expectations . Being cse student at IIT Bombay doesn’t allow you to have edge over everyone , it’s just overated ness
Not gonna drag but with this attitude you gonna end up being jealous to everyone, once a private candidate surpass your package with pure hardwork, you’ll gonna more regret
It’s life , and 45 lpa is seriously great package, just work hard ( actually you did ) but if you do little more harder you’ll gonna end up with your dream package easily
Don’t get aggressive towards my reply
give seats to non-deserving students without practical knowledge and expect the institution to be among top universities of the world... that make any sense?
Yeah we all know why IITs are not in the top 100 Universities, reason being this and I don't think it to be changing in the near future
@Moonlight Gamers
It's not so much about the percentage of such students as it is about the marks and criteria they need to get it... This is extremely unfair to ordinary candidates and peers.
Anyways , we can’t do anything about it in the near future….it’s all a political agenda to meet.
@Moonlight Gamers rightly pointed out brother. Also you missed that there is also prevalence of rampant regionalism and racism. Being from iit guwahati myself I have seen professor discriminating students on the basis of skin color, religious beliefs, caste and gender. Many students also form groups on the basis of region, language, caste and skin color. Imagine all of this happening at the elite Institutions of a third world country like India. Most people don't understand that your intellectual capability and personality matters rather than a piece of paper from iit. I feel sad of wasting my very productive years in being a part of a stupid race which leads to nowhere.
@Moonlight Gamers mostly bramhins are very faired in skin
@Moonlight Gamers foolish from which state are you and whoem you had seen are mixed bramhins not pure who had Aryan ancestry
Yes ,curiosity in IITIANs are very much down.
0:04 IIT is not a life changing but a life threatening degree
i want pursue chemical engineering at IIT because i want to create a semiconductor startup
and for that i have to do research and all things
Class 11 and 12 syllabus of India is equals to college level syllabus of USA but still India is lacking behind in terms of technology and research...Shame😔😔😔
Agree!!
So here's what I think.
First of all the per capita income of US and UK is much much higher than that of India, so parents neither force their kids to get mesmerized by alluring packages that people get in corporates nor they need to do it. Also I think those people don't face cut throat competition and they are free to choose what they want to...
In India per capita is less and you know about inequality level right? So the thing is , so somebody who have resources,they don't bother doing research and making world a better place. And somebody who actually is research oriented will face less resources issue. So they will be bound to prepare for corporates in an early age.
How many of these IITIANS are actually from IIT Tirupati, IIT Goa, Mandi etc? Afterall its well known that BITS, IIITH are the colleges to go for after top 8-9 IITs especially if youre getting CS, ECE, etc in these. Does a CSE student from IIT Mandi, IIT Dhanbad etc have an advantage when it comes to getting accepted to top unis over a BITS CSE student just because of the IIT tag?
You are giving too much importance to college. Stop begging and have confidence in your own capabilities.
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Aerospace engineer is one of the most difficult and one of the best major, and you are saying it is worst. 😅
Not everyone's as rich as you harnoor. Very few people have money to pay initial fees to study abroad
lmao who told you he was rich? He took a loan to study abroad and then worked part time too. His parents divorced when he was young and his mom passed away too. He was supported only by his grandmother
Then whose problem is that ?
If one is poor it’s his problem he should better ask his father why their family can’t afford
Apt.! THE TRUTH.! hats off to your work 👍🏽👍🏽
So what should a tier 2/3 college student of India do for getting a seat in US universities for masters... Make a proper video on this topic as well becoz many students from other colleges also are becoming successful like IITians after masters in USA
Non IITians look for jugaad. So they come to US for masters and look for job in US as most of them are not capable of getting a job in the US. I know many SOP, LOR frauds being done by non IITians just to get a admit for MS. Jugaadu chu**tiyas. IITians on the other hand easily get jobs in India and if they come to US for further studies its because of their passion. I think you could not crack JEE so you are feeling a bit insecure and jealous
Tier 2/3 prefer Germany . Tution fees is also zero and quality of education is premium.
You are sending a wrong message to non-IITans. There are institutions all over India in different subjects and fields that are quite reputable abroad. Students graduated from these institutions get admission for PhD in top universities.
Singh helpful video
The remarkable feat was achieved by the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), Bombay which ranked 149 in the list, a significant jump from its previous ranking of 172. Following, IIT Bombay, was IIT Delhi at 197.
TOP 150
India mein rahkar agar mai CS me genius hu to bhi mai IIT se nhin padh skta chahe mujhe Wha ke CS ke topper se bhi zyada ata ho
CS padhne ke lie mujhe PCM ka toughest paper dena hoga. But WHY?
Didn't I have the right to get the best education as I want to?
Only because of this, I do prefer any US college over IIT
IITs are great because of CREAM students,
But sadly I can't made it to IIT as I am weak at PCM, still it doesn't matter the same for CS :)
I have same thoughts but this is what it is 😔
Iit are basically engineering focused University...and if you check engineering ranks than iit delhi and Bombay both lie near to top 50 of world
Nope bro iits are in top 10 universities of the world.
