How YOU Can Play NES Tetris
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- What do you need to play NES Tetris for yourself? There are lots of different options depending on what you want to do.
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Thanks for watching! EDIT 12/2/2021: I made this guide when there were originally no other comprehensive guides out there, I think it still is mostly relevant but there are a few things I've learned over the subsequent year and a half that I would alter in the guide.
1) I would no longer recommend buying a Retro-Bit RES as an alternative console, although it is technically functional, there appear to be slight delay issues which negate some of the advantage of original equipment. Instead, buy a Retron 1 as a budget option and a Retron 1 HD or original NES for a higher tier option.
2) Just using OBS as standard recording/streaming software is fine. I would no longer recommend Streamlabs due to a whole host of issues and controversies.
3) EasyCap is still a usable budget option (it also doesn't require the CD software shown in the video to work, that is just capture software and you can use OBS instead), but cheap HDMI capture cards also do the job too. If you encounter interlacing in the input to OBS, turn on a deinterlacing filter.
4) Because I've had a few questions about it...Classic Score Attack in Tetris Effect: Connected is a nearly exact replica of NES Tetris and if you already have TEC, it's a serviceable introduction to the learning the mechanics of the game without having to deal with roms and emulators. However, you cannot use Classic Score Attack to play in NES Tetris tournaments and there will inevitably be a slight delay on the game feed due to your computer's processing time, so if you're serious about playing at a high level, original equipment is the best way to go.
wanna know about ctwc 2019, how was it?
@@neo6411 it was epic. lots of stories and animations to share about it. working hard to get the enormous recap video finished
Loved the video, all knowledge I think I’ve seemed out myself luckily but definitely glad there’s a place new players can find information now great job! Can’t wait till CTWC video, no rush but I’m super excited for it
No need to stress about the upload frequency. Do it when you have time and when you feel like it. There's no point in making videos unless you enjoy making them :)
@@aGameScout thanks for creating high quality content for a community that doesn't have many video makers. Hope to see your next video once its out!
he did it guys he pressed the upload button
Sanjay the gamer yes, he did it finally!! lol
You're doing the lord's work in making the community accessible to newcomers, my friend. Best case scenario we'll hopefully see a few great players who'll say you helped them in! Great stuff.
Joseph has inspired people and now he's making them a part of the community.
Modern Tetris player here. I've been playing on emulator and assumed buying an NES just for this was too much money to play one game on.
I might have to reconsider that.
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i got a crt at a yard sale for $5 just for this and now my parents are concerned for my well being. Thanks!
I am getting the same stink from my friends and family.
@@phoenixdowner just ingnore them XD
Got mine for free! Had a friend in a tough spot finance wise and their only TV was a CRT and I had an LCD for gaming so obviously a switch was a total win win
@@Peat030 Who needs "friends" when you have TETORISU!
So I guess now the tour on all the online events? CTB, CTE, CTG, CTL, CTM, CTP... That may be a good topic for next video. :D
definitely in the works!
CBT, you say?
Ah yes, CTE. Great band. Love me some Crown The Empire :p
when I first got into the game I used an emulator, then after I realized I wanted to become a lot better at the game I got the original stuff. I never thought id be buying stuff older than me for gaming
ok
lol
The story for many of us :) what an unlikely esport
" I never thought id be buying stuff older than me for gaming"
And down the rabbit hole the journey goes. You are "one of us" now. ;)
can you tell me which emulator you used? and is it a big difference in comparison with the original game?
Other options for "The Works" would include the slightly rarer top-loader NES, which will allow you to play both the NTSC and PAL versions of Tetris, and if you're looking to be a right-handed hypertapper: a Goofyfoot controller from TotalRadNES. Goofyfoot controllers are tournament legal at the CTWC.
great additional info!
Are dogbones allowed in tournaments?
PAL Tetris at the wrong speed.
@@mirabilis Entirely true. It'll run at 60hz when an authentic PAL system would run it at 50.
@@rileyk5228 yep, they're are allowed, also there is some guys that make controllers that are allowed, they have an image that says CTWC approved.
A=1,000,000
B=1,100,000
C=1,200,000
D=Joseph Saelee
Lol that was great
Edit: Ermm well times have certainly changed...
E = Cheez
F = TAS
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the record now is 1.6m by jounce_, he skipped 1.5m!
@@Joshy- yea I’m aware
Rollover(10) = AlexT
11:52 Ayy I saw MuseScore down there. Respect.
Gosh thank you so much, I'm so glad I watched this before trying to participate in CTM or visit the CTWC in person. This seriously cleared up a lot of questions I had about it. You're awesome! :)
Really hope to meet you at a tournament one of these days my friend!
-Trent
Everyone has wanted a consolidated/holistic setup video like this for so long, thank you ;-;
Thank you for all these precious informations. I've been wanting to play 1989 Tetris since I first saw a CTWC video. As of today I ordered an original NES controller and a USB adapter to start and try the game in emulation. I'm always on the lookout for a good deal for an original NES and if I tumble upon one I will definitely take it. Again, thank you for all the good work, you've become essential to the CT community :)
I've watched a half a dozen of your videos over the months and i follow speedruns, world records, games, and tetris. However, this video is one of the best I've seen that explains hardware, software, need, etc for all types of games etc. I love this video. It applies to a lot of things, not just tetris. You should change the title to match that.
14:00 someone meme this Joseph clip and send it to him
For the mic, Monoprice has a really good 'podcasting/streaming' bundle which has a surprisingly good USB mic, a table-clamp boom mount, a pop filter, and a few other things, all for $60.
For the console, I'd suggest that a "the works" category could include the Analogue Nt Mini or similar, especially handy if you're using it with a modern HDMI TV. And not all LCD TVs add substantial lag; look for one which supports 'game mode' or the like (which will generally reduce the lag to 1 frame or less), and OLED and the upcoming micro-LED TVs are basically lag-free.
I literally just rewatched all your videos yesterday. Super excited to see this in my sub box this morning.
This is so helpful! As someone who just bought their first original NES not even a couple days ago, I’m going to keep coming back to this video!
Who is that handsome guy at 8:17?!?! Hehe thanks David! Another great video :)
Awesome and helpful video, this is going to help a lot of people get into NES Tetris for years to come I expect
What I recommend is to not stress over the Crt an insane amount, as long as it is standard definition you will be fine. As well as having a better connection than RF. I found my self stressing so much over getting the crt when I could've just gotten a free one and been playing tetris while improving my skill. This is not like other retro games where they are slow and you have time to appreciate the graphics a lot. As long as it is decent you will be fine, your main issue is latency so get a standard definition tv
I've seen alot of cheap/,free crt monitors. VGA to RCA adapter and you're 👍
Thanks for this - especially the info about AV to USB and how to participate in tetris monthly! Just sent my first qualification score yesterday with a stream of my original NES and am looking forward to the event :)
thanks for the insight! ive been trying to find a console to use after my nes console stopped working. so im glad i can get back into playing again after a year.
When it comes to watching your videos, I appreciate every single second while watching. Keep it up, the vids are great!
KORYANSUU TETORISUUU
You are so chill, I don't even care for Tetris but I love watching your videos.
This is a fantastic video. Finally a clear and concise foolproof source to direct people towards when I get asked this stuff ;) Thank you sir!
I'm happy you made this. I really want to start playing Tetris and I didn't know where to start. I'm probably starting with an emulator (after buying the cartridge so it isn't illegal haha) and I'll get other stuff if I really like Tetris
im really thankful for the video, i watched alot of tetris world championship videos and just wanna start, i didnt knew anything about the setup before your video, thanks from a tetris fan from germany ^^
so i got me that NES again,found a working copy of tetris in good condition and it still had its instruction manual in it too...
ofc this is what i wanted in the first place and i was already really happy to be able to play again on original hardware. however i hadnt known that its so easy and cheap to capture and stream gameplay,this is great news. great video! have a sub good sir :)
This is absolutely EXACTLY what I needed. Thank you for this video!
So happy to see you make a video after that long. Keep at it my friend I wish you a good quarantine and I hope you have a good time editing :)
This helped A LOT! Not only for Tetris purposes. Thanks!!
Cheers from Brazil.
had to say thank you so much Ive wanted to try tetris for years and this guide helped me out
Your channel is so good. Thank you for the detailed information.
A really good longterm starting setup that I recommend is an original nes controller with an oem to usb adapter($8 on ebay) with a really good emulator like mesen and it feels eerily similar and sometimes better compared to my original nes with an lcd
Great thanks. This is the information I needed for the set up I’m working on
Thanks. This is really useful information. Only been playing Tetris on gameboy up until now but really want to start on NES.
Hell yeah thank you dude.I've always wanted to know the kind of stuff you need. I currently just have my NES favorite controllers and the cartridge.
Finally a video on the subject, thank you.