@@raghavrathore3698 They are not even in top 150. IIT bombay is 172 and IITD is 176
0:14, worst major, Aerospace Engineering, you should have used a term, like not so popular major. 😐
Yes I’m sorry you’re right! Worst considered major from Package point of view
@@SinghinUSA at least you spoke what you had in mind instead of polishing it.
@@SinghinUSA it's ok dude
@@subramanianannamalai8333 yeah, But I completed mechanical engineering, Aerospace Engineering is a core of mechanical engineering, so I got bit upset.
Are you dumb? Who told you Aerospace is the worst field? It is one of the most hardest engineering field which pays you well especially in the US. people are making $100,000 as their starting salary and after few years it can raise upto $200,000 to $300,000. Boeing and other aerospace companies offers really good packages to aerospace engineers
This is a very biased argument in my opinion. I'm from RV College of Engineering and many of my alumni have gone to stanford, Cornell etc. Us universities dont look at brand but on what your Mark's are in college. Dont focus on such bogus videos and keep grinding to achieve your dream university abroad.
I'm curious, you said the average package for IIT Bombay graduate was around ₹22 lakhs per annum. Is that for India or for foreign countries? Because in USA, that would translate to around $25000 per annum, that's on the verge of going broke and homeless in any major city of the US. That's not even close to being rich, or even middle class, to be considered middle class in LA, you'll need to earn 6 figures, in US dollars.
Top MNC gives 20-30-40 lakh package in India in tech cities
Any package over 70-80 lakh is given to you for working in their respective countries majorly usa , Canada , Europe.
Bro Harnoor at 15:34 is what i intend to make my hands dirty in, I'm currently studying Information science and data science as my college major in India but also taking prerequisite classes of biomedical and genetics sciences so that I can bridge the gap between biology and technology to contribute in the areas of health care and research.
In which college of India?
@@sciencetechnology2916 SDMCET
Listen everyone 352/360 is jee mains . Obviously mains won't allow IIT ..IT was jee advance to crack to enter....in jee advance 352/360... impossible
Thanks for the information 🤠
IIT Bombay ~ QS WOULD RANK 172 AND IIT DELHI ~QS WOULD RANK 174 IN 2023.
But iit should remove obc/sc seats there are of no use even idiot people get seat due to caste system and genaral always suffer. Nowadays no one see caste system so they should remove
what if a student belongs to SC category and he Wana to go in IIT and wants to take Computer Science will he be able to crack iit mains and advance..........
I usually like your videos. Unfortunately, this wasn't very well researched. Would've expected a deeper, more rigorous analysis from this channel which is usually good. Would've pointed out all the errors but it would take quite long, so yeah whatever. You can always reach out though and we can discuss more about this.
Excellent information
Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
Our government asks us to ignore any index or ranking.
But evertime ranking might not have any other agenda, they are even correct.
On what basis you have selected your stream (commerce/science) 🙂
Hi Harnoor. The video is well researched. I know it is a tough job to prepare these videos and get the information across to the audience. But mentioning architecture and aerospace engineering as the worst majors without substantial reasoning is misleading and creates a false impression among the viewers. We need future generations to pursue not only Computer Science but other fields too.
In India engineering means computer science only..
Baki branches bas naam ke liye hai...
I was just going to school but i gotta watch harnoor's video
It's not true for Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Biology. The students who completed their Master Degree from BHU,JNU,Visva Bharati Or any University in South India can get more preference than IITian. Actually, top universities need good score in GRE and English proficiency tests and also a good GPA. I request you to varify it.
IITs don't make their students great, Their students make IIT great !!
Damn bro you nailed it🔥🔥
Keep doing 👍👍👍
I think I saw your videos when I was preparing for JEE and later I forgot about your channel.
Aren't you an MIT student?
What degree were you pursuing in US?
Have you completed your degree, now?
No
He did his Bachelors and Masters from Georgia State University. Now he is working at Microsoft.
You're studying at IIT?
this year things changed many of iitian prefer to do work for india
i almost regular watching your’s videos since 2020 . my daughter studying in IIT Mumbai in Chemical branch . she completed in third year i 10.5 CGP now she is in Perdue university for Internship . she wanted to doing PhD .where the top US university for Chemical . ?
Sir agar mtec iit se kar le tho phd foreign me admission lena asan ho jati hai kya yah btech +mtech dono iit se honi chahiye
11:57 reason is simple... General category students are used to working hard and succeeding, even in an unfair battle against reserved category students. So they don't take things for granted and continue with their commitment to excel wherever they go. Whereas reserved (OBC/SC/ST) category students are used to getting things without putting in much effort. Every successive Govts and political parties have only increased reservation and subsidised their education further. Why will u value something when u get them for free without any hardwork?? Hence we have low output from them