Hey david thanks so much for the recommendation just got the game im waiting for the retro bit res can’t wait to practice
Best content that sprung up when tetris resurfaced in Popularity.
Thanks man
You do very good videos! You're bound to get more subs. Great content. Keep up the great work!
Thank You. Very informative!
This is sooo help full already bought the game and the retro bit nes can’t wait to go to the tournament
Great video! Definitely great for newcomers
for sure!
I’ve been watching ctwc forever and i saw this video and got an emulator and it’s super fun thank you for making this video
i play on an xbox controller so when i get nintendo controller it won’t be much different and i got 100k on level 18 start
How is your content free man? You go so hard for your viewers.
Very cool. We just watched this. Very impressed.
straight up ur gonna bring tetris closer to where it deserves to be in esports!!
Hi, I'm from Italy and thanks to your video I'm starting the long journey ti prof tetris ...I loved this game since I was Child
In my opinion "the works" console would be the NT Mini from Analogue Interactive, that console is a thing of beauty.
Why? The point is to create a setup as close as possible to the one used in actual competition. What purpose does spending $500+ on a nt serve?
Thank you so much for this video dude!
Ayyyyyyyyye i was watching ur channel yesterday because I missed these videos
This is gold, thank you.
I loved seeing you go from a guy who made a nice video about the world of tetris, to a full blown tetris guy
Such a helpful video thank you
Notes on the audio section. Any condenser microphone has bass drop off over distance (actually any microphone at all), This is called Proximity effect. The further you get from it, the more hollow it will sound, The blue yeti is multipattern meaning The usable range of distance and angle isn't set in stone like more professional microphones (Professional as in music studio gear I should say "more expensive specialty microphones" because the Blue Yeti is professional enough in broadcasting). There's a trade off in quality as well that the blue yeti has some weird compression that happens that some microphones don't have (streaming that's actually an upside as it means vocal quality may reduce over distance but the volume falloff is not proportional, volume fall off is every time you double the distance to the microphone the physical sound pressure, the actual energy hitting the microphone is halved. so from 3 inches away to 6" the pressure moving the mic is halves, at 12" it's half again, compression helps combat that a lot)
Using a high end microphone also comes with needing an interface that can take XLR connections from the microphone and turn that into a usable digital signal. So using something higher end comes with needing more gear, more time, it's can be a lot more annoying.
The take away here, Higher quality in audio may work against you unless you have a specific reason for needing better, the blue Yeti is the standard for streaming for a reason, it's a good compromise between quality and just being able to use it without having to gain stage your inputs worry about compression and noise gating everything.
14:30 that's some inception level composition right there, I was shocked for a second
I'm actually pretty lucky for the setup I currently have for NES Tetris. I use a Phillips CRT TV that has composite video out that I use for capturing video. What's really cool about this video out is that it can also record RF and S-Video sources but only in composite. Right now I play on an original NES but I'm considering moving to playing on the Famicom as it's smaller size fits my setup more than the big grey box although that would require getting a cartridge converter and a controller adapter if I ended up switching. The capture card I use is a Roxio EasyVHS card which I found at Goodwill of all places for $3 and it works perfectly and has S-Video support. I have my own custom NES OBS stream layout with a fullscreen webcam. The webcam I use is a Logitech 720p camera, it's not the best webcam but it gets the job done. All I need now is to just get better at NES Tetris.
Nice! Sounds like a rock solid setup. Hope to see you in a future tournament!
Hey David, I previously asked when this video released if it were possible to get and use an NTSC console in a PAL region, in my case UK, and you were a great help to me in the comments beyond the video itself, I was wondering if you knew if it is possible (and safe) to use a UK (or any non american) power supply directly on an NTSC NES, or if you could point me to someone or community that would know for sure and I couldn't find a 100% sure answer, which I would like to have to assure I don't waste my money buying an NTSC console i can't use
You could also use WoMic to connect your phone via USB/Bluetooth/wifi to use it as a mic. It really works well for me as a budget option and paring it with audacity (a great free audio recorder) is great.
I feel blessed because a few years ago I got an NES, Tetris, and game genie for free from my mom’s colleague who was giving away a bunch of old stuff. I’m already most of the way there! I do feel like the CRT will help a lot though!
UPDATE: Picked up a CRT and it's a blessing!
Loved the shot of DKOldies! Definitely a great retro gaming company
If you have the original nes there is both composite and rf, so you don’t need a splitter to record video, in addition on some modern lcd TVs if you hook it up through rf it automatically goes to 4:3 mode.
I want to know how the youtubers and streamers do the layout on their screen. I would like to be able to do the same.
Also, really great video. It motivated me to go back to my roots and dust off my old NES and Tetris cartrige!
You are a god among men sir! I learned so much from this.
Actually, although the video was a little long, it's a good guide to start play tetris. I have tetris ntsc and the original nes and really it's the perfect setup (oldschool feeling). About emulators, Retroarch (for example) with gpu hard sync and run ahead options AND using a gamer monitor has very good results about input lag, and the experience can be the same as the original hardware, if you know to configure. I'm testing because I put tetris on my original nes mini with retroarch, so I avoid wireless controller and I can play with nes mini controller. I recorded videos with tetris, testing many options and analysing frame by frame. It was hard work, but to training like the original hardware, it was necessary. And It's a good way to play tetris too, if you don't have the option or don't want to buy the original setup (heavy crts, av cables, audio frequency noise...I know, I know, old stuff).
About imitation hardware, one point that we need to remember: Is the imitation a built-in emulator or is a imitation of the hardware itself? If it's an emulator, the probably of incoming lag is equally on pc without proper configuration and you probably want to avoid this. That said, try to find an imitation of the hardware itself.
Very useful video
Thanks you very much dude)
Long time no see, huh? Great to see a notification under your name c:
My CRT is too F@%$)(# heavy! But obtaining one was the best decision I made to advance my Tetris game. Playing on CTWC TVs felt no different than what I do at home.
Great vid. Hope to see another one soon.
If you ran out of stuff to spend money on, here are some other items that would be a step up even from "The Works" options mentioned here:
Distribution amplifier: If you use the y-cable splitters like the ones shown in the video, you will notice the image on the TV is noticeably darker than when you don't have them in and the cable just goes from the console to the TV. That's because dividing the signal makes it so that neither the capture card nor the TV gets the full strength signal. A distribution amplifier fixes that problem by using electronics to bring both the output streams up to the original strength. At around $20 on eBay, I'd say it's a really worthwhile step up.
PVM: These are the fancy TV's he showed at 9:50. Being professional grade, they display colors A LOT brighter and clearer than a normal TV. Downside is you will most likely need some BNC to RCA converters to hook up to it. And that they can be pretty expensive/hard to find. If you're looking for a CRT, I would recommend E-waste recyclers or contacting your local Super Smash Bros. Melee community in addition to the sources from the video.
Capture card: A noticeably better capture card than the EZ cap will run around $50-100. There is a difference in quality, but whether it's enough to warrant spending that kind of money is a matter of debate. If you're satisfied with what you have now, I'd say to save your money. If you are interested in looking for more, search for The Thrillness's reviews, which go into a lot of detail about the picture quality and other features various models offer.
Boom, upload for David
DUde thanks, your a real tetris passionat.
A much better option for a microphone in my experience is the AT2020 (XLR NOT USB) and the Focusrite Scarlett Solo for your audio interface (the USB version has a pretty substantial hum coming from the passive power in the USB not being suited properly to the microphone, the XLR version with the interface is much better because it provides exactly the power it needs and no excess along with giving you better control of audio levels. the microphone + interface + cables and stand is around $200 so its a little more than conventional USB microphones like the YETI pictures in the video, but the quality in return is more than worth the price.
get a sony triniton CRT - if possible - good picture and color adjustments - considered the amount you gonna sit infront of it its worth its money. nice video!
I took that score of the previous owner of your Tetris copy as a challenge. Hadn't played the game in 30 years and managed to get 75.000 points on my first try managing to get up to level 8 lol
Amazing work bro.
Three questions:
All this using an emulator with a ROM in a PC:
- Can I record just the screen of the videogame (me playing it, but myself not appearing in the video, but my voice talking on the background about the gameplay yes) and upload the video to TH-cam?
- Can I record the screen of the videogame and also myself appearing in the video playing (me in a corner of the video) and upload the video to TH-cam?
- Can I stream live a game ?
Thx for advice
The TV shown at 9:23 isn't actually a CRT, it's a rear projection TV and those have more input lag on them than a CRT.
Great video. One question. Do you think I can competitively play on NES Classic, that was released recently? Thanks, keep up the good work.
Great video. Really appreciate the effort you put into it. However, you're bit about streaming software is kinda wrong. Streamlabs OBS (SLOBS) should be the "in a pinch" while OBS should be considered the essentials/works. Everything you can do in SLOBS you can do and more in OBS. All the Trey stuff you talked about can be done in OBS. OBS is way more flexible than SLOBS and gets encoder features faster. SLOBS is an easier to use but less customisable version of OBS. Its great for most people but it has its issues and I would highly recommend that if you can learn to use OBS you'd be better of with it.
I got an nes and tetris arriving on Tuesday bouta have some fun
I was a bit surprised at the statement that PC players will mostly be playing with mouse and keyboard. You can get imitation USB NES controllers, adapters for the real thing, or you can use practically any other controller (often with some sort of cheap adapter). My guess is that a lot more PC players would be using controllers if only they knew that they can use the ones they already have lying around.
I personally highly recommend the Retron HD console because it comes with an HDMI output along with the RCA.
No need for all those cables, only the hdmi for my capture card and RCA for my CRT.
oh, thanks for the recommendation! which capture card do you use?
@@aGameScout this piece of junk called "SSEDEW High-Definition Monitor USB2.0 HDMI Capture Card" but it's cheap and it works
@@DanQZ Hi Dan. Thanks for the advice.
I've got a few questions about the Retron HD.
1. Can I use a classic NES controller on it?
2. Is playing with the RETRON controllers tournament legal?
3. Have you ever played Tetris on a genuine NES and how does it compare to the RETRON?
@@Bogard2312
1. Yes
2. Not sure but I’d bet on yes
3. I have and I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference
@@DanQZ Perfect. Thanks Dan.
I play NES Tetris with my original NES and cartridge from 1989. I use the RCA jacks instead of the RF output with my HDTV.
The furthest I ever got was the building taking off like a rocket.
If you are just starting out playing NES Tetris, I recommend playing it through Classic Score Attack in Tetris Effect: Connected.
It's a good way to find out if you like the game without investing too much money in it.
If anyone finds it truly impossible to find a working CRT, you should know that not all LCDs are created equally. CRTs are superior because of their low input lag and motion blur. Some LCDs have an order of magnitude less input lag than others, and many have features to reduce motion blur. TVs generally have the worst input lag because they’re optimized for viewing rather than interacting, usually in the hundreds of milliseconds. Computer monitors are usually better with input lag in the tens of milliseconds. High end “gaming” monitors and super high end TVs can have input lag under ten milliseconds. This still isn’t as good as a CRT(input lag can be as low as 1 or 0.1 milliseconds) , but it can make a big difference. If you have a spare monitor, or have already bought a monitor for PC gaming, I’d try those before buying a CRT. If CRT screens are truly unavailable to you, look for a gaming monitor with a high refresh rate and a feature called “backlight strobing”. This imitates CRT display technology to reduce motion blur.
Thanks for all the added in-depth info Alan!
aGameScout 👍🏽
Some streamers have proven that a fast gaming monitor (1 frame slower than CRT) plus an emulator with "runahead" (1 frame faster than NES) can all sum to an experience that is measurably the same as a CRT and NES. That said, ive only seen one such setup and it's a lot more expensive than the CRT option.
such a quality video
Wasn't expecting to see EasyCap today haha, that was my first capture card way back when. Nowadays I have a Framemesiter and an Elgato, wild to think EasyCaps are still being sold, I could never get mine to work reliably past Windows 7.
THANK YOU!! I feel so stupid recording my scores(check em out!) on my iphone 😂 I want to CTM so bad
YES another video
Lots of help needed bud. Keep playing, um, yeah, keep playing like that lol.
Another "the works" option is an everdrive cartridge that allows you to play your rom backups of your games on real NES hardware. This allows for access to a myriad of training, competitive, and just fun community game patches and hacks.
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Thanks very much
We keep a working vcr Nintendo and CRT just for light gun games. I hope my kids can respect that I rebuild these pieces of hardware just so they can relate to their old dad’s gaming.
Amazing work bro. I really needed all the info. You're the best.
Three questions I hope you could answer me:
All this using an emulator with a ROM in a PC is legal to do it:
- Can I record just the screen of the videogame (me playing it, but myself not appearing in the video, but my voice talking on the background about the gameplay yes) and upload the video to TH-cam?
- Can I record the screen of the videogame and also myself appearing in the video playing (me in a corner of the video) and upload the video to TH-cam?
- Can I stream live a game ?
Also, i dont understand too much about copyright in these cases. Could I get a copyright claim in any of this situations?
No worries,you will not encounter any copyright claims by uploading tetris game footage! I have never heard of anyone encountering issues like this in the community.
Very informative video. Have you ever played the PAL version of Tetris?
THANK YOU
thank